My stock MKIV Supra turbo(1997) starts up every time and never breaks... never no matter how long it sits. Oil changes are $50 and tires are $400 a set. I cannot complain and the experience of driving one is like nothing else
Well, he's giving the cost of what it would be if you have your car serviced, which is fair, because nine out of ten high end car owners will not work on their own cars. Most of us don't have special tools for a Lambo or a Ferrari. And if you work on your car, good for you. You save even more money. I work on my GTR, and it's not even about the money. I just love working on it as a hobby. For some of us, there's a sense of pride and joy to drive my own car right after I worked on it.
Call me nuts but Craig, I would be willing to trade you my 2009 Mitsubishi Spyder Eclipse with 110k miles for your GTR. Now, you might think I am insane -- but for you buddy, Ill make the drive and swap where ever you need but do hurry. A rat chewed some of the wiring and it technically could go up in flames at any moment. Car does not come with rat, he is no longer with us.
It's funny how some people don't even think about maintenance costs. Just because you can afford to buy a sports/exotic car, doesn't mean you can afford to maintain it.
Tbh your comment is flawed. If you can afford you should be able to maintain it. Unless you save 100k cash and buy an exotic which the chances of that are extremely low
@@nitro300 CAN fix vs WILL fix is two different things- I think the majority of owners at a certain pricepoint do little maintenance themselves. I used to do basic maintenance on my cars- brakes, rotors, oil, etc. As I've made more money and am in the position to buy nicer cars I find myself less inclined to do the maintenance myself because I'd rather relax or do other things with my free time. I'm much more inclined to install mods that I'm capable of handling myself rather than maintenance- there's nothing thrilling about swapping out brakes, oil, and filters as far as I'm concerned.
Wow, makes me appreciate how much I have been saving by doing DIY for maintenance on my '17 R35. On oil and Diff fluid especially, it's only a PITA the first few times, but you get used to it soon, and can appreciate the cost savings. Tires will always be the worst part, no evading that one. Thanks for the quick review Craig! 100% agree on the community!
The amount spent on maintenance listed above could be cut in half if you do the work yourself and search the internet for quality aftermarket parts. Nissan dealers will rake you over the coals for any type of work. These cars are very easy to work on and anyone with a moderate amount of mechanical knowledge can easily do the work themselves. I know that to be a fact. I own a 2010 with 102,000 miles on the ODO and it still runs like new. These are fantastic machines!
I'm getting ready to do a transmission and differential service on my 2010 GTR and it cost $310 for the needed amount of Motul High Torque transmission fluid and another $175 for a trans filter and pan gasket. Not outrageous for an 18,000 mile service but then I do the work myself.
After 1 year of ownership, these are my cost. MX72 pads: $700 2x oil change with RLI and NISMO filter: $110 each (dyi). Brake fluid (motul 600): $65 Rims and Tires (19in Advan GT w/A052): $5,300 1 Crank Seal: $8 (Subaru brand) 6 Ngk spark plugs: $85 1 coil pack: $15 You also don't need to change your transmission fluid after every track day, only if the temps reach 242f.After 1 year
well said buddy! i loved my GTR, then had my son and the car seat was hard in there. it was a 2009 and man i could tell you how much fun it was on the hills here in Texas. luckly my son is going to be 4 and my wife said its time for the GTR to come back in our lives. :) 2 more weeks and I'm counting down the days.
Thanks for this great review. Everyone definitely made it seem super expensive. This breakdown brought everything in to perspective for me. I've own BMW and Mercedes and the maintenance prices out of warranty seems very similar. I just spent $1700 on a set of tires this year. Now I'll continue my search for one. Thank you again.
This is a real man right here!! Thanks for putting those facts and real numbers out there for us regular folks. Only get to make a purchase like this once in a lifetime!! Good luck and take care of that beauty!!
For comparison I daily my 2017 Mustang Shelby GT350 and it is $220 per oil change every 5,000 miles even if I buy my own oil. I only use Amsoil 5w-50 and the Amsoil cartridge style filter for my engine. Tires I'm running are 305/30-19 in the front and 325/30-19 in the rear, I only run Michelin Pilot Sport 4s (best balance of performance, tread life, and wet performance) which cost $500+ each (about $2000 all in with no deals). I'm ready for my second set of rear tires after 2 years of ownership. I purchased the car with 51,000 miles and now have 78k on the odometer. I purchased the new tires right around the 60k mark so I have gotten great life out of them for my usage. Figure 2 oil changes a year and tires every 2 years that's about ~$1400/yr just to keep it running without any other fluid changes or maintenance issues. In time it would need a clutch and that is $1500+ just for the clutch and flywheel before install. Even if you go OEM that's not going to save much and may be more depending on pricing you can find. OEM Brake Pads which are pretty decent are about $300 front and $100 rear. Slightly more or less for aftermarket pads. You will eat them up on a track day so expect to change them out with new fluids as well. Not cheap depending on your usage. If you are tracking you will spend a lot of money on tires, brake pads, and fluids. For a daily or semi daily though, I feel its reasonable if you want a fun car to cruise in and are able to keep up with checking your fluid levels etc. I'd argue that these performance oriented cars are not for you if you want to start it up and just go. There is a little more care involved on the part of the owner.
I’ve owned a GT350 prior to my R35 and I think the mustang is more expensive to maintain. Loved the car but they are not holding their value as much as I would have liked. I think I’ll buy another once the price really drops.
Lol BMW dealer is quoting me $1400 to change the spark plugs on my F82 M4. I replaced it myself with the same Bosch spark plugs from FCP euro for $37.74 The entire job did took me about an hour and half. To be honest, a huge portion of the premium maintenance cost on a sport car is “performance markup” on both parts and labor. Except for tires maybe
I bought my "well loved" - (some of you would call it abused) - for 48k. Dropped 12k into it and I have the most amazing car I've had in literal years. I also own a 21 Shelby GT500. Another truly amazing car - these two cars shave years off my life in the very best ways! -- 61 and STILL racing. They'll bury me in one of them if I have my way. - Thanks for the great content. - Aesir -
6:40 - If you are mechanically inclined and have a nice set of quick jacks, you can cut the brake change, drive train and oil change costing to a fraction of that ( by cutting out the labor ) if you like tracking the car, its a strong recommendation to get used to doing these, as well as brake fluid, coolant, power steering etc.. fresh blood makes a mean car... old blood makes a dead car. That said, I know a few r35 owners, that daily their cars and enjoy the hell out of the cars. My twin turbo'ed 370z is cost heavy on tires but cheap otherwise (except for the 1st engine i blew at the track... oops) nissans are built well 9:37 34k at the dealership, and 25k mods.. My Z makes me think i should have bought a gtr:) If they only came with standard transmission....
Have owned new since 2016 and have done all maintenance at home including trans and diff oil change. Nearly 20k miles and have needed new tires. Car is not tracked. Probably have spent 5k on maintenance so far.
2000-2500 dollars a year in maintenance costs including everything?! Damn, thats really not thát expensive. Honestly. I expected much worse. A 'normal' daily driver car can be around 400 to 1000 euro's a year over here in The Netherlands.
What sucks in Europe is the dealer service garages. They are so overpriced and trash work and workers. If you ever get a sportscar or enthusiast car, just befriend a good car mechanic at a local shop. Most of the time you will get better service from them! Bonus: If you already have a mate that's a mechanic :)
My R35 is a 2017 and it's almost stock except from some few extras and improvements. I can agree that it is very reliable and so far it hasn't gave me any troubles or problems. I head some people complained about the transmission or the breaks but I haven't noticed anything in mine. I love this car, and I hope Nissan won't abandon the GT-R series.
EXCELLENT!! Excellent info, thank you. I have a 2018 civic Si with 50k & stock breaks still, it has been modified to 326hp & 313tq at the wheels & is my daily. I get 44mpg because i baby it, mostly 😏. But i am considering a 2023 GT-R. & this is the info i am looking for. I can take the maintenance cost you provided & pretty much cut them in half respectively. Bolt on's & tunes are what they are. I love the way you put everything in perspective like i would do. Again, excellent video good sir 👍
I appreciate how in-depth this was. I'd be really curious to see a similar breakdown of ownership costs for the NC1 NSX, LC500, and/or Porsche 991. Really, any high-end six-figure-ish sports/GT car. We always hear about how much it costs to buy one, but there's more to it than that which seldom gets answered.
CTS-V is fine for me. Performance is still very good at a lot less operating cost even with the mods. I have 535 WHP and it is a strong powertrain and it handles as good as I can drive it.
What a tremendous video Craig, and lots of great findings revealed. I owned an R35 GT-R for a bit over 4 years myself and it definitely resonates with me. Thanks for making this!
A great review Craig. I have owned two R35's and still own a MY2012 R35 and I love it. It's not too expensive to maintenance a R35 in Australia even though our labour costs are high and the cost of transmission and diff oils can be as high as $150AUD per litre. The resale value in Australia is high and they hold their value better than AMG Mercedes and BMW.
Not too bad, I spent over 15k in a 34 month period maintaining and restoring an 92 Mitsubishi Evolution 1 ( hard to find discontinued parts for a car never sold in the U.S)
I'm gonna grab another set. Whoa! Whoa, whoa, whoa! Another set? No. Look, that was your third set today. I mean, them tires ain't cheap. - F&F: Tokyo Drift
I find it shocking that the R35 GT-R is the longest running generation unlike the generation of the R32, R33 & R34 where its no more than 3 years vs. the R35 is over 10 years. The R35 has been around longer than its predecessors the R32, R33 & R34 combined probably due to the fact its the more street legal generation in North America.
Kinda wrong there... First of all, the Nissan (R35) GT-R is *not* the next-gen Skyline. It's a separate car from its Skyline predecessor. Following the end of the R34's lifespan, the "Skyline" and "GT-R" badges were separated into two separate cars (or rather, the GT-R sub-range was removed and promoted into its own, separate vehicle). The V35 succeeded the R34 Skyline as an economically practical-but-sporty car. And the R35 succeeded the R34 GT-R as the purebred racecar. R32: 1989-1994 R33: 1995-1998 R34: 1999-2002 V35: 2001-2005 (aka. Infiniti G35) V36: 2006-2013 (aka. Infiniti G35/G37/Q40/Q60) R35: 2009-present V37: 2014-present (aka. Infiniti Q50)
I never used the name "Skyline" I only used "GT-R" because even some if not all Japanese call even Craig calls the R32, R33 & R34 a "GT-R" as much as the R35
@@traviswalker8933 he's trying to spill knowledge that everyone already knew. Lol. Let him have his moment. I think it's the longest running generation because it's the most perfectly balanced generation. Either Nissan doesn't have the money or are scared to build the next gen GTR. Following to the R35 with a dud would be a huge blow to Nissan and the GTR name.
Yeah I dont care about owning a M4, M5 for the same price. This is my dreamcar. Japanese are so tough built. And they go so well, its why we love them.
That's not bad at all for a daily driver, super low costs considering the highest expense by far is tires. For someone who uses this as a second car, it's likely half this price.
Depends how much you drive it. My CBA was about 7,000$ in average in 5 years of ownership and 20,000km because all the known issues happened to me. Now I got a 2017 and I expect it to cost less as I won't have issues to fix. If you decide to buy a GT-R get the newest one you can afford because you'll end up spending MUCH less in repairs.
The only way I'll be able to get a GTR 35 is if I win the FL lottery, steal one, or the apocalypse just happened right when am test driving a GTR and am getting out of the city before the zombies get me.
man the tires killed me but they are the most important part of the drive experience for sure. I went from some crappy Falkins to to 888's and it was night and day
I have a c43 amg with warranty and I've had to replace my panoramic roof for $2,000 (mercedes says it is not their part so they do not cover it) Oil times 3 @ $120 x3 Tires for $900 Warranty covered failing control arms $3,400, center console parts $600 It has 40k miles! Now the hydraulic hood struts have failed and need to be replaced 2 years = $3,260 1 year $1,630 + extended warranty until 75k miles for $2,350 So far I would rather spend this kind of money on a GTR than a mercedes where I get called a fake amg once a month. I can get what I paid for it in today's market which is super surprising! Currently looking at 2015 GTR's s for around $80k
Lots of information in a short amount of time. I'll watch it a few times and take notes. My Boost Logic 750x GT-R should be ready to pick up next week. This video is a keeper. Thanks!
Basically, if you can only barely afford to buy an R35 used, you probably can’t afford to keep it because of the running costs unless you garage it 95% of the time of ownership.
True, I mean I probably wouldn’t daily a GT-R (mostly because that’d be a lot of highway driving and rock chips are the bane of my existence). But for a weekend / track car that’s actually a great deal if you’re not keen on building your own track car. Surprisingly, I was seeing them everywhere out here in central Wisconsin the first few years they came out. Even in winter. I died a little bit inside because I refuse to believe every one of those guys put it on a lift and hosed the salt off when they got home.
Even the cost of maintenance can be reduced depending on which fluids you use. I'm not saying cheap out, but I am saying find what matches Nissan's specs and buy accordingly. You'll be surprised at what you save.
Not surprised to hear the car has been reliable. Should be noted your car is still young... as of course some cars as they age stay pretty solid, and others turn into money pits. Would be interesting to hear how a 10 year, 100K R35 fares.
there's a vid floating around where a guy has a GTR with 200k on the clock. Still holding up to this day. The motor is bullet proof when taken care of.
Hey Criag, would you consider doing a video on the Car Fads/Aesthetic of the 90s- early 2000s? Neon Underglow, Crazy Vinyls, Decals, Roof Scoops, Window Tints, Colour Shift Paint Carbon Fibre Parts etc? These things are what I grew up thinking the JDM/Tuner Scene is all about. It should make for a fun video.
2012’s have 530HP 13-16’s got a bump to 545. 2017+ 565. Get a 13-14 if you want rawness then upgrade the headlights & taillights. 2017+ are not worth those 90k+ prices. Absolutely love MY13.
Ayyyy good looks on that info man. He kinda glossed over that stuff other than the suspension so I was confused like how did they make it better in any way? Any idea if the HP is just a tune deal or actual differences on internals (like a different cam profile)?
Craig, I’m sure you’ve done this, but check the date code on those track tires that are now defunct. Depending on how close they are to 4-5 years of age it might be better to offload them to someone who will use them immediately. It’s not just high performance cars either. Standard gas powered non M Bmw oil change, $50. My Diesel wagon, $200. Standard M54 powered e46 wagon fuel pump $200. My M56 powered e46 wagon... $9,000. (have to buy a complete tank, new,).
That’s actually not that bad, given to the amount of years. Some people spend that kind of money annually on clothes alone. Tech stuff, they’ll either never really use or grow out of and eventually render useless. Having a kid or kids costs more than as well. It’s all about priorities and what you feel spending the money you earn, is worth it.
I have one and have never tracked my car and can say the costs are very similar for an out of warranty GTR. I put 15,000km (9300mi) on my GTR in 3 years and probably spent at least $10,000 in maintenance only. Not to mention the tens of thousands on performance upgrades.
My question is with some gtrs with 100k miles or more how much will these engine rebuilds cost? Just to have a reference, a Porsche engine rebuilds (which I consider very expensive) go for 15k easily just to rebuild it OEM stock.
I own a 2012 Nissan GT-R and I love my car. It is is garage queen however but I do the regular oil changes my self. I enjoy it. Could you recommend who I should go to service my car besides the dealer?? Thanks.
@@UnratedPlayer21 450$ a month AT LEAST for diesel, and I only do about 60 miles a week on a long week. 300$ oil changes every 3000. New transmission every 100,000 miles at 3500-7500$ a piece. It all adds up. Bushings going out. Everything. These things are great but they are expensive
@@UnratedPlayer21 alright quick update a shop just quoted me 4500$ to fix my front passenger wheel seal that’s leaking so bad you can watch it drip out, and at least another 500 to fix my 4wd. So yeah.
I considered a r35, but with living in the north east there's not enough nice weather to enjoy it. Plus I would try putting on snow tires and drive it through a blizzard.
I'm guessing they are pretty reliable. The only issue I ever hear about when it comes to Nissan is the known issue with their CVT transmissions. I have an 02 6 speed Maxima with a 3.5 and although it consumes oil it still runs strong at 295,000 miles. I have an 08 CBR1000RR for when I want to have fun.
Great video, concise, & helpful comparisons to vehicles in similar performance/ price categories, & overall general information on different aspects of ownership including cost. Much appreciated
Knowing how to work on your own car goes a Long ways !!! Most people can't do the easiest things like change their own oil in the diffs and that's the biggest problems with most cars
When I started being around people who have luxury cars I was told one thing, if you are buying a car like this it is impolite to ask how much it costs and how much fuel it uses. If you came to buy the GTR or any other super car then I really think you have enough money on the side to live with it and much more.
Great vid, I’m considering buying a 2009/2010 model (here in Australia) prices are round 85k to 95k depending on Ks and bolt-on. I’m not convinced this cars cost a lot of money to maintain and believe they would be a very reliable car if looked after.
This is what it cost if you track the car :) and how many miles you put on it a year - Oil changes are $200? I do oil changes myself and yeah I don't track the car but it cost me $50 a year to do oil change - a lot of things can be done from your garage floor -that not requires motor drop or trans drop- for example to change spark plugs. I think the dealer wants $900 in labor ! :) You can do it yourself for $100 because that's what what OEM sparkplugs cost...
God damn thats insane keeping maintaince on a car like this. I will stick to more commercial rocking my little Civic 17 touring still running like a champ 43k miles. I am leaning to buying new tires soon since they are already wearing.
@@Asiansxsymbol I love the Nissan GTR a dream car, but I mean I can speak that Honda and Toyota are probably of the few manufacture that make cars last for a while. I will still rock this Civic for a couple of more years for sure.
I enjoy your wealth of knowledge and experience with these amazing cars. It's just a dream for me to ever own a real version of these cars unless my channel blows up. Only time will tell. I'm playing the long game when it comes to the type of content that I produce so it my be a very long time before I ever even sit in one of these amazing cars. Thank you for letting me dream.
I don’t know why this matters or how this relates to video. The GTR maintenance did not sound that bad I got almost six grand wrapped up in my 2008 Evo X MR in maintenance, got a warranty so most of it was covered. My 370z has three grand wrapped up in transmission maintenance and tires.
@@Mihalyofficial na I am not poor, if I can afford 100k car I can pay few hundred on the labor lol. it's not worth saving few hundred bucks and end up fking up the car.
I have a Stage 3+ Audi B5 S4. It's 21 years old. The mods to make it a stage 3 was more costly than this GTR. In fact, other than the price of the original purchase of the car, everything about my old car is more expensive than a GTR... But at least it's less reliable and slower than a GTR, LOL!!!!
Your talking about $110k for a car and I am eyeing a 02 Mustang GT vert for $2300 with something strange with the window motors lol. I am also eying a 07 Eclipse Spyder GT that needs at least 1 new headlight but that requires the front bumper to come off to access it. Eclipse is $4000 but I doubt the guy will sell it for that.
It comes down to scales of economy. When I was young, I struggled to come up with $2000 for my first car. There's no shame in it. Everyone has to start somewhere and of course, in some foreign countries, $2000 is a year's pay.
@@markjmarkjack The stang sold sadly. Still looking around for others. I miss my 01 v6. SDome jackass backed into me and totalled her. Did find another eclipse vert that looks like it might be a better option due to the fact that the headlights can be replaced at home. Whole point of a build for me is can I do it at home without it being too time and labor intensive.
Clicking on this video already knowing I cant afford it 😂
Same 😂😂
Preach
Aren’t you an officer yet LOL ? I’m sure you can afford this car mate 😭💯
You can
Same here.
My stock MKIV Supra turbo(1997) starts up every time and never breaks... never no matter how long it sits. Oil changes are $50 and tires are $400 a set. I cannot complain and the experience of driving one is like nothing else
My truck tires cost more than that.
Nice my godfather has a 1996 m3 bmw he's gonna hand down to me soon
I prefer the first and second gen celica/supras.
@@ralphharrison6622 no you don’t. Cmon
@@jasonhudson8336 don't get me wrong, I like the Mk4, but it's just not my style. I'm older than dirt, and like older cats.
Well, he's giving the cost of what it would be if you have your car serviced, which is fair, because nine out of ten high end car owners will not work on their own cars. Most of us don't have special tools for a Lambo or a Ferrari. And if you work on your car, good for you. You save even more money. I work on my GTR, and it's not even about the money. I just love working on it as a hobby. For some of us, there's a sense of pride and joy to drive my own car right after I worked on it.
Call me nuts but Craig, I would be willing to trade you my 2009 Mitsubishi Spyder Eclipse with 110k miles for your GTR. Now, you might think I am insane -- but for you buddy, Ill make the drive and swap where ever you need but do hurry. A rat chewed some of the wiring and it technically could go up in flames at any moment. Car does not come with rat, he is no longer with us.
Good deal 👍
He'd be an absolute GOOF to refuse this amazing swindle- I mean deal!
@@blazypoo1723 He ran out of time. it burnt.
It's funny how some people don't even think about maintenance costs. Just because you can afford to buy a sports/exotic car, doesn't mean you can afford to maintain it.
Tbh your comment is flawed. If you can afford you should be able to maintain it. Unless you save 100k cash and buy an exotic which the chances of that are extremely low
@@RegionalRadioShackManager I've met three people who has done exactly that.
or insurance, especially for sports/performance vehicles and more so if you're looking to mod it
What If your one of the those owners that's mechcanically inclined and can fix his own car?
@@nitro300 CAN fix vs WILL fix is two different things- I think the majority of owners at a certain pricepoint do little maintenance themselves. I used to do basic maintenance on my cars- brakes, rotors, oil, etc. As I've made more money and am in the position to buy nicer cars I find myself less inclined to do the maintenance myself because I'd rather relax or do other things with my free time. I'm much more inclined to install mods that I'm capable of handling myself rather than maintenance- there's nothing thrilling about swapping out brakes, oil, and filters as far as I'm concerned.
Wow, makes me appreciate how much I have been saving by doing DIY for maintenance on my '17 R35. On oil and Diff fluid especially, it's only a PITA the first few times, but you get used to it soon, and can appreciate the cost savings. Tires will always be the worst part, no evading that one. Thanks for the quick review Craig! 100% agree on the community!
Very welcome!
The amount spent on maintenance listed above could be cut in half if you do the work yourself and search the internet for quality aftermarket parts. Nissan dealers will rake you over the coals for any type of work. These cars are very easy to work on and anyone with a moderate amount of mechanical knowledge can easily do the work themselves. I know that to be a fact. I own a 2010 with 102,000 miles on the ODO and it still runs like new. These are fantastic machines!
wow autotempest, cartrek, drivetribe, r35gtr & criag lieberman what a combination
Thats surprisingly reasonable costs for what the car is. 🥰 Thanks for putting this up.
I'm getting ready to do a transmission and differential service on my 2010 GTR and it cost $310 for the needed amount of Motul High Torque transmission fluid and another $175 for a trans filter and pan gasket. Not outrageous for an 18,000 mile service but then I do the work myself.
After 1 year of ownership, these are my cost.
MX72 pads: $700
2x oil change with RLI and NISMO filter: $110 each (dyi).
Brake fluid (motul 600): $65
Rims and Tires (19in Advan GT w/A052): $5,300
1 Crank Seal: $8 (Subaru brand)
6 Ngk spark plugs: $85
1 coil pack: $15
You also don't need to change your transmission fluid after every track day, only if the temps reach 242f.After 1 year
well said buddy! i loved my GTR, then had my son and the car seat was hard in there. it was a 2009 and man i could tell you how much fun it was on the hills here in Texas. luckly my son is going to be 4 and my wife said its time for the GTR to come back in our lives. :) 2 more weeks and I'm counting down the days.
Nice man have fun
Thanks for this great review. Everyone definitely made it seem super expensive. This breakdown brought everything in to perspective for me. I've own BMW and Mercedes and the maintenance prices out of warranty seems very similar. I just spent $1700 on a set of tires this year. Now I'll continue my search for one. Thank you again.
This is a real man right here!!
Thanks for putting those facts and real numbers out there for us regular folks. Only get to make a purchase like this once in a lifetime!!
Good luck and take care of that beauty!!
For comparison I daily my 2017 Mustang Shelby GT350 and it is $220 per oil change every 5,000 miles even if I buy my own oil. I only use Amsoil 5w-50 and the Amsoil cartridge style filter for my engine. Tires I'm running are 305/30-19 in the front and 325/30-19 in the rear, I only run Michelin Pilot Sport 4s (best balance of performance, tread life, and wet performance) which cost $500+ each (about $2000 all in with no deals). I'm ready for my second set of rear tires after 2 years of ownership. I purchased the car with 51,000 miles and now have 78k on the odometer. I purchased the new tires right around the 60k mark so I have gotten great life out of them for my usage. Figure 2 oil changes a year and tires every 2 years that's about ~$1400/yr just to keep it running without any other fluid changes or maintenance issues. In time it would need a clutch and that is $1500+ just for the clutch and flywheel before install. Even if you go OEM that's not going to save much and may be more depending on pricing you can find. OEM Brake Pads which are pretty decent are about $300 front and $100 rear. Slightly more or less for aftermarket pads. You will eat them up on a track day so expect to change them out with new fluids as well.
Not cheap depending on your usage. If you are tracking you will spend a lot of money on tires, brake pads, and fluids. For a daily or semi daily though, I feel its reasonable if you want a fun car to cruise in and are able to keep up with checking your fluid levels etc. I'd argue that these performance oriented cars are not for you if you want to start it up and just go. There is a little more care involved on the part of the owner.
you should be changing the oil every 3k with such a high revving engine. They also drink oil.
I’ve owned a GT350 prior to my R35 and I think the mustang is more expensive to maintain. Loved the car but they are not holding their value as much as I would have liked. I think I’ll buy another once the price really drops.
These costs reflect if you don't have the means to do your own maintenance. Can easily be reduced 60-75% if you do it yourself
Not everyone is a mechanic though
Thanks for the shout out Craig! A GTR challenge would be a lot of fun.
Thank you for this. This is what I’ve needed to see as move towards buying a GTR.
Lol BMW dealer is quoting me $1400 to change the spark plugs on my F82 M4. I replaced it myself with the same Bosch spark plugs from FCP euro for $37.74 The entire job did took me about an hour and half. To be honest, a huge portion of the premium maintenance cost on a sport car is “performance markup” on both parts and labor. Except for tires maybe
I bought my "well loved" - (some of you would call it abused) - for 48k. Dropped 12k into it and I have the most amazing car I've had in literal years.
I also own a 21 Shelby GT500. Another truly amazing car - these two cars shave years off my life in the very best ways! -- 61 and STILL racing.
They'll bury me in one of them if I have my way. -
Thanks for the great content.
- Aesir -
Legend!
wow what a great review! very good content. I've met 1 dissatisfied GTR owner. He said the car was too gangster and went for a Maserati instead LOL
Lolwut
6:40 - If you are mechanically inclined and have a nice set of quick jacks, you can cut the brake change, drive train and oil change costing to a fraction of that ( by cutting out the labor ) if you like tracking the car, its a strong recommendation to get used to doing these, as well as brake fluid, coolant, power steering etc.. fresh blood makes a mean car... old blood makes a dead car.
That said, I know a few r35 owners, that daily their cars and enjoy the hell out of the cars.
My twin turbo'ed 370z is cost heavy on tires but cheap otherwise (except for the 1st engine i blew at the track... oops) nissans are built well
9:37 34k at the dealership, and 25k mods.. My Z makes me think i should have bought a gtr:) If they only came with standard transmission....
Thank you. The r35 is my “ obtainable dream car” and I’m glad to hear i could live with those prices. Not that much more then my 2016 mustang
*corvette c8 comes in*
Have owned new since 2016 and have done all maintenance at home including trans and diff oil change. Nearly 20k miles and have needed new tires. Car is not tracked. Probably have spent 5k on maintenance so far.
dang 5k since 2016? thats amazing
Dude really? Makes me think I can afford one
@@BorisBidjanSaberi11 lol, yes. Just have to move your bum bum some and watch videos to know what ya doing
My dream car is a r35 and this video really showed me I a lot of information about the cost and the maintenance to own the car.
I Currently Own a 1/18 Scale and there’s No Maintenance Cost. 🥶
The GTR is an awesome car. If I ever part with my 370z Nismo, the GTR will be next on my list
2000-2500 dollars a year in maintenance costs including everything?!
Damn, thats really not thát expensive. Honestly. I expected much worse.
A 'normal' daily driver car can be around 400 to 1000 euro's a year over here in The Netherlands.
it's definitely pretty good going considering in the last 3 years my average maintenance cost per year for my e92 330i was about £3000 ($4000)
What sucks in Europe is the dealer service garages. They are so overpriced and trash work and workers. If you ever get a sportscar or enthusiast car, just befriend a good car mechanic at a local shop. Most of the time you will get better service from them! Bonus: If you already have a mate that's a mechanic :)
All of these is still excluding enormous gasoline for daily uses
My R35 is a 2017 and it's almost stock except from some few extras and improvements. I can agree that it is very reliable and so far it hasn't gave me any troubles or problems. I head some people complained about the transmission or the breaks but I haven't noticed anything in mine. I love this car, and I hope Nissan won't abandon the GT-R series.
Before this video I thought i couldn't afford the GTR. Now, thanks to Craig I KNOW i can't afford it 😔
EXCELLENT!! Excellent info, thank you. I have a 2018 civic Si with 50k & stock breaks still, it has been modified to 326hp & 313tq at the wheels & is my daily. I get 44mpg because i baby it, mostly 😏.
But i am considering a 2023 GT-R. & this is the info i am looking for. I can take the maintenance cost you provided & pretty much cut them in half respectively. Bolt on's & tunes are what they are. I love the way you put everything in perspective like i would do. Again, excellent video good sir 👍
I appreciate how in-depth this was. I'd be really curious to see a similar breakdown of ownership costs for the NC1 NSX, LC500, and/or Porsche 991. Really, any high-end six-figure-ish sports/GT car. We always hear about how much it costs to buy one, but there's more to it than that which seldom gets answered.
CTS-V is fine for me. Performance is still very good at a lot less operating cost even with the mods. I have 535 WHP and it is a strong powertrain and it handles as good as I can drive it.
Best part is when you said: i have never met a GT-R owner that's not happy!!
What a tremendous video Craig, and lots of great findings revealed. I owned an R35 GT-R for a bit over 4 years myself and it definitely resonates with me. Thanks for making this!
A great review Craig. I have owned two R35's and still own a MY2012 R35 and I love it. It's not too expensive to maintenance a R35 in Australia even though our labour costs are high and the cost of transmission and diff oils can be as high as $150AUD per litre. The resale value in Australia is high and they hold their value better than AMG Mercedes and BMW.
Bro I’m in Australia, can you break down some of the costs
Not too bad, I spent over 15k in a 34 month period maintaining and restoring an 92 Mitsubishi Evolution 1 ( hard to find discontinued parts for a car never sold in the U.S)
@W W wow!
The expensive part is how addicting the mods become lol
I’m just starting to mod mine and holy crap.. bought a damn lip for 2k lol
Craig your videos always bring me back to a simpler time, thank you.
I'm gonna grab another set.
Whoa! Whoa,
whoa, whoa! Another set?
No. Look, that was
your third set today.
I mean,
them tires ain't cheap. - F&F: Tokyo Drift
That blue look freaking beautiful!
I find it shocking that the R35 GT-R is the longest running generation unlike the generation of the R32, R33 & R34 where its no more than 3 years vs. the R35 is over 10 years. The R35 has been around longer than its predecessors the R32, R33 & R34 combined probably due to the fact its the more street legal generation in North America.
Or it's the fact that Nissan couldn't afford to develop a successor and is using the R35 platform for as long as it can to milk out cash.
Kinda wrong there... First of all, the Nissan (R35) GT-R is *not* the next-gen Skyline. It's a separate car from its Skyline predecessor.
Following the end of the R34's lifespan, the "Skyline" and "GT-R" badges were separated into two separate cars (or rather, the GT-R sub-range was removed and promoted into its own, separate vehicle). The V35 succeeded the R34 Skyline as an economically practical-but-sporty car. And the R35 succeeded the R34 GT-R as the purebred racecar.
R32: 1989-1994
R33: 1995-1998
R34: 1999-2002
V35: 2001-2005 (aka. Infiniti G35)
V36: 2006-2013 (aka. Infiniti G35/G37/Q40/Q60)
R35: 2009-present
V37: 2014-present (aka. Infiniti Q50)
@@SigTheSauceMan no one talked about the R35 being a skyline here.
I never used the name "Skyline" I only used "GT-R" because even some if not all Japanese call even Craig calls the R32, R33 & R34 a "GT-R" as much as the R35
@@traviswalker8933 he's trying to spill knowledge that everyone already knew. Lol. Let him have his moment.
I think it's the longest running generation because it's the most perfectly balanced generation. Either Nissan doesn't have the money or are scared to build the next gen GTR. Following to the R35 with a dud would be a huge blow to Nissan and the GTR name.
Yeah I dont care about owning a M4, M5 for the same price.
This is my dreamcar. Japanese are so tough built.
And they go so well, its why we love them.
@12:07...those 2 R32s and that 72 Skyline though...😍😍😍🔥🔥🔥
That's not bad at all for a daily driver, super low costs considering the highest expense by far is tires. For someone who uses this as a second car, it's likely half this price.
Lucky haha
Yea a car like this would definitely be a second car I occasionally pull out when I just wanna cruise or show off to my friends.
Really great video and the ownership costs were spot on.
Depends how much you drive it. My CBA was about 7,000$ in average in 5 years of ownership and 20,000km because all the known issues happened to me. Now I got a 2017 and I expect it to cost less as I won't have issues to fix.
If you decide to buy a GT-R get the newest one you can afford because you'll end up spending MUCH less in repairs.
One day. Unfortunately I have to wait till I buy a house with a garage.
This is why you buy the parts and service it yourself, saves alot of money
I just bought a 13 DBA for only 60k already with Full bolt ons. This thing is a rocket and I love it.
I’m shopping right now for one. How many miles did yours have?
@@Waynethegunner it has 100k miles. However it runs amazing and the body is in great shape. You’d never know.
@@keanedavis6151thanks man, very helpful info. Got an IG?
The only way I'll be able to get a GTR 35 is if I win the FL lottery, steal one, or the apocalypse just happened right when am test driving a GTR and am getting out of the city before the zombies get me.
Thanks for the honest opinions and cost prices.
man the tires killed me but they are the most important part of the drive experience for sure. I went from some crappy Falkins to to 888's and it was night and day
I have a c43 amg with warranty and I've had to replace my panoramic roof for $2,000 (mercedes says it is not their part so they do not cover it)
Oil times 3 @ $120 x3
Tires for $900
Warranty covered failing control arms $3,400, center console parts $600
It has 40k miles!
Now the hydraulic hood struts have failed and need to be replaced
2 years = $3,260
1 year $1,630
+ extended warranty until 75k miles for $2,350
So far I would rather spend this kind of money on a GTR than a mercedes where I get called a fake amg once a month. I can get what I paid for it in today's market which is super surprising! Currently looking at 2015 GTR's s for around $80k
Lots of information in a short amount of time. I'll watch it a few times and take notes. My Boost Logic 750x GT-R should be ready to pick up next week. This video is a keeper. Thanks!
congrats!
Congrats man, enjoy the car!
@@madkas14
@@johninnh4880 that's awesome man.
@@madkas14
Basically, if you can only barely afford to buy an R35 used, you probably can’t afford to keep it because of the running costs unless you garage it 95% of the time of ownership.
True, I mean I probably wouldn’t daily a GT-R (mostly because that’d be a lot of highway driving and rock chips are the bane of my existence). But for a weekend / track car that’s actually a great deal if you’re not keen on building your own track car.
Surprisingly, I was seeing them everywhere out here in central Wisconsin the first few years they came out. Even in winter. I died a little bit inside because I refuse to believe every one of those guys put it on a lift and hosed the salt off when they got home.
...and for those who don't track their GTR the costs are a small fraction of this...
Lol right? Oil change, brakes/rotors, tranny fluid and the car is good to go
Even the cost of maintenance can be reduced depending on which fluids you use. I'm not saying cheap out, but I am saying find what matches Nissan's specs and buy accordingly.
You'll be surprised at what you save.
Not surprised to hear the car has been reliable. Should be noted your car is still young... as of course some cars as they age stay pretty solid, and others turn into money pits. Would be interesting to hear how a 10 year, 100K R35 fares.
there's a vid floating around where a guy has a GTR with 200k on the clock. Still holding up to this day. The motor is bullet proof when taken care of.
Hey Criag, would you consider doing a video on the Car Fads/Aesthetic of the 90s- early 2000s?
Neon Underglow, Crazy Vinyls, Decals, Roof Scoops, Window Tints, Colour Shift Paint Carbon Fibre Parts etc?
These things are what I grew up thinking the JDM/Tuner Scene is all about.
It should make for a fun video.
I fell victim of that too 😆
2012’s have 530HP 13-16’s got a bump to 545. 2017+ 565. Get a 13-14 if you want rawness then upgrade the headlights & taillights. 2017+ are not worth those 90k+ prices.
Absolutely love MY13.
Ayyyy good looks on that info man. He kinda glossed over that stuff other than the suspension so I was confused like how did they make it better in any way?
Any idea if the HP is just a tune deal or actual differences on internals (like a different cam profile)?
Craig, I’m sure you’ve done this, but check the date code on those track tires that are now defunct.
Depending on how close they are to 4-5 years of age it might be better to offload them to someone who will use them immediately.
It’s not just high performance cars either.
Standard gas powered non M Bmw oil change, $50. My Diesel wagon, $200.
Standard M54 powered e46 wagon fuel pump $200.
My M56 powered e46 wagon... $9,000. (have to buy a complete tank, new,).
I will!
That’s actually not that bad, given to the amount of years. Some people spend that kind of money annually on clothes alone. Tech stuff, they’ll either never really use or grow out of and eventually render useless. Having a kid or kids costs more than as well.
It’s all about priorities and what you feel spending the money you earn, is worth it.
I plan on buying one of these soon (within a year or so) This was very helpful Craig, thank you.
I really appreciate your hard work and Content 🍺
I always say to people, being able to buy a car and being able to afford one. Sometimes affording one is cheaper to buy, but that's rare.
Thanks for the guys. To clarify the real situation.❤
This includes track use which ups costs exponentially. I want to know how much it’ll be for a daily driver I can occasionally gun on the highway.
I have one and have never tracked my car and can say the costs are very similar for an out of warranty GTR. I put 15,000km (9300mi) on my GTR in 3 years and probably spent at least $10,000 in maintenance only. Not to mention the tens of thousands on performance upgrades.
Screw that, I do my own maintenance on my 2019 R35. I did my oil change, mid pipe and won’t stop there. Btw I’m still under warranty 😁😅
My question is with some gtrs with 100k miles or more how much will these engine rebuilds cost? Just to have a reference, a Porsche engine rebuilds (which I consider very expensive) go for 15k easily just to rebuild it OEM stock.
I read a rebuild for the GTR will be about the same, ~$15k
That's really good breakdown. Thanks for making it simple and at point .
I own a 2012 Nissan GT-R and I love my car. It is is garage queen however but I do the regular oil changes my self. I enjoy it. Could you recommend who I should go to service my car besides the dealer?? Thanks.
The one thing you forgot to mention was the cost of overnighting parts from Japan.
For those saying it’s expensive: after all expenses are said and done, my 2002 Cummins costs more to daily
i don't believe you
@@UnratedPlayer21 450$ a month AT LEAST for diesel, and I only do about 60 miles a week on a long week. 300$ oil changes every 3000. New transmission every 100,000 miles at 3500-7500$ a piece. It all adds up. Bushings going out. Everything. These things are great but they are expensive
@@UnratedPlayer21 alright quick update a shop just quoted me 4500$ to fix my front passenger wheel seal that’s leaking so bad you can watch it drip out, and at least another 500 to fix my 4wd. So yeah.
At that point get a new cummins lol wtf
@@louismccomack9524 yeah my tranny just went out too
tempted to chop the r33 in for an r35 but don't know if I want the paddle shift
Wait for the 33 to appreciate then sell and buy the r35. U should make a profit i think
I considered a r35, but with living in the north east there's not enough nice weather to enjoy it. Plus I would try putting on snow tires and drive it through a blizzard.
Best 👌 video...subscribed..took all my fears 😨 of buying one ...im first at a dealer list to get a 2024...thanks
Craig it awesome meeting you at cars and coffee! Take care brotha hope to see you soon!
I'm guessing they are pretty reliable. The only issue I ever hear about when it comes to Nissan is the known issue with their CVT transmissions. I have an 02 6 speed Maxima with a 3.5 and although it consumes oil it still runs strong at 295,000 miles. I have an 08 CBR1000RR for when I want to have fun.
Dude! Your video is super informative! Thank you. I’ll keep trying until I’m finally able to get a GT-R
Good luck
Great video, concise, & helpful comparisons to vehicles in similar performance/ price categories, & overall general information on different aspects of ownership including cost. Much appreciated
Thanks for the straight forward no bs review of owning a GTR. This is one of my dream cars i hope to own one of these days.
Love my r35 GTR. Sounds about right in maintenance cost.
Knowing how to work on your own car goes a Long ways !!! Most people can't do the easiest things like change their own oil in the diffs and that's the biggest problems with most cars
GTR & RX7s are easy to find here in Australia.
When I started being around people who have luxury cars I was told one thing, if you are buying a car like this it is impolite to ask how much it costs and how much fuel it uses. If you came to buy the GTR or any other super car then I really think you have enough money on the side to live with it and much more.
Great vid, I’m considering buying a 2009/2010 model (here in Australia) prices are round 85k to 95k depending on Ks and bolt-on. I’m not convinced this cars cost a lot of money to maintain and believe they would be a very reliable car if looked after.
Nissans generally aren’t super expensive to maintain. I own a bunch of Z31 300zxs and it’s never really broken the bank.
I should have added, that’s all with upgrades off higher end cars.
This is what it cost if you track the car :) and how many miles you put on it a year - Oil changes are $200? I do oil changes myself and yeah I don't track the car but it cost me $50 a year to do oil change - a lot of things can be done from your garage floor -that not requires motor drop or trans drop- for example to change spark plugs. I think the dealer wants $900 in labor ! :) You can do it yourself for $100 because that's what what OEM sparkplugs cost...
Thank you for this, very informative. R35 is my dream car
It is not required to change the transmission/diff oil after track event if the temp does not reach 130 C.
I run 4S Michelin. Haven't looked back.
Excellent all round tire.
However, note, I do not run my R35 in the winter or rain.
God damn thats insane keeping maintaince on a car like this. I will stick to more commercial rocking my little Civic 17 touring still running like a champ 43k miles. I am leaning to buying new tires soon since they are already wearing.
Because Cali tax
Yes, you keep driving your Civic while rich people keep driving expensive cars. The world keeps turning. 😏
@@Asiansxsymbol I love the Nissan GTR a dream car, but I mean I can speak that Honda and Toyota are probably of the few manufacture that make cars last for a while. I will still rock this Civic for a couple of more years for sure.
I enjoy your wealth of knowledge and experience with these amazing cars. It's just a dream for me to ever own a real version of these cars unless my channel blows up. Only time will tell. I'm playing the long game when it comes to the type of content that I produce so it my be a very long time before I ever even sit in one of these amazing cars. Thank you for letting me dream.
I don’t know why this matters or how this relates to video. The GTR maintenance did not sound that bad I got almost six grand wrapped up in my 2008 Evo X MR in maintenance, got a warranty so most of it was covered. My 370z has three grand wrapped up in transmission maintenance and tires.
Because everyone is always living outside there means thats why people wanna know. Just being real..
I just paid 1k for transmission / front rear differential and brake fluid change for my 2018 Gtr. I think that’s very cheap
Yet you couldve probably done it yourself.
@@Mihalyofficial na I am not poor, if I can afford 100k car I can pay few hundred on the labor lol. it's not worth saving few hundred bucks and end up fking up the car.
I have a Stage 3+ Audi B5 S4. It's 21 years old. The mods to make it a stage 3 was more costly than this GTR. In fact, other than the price of the original purchase of the car, everything about my old car is more expensive than a GTR... But at least it's less reliable and slower than a GTR, LOL!!!!
Got the 2021 model last month
Congrats. It’s a contender for me, I’m sold on the new Corvette z06 though. I’ll see what the final specs are and then go from there.
I have always liked the GT-R but love the 911 more.
@@mocheen4837 same here before u decide to buy one think for who you are getting it for
if you do the maintence yourself you save alot of money and then its only parts cost....
Thanks for the advices Craig! Looking forward to buy in one year from now !!
Fantastic!
Your talking about $110k for a car and I am eyeing a 02 Mustang GT vert for $2300 with something strange with the window motors lol. I am also eying a 07 Eclipse Spyder GT that needs at least 1 new headlight but that requires the front bumper to come off to access it. Eclipse is $4000 but I doubt the guy will sell it for that.
It comes down to scales of economy. When I was young, I struggled to come up with $2000 for my first car. There's no shame in it. Everyone has to start somewhere and of course, in some foreign countries, $2000 is a year's pay.
@@craiglieberman This is true.
I'd take the Mustang, more torque, looks better (person opinion) and a 2V is one of the best sounding V8s with the right exhaust set up.
@@markjmarkjack The stang sold sadly. Still looking around for others. I miss my 01 v6. SDome jackass backed into me and totalled her. Did find another eclipse vert that looks like it might be a better option due to the fact that the headlights can be replaced at home. Whole point of a build for me is can I do it at home without it being too time and labor intensive.
@@BudgetingwithFalyssa Sorry to hear about you car, hopefully your new one will be a good platform to build at home.