The R34 GT-R is an amazing car, but are there better cars for the same money? You betcha. Let's compare the R34 to the R35 and see what else we can get for the money.
nah he didnt get a s14 to give to his son, he had a s14 as a project car and when the time cane for his son to drive thats when he gave it to him, but im sure he turned into a drifter sooner or later though.
R34 ftw. The r35 is technically an audacious car with insane performance and potential but the layout change, engine change(no longer a i6) and driving like a video game no longer make it a Skyline Gtr. Important difference that, cool car though, insane to fix though
Tbh I think the R35 GTR is a cheat code on wheels. Every street racing scene is always dominated by whoever has a GTR and enough bank to mod it. There’s even a GTR World Cup. Having AWD, launch control, and an automatic transmission basically means the thing drives itself. Look at 1320 video and tell me I’m wrong
Craig lieberman, I know you probably won't remember me but you were in south carolina in your uber m3 back in 2007 or 2008 I was in a 2004 rx8 we met while cruising around and you showed me around your m3. You're a pretty cool guy, thanks for that and the videos.
I’m only a bit younger than you Craig, and I had the opportunity to drive r32/33/34’s and supras during the early 2000’s here in Australia. They’re all great cars but the dollars that the west is paying for them at the moment is simply stupid. They were undeniably quick for their time, but the nineties were not the sixties and seventies when everyone was making go fast cars. And in comparison to today’s options, they are adequately powered when modified. But the two things that nobody ever talks about, specifically the gtr’s, is Nissan interior quality was terrible, and the gtr is such a highly strung car, it’s absolutely always breaking stuff. It’s quite possibly the least reliable car Nissan made world wide during the nineties.
I think the 90s was the Golden era of tech and turbos especially Japanese hero cars that it kind of mirrored the 60s Muscle cars but instead of cubes it was turbos. All those 90s cars had poor plastics, my FD in particular shits me in terms of interior quality. My Nissan Stagea (260rs) was a lot better, but it was also a higher priced car. R34s were far better than R32/R33 interiors however. The R32 interiors are fairly bad.
@@gav240z I’ll cop that to a degree, but essentially r33 and r34 are running maxima interiors. And I wouldn’t say that’s good. Other than the seats, there’s literally nothing special about gtr interiors (besides the r34 screen that’s always broken)
@@gav240z but when you’re paying euro exotic money (at 400k aud that’s pretty deep in exotic territory) then these are the things that matter. At 250k you have gallardo superleggera, at 300k you have 599’s, at 400k you have mercielago’s and 675lt’s. This is a real problem for the gtr and supra. I agree with your statement, but how many people will pay that head vs heart price? And how many will actually have the wallet to cover the cost.
@@nathan2483 I don't know why, but I still want an R34 GTR, but not interested in the other exotics. I just want 1 even if it's totally irrational. I have the 260rs Stagea, but I still want a GTR..
I like the R35 GTR it's a awesome car but for me personally the R34 skyline will always be my #1 favorite Japanese sports car of all time and my dream car someday.
OFF TOPIC: Saw some video of a girl fight in Cali. Two chicks battling in the street and all I noticed was a Sil80 in the background. I might be a car guy.
I’ve always enjoyed Skylines (GTR’s) vicariously. Too much headache and money for my personal lifestyle. Love them in my friends garages and collections though, and I get to drive them on cruising days lol.
Your talking stock r34s, we have r34s in Australia running 8s on unprepared roads. Lambos are better though 🤣 you are rite but a built gtr is still king
@@Chris_9010 I owned both. The EK/EJ is a bit more safe and offers better sound insulation but in stock form it looks extremely boring and it's also heavier than the EG. But both are good. My two favourite Civics.
Depends how much it retails for in your country. Here you'd be better off getting a lower trim level and just modding it for the price gap between the Nismo and the other GTRs.
It's explained on another video in this channel. In short: if you have proof that the mods performed to make the cars road-legel have been (crash!) tested multiple times, you can apply these mods to imported cars under the 25 years. MotoRex went down this road and was thus allowed to import them legally. IIRC MotoRex went this route, but there were some shady actions done to actually import them legally, without performing the mods and stuff. Customers who bought their cars through them did get to keep their cars, thus legalizing only a handful of R34's.
I had both R35 and R34. 3 x R34s until now and 2x R35s. And 2 x Supra MK4. My current R34 is the beast. Prices of R34s will go only higher in time, so buying one is not a bad decision. Performance of a stock r34, nope... Fun? yeah! BTW, Please give SOURCES when you use somebody else's footage. You sit and talk this is nice, however, I shot from 11:13 to 11:23 myself for my channel. Be fair. Thanks for the vid.
I would have an R34 GTR over the R35 GTR any day, and I think the rising values reflect this. However, both cars were on the cutting edge of technology upon their release.
@@nathan2483 The display certainly was and it's carried over and improved torque vectoring AWD system was still not found in any rival car at any price range close to it. You could watch TV in your R34 GTR in Japan in 1999 for God's sake! The R34 also beat the benchmark Ferrari and Porsche of the time in cornering, braking and getting off the line. Go watch best motoring, if it had 80 more HP it would have toasted the fastest dealer sold street cars of the time.
@@manveerghuman5276 sorry dude, I was around them when they were pretty much new. They couldn’t keep up with 996 turbos on a wet track. Like not even close. I love them, I still want one, but not for the silly money they’re going for. As for torque vectoring, that was all just slightly evolved from the r32.
@@nathan2483 yeah by the time the R34 came out the Rb26 was a 11 year old design. Older if you consider it came from the Rb20det in the HR31s. Nissan engineers wanted to go V6 for the R34 but Nissan was close to broke at the time.
@@nathan2483 yeah but you realize those cars have more power right? Go watch a more powerful R34 like and S, R or Z Tune, the will spank pretty much all of the fast cars of it's time.
All I ever wanted was an EG6 Si-R (Yes Shingo's car) and my own small shop. Sounds weird but, I want to open a tuning shop but also help disadvantaged families/students in need of getting their cars fixed. I'm 31 hopefully by 34 I can make this dream come true.
R34 = Collectors primary objective to Stash them , If anybody buys them they would not use them, replacement parts are hard to get and expensive, the Network for R34 is not like the SR20DET, People will be scared to show them off because of thieves R35 = Usable, Parts are still expensive but easier to get compare to the R34, If your a DIY'er the R35 won't be that intimidated by maintenance and wrenching under the hood. I believe the insurance will be more for the R34 Price = R34 vs R35 = The winner R35, the R34 price once their legal in the U.S over $100k and plus if a NSX on Top Rank website (import a vehicle) right now (4-1-2021) for $99,995 just picture it for the R34.
It is 100% an emotional purchase. Love everything about it from looks, feel, and sound. Which is also exactly why I could never purchase one. Over priced and out of reach now compared to a few years ago. Still one can dream or hope.
Manual, manual all the way. No way I am driving an auto/DSG performance car. Speed isn't on my top list, I much prefer driver engagement and in control
I love the R34, my favorite car, but the only way to buy one is by being a millionaire. There is no way; I'm taking a $250k loan to buy it. Probably $50k-70k that's it.
All those performance metrics stock vs stock may be true, and I don't disagree with it at all. You simply don't compete against 20 years worth of advancing technology. But the thing is, if we're talking aesthetics which wasn't compared because it's a subjective thing... the R-34 trounces the R-35, all day every day. It's an absolutely stunning car, an iconic car. Popular culture may have A LOT to do with that, but it is what it is. The R-35 is never going to be as iconic as the R-34 was in terms of aesthetics. Hell I'd even argue the R-33 is a better looking car than the R-35. It's the same story with the A80 vs A90 Supras. All else being equal, I'd take a nearly 20 year old A80 over an A90 any day in the week, even if the A90's weren't glorified BMWs and had kept the legendary 2JZ. Aesthetics play a large role in why we buy the cars we buy. Then you have performance, and other metrics like whether a car is a good modding platform, etc. I admit that the looks of the R-35 have grown on me over the years, especially the eye-watering priced Nismo trim, but it still doesn't hold a candle to the R-34. If money was no object to me, and I could only have one GTR, It'd absolutely be a Midnight Purple 3 R-34 V-Spec II. I'd say Z-Tune but I gotta be a little realistic here.
Japanese cars are the best sports cars over the Germans and Italians because of reliability, no one wants to mess with old M products or old AMGs because they will cost a shit load in repairs lmao
Basically. The the R34 is not for a person that wants to show off. The R34 is for a person who wants to experience the ownership of the car after years of wanting to even see one. The R35 too. I'd settle for a nice Purple R33 V-spec, or a Mint R30 Turbo to be honest... Ok... Who am I kidding. I desperately want a Millenium Jade R34, but I'm 20 years old. I will never get to even see one, let alone drive and own one
I’m in the same boat, I would want an R34 in white but I’m ok with settling down for an R33 or worst case scenario an R32. I’m not much younger than you and with how prices are looking, the future ain’t looking bright for us who want to be in the position to get our dream R34
Thanks to 2 fast 2 furious the r34 has become extremely legendary but this don’t mean the r35 is low value and trash I love both I don’t care which is better both are legendary in my eyes
@@ShiningJudgment666 yeah that car was built to become Nissans own supercar as everyone else in the mother was making them doesn’t make the R35 any less badass
Ok Heres My Take Skyline R34 for nostalgia looks and fanboyism from all angles GTR R35 for Face Ripping Launches from Factory plus Ease of drivability from a novice Level Both Have their advantages and disadvantages if i had the oppurtunity id buy both coupes are critically endangered species in the world gotta buy while we still got em ya know
@@EbilEnemyofBurgerTown absoutley agree 1 thing though this list is about R34 Vs R35 so thats why its DQ from the debate as craig didnt put it down otherwise i could have put my take on that aswell
GT-R is the real deal but let's be honest. Non GT-R R34s are much better and more affordable. Besdies the collector's car aspect it's much more reasonable to buy GT-T or even a GT model with manual, put GT-R "inspired" front bumper, get a giant wing and invest some money into performance parts. Such car will never be as desirable as a genuine GT-R, but it will look and and sound pretty much the same. Heck, I honestly like how stock GTT looks like.
My heart wants the r34 to win. But my mind says it's probably the r35. Either way both are unobtainium for me. Never meet your heroes I guess. I do have a selfie with an r34 GTT. So I was up close to one at least.
@@nick3777 What are the odds of winning the lottery? I live in Australia so it's much easier to get a GTR here but they're still not cheap. Hell, even non-GTR Skylines are going up in price.
All this hype for getting 25 year old cars should go to dropping this bullshit rule that makes it illegal to import newer cars. And while your at it, disassemble the dealerships business model as well. This idea brought to you by person living in Europe.
C'mon Craig, Pam Anderson is holding up pretty damn good all things considered and shes a saint of a human being.... she threw Julian Assange a piece when he was locked up in the Ecuadorian embassy. In highschool I had a older friend of mine who was way outta my league throw me some after i was depressed from getting ghosted by this girl i really liked. I was all torn up about it but turns out the cure is your more popular and much hotter friend who's two grades older then you making out and giving you an over the pants handy at a huge graduation party that coincidentally was also being attended by the girl that broke my heart. Then she started a rumor that i had a big D(thank god it wasn't a complete lie) and was way better at hooking up then i objectivity knew was actually true at the time. She did me one of the biggest solids anybody has ever done for me. Shes married with kids and we are still good friends. Husband is a awesome guy 2, and loves telling this story.(we never told him about the handy part of the story just outta respect)
One of the biggest drawbacks of buying an R34 is the availability and pricing of spare parts, if you plan on actually driving it and keeping it as oem as possible (to keep those resell prices up). Imagine not driving your car for 3 months plus, because you can't get the parts at once etc... And if you find them, you'll pay a very hefty R34 tax on them ;).
It is legendary, but for other reasons. It's absolutely a better driving car than an R32. It has so many advancements that the average owner doesn't get, even beyond looks.
@@Und34d_R maybe. IMO the R34 wouldn't be as successful if it was badged as another car. It being a GTR is what attracted people to it. It never got to show its potential other than being a darling for tuners.
I'm a nerd and a purist. I specifically wanted a 92 because it was the last year they were allowed to race. I also bought one that came from Yokohama. I found the original owner of the car, who told me that he drove it on both Q-Chan and the Bayside run. It's a white series 2, so only about 1800 of those were made. I built it originally to 630hp (using the stock low-mount twins configuration) because that's how much the Group A cars had to start with. Later I turned it up to 2.0 bar for about 750whp. I then roll-raced an R35 up to 170mph (down in Mexico) and we were side by side the whole time. The car is amazing and even grips like crazy on wet pavement with 255's square. Yes, all successive models after the R32 are better, but even a Series 2 R32 is still one extremely impressive machine, and I like that it's very mechanical still, so has a very raw feel, unlike a lot of modern supercars I've driven that feel very disconnected from the road. Honestly, I think the RB26 series of cars are near perfection, and the RB can be built to stupid HP that at least in a straight line can keep up with most average R35s (except the 2000+hp monsters we have here in Colo). Edit: I purchased the car with 20k original miles on it for 28k. I put another 22k into it for parts and labor for the build. It has a full track suspension setup and Nismo wheels with solid tires for racing, so it still might not carve corners as fast as an R35, but I only have a total of about 55k in it vs a LOT more for a bone-stock R35. It really boils down to what you want to experience in your ownership.
Do you see how expensive those old Lambos are? They were easily outpaced by cars a few years after they were made. Yet the values still go up because people love the car.
As an old school 46 years old person I would prefer a manual R34 to my R35 but in my region is impossible to get one and the right driving side option made things even worse. The R35 is driving machine with a brutal acceleration and also easy to drive even everyday. I don't like modern automatic gearboxes but it seems this is how car tech goes.
Bought your son an s14? Are you currently accepting adoption papers?🤣
nah he didnt get a s14 to give to his son, he had a s14 as a project car and when the time cane for his son to drive thats when he gave it to him, but im sure he turned into a drifter sooner or later though.
Yes but, which will be a better engine for a Skyline, a Gallo 12 or a Gallo 24?
Uh... Gallo 24
I didn’t know pizza places made motors
Gallo 24
12? 24? You're confused pizza boy...use a vr38dett
Just slam a pizza in there and go to the dragstrip
I got really into the R34 after 2Fast 2Furious, so thanks for being part of that👏
Same here
I concur
So did literally the rest of the JDM world. They'd be like 15k right now if not for that movie.
I thought was a 1993 honda accord, from the front it was similar to me
Kid me thought it was cool back then but after a tiny bit of research and watching the 4th film I prefer the that one
"I wanted Pamela Anderson as a girlfriend but damn that choise won't aged well" 😂😂😂 what a legend 😂
R34 ftw. The r35 is technically an audacious car with insane performance and potential but the layout change, engine change(no longer a i6) and driving like a video game no longer make it a Skyline Gtr. Important difference that, cool car though, insane to fix though
R34 🤤
Craig should do a videos talking about every cars he had owned ...what a nice taste he have
Tbh I think the R35 GTR is a cheat code on wheels. Every street racing scene is always dominated by whoever has a GTR and enough bank to mod it. There’s even a GTR World Cup. Having AWD, launch control, and an automatic transmission basically means the thing drives itself. Look at 1320 video and tell me I’m wrong
Craig lieberman, I know you probably won't remember me but you were in south carolina in your uber m3 back in 2007 or 2008 I was in a 2004 rx8 we met while cruising around and you showed me around your m3. You're a pretty cool guy, thanks for that and the videos.
r32 > all other gtrs in terms of looks. the r35/34 might have better technology but the r32 is a beauty
Nah r34 is best in all fields
I’m only a bit younger than you Craig, and I had the opportunity to drive r32/33/34’s and supras during the early 2000’s here in Australia. They’re all great cars but the dollars that the west is paying for them at the moment is simply stupid. They were undeniably quick for their time, but the nineties were not the sixties and seventies when everyone was making go fast cars. And in comparison to today’s options, they are adequately powered when modified.
But the two things that nobody ever talks about, specifically the gtr’s, is Nissan interior quality was terrible, and the gtr is such a highly strung car, it’s absolutely always breaking stuff. It’s quite possibly the least reliable car Nissan made world wide during the nineties.
I think the 90s was the Golden era of tech and turbos especially Japanese hero cars that it kind of mirrored the 60s Muscle cars but instead of cubes it was turbos.
All those 90s cars had poor plastics, my FD in particular shits me in terms of interior quality.
My Nissan Stagea (260rs) was a lot better, but it was also a higher priced car. R34s were far better than R32/R33 interiors however. The R32 interiors are fairly bad.
@@gav240z I’ll cop that to a degree, but essentially r33 and r34 are running maxima interiors. And I wouldn’t say that’s good. Other than the seats, there’s literally nothing special about gtr interiors (besides the r34 screen that’s always broken)
@@nathan2483 it's not European quality that's for sure. But values are not really about interior quality, it's about hero status cars as you know.
@@gav240z but when you’re paying euro exotic money (at 400k aud that’s pretty deep in exotic territory) then these are the things that matter. At 250k you have gallardo superleggera, at 300k you have 599’s, at 400k you have mercielago’s and 675lt’s. This is a real problem for the gtr and supra.
I agree with your statement, but how many people will pay that head vs heart price? And how many will actually have the wallet to cover the cost.
@@nathan2483 I don't know why, but I still want an R34 GTR, but not interested in the other exotics. I just want 1 even if it's totally irrational.
I have the 260rs Stagea, but I still want a GTR..
9:14 broke my heart 💔😭
Hurrt my soul
Hard to say but R34 GTR takes the cake for Nostalgia but it won’t beat the old 70s GTRs
Proper Hakosuka GTRs are arguably unicorn level. Even non-GTR variants are absurdly up there in price.
Early 1970’s GTR all day long
I saw a R34 yesterday and it is beautiful
I saw about 2 r35 were i live, there sound is so different from anything and saw a gallardo a while back
I like the R35 GTR it's a awesome car but for me personally the R34 skyline will always be my #1 favorite Japanese sports car of all time and my dream car someday.
I'm pretty nostalgic for the R34, but the R35 was a pretty decent evolution as well.
I own a 35 but my heart will always belong to the 34.. ☺
Good luck bro maybe one day u own both
I think both are great.
Both this GT-R R34 and R35.
The GT-R R34 V-spec introduce me in Gran Turismo 2
Yeah for a lot of people
@@manveerghuman5276 R34 GT-R : influence me on Gran Turismo video games.
R35 GT-R: influence me on Top Gear and Best Motoring and Hot Version video.
@@FaridFauzan2405 same
OFF TOPIC: Saw some video of a girl fight in Cali. Two chicks battling in the street and all I noticed was a Sil80 in the background. I might be a car guy.
They are both subpar compared to the R32 in Bayside Blue!!!
The r34 will still be the most iconic for two reasons:rb26dett and paul's 2fast 2furious skyline
RIP paul walker
Y'all forget that it was WAY MORE ICONIC before movies
That E46 was so nice
Love those wheels on it, and the colour.
Neither. R32 is better 😈
_Pick your poison_
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 this is true tbh i just think the 34 is overhyped
R32 is the ONLY REAL GODZILLA. R33 and R34 were never raced outside of Japan. The r32 is the big daddy group a mauler.
Both GTRs are great
And The correct answer is..... R32
This channel could be so much better if our man Craig got a better editor...
Coolest dad ever @1:01
imagine getting a sickass s14 as your first car
Happy to take either, bayside blue, unmodified, right hand drive. Thanks.
This is the guy that supplies the cars and help make Fast and the Furious PART 1
Hey Craig have you ever seen the parody of The Fast and The Furious called SuperFast! Lol
Time to hire an audio editor!
34... just for that RB26!
I’ve always enjoyed Skylines (GTR’s) vicariously.
Too much headache and money for my personal lifestyle.
Love them in my friends garages and collections though, and I get to drive them on cruising days lol.
Your talking stock r34s, we have r34s in Australia running 8s on unprepared roads.
Lambos are better though 🤣 you are rite but a built gtr is still king
I'm all about go...so I'd go for the R35. It has "go" off the showroom floor stock.
You don't need an R34 gtr that's why I would choose gtst 4 door variant
Both. Both is good.
The better one is the one you can afford to love.
I still what a r34
I mean personally I don’t like the r34, but if it was an r32 then 100% I would go for the r32 over the 35
I prefer a 1992 Honda Civic hatch.
Better be running spoon engines.
1998 is the best tho
@@Chris_9010 I owned both. The EK/EJ is a bit more safe and offers better sound insulation but in stock form it looks extremely boring and it's also heavier than the EG. But both are good. My two favourite Civics.
12k GTR’s were made. I wonder how many GTT R34’s were made? If you have this answer please reply. EDIT: Coupes only.
Probably a decent amount but they'd probably still be in decent demand for those that want an R34 but can't afford a GTR.
Nismo R35 is best car for the money, but if you can store the R34 and take car of it. It will make you a ton of money due to supply and demand.
Depends how much it retails for in your country. Here you'd be better off getting a lower trim level and just modding it for the price gap between the Nismo and the other GTRs.
The R33 😅
I would love a R35, but I hate paddleshifter automatics. R34 all day
The R34 will always be better. It's the last Skyline made as the R35 does not carry the Skyline name.
They rebranded the Skylines so their paths actually just split really. The Infiniti G35/37/etc was also badged as a Skyline.
how were u able to obtain an r34 back then with the 25 year import rule
It's explained on another video in this channel. In short: if you have proof that the mods performed to make the cars road-legel have been (crash!) tested multiple times, you can apply these mods to imported cars under the 25 years. MotoRex went down this road and was thus allowed to import them legally.
IIRC MotoRex went this route, but there were some shady actions done to actually import them legally, without performing the mods and stuff.
Customers who bought their cars through them did get to keep their cars, thus legalizing only a handful of R34's.
On a technical level: *R35*
In our hearts: *R34*
On official motorsports:R32
🤣
R33 anyone
@@ixm2unvrz hell ya r33 all day everyday
But what about the R31? :(
What about the R29?
We need an r36 that looks like an r34 and drives like a modern beast
Yes, please.
R35 is way more aerodynamic
@@zogbog6483 r34 looks way better
@@bigbadvicHo depends on who you ask
@@zogbog6483 majority of the world would agree with me
I had both R35 and R34. 3 x R34s until now and 2x R35s. And 2 x Supra MK4. My current R34 is the beast. Prices of R34s will go only higher in time, so buying one is not a bad decision. Performance of a stock r34, nope... Fun? yeah!
BTW, Please give SOURCES when you use somebody else's footage. You sit and talk this is nice, however, I shot from 11:13 to 11:23 myself for my channel. Be fair.
Thanks for the vid.
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Can't believe how emotional I get about this stuff. Thanks for such a positive impact on my childhood Mr Lieberman
You gave your son a s14 drift car, best dad ever lol
where can I sign up for adoption?
R34 for nostalgia but R35 for maximum performance and technology
Yeah basically
I would have an R34 GTR over the R35 GTR any day, and I think the rising values reflect this. However, both cars were on the cutting edge of technology upon their release.
R34 definitely wasn’t cutting edge anymore. There’s only very basic changes mechanically between r32 and r34. R32 was cutting edge.
@@nathan2483 The display certainly was and it's carried over and improved torque vectoring AWD system was still not found in any rival car at any price range close to it. You could watch TV in your R34 GTR in Japan in 1999 for God's sake! The R34 also beat the benchmark Ferrari and Porsche of the time in cornering, braking and getting off the line. Go watch best motoring, if it had 80 more HP it would have toasted the fastest dealer sold street cars of the time.
@@manveerghuman5276 sorry dude, I was around them when they were pretty much new. They couldn’t keep up with 996 turbos on a wet track. Like not even close. I love them, I still want one, but not for the silly money they’re going for. As for torque vectoring, that was all just slightly evolved from the r32.
@@nathan2483 yeah by the time the R34 came out the Rb26 was a 11 year old design. Older if you consider it came from the Rb20det in the HR31s.
Nissan engineers wanted to go V6 for the R34 but Nissan was close to broke at the time.
@@nathan2483 yeah but you realize those cars have more power right? Go watch a more powerful R34 like and S, R or Z Tune, the will spank pretty much all of the fast cars of it's time.
R32 obviously 🙄 r32 cal sonic grew up watching that car racing but between these two r34 is my favorite
All I ever wanted was an EG6 Si-R (Yes Shingo's car) and my own small shop. Sounds weird but, I want to open a tuning shop but also help disadvantaged families/students in need of getting their cars fixed. I'm 31 hopefully by 34 I can make this dream come true.
Civics are a good tuner car. Sounds like a fairly reasonable dream. Best of luck my friend.
@@sauceboss2210 ありがとう👍
Good luck, brother.
I always loved the R34 but as a R35 owner i wouldnt trade it for a R34 at all, its a superior car in every way.
the envy, my absolute dream car. being a marine in japan twice is when I fell in love with the GTR
R34 = Collectors primary objective to Stash them , If anybody buys them they would not use them, replacement parts are hard to get and expensive, the Network for R34 is not like the SR20DET, People will be scared to show them off because of thieves
R35 = Usable, Parts are still expensive but easier to get compare to the R34, If your a DIY'er the R35 won't be that intimidated by maintenance and wrenching under the hood.
I believe the insurance will be more for the R34
Price = R34 vs R35 = The winner R35, the R34 price once their legal in the U.S over $100k and plus if a NSX on Top Rank website (import a vehicle) right now (4-1-2021) for $99,995 just picture it for the R34.
Patiently prowling in shadows vs. Young enthusiast's wet dream
Dude, you’re everywhere💀
Cringe
It is 100% an emotional purchase. Love everything about it from looks, feel, and sound. Which is also exactly why I could never purchase one. Over priced and out of reach now compared to a few years ago. Still one can dream or hope.
what is 78k worth today?
110 grand?
Manual, manual all the way. No way I am driving an auto/DSG performance car. Speed isn't on my top list, I much prefer driver engagement and in control
I love the R34, my favorite car, but the only way to buy one is by being a millionaire. There is no way; I'm taking a $250k loan to buy it. Probably $50k-70k that's it.
R34 gtt body + genuine r34 gtr quarter panels(Nissan heritage collection), + Vr38 swap?
@@BriShep123 that sounds about right. Thats about the $80-90k, or maybe less.
@@BriShep123 vr38 wouldn't fit until you throw some real money lol, i say sticking to rb25 will do
@@mac_19 ok
All those performance metrics stock vs stock may be true, and I don't disagree with it at all. You simply don't compete against 20 years worth of advancing technology. But the thing is, if we're talking aesthetics which wasn't compared because it's a subjective thing... the R-34 trounces the R-35, all day every day. It's an absolutely stunning car, an iconic car. Popular culture may have A LOT to do with that, but it is what it is. The R-35 is never going to be as iconic as the R-34 was in terms of aesthetics. Hell I'd even argue the R-33 is a better looking car than the R-35. It's the same story with the A80 vs A90 Supras. All else being equal, I'd take a nearly 20 year old A80 over an A90 any day in the week, even if the A90's weren't glorified BMWs and had kept the legendary 2JZ.
Aesthetics play a large role in why we buy the cars we buy. Then you have performance, and other metrics like whether a car is a good modding platform, etc. I admit that the looks of the R-35 have grown on me over the years, especially the eye-watering priced Nismo trim, but it still doesn't hold a candle to the R-34. If money was no object to me, and I could only have one GTR, It'd absolutely be a Midnight Purple 3 R-34 V-Spec II. I'd say Z-Tune but I gotta be a little realistic here.
R34 and it isn't even close. I6 > V6, you can't change my mind.
I can give you credibility if you've actually had both. Have you?
Saving for a house while watching your dream car go up in price is truly painful (not a GTR btw)
What is it
Thanks for the Shoutout Craig!:)
that hurt watching the White R34 getting crushed
Japanese cars are the best sports cars over the Germans and Italians because of reliability, no one wants to mess with old M products or old AMGs because they will cost a shit load in repairs lmao
Cant go wrong with a 300zx, evo, supra, and etc!
996 turbo which literally has a engine out of a gt1 race car that can reliably make 700hp on a stock trans and bottom end : *sad turbo noises*
I like how he got real at the end tho
"Spend the money on something better"
Basically. The the R34 is not for a person that wants to show off.
The R34 is for a person who wants to experience the ownership of the car after years of wanting to even see one.
The R35 too.
I'd settle for a nice Purple R33 V-spec, or a Mint R30 Turbo to be honest...
Ok... Who am I kidding. I desperately want a Millenium Jade R34, but I'm 20 years old. I will never get to even see one, let alone drive and own one
I feel the same.
I’m in the same boat, I would want an R34 in white but I’m ok with settling down for an R33 or worst case scenario an R32. I’m not much younger than you and with how prices are looking, the future ain’t looking bright for us who want to be in the position to get our dream R34
Thanks to 2 fast 2 furious the r34 has become extremely legendary but this don’t mean the r35 is low value and trash I love both I don’t care which is better both are legendary in my eyes
Definatly
The R35 is a full fledged supercar from factory so it's a little different.
@@ShiningJudgment666 yeah that car was built to become Nissans own supercar as everyone else in the mother was making them doesn’t make the R35 any less badass
34 is the car that my generation loves.
35 is the car the next generation loves
If you want performance the R35 is just better. Those VR38s are no joke.
I’d rather get an R34 gtst
Ok Heres My Take
Skyline R34 for nostalgia looks and fanboyism from all angles
GTR R35 for Face Ripping Launches from Factory plus Ease of drivability from a novice Level
Both Have their advantages and disadvantages if i had the oppurtunity id buy both coupes are critically endangered species in the world gotta buy while we still got em ya know
I wouldn't buy a car just for nostalgia.
@@traviswalker8933 and then theirs me 😎
If i won lotto 😁
@@DEFECTEDSTREETRACER
Nah, R32 is better
@@EbilEnemyofBurgerTown absoutley agree 1 thing though this list is about R34 Vs R35 so thats why its DQ from the debate as craig didnt put it down otherwise i could have put my take on that aswell
R34 VS R35, the choice that determines if you're a 9 or 10 year old
GT-R is the real deal but let's be honest. Non GT-R R34s are much better and more affordable. Besdies the collector's car aspect it's much more reasonable to buy GT-T or even a GT model with manual, put GT-R "inspired" front bumper, get a giant wing and invest some money into performance parts. Such car will never be as desirable as a genuine GT-R, but it will look and and sound pretty much the same. Heck, I honestly like how stock GTT looks like.
I love the Engineered Explained quip in the video.
My heart wants the r34 to win. But my mind says it's probably the r35. Either way both are unobtainium for me.
Never meet your heroes I guess.
I do have a selfie with an r34 GTT. So I was up close to one at least.
Never say never mane
@@nick3777 What are the odds of winning the lottery? I live in Australia so it's much easier to get a GTR here but they're still not cheap. Hell, even non-GTR Skylines are going up in price.
While performance numbers are clearly better on the R35, I still think the R34 is a better looking car as far as style goes.
All this hype for getting 25 year old cars should go to dropping this bullshit rule that makes it illegal to import newer cars. And while your at it, disassemble the dealerships business model as well.
This idea brought to you by person living in Europe.
C'mon Craig, Pam Anderson is holding up pretty damn good all things considered and shes a saint of a human being.... she threw Julian Assange a piece when he was locked up in the Ecuadorian embassy. In highschool I had a older friend of mine who was way outta my league throw me some after i was depressed from getting ghosted by this girl i really liked. I was all torn up about it but turns out the cure is your more popular and much hotter friend who's two grades older then you making out and giving you an over the pants handy at a huge graduation party that coincidentally was also being attended by the girl that broke my heart. Then she started a rumor that i had a big D(thank god it wasn't a complete lie) and was way better at hooking up then i objectivity knew was actually true at the time. She did me one of the biggest solids anybody has ever done for me. Shes married with kids and we are still good friends. Husband is a awesome guy 2, and loves telling this story.(we never told him about the handy part of the story just outta respect)
There is an importer in my area that has a 1991 r32 sitting in the showroom right now asking $40k it's got 153km/94mi showing it looks great.
One of the biggest drawbacks of buying an R34 is the availability and pricing of spare parts, if you plan on actually driving it and keeping it as oem as possible (to keep those resell prices up). Imagine not driving your car for 3 months plus, because you can't get the parts at once etc... And if you find them, you'll pay a very hefty R34 tax on them ;).
we can always overnight parts from Japan (^__^)
@@paulinelambert7780 It wouldn't be overnight though. But I'm pretty sure Nissan are making replacement parts for those R32/33/34 Skylines/GTRs.
the R33GT is better!💪😅
your not wrong gts turbo amazing piece of machinery
@@JoeGCards I've been infatuated with the R33GT since 1997 when i first seen it in Japan in real life. such a beautiful car
@@PANTYEATR1 do when I decide to sell my sealed Pokémon box I’ll buy one out in full lol 😆
@@PANTYEATR1 body is sik looks a mean machine. Like the silver me 😎
The one I can buy parts at Pepboys incase I break down on the side of the road lol
Both are great but the r34 looks cooler, it's a shame that the r32, r33, and r34 were not sold in America.
Skyline r34 GTR ALL DAY
Craig, the S14 drift car
Please do a video of it
Today i saw a s14 with a r33 front end on it, looked rough
"legendary R34 GTR"
The R34 was never that successful in motorsport as much as the R32 and R33 did. It only rode on the success of the previous 2.
Probably because it was banned lmfao
@@bigreddaman5988 so why call it legendary then?
It is legendary, but for other reasons. It's absolutely a better driving car than an R32. It has so many advancements that the average owner doesn't get, even beyond looks.
@@Und34d_R maybe. IMO the R34 wouldn't be as successful if it was badged as another car. It being a GTR is what attracted people to it. It never got to show its potential other than being a darling for tuners.
@@bigreddaman5988Wrong
I'm a nerd and a purist. I specifically wanted a 92 because it was the last year they were allowed to race. I also bought one that came from Yokohama. I found the original owner of the car, who told me that he drove it on both Q-Chan and the Bayside run. It's a white series 2, so only about 1800 of those were made. I built it originally to 630hp (using the stock low-mount twins configuration) because that's how much the Group A cars had to start with. Later I turned it up to 2.0 bar for about 750whp. I then roll-raced an R35 up to 170mph (down in Mexico) and we were side by side the whole time. The car is amazing and even grips like crazy on wet pavement with 255's square. Yes, all successive models after the R32 are better, but even a Series 2 R32 is still one extremely impressive machine, and I like that it's very mechanical still, so has a very raw feel, unlike a lot of modern supercars I've driven that feel very disconnected from the road. Honestly, I think the RB26 series of cars are near perfection, and the RB can be built to stupid HP that at least in a straight line can keep up with most average R35s (except the 2000+hp monsters we have here in Colo).
Edit: I purchased the car with 20k original miles on it for 28k. I put another 22k into it for parts and labor for the build. It has a full track suspension setup and Nismo wheels with solid tires for racing, so it still might not carve corners as fast as an R35, but I only have a total of about 55k in it vs a LOT more for a bone-stock R35. It really boils down to what you want to experience in your ownership.
R32 is king vspec 2 will always be the true godzilla
R35's are more affordable than R34 GT-R's now.
Dam... your son got an s14 as a first car. Thats savage.
Do you see how expensive those old Lambos are? They were easily outpaced by cars a few years after they were made. Yet the values still go up because people love the car.
Love the content man! Never stop creating !
The r34 gtr skyline is better
Thank you
not really lol, i say r32 much better than 34, cheaper, meaner looking with the same RB
@@mac_19 R32 better than the R34? You tripping balls dude. R34 will always be the king 👑
Not logistically or statistically. Only thing going for the r34 is its looks. Everything else goes to the r35
@@8FigureEarner619R34 didn't earn the Godzilla nickname
As an old school 46 years old person I would prefer a manual R34 to my R35 but in my region is impossible to get one and the right driving side option made things even worse. The R35 is driving machine with a brutal acceleration and also easy to drive even everyday. I don't like modern automatic gearboxes but it seems this is how car tech goes.