The Problem With GTA Online
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This is a documentary focused on what we feel is wrong with the current state of Grand Theft Auto: Online. We've put together a highly edited, in-depth analysis of each issue, and included possible solutions for many. These issues are everywhere, being voiced by many in the community.
Please watch it, and discuss your thoughts in the comments.
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-Featuring:
Dexter Manning, From Sanity Not Included as Rockstar Employee
Maxwell Sturgis as New Player In Store Sketch
-Research by:
Lucas Nagy
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I find it ironic that gta was about the parody of greed and corrupt business culture in USA yet it becomes the thing it make fun of
Like the history of the Monopoly board game.
"you have become the thing you sought to destroy"
And the worst thing about it is that they fail to make fun of themselves for that reason.
That thing at 9:23 you can hear is actualy a advertisement which you can sometimes hear in the ingame radio. *and it is the only non parody ad in the entire world of GTA*
Honestly I think that thats just sad. What where they thinking when, after making all of these highly sarchastic and critical of society radio ads, they created this bulls***? "Oh yeah it will fit guys! I bet nobody will be mad at us."
And they still make fun of themselves that’s the best part of rockstar, they don’t give a shit and we like that
What are you talking about I’ve never bought a single Shark card for this game.
you know the economy is broken when a hacker joins and instead of hate, they get idolised and asked to bless players with money
I feel like the game would get boring fast if you got money dropped. You’d buy everything within a week then what? Start blowing up other players for no reason. That’s why so many griefers are glitchers
@@MonroeSim of course, but i feel like that also brings back the point of how rockstar made grinding so bad that hackers join, bad grind = more hackers = boring gameplay
@@freeonreal true I respect your opinion. I just see a lot of people in the comments that sound like they want to be rich with little to no work
@@MonroeSim yeah i see that too, you should have to grind for money, but gta v grinding is too extreme, like stated in the video it can cost you tens or sometimes even hundreds of hours to obtain 1 vehicle, money in gta v just seems so impossible to get and, i know it seems like im just repeating stuff from the video, but that can (and has) made a large portion of the players quit
@@MonroeSim Its fun when a hacker joins, drops u like 500k so you can tune your trash car that you've been grinding yo get and dont have money left to tune and then does some funny shit like spawning all police cars or asks if you want to be slingshotted in a car or makes snow when someone asks for it or drives around in a UFO or simply does funny stuff
I like to come back to this video occasionally and see how _literally nothing_ changed
Cayo Perico and treasure hunts lemming
i can get 1M - 2M like, 3 - 4 times aday if i grind for the day via dimond conseno with 1 friend sooo.......
@@Racinrasslinfan36 rip cayo perico
cayo was damn boring anyways. After the first dozen runs I couldnt stomach to even sit afk and talk to my friends while they do it@@cursdtoeatpsywheneverimaskedto
here we are in 2023, GtaVI announced and all i can think about is how bad its online mode will be
Rockstar likes to patch money glitches as quickly as they come out, but they leave game breaking glitches that ruin other players’ fun and just let them stay for years. It’s like when they see players having fun, they’re like “Nope, you can’t do that, and now we’re going to ban you for trying to not give us money!” But nahh, when they see game breaking glitches that ruin other player’s fun they’re like “Eh, they’ll still give us money, keep that glitch in there for another year!”
yeah I think glitch for the god mode speedo custom is still active, and its been in the game for like 7 years now.
The game is called Grand Theft Auto yet I can't steal cars and store them in my garage
For real
you can steal most cars as long as they are under 30k to buy online
@@joshhogue5860 wouldnt that just destroy the idea of ya know a "GRAND THEFT"
Because you cant steal expensive stuff
@@metaford3746 i mean you can steal diamonds during the casino heist so....
@@joshhogue5860 shady p2w game design still shady p2w game design
Dont try to defend them
I remember when everyone's goal on GTA Online was to live in Eclipse Tower, own the Truffade Adder and steal a jet from the mili base.
Good ole days lol now I have everything in the game
This is why i want GTA VI
oh my gosh...i remember having the 9F was really good. Adder meant you were RICH. Now...Khanjali through Downtown. xD literally earned every penny through grind.
Glory days, right there.
Video from 5 months ago and I found comments from 22 seconds ago
the most saddest thing about it is that this video has been posted 2 years ago and gta online is still the same way it was 2 years ago, its sad to see that this game who originated from a wholesome game with wholesome people with your only problem being someone succesfuly stealing a jet in the mili base, but now it turned into a toxiciticy school for players and where you have to worry about how not to get killed by a kid in an avenger dropping 69 rockets on your ass for no reason.
No it isn't, cayo perico heist can earn you 1.5 mill every 45 min
@@raspberry8301 an easier way to grind doesn’t justify the grind.
@@CodexQuinn yes it does because you can just grind like 2-3 times the cayo perico heist and literally buy anything you want now
@@raspberry8301 a heist with good rewards doesnt do anything about the toxicity of the players.
@@raspberry8301 you can do the replay glitch and get $10 mil an hour
This video actually made me feel a little sick realizing how much time I have wasted in this game and how fruitless it is. This game has taken over my life for the past two weeks since I started playing it again after a long break, and it’s all been so I can keep slowly raising my character’s net worth.
I think I’m gonna delete GTA V
Don’t blame you bro always good to take breaks 💯
Dude I just got on 3 days ago and I feel the same way stressing over that game has no value in the real world, it is the closest thing to a virtual experience though
cries in 3200 wasted hours
Bro it's only a waste of time if you consider any game played during that time a waste. It's just a game, no better no worse than others in regards to a time waste or not.
not if you found efficient/smart way to earn money.
Cars when you buy them: 1.7M
Cars when you sell them for vehicle warehouse: 100k
Yea and super cars in real life are only like 100-300k at most
So why Fairplay the game if everything is unfair?
@@Patrickwd do you even know what is the defference between a game and real life?
@@yazdan7774 yea but I mean just about everything in this game is overpriced
you aren’t taking the car money tho you only get commission
“GTA should be a game, not a job.” Now THAT is a quote
BruhMoment It is a game, not a job. Only unhealthy obsession with the game breeds real life comparisons over a non-issue.
@@timkusan4370 no this is some mobile, clash of clans type grinding without the ability to put the controller down and do something else. I haven't touched gta in months but as soon as a money glitch appears ill hop on and do it. The issue is even glitching money in can still feel like a grind which is beyond pathetic.
r/gtaonline dislikes your quote
It’s funny bc u put some time in the game then u start making money
Unbeats YT nah you just gotta buy shark cards, it’s a waste of time to get money legit unless you do money gltiches
I know I'm incredibly late to this video but the algorithm led me here and I have a few words on this.
I was actually a new player in 2019. I got the game for my 18th birthday in March 2019, and when I hopped into online it was a nightmare. One of my very first experiences as a new player was being relentlessly harassed by a 12 year old boy on Mk II oppressor until his friend realized what was going on and made him chill out. Funnily enough, after that incident I became friends with that 12 year old boy and his crew and they were the ones that helped me gain some footing in the game. If it weren't for them, I may have entirely abandoned GTA online because there was absolutely nothing going for me as a brand new player. Everything good costs a ridiculous amount of money, jobs pay out in practically pennies, and I sure as hell couldn't afford to buy shark cards, so it was pretty much pointless to try. If I hadn't met more experienced players and had them take me under their wing (and run me through Bogdan repeatedly) I wouldn't have gotten anywhere at all. Now I have a nightclub, facility, bunker, avenger, terrorbyte, one of each kind of illicit business, my own office, a handful of nice vehicles, and a high end apartment, and yet I have NO incentive to engage with any of those things because the payout is so pathetic that it isn't worth the time I would have to invest in them and most of the missions related to those things require you to have other people to successfully complete them or put you in a situation where you're most likely to just get blown up by an oppressor and lose out on all your profits anyway. It's impossible to make any progress as a solo player on GTA online, and even with friends to help, it's still incredibly difficult and time consuming. I hate that everything I have in the game is directly the result of repeating the same heist over and over until I could recite the cutscenes in my sleep because it's the only efficient way to make enough money to buy anything worthwhile.
Don't get me wrong, I had a lot of fun playing GTA online when I was still active, but only because of the people I met and made friendships with, not because the game itself was fun. GTA online is an incredibly tedious and frustrating experience and I really wish it wasn't. I've been a fan of Rockstar and the GTA series since I was just a child and seeing a series I grew up loving become so corrupted by corporate greed is just really depressing and makes me worry about the future of the series
One of the biggest problems with the heists is the mission design. Mostly, the organisation missions are far more fun because even when they reuse heist locations, they let you hit the objectives more free form, taking any approach that technically fulfils the objective. Steal a tank? You can jump in it and try to drive away, or you could have a friend do that while you get a cargobob copter and hook the tank to fly it to the objective while they use the turret on the AI. That's the kind of freedom GTAO should be all about, but the heists will give you harsh game overs for looking at an NPC the wrong way, or even just not using the exact road they scripted for you to drive on. Not to mention that at launch, whenever you hit one of these many failstates, the A button, which is usually repsawn in other modes, was for some reason "disband group" in heists only. Meaning if any 1 player in the group hit A out of muscle memory when they died, all 4 players would be kicked from the group and returned to the lobby. So more than half the time I ever spent playing heists, was just trying to actually get the missions to start.
Gta iv: a little bag of diamonds= 2M
GTA V: robs a fcking casino full of diamonds: 2.9m
Rip economy
lmao
Infaltion belike:
Anti - The professional deflation*
GTAV Online: Can't make money easily but it's a thief game in which it supposed to be easier than irl. Lmao
bruh are you serious im about to do the diamond casino heist I bought an arcade and cars and weapons just to get 2 mil
Remember when you could walk outside without getting shot by a flying bike
Nope lol
Imagine that the community was much less toxic, r* would not add vehicles for 8 year olds
@@pentaboss1351 it helps grind mc businesses solo. It is a useful tool
Ace G420 yes but when people shoot rockets for no reason yk
@@Caleb-ri5uy it's part of the game🤷🏽♂️ I kill them back and go about my business
> A cheater problem, long loading times, broken economy, OP greifing tools
*Rockstar* "I sleep"
>Money glitch to make the grind a little less tedious
*Rockstar* "Execute order 66"
The problem is, people can't cheat right, most people cheat nowadays, because earning money is boring ASF
true
Damn man, remember when the biggest achievement in the game was stealing a jet from the military base?
to me it was when you had that one apartment looking over everything and the adder
Those were the days
@@RubyXIII The apartments you are talking about are the Eclipse towers and they are still pretty popular. As for the Adder, well, that really is a history.
Remember when you could glitch the game and get a tank as your personal vehicle?
@@RubyXIII frrrrr
A game that already made $6 billion dollars shouldn’t have to try and squeeze money out of you
hbtlijose money rules world
Soda King he literally said they made that just in sales... they made an extra $500,000,000 from the in game purchases.
@Soda King that was not a wooosh moment.
Soda King how was that ‘woosh’? Did you make a joke? Because I don’t see one 🤷🏻♀️
Soda King your not funny
I was a day one player. I remember grinding so hard to buy the Casco for 640k. It took hours of Ticket to Elysium lol the Adder at $1m seemed impossible and insane. 2.2m from the warehouse drops was like manna from heaven. I can't imagine what new players in 2022 are experiencing. To not have followed the inflation along the way would be devastating. Everything you've said is sad and true. I wish it were different.
U should’ve bought the kosakta with that 2.2 mil if u didn’t cause u can make like 1.4 mill + in like 30 to 40 ish minutes
@@hendrixxrxks the kosatka didn't exist when I played. I stopped shortly after the Diamond Casino update.
@@newtonfamily2274 kk
I started playing and the formula is to buy a tosatka.
After buying a tosatka I always had more than 2m in the account
@@Heituuurrrrr how does that even work? main heists can only be done once and the diamond casino heist can only be done once so how do you make so much money from a submarine that cant do anything except shoot people?
A friend of mine once gave me a lift in his chopper. When I got to the destination I jumped out. Right when I wanted to pull my parachute I got called by Moris mutual ensurance and I couldn’t use it and fell to my death. LOL
I quit playing GTA Online because it started to feel like a fulltime job
I stopped playing it when I realize the true grind. I got the game on the epic games store and it was really fun in the beginning but just the small things kept adding on more and more.
- LOADING SCREENS
- constantly being attacked
- If one person leaves in the middle of a heist, the heist automatically stops
- LOADING SCREENS
- Probably the worst servers I have ever been on
Not to mention this game is what 6, 7 years old??? there is NO excuse for this behavior
@@bobhotpocket1875 Oh god the loading screens nice name btw
bob hotpocket I also like to say that some games get completely redone in just a year meanwhile on gta there are still glitches in the game that are years old that could EASYILY be patched
@@SexWithHotPockets yea I quit too because that
Its so hard toget money in it but also so easy
i don't even blame people who start modding this game
I would never blame them.I would be more like "have fun bro.....pls dont kill me"
@@poke-champ4256 some modders are actually pretty cool
@@Grulaz Ikr? In 360 GTA V chances to run into a asshole modder is slim to none! I got 5mill and lvl 2000 without even asking!
Why mod when there is exploits and dupes to abuse? Jkjk, I mod on pc and exploit on xbox
@@Anonymous-bj8fd good
Nice vid. I stopped playing a few months ago.
Solo session everytime, more than 160 hours of grinding to get all businesses.
I earned more or less 11M in one day selling all my stocks supplies, doing Cayo as soon as it was available, doing the Dre missions and everything.
Trying to get as much money I can get with all I had from morning to night.
Legit, no mod or whatever crap. Result : I got ban.
The money I've earned this day was too much for R* as a solo player...
They don't give a shit about everything but money.
I know i watches the vídeo 2y late but fantastic one, you had strong issues, even stronger arguments to back your point of view on new updates, prices, pay to win aspects etc… Keep up the good work i really enjoyed watching
GTA Online is so immersive, they even added class inequality to the game!
This hit hard
Hahaha...ha...ha....ugh 🤣😂😅😭
That’s why I mod
I have every gun in the game. Two garages filled with cars and the most expensive yacht. Along with a couple million dollars in the bank. Never have I bought a shark card or spent any money besides buying the game. You just have to play the shit out of it. Made all my money playing ltms like Rockets v.s. insurgents etc...
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When you join a gta online lobby and already hear explosions
That's why I go invite only
It happens very often to me hahaha
It’d usually diluted by the fan off my PS4
@@tristanchaplin392 if your on console you should test nat type or join a free aim lobby
@@tristanchaplin392 Reasonable and I did that too. Even if the video is mostly really on point and good work, it does miss the most essential problem. The forced PvP system. Every business you want to run in the open world is locked to open lobbies.
It does not make any sense. Nearly All of the missions do include PvE enemies and a time-limit. They are hard enough for anyone before Level 100.
On top of that a lot, a hell lot of freeroam activitities are not triggered when you play alone. They also contain PvE enemies and time limits and are even without other players annoying you very tough to deal with as a new player.
I mean that is the main content in the open world and you cant enjoy the game without being constantly faced with toxic trolls.
The Video Contributor asked a very important Question: Is Rockstar to blame for the worst community I have ever seen in a video game?
Yes. It is no surprise that people are assholes. We all learned that already. And this is their fault. But Rockstar forces us to be assholes.
You get constantly motivated to kill an other player. You get messages and calls that you need to kill other players.
You get unbalanced high rewards for following their orders. It is way harder to start a mission, get to the location, do the activity and then being forced to use a vehicle to get the wares safe back to your storage.
This is the real problem about GTA Online. The Rest would be bearable if we would get PvE-Only Lobbies without gameplay restrictions.
I dont care about idiots and hackers if I dont have to play with them. I dont care if I need to grind to buy essential content or just cosmetics.
I dont care if you can buy all the content for real money if you are able to grind it.
But what I definitely agree with is the embarassing female character selection. Whats so wrong about long hair?
The problems with GTA V is:
.PvP is very_very unbalanced.
.Heist are a headache for solo players.
.Missions get repetitive very fast.
.Business are too boring and grind.
.The game itself incentive player toxicity.
I cashapped some random dude like 10 bucks I didn’t care if I got scammed and dude blessed me with 100 mil 😂 apparently 10 USD was a lot in his home country I guess… that’s what he told Me. Never got caught too. Now that’s a real heist. Everyone won in real life.
Why. Where is the fun in that?
@@sokowirowka2965you really think moving 3 crates for 5+ hours and waiting 1.5 days for the nightclub to fill up is fun?
@@sokowirowka2965 I had nothing so it I was able to buy cool stuff I could play with my friends 👍 so it was worth it for me from all good times with my friends. Looking forward to gta 6 soon
Rockstar after seeing this video:
**I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that**
Gibson Gold lol
Gibson Gold oh lol rockstar is over priced they should just face that they are never gonna patch glitches forever so just make buying money cheaper.
Rockstar liked this message *
Wanna hear a joke? Rockstar gives a fuck
Like they care with a 6.2 billion profit...
I literally can’t do anything with a million dollars.
That sounds ungrateful but it isn’t at the same time.
Yeah I did the treasure hunt ( if you know what that is ) and got 250,000 and I told my friends I think I’m going to buy a hangar and they proceeded to laugh at me because 8 times that much to get one
@@TheRascal767 I know right it’s crazy.
In GTA 5, 1,000,000 dollars feels like 1 dollar.
As a person who only just started to get off my feet with having 1 million in my pockets most of the time I often need 2 million go do what I want
Yeah cus 1 mil usually wont buy what u need, or u need like 2 mil to buy past a paywall to use the 1 mil item...
You said everything that I could about the Online feature, 3 years after this video was published and is STILL about the same as it was 3 years ago. Got completely tired of the horseshit that goes on with this game and just uninstalled it to save the hassle. Rockstar REALLY needs to get their shit together or they’re just gonna lose fans and a lot of them. Hopefully the 6th game is better.
3 years later and not only are they adding more expensive things they’re now lowering payouts for heists… makes me scared for gta 6 I can’t lie
Its a game that contradicts itself.
SP- mocks consumerism
MP- All about the money baby.
Radio station: "Listen to some advertisements to some products I dont want."
Your phone 2 secconds later: "Go to maze bank and buy a hangar"
It's like an additional level of messaging depicting the evils of late-stage capitalism that went straight over people's heads... or it's just blatant hypocrisy. ;)
Shizanketsuga - so blatant
@@RaiderOfTheLost lol
stolen
New Player: Loads in first time
Lester: "hey mann to start off just save up 1.5mil and we''ll be ready!
10 mins later
L: "have you got it yet? come on man, buy it already, let's go!
10 mins later
L: "let's go! i'm ready when you are!
come on its already been 1.73639 seconds where is your facility, arcade, office, bunker, hangar, multiple hangars, 15 yachts and 9 helicopters??!? such a noob
Come on where is your 2369 car
Honestly if you load up the game now there will be 20 million notifications popping up in the corners of the screen and you will get like 30 different phone calls telling you all the things you can do and demanding you buy this place and that service and this stuff, but did you know you could do this shit???!!
And its like that, for like 5+ minutes after you get out of any lobby or mission.
You can go to porn websites with no adblocker that have less popups than this fucking game
@@FlamingAtheist I stopped playing when they first came out with the bennies update as I was pissed off it didn't come to offline play, I've re downloaded the game just yesterday and holy sweet fuck I have no idea what this game even is anymore. Pop up ads demanding I buy something every 2 fucking minutes and shitty kids in rocket bikes ruining my day flat. I thought it would be fun to give it a go again but fuck that, how come I need to spend millions just to make like 100k per mission. I thought doing races and death matches was a bad enough grind back in the day, nevermind this shite that they peddle just to get us to spend actual money. I just want to kit out me fucking futo and sultan
@@bigbawsac7059 come join our crew if you want to have fun with friendly players, who don't use the depressing broomstick. If you are intrested comment back
3 years later and this is still relevant. I am only level 30 in gta online and its been disheartening to see that most vehicles/ content is out of my reach because of money issue
get a kosatka and the problems gone just one heist with some friends or solo and you have enough to invest into other buisnesses
It sucks
Gta online might be the only game where going to work in real life is easier
Me: driving around in a shitty car with 5k
Lester: BUY A FACILITY FOR 5 MIL!!!
I quit gta online like 5 years ago, tried logging in again after 5 years... Just when I thought the game could have changed, still a trashy game. I'm quiting again and going back to playing SAMP (san andreas multi-player) which is still way more fun than gta online, even though SAMP is like 15 years old. Sad when you think about it, specially since there's still a ton of people playing SAMP and roleplay servers.
Hiiii it’s Bryony!
Cayde WilliamsYT bro HES my bf get out of here
So true 😂
Edwin Cristobal wait until you get into a FiveM Roleplay server on gta v...
“Last time i checked, DLC wasn’t 6x the price of the base game.”
The Sims 4: Allow me to introduce myself
Microsoft Flight Sim X : “hey”
Every EA Game ever: howdy partner
Laughs in Witcher 3
DCS World: "SUP FUCKERS, ALL MY DLC IS $1140"
**Laughs in first version The Crew**
This video is 5 years old and still holds true and makes very good points that still correlate to today
Not really, especially regarding money and the timeline. Nowadays it’s very easy for people to earn money in the game if you have the right businesses and know how to manage them and even for beginners. The Cluckin’ Bell Farm Raid DLC came out recently which literally a level 1 player can start and get 500K. Plus with the next gen version of GTA Online players start out with $4 million and can choose what business they want to start off with to make money. Plus, the timeline described in the video is completely wrong as GTA Online doesn’t take place in 2013 anymore as in the Gunrunning DLC Agent 14 mentions that it’s 2017 so going off of that, GTA Online now takes place in the present. If that’s not enough evidence, Franklin returns in The Contract DLC in 2021 looking older plus being married and has kids which is completely different of how his life was after the end of story mode in 2013. Plus in the introduction cutscene of the Diamond Casino Heist DLC, Lester mentions he cleaned out the union depository.
Thats a Amazing presentation,I hope they fix the issues.
Glitching. Ironic how the only way to have fun in this criminal game is to go against the rules.
glitching is just the video game equivalent of stealing.
@@jeffmaine8759 the video game equivilant of stealing is called piracy
@@leahqt3.14 True, true.
@@jeffmaine8759 who really cares at this point the game isnt made to play legit if u spend all time playing by the book u would never be rich too much time
Jeff Maine pathetic we paid for a game and we can’t even experience it fully
Heists with randoms? Even god trembles at that thought
Finally did all the apartment heists took awhile with randoms lol
Especially with the fact that you literally wait over an hour to get a lobby in random matchmaking only to start it, get half way in, and then someone leaves right away.
I've done it before the Cayo perico hiest
Not that hard just kick the low levels
@@lukaspersson4051 true
dude they can be level 100 and they still assssss
Not everything takes place before the GTA 5 Campaign, the apartment heists takes place before the story mode, including the Series A heist.
But heists like the Doomsday and the Diamond Casino takes place long after the story mode, and yes, the Union Depository heist in GTA Online also takes place long after Story Mode, that's why Lester said the Union Depository has never been hit before.
I agree with the rest of your points but I just had to say something after watching that part
Now R* is removing vehicles and placing them on a paywall via GTA+. This video is still relevant, low-key predicted future.
Remember when grand theft auto was about gang wars and stuff, now it's shooting people on the flying bikes
Remember when story mode was the main focus of Gta? Yeah i remember that.
@@theplug4981 it makes me thing gta 6 won’t have the sp
@@Raj-wf6ln they were going to do dlc for gta v storymode but they scrapped it because they pushed gta online instead.
Who knows. Gta online may be a standalone thing in future.
GTA PvP is pretty fun, it’s not balanced by any means, but it can be enjoyable.
Yah it was boring
"The problem with GTA online"
Bruh. Everyone in GTA online is a problem.
*And everything
Cylent 100 like
But what can rockstar do remove rocket on the mk 11 yh get rid of most op weapons on vehicles ok then people will still be toxic with guns and running people over ok remove the guns and cars it no fun what can they do I'll admit shark cards are overpriced and yh there vehicles need to not be so op but that's all they need to do and idc if GTA timeline isn't right I could care less it don't matter some of his points are good and some are stupid and being extra
Oppressor Mk II is the problem or yes right the players, called griefers, hackers...
I mean I just go driving around mostly and doing stunt races
I reinstalled GTA V 2 days ago and I just uninstalled it. I'm not doing this again, I don't need a job that doesn't pay.
This is an insane video bro the editing is top notch and it’s actually very informational I’ve never looked at gta in this way keep up the greats videos bro
Remember when everone thought the rhino and zentorno were overpowered now we got flying cars and oppresors
Ah yes. I remember the mixture of hate, frustration and pure joy when a whole lobby was being demolished by a single rhino tank and everybody teamed up to take it down.
Of course back then you could lose a whole Weeks worth of grinding spending all your money on sticky bombs, and destroying the griefer tank would cost you a fine, and they got it back within 2 minutes flat...
There were options though. It could be avoided as the tank can't be everywhere at once. Stealing a jet at the mil base was a super effective counter provided one didn't crash or get shot down by NPCs. Could also passively resist. I personally enjoyed trying to get the jet and failing that, flaming car bomb suicides. Got 'em every time half the time.
I miss GTA online on PS3 😴
Remember when they thought machine guns on the JB700 was overpowered so they removed it for Online. Oh the irony.
I miss those good old days 🙁
@@imiinnerhalb4002 same 😴
"60 dollars got us the game, but 100 dollars get's us an helicopter? do you see where this goes wrong."
Rockstar: my god.. you are right. Raise the game price to 100 dollars as well!
The game was free on PC. Idk if it still is right now.
That's the best way to get your fans to pirate your game
@@Sherbud no, only for a few periods
@@Sherbud nah it was only for a day
@@saddamhussein2 They do that to make ppl play the online that will make them millions in return
I own a Bunker, Nightclub, and a Motorcycle Business after grinding contact missions and heists...But none of them give the player a stable income enough to retire or have money to enjoy the game to buy clothes or fun cars to play with without grinding the hell out of it and getting meager pay that some contact missions can pay better than the business you bought to generate that an income.
Storymode made a better system than online instead of needing to grind supplies and reputation, The only thing you had to do sit down and wait for the money to roll in and intervene with the occasional call missions of the employees you hired couldn't do or needed assistance with rather than do everything yourself in Online.
I played a lot in 2013/2014 and came back every once in a while. Back when the game came out, you'd have to watch your back when you were driving around, but most players just went about their business, the most you'd worry about it someone in an Adder driving by to sticky bomb you, or someone who took a jet from the military base. But it just got to the point where the moment I'd step out of my apartment I'd get blown up by someone in a flying bike or car. And it's sad to see how hard and time consuming it is to earn money and buy new vehicles, back when I played the only way that was even decently respectful of your time was to continuously grind Rooftop Rumble and Titan of A Job, even that felt like a grind but now it seems way worse. I've been curious to see how GTAO has changed since I stopped and wow, I don't think I'll be coming back :( Even though this video is a few years old, it seems the same today.
I came here to watch the problem with GTA Online.
Instead I got a Netflix Documentary!
fr fr
probably the most underratted and well edited rant video on gta online lol
Haha
Yeah honestly even the bigger TH-camrs with hundreds of thousands of views don't put out such quality video editing
666 likes
Yo I made it 1k
My favourite part is how you have to struggle for 30 minutes to create a sligthly good looking character that doesn't look like a deformed elephant's ass
atleast that thing's more good-looking than you, Lautaro
@@realCaveJohnson Stfu
@@realCaveJohnson stfu
@@realCaveJohnson stfu
Stfu
And this is why I exploited the Cayo Glitch. 2 mil every 12 minutes. It's a game about being a criminal after all...
Back in the day I used to like going online, though back then I used to have friends. Set up a private server and just have a bunch of people driving around hunting rare cars so the others can load up some cheap garage and sell them whenever they needed the money. Or using sticky bombs to blow open doors of money vans and get away. Or even chain missions together and work toward buying tank, buzzard, and armoured cars - no toxicity, no players nuking the field and no hackers. Good times. I’m sure nowadays there is more to do but back then I would have loved for them to do something with the stock market instead of it just being on campaign with vague obscure hints on how to invest and where to invest. I remember completing the game and needing money, but because solo campaign won’t let you replay heists and keep the money, you had to be creative and buy property but some of them where boring. It wasn’t like GTA: Vice City or IV where you do a bunch of stuff for your property and it generates money on its own, you had to destroy cars yourself for $15 reward per car for scrap yard, and get $50 per car towed from towing property. Vice city generated money AFK and IV gave you perks such as LJ’s discount weapons/Romans free taxi/paddies car bombs.
I jumped off the game when it was becoming a time sink, thankfully I never spent real money online.
2013: Ugh, these stupid Chrome Adders with Dollar wheels. This game is going crazy.
2019: I just got obliterated from orbit while taking my hoverbike for a spin.
Dam i can't believe i forgot about the dollar sign rims everyone used to use....takes me back
Tetragon 213 I hate that saints row shit tbh
Exactly
@@roguefulgore7967 I still have it on my adder, when I went to next gen I made sure I didnt touch it so I could see it compare with how the game turns out through the years
Man I was there when the Beach Update came and we were all excited about the new buggy being free...
It's crazy how DLC vehicles cost more than the whole game
You know I never thought about that until I read this that’s crazy to think
@NICKYROO yeah there probably has been
@UC0Xlo069ZFW8OilRUE7F1ZQ no one has spent half a million dollars on gta online bro.
@@raydenbartley may be he means in total
Such a well done professional video. Great work
“The problem with gta online” has now become “The problem IS gta online”
plays story mode and gets 40 million in one heist
plays 3 heist in online with 4 people and only makes a million after like 10 hours.
+50 fails due to bad players ...
Nah it's literally sm fun u just need friends
@@grimuk3817 no, you just have no friends.
@@ProdM4r It would be nice that on the odd occasion, u kids could say something that hasn't been done to death. An entire generation that all say the exact same things. Id laugh, but I stopped laughing long ago. Now I just pity u all...
For Feltz you just get you and a friend to buy a arcade and both grind diamond casino prep at the same time so you can do 2 at once
“earning $1.1 million per hour should be possible”
man would he love Cayo Perico
But it is possible. Don’t y’all know about the heist quitting glitch? Just do the bogdan problem give the non host 1mil leave at the end and thats easy one million im 10 minutes
@@itzwoody1649 you shouldn’t have to do a glitch to play a game
@@itzwoody1649 casino heist big con artwork hard mode is better 1.6 mil in the same time
@@haroldsmith4883 bogdan heist is so easy tho. Its 10min max and impossible to fail
@@haroldsmith4883 but yea the glitch works with every heist
Amazing attention to detail? Tell that to the factory with big cockroaches, floating lights and broken ladders; Or how about the sheer amount of bugs, glitches, clips and OOB's that are found almost every other day? Or the stupid AI not managing to wrap it's head around simple concepts like driving, turning, living, dodging, and speaking.
ah i remember when i was 15 and got my first couple checks coming in at my first job, spent $200 on shark cards, upgraded to the maze bank office, and bought a hydra, suddenly was left with only 800k and was super defeated.
now i’m 20 and regret spending a dollar on the game after cayo came out, and i grinded out over 100mil
They added the flying bike is to make griefers disturb grinders forcing them to buy shark cards
From out a business perspective thats actually impressively smart... the triple A gaming industry comes up with shit not imaginable...
he's right.
Yep. What's sad is anyone with an email address can Google unknowncheats, make an account, and then download easy to use mods like kiddington. Not only is this crashing servers like crazy, but it gives greifers more tools to work with. They won't fix shit until the Ps5 release, and I hope that re-launch is fouled by modders within it's debut week.
@@TheSombersound youre right... but i can see people playing gta online considering that option way before thinkin of shark cards or even grinding...
Honestly, you can’t blame people for modding and hacking when the alternative is spending hundreds of dollars on micro transactions
Henry Rothert
Exactly! Someone on a forum even said it wasn’t “in the spirit of the game”..
The entire game’s message is that society is trying to milk you and dumb you down, but you can screw them by robbing a bank, have the things they don’t want you to have and feel alive.
If Rockstar starts acting like the game’s society, you can’t blame players for acting like the game characters...
I found a menu, gave myself every aircraft and car I wanted, was able to buy myself a bunker, and help newer players get some starting cash. I eventually got caught and suspended, but oh well. As Misterkami mentioned, the 250 or so hours I spent playing legit before using the menu was definitely not "in the spirit of the game". My progress has been reset, and I don't think I'm ever gonna play again. I suppose another filthy modder has been removed from Rockstar's servers and I realize that many will applaud this, but I can't help but consistently feel as if I was in the right for my actions.
@@jameskang3579 go to Red Dead Redemption 2 Online they dont give a shit about modders there they're too busy milking GTA Online for every single atom
they are getting so bored they resort to locking me in a cage and forcing money up my ass
Rockstar takes the modded money on console just remember that.
I was expecting to see more details about the loading times and times to do anything at all, like changing through different jobs and start jobs with friends. Attempting to join a friends session contantly gives an error or jobs are started without the chance of inviting friends. When jobs are started without your friends, then you have to leave that job, you get more session errors leaving that job, go get to the story mode, go back online, try to join a friends session and hope it doesn't give an error again, so that you can TRY to join any job with a friend again. Another thing is the time to request any vehicle or an aircraft, it just spawns on a far away road and you have to run to get there, and this is if it wasn't previously exploded by rando because you have to call the insurance first
Excellent video pacing and music.
Congrats!
As one developer once said in a meeting; "Playing GTA Online is like having to write your favorite song in order to listen to it."
JT Michaelson more like u gotta fínese someone’s song to even make it in gta everyone got the best vehículos already
while being shot at by 9 year olds with flying motorcycles
@@victorcabrera4568 are you a rookie? Just test nat type and you won’t have to deal with grievers. That’s on Xbox one idk about ps
@@YunginYnEnt I dont have to deal with griefers cuz I have everything in the game, descent snipping skills and I love using the orbital cannon
@@victorcabrera4568 so you're an ***** to every other player right?
The most annoying thing is that when I started playing gta, the new dlc cars were free in story mode. Now, a 90s Honda Civic is a million dollars.
It's fuckig ridiculous
Imagine 1000$ golf 1 costing 1,5M$ in gta online
I don’t complain anymore since cayo perico and wheel spin glitch
Right? I don’t know why they can’t make all online DLC available in story mode, have more fun in story mode than online, I should be able to get the bomber in story mode, what am I gonna do? Spawn camp npc’s?
Yea, and not saying its a bad price, but the miata (or rx7 im not sure) is like 1.3M
Online games have become a second life, a second job. Our minds can be tempted for that specific ohject, hours and days after, only to get deeply disappointed or depressed. Because you realized how pointless that object is and how much time you spent on it. Time that can be used to improve your own personal experience and others, not a stupid virtual one that is meaningless on the real one.
And if you're a person who has a stable job and everything, it maybe the game for you. Now that l think about it The "correct" way for people to enjoy such types of games is for the Elite or the Rich
Goes to show you how pointless this is
And if you think the game is fun, this or any other game, it is sadly a mistake.
l have yet to see game have actual meaningful interactions with one another, something more personal that we also do in life. This can be nitpicky but l am sure games can improve on this by making interactions more personal, or more human for that matter. Maybe more intimate can be the word but that can be misinterpreted.
The point is, don't let them fool you on spending money and time.
l am scared for the people that got addicted to these types of games and for League of legends ones, the ones that don't care about fun l mean
y'all ain't ever catching me spending a single dollar on a car in a game 😂😂😂😂
Rockstar takes the "i" out of "debit"
XD
NO! Tom Nook takes the "i" out of "debit"
Thats EA
They aready are, eventually if they keep this up sales will rapidly start going down and they will spend money to push new dlc's to get people buying them and shark cards again but there will be a point when people stop buying them and rockstar will have to think about making a new GTA game or they will be fucked as a company
@@aceofnades8389 the matrix online people play in real life world
2014 with 2 millions: you could buy the 2 most expensive cars of the game a and the best apartment in the game
2020 with 2 millions: you are poor
Not true at all the adder and z type were both a million
cj stibitz
Well, Single player Z Type is $10,000,000.
Is there a anything in Online that costs that much?
A Yacht maybe?
Online Adder is $1,000,000.
Online Zentorno is $725,000.
Both of those combined couldn’t match that price tag even if the numbers were doubled.
@@sirapple589 Luxor Deluxe - $10 million price tag
Oppressor MK2: 4m... to store Oppressor: 1.5m terrorbyte... to store terrorbyte: 1 - 3 million nightclub: 6.5 - 8.5million for 1 item.
and that's to get the fastest vehicle in the game.
Open Roads (F1 racing cars) are 4 mil each, the avenger is about 2 mill, but you also need a facility to use it.
their pricing is very disgustingly grindy and it's clear they made it like this specifically to sell you shark cards.
they're using mobile gachapon game tactics to make you want to spend more money. it's disgusting.
thank god i got money drops all the time so i don't waste my time in this game lol
Winter
I’m not defending Rockstar’s dogshit pricing.
I was adding onto the comment before me.
GTA Online sucks dogshit through a straw.
@@winter2060 look rockstar is screwed up don't get me wrong. I had everything in the game. 3 high end apartments with 30 fully customized vehicles which was the max. 42 Pegasus vehicles including gold luxor and swift. With 50 million in my account on top of that. And I was level 560 to boot. Rockstar took that all away because i didn't get an Xbox one until the Xbox one x came out. I got it day one. I was fresh out of high school just started working so I couldn't buy an Xbox one in time to transfer my character. I didn't do anything about it for over two years after getting my Xbox one x because rockstar canceled their phone and email support you can no longer reach them by those methods. I was totally unaware you could contact them on the rockstar support. When I found out I could contact them 2 years later I had reached level 134 in GTA online and had done a ton of grinding. But basically quit because grinding in a game I already grinded in for years and already owned everything in previously was killing me. But upon contacting rockstar they gave me 10 of my 50 million dollars back. Gave me my old rank back. Nothing else vehicles or property. Or stats. I'm not sure why they didn't add my next gen level 134 to my old gen 560. I should have been rank 697. Instead I was 560. I got screwed worse than anyone. I played 111 days I broke out the 360 recently to check before contacting rockstar so I could show them how much of my time they wasted. They told me they cannot help me anymore than they have. But. I had already grinded pretty far in next gen buying a CEO office and vehicle warehouse and bunker and hanger. Now I bought the clubhouse the meth coke cash businesses and the nightclub. If you afk with your nightclub it's not bad at all. I have 53 million after 40 days of doing this. And I don't have to spend all day grinding. I can leave my house do whatever I want I don't have to have no life. And I can still make $880,000 a day from my nightclub. I may get banned who knows but it's working out so far. I could afford practically anything in the game now if I wanted. But I really only bought 2 things. A hydra. And the Krieger cause I think it's the best car in the game. The hydra is still easily the best attack vehicle in the game. If you are a good pilot you can still own the lobby with it. And though the Krieger maybe slightly slower than vehicles like the 811 and furia. It has extremely higher acceleration and way better handling and smokes either one of those cars if you are getting into car chases. That's all you need. Enough money to buy sticky bombs. A Krieger. A hydra. And about 50 million in your bank account as a comfort zone. Hopefully in the future they will add another business like the nightclub where you can profit while afk and then I will make about 2 mil per day even though I don't really do anything
As long as you have a casino penthouse and a poker table in the penthouse. You can literally gamble and by taking advantage of the save mechanic(so its not glitching or cheating) you can make 10mil plus a day without losing a dime. Been doing it since the launch of the casino and ive banked well close to 50 mil since then doing it off and on and im not banned. Its well worth the money to get started that will earn you unlimited money and all it takes is an initial start up cost and time.
Thanks mbro👍🏽
I don't know if it's your voice or the amazing editing but I always find myself coming back every 3 or 4 months to watch your videos
Story Mode: Heists and incredible gunfights! Exciting missions and interesting characters! Fast cars, money, and all the other indulgences you can think of!
GTA Online: Paying bills, getting harassed by people to buy things, constantly getting blown up and shot to fuck by NPCs with aim so good they could hit an apple at LSIA from the top of Mt. Chiliad, MK2 Griefers everywhere.
Yup I’m so done with this game but I still play it, an unhealthy addiction. Kill me.
@@DiligentX same lmao
And it’s the same with red dead 2 great storyline horrible online system
I think playing GTA online on Xbox one is much better than playin' on PC or PS4 cause I barely find any griefer, MK2, or toxic players in Xbox
Instead, People in GTA online on Xbox are friendly :)
@@barryxallxn5892 red dead made me sad today and might have finally given me reason to quit
Problems with gta online: “The game you are trying to join no longer exists” , “Connection was lost to GTA Online” and all the 20 minute loading screens inbetween
Or when you try to join an active mission but by the time you load into it, the mission has already started.
and when flying bikes and cars kill you while you are trying to have fun
Get a SSD
" Save failed "
@@joshuapearce3639 save failed, save failed, save failed... c'mon I wanna log out...
@6:25 you've got excellent taste - hell of a film, hell of a soundtrack 👌
Man, the editing is on point!
You the real Yan or the other Yan? /s
@@kevinmahoque5608 Lool
Yan is that really you?
Tbh i think most lf the editing was pointless
@@AverageGuy074 yeah it was kind of distracting too. Defenitely skillful but ultimately pointless
Console players: *spends days trying to get a few million*
PC players: *walks into lobby, map is being nuked repeatedly, players teleporting, and money bags following players everywhere*
I can say the pc part is not true. My lobbies are filled with friendly players almost all the time.
Tapsu10 Yes people Who give me free cash are friendly
Yeah PC players go through hard times since it’s easier to download mods since it’s the same surface in which both apps are in
@@blasmunoz1341 i would say it is not that hard times. My friend started playing last week so we have been doing casinoheist like 4 times and we have not been killed even once. I don't know if console has more toxic players though.
Moders on pc are typically friendly at least the ones I've met help me out whit money or are just typically nice
You have some good taste in music. I recognize most of the songs you used in this vid, good work
If you do heists with friends (especially the Cayo perico heist) it is so easy to get large amounts of money, if you want to do the replay glitch as well you could be getting 1 million every 10-15 minutes
My friends all hate the replay glitch ever since the cooldown for the cayo heist came out because they’re rockstar fanboys lmao
Just imagine spending hundreds of dollars on the character, just for rockstar to wipe all of your data.
Sad but true
That's kinda like old gen if you didn't do console swap
They only do that for people that do glitches so I don’t see ur point.
@@thickboi4304 he means after the game servers shut down most likely
One day, all those people who spent hundreds or thousands of dollars in this game will wake up in the morning, open their game client and be notified that GTA Online servers are no longer accessible.
Wonder how they will feel in that moment.
The "theft" is not done by the player but by the company itself
oof
Thieving a Grand and giving you virtual Autos
Grand Theft with Automobiles
XD
-- Quel Tipo Sul Tubo
Yo this is the reason I stopped playing in 2017, I’m sendinn this video to all of my friends because you explained everything I felt when I decided to stop playing this damn smh
To be fair loading screen is something rockstar can't do much about. On my expensive PC it usually loads in 30-40 secs which is fast compared to other games
Imagine coming home from your job tired to play a game to where you need to be working to get the things you want in the game
xDD
This ones good but lemme do a lower tier
Imagine coming back from work tired and just wanna have fun in a game then some kid spams you with rockets and calls u trash
Welp you either buy sharks cards to have fun or don’t play it at all.
@@plutos4ever147 that's not a answer you FUCKING asshole
Raj Singh you mad
When I looked at the cost of shark cards I immediately decided I wouldn't purchase them, ever.
Same
That’s great, it’s more satisfying to grind money through the game and more rewarding once you muster up the money to buy what you want
@@caseypotrebic i agree ,it just becomes a bit banal to perpetually grind except with friends ,its fun with friends
The only thing cheap and good for starters is the criminal enterprise pack for 10 dollars
@Political Reactor bro its 100 bucks for only 8mil in-game currency,you know how little that can get you and how easily you can burn through that amount of money,it's exploitation at it's highest degree ,worse than EA ,worse than Gameloft mobile games
You're absolutely right especially at the in-game prices. I just hacked the game and got me 300 million and bought everything and still wanted my refund. Ended up trolling and hacking because of this until i got banned and i felt such a relief. I am not going to give rockstar more money when i bought their game 3 times!
The GTA timeline issue is very simple but confuse a lot of people. At the very start of gta online it's set about 6 months before the gta story mode. Each new major update pushed the time forward a bit and eventually it jumped past the events of GTA V. Most of the futureistc, high tech, and military weaponry and vehicles aren't in GTA V because they don't exist yet by the end of the GTA V story. Today the newest DLC takes place about 10 years(give or take a few) after the events of the GTAV story. The world of GTA online has changed noticeably(but not necciarily a lot) from V nowadays. There are new buildboards, the casino got finished, and some of the GTA V characters, like Jimmy or Lester, are noticeably at least a little older. The unfinished buildings do bother me a lot though.
I think it’s mostly the fact that you can literally bomb a city in a military grade jet without law enforcement saying anything, but when killing an homeless dude in a stealthy way in a corner without anybody else you get 2 stars lol
Thats so true lmao
*Steals exactly the same vehicle as last time but this time it's a simeon vehicle*
@@christianmcclellan7491 I hate when you steal a peds vehicle and all the sudden you get 2 stars for being a Simeon car. Pays like 10k anyway lol, crap pay.
The point of failure for any game: A $500,000 Honda Civic.
I don't even care about cars, they are too expensive. Just use free cars like the original GTA
whoa, thats a hefty price fot a lawnmower
@@kuzey2513 racing mower*
wait... isn't it $900k - $1.2m?
hello there good guy! Last time I looked it was half a million
AMEN!!! Perfectly laid out. Rockstar should consider this the best feedback available - ironically, for free
I started playing GTA V online on my PS3 after I finished my main story offline. Once I got on there, I realized it was a completely different atmosphere. At the time, the worst thing that you had to fear was a laser jet or and insurgent chasing you down.
"He's having fun! Shut that server off!"
"That was a close one."
Imagine someone IRL robbing a shop to buy shark cards to buy everything they want in GTA Online
The funny thing is that it is 100% that someone actually did this (or atleast tried to)
@@user-cb1nd7ym7q no fotage, just just a strong prediction
Of course its happened, people where being mugged for the game the day it came out
In my youth, I considered this idea thoroughly
Yeah but unfortunately that's not how it works, they get activated at the register.
I don’t feel like the silent characters is a bad thing. Lester and others make jokes about it too. I think it’s one of the good things
Yeah and when you think about it, how could you include dialogue in cutscenes that are available for everyone with *your own* custom character.
And they somehow managed to make them completely communicate in all cutscenes with only like nodding and hand gestures
They added voices in saints row
"While they're building the foundations of GTA 6." If only that were the case, but looks like we're just getting more GTA V
They could've done it like rdr2 where they at least make noises based on their gender. Its unrealistic that lester hires multiple mute people.
2023 and nothing has changed. Good work rockstards.
I think online is great, but like you mentioned all the play to win stuff does make it feel restrictive if you wanna grind to earn new vehicles or weapons.
Gta 5: "is a 17+ game"
Also Gta 5: "89% of players are 6-10 year olds"
Is That Sad That I'm 11
Wtf
MaggieOnline who are you talking too
HaaaAa 69th like
@@poonoodleramen3055 nice