So it works like this: 100% of people see your work and support you. 30% of them will start to lose interest so they would leave or hate. 40% will stay a fan but be less profitable for you. The other 30% will be fanboying. Rockstar games is a famous company so if we go back to that 100% people, THEY ARE A LOT. So the 70% who leave the supporting side, will not make the 30% small. Those fanboys are still a lot of people.
Take 2 needs to be investigated if they're willingly allowing their PC users to be targeted like that. The fact that they require their launcher and DRM to play the game regardless of if you're playing multiplayer, whose security is so bad that people can literally stalk and DDOS you just by knowing your SOCIAL CLUB ID is so fucking sketchy.
@@lenol0315 The Take Two interactive ltd and the Clinton foundation along with the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation have partnered to help DDOSers gain information for new victims. Along with the nation of Israel (formerly Palestine), these companies will help keep those who expose the truth, silent.
@@spectroelectro3772 Their entire online ecosystem is unsecure. People using mod menus online can actually see YOUR IP ADDRESS thanks to GTA 5's Peer-to-Peer nature. And once they have it, they kick you out of servers, follow you around and harass you in-game, and even fuck around with you while playing single-player. I'm not even joking when I say it's actually safer to pirate the game if you want to play single-player only.
@@hi-kt3qr It doesn't mean that this is a bad thing. There are a lot of passionated people in the industry seeing they goal becomeing part of Rockstar Games for they career and are proud of it. Have fresh energy. I would join them to see whats going on and trying to safe them if i would have the control over it.
You know what the problem is? It's that we still think this is the "old rockstar", but since the game released almost every single person who worked on and cared about the game has left. It's just an IP that a corporation has taken over now and it's never coming back...
@@awii.neocities they left because what rockstar was turning to, Dan never wanted it to be like that. He's a guy who likes to make games, rockstar games always had that amazing games because of him and a lot of other good people that wanted to do a good work (like Leslie for example), and since rockstar wasn't doing shit, after the rdr2 release he left the company with a bunch of other people remaining only Sam, the main reason why rockstar is a complete garbage nowadays.
@@dbz287 Dan Houser Terry Donovan Jamie King Gary Forman Leslie Benzies Lazlow Jones The guy in charge of Rockstar San Diego And many other higher ups and lower downs
@@AnekoF90 Sam houser and the Humphrey guy are the ones who remain. Hopefully they will compensate. Also, I’m guessing Dan had already written gta vi before he left. Hopefully they use what he made
As a Canadian I can tell you that when you purchase shark cards in game from Rockstar they cost 133 CAD but on the PlayStation store they’re 100 CAD. Nice vid
I feel Rockstar officially sealed the deal of their downfall when Dan Houser left. He saw where his company was going and didn't want any part of it. When the lead writer for most of their games leaves, it's a bad omen. The greed ruined Rockstar. It's sad to see.
To be fair, Houser and co weren't going to magically make the game better. Especially given House and Laslow are writers (and not even a good one on GTA games) and not a programmer. If GTA6 is going to suffer from its development issues, it would have suffered even if all the original heads were there since the bulk of the work is done by the regular devs working on the game. Hell, given what we know about how Houser and Benzlies operated, it might actually be better that they're gone since their replacements might stop constantly rebooting everything. Quote: "This has been a common occurrence in the last years of development on a Rockstar game. Dan and Sam Houser, the co-founders of Rockstar and creative leads on Red Dead Redemption 2, are renowned for rebooting, overhauling, and discarding large chunks of their games. Through eight years of development on Red Dead Redemption 2, the Housers and other directors have made a number of major changes to the story, the core gameplay mechanics, and the game’s overall presentation. " Houser and Co were notorious for rebooting large chunks of their games. Their approach was one of the issues with Rockstar.
@@FraserSouris Dan Houser was a fine writer in terms of dialogue, and the stories he wrote for some of the games were pretty fun and entertaining to play through
@@earlysteven123 That's somewhat my point. Houser is just that, a fine writer at best. What he does isn't amazing and could be replaced by any decent Hollywood writer.
As a wise man once said "Say what you will about billionaires, but the billionaires of today have ZERO drip, how you gon' have billions of dollars and still dress like a Redditor."
I love the fact that you managed to keep coming up with new words that start with D to describe the Trilogy instead of calling it "Definitive". The dedication and creatively is real here
I got burnt out on GTA V when I was still a teenager living at home and in my freshman year of community college. I’m now 27, married, have a toddler, and have been out of college for half a decade.
hah! i was maybe 9 or 8 when i convinced my mom to get me gta 5 on the 360. give it a month or two and i'll almost have become a senior in high school before i get to see *any* gta 6 gameplay. thank god i got tired of GTAO in 2016 and started playing fivem whenever i got bored
Gtav was released in 2013, you were in your 19-20s i think. How come is that teenager years, lol? Nvm, im just struck how fast time flys by. Im myself 27 too.
I can’t wait for another company to come along and make something similar to a rockstar game and then make jokes in their games against rockstar like rockstar did against other open World Series in the 2000s
My first time playing GTA online when it launched on 360 was "You're telling me I can't steal a banshee to own.... in Grand Theft Auto... WTF" and to this day you still can't steal a banshee and put in your garbage I mean garage.
Yep, that never sat right. I preferred the GTA 4 online experience, a few solid game modes, freeplay in particular was a lot of fun. GTAO is like GTA by committee.
@@Grandmastergav86 I still play GTA4 from time to time. It was so much fun and simpler back then. This was before rockstar started ripping off their own fan bases.
one thing i think you should cover is how r* really tries to do damage control. let me show you how: when rockstar released the ps5 gta5 trailer in 2020, they were met with huge backlash (rightfully so). but then once they announced a new dlc for gtao (los santos summer special), everyone lost their minds since they confirmed they are working on a new location. then, fast forward more years and they released another trailer for e&e that showed how little it improved. but once they announced the making of a original remaster series, everyone again was hyped to be able to replay their favorite games from their childhood. they used this as an opportunity to also cover up the fact that they were taking down mods that made their game look worse than dedicated fans who work for free to improve their legacy. then, once again when they proved they are incapable of anything and the community saw how bad the trilogy remaster was, they announced the contract dlc with franklin and everyone was pro-rockstar again. meanwhile, the red dead community had just been given a will-smith smack to the face when december of 2021 was the first december where they didnt get an update but instead, lame event weeks and r* acting like they still care about red dead online. people on twitter spammed #savereddeadonline and r* was surely panicking on the backlash they are getting. they had another way to get people back on their side: write 2 paragraphs confirming the development of gta6 but it was essentially blatant lies (to me at least). people were so excited because r* had essentially given what seemed to be a full plate of food to a group of starving people when in reality, they had only given bread crumbs. and when e&e was another fiasco, they thought of another way to save their reputation: talk about how they are rebalancing gtao when they really arent going to. its the same cycle over and over again. this is all in my perspective at least... as they had just released gta+, they must think of another way to cover that up. but how many more lies can they pull out of their ass?
@@idontknow5062 This time, it's just a lucky coincidence for Rockstar, I'm sure of it. I hope Remedy won't get dragged through the mud if the Max Payne remakes were deemed successful.
@@genmeriphoton7655 i dont know, it all seems so perfectly put together for them to not receive too much hate that it almost seems impossible for it all to just come together in r*'s favor...
Last time I checked a Grand theft Auto game didn't have a fucking subscription service for monthly shitty rewards like 500k$, 3x RP and some shitty liveries. I mean I don't even intend to join on some consumer boycott. I genuinely try to avoid them because it feels extremely wrong to support this kind of behavior
Rockstar Games' negligence and laziness in the past recent years makes me believe that GTA VI will be just as poorly managed [if not worse] than the state GTA V is in now. We've lost Dan Houser, Leslie Benzies and Lazlow Jones whom are the heart and soul of Rockstar Games, and without the heart and soul, the body cannot operate. Instead we're left with a husk; a shell of their former glory, like having a Ferrari with an empty interior and no engine, Rockstar has become the very thing they've mocked for decades ---- and for what? They got caught up in the money, the fame and the power. I've been a fan of Rockstar since 2002, and Red Dead 2 was sadly their last good game and one of their best, but I think I'm done with them. ✌🏾
Same, rdr2 was and will be my last purchase from R* unless they pull their heads out of their asses and start to actually communicate/ listen to their community but we all know pigs will fly and hell will freeze long before that happens
@@presidentkiller ever heard of Phil Hooker? Leading Director of programming and technology in rockstar... Well him and his team is responsible for the little details, insane graphics, random encounters etc, all the things that make fans fall in love with a rockstar game... His still in the company, thats why i think gta vi will be bigger and better... But as for the story part and the radio stations, it will most likely be extremely poor... But i never did care about a gta game because of story, its the openworld free roam aspect i fell in love with, so leslie, dan and lazlow leaving doesnt affect me at all..
@@rayquaza1245 dumbass, I’m saying show the investors what they’re investing so they could potentially stop giving rockstar funding, you fucking dotard
So let's see here: Greed, laziness, bootlickers, hover bikes, Shark cards, ego, and negligence. Got a question related to parts 2, 3, and 4: Do they also have a musical number?
Rockstar is that one company you make in Software Inc. that earns hundreds of millions of dollars and you kinda stop trying to make good products since you don't really have to
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Rockstar Games lived too long and here we are... Great video as always!
An important thing left out is the glitches, they quickly remove the fun ones but never take out the game breaking glitches, Rockstar is anti-fun now and days which is a bummer because launch glitches along with other funny glitches is what made this game fun when looking for something to due other then grind, combat someone or race.
fr. the loading screen bugs and the disconnection bugs are the ones ive been having for a long time and they never fix it, they can add random ass dune buggies to the game but can't fix a simple bug
32:11 that’s when I gave in and bought the 3.5 mil shark card. After spending most of my free time grinding and selling crates, I finally bought myself a MKII. After that I found out that I need a Terrorbyte to even put rockets on it, and in order to buy a Terrorbyte you need a nightclub. I feel ashamed to this day…
Nah at this point we just need them to go away. They're fucked by corporate interests. Let some other small studio full of passionate people make the next big open world crime game. Rockstar doesn't even deserve it at this point.
Let them die. Let them all die out. All those corporations, all those franchises are taken over by greed. All of them commited shitty, greedy and shameless business practices at some point in some form and in a way that shouldn't even be ethically acceptable. Like we are talking genuinely ripping your customers off, selling incomplete and broken games, promoting gambling to children, selling a solution for a problem you created solely to sell said solution, locking content that should've been part of the base game behind a paywall... The list goes on. And since there's no law that punishes this behavior and large customerships always contain gullible and irresponsible people who will support this behavior there's no end to this in sight. There's practically two ways to deal with it 1) ignore them, and either go to the few remaining decent gaming studios, play older titles with no options for monetary transactions or find a new hobby Or 2) be a pirate. Since those corporations are ripping people off 24/7 noone will notice as long as you only do it for your own private purposes
@@zwenkwiel816 exactly rockstar doesn't work anymore now it's just a big ceo company that is only interested in money (like bethesda or EA) now what we need are new companies with new and passionate people who want to make video games and who are not corrupted by corporate interests to generate money
I'm extremely up to date with gaming news and have never once in my life heard of the GTA Online IP address security flaw. That's bloody wild that this is a thing. How are people not more upset?
I legit stopped playing with friends when fucking bots would come in, then start spamming chat with IPs that have player IDs. Also, made me an ingame xenophobe towards asian players because: 1- we don't get unicode in the western version of GTA so I couldn't see if it was just text or special characters being used in the messages that could have some malicious exploit, cause all that showed up were hollow squares. 2- said messages were being posted at inhumane speeds, screaming "I'm a bot" red flags. Basically the second I'd start seeing that I'd yank my ethernet cable. Seriously, fuck Rockstar, I'm modding Online's content into 5, where it should all be in the first goddamn place.
It always makes me sad and disappointed to think rockstar used to be a great company and cared more. But now they've just become evil and greedy. They don't care about the games or the people. I think rockstar is passed their peak and it's only down from here.
There’s no noticeable upgrades. It’s actually a downgrade from the PS4 version. It’s buggy and takes longer to load, rockstars incompetence keeps surprising me.
@@angelgjr1999 60 fps is an upgrade but a small one i feel the ps4 upgrade was way bigger than this shit cause we got first person a whole new mode to go in and out and graphics was a big upgrade as well, this is not
@@TimelessWolves And if we're going off from GTA in general, Midnight Club 3 REMIX is _technically_ the expanded & enhanced version of Midnight Club 3. Yet in REMIX, we got plenty of new cars, as well as a new (albeit actually a reused asset of a) map with new events to participate in. These contents weren't locked off Online mode too! So technically, Rockstar had a history of pulling a good rerelease in the past! I don't know why they fell off in that department either!
Its so sad that there are literally hundreds of creators out there, taking the efforts to make such amazing content, laying out valid criticisms and talking about the various shortcomings of this piece of shit company, yet it is highly likely that Rockstar will do literally nothing about it and just keep milking GTA Online for another 50 years. These creators cant even pivot now cause all they've done is play the game they love so much. That being said, this was an amazing part 1, cant wait for the rest
Everyone needs to stop playing it, and people that buy shark cards must be shunned. Unfortunately most of their audience is identical to the audience of fortnite
@@AverageAlien but they are nothing alike Fortnite actually has a decent story and gets content every few weeks instead of twice a year oh and not to mention Fortnite is FREE
E&E has an issue, going from Multiplayer to Single player, when you switch from your online character via the character wheel, switch to Michael, Franklin, Trevor, the switch is super slow. It's bugged or something! I made a support ticket with Rockstar. They asked for a video of the issue & make the video unlisted, so i did. The video still has no views after they asked for a video after a week & my ticket says solved!😧
On PC they added more time to switch in the last DLC "The Contract" and for PS5 they forgot to don't do the same 🤦🏽♂️🥴 When i noticed that i was pretty shocked with +8000 hours on Steam... ScamStar Games
That *might* have something to do with the game trying to unload the Online mode assets when entering Story mode. That's my hunch on what the issue could be.
This is great critique so far. I want to add onto the "shark card" section by elaborating on just how little they've done to actually "expand and enhance" GTA Online...even before the Playstation 4 and Xbox One relaunches. Ever since GTA Online came out, I distinctly remember seeing all these rumors being spread around that Rockstar was going to expand the map by adding new islands and cities and bridges, while expanding the playable area. I know you talked about that in a previous video, but let's take a moment to think about this: Grand Theft Auto 5, the most profitable piece of ENTERTAINMENT in history for raking in between 4.5 to 6.5 billion dollars ever since it came out 9 years ago (from game sales alone), and Rockstar announced that they were going to be cannibalizing on old content to make room for new content. We've been stuck in Los Santos as a single island for the last 9 years. They're telling us that they can make updates that add overpriced vehicles and property which gate-keep mediocre missions, but they can't expand the playable map area for said missions to take place? Let alone upgrade the game to use servers instead of Peer-To-Peer connections? Seriously.
I hate when Rockstar fanboys still defending their greedy practices, and their blind with the horrible things that Rockstar have done, releasing GTA Trilogy in an unfinished state, releasing GTA 5 on next-gen with barely any update, and worse, taking out the modding community when those people has passion than the developers itself. Great video Dark Space, can't wait for the next part of this video, keep it up.
The only 2 points I disagree with in this video is the "Rockstar re-released GTAV 3-4 times/ supported GTA V for 9 years" and the "It's good Rockstar announced a new GTA". For the first one, I ask why is it a bad thing for a studio to support a game people are still playing? No other company or game is hated for continuing to be supported. Nobody complains that Mojang is still supporting Minecraft since 2011. People are excited for Minecraft's new updates. Nobody complains that DC Universe Online and Warframe have been actively supported since 2012. Or Siege since 2015. Hell, World of Warcraft is still going even after being released in 2004 on PC. So why is it wrong for Rockstar to support a game people are still playing? When Bungie released Destiny 2 in 2016, people complained it was worse than Destiny 1 so Destiny 2 was eventually updated to be more like Destiny 1. Even the number of releases isn't a bad thing. Nobody complained when GTASA was re-released 16 times so far. As for the "it's good that Rockstar announced a new GTA", I'd argue it's not because all it does is get fans even more antsy now that that info is out. And in a few years, you'll have people getting even more angry that there's no more info on the game. Look Bethesda with TES6. It would have been better for Rockstar to stay silent on GTA6 until it really was close to release.
@@FraserSouris People are hardly mad at Bethesda for TES VI. They did stated few times TES VI is after Starfield. So we were expecting waiting, TES VI teaser was however far more detailed and with passion aimed at fans of TES then Rockstar just coming out and saying "Ah yeah .. we umm ... are doing GTA VI someday too." I watched TES VI trailer and I was happy, it was well put with tons of these nitpicky details I know Bethesda for. Rockstar just saying at odd hour via social media how they will do one day GTA VI is ... not inspiring. It feels like they only cared to reassure investors, 0 care for actual game and it's potential playerbase. And it's GTA. The game is loosely based on irl but in parody manner. Compare it to TES where Betha is supposed to do whole Hammerfell - majority of which was never before featured in any TES game and they have to explore lore for Yokuda, which is again having bits accross all games but never to any large amount due to games being not focused on subject. What GTA VI has to do ? Probably copy Miami from irl as map, write story and just slap everywhere satire. Except I am not sure if it's satire anymore when company trully behaves like it irl. The only hurdle would be engine, but Rockstar had so many years to figure that out. TES is usually generation defining game, so people are okay with Bethesda releasing game when it's ready - TES is always piece of art at core. Rockstar though ... they clearly have no respect for their IP (given Defective Edition mutilating not just one but three their games), their fans (or promises to the latter - what happened to singleplayer dlc's to GTA V ?) and they hardly care even for promises to investors.
*You forgot about the predatory practices in the casino, where NPCs were winning left and right subconsciently making the player think they would win too.* Good for me I gladfully spent ~60 bucks on a bunch of shooters like BPM, DUSK, ULTRAKILL and DOOM Eternal. Way more worth my time, and I learned indie titles / small publishers are the most creative.
These guys used to rule the gaming world. Remember how every new GTA Game was setting a new standard? Yeah, the current Rockstar isn't the one that we knew.
@@King-Beezy naah dude, they might be making loads of money of kids stealing their parents credit card but they haven't really been relevant for years..
You could see that coming since 2013-2014 seeing how the Shark Cards worked. I remember already feeling like it was heading towards the pay to play, with 80 bucks of Shark Cards buying you little to nothing in the game and that was the early updates, before the first Heists. Thank god I got disgusted so early and got out from the Online. The solo mode is still nice though, but that was before GTA Online got to their heads.
Ironically, i remember when i started to voice some complaints about the problems with GTAO, mostly regarding it's grindy nature, broken economy and predatory microtransactions in some videos and forums back in 2015-16. Everyone would just call me a hater and say that i was bad at the game. In fact, the people blindly defending R* and the overall toxicity was so strong that i just quit GTAO for good ( wasn't having fun anymore anyway, didn't need the free toxicity and aggressive behavior on top ). The only shame is that it took so long for people to notice and this fight to #saverockstargames may be a losing one already.
I agree. And what's worse it's mostly young children who shouldn't even be playing the game to begin with who defends rockstar because they dont know any better. Then when you call them out as well as rockstar they get pissed then they attack you then next thing you know you get a bunch of idiots getting angry because a "dude backed up with Info" calls out the truth not even that but as soon as people call them out they still get mad, like we are trying to get a "company" to actually make new games instead of having a fat gold bar up their a** while we bow down the people who are toxic and support R* for screwing people are kissing their feet and warming up to them, while everyone that's been waiting 9 years for a new game are still calling them out. Sad thing is rockstar covers this up not just them but take two, they then attack the modding community they get their butts heard if Johnny here tells them their game sucks or is waste of money, next the sue some modders because the made the game better, and yet they cant even do their jobs right, they higher a moblie company that doesn't know what the hell their doing released the "definitive edition" and its complete shit like someone just took a giant dump on a plate and called it dinner and served it to the customer, you call this a game it's not a game it's a bugged out unpolished and laggy game that looked like wasn't worked on and was rushed that's not a game that's just being lazy. Another thing I can't stand about rockstar is their constant oh were developing a game when we already know they aren't developing a game and I bet they payed some media outlet to spread rumors who knows maybe because were calling them out so much that they're actually waking up and doing something. But that being said I highly doubt their doing anything from the past 9 years now almost closing to a decade for "GTA V" their not gonna make a new game because they're monopoly and games like saints row dont count because their games years ago gotten more worse. There is not other grand theft auto game and sad thing is there going to keep taking advantage over people as long as people keep purchasing their games or buying shark cards. #rockstarisajoke #saverockstargames [stop supporting rockstar games stop supporting scammed video games]
@@coolfightergamer what I hate the most is that they are so focused on milking GTA online that they refuse to update are or even acknowledge their other titles like red dead redemption 2 online like at this point Rockstar are the parents gta online is the spoiled rotten child and red dead redemption 2 lives outside because they forgot him at the store for the 20th time. And I suffered the same thing you did bud I saw the trailer and commented “so it’s the exact same game but 9% better graphics and nothing else new and I’m supposed to pay full price for something I already own on 2 of my consoles instead of making gta v for the fifth time why don’t you actually make a new game it’s been 10 years already and all you’ve given us is GTA V and red dead redemption 2 that you refuse to give any attention to and the Gta trilogy which was so bad parts of the game where actually unplayable not to mention the hideous character models. And I was met with replies basically defending rockstar and claiming I’m just a hater or rockstar is doing the best they can you should be happy about this. At that point I officially gave up.
@@ToxicVex267 I know how you feel, and it's so frustrating that people don't do their research the ones that defend rockstar games clearly dont care what some true fans say or people who have facts backed up, I also feel like the trilogy was a massive failure they try to remove the originals then they get called out for it after the entire game was shit. Then they bring back the original titles and then they brush it off and say we should be grateful which to add to the cherry ontop they screwed us over by releasing the same game 9 years later still no map expansion, no single player expansion same map, same San Andreas, same character's were is San fierro were is north yankton as a fully explorable town nothing but yeah people that defend rockstar need to understand that we all been waiting years almost a decade now if a company doesn't care about their games then there's a problem. But again I agree it's sad that we have to see not just them doing this but other gaming companies worse part is microtransactions do nothing but then make a gaming company get lazy and then greedy if at most greedy they only start caring about their blood money.
I always love how you place the things you're showing us in the world of GTA cities. Other youtubers would just throw articles full screen and expect us to read it all. Love this channel!!
Glad u made a video about this. I was heavily affected by take 2s greedy take over. I was lvl 887 and had made over 750 mil legit grinding and I spent about 300 bucks rl money on shark cards between 2014-2016 until I stared grinding endlessly. I had every vehicle apartment and all businesses fully upgraded making 4 mil a day I had it all…After walking up to an apartment and clicking a trade in value of 2 million dollars that rockstar was offering, I got my entire account reset to 0 with no money or status. I sent multiple emails pleading for my account and all I got was automated messages saying it was permanent. I played the game endlessly for 7 1/2 years and they just took it all away for their mistake. They purged the community to make sure u buy more of their product. I’ll never trust or will be a fan of this company ever again. I fondly remember the times before gta 5 as a golden era in my mind of what I was a fan of. But they changed. They are not the same company any more and with that I’ve walked away. All they did was give me freedom by removing me from their greedy un cared for world.
“This -place- Dev, ain’t no such thing as civilized. It’s man, so in love with greed... He has forgotten himself and found only appetites.” - Dutch, RDR2
This is what happens when an organization becomes so successful that they loose track of their purpose. The user base ultimately determine the level of service they are willing to accept. They have collectively decided that will accept the bare minimum and they get it.
Unfortunately, as long as it's profitable they'll not change. Stop buying their trash with hope, instead - wait with doubt. Vote with your dollar, folks. Consumers set the bar when we wield our money properly.
nah that won't work or at least it doesn't work without everyone who continues to play gta online stop playing it which is impossible since people won't stop playing gta online and pay for their services just because you ask them to. Thanks to this (to the masses who give their money) Rockstar is condemned as a company that only wants the money of the masses and that does not care about anything else literally they became a company like EA only interested in selling the same game and exploit their franchises to the fullest (EA with fifa and Rockstar with gta) the only thing left for us is to support independent companies so that one day we can see a rival that is better than gta.
They succumbed to corporate greed they used to mock. Someone's raking in the cash and they're not going to waste a penny on improving the game or the player's experience if they don't see the payoff. They don't care if they ruin Rockstar's reputation in the process, they'll sell up and move on when they've milked the cash cow dry. I've been convinced for some time that Rockstar's remaining programmers are 3rd rate at best, with all the errors that keep creeping in. The market is ripe for another studio to come in and snatch Rockstar's laurels.
The part in the expanded and enhanced trailer where Trevor says "We are literally gonna make out like bandits on this" must be a sneaky way of R* saying how they know they're fucking us over again and they just don't care at this point
I actually had an argument with a friend over Rockstar's mistreatment over Red Dead/and how they manage GTA. He's just, "Oh you think you can do better? Make it yourself, then." - obviously I can't without the tools or access necessary to make a company, study game design, etc. but I shot back with, "Give me Strauss-levels of money and the prep time necessary, a proper crew team and I gladly will hold you to your word." That's how bad it is lol.
Your friend’s retort is literally so stupid, with that idea, we legit can’t have an opinion on anything. We can’t say anything about the food restaurants give us or the music we listen to or the movies we watch because we didn’t make those products ourselves. We can still evaluate the quality of said products because we can know about what it’s made of, and WE are the ones who pay for it. Now sure we should be respectful of the people who make these things since we didn’t put in the work for that ourselves, but that doesn’t mean we can’t evaluate the quality of the product. Like you can’t say Morbius wasn’t a good movie because we didn’t make it ourselves or something? BULL-SHIT
Everybody is stanning over Dan houser and other writers/VA, when we have all played these games for nearly 20 years. As seen in video essays its not exactly the story that makes gta gta, its the satirical but not completely over the top world like with Saints row. I dont think its impossible for new faces to create GTA worthy games.
Man, I remember when GTAV came out. Now it’s funny to think that a 13 year old who played the game at release is now 23 years old today. Then I remember that I’m 22.
I was tempted many times to buy the Shark Cards in GTA Online, but thankfully, I never caved in and just managed to find peeps that actually gave a damn of me being heist host. With Cayo, I never have to worry bout GTA+ at all. Hell, you're better off goibg with the Criminal Enterprise Starter Pack, coz that actually helps and you get a good few cars for free as well.
ima be honest I went down the chaotic path of duping like 200+ cars back in like 2017 after I learned about how missions were changed. I never got banned because I very slowly got rid of them but I don’t recommend it
@@Xernitory neither Simeon the monkey-man nor duplicate glitches never helped me, so my only hope was to join whatever heist was available as a freelance crew-mate, a hired gunman of sorts to the highest bidder. So many failed setups and finales with randoms, no one joining me when I was heist crew-leader, I was slowly giving up, but then I finally got peeps that were willing to help me with the heists, to which eventually I had enough to buy the Arcade, which then lead me to Cayo, to where I became independent, no longer needing to rely on others for help.
There have been times where I've been tempted to buy shark cards and gold bars but I'm able to resist. I would rather grind Cayo and just not play RDO.
@@StuartLugsden it’s unfortunate what happened to Red Dead Online. I’d like to play it, but personally, I just found it hard to get into. Hopefully in the future it’ll get the love and respect it’ll get, but as for now, just keep holding on.
This is an absolute phenomenal effort and I'm looking forward to the next 3 parts! When you're finished all of them, will you edit them into one super video???
The Rockstar we grew to love no longer exists. If we want them to change, we don't support their efforts to keep Online alive. We don't give them the satisfaction or the money.
It's too bad there will always many mindless consumer zombies who burn their money on stupid bullshit like shark cards. These types of people will forever enable Rockstar to be the greedy money mongering corporation it has devolved into no matter how much fans of Rockstar's ips with an iq above room temperature lash out against it's obnoxious greed.
I'm sure these will be covered in Part 2, but just incase, the SaveRedDeadOnline movement is a definite must to be covered. Also the futuristic vehicles could use a deeper look (I know it has been discussed alot but it has potential to fit into the series), not to mention how when Rockstar compensated PC players by giving away the OG GTAs, they were broken on PCs running Windows 10 without mods. The OG San Andreas Mobile Port, etc.
Fun fact: In the definitive edition switch version, while driving a car, you can tap on the places where the buttons would be on the mobile ports and it would control the car.
I am very scared of Rockstars future, they genuinely made some memorable games back in the days, now they don't even care about the ppl who play these games, like literally it makes me sad.
I can only imagine how Dan Houser, Terry Donovan, Jamie King, Gary Forman, Leslie Benzies, Lazlow Jones and everyone else who has been with Rockstar since the start and left since feels about the state of the company. I bet you all of them are glad to be out of there and wondering when the worst is to come.
To be fair, Houser and co weren't going to magically make the game better. Especially given House and Laslow are writers (and not even a good one on GTA games) and not a programmer. If GTA6 is going to suffer from its development issues, it would have suffered even if all the original heads were there since the bulk of the work is done by the regular devs working on the game. Hell, given what we know about how Houser and Benzlies operated, it might actually be better that they're gone since their replacements might stop constantly rebooting everything. Quote: "This has been a common occurrence in the last years of development on a Rockstar game. Dan and Sam Houser, the co-founders of Rockstar and creative leads on Red Dead Redemption 2, are renowned for rebooting, overhauling, and discarding large chunks of their games. Through eight years of development on Red Dead Redemption 2, the Housers and other directors have made a number of major changes to the story, the core gameplay mechanics, and the game’s overall presentation. " Houser and Co were notorious for rebooting large chunks of their games. Their approach was one of the issues with Rockstar.
@@StuartLugsden I'd argue the GTA games' writing is much more inconsistent because they often mash up various different stories and tones, as well as trying to keep the player happy in a video game. As a result, the stories lack the impact they could have. Like, take GTA Vice City for example. Its story is pretty much just Scarface in video game form. It gets it right that Tommy should be a terrible person like Montana. But in Scarface, Montana dies as a result of the growing paranoia. But in Vice City, Tommy gets to eliminate his rivals and life happily ever after. As a result, Vice City's story lacks the impact of its source material because it ignores the point of the story that Montana's life was screwed because of his choices. Or in GTA SA, that game's early story takes its cues from films like Menace II society. And to be fair, does a good job in the early game by having CJ do more "mundane" missions in the hood while seeing how Tenpenny has his thumb over him and how drugs are ruining the lives of people. But fast forward later and CJ is breaking into Area 51 and hijacking planes mid-flight. It makes it harder to take Tenpenny seriously as a threat later when CJ has canonically done things comic book superheroes can't do. GTA 4's story suffers because it's just the film Brother but with GTA's gameplay. GTAV's story suffers because it can't decide what to take seriously. For example It treats Micheal's family like blanket stereotypes. Amanda is that stereotypical shirl wife. Tracey that stereotypical teenage girl. Jimmy that stereotypical gamer boy. But then has a major arc dedicated to Micheal reuniting with them. This lacks impact because it treats Micheal's family as blanket stereotypes, it never allows these characters to develop or become likable so we the audience have no reason for them to reunite. Even RDR2, while the actual narrative is fantastic, hampers its storytelling by having the gameplay feel vestigial. You have so many missions where you just boringly follow an NPC to a spot or engage in pointless filler shootouts. So stuff like the final shootout at the end of chapter 3 loses a lot of its impact if a random carriage robbery 2 missions ago has you killing the same amount of people.
We should come together and whenever Rockstar tweets we fill their reply section with this video. It's not very likely that it'd get through to rockstar because they're robots who don't pay attention to anything their community does, but it might spread the word more for people who don't truly understand the extent to which rockstar have become one of the worst companies in the history of gaming.
That'll go about as well as #SaveRedDeadOnline They don't give a fuck. People who actually want a semblance of quality from them aren't their target audience anymore, they just want morons who either blindly fanboy them because of past success and constantly give money because of it or a minority of rich people who constantly spend money on the game.
@@brapa1190 Rockstar hired Grove Street Games because they are too focused on their main cash cow, GTA Online, which earns millions of dollars every day, they're basically printing money at this point. Also GSG's entire portfolio consisted of mobile games, and terrible mobile/console ports, which means you can hire them for very little money for "AAA remasters" and they'll take it to diversify their portfolio. Rockstar was never concerned with the quality of these games, and GSG wasn't capable of upholding the quality either. Its the perfect partnership for Rockstar, financially. Rockstar will probably partner up with GSG a few more times and make easy money before it starts to affect them, at which point GSG will once again rename itself, and we'll see the whole thing happen all over again.
Even if literally everything is fixed on the Trilogy: Bullshit edition (bugs, poor animation etc.) it will still be a piece of junk. These games need full remakes, not 30 seconds of development just SLIGHTLY improving the aiming system. I guess I'm picky as a modern gamer. These remasters need to feel at least as good to play as GTA 4 if not 5.
I disagree, the gameplay for those three original games still mostly holds up (apart from on foot combat for 3 and Vice city), all they needed was an actual good graphical update that didn't make the games worse in nearly every way possible but greed said otherwise apparently
@@corporateshill3225 lighting and overall graphics look mostly better yeah but the entire art style and attention to detail is completely gone, for example Liberty city has completely lost its atmosphere and is now some sunny bright city instead of the dark and moody city it's supposed to be. Upgraded modern graphics aren't always an improvement
@@corporateshill3225 They only look better from a distance. If you look closely, you'll notice that every city looks and feels the same. There are collision issues, with some objects being invisible and flying away. Grass and leaves float off the ground. Whenever you're in quiet places, its absolutely silent, no ambient sounds (which were in the original). The list goes on and on really.
It's kinda sad really. From people like me growing up in the mid to late 2000s absolutely fucking loving Rockstar for the stuff they made to saying, "AGAIN BRUH!?"
I'd like to talk about the awful defense of *"It's a good business tactic!"* If the only measurement used to qualify anything as a "good business tactic" is that it makes money, then A LOT of awful things can be classified as such. Mugging someone in a back alley can be considered a business tactic. Don't think like a GTA griefer. That whole "the game allows me to do it, so it's fine" mentality seems to be seeping into our own reality. Just because Rockstar CAN charge you, the consumer, an unreasonable price for an equally unreasonable product severely lacking in quality, DOES NOT MEAN that it's ok! Rockstar Games and Take 2 Interactive are grievers; they do what they want without facing any consequences of their own AND their actions are always at the expense of others. Let that sink in...
At this point I actually really hope that some company just makes their own GTA. So that Rockstar finally falls off their monopolistic throne. Let's be honest, we all stay with Rockstar only because there's no other comparable GTA-like game. I really do hope that some day a big company makes their own game and makes it better than Rockstar. They need to realize that they can't just do what they want. But yeah at the moment they can very well do what they want. Cause we as players have no alternative. But maybe we will one day let's hope for that 🤷🏻♂️
This is not fucking true. Saints row has better sandbox and missions, Watch dogs has better ai, mission design and gameplay variety, sleeping dogs has better story and combat yet yall ignore it.
@@hawken796 Lmao Saints Row was turned to shit a loong time ago. Watch dogs is a boring tech weirdo game. Sleeping dogs was released a century ago and had MANY issues. Only trully competitive games were Mafia and Driver but they were also turned to shit and never got multiplayer so they wouldn't last for years..
@@CptAngelKGaming I can agree to disagree since in my experience Sleeping Dogs was pretty amazing.. However, I share the same sentiment that Volition really squandered their chance at serious competition when they began focusing off the people who appealed to their game in the first place... good that seemingly a lot somehow still appealed to their bonkers attitude but still really lost the original edge they had. I really regret buying 3&4 because I just can't get good into it 😭
@@CptAngelKGaming Yet i would take Saints Row 1 and 2, WatchDogs 1 and 2 ( even freaking Legion ) and Sleeping Dogs over any of the bullshit R* spews out in their " updates " for the only 2 games they made in the last decade. Only the story in these games is actually worth playing and that can only carry 2 games for so long before it gets boring or repetitive. I'm calling it right now, GTA 6 will be the next Cyberpunk 2077/No Man's Sky of this generation, my expectations are already on the ground, but i don't doubt R* will make them go even lower.
@@jishan6992 i'd guess digital signal processors, which are chips used in synthesizers, or whatever that made or modified sound. those have been on decline and newer and more efficient technologies like fpga is taking its place.
I feel if ubisoft focused their efforts, stopped being scummy and took advantage of the love for the watchdogs series they could seriously contend and possibly beat rockstar at their own game given the current state of the company
Absolutely, i actually really enjoyed Watch Dogs 1, but since then, it became cringe and woke and then the third one was like apocalyptic dystopia so... idk what was up with that lol. But i would love to see Ubisoft come back and make a game similar to what Watch Dogs 1 should've really been, put in a lot of money and maybe not copy/paste buildings and stuff and they'd be making TONS of sales from that, no question... but they won't do that, i'm sure.
@@DeadSpacedOut Ubisoft cares more about ez sales and targeting a large audience rather than actually attempting to make a decent game like the AC series at this moment in time has no direction at all only “how to make our games sale” which they reach the conclusion of making the game a large RPG just because it will appeal to more people so its very predictable to think that with Watch Dogs they will just try their best to make the game sell rather than actually try to stay true to the original formula
@@sigmanerd8553 Yeah, Ubisoft has fallen from grace as most companies have... they used to make such great titles like Far Cry 2, Trackmania, Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon (the good ones), Rainbow Six Vegas, Assassin's Creed was one of my all time favorites back in the day and even Watch Dogs 1... i know it didn't live up to most standards and such but i never saw the trailer, i just bought the game cuz it looked similar to GTA lol and i thought it was fun and i loved the Minigames and stuff. My main issue was that i couldn't fly a heli or plane or anything, but other than that, i rather enjoyed the first one and i really wish they'd make the next Watch Dogs a reboot, make it similar to the first one but do what people really wanted and what was promised... and also add air vehicles lol, i like my open world games to have no boundaries.
Man you really know how to make quality content I agree on everything its so weird how a studio can fall on the dark and be so easy about it Its maybe becouse the more loved they are the more fast they lose contact
Something I always remember about rockstar is that they love their controversy. Part of me has always been sitting here thinking, they couldn't be ruining their reputation on purpose? Would they literally let gta V burn to almost make people stop playing? Dunno maybe that's me making excuses for laziness, all I know is that the old company who would put things into games on the chance of it getting picked up by the media doesn't feel like this same company. Is it a farce or just real laziness tho
I know what you mean, a part of me was thinking, maybe they're being quiet because they're about to drop something huge on us and blow us away, maybe GTA V Expanded & Enhanced would be huge, new story missions, new maps, vehicles, new cities etc! But, now we know it wasn't close to that 😅... Unfortunately I think they've become a lazy, cash grab company ☹ I don't think they're entirely to blame though, I think T2 have too much input on how they're doing things now
@@doublelifeharvey9044 yeah I was thinking I hate rockstar for letting this happen but we need to point fingers at T2, they have reports of greediness, mismanagement, microtransaction garbage and more. Look how they’ve ruined NBA 2k
GTA Dookie Edition is the equivalent of asking for chocolate ice cream with sprinkles, and instead they take a shit on your plate, put on the sprinkles and say “what’re you whining about? We gave you the sprinkles!”
Whenever I see you say that the Defecitive Edition is this and that, I'm always reminded of the brain-dead fan base who I tried to warn about the cluster turd coming our way to not buy, but to be down voted to oblivion is just beyond me now.
These downvoters could possible be the same people who thinks that "Saints Row copied GTA". But either way, just shows that blind loyalty can bite you in the ass in the future.
@@genmeriphoton7655 saints row was made before GTA tbh saints row was the best non online game my fav one was space ships invading and you had so much cars and shit
@@beepboopbeepbeepboop744 I know, but the last I checked, Saints Row's development were made public sometime after GTA San Andreas was announced, hence the confusion. I respect your opinion though.
@@beepboopbeepbeepboop744 Saints Row began development in 2003 for the PS2. GTA came out in 1997 for PS1, MS DOS and Microsoft Windows. So no, Saints Row didn’t come before GTA. Stop chatting shit.
Rockstar is an example of: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Exactly
@ I agree, we think EA was bad? Take a load of this company called Take-Two Interactive and Rockstar games.
@@rickyRofficial It's pretty much a fact at this point.
Its a shame how some people are still willing to defend rockstar
The villain is the people who keeps giving rock star money
I don't get why other Studios get stumped in for one mistake but Rockstar can make as many as they want and the fanboys still stay behind their back.
It's like they get a memory reset after every update
@@AverageAlien That's a good one!
Lol like men in black
So it works like this:
100% of people see your work and support you.
30% of them will start to lose interest so they would leave or hate.
40% will stay a fan but be less profitable for you.
The other 30% will be fanboying.
Rockstar games is a famous company so if we go back to that 100% people, THEY ARE A LOT. So the 70% who leave the supporting side, will not make the 30% small. Those fanboys are still a lot of people.
Because the stupid fanboys always going to use "but they made amazing games" as argument.
Take 2 needs to be investigated if they're willingly allowing their PC users to be targeted like that. The fact that they require their launcher and DRM to play the game regardless of if you're playing multiplayer, whose security is so bad that people can literally stalk and DDOS you just by knowing your SOCIAL CLUB ID is so fucking sketchy.
It's not just PC. The same can be done on consoles
Take two aka ✡️✡️✡️✡️
@@lenol0315 The Take Two interactive ltd and the Clinton foundation along with the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation have partnered to help DDOSers gain information for new victims. Along with the nation of Israel (formerly Palestine), these companies will help keep those who expose the truth, silent.
Haven't watched the video yet, could you explain why they target PC users?
@@spectroelectro3772 Their entire online ecosystem is unsecure. People using mod menus online can actually see YOUR IP ADDRESS thanks to GTA 5's Peer-to-Peer nature. And once they have it, they kick you out of servers, follow you around and harass you in-game, and even fuck around with you while playing single-player. I'm not even joking when I say it's actually safer to pirate the game if you want to play single-player only.
Ironically:
*Rockstar Games is becoming a company they would mock in their in-game commercials lmao*
Thats scary accurate actually though!
One could say they took heavy inspiration from themselves.
GTA V: The Definitive Edition, rated PG for Pretty much the same as the last Game
rockstar games isnt the same company anymore bc the ogs all left
@@hi-kt3qr It doesn't mean that this is a bad thing. There are a lot of passionated people in the industry seeing they goal becomeing part of Rockstar Games for they career and are proud of it. Have fresh energy. I would join them to see whats going on and trying to safe them if i would have the control over it.
You know what the problem is? It's that we still think this is the "old rockstar", but since the game released almost every single person who worked on and cared about the game has left. It's just an IP that a corporation has taken over now and it's never coming back...
Who?
@@dbz287 Dan Houser I think, him and a few others left the company. I wonder why...
@@awii.neocities they left because what rockstar was turning to, Dan never wanted it to be like that. He's a guy who likes to make games, rockstar games always had that amazing games because of him and a lot of other good people that wanted to do a good work (like Leslie for example), and since rockstar wasn't doing shit, after the rdr2 release he left the company with a bunch of other people remaining only Sam, the main reason why rockstar is a complete garbage nowadays.
@@dbz287
Dan Houser
Terry Donovan
Jamie King
Gary Forman
Leslie Benzies
Lazlow Jones
The guy in charge of Rockstar San Diego
And many other higher ups and lower downs
@@AnekoF90 Sam houser and the Humphrey guy are the ones who remain. Hopefully they will compensate. Also, I’m guessing Dan had already written gta vi before he left. Hopefully they use what he made
As a Canadian I can tell you that when you purchase shark cards in game from Rockstar they cost 133 CAD but on the PlayStation store they’re 100 CAD. Nice vid
I feel Rockstar officially sealed the deal of their downfall when Dan Houser left. He saw where his company was going and didn't want any part of it. When the lead writer for most of their games leaves, it's a bad omen. The greed ruined Rockstar. It's sad to see.
To be fair, Houser and co weren't going to magically make the game better. Especially given House and Laslow are writers (and not even a good one on GTA games) and not a programmer.
If GTA6 is going to suffer from its development issues, it would have suffered even if all the original heads were there since the bulk of the work is done by the regular devs working on the game.
Hell, given what we know about how Houser and Benzlies operated, it might actually be better that they're gone since their replacements might stop constantly rebooting everything.
Quote:
"This has been a common occurrence in the last years of development on a Rockstar game. Dan and Sam Houser, the co-founders of Rockstar and creative leads on Red Dead Redemption 2, are renowned for rebooting, overhauling, and discarding large chunks of their games. Through eight years of development on Red Dead Redemption 2, the Housers and other directors have made a number of major changes to the story, the core gameplay mechanics, and the game’s overall presentation. "
Houser and Co were notorious for rebooting large chunks of their games. Their approach was one of the issues with Rockstar.
They'll milk GTA for the next several years. Mark my words.
And there’s a reason why I really couldn’t care when the “announced” GTA 6.
It’s just gonna be GTA 5, except it’s gonna last like 2 times longer.
@@FraserSouris Dan Houser was a fine writer in terms of dialogue, and the stories he wrote for some of the games were pretty fun and entertaining to play through
@@earlysteven123
That's somewhat my point. Houser is just that, a fine writer at best. What he does isn't amazing and could be replaced by any decent Hollywood writer.
"Michael, they're fucking us. The suits! And they don't even wear suits!"
-Solomon Richards
Good one LOL
“They’re wolves in turd’s clothing”
As a wise man once said
"Say what you will about billionaires, but the billionaires of today have ZERO drip, how you gon' have billions of dollars and still dress like a Redditor."
"It’s man, so in love with greed... He has forgotten himself and found only appetites.” - Dutch, RDR2
You know a company is letting their fans down when there’s TH-cam Channels dedicated to calling them out
*DAMN RIGHT!*
I love the fact that you managed to keep coming up with new words that start with D to describe the Trilogy instead of calling it "Definitive". The dedication and creatively is real here
@ GTA Trilogy don't buy it addition.
@@jakehildebrand1824 Yea I also missed that
GTA: Derivative Edition
@ probably one that couldn't, but should've, been said 🤣
@@budsak7771 It shouldn't even be called definitive in the first place
Sad to see that people even defend Rockstar’s actions.. Rockstar have lost their way.
R* dont even hit top ten in my list of gaming companies
I even put EA above them…that’s right I put EA above R* ….yeah you see how bad R* has become.
Rockstar is still the best!
@@corporateshill3225 *Was the best. They are even lazier than EA now
@@corporateshill3225 the peasant r* fanboy
I got burnt out on GTA V when I was still a teenager living at home and in my freshman year of community college. I’m now 27, married, have a toddler, and have been out of college for half a decade.
hah! i was maybe 9 or 8 when i convinced my mom to get me gta 5 on the 360. give it a month or two and i'll almost have become a senior in high school before i get to see *any* gta 6 gameplay. thank god i got tired of GTAO in 2016 and started playing fivem whenever i got bored
Gtav was released in 2013, you were in your 19-20s i think. How come is that teenager years, lol?
Nvm, im just struck how fast time flys by. Im myself 27 too.
I was in 6th grade when this game came out and now I’m in college
im 17 years old now i don’t really use my ps4 and i stopped playing gta 5 8 months ago it got so boring now i don’t play ps4 i wanna sell it
I'm 28 still going to uni, eating pizza and playing GTA and cod all day :(
I can’t wait for another company to come along and make something similar to a rockstar game and then make jokes in their games against rockstar like rockstar did against other open World Series in the 2000s
this is amazing
R✡
and then become rockstar
Imagine if ubisoft actually makes a good driver reboot and they add jokes about rockstar like how they did back in the 2000s
Insomniac Games is the new Rockstar Games.
I find it funny that LEGO Star Wars The Skywalker Saga had better ray tracing than GTAV A&E
True xD
comparing lego star wars to ANYTHING is blasphemy it is the greatest game series ever made 😡😡
-i am being sarcastic lol-
Fucking OOF.
@@dalelumina3 Lego city is a better game than GTA v
truth
A+ Editing & Narration. Great video🔥
Agreed. Also hi enxgma.
Ayyyy boi enxgma
Use different music
🤚
"smash that fullscreen button" this man is not only filled to the brim with knowledge, but also with charisma. love your channel, man!
about the online security part he barely has any knowledge lmao
@@madhunter6420 that’s why he called up our lord, savior, and funny Indian man, Muta😂. It was a great video
@@madhunter6420 wdym?
@@adwans1491 I mean what i meant and you read.
@@madhunter6420 So Nothing?
Your editing is phenomenal, good stuff!
It's not just his Editing, he creates those graphics and effects from Scratch and renders those 3D models him self.
Astonishing to say the least… man has definitely found his gift/calling
Agreed
Righttt I found those visuals super satisfying.
@@FR4M3Sharma Now THAT is pure dedication to awesome art! Simply astonishing
Rockstar had so many good franchises under their belt...Car guys will never forget the neglect of the Midnight Club franchise.
Yea they gave us masterpieces!
And these goofs are complaining and u grateful...
@@snapstradamus888 oh yeah because gtao and RDO is a masterpiece
at least you guys had 4 games. as a fan of the "Bully", we only have 1 GAME. so quit your whining.
I tried mc2 once and I can say I didn't like it. Cool premise but Idk man, maybe it's just me.
Bully,Manhunt,Midnight Club,Max Payne...and we only get Red Dead Redemption and GTA
My first time playing GTA online when it launched on 360 was "You're telling me I can't steal a banshee to own.... in Grand Theft Auto... WTF" and to this day you still can't steal a banshee and put in your garbage I mean garage.
So true
Yep, that never sat right. I preferred the GTA 4 online experience, a few solid game modes, freeplay in particular was a lot of fun. GTAO is like GTA by committee.
@@Grandmastergav86 I still play GTA4 from time to time. It was so much fun and simpler back then. This was before rockstar started ripping off their own fan bases.
and you cant even mod some of the cars now
one thing i think you should cover is how r* really tries to do damage control. let me show you how:
when rockstar released the ps5 gta5 trailer in 2020, they were met with huge backlash (rightfully so). but then once they announced a new dlc for gtao (los santos summer special), everyone lost their minds since they confirmed they are working on a new location. then, fast forward more years and they released another trailer for e&e that showed how little it improved. but once they announced the making of a original remaster series, everyone again was hyped to be able to replay their favorite games from their childhood. they used this as an opportunity to also cover up the fact that they were taking down mods that made their game look worse than dedicated fans who work for free to improve their legacy.
then, once again when they proved they are incapable of anything and the community saw how bad the trilogy remaster was, they announced the contract dlc with franklin and everyone was pro-rockstar again. meanwhile, the red dead community had just been given a will-smith smack to the face when december of 2021 was the first december where they didnt get an update but instead, lame event weeks and r* acting like they still care about red dead online. people on twitter spammed #savereddeadonline and r* was surely panicking on the backlash they are getting. they had another way to get people back on their side: write 2 paragraphs confirming the development of gta6 but it was essentially blatant lies (to me at least). people were so excited because r* had essentially given what seemed to be a full plate of food to a group of starving people when in reality, they had only given bread crumbs. and when e&e was another fiasco, they thought of another way to save their reputation: talk about how they are rebalancing gtao when they really arent going to.
its the same cycle over and over again. this is all in my perspective at least...
as they had just released gta+, they must think of another way to cover that up. but how many more lies can they pull out of their ass?
Spot on
Just recently and shortly after GTA+ they announced a Max Payne remake
@@versace6609 if so, then that's their cover-up for gta+. lets just hope they don't butcher it again like they did with the trilogy...
@@idontknow5062
This time, it's just a lucky coincidence for Rockstar, I'm sure of it. I hope Remedy won't get dragged through the mud if the Max Payne remakes were deemed successful.
@@genmeriphoton7655 i dont know, it all seems so perfectly put together for them to not receive too much hate that it almost seems impossible for it all to just come together in r*'s favor...
GTA: A game about stealing cars, turning into a game about buying cars. Last time I checked a Grand Theft Auto doesn't involve *buying* a car.
They grand theft autod us
Last I checked, police weren't psychic and couldn't find you five miles from the crime scene hiding behind ten tons of concrete and brick.
Last time I checked a Grand theft Auto game didn't have a fucking subscription service for monthly shitty rewards like 500k$, 3x RP and some shitty liveries.
I mean I don't even intend to join on some consumer boycott. I genuinely try to avoid them because it feels extremely wrong to support this kind of behavior
Last time I checked, a definitive edition was an improvement over the originals... Your turn now :P
Last time I checked flying bikes weren't grief tools for 12yr olds
Rockstar Games' negligence and laziness in the past recent years makes me believe that GTA VI will be just as poorly managed [if not worse] than the state GTA V is in now. We've lost Dan Houser, Leslie Benzies and Lazlow Jones whom are the heart and soul of Rockstar Games, and without the heart and soul, the body cannot operate. Instead we're left with a husk; a shell of their former glory, like having a Ferrari with an empty interior and no engine, Rockstar has become the very thing they've mocked for decades ---- and for what? They got caught up in the money, the fame and the power. I've been a fan of Rockstar since 2002, and Red Dead 2 was sadly their last good game and one of their best, but I think I'm done with them. ✌🏾
Same, rdr2 was and will be my last purchase from R* unless they pull their heads out of their asses and start to actually communicate/ listen to their community but we all know pigs will fly and hell will freeze long before that happens
Hey, Lazlow left cause his sister got cancer, it was the main reason. He wanted to spend time with her.
@@jackcravford8744 Still, he's a key piece of the puzzle, and with other key pieces missing, the future for a good future R* game looks bleak.
Boycott rockstar games, delete ALL their products and stop buying all their stupid subpar "products"
@@presidentkiller ever heard of Phil Hooker? Leading Director of programming and technology in rockstar... Well him and his team is responsible for the little details, insane graphics, random encounters etc, all the things that make fans fall in love with a rockstar game... His still in the company, thats why i think gta vi will be bigger and better... But as for the story part and the radio stations, it will most likely be extremely poor... But i never did care about a gta game because of story, its the openworld free roam aspect i fell in love with, so leslie, dan and lazlow leaving doesnt affect me at all..
Can we all try and find rockstar investors to share this video with
Righttt? Gotta be some rich dudes just be like “Yo do you really know what your investing in?”
that's quite a great idea
@Khartikeyen Satheraman 4 shares? you ain’t gonna make any money worth your while
I'm convinced people who blame "investors" for how companies like rockstar operate have no idea what investors are or do.
@@rayquaza1245 dumbass, I’m saying show the investors what they’re investing so they could potentially stop giving rockstar funding, you fucking dotard
So let's see here: Greed, laziness, bootlickers, hover bikes, Shark cards, ego, and negligence.
Got a question related to parts 2, 3, and 4: Do they also have a musical number?
Ikr the song was actually really good
Rockstar is that one company you make in Software Inc. that earns hundreds of millions of dollars and you kinda stop trying to make good products since you don't really have to
@@toptierdiscordmod7806 aw man that sucks, i don't know tho sorry
@@toptierdiscordmod7806 try Game Dev Tycoon
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Rockstar Games lived too long and here we are... Great video as always!
Yooo big fan
@@IlMemetor72 It is a good life we lead, brother.
Money ratio 👍2 👎123983
Liked by rockstar and take 2 and disliked by litteraly every fricking ppl
An important thing left out is the glitches, they quickly remove the fun ones but never take out the game breaking glitches, Rockstar is anti-fun now and days which is a bummer because launch glitches along with other funny glitches is what made this game fun when looking for something to due other then grind, combat someone or race.
Just like in RDO. All the money making glitches were gone in a day, but the game breaking glitches sometimes took weeks or months to be fixed
For eg they fixed the ghost car glitch in gta 3 defective edition instead of fixing game breaking glitches
@@22.piyushnaik76 walter
So much nostalgia watching Vanoss and Friends having fun with random glitches in Online
fr. the loading screen bugs and the disconnection bugs are the ones ive been having for a long time and they never fix it, they can add random ass dune buggies to the game but can't fix a simple bug
This guy is a wizard in editing, and also communicates the truth
32:11 that’s when I gave in and bought the 3.5 mil shark card. After spending most of my free time grinding and selling crates, I finally bought myself a MKII. After that I found out that I need a Terrorbyte to even put rockets on it, and in order to buy a Terrorbyte you need a nightclub. I feel ashamed to this day…
I'm not even excited for GTA 6 anymore the way how rockstar is performing is making me feel this way
This is sad to see R* just not being themselves again. We need R* to be what they used to be; Risk taking, edgy and more consumer friendly.
I am guessing all the success lead to some overboard partying followed by some drama and people quitting. Not sure they are who they one where
Nah at this point we just need them to go away. They're fucked by corporate interests. Let some other small studio full of passionate people make the next big open world crime game. Rockstar doesn't even deserve it at this point.
Let them die. Let them all die out. All those corporations, all those franchises are taken over by greed. All of them commited shitty, greedy and shameless business practices at some point in some form and in a way that shouldn't even be ethically acceptable. Like we are talking genuinely ripping your customers off, selling incomplete and broken games, promoting gambling to children, selling a solution for a problem you created solely to sell said solution, locking content that should've been part of the base game behind a paywall... The list goes on.
And since there's no law that punishes this behavior and large customerships always contain gullible and irresponsible people who will support this behavior there's no end to this in sight.
There's practically two ways to deal with it 1) ignore them, and either go to the few remaining decent gaming studios, play older titles with no options for monetary transactions or find a new hobby
Or 2) be a pirate. Since those corporations are ripping people off 24/7 noone will notice as long as you only do it for your own private purposes
@@zwenkwiel816 exactly rockstar doesn't work anymore now it's just a big ceo company that is only interested in money (like bethesda or EA) now what we need are new companies with new and passionate people who want to make video games and who are not corrupted by corporate interests to generate money
@@zwenkwiel816 Hell no bro. I am getting my gta 6 one way or another.
I'm extremely up to date with gaming news and have never once in my life heard of the GTA Online IP address security flaw. That's bloody wild that this is a thing. How are people not more upset?
you havnt? its a known problem and i dont even play gta online
Everyone who knows about it is upset
But there is just such a huge pile of shit upon that as well that it becomes easy to miss
I'm in the same boat as you. What a terrible flaw.
We are upset but what can we really do about it. May aswell not even try.
It is a game. Life is there to enjoy. Fuck rockstar 😂
I legit stopped playing with friends when fucking bots would come in, then start spamming chat with IPs that have player IDs. Also, made me an ingame xenophobe towards asian players because:
1- we don't get unicode in the western version of GTA so I couldn't see if it was just text or special characters being used in the messages that could have some malicious exploit, cause all that showed up were hollow squares.
2- said messages were being posted at inhumane speeds, screaming "I'm a bot" red flags.
Basically the second I'd start seeing that I'd yank my ethernet cable.
Seriously, fuck Rockstar, I'm modding Online's content into 5, where it should all be in the first goddamn place.
I remember being a kid and thinking how sick it would be if GTA had online multiplayer.... If only I knew...
Gta 4's multiplayer is fine tho.
@@IskenderCaglarM41B441 5's was fun at some point
@@walter_248 Longggggggggggggggggg ago in a distant land I Aku, the shapeshifting master of evil...
Honestly that and rdr2 killed rockstar for me. The bad far outweighs the good
It always makes me sad and disappointed to think rockstar used to be a great company and cared more. But now they've just become evil and greedy. They don't care about the games or the people. I think rockstar is passed their peak and it's only down from here.
"Lose peer-to-peer, it's a thing of the past"
Thank you!!
"The Defecation Edition", "The Defiled Edition" love it. Totally on point! Just discovered your channel and subbed!!
About the RT shadows, Broughy did a short clip showing how even that is broken.
I'd say just do performance mode that's what I'm doing it's I'd probably say has a more stable 60 fps than RT but that's just me
@@TimelessWolves I don't have any console since the Wii, it's a non-issue for me, just information
There’s no noticeable upgrades. It’s actually a downgrade from the PS4 version. It’s buggy and takes longer to load, rockstars incompetence keeps surprising me.
@@angelgjr1999 60 fps is an upgrade but a small one i feel the ps4 upgrade was way bigger than this shit cause we got first person a whole new mode to go in and out and graphics was a big upgrade as well, this is not
@@TimelessWolves And if we're going off from GTA in general, Midnight Club 3 REMIX is _technically_ the expanded & enhanced version of Midnight Club 3. Yet in REMIX, we got plenty of new cars, as well as a new (albeit actually a reused asset of a) map with new events to participate in. These contents weren't locked off Online mode too!
So technically, Rockstar had a history of pulling a good rerelease in the past! I don't know why they fell off in that department either!
Its so sad that there are literally hundreds of creators out there, taking the efforts to make such amazing content, laying out valid criticisms and talking about the various shortcomings of this piece of shit company, yet it is highly likely that Rockstar will do literally nothing about it and just keep milking GTA Online for another 50 years.
These creators cant even pivot now cause all they've done is play the game they love so much.
That being said, this was an amazing part 1, cant wait for the rest
Everyone needs to stop playing it, and people that buy shark cards must be shunned. Unfortunately most of their audience is identical to the audience of fortnite
Definitely. The owner is smug and money hungry. He’s doing this on purpose because at this point he’s untouchable.
@@AverageAlien exactly, in fact I would even say x10 worse than fortnite, there's so many scammers and scums. GTA Online NEEDS to die.
Rockstar doesn't give a fuck to the community, never gave.
@@AverageAlien but they are nothing alike Fortnite actually has a decent story and gets content every few weeks instead of twice a year oh and not to mention Fortnite is FREE
The bigger you get, the easier it is to lose your way and the passion you started out with. This is sadly all too common nowadays.
E&E has an issue, going from Multiplayer to Single player, when you switch from your online character via the character wheel, switch to Michael, Franklin, Trevor, the switch is super slow. It's bugged or something! I made a support ticket with Rockstar. They asked for a video of the issue & make the video unlisted, so i did. The video still has no views after they asked for a video after a week & my ticket says solved!😧
Oh, the bug called a stop glitch in certain game modes that assholes use and claim "its part of the game"
Lol that's rockstar for you my guy, it's GTA by design
On PC they added more time to switch in the last DLC "The Contract" and for PS5 they forgot to don't do the same 🤦🏽♂️🥴 When i noticed that i was pretty shocked with +8000 hours on Steam... ScamStar Games
That *might* have something to do with the game trying to unload the Online mode assets when entering Story mode. That's my hunch on what the issue could be.
@@genmeriphoton7655 hopefully Rockstar fix it.
Hearing darkspace come up with negative alliterations for the deflated edition is pure gold
I’ve seen over half of these videos that you included in the fantastic opening montage, so I know I’m in for a good video!
This is great critique so far. I want to add onto the "shark card" section by elaborating on just how little they've done to actually "expand and enhance" GTA Online...even before the Playstation 4 and Xbox One relaunches.
Ever since GTA Online came out, I distinctly remember seeing all these rumors being spread around that Rockstar was going to expand the map by adding new islands and cities and bridges, while expanding the playable area. I know you talked about that in a previous video, but let's take a moment to think about this:
Grand Theft Auto 5, the most profitable piece of ENTERTAINMENT in history for raking in between 4.5 to 6.5 billion dollars ever since it came out 9 years ago (from game sales alone), and Rockstar announced that they were going to be cannibalizing on old content to make room for new content. We've been stuck in Los Santos as a single island for the last 9 years. They're telling us that they can make updates that add overpriced vehicles and property which gate-keep mediocre missions, but they can't expand the playable map area for said missions to take place? Let alone upgrade the game to use servers instead of Peer-To-Peer connections?
Seriously.
I hate when Rockstar fanboys still defending their greedy practices, and their blind with the horrible things that Rockstar have done, releasing GTA Trilogy in an unfinished state, releasing GTA 5 on next-gen with barely any update, and worse, taking out the modding community when those people has passion than the developers itself. Great video Dark Space, can't wait for the next part of this video, keep it up.
I wonder what they get from simping a greed company...
Clout? No
Money? No
New game? No
So what
I know, look up for CHRISMENENDEZ’s comment, there’s some bitch called ChloeWade
The only 2 points I disagree with in this video is the "Rockstar re-released GTAV 3-4 times/ supported GTA V for 9 years" and the "It's good Rockstar announced a new GTA".
For the first one, I ask why is it a bad thing for a studio to support a game people are still playing? No other company or game is hated for continuing to be supported. Nobody complains that Mojang is still supporting Minecraft since 2011. People are excited for Minecraft's new updates. Nobody complains that DC Universe Online and Warframe have been actively supported since 2012. Or Siege since 2015. Hell, World of Warcraft is still going even after being released in 2004 on PC. So why is it wrong for Rockstar to support a game people are still playing? When Bungie released Destiny 2 in 2016, people complained it was worse than Destiny 1 so Destiny 2 was eventually updated to be more like Destiny 1.
Even the number of releases isn't a bad thing. Nobody complained when GTASA was re-released 16 times so far.
As for the "it's good that Rockstar announced a new GTA", I'd argue it's not because all it does is get fans even more antsy now that that info is out. And in a few years, you'll have people getting even more angry that there's no more info on the game. Look Bethesda with TES6.
It would have been better for Rockstar to stay silent on GTA6 until it really was close to release.
@@FraserSouris People are hardly mad at Bethesda for TES VI. They did stated few times TES VI is after Starfield. So we were expecting waiting, TES VI teaser was however far more detailed and with passion aimed at fans of TES then Rockstar just coming out and saying "Ah yeah .. we umm ... are doing GTA VI someday too." I watched TES VI trailer and I was happy, it was well put with tons of these nitpicky details I know Bethesda for. Rockstar just saying at odd hour via social media how they will do one day GTA VI is ... not inspiring. It feels like they only cared to reassure investors, 0 care for actual game and it's potential playerbase. And it's GTA. The game is loosely based on irl but in parody manner.
Compare it to TES where Betha is supposed to do whole Hammerfell - majority of which was never before featured in any TES game and they have to explore lore for Yokuda, which is again having bits accross all games but never to any large amount due to games being not focused on subject. What GTA VI has to do ? Probably copy Miami from irl as map, write story and just slap everywhere satire. Except I am not sure if it's satire anymore when company trully behaves like it irl. The only hurdle would be engine, but Rockstar had so many years to figure that out. TES is usually generation defining game, so people are okay with Bethesda releasing game when it's ready - TES is always piece of art at core.
Rockstar though ... they clearly have no respect for their IP (given Defective Edition mutilating not just one but three their games), their fans (or promises to the latter - what happened to singleplayer dlc's to GTA V ?) and they hardly care even for promises to investors.
*You forgot about the predatory practices in the casino, where NPCs were winning left and right subconsciently making the player think they would win too.*
Good for me I gladfully spent ~60 bucks on a bunch of shooters like BPM, DUSK, ULTRAKILL and DOOM Eternal. Way more worth my time, and I learned indie titles / small publishers are the most creative.
These guys used to rule the gaming world.
Remember how every new GTA Game was setting a new standard?
Yeah, the current Rockstar isn't the one that we knew.
They still run gaming (aside from fortnite)
for real. it was a huge step to 4 and then fucking about since. RDR2 included. it feels like an expensive waste of time.
And I was hooked on rdr1.
I really really really doubt gta 6 will be as iconic or good
@@King-Beezy naah dude, they might be making loads of money of kids stealing their parents credit card but they haven't really been relevant for years..
@@King-Beezy no shit gtao is one of the most overatted games. Dare Id say more than minecraft and Fortnite.
You could see that coming since 2013-2014 seeing how the Shark Cards worked.
I remember already feeling like it was heading towards the pay to play, with 80 bucks of Shark Cards buying you little to nothing in the game
and that was the early updates, before the first Heists.
Thank god I got disgusted so early and got out from the Online.
The solo mode is still nice though, but that was before GTA Online got to their heads.
6:15 I'm really glad you told me to hit fullscreen, that immediately immersed me back into the video and I have to give you props for that
Is that sarcasm
These edits are absolutely incredible! It's insane how far Space has come!
These comments are absolutely incredible! It's insane how far Flying Tankist has come!
Ironically, i remember when i started to voice some complaints about the problems with GTAO, mostly regarding it's grindy nature, broken economy and predatory microtransactions in some videos and forums back in 2015-16. Everyone would just call me a hater and say that i was bad at the game. In fact, the people blindly defending R* and the overall toxicity was so strong that i just quit GTAO for good ( wasn't having fun anymore anyway, didn't need the free toxicity and aggressive behavior on top ).
The only shame is that it took so long for people to notice and this fight to #saverockstargames may be a losing one already.
I agree. And what's worse it's mostly young children who shouldn't even be playing the game to begin with who defends rockstar because they dont know any better.
Then when you call them out as well as rockstar they get pissed then they attack you then next thing you know you get a bunch of idiots getting angry because a "dude backed up with Info" calls out the truth not even that but as soon as people call them out they still get mad, like we are trying to get a "company" to actually make new games instead of having a fat gold bar up their a** while we bow down the people who are toxic and support R* for screwing people are kissing their feet and warming up to them, while everyone that's been waiting 9 years for a new game are still calling them out.
Sad thing is rockstar covers this up not just them but take two, they then attack the modding community they get their butts heard if Johnny here tells them their game sucks or is waste of money, next the sue some modders because the made the game better, and yet they cant even do their jobs right, they higher a moblie company that doesn't know what the hell their doing released the "definitive edition" and its complete shit like someone just took a giant dump on a plate and called it dinner and served it to the customer, you call this a game it's not a game it's a bugged out unpolished and laggy game that looked like wasn't worked on and was rushed that's not a game that's just being lazy.
Another thing I can't stand about rockstar is their constant oh were developing a game when we already know they aren't developing a game and I bet they payed some media outlet to spread rumors who knows maybe because were calling them out so much that they're actually waking up and doing something. But that being said I highly doubt their doing anything from the past 9 years now almost closing to a decade for "GTA V" their not gonna make a new game because they're monopoly and games like saints row dont count because their games years ago gotten more worse. There is not other grand theft auto game and sad thing is there going to keep taking advantage over people as long as people keep purchasing their games or buying shark cards. #rockstarisajoke #saverockstargames [stop supporting rockstar games stop supporting scammed video games]
@@coolfightergamer what I hate the most is that they are so focused on milking GTA online that they refuse to update are or even acknowledge their other titles like red dead redemption 2 online like at this point Rockstar are the parents gta online is the spoiled rotten child and red dead redemption 2 lives outside because they forgot him at the store for the 20th time.
And I suffered the same thing you did bud I saw the trailer and commented “so it’s the exact same game but 9% better graphics and nothing else new and I’m supposed to pay full price for something I already own on 2 of my consoles instead of making gta v for the fifth time why don’t you actually make a new game it’s been 10 years already and all you’ve given us is GTA V and red dead redemption 2 that you refuse to give any attention to and the Gta trilogy which was so bad parts of the game where actually unplayable not to mention the hideous character models. And I was met with replies basically defending rockstar and claiming I’m just a hater or rockstar is doing the best they can you should be happy about this. At that point I officially gave up.
@@ToxicVex267 I know how you feel, and it's so frustrating that people don't do their research the ones that defend rockstar games clearly dont care what some true fans say or people who have facts backed up, I also feel like the trilogy was a massive failure they try to remove the originals then they get called out for it after the entire game was shit.
Then they bring back the original titles and then they brush it off and say we should be grateful which to add to the cherry ontop they screwed us over by releasing the same game 9 years later still no map expansion, no single player expansion same map, same San Andreas, same character's were is San fierro were is north yankton as a fully explorable town nothing but yeah people that defend rockstar need to understand that we all been waiting years almost a decade now if a company doesn't care about their games then there's a problem.
But again I agree it's sad that we have to see not just them doing this but other gaming companies worse part is microtransactions do nothing but then make a gaming company get lazy and then greedy if at most greedy they only start caring about their blood money.
💯% agree this game seems to have one of the most dense and arrogant fan bases in gaming.
@@marshallpanora3171 not just that but a lot of them being young who shouldn't even be playing the game to begin with
With such a huge chunk of GTA Online being peer-to-peer, you have to wonder why they even bothered to shut down the 360/PS3 versions.
I always love how you place the things you're showing us in the world of GTA cities. Other youtubers would just throw articles full screen and expect us to read it all. Love this channel!!
Glad u made a video about this. I was heavily affected by take 2s greedy take over. I was lvl 887 and had made over 750 mil legit grinding and I spent about 300 bucks rl money on shark cards between 2014-2016 until I stared grinding endlessly. I had every vehicle apartment and all businesses fully upgraded making 4 mil a day I had it all…After walking up to an apartment and clicking a trade in value of 2 million dollars that rockstar was offering, I got my entire account reset to 0 with no money or status. I sent multiple emails pleading for my account and all I got was automated messages saying it was permanent. I played the game endlessly for 7 1/2 years and they just took it all away for their mistake. They purged the community to make sure u buy more of their product. I’ll never trust or will be a fan of this company ever again. I fondly remember the times before gta 5 as a golden era in my mind of what I was a fan of. But they changed. They are not the same company any more and with that I’ve walked away. All they did was give me freedom by removing me from their greedy un cared for world.
“This -place- Dev, ain’t no such thing as civilized. It’s man, so in love with greed... He has forgotten himself and found only appetites.” - Dutch, RDR2
This is what happens when an organization becomes so successful that they loose track of their purpose.
The user base ultimately determine the level of service they are willing to accept. They have collectively decided that will accept the bare minimum and they get it.
Going to for sure watch entire series! It's sad how Rockstar has changed
Unfortunately, as long as it's profitable they'll not change. Stop buying their trash with hope, instead - wait with doubt. Vote with your dollar, folks. Consumers set the bar when we wield our money properly.
nah that won't work or at least it doesn't work without everyone who continues to play gta online stop playing it which is impossible since people won't stop playing gta online and pay for their services just because you ask them to. Thanks to this (to the masses who give their money) Rockstar is condemned as a company that only wants the money of the masses and that does not care about anything else literally they became a company like EA only interested in selling the same game and exploit their franchises to the fullest (EA with fifa and Rockstar with gta) the only thing left for us is to support independent companies so that one day we can see a rival that is better than gta.
Ocean's editing skills are first class.
They succumbed to corporate greed they used to mock. Someone's raking in the cash and they're not going to waste a penny on improving the game or the player's experience if they don't see the payoff. They don't care if they ruin Rockstar's reputation in the process, they'll sell up and move on when they've milked the cash cow dry.
I've been convinced for some time that Rockstar's remaining programmers are 3rd rate at best, with all the errors that keep creeping in.
The market is ripe for another studio to come in and snatch Rockstar's laurels.
You are a legend. These videos are made so well. You even made a music video, truly talented.
Rockstar forgot that without us, their community, they are nothing. We made their success
Thanks for having SomeOrdinaryGamers in this video. Great video dude. Hours of effort and hard work went into the production. Keep it up man!
EXTREMELY well done video man, haven't finished it yet but just the beginning the editting work and everything is fantastic!
The part in the expanded and enhanced trailer where Trevor says "We are literally gonna make out like bandits on this" must be a sneaky way of R* saying how they know they're fucking us over again and they just don't care at this point
I actually had an argument with a friend over Rockstar's mistreatment over Red Dead/and how they manage GTA. He's just, "Oh you think you can do better? Make it yourself, then." - obviously I can't without the tools or access necessary to make a company, study game design, etc. but I shot back with, "Give me Strauss-levels of money and the prep time necessary, a proper crew team and I gladly will hold you to your word." That's how bad it is lol.
Your friend’s retort is literally so stupid, with that idea, we legit can’t have an opinion on anything. We can’t say anything about the food restaurants give us or the music we listen to or the movies we watch because we didn’t make those products ourselves. We can still evaluate the quality of said products because we can know about what it’s made of, and WE are the ones who pay for it. Now sure we should be respectful of the people who make these things since we didn’t put in the work for that ourselves, but that doesn’t mean we can’t evaluate the quality of the product.
Like you can’t say Morbius wasn’t a good movie because we didn’t make it ourselves or something? BULL-SHIT
Everybody is stanning over Dan houser and other writers/VA, when we have all played these games for nearly 20 years. As seen in video essays its not exactly the story that makes gta gta, its the satirical but not completely over the top world like with Saints row. I dont think its impossible for new faces to create GTA worthy games.
"Make it yourself"
A very stupid thing to say. Nothing is above critique. And games, like all art made into products, SHOULD be critiqued
Damn it's gonna be hard and not a fun time but find new friends, period
@Jaquan Kelsor That is such a pathetic attempt to avoid critique on a product
Man, I remember when GTAV came out. Now it’s funny to think that a 13 year old who played the game at release is now 23 years old today. Then I remember that I’m 22.
I was tempted many times to buy the Shark Cards in GTA Online, but thankfully, I never caved in and just managed to find peeps that actually gave a damn of me being heist host. With Cayo, I never have to worry bout GTA+ at all. Hell, you're better off goibg with the Criminal Enterprise Starter Pack, coz that actually helps and you get a good few cars for free as well.
ima be honest I went down the chaotic path of duping like 200+ cars back in like 2017 after I learned about how missions were changed.
I never got banned because I very slowly got rid of them but I don’t recommend it
@@Xernitory neither Simeon the monkey-man nor duplicate glitches never helped me, so my only hope was to join whatever heist was available as a freelance crew-mate, a hired gunman of sorts to the highest bidder. So many failed setups and finales with randoms, no one joining me when I was heist crew-leader, I was slowly giving up, but then I finally got peeps that were willing to help me with the heists, to which eventually I had enough to buy the Arcade, which then lead me to Cayo, to where I became independent, no longer needing to rely on others for help.
There have been times where I've been tempted to buy shark cards and gold bars but I'm able to resist. I would rather grind Cayo and just not play RDO.
@@StuartLugsden it’s unfortunate what happened to Red Dead Online. I’d like to play it, but personally, I just found it hard to get into. Hopefully in the future it’ll get the love and respect it’ll get, but as for now, just keep holding on.
@@st.paddymad7085 Theres no point unless they remove the grind and give it something major like more properties.
This is an absolute phenomenal effort and I'm looking forward to the next 3 parts! When you're finished all of them, will you edit them into one super video???
Every Single Problem With Rockstar Games: No GTA 6.
The end.
Hell yeah Muta is here, I'm gonna enjoy watching this
We need a new rockstar CEO. Someone with a heart
a better one like Dan Houser
And no money hungers, only pure creativities
Leslie Benzies is gone
And smart who really knows what's best for its customers.
the rock
Seems like everyone forgot about all these problems when the GTA VI trailer came out
Rockstar games have fallen so much, I guess it's true. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
To think that in an alternate timeline Rockstar died and we'd be blissfully unaware of what would become of the company
@@mystari4445 tbh if it died after gta 5 that would be the good ending.
@@asutxrner what about red dead redemption 2?
They fall after Dan Houser left the company
Honestly you can see what an underrated masterpiece Max Payne 3 was
Just finished playing that game yesterday
Rockstar was to us like Dutch was to Arthur..
«All them years»
- Arthur Morgan
The Rockstar we grew to love no longer exists. If we want them to change, we don't support their efforts to keep Online alive. We don't give them the satisfaction or the money.
It's too bad there will always many mindless consumer zombies who burn their money on stupid bullshit like shark cards. These types of people will forever enable Rockstar to be the greedy money mongering corporation it has devolved into no matter how much fans of Rockstar's ips with an iq above room temperature lash out against it's obnoxious greed.
I'm sure these will be covered in Part 2, but just incase, the SaveRedDeadOnline movement is a definite must to be covered. Also the futuristic vehicles could use a deeper look (I know it has been discussed alot but it has potential to fit into the series), not to mention how when Rockstar compensated PC players by giving away the OG GTAs, they were broken on PCs running Windows 10 without mods. The OG San Andreas Mobile Port, etc.
Fun fact: In the definitive edition switch version, while driving a car, you can tap on the places where the buttons would be on the mobile ports and it would control the car.
Was waiting for this Collab. And you guys did not disappoint. Keep up the content guys :)
Love how your videos are always made with so much effort. Keep up the good work!
The song in the end was FIREEEEE!
I am very scared of Rockstars future, they genuinely made some memorable games back in the days, now they don't even care about the ppl who play these games, like literally it makes me sad.
So cool to see you guys collab 🔥
This is the truest news we'll ever get about all of this.
Just want to leave this here:
The Megalodon card that costs $100USD and $80CAD costs only $13USD in Argentina. *When bought on steam
This wouldn't work on console would it? 😕
@@alexg2083 Nope, it only works if you buy it through Steam and as far as I know it applies automatically to your account.
@@u0aol1 Thanks for the response I appreciate it 👍🤜🤛
@@alexg2083 No worries mate 👍👌
I can only imagine how Dan Houser, Terry Donovan, Jamie King, Gary Forman, Leslie Benzies, Lazlow Jones and everyone else who has been with Rockstar since the start and left since feels about the state of the company. I bet you all of them are glad to be out of there and wondering when the worst is to come.
To be fair, Houser and co weren't going to magically make the game better. Especially given House and Laslow are writers (and not even a good one on GTA games) and not a programmer.
If GTA6 is going to suffer from its development issues, it would have suffered even if all the original heads were there since the bulk of the work is done by the regular devs working on the game.
Hell, given what we know about how Houser and Benzlies operated, it might actually be better that they're gone since their replacements might stop constantly rebooting everything.
Quote:
"This has been a common occurrence in the last years of development on a Rockstar game. Dan and Sam Houser, the co-founders of Rockstar and creative leads on Red Dead Redemption 2, are renowned for rebooting, overhauling, and discarding large chunks of their games. Through eight years of development on Red Dead Redemption 2, the Housers and other directors have made a number of major changes to the story, the core gameplay mechanics, and the game’s overall presentation. "
Houser and Co were notorious for rebooting large chunks of their games. Their approach was one of the issues with Rockstar.
@@FraserSouris "(and not even a good one on GTA games" thats where you're completely wrong. I agree with everything else tho.
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I'd argue the GTA games' writing is much more inconsistent because they often mash up various different stories and tones, as well as trying to keep the player happy in a video game. As a result, the stories lack the impact they could have.
Like, take GTA Vice City for example. Its story is pretty much just Scarface in video game form. It gets it right that Tommy should be a terrible person like Montana. But in Scarface, Montana dies as a result of the growing paranoia. But in Vice City, Tommy gets to eliminate his rivals and life happily ever after. As a result, Vice City's story lacks the impact of its source material because it ignores the point of the story that Montana's life was screwed because of his choices.
Or in GTA SA, that game's early story takes its cues from films like Menace II society. And to be fair, does a good job in the early game by having CJ do more "mundane" missions in the hood while seeing how Tenpenny has his thumb over him and how drugs are ruining the lives of people. But fast forward later and CJ is breaking into Area 51 and hijacking planes mid-flight. It makes it harder to take Tenpenny seriously as a threat later when CJ has canonically done things comic book superheroes can't do.
GTA 4's story suffers because it's just the film Brother but with GTA's gameplay. GTAV's story suffers because it can't decide what to take seriously. For example It treats Micheal's family like blanket stereotypes. Amanda is that stereotypical shirl wife. Tracey that stereotypical teenage girl. Jimmy that stereotypical gamer boy. But then has a major arc dedicated to Micheal reuniting with them. This lacks impact because it treats Micheal's family as blanket stereotypes, it never allows these characters to develop or become likable so we the audience have no reason for them to reunite.
Even RDR2, while the actual narrative is fantastic, hampers its storytelling by having the gameplay feel vestigial. You have so many missions where you just boringly follow an NPC to a spot or engage in pointless filler shootouts. So stuff like the final shootout at the end of chapter 3 loses a lot of its impact if a random carriage robbery 2 missions ago has you killing the same amount of people.
@@FraserSouris It’s a video game don’t take it too seriously.
@@StuartLugsden but we can’t say they have good writing if we don’t take them seriously
We should come together and whenever Rockstar tweets we fill their reply section with this video. It's not very likely that it'd get through to rockstar because they're robots who don't pay attention to anything their community does, but it might spread the word more for people who don't truly understand the extent to which rockstar have become one of the worst companies in the history of gaming.
That'll go about as well as #SaveRedDeadOnline
They don't give a fuck. People who actually want a semblance of quality from them aren't their target audience anymore, they just want morons who either blindly fanboy them because of past success and constantly give money because of it or a minority of rich people who constantly spend money on the game.
@@brapa1190 Rockstar hired Grove Street Games because they are too focused on their main cash cow, GTA Online, which earns millions of dollars every day, they're basically printing money at this point. Also GSG's entire portfolio consisted of mobile games, and terrible mobile/console ports, which means you can hire them for very little money for "AAA remasters" and they'll take it to diversify their portfolio. Rockstar was never concerned with the quality of these games, and GSG wasn't capable of upholding the quality either. Its the perfect partnership for Rockstar, financially. Rockstar will probably partner up with GSG a few more times and make easy money before it starts to affect them, at which point GSG will once again rename itself, and we'll see the whole thing happen all over again.
You got 140K Subs with 20 videos, an average of 7K per an upload. That is impressive, keep up the quality work Dark Space.
Even if literally everything is fixed on the Trilogy: Bullshit edition (bugs, poor animation etc.) it will still be a piece of junk. These games need full remakes, not 30 seconds of development just SLIGHTLY improving the aiming system. I guess I'm picky as a modern gamer. These remasters need to feel at least as good to play as GTA 4 if not 5.
I disagree, the gameplay for those three original games still mostly holds up (apart from on foot combat for 3 and Vice city), all they needed was an actual good graphical update that didn't make the games worse in nearly every way possible but greed said otherwise apparently
@@lesbianduck7862 You need glasses if you think those remasters look worse. So much improvements on lighting etc.
@@corporateshill3225 lighting and overall graphics look mostly better yeah but the entire art style and attention to detail is completely gone, for example Liberty city has completely lost its atmosphere and is now some sunny bright city instead of the dark and moody city it's supposed to be.
Upgraded modern graphics aren't always an improvement
It wasn’t rockstar who made it. If they did it would have been better
@@corporateshill3225 They only look better from a distance. If you look closely, you'll notice that every city looks and feels the same. There are collision issues, with some objects being invisible and flying away. Grass and leaves float off the ground. Whenever you're in quiet places, its absolutely silent, no ambient sounds (which were in the original). The list goes on and on really.
It's kinda sad really. From people like me growing up in the mid to late 2000s absolutely fucking loving Rockstar for the stuff they made to saying, "AGAIN BRUH!?"
I'd like to talk about the awful defense of *"It's a good business tactic!"*
If the only measurement used to qualify anything as a "good business tactic" is that it makes money, then A LOT of awful things can be classified as such. Mugging someone in a back alley can be considered a business tactic.
Don't think like a GTA griefer. That whole "the game allows me to do it, so it's fine" mentality seems to be seeping into our own reality. Just because Rockstar CAN charge you, the consumer, an unreasonable price for an equally unreasonable product severely lacking in quality, DOES NOT MEAN that it's ok!
Rockstar Games and Take 2 Interactive are grievers; they do what they want without facing any consequences of their own AND their actions are always at the expense of others.
Let that sink in...
I'm surprised those mfers haven't faced a class-action lawsuit by now.
@@adriatical9016 Right? It just SOUNDS illegal (and it SHOULD be)!
"excuse me sir, excuse me, what are you listening to right now?"
"ah damn i'm listening to *checks phone* "Rockstar Lost It's Way" by darkspace"
At this point I actually really hope that some company just makes their own GTA. So that Rockstar finally falls off their monopolistic throne. Let's be honest, we all stay with Rockstar only because there's no other comparable GTA-like game. I really do hope that some day a big company makes their own game and makes it better than Rockstar. They need to realize that they can't just do what they want. But yeah at the moment they can very well do what they want. Cause we as players have no alternative. But maybe we will one day let's hope for that 🤷🏻♂️
This is not fucking true. Saints row has better sandbox and missions, Watch dogs has better ai, mission design and gameplay variety, sleeping dogs has better story and combat yet yall ignore it.
@@hawken796 Lmao Saints Row was turned to shit a loong time ago. Watch dogs is a boring tech weirdo game. Sleeping dogs was released a century ago and had MANY issues. Only trully competitive games were Mafia and Driver but they were also turned to shit and never got multiplayer so they wouldn't last for years..
@@CptAngelKGaming I can agree to disagree since in my experience Sleeping Dogs was pretty amazing.. However, I share the same sentiment that Volition really squandered their chance at serious competition when they began focusing off the people who appealed to their game in the first place... good that seemingly a lot somehow still appealed to their bonkers attitude but still really lost the original edge they had. I really regret buying 3&4 because I just can't get good into it 😭
@@CptAngelKGaming Yet i would take Saints Row 1 and 2, WatchDogs 1 and 2 ( even freaking Legion ) and Sleeping Dogs over any of the bullshit R* spews out in their " updates " for the only 2 games they made in the last decade. Only the story in these games is actually worth playing and that can only carry 2 games for so long before it gets boring or repetitive.
I'm calling it right now, GTA 6 will be the next Cyberpunk 2077/No Man's Sky of this generation, my expectations are already on the ground, but i don't doubt R* will make them go even lower.
Saints Row2 is my favorite open world game of all time hopefully the fix/patch for the PC version comes out soon
the effort put into 3d editing this video is better than the whole remastered gta trilogy and gta e&e combined
Rockstar has really become the DSP of the video game world, living off the fame, glory and money, of the past.
DSP?
@@jishan6992 Darksydephil.
@@jishan6992 i'd guess digital signal processors, which are chips used in synthesizers, or whatever that made or modified sound. those have been on decline and newer and more efficient technologies like fpga is taking its place.
Rdr2?
I feel if ubisoft focused their efforts, stopped being scummy and took advantage of the love for the watchdogs series they could seriously contend and possibly beat rockstar at their own game given the current state of the company
In my opinion watch dogs and watch dogs 2 were great, Legion doesn't seem that impressive though to be fair I didn't get to play it
Stop whining 😂
Absolutely, i actually really enjoyed Watch Dogs 1, but since then, it became cringe and woke and then the third one was like apocalyptic dystopia so... idk what was up with that lol. But i would love to see Ubisoft come back and make a game similar to what Watch Dogs 1 should've really been, put in a lot of money and maybe not copy/paste buildings and stuff and they'd be making TONS of sales from that, no question... but they won't do that, i'm sure.
@@DeadSpacedOut Ubisoft cares more about ez sales and targeting a large audience rather than actually attempting to make a decent game like the AC series at this moment in time has no direction at all only “how to make our games sale” which they reach the conclusion of making the game a large RPG just because it will appeal to more people so its very predictable to think that with Watch Dogs they will just try their best to make the game sell rather than actually try to stay true to the original formula
@@sigmanerd8553 Yeah, Ubisoft has fallen from grace as most companies have... they used to make such great titles like Far Cry 2, Trackmania, Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon (the good ones), Rainbow Six Vegas, Assassin's Creed was one of my all time favorites back in the day and even Watch Dogs 1... i know it didn't live up to most standards and such but i never saw the trailer, i just bought the game cuz it looked similar to GTA lol and i thought it was fun and i loved the Minigames and stuff. My main issue was that i couldn't fly a heli or plane or anything, but other than that, i rather enjoyed the first one and i really wish they'd make the next Watch Dogs a reboot, make it similar to the first one but do what people really wanted and what was promised... and also add air vehicles lol, i like my open world games to have no boundaries.
Man you really know how to make quality content
I agree on everything its so weird how a studio can fall on the dark and be so easy about it
Its maybe becouse the more loved they are the more fast they lose contact
Something I always remember about rockstar is that they love their controversy. Part of me has always been sitting here thinking, they couldn't be ruining their reputation on purpose? Would they literally let gta V burn to almost make people stop playing? Dunno maybe that's me making excuses for laziness, all I know is that the old company who would put things into games on the chance of it getting picked up by the media doesn't feel like this same company. Is it a farce or just real laziness tho
I know what you mean, a part of me was thinking, maybe they're being quiet because they're about to drop something huge on us and blow us away, maybe GTA V Expanded & Enhanced would be huge, new story missions, new maps, vehicles, new cities etc! But, now we know it wasn't close to that 😅... Unfortunately I think they've become a lazy, cash grab company ☹ I don't think they're entirely to blame though, I think T2 have too much input on how they're doing things now
@@doublelifeharvey9044 yeah I was thinking
I hate rockstar for letting this happen but we need to point fingers at T2, they have reports of greediness, mismanagement, microtransaction garbage and more. Look how they’ve ruined NBA 2k
@@JonathanPaspula 100%, I fully believe they are to blame for a lot of what's happening I'm the GTA world right now 👌
Rockstar went from Legendary to Toxic real quick.
Kinda like Bethesda
Not mad just disappointed
GTA Dookie Edition is the equivalent of asking for chocolate ice cream with sprinkles, and instead they take a shit on your plate, put on the sprinkles and say “what’re you whining about? We gave you the sprinkles!”
Whenever I see you say that the Defecitive Edition is this and that, I'm always reminded of the brain-dead fan base who I tried to warn about the cluster turd coming our way to not buy, but to be down voted to oblivion is just beyond me now.
These downvoters could possible be the same people who thinks that "Saints Row copied GTA". But either way, just shows that blind loyalty can bite you in the ass in the future.
@@genmeriphoton7655 saints row was made before GTA tbh saints row was the best non online game my fav one was space ships invading and you had so much cars and shit
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I know, but the last I checked, Saints Row's development were made public sometime after GTA San Andreas was announced, hence the confusion. I respect your opinion though.
The feelings mutual man the fan base is brain dead
@@beepboopbeepbeepboop744 Saints Row began development in 2003 for the PS2. GTA came out in 1997 for PS1, MS DOS and Microsoft Windows.
So no, Saints Row didn’t come before GTA. Stop chatting shit.