The haters need to be educated on how this works before they make the comments about "snake oil" or stuff like "just press the pedal faster". Throttle by wire systems used to just be a 1:1 analog signal from the pedal, and the ECU's job was to keep up with the engines demands based on input from the engine sensors. Now the pedal sends digital codes to the ECU first, but it's not 1:1 from the foot pedal - everything, including the throttle position, is controlled by the ECU. The pedal is an electronic device is and is just one device of many that sends digital codes to the ECU that tell the engine how to respond. The ECU reads a digital code from the pedal and all other sensors and interprets how to make the engine and transmission work together to reduce emissions and provide a smooth drivable response (thanks to EPA and NHTSA). Throttle sensitivity boosters do more than just amplify the signal from the pedal, and it's done in a way that can not be mimicked by just increasing the speed in which you press the pedal - it talks to the ECU and then the ECU changes everything about how the truck responds - which means the fuel injector ramps, waste gates (boost), shift characteristics, etc. Very simply, it's a "dumb" tuner with fixed parameters, and it is not recorded as an ECU change because it's just an input to the ECU, not like a tuner that changes the ECU (which is why it can not be detected by dealers for warranty issues and it's allowed for sale in CA). Think of it this way: your gas pedal sends signals to the ECU that mimics it's position in order of depression - 1, 2, 3 ,4, 5 and so on. It can only be in that order no matter how fast you press the pedal down, and based on that input order, the ECU will not go past a certain ramp up speed no matter how fast you push down the pedal. it will be very close to 1:1 if you press it normally; but the faster you press it down, the ramp curve slows down because the ECU is waiting for the inputs from the emissions system and trans to catch up. But that process is based in part on the digital codes coming from the pedal - in very simple laymens terms, the booster sort of changes the send the order to 1, 3, 5, 7... , or 1,5, 10, 15.. and the ECU is tricked into thinking it has to play catch up, which takes priority over the other emissions and fuel economy inputs. That's way over simplified, but the point is don't think this just increases the analog amplitude of a signal from the gas pedal, because that would obviously have no effect on an ECU controller car. I could show how it works with with math and graphs and stuff, but i've already probably bored everyone to death with my tech dork description, so just try the device and see for yourself.
Drive a BMW diesel and anyone should be able to understand the throttle body and pedal is not 1:1, so much delay it's insane... not turbo lag. (forums say something to do with torque management?) Hoping to buy one of these soon for the ole bimmer.
i actually bought this for my 2013 gmc sierra because I didn't like the lag between the throttle body and the pedal, and I must say it has made a huge difference. Its like driving a whole different truck and the price isn't bad at all for what you get, it has over 32 different settings for you to find the one you you like.
I finally installed the Pedal Commander in my 18 Ecodiesel. After a few weeks of driving around. I have a few things to say. First Fiat/Ram what the hell? The difference is night and day. There had been a few times I feared pulling out in traffic. I thought my truck was too slow in getting up to speed. Until this video, I never knew about the voltage thing. Now my truck is a really good daily driver. Thx for the video Jay. PS I bought my module through Amazon for $210
How is everything now, after 1 year installed? I have a 2015 Ecodiesel - deleted EGR, cats, res, DEF, after market air intake, Green Diesel ECM - and I had it in +2 and everything was great until I was working in -40degC on night shift and left it idling all night; I started getting a Service Electronic Throttle code which completely disabled the electronic throttle. I luckily had a OBD2 code reader and cleared the code and discovered that not allowing the truck to idle for 8-12 hrs prevented the issue. It still happens sometimes if cruising in neighborhoods at idle for 10+ minutes. I haven't removed the booster, just changed it to stock settings and it hasn't caused issues since.
I just hooked mine up. It has taken a dangerously under accelerating truck and made it a properly accelerating truck. I was seriously regretting my eco diesel purchase, this has changed my mind. Thanks for your awesome videos. Now off to work to save for the King's.
Don't take your ecodiesel I. For update they will detune it if you have the first release model .my friends is totally stock but has not been to the dealer for the so called update/detune
Good video.....been using pedal commander for over a year...money well spent. I put it to stock for my wife when she drives and can't imagine driving without it now. I have exhaust and a cold air intake to go along with pedal commander and runs like a Hemi should ......truck just wants to go fast.
People who like the pedal commander or any of the other clones have no idea how a throttle by wire system works. When you press down on the gas pedal your ecu sees the signal then sends your throttle body instructions on how far to open. The pedal commander attaches to the gas pedal and alters the signal that goes from the gas pedal to the ecu. The problem people are trying to fix with the device is the so called lag they feel when they press their gas pedal down and when the car actually starts moving. For some reason people think that the signal going from the gas pedal takes a long time to travel to the ecu and that is why they have a delay. The signal actually reaches the ecu instantly and the signal going from the ecu to the throttle body is instant as well. So why is there a delay? Because the automotive makers built it into the software. Its called torque management. If you slam your foot down to the floor what happens is the ecu says, nope, and gradually opens the throttle body not giving it full power right away because it doesnt want you to spin the tires and lose control of the car. Pretty much every modern car does this. So what does the pedal commander do? It lies to the ecu as to how far youre pressing the gas pedal. So if you press it 30 percent the ecu may see 50. So by the time youre at 70 to 80 to 90 percent the ecu is seeing 100 percent full throttle making it feel like the car is accelerating faster. The problem with this is that now the pedal resolution has been greatly lowered making it more light switch like and the 1 to 1 throttle pedal to output ratio has been thrown out which makes it feel less like the old throttle by cable systems which were 1 to 1 ratios. No matter what setting you have on the pedal commander the ecu will still slow down the rate at which your throttle opens since this product installs before the ecu signal and not after and torque management is still there. My opinion is that this product and all its clones are snake oil. These companies prey on people who dont understand how a modern throttle by wire system works. It doesnt get rid of any lag because there is none to get rid of. It will do nothing to how fast your car accelerates to sixty. Dont waste your money on this huge rip off. To get rid of that delay you have to get a tune which will remove torque management. Also, a tune can alter your throttle to output ratio to whatever your want making the pedal commander totally useless. Yes if you have both a tune and a pedal commander at the same time you have literally just flushed 300 bucks down the drain. This pedal commander is worth 30 bucks at most. My RC radio controller can do this exact same thing except I get to totally customize what my throttle does with a visual graph and lcd display plus I have atleast 20 more functions and its wireless all for 40 bucks. So please dont waste your money on this garbage product.
Torque management is fine on some vehicles. The above included. But they have this stuff on the newer Subarus now, the non turbo ones. And in the case of the Subaru half throttle from a stop you actually pickup speed quicker than a full throttle smash (Comes up within a few seconds)
I have a Hemi Ram with an edge tune, K&N CAI, BBK shorty headers, flowmaster outlaw super 10 exhaust, Shift kit, line booster, and 355 gears with the pedal commander. I no longer use the pedal commander. It makes the truck TOO fast as far as throttle response. Literally it works as advertised and I am fully satisfied with it, but I need to not replace tires every 30000 miles. The plus 4 sport option makes the truck seem like a beast. 0-10% throttle input equals 0-100% normal throttle input. Very great for reaction times and off the line acceleration. Whenever I let someone drive the truck, I put the pedal commander to sport+ and +4 Everyone says its the fastest most powerful vehicle they have ever driven
I love it; it works great on my Tacoma SR 4x4! Basically it controls throttle response. It doesn't add power to your engine, but allows you to access it more or less quickly by varying the strength of the electronic signal sent to the ECU. I do everything from towing a 3,500lb travel trailer in the lowest Eco mode and get as much as 15mpg, to off roading where at times I want less response because it's so bumpy you don't want "crisp" throttle respinse, or sometimes more to power thru a mud bog. I have 33" tires as opposed to the stock 29" tires that came on the truck, and factoring in the corrected mileage, I get 18mpg city with a constant 300lbs of crap in the bed, a roof rack, no front air dam, etc. It's better than a "chip" because of it's choice of 39 different settings, doesn't violate your warranty, and you're not stuck with crappy mileage because you upped your horse power with a one-dimentional performance chip. I've been running it for a year and my comments are based on actual experience. Worth the money!
Very informative and unbias , now with this information I will purchase the pedal commander and hopefully remove that dead pedal syndrome my truck has Cheers Mate
I just installed the pedal commander in my mini cooper s and WOW what a difference... it's not the same car! Regular sport mode with the car in sport also screams off the line, it pulls so hard leaving the lights now.
I drove from Atlanta Georgia to St. Louis Missouri in my 2019 challenger r/t. I had the pedal on eco mode. I got 30mpg on the trip. I did get on it some too.
The eco mode on the pedal commander only delays the throttle response time while accelerating from a dead stop because that is when you burn or waste the most amount of fuel. Cruising on the highway it doesn't do anything, you could have had it in sport +4 the entire trip and still averaged 30 mpg. Eco mode is not doing something magical inside the engine to give you better fuel mileage it just slows the response of the throttle opening. My girlfriends 2015 Hyundai Tucson has Eco mode and the lag or delay from the pedal acceleration is so god awful in Eco mode we keep it off. My 1984 Dodge Power Ram has a 1:1 throttle response because it is a physical cable opening up the throttle and let me tell you the difference it makes when you mash your foot down is insane
Drove on the Pedal Commander in my challenger for a couple of months then it started to throw throttle position sensor warnings. It has been removed. The warnings have stopped completely.
I am grateful to have come across your review. My car which has a 2.0 i4, still has lag (even after doing a performance mod). What annoys me is when the rpm’s kick in over 2000 due to hill assist. If this makes for a more linear power flow, my decision is much easier.
DISCLAIMER this will make your truck accelerate as it should without smashing on the pedal. It will make it quicker not faster. If you want faster you will still need a tune with bolt ons.
Exactly what I was thinking, it's good for pedal response but that's it. The tuner is going to open up so much more plus increase pedal response time. If all you want is a better throttle time, then go for it.
Actually, even though it does not increase peak HP or Torque, it can give quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile times because it can get more power and torque to the ground earlier than you otherwise could. This gives higher cumulative power (area under the curve) by the end of the run, resulting in better times. There are TH-cam videos demonstrating this. Personally, I prefer the Sprint Booster, but they are both good units. Sprint Booster does not seem to have the lockup/freeze problem.
I know this is an older video, but can anyone tell me if it is ok to use the Pedal Commander in combination with the Range AFM disabler? I realize that they use completely different plug in ports, but I wasn’t sure if it would be “healthy “ for my truck to use both devices in combination. I hope that someone can answer my question. Thanks. Great review 👍👍
Jay flatout let me tell you everything you said about gas mileage better experience is all TRUTH i made a few videos saying the same thing my mpg was shit now its more reasonable this Pedal Commander is the way to go
I saw another video where some guys “killed” their engine because they kept on changing in the fly from the app and the commander itself. They mentioned the transmission slipping and shifting odd with a check engine light, but after turning it off for a couple of minutes while they pumped gas (full tank) the engine light stayed on, but the issues with shifting went away. They said in the instructions it says not to change on the fly but never mentioned what the engine light was. So if this were to happen, would disconnecting it just solve the issue ?
Thanks for the review! I just bought this with little research. I look forward to installing this with a cold air intake. I hope to cut some fuel consumption with these minor upgrades.
mine 2015 Dodge Grand caravan has terrible throttle gas pedal delay almost a full second every Dodge Grand caravan suffers with. I actually don't want more power nor do I want a touchy gas pedal, I would love a product to help get rid of some of that delay.
Doesn't make it faster. It makes it accelerate quicker. In a sense it redistributes the power you already have to be able to accelerate quicker. No horsepower added with this.
Thanks for the review. Very well done in an unbiased way. I just ordered mine today. I can't wait to get rid of that fall on your face pedal feeling!!!
I’ve been looking into this product but from my understanding it was made to make your peddle more quick and responsive to make it feel like more of a cable driven throttle body and reduced the lag of the electronic soo don’t really think it’s meant to be a performance mod but after seeing a 0-60 pull in a v6 definitely glad I got the hemi
I have the pedal commander in my 2019 challenger rt. It doesn't add horsepower but it makes it very snappy and faster response. In sport mode on the challenger and sport mode on the commander, it definitely responds very fast. I have also noticed it improved my stock muffler sound. Hope this helps.
This will probably be a great add on for us guys who live in Cali. I know this isn't a tuner, but getting any type of tuner in Cali is almost impossible because of emissions. If you have to get the tuner updated that is even a pain because the companies cannot legally ship it to Cali. Not to mention if your truck is newer you don't want to risk voiding your warranty.
Good review! Just getting ready to install mine in my 2019 Laramie. I already installed an S&B cold air intake and did a muffler delete so it sounds badass but being a lifted, heavy truck it needs a little help off the line and a little better fuel economy. Thanks again, looking forward to using mine!
Been using now on a 2012 ram 1500 4.7. for almost 3 years. It was the best improvement i have made besides tires.. Get rid of your goodyears and get anything after that.. Then get a pedal commander. It makes a weak 4.7 feel like a sports car. Also city +2 gives me better gas mileage then the factory settings do.
I loved my pedal commander but after having it installed for a few months I set it on the second most powerful setting worked fine till one day I punched it to get around a tractor trailer it fucked up and I had no pedal at all n a light came on in dash throttle sensor Sat on side of road took it off and pedal worked again. I don’t trust it now
I love all these keyboard mechanics who are either too broke to buy this, or too skeptical. I installed one of these and was shocked with how my truck woke up off the line. Don't listen to these donkeys who have no experience with Pedal Commander. They work. PERIOD.
Gracias Jay, Ram, oh yeah, and the pinche time you took to make your review was dam good, cause of your real time and action taken I'm ordering mine now and DON'T TELL MY WIFE! THANKS AGAIN JAY!
Have on my 09 ram for a year now.....great product....works perfect....wouldn't want to drive truck without it on....money well spent as well as cold air intake and exhaust
Would the power commander mess up my 2018 jeep compass even though i have a k&n cold air intake? Have thoughts on buying the power commander just seen to many reviews so im wondering if i can have both on or have to remove one in order for the other to work?
I just installed one in my 2012 big horn. Oh man, it's amazing and scary. My truck feels like an emotional girlfriend on steroids. Touch her and she turns into hulk.
Does this make the throttle respond any faster than stock if you mash the pedal to the carpet both before and after installing it, or does it just make your inputs more aggressive for you? I've been recommended to check these out but I do not trust them to do anything other than pin the gas for me, which I'm capable of doing on my own. My car still doesn't immediately accelerate when floored, and not because it can't- it's just programmed not to. It just waits. Does this change _that?_
Doesn't change nothing with using cruise control. Everything works just the same. I have this in my vehicle just for quicker acceleration. Not trying to add power to a fusion EcoBoost. Just want some pick up off the red light. Just a little fun.
I set up in city+1 in daily driving. And yes the response is much better. Soon Im going to drive from PA to Florida and I want set up sport +1. My best millage driving daily is 15.6, but mostly 14.7 daily driving to work. Is like $40 weekly not bad for me.
Thanks for the honest review! I’m gonna get one now. People tend to hate on these types of products because they are technically not power adders but I used to have one in my TL type S and it made and already fun car to drive even more fun by increasing the responsiveness of the throttle. You could spend 2000 dollars on intake and exhaust and get the same instant satisfaction of a mod by spending $300 on this little beauty! Thanks!
Holy cow my grandfathers truck does does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds stock. But if it takes another second and a half off the 0-60 his truck would do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds!! Just if your wondering its a 2014 Dodge ram 1500 5.7 regular cab short bed
I have it for my 14' F150 Ecoboost, nice knowing you turbo lag. Especially if you have a cold air intake and dual exhaust. I like the bluetooth option, change my settings on my iphone. Just bought a 15' Camaro 1LT/RS, first thing I bought was another Pedal Commander. I love barely touching the accelerator and BOOM, I'm off! Almost forgot, if you're a veteran call them and get a GREAT discount off the price!!!
No damage to tranny. It just redistributes a little power to the front end but tapers back to normal as you keep on the accelerator. Adds no power or torque. Changes sensitivity on throttle body
So it’s basically like your pedal being pushed down further than it actually is...? ‘Feels like’ more power (compared to how much you normally press you pedal).
from what i gathered, yes, thinking of doing adding this to my corvette but im thinking the mode selector already does this if you're switching from lets say touring mode to sport or track mode..gotta do more research =\
I like the video but the three run time decreases could be from the engine getting warmed up. If only u dropped it back to stock or eco mode right after the three runs
Aka throttle controller. Does noting but tell the ecu the accelerator is pushed down more % than it really is. So, 10% stock is now more likely 15/20%. I got one as part of a stage one kit as it claimed to reduce the lag I got from putting my foot down to the car actually responding. Works well. Can be dangerous. Turn it way up and mine fries my tires.
Ecu tune changes the computer setting this just increases the sensitivity of the throttle body. Ecu tune usually adds power as with this it adds no power. On newer vehicles under warranty ecu tune will void warranties unless it's a plug and play or you want to keep reverting to stock and then to your tune. This you can leve plugged in tuck the controller box away and take it right in to service and nothing will be discovered within computer scan. Longer story short it's all what you want. Quicker acceleration no added power...pedal commander. Quicker acceleration AND more power...ecu tune
Pedal Commander truly works...I have one on my 370Z and the throttle response is nothing short of amazing. All of the naysayers below just simply talk themselves out of something because they don't understand how it works. It DOES get rid of throttle response lag. That's all it does. To quote a responder, "No matter what setting you have on the pedal commander the ecu will still slow down the rate at which your throttle opens". That is untrue. With the Pedal Commander, the ECU does not slow down the rate at which the throttle opens. And, it does get rid of the lag caused by today's ECUs. I know from experience...I have no lag now when I press my gas pedal with the Pedal Commander attached, where before installation, I did.
I heard this was a cool item, if you just want throttle control. I'm still stuck on the tuner with adjustable parameters across the board. I also never had a warranty issue with my tuner on the truck. The dealer actually has a no flash notice in their system whenever they pull my truck info.
HEMILIFE 410 lmao. They know u have it tuned! Dealer just turns a blind eye. Dealers don't pay warranty. Fca does. So if u have an issue good luck getting it covered by the manufacturer. On a 50k truck it's not worth the risk.
Andy Hass yeah no 2 situations are the same. I got my 13 brand new and tuned it at about 9000 miles and I've had a few warranty issues taken care of. Most important was the mushrooming of the valves. They had to replace the whole left side head and they knew it was tuned. One service guy did act a little funny but they took care of me. Every oil change they know not to flash any updates without asking me first. So in short yeah it's all on your service advisor and the relationship you have with them.
There are some changes with the throttle inputs. The problem with throttle by wire on turbo engines. Is an exaggerated turbo lag. There were times I was trying to pull out into traffic and my truck wouldn't go. Not a good situation to be in.
EliteStricker I just bought mine in November. It’s got 46,500 on it with brand new tires. I should check the air filter as the dealership surely didn’t. The previous owner was getting 11.8 mpg. So I’ve gotten it up a little.
@@KG-gf2jo I bought mine with 60k on it and have 122k now, mostly all highway miles. Check engine filter, try one of the gas additives. You use regular gas? Or mid? Here in sa I use 89, which is also recommended
Some how it flooded my wires and had my truck miss firing 500$ later at the dealership it was fixed mind you i floored it to get ahead of a car to get off a exit
The haters need to be educated on how this works before they make the comments about "snake oil" or stuff like "just press the pedal faster". Throttle by wire systems used to just be a 1:1 analog signal from the pedal, and the ECU's job was to keep up with the engines demands based on input from the engine sensors. Now the pedal sends digital codes to the ECU first, but it's not 1:1 from the foot pedal - everything, including the throttle position, is controlled by the ECU.
The pedal is an electronic device is and is just one device of many that sends digital codes to the ECU that tell the engine how to respond. The ECU reads a digital code from the pedal and all other sensors and interprets how to make the engine and transmission work together to reduce emissions and provide a smooth drivable response (thanks to EPA and NHTSA). Throttle sensitivity boosters do more than just amplify the signal from the pedal, and it's done in a way that can not be mimicked by just increasing the speed in which you press the pedal - it talks to the ECU and then the ECU changes everything about how the truck responds - which means the fuel injector ramps, waste gates (boost), shift characteristics, etc. Very simply, it's a "dumb" tuner with fixed parameters, and it is not recorded as an ECU change because it's just an input to the ECU, not like a tuner that changes the ECU (which is why it can not be detected by dealers for warranty issues and it's allowed for sale in CA).
Think of it this way: your gas pedal sends signals to the ECU that mimics it's position in order of depression - 1, 2, 3 ,4, 5 and so on. It can only be in that order no matter how fast you press the pedal down, and based on that input order, the ECU will not go past a certain ramp up speed no matter how fast you push down the pedal. it will be very close to 1:1 if you press it normally; but the faster you press it down, the ramp curve slows down because the ECU is waiting for the inputs from the emissions system and trans to catch up. But that process is based in part on the digital codes coming from the pedal - in very simple laymens terms, the booster sort of changes the send the order to 1, 3, 5, 7... , or 1,5, 10, 15.. and the ECU is tricked into thinking it has to play catch up, which takes priority over the other emissions and fuel economy inputs. That's way over simplified, but the point is don't think this just increases the analog amplitude of a signal from the gas pedal, because that would obviously have no effect on an ECU controller car.
I could show how it works with with math and graphs and stuff, but i've already probably bored everyone to death with my tech dork description, so just try the device and see for yourself.
Would it work on a vehicle with a hand help programmer like superchips?
Wow! Awesome detailed explanation!
Drive a BMW diesel and anyone should be able to understand the throttle body and pedal is not 1:1, so much delay it's insane... not turbo lag. (forums say something to do with torque management?) Hoping to buy one of these soon for the ole bimmer.
Have you opened it up see what hard ware there if not i dont believe u
Last time I checked, throttle position was determined by your foot.
i actually bought this for my 2013 gmc sierra because I didn't like the lag between the throttle body and the pedal, and I must say it has made a huge difference. Its like driving a whole different truck and the price isn't bad at all for what you get, it has over 32 different settings for you to find the one you you like.
It makes it quicker, not faster. And yes it does exactly what it was intended for.
ray caraway it’s a Cummins
It eliminates the lag in throttle response so it feels faster. Does not add any hp
@@EliteStricker he didn’t say it adds horsepower
Facts
Quick is fast
I finally installed the Pedal Commander in my 18 Ecodiesel. After a few weeks of driving around. I have a few things to say. First Fiat/Ram what the hell? The difference is night and day. There had been a few times I feared pulling out in traffic. I thought my truck was too slow in getting up to speed. Until this video, I never knew about the voltage thing. Now my truck is a really good daily driver. Thx for the video Jay. PS I bought my module through Amazon for $210
No worries man I’m glad you like it.
How is everything now, after 1 year installed? I have a 2015 Ecodiesel - deleted EGR, cats, res, DEF, after market air intake, Green Diesel ECM - and I had it in +2 and everything was great until I was working in -40degC on night shift and left it idling all night; I started getting a Service Electronic Throttle code which completely disabled the electronic throttle. I luckily had a OBD2 code reader and cleared the code and discovered that not allowing the truck to idle for 8-12 hrs prevented the issue. It still happens sometimes if cruising in neighborhoods at idle for 10+ minutes. I haven't removed the booster, just changed it to stock settings and it hasn't caused issues since.
@@forcealpine87 I haven't had any issues with it.
I just hooked mine up. It has taken a dangerously under accelerating truck and made it a properly accelerating truck. I was seriously regretting my eco diesel purchase, this has changed my mind. Thanks for your awesome videos. Now off to work to save for the King's.
Ben you were not the only one. I took my truck back to the dealership twice. Just to have the mechanic look at me like I am an idiot.
Don't take your ecodiesel I. For update they will detune it if you have the first release model .my friends is totally stock but has not been to the dealer for the so called update/detune
This is the comment I been looking for.
Yeah was have been regretting my 2021 1500 ecodiesel for a year now. I need to get one of these for sure.
Liked that you took a few days before making the review. Thank you for doing that! Appreciate the solid review.
Wouldn't drive a Ram without one now. The adjustability also is great depending on road conditions.
Good video.....been using pedal commander for over a year...money well spent. I put it to stock for my wife when she drives and can't imagine driving without it now. I have exhaust and a cold air intake to go along with pedal commander and runs like a Hemi should ......truck just wants to go fast.
People who like the pedal commander or any of the other clones have no idea how a throttle by wire system works. When you press down on the gas pedal your ecu sees the signal then sends your throttle body instructions on how far to open. The pedal commander attaches to the gas pedal and alters the signal that goes from the gas pedal to the ecu.
The problem people are trying to fix with the device is the so called lag they feel when they press their gas pedal down and when the car actually starts moving. For some reason people think that the signal going from the gas pedal takes a long time to travel to the ecu and that is why they have a delay. The signal actually reaches the ecu instantly and the signal going from the ecu to the throttle body is instant as well. So why is there a delay? Because the automotive makers built it into the software. Its called torque management. If you slam your foot down to the floor what happens is the ecu says, nope, and gradually opens the throttle body not giving it full power right away because it doesnt want you to spin the tires and lose control of the car. Pretty much every modern car does this.
So what does the pedal commander do? It lies to the ecu as to how far youre pressing the gas pedal. So if you press it 30 percent the ecu may see 50. So by the time youre at 70 to 80 to 90 percent the ecu is seeing 100 percent full throttle making it feel like the car is accelerating faster. The problem with this is that now the pedal resolution has been greatly lowered making it more light switch like and the 1 to 1 throttle pedal to output ratio has been thrown out which makes it feel less like the old throttle by cable systems which were 1 to 1 ratios. No matter what setting you have on the pedal commander the ecu will still slow down the rate at which your throttle opens since this product installs before the ecu signal and not after and torque management is still there.
My opinion is that this product and all its clones are snake oil. These companies prey on people who dont understand how a modern throttle by wire system works. It doesnt get rid of any lag because there is none to get rid of. It will do nothing to how fast your car accelerates to sixty. Dont waste your money on this huge rip off. To get rid of that delay you have to get a tune which will remove torque management. Also, a tune can alter your throttle to output ratio to whatever your want making the pedal commander totally useless. Yes if you have both a tune and a pedal commander at the same time you have literally just flushed 300 bucks down the drain. This pedal commander is worth 30 bucks at most. My RC radio controller can do this exact same thing except I get to totally customize what my throttle does with a visual graph and lcd display plus I have atleast 20 more functions and its wireless all for 40 bucks. So please dont waste your money on this garbage product.
+Sergey Melnik didn’t I say in the video this was good for people who don’t tune.
For people that dont work on their cars
Thats why I love it.
Torque management is fine on some vehicles. The above included. But they have this stuff on the newer Subarus now, the non turbo ones. And in the case of the Subaru half throttle from a stop you actually pickup speed quicker than a full throttle smash (Comes up within a few seconds)
Finally, someone that knows what they are talking about.
I have a Hemi Ram with an edge tune, K&N CAI, BBK shorty headers, flowmaster outlaw super 10 exhaust, Shift kit, line booster, and 355 gears with the pedal commander. I no longer use the pedal commander. It makes the truck TOO fast as far as throttle response. Literally it works as advertised and I am fully satisfied with it, but I need to not replace tires every 30000 miles. The plus 4 sport option makes the truck seem like a beast. 0-10% throttle input equals 0-100% normal throttle input. Very great for reaction times and off the line acceleration. Whenever I let someone drive the truck, I put the pedal commander to sport+ and +4
Everyone says its the fastest most powerful vehicle they have ever driven
I have one in my 13 ram hemi and found city+4 works best for my daily driver. I have never got any codes thrown so its pretty good for what it is
Is it the same commander. For Diesel and gas? I also have a 2018 hemi I think I might have ordered the wrong one
It's really for from the stop light in small turbo engines with a lot of TURBO lag until RPMs get up ...
If you live in an area with snow for a good chunk of the year the P Comm runs awsome on city -1 in 4WA during snowy/icy conditions.
I love it; it works great on my Tacoma SR 4x4! Basically it controls throttle response. It doesn't add power to your engine, but allows you to access it more or less quickly by varying the strength of the electronic signal sent to the ECU. I do everything from towing a 3,500lb travel trailer in the lowest Eco mode and get as much as 15mpg, to off roading where at times I want less response because it's so bumpy you don't want "crisp" throttle respinse, or sometimes more to power thru a mud bog. I have 33" tires as opposed to the stock 29" tires that came on the truck, and factoring in the corrected mileage, I get 18mpg city with a constant 300lbs of crap in the bed, a roof rack, no front air dam, etc. It's better than a "chip" because of it's choice of 39 different settings, doesn't violate your warranty, and you're not stuck with crappy mileage because you upped your horse power with a one-dimentional performance chip. I've been running it for a year and my comments are based on actual experience. Worth the money!
Very informative and unbias , now with this information I will purchase the pedal commander and hopefully remove that dead pedal syndrome my truck has Cheers Mate
So did you buy the Pedal Commander and if so what is your opinion on it after a few months of use ??
I just installed the pedal commander in my mini cooper s and WOW what a difference... it's not the same car! Regular sport mode with the car in sport also screams off the line, it pulls so hard leaving the lights now.
Just ordered one for my new durango RT, Can't wait. Glad to hear you love it!
Dude I got it today with a borla cat back all i can say is 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
I need a CAI waiting for S&B
Get the Varraram air grabber. I have had the a snb and the VAG is better
Whats cai and s&b
I drove from Atlanta Georgia to St. Louis Missouri in my 2019 challenger r/t. I had the pedal on eco mode. I got 30mpg on the trip. I did get on it some too.
The eco mode on the pedal commander only delays the throttle response time while accelerating from a dead stop because that is when you burn or waste the most amount of fuel. Cruising on the highway it doesn't do anything, you could have had it in sport +4 the entire trip and still averaged 30 mpg. Eco mode is not doing something magical inside the engine to give you better fuel mileage it just slows the response of the throttle opening. My girlfriends 2015 Hyundai Tucson has Eco mode and the lag or delay from the pedal acceleration is so god awful in Eco mode we keep it off. My 1984 Dodge Power Ram has a 1:1 throttle response because it is a physical cable opening up the throttle and let me tell you the difference it makes when you mash your foot down is insane
2015 civic 1.8 n/a with the cvt. got this to top off my intake and throttle body spacer. it's the icing on the cake. it's awesome. fun
I put a stealth module in mine. It completely eliminated the turbo lag. I agree, they do need a little something to adjust the factory configuration.
Drove on the Pedal Commander in my challenger for a couple of months then it started to throw throttle position sensor warnings. It has been removed. The warnings have stopped completely.
I am grateful to have come across your review. My car which has a 2.0 i4, still has lag (even after doing a performance mod). What annoys me is when the rpm’s kick in over 2000 due to hill assist. If this makes for a more linear power flow, my decision is much easier.
Awesome product period, don’t believe any negative reviews.
Agreed
I just ordered one yesterday for my 2019 Silverado with 8,000 miles on it
DISCLAIMER this will make your truck accelerate as it should without smashing on the pedal. It will make it quicker not faster. If you want faster you will still need a tune with bolt ons.
Yes!
Exactly what I was thinking, it's good for pedal response but that's it. The tuner is going to open up so much more plus increase pedal response time. If all you want is a better throttle time, then go for it.
Holy crap somebody who understands the difference between quicker and faster. Are you trying to give me faith in this world again
Actually, even though it does not increase peak HP or Torque, it can give quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile times because it can get more power and torque to the ground earlier than you otherwise could. This gives higher cumulative power (area under the curve) by the end of the run, resulting in better times. There are TH-cam videos demonstrating this. Personally, I prefer the Sprint Booster, but they are both good units. Sprint Booster does not seem to have the lockup/freeze problem.
Do you still like the Pedal Commander since the installation?
I love it I run mine with a Diablo tuner and I have a full flowmaster 40 series headers back system plus k&n cold air intake bad ass..
Why did you add the commander when you can boost throttle response with the tuner? Just curious
I know this is an older video, but can anyone tell me if it is ok to use the Pedal Commander in combination with the Range AFM disabler? I realize that they use completely different plug in ports, but I wasn’t sure if it would be “healthy “ for my truck to use both devices in combination. I hope that someone can answer my question. Thanks. Great review 👍👍
How did it feel when you were on the highway? How did it handle out in the environment you’re in?
Jay flatout let me tell you everything you said about gas mileage better experience is all TRUTH i made a few videos saying the same thing my mpg was shit now its more reasonable this Pedal Commander is the way to go
Which pedal commander did you purchase
I saw another video where some guys “killed” their engine because they kept on changing in the fly from the app and the commander itself. They mentioned the transmission slipping and shifting odd with a check engine light, but after turning it off for a couple of minutes while they pumped gas (full tank) the engine light stayed on, but the issues with shifting went away. They said in the instructions it says not to change on the fly but never mentioned what the engine light was. So if this were to happen, would disconnecting it just solve the issue ?
Got this for my 2018 ford focus after adding CAI. It finally accelerates how i want it to.
I have a toyota camry and people say it works, is it worth the money and would it do damage to my 2018 camry?
Thanks for the review! I just bought this with little research. I look forward to installing this with a cold air intake. I hope to cut some fuel consumption with these minor upgrades.
Let me know how it works out I'm on the fence about buying one or a Diablo I'm getting a horrible mileage in my lifted truck
Should have tried sport + plus 4
#fullsend
I have used sport plus +4 and my lifted Ram launches and roasts the tires in place on dry pavement!
mine 2015 Dodge Grand caravan has terrible throttle gas pedal delay almost a full second every Dodge Grand caravan suffers with. I actually don't want more power nor do I want a touchy gas pedal, I would love a product to help get rid of some of that delay.
Great vid! Actual times to show people that it does make the truck faster. Sport plus - plus 4 is absolutely insane. Love it!
It’s a great little add on
Doesn't make it faster. It makes it accelerate quicker. In a sense it redistributes the power you already have to be able to accelerate quicker. No horsepower added with this.
@@pheonixsunnz948 accelerating quicker = truck moving faster
Thanks for the review. Very well done in an unbiased way. I just ordered mine today. I can't wait to get rid of that fall on your face pedal feeling!!!
I’ve been looking into this product but from my understanding it was made to make your peddle more quick and responsive to make it feel like more of a cable driven throttle body and reduced the lag of the electronic soo don’t really think it’s meant to be a performance mod but after seeing a 0-60 pull in a v6 definitely glad I got the hemi
It’s a diesel....
Well then I guess it is isn’t so in that chase after seeing a 0-60 pull in a eco diesel in glad I got the hemi
i do have a question though what if my car has Sport mode already?
I have the pedal commander in my 2019 challenger rt. It doesn't add horsepower but it makes it very snappy and faster response. In sport mode on the challenger and sport mode on the commander, it definitely responds very fast. I have also noticed it improved my stock muffler sound. Hope this helps.
This will probably be a great add on for us guys who live in Cali. I know this isn't a tuner, but getting any type of tuner in Cali is almost impossible because of emissions. If you have to get the tuner updated that is even a pain because the companies cannot legally ship it to Cali. Not to mention if your truck is newer you don't want to risk voiding your warranty.
Good review!
Just getting ready to install mine in my 2019 Laramie.
I already installed an S&B cold air intake and did a muffler delete so it sounds badass but being a lifted, heavy truck it needs a little help off the line and a little better fuel economy.
Thanks again, looking forward to using mine!
Holy crap!!!! This Pedal Commander launches my truck!!!
I have 35s and I roasted the tires in place on dry pavement!!!!
Well worth the money!!!!
19 classic or new 19 body style?
@@melspadt so the pedal commander made your tires chirp more easily compared to factory? And did it change throttle response 40-60
Jason Shin new body style Laramie
Cedric Miller it will chirp or spin the tires from the start but not in between gear changes.
I can get up to 80 miles an hour in about 6 seconds
I want one because I am doing upgrades and want an eco selection as well as a performance selection
Acceleration kills the mileage and I am already doing mods and feeling the change
Been using now on a 2012 ram 1500 4.7. for almost 3 years. It was the best improvement i have made besides tires.. Get rid of your goodyears and get anything after that.. Then get a pedal commander. It makes a weak 4.7 feel like a sports car. Also city +2 gives me better gas mileage then the factory settings do.
Have you thought about a stealth performance module?
Not wanting to do a tuner at this point.
Thanks for the detailed review.....looking to get one soon....definitely want quicker response from truck
Awesome dude!! I have a Tundra I can’t wait to install this pedal commander 😃😃
Is this only for current vehicles?
I loved my pedal commander but after having it installed for a few months I set it on the second most powerful setting worked fine till one day I punched it to get around a tractor trailer it fucked up and I had no pedal at all n a light came on in dash throttle sensor Sat on side of road took it off and pedal worked again. I don’t trust it now
Same thing here had it for a few months and got up for work and drove a mile and put it in limp mode same error
Good heads up
I love all these keyboard mechanics who are either too broke to buy this, or too skeptical. I installed one of these and was shocked with how my truck woke up off the line. Don't listen to these donkeys who have no experience with Pedal Commander. They work. PERIOD.
Does it still work? Did it cause any problems for your Tacoma?
Gracias Jay, Ram, oh yeah, and the pinche time you took to make your review was dam good, cause of your real time and action taken I'm ordering mine now and DON'T TELL MY WIFE! THANKS AGAIN JAY!
Have on my 09 ram for a year now.....great product....works perfect....wouldn't want to drive truck without it on....money well spent as well as cold air intake and exhaust
Would the power commander mess up my 2018 jeep compass even though i have a k&n cold air intake? Have thoughts on buying the power commander just seen to many reviews so im wondering if i can have both on or have to remove one in order for the other to work?
I appreciate very much the honesty and the review thank you sir you help me make my decision!
I just installed one in my 2012 big horn. Oh man, it's amazing and scary. My truck feels like an emotional girlfriend on steroids. Touch her and she turns into hulk.
Does this make the throttle respond any faster than stock if you mash the pedal to the carpet both before and after installing it, or does it just make your inputs more aggressive for you?
I've been recommended to check these out but I do not trust them to do anything other than pin the gas for me, which I'm capable of doing on my own.
My car still doesn't immediately accelerate when floored, and not because it can't- it's just programmed not to. It just waits. Does this change _that?_
Good video is it the same commander for Diesel and gas ?
One of the best reviews I have seen. Great job, I will be buying one soon.
Thanks buddy
Interested in knowing just what modes I can use my cruise control in. Cuz I use it all the time...
It won't work when speed control is used, reverts back to stock.
@@melspadt Thanks!!! I'll save my money
Doesn't change nothing with using cruise control. Everything works just the same. I have this in my vehicle just for quicker acceleration. Not trying to add power to a fusion EcoBoost. Just want some pick up off the red light. Just a little fun.
What do you think it would do for my lifted truck also I'm running 12 wides with 2 Inch spacers
Would you use the trucks sport mode on or off with this ? I do a lot if city driving, stop and go. City 1 or 2 I'm assuming.
I'm glad it dont void the warranty that was my main concern
do you have a video on the radar detector install?
How is it still holding up?
Might have to look into one for my truck! After switching to a ram 2500 hemi I notice it has way more pedal lag than I like
I set up in city+1 in daily driving. And yes the response is much better. Soon Im going to drive from PA to Florida and I want set up sport +1. My best millage driving daily is 15.6, but mostly 14.7 daily driving to work. Is like $40 weekly not bad for me.
Thanks for the honest review!
I’m gonna get one now.
People tend to hate on these types of products because they are technically not power adders but I used to have one in my TL type S and it made and already fun car to drive even more fun by increasing the responsiveness of the throttle. You could spend 2000 dollars on intake and exhaust and get the same instant satisfaction of a mod by spending $300 on this little beauty!
Thanks!
Can you use an Tuning chip along with the pedal commander
Holy cow my grandfathers truck does does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds stock. But if it takes another second and a half off the 0-60 his truck would do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds!! Just if your wondering its a 2014 Dodge ram 1500 5.7 regular cab short bed
Sorry this product will do nothing for your zero to sixty time
I'd connect two of them in a row. Then your grandpa's truck will do 0-60 in like 2.1 seconds!!!!!!!!
Connect 4 or more together and you have yourself a time machine.
He has a 3.0 ecodiesel turbo diesel
Is it compatable with a superchips tune installed?
Name of that particular pedal commder
Does it need higher octane with it are any gas is sufficient?
Got 2015 ram and eco mode throws my check engine light in any setting
Actually men each level has nine different settings. You forgot about when the red and green lights are off but the amber light is still on.
I have it for my 14' F150 Ecoboost, nice knowing you turbo lag. Especially if you have a cold air intake and dual exhaust. I like the bluetooth option, change my settings on my iphone. Just bought a 15' Camaro 1LT/RS, first thing I bought was another Pedal Commander. I love barely touching the accelerator and BOOM, I'm off! Almost forgot, if you're a veteran call them and get a GREAT discount off the price!!!
Plus 4, Minus 4, neutral... Wouldn't that be 9 settings? Not 8?
You are correct I suppose haha
@@JayFlatOut will it work on my 2018 ram v6 3.6??????
Will it damage your transmission if the setting is changed while the car is running? If you move from sport to eco or viceversa?
No damage to tranny. It just redistributes a little power to the front end but tapers back to normal as you keep on the accelerator. Adds no power or torque. Changes sensitivity on throttle body
Does this give you any more horse power or towing capabilities?
No.
Does it disable the MDS?
My remote start stopped working when I installed mine..
Is that a speaker behind your head, in the ceiling?
playsinmud yes, Laramie models have a speaker on each side in the rear ceiling.
So it’s basically like your pedal being pushed down further than it actually is...? ‘Feels like’ more power (compared to how much you normally press you pedal).
from what i gathered, yes, thinking of doing adding this to my corvette but im thinking the mode selector already does this if you're switching from lets say touring mode to sport or track mode..gotta do more research =\
I like the video but the three run time decreases could be from the engine getting warmed up. If only u dropped it back to stock or eco mode right after the three runs
It's not mounted straight.. You can't be too obsessed with the interior ;-)
Yes it is!!!!
First thing I noticed too. Haha
What ram are you driving?
I'm happy with my GDE tune, made a big difference and 2+ mpg.
What did you do to get 2 mpg and what's your vehicle? Im looking to get at least 2mpg out of my Rebel 2020. Thanks in advance
do you get better gas mileage in sport + mode
just ordered mine today can't wait to get it installed! thanks for the review
Have you notice a big difference when using the commander in track mode vs sport?
Aka throttle controller. Does noting but tell the ecu the accelerator is pushed down more % than it really is. So, 10% stock is now more likely 15/20%. I got one as part of a stage one kit as it claimed to reduce the lag I got from putting my foot down to the car actually responding. Works well. Can be dangerous. Turn it way up and mine fries my tires.
What is the throttle in eco
Does it accelerate nice and slow?
Which is better, an ECU tune or this one?
Ecu tune changes the computer setting this just increases the sensitivity of the throttle body. Ecu tune usually adds power as with this it adds no power. On newer vehicles under warranty ecu tune will void warranties unless it's a plug and play or you want to keep reverting to stock and then to your tune. This you can leve plugged in tuck the controller box away and take it right in to service and nothing will be discovered within computer scan. Longer story short it's all what you want. Quicker acceleration no added power...pedal commander. Quicker acceleration AND more power...ecu tune
Hi Jay, where can I get one of those? I've got a 1500 eco diesel ram 2015. Does that fit on my truck? Thanks
An is it good for towing?
Pedal Commander truly works...I have one on my 370Z and the throttle response is nothing short of amazing. All of the naysayers below just simply talk themselves out of something because they don't understand how it works. It DOES get rid of throttle response lag. That's all it does. To quote a responder, "No matter what setting you have on the pedal commander the ecu will still slow down the rate at which your throttle opens". That is untrue. With the Pedal Commander, the ECU does not slow down the rate at which the throttle opens. And, it does get rid of the lag caused by today's ECUs. I know from experience...I have no lag now when I press my gas pedal with the Pedal Commander attached, where before installation, I did.
Just installed and wow... my 2017 Ecodiesel has a ton of pep now.
+Jacob Whetstone yeah it’s way different
So... Im guessing the MPG is a little worst? since the ECO mode is always bypassed most of the time right?
Max Cruz doesn't affect eco mode at all.
I heard this was a cool item, if you just want throttle control. I'm still stuck on the tuner with adjustable parameters across the board. I also never had a warranty issue with my tuner on the truck. The dealer actually has a no flash notice in their system whenever they pull my truck info.
HEMILIFE 410 lmao. They know u have it tuned! Dealer just turns a blind eye. Dealers don't pay warranty. Fca does. So if u have an issue good luck getting it covered by the manufacturer. On a 50k truck it's not worth the risk.
Andy Hass yeah no 2 situations are the same. I got my 13 brand new and tuned it at about 9000 miles and I've had a few warranty issues taken care of. Most important was the mushrooming of the valves. They had to replace the whole left side head and they knew it was tuned. One service guy did act a little funny but they took care of me. Every oil change they know not to flash any updates without asking me first. So in short yeah it's all on your service advisor and the relationship you have with them.
My Jeep Cherokee has sport mode sand/mud and snow would those not mean anything and not do anything if I put this in
There are some changes with the throttle inputs. The problem with throttle by wire on turbo engines. Is an exaggerated turbo lag. There were times I was trying to pull out into traffic and my truck wouldn't go. Not a good situation to be in.
How are you getting 19 mpg out of that truck? I have a 15 Ram 1500 Crew Cab that gets 14. I don’t romp in the pedal either.
Clean your air filter, check your tire pressure
I have a 2010 and when I don't drive fast I can easily get 18+ and that's all stock also
EliteStricker I just bought mine in November. It’s got 46,500 on it with brand new tires. I should check the air filter as the dealership surely didn’t. The previous owner was getting 11.8 mpg. So I’ve gotten it up a little.
@@KG-gf2jo I bought mine with 60k on it and have 122k now, mostly all highway miles.
Check engine filter, try one of the gas additives. You use regular gas? Or mid?
Here in sa I use 89, which is also recommended
EliteStricker I’m probably 60/40 highway to city and I use regular. I’ve been thinking of going up to mid grade to see if there’s an improvement.
@@KG-gf2jo Yea I'd say try that and a gas treatment
I just went to get some food, and getting there, I was getting 14mpg
Some how it flooded my wires and had my truck miss firing 500$ later at the dealership it was fixed mind you i floored it to get ahead of a car to get off a exit