Funny enough, inRangeTV is already covering it. So if we wait a few years Ian and Carl can just reuse that footage for their Forgotten Weapons Channel.
If the quality were there I'd almost be more interested in it without the signature at all. Ignoring price for a second if this is only a limited edition run that is pretty disappointing. Someone who can actually bring large scale production to market will hopefully make something similar soon.
Somarik Green am I to understand that they are only making a single run of 500 of these and that’s it? Seems like a waste of time and effort. I’d gladly pay $2000+ for this and 3 mags setup for me to mount an rmr on. Or even $2500-$3000 setup. I don’t need the commemorations on the piece. It would be nice but then for me it would just end up sitting in a safe and never used.
@@DestroyER82 Exactly - or a Ruger or a zillion guns out there around $500 or even less. They all shoot. HOW they shoot is the difference between a $500 gun and a 5K gun. You can buy a Honda Accord for 35K or a Ferrari for 350K. They will both get you from point A to point B. Is it the same ride?
@@PierreKerbage Exactly, I have mentioned it few times, its Ferarri of firearms... Laugo is small company here in Prague, just a few people working on it. Pistols are waiting list only and every piece they make is sold already. And they dont really care about budget market, if you want budget gun, just get Glock or whatever. :)
Yes, however, really, really expensive high quality guns (like "Korth" which IIRC is around 3'500) are not unheard of, there obviously is a niche market for them.The only question really is - how big is that niche?
@@TotalRookie_LV I mean, I wouldn't expect a firearm with low production numbers, importation regulations and what sounds like many years of R&D _not_ to include those things in its price tag. I hope they sell out, and I'm sure they will. Hopefully this design can viably be optimized for cost.
I cant see 5000 dollars worth of innovation, hand fitting or exotic materials. So what gives?? This thing is like charging 5k for a glock or even an HK. I see 5000 dollar custom 2011 and i can respect the high levels of fit and finish as well as a pound and a half crisp trigger and world class magazines...this is a canik for those who suck at math.
@@paulbarclay4114 But where is the innovation in a 1911 gun? Nearly the same design for 100+ years. Go online and look up the price of a Sig P226 X6. You would be lucky to find it for 5K. STI sells 2011 guns today for about 8 to 10K - so if a gun is not a Glock for $500, it's not worth of mention any longer? Mercedes sells cars for $175,000 and not having many problems - yet a Toyota Corolla would sell for 35K. All I am trying to say is that there is room for innovation and that is worth $. Is it worth 5K? Not sure.
@@paulbarclay4114 I totally agree. You nailed it 100%. I have no issue with the 5K, but they should have spent a bit more time talking about the STABILITY of the company. What I do have a problem, is spending even 1K and then seeing the company exit because they don't have enough clients to have sustainable growth. Also, if they don't sell a lot, will we see a lot of support from 3rd party add-on manufacturers? Perhaps I don't like the included holster. Will the 3rd party manufacturers spend the money knowing that there are so few of those? Did the strategy to launch with a "signed" limited product and sell at a higher dollar per ticket a good decision? Time will tell. I love the gun - I may go ahead and order it today in fact. I would not be telling the truth if I am not saying, I am taking a chance. We heard nothing about how well capitalized the company is. This would have made us feel a lot better. Just a thought.
@Annoying Magpie i think you need to relax pal, everyone thinks that dogs and women are cool. You have PSTD from an attack with a leftist of something?
I watch this video and I'm immediately reminded of the Hudson H9. A wonderful idea for a comp pistol, but too expensive for the vast majority of shooters. If the developers want to see a few of these, they're headed in the right direction, if they want to sell a shit-ton, get the price down.
The issue with the Hudson H9 wasn't just price. It really wasn't that expensive, and it certainly wasn't geared towards competitive shooters. You can say 5k is way too much til the cows come home, but the fact of the matter is Professional (and even amateur competitive shooters) already buy custom 2011's for 3k-4k. Then get custom work done on top of that. Then there's the Czechmate which is 3.5k. same story, people buy it and then get custom work on top of that. Go to a USPSA match, look at what these guys are shooting.
The H9 is nowhere near as advanced as the Alien. Also, we have yet to see the non-special edition whih lancer says will eventually come. The price point on those may not be as high.
@@CharlieMikeNS Yeah the people commenting really don't understand guns and prices in the market. They look at mass manufactured ARs and Glocks that have been around for decades upon decades and long since recouped their R&D costs and think that's how everything new should be priced to compete with them.This isn't meant for the average shooter. Of course $5000 is a lot even for a race gun, but it isn't a race gun designed around a hundred year old Browning design so there is some logic to it.
@@chadington6029 Yeah, I'm not gonna buy it, but there's a lot of idiocy in the comment section. It's a bit niche, but it fill that niche very nicely. I think more importantly other manufacturers will try to economize this kind of design.
@@CharlieMikeNS well for such a unique design in such a way that it ought to be commonplace, it's practically so innovative that it should be making far greater ripple in the world than it is currently. At $5k per unit currently it just seems like a boutique of boutique firearms that makes the H&K G11 seem like cheap Halloween candy.
At 5,000$ are you really heading into the U.S. market or are you heading into a business meeting trying to explain your poor sales figures in the future ?
You say that bro, but I'd bet money that USPSA shooters will eat this shit up. They're already dropping 3k on a 2011 and then doing 1k work on it. They're already buying 3.5k Czechmates and doing 1k work on them. People will buy it.
@@CharlieMikeNS for sure USPSA shooters are going to love this but thats a tiny market. I dont see how this would even be worth it to produce. They will probably only sell 500-1000 so whats the point?
@@bev8200 that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Proven platform" it's like you have no experience with 2011's. They're notoriously fickle and unreliable. Furthermore every pistol has been an unproven platform at one point or another. You're making the same arguments that were made in the 70's when the Glock came out. "Why would I use that unproven pistol when I can stick with my proven .38 special revolver". And they didn't just get wasted and come up with 5k. Just because you wouldn't buy one doesn't mean no one should.
I've been eyeing/coveting this piece of engineering for a while, good to see some channels finally shoot it. I'd love to see this design in other calibers. $5 grand, though...
_"ReVoLutIoNArY"_ It's an H&K P7 with the recoil spring and gas system on the top, though it is a very cool design, what impressed me the most was the top mounted hammer.
It appears to be a gas braked blowback action. The piston is there to compensate for the small recoil spring. The hotter the ammo used, the higher the pressure that goes to the piston. Clever way to have it self adjust for different ammunition without needing adjustable parts.
I went to the website and put my $2500 down payment today. Can't wait. Only 500 ever made of the inaugural edition in the USA. And the most innovative design in decades for pistols. There are people out there buying custom pistols well over that price range that have absolutely no novelty to them in terms of truly innovative design.
Everybody talking about the price. What nobody (that I've seen) brings up is the fact that they've only made 500 so far! That makes it extremely rare! For now
So if I make a gun that's about twice as cool as a $1k tricked out Glock, I can charge $5k prices so long as I only make a few of them? Cool. Rarity doesn't mean much unless the gun is already reputable or old, and this thing (while really cool) is neither.
@@L1LegoAnimations dude, the gun has rep. People have been talking about it for years. It has tons of hype. It's worth what people are willing to pay. And since they've sold out the first 500 at $5000. That means the gun is worth $5000.
I really love my Alien! Great handgun. If you limited on the number of pistols you are allowed to own, like me in Germany, sooner or later you will buy the best gun you can afford. Price is secondary in that case. I saved two years for a good cometition pistol, and then Laugo Arms released the Alien. It was love on first sight, and I dont regret spending so much money. I waited 8 month for mine. I think their strategy to compete in the upper price segment of high quality cometition guns is the right decision. Why competing in a market segment domonated by the big players like Glock? It may not be the best bang for your money, but it is the best bang you can buy, and it is technically unique. I have one of the first 500 produced, so whatever happens, the gun will only go up in value.
Well said. I mean the price is still high even for the German market, but we're used to high prices anyways. I mean a S&W 686 that goes for 899 USD list price in the US is in stores for 1399 Euros in Germany for example. On German gun ranges, you're not used to seeing pistols below the 1500 Euro mark at all because people can't just buy and sell guns like in the US, we are aiming for the highest possible quality for every slot on our gun licence. The law forces us to be active in competitions, and so you're just trying to get the best. The hobby is expensive around here anyways, so a thousand more or less for one of your competition guns doesn't make that much of a difference to a lot of people. You also have to acknowledge that the Alien for the high price comes with a high quality red dot sight plus iron sights that can be changed in seconds, plus a competition belt and holster. Those extras could easily cost a thousand bucks if bought seperately. It's a pure bred race gun for dynamic competition shooting.
People are so salty that this gun is 5k. It's not made for the average person it's made for pro shooters it's a race gun for competition. Not for a nightstand by your bed not for carry its for pros. You shouldn't be butt hurt over a gun that's not made for you anyway.
I absolutely love the concept Engineering of this gun. Very innovative. Love the red dot not moving and the muzzle recovery being so quick and so small. I don't even have a concern of paying 5K. I payed much more for a SIG P210, or about the same for a SIG P226 X6 or an STI (actually more). My fear is that, at this price point, most people won't buy it, and it would make the company struggle. Will this company be here to support this 5K purchase in 1 year? In 10 years? That is my concern. Are they sustainable? In lieu of they "signature series", would it have been a better step to start with the basic gun around $1500 to $2,000? SIG's P226 Legion RX SAO is around that price with the Co-Witnessed optic (and that's SIG - a world class company with decades of history, hundreds of people on staff in multiple countries, etc.). Can they make it?
The company will most likely stay, if you watch the video they stated that first batch is already sold in Europe, American is sold out by now. And they have the money to expand the production in future years and release more affordable versions. Also they have gun shop in Prague and import guns localy, so they are on a good way to stay.
@@kibicz I ordered mine 3 months ago (when I posted this). I am expecting to have it towards the end of the of this month (May) or perhaps first week of June. I believe they sold out everything for the U.S. - I wish them great success. I know they are a bit expensive but I believe that you get what you pay for. Thanks for the nice and kind words!
BY the way - I ordered mine in February and here we are in August and they don't know when they will deliver. I am giving it till September, after that, I am asking for a refund. Note that the folks are the company have ALWAYS returned my Email and ALWAYS responded in a VERY professional manner.
I remember when videos of this pistol first surfaced that one commenter pleaded with manufacturers to work out all the kinks, maintain good relationships with their suppliers, and try not to offer it for ridiculously high MSRP. The same commenter predicted what would happen to the Hudson H9 and then was so impressed with this design that he didn't want to see it happen again.
The price makes sense considering the cost of tooling and scale of production. Also these are signed first runs. I hope it evolves and scales up so we can afford it.
All these comments of from people shopping from their own pocket books. For high end owners, $5K is nothing compared to a safari double rifle for $250K. This pistol is gonna sell like wild fire to people who aren't us commenting on a TH-cam vid lol
@@L1LegoAnimations thousands upon thousands will sell in the U.S. market. If you have never worked in the higher end industry, you would never know. Their is a gun range in SoCal I vend to that has a $10,000 lifetime membership fee and they have about 3,000 members and growing.
$5000.00?!!! "Good LORD, that's a lot'a money!!! How'bout I give ya a buck-fiddy an'you can lemme get a foam insert in the shape of the pistol instead?"
If you think that this pistol is ultra expensive, remembers the FK Brno 7.5 pistol with around $7500 MSRP which basically a CZ 75 styled pistol that can shoot a very high velocity round that equals with .44 magnum.
Market determines value. They already sold all 500 of the "Collector's Signature Launch Edition". That means that those 500 Laugo pistols were indeed worth $5000 to the people who bought them. People pay far more for 1st editions than the eventual retail price for the mass release all the time. 1st edition things like books, gaming systems, watches, toys, cars often go for elevated prices. When this thing hits mass retail I would imagine the price at $650-$1150.
I have a feeling they think that the US citizens are just filthy rich and that we wipe our ass with that kind of money. Rude reality shock in coming...
Gary J it’s an insult to even suggest a price like that, and it’s not like the brand has some long history. You can buy an entire arsenal for the price of that one pistol.
@@garyj449 Same price in Europe. These are first production guns, next batches are going to be cheaper. But without multiple rails (one with red dot) in a package. Get over it - it's a competition pistol, not plastic el cheapo Glock. Obviously, it's not going to make you magically a better shooter, no gun will.
Give it a polymer frame for the production run and sell it for under 1.5k and you will have a huge hit. Not at 5k though. I'll still be following this gun with alot of interest.
At first I thought $5,000.00 was crazy, but when I heard what's his face was signing it, I'd buy four. One for each wing of the mansion I'll be buying to house them.
Well, I'm not familiar with that pistol model, but the Alien surely seems similar to a P7 except that the gas chamber is on top. I wish people wouldn't throw around the "revolutionary" adjective that much. Some called the P356 revolutionary when in fact it was only "better". I am not aware of any revolutionary stuff since the first aimpoint red dot.
@@sogerc1 In this day and age if at the mere mention of any news you don't go on social media and act like the loudest most unhinged person in the world for a full minute and do the "mind blown" gesture for another solid minute, you might as well be dead or in a coma.
With a barrel that low, perhaps feeding is more reliable. The cartridges don't have to tilt up into the barrel. They can pretty much go straight ahead by the looks of it.
Seeing shades of the 7.5 FK Brno Field Pistol. Only this is 9mm(?). I look forward to watching TH-camrs get a T&E, reviewing it, shooting it and then sending it back And never hearing about it again. 🎩 🐍 no step on SNEK!🇺🇸🇭🇰
Giving a thumbs up for the video is only for James and tfb TV. As for the pistol, there's no reason in the world this fire should cost $5,000 and it is definitely not earth shattering amazing. They made a pistol with a fixed Barrel and so has Walther almost a century ago. The common guide rod under the barrel design is just how pistols are made 99.99% of the time. Like the Rhino revolver they just flipped a couple of things but people commonly just buy revolvers the way they've been made. In the video around 1 minute mark we can see that it's recoil spring over Barrel and because the barrel is mounted lower in the magazine well to chamber throat it's just a little different. It would have been easier having to recall spring over the barrel like a Walther PPK. There's no reason to worry of patent infringement but any firearm company with the machining to make a firearm could easily and simply put the spring over the barrel but why reinvent the wheel.
If you can't afford it then they don't want your money. Why can't some people understand that some business strategies favor low volume high margins? Do you look at a Bently and make the same dumb comment?
On their site they are taking "Pre-orders" for the signature edition, still $5,000. This price for - WHAT exactly? According to the site, apparently the big deal is the fixed barrel that "...eliminates movement during the firing cycle, resulting in exceptional accuracy". Well heck, my ruger 22/45 has that, and so does my $300 Bersa Thunder - and as it happens fixed barrel feature DOES in fact make guns more accurate... but other than that its a mighty high price just to have a gun that looks like it came from "Star Wars". I don't know what the maker (Czechoslovakia based Lancer arms) was thinking when they set their pricing how they did, but I'd be interested to know how many (and to whom) of these pistols they've sold so far - who would look at this gun and think "gotta have it"?
"out of their minds" Guaranteed the Pre-orders will sell out. This isn't an everyman's gun. This is for the racers. It's somewhat comparable to a tricked out 2011 or Czechmate in price. Just because it's out of your price range doesn't mean it's overpriced. It's not like it costs as much to make as a Glock and then they ratchet the price up to 11. Considering all the design and engineering that went into this, along with the fact that it's low production, yeah, it's gonna be expensive. They're they only company making a gun like this, and from what I've heard it actually makes a massive difference. Much like Ferraris and Lamborghinis, this is a specialty piece. It's expensive, it's more than most people could spend on a gun, but it's certainly not without cause, and people will eat this up.
@@michigan9564 Are you? If you ever visit a place where competition shooters gather, you will be very suprised at what kind of money they deck out for their tools.
To be perfectly honest that muzzle flip didn't look like anything special at all. For 5,000 you could just buy a few race guns LOL. Very innovative not very effective..
This is pretty much exactly how I've been saying for years handguns need to start getting designed in order for us to better take advantage of precision, materials and accessories, as well as physics. So kudos to them for putting it all together. I'd say it's about $3500 above where it should be though. Sure I know you need to recoup your years worth of R&D costs, but by only catering to the very high end specialty market, you're most likely not going to do it. Make that available to the masses though for mid to upper mid prices, and it would be a very hot seller.
Nothing about that mechanism demands that it be built to the standards of a top-end 2011. It's premium for the sake of premium - they're taking advantage of being the only game in town.
So basically the Alien gun comes with "Out of this world prices"
Some would say they're astronomical
Exactly! It it it gotta be! In the words of Mr. James!
GOOD ONE.....................................
@@SlingbladeJim I'm glad somebody else watches Mr. James as the sugar daddy!
that was in the damn thumbnail, don't give him credit for this lol
Later on Forgotten Weapons , the " Laugo Alien "!
Funny enough, inRangeTV is already covering it. So if we wait a few years Ian and Carl can just reuse that footage for their Forgotten Weapons Channel.
@@themidnightanimal1555 but, this Rogak will live on!
“It was a really clever design, but they charged too much for it and it went out of production”
Lol😂😂😂
88 Magnum - LMFAO! Honestly, the pistol has some great features but the price will prevent the Alien from ever becoming a popular pistol.
James is like 'I'll shoot it "
"But I'm not buying"
That's exactly what I would say! 😅
I'm pretty sure he's not paying full retail if he did decide too. Then again,what do I know. 🤔
Eugene Stoner being able to afford it never directly equate to purchase justification
I knoe that shit right!
Eugene Stoner No he just made a valid statement. Just because you have the money to buy it doesn’t mean you’ll actually buy it.
Kel tec is gonna rip off this design an start whipping these out for 499 a piece. Just watch. there going to call it the beached whale.
Nah it will be PSA
kel tec has some pretty good stuff coming out this year
$499 is better than this overpriced POS
@@michaelglenn2468 psa will do it better.
$5000 is way too much for a pistol.
I figure Ruger will rip it off like they did with the five seven
For $5k I better also get the edge of the precious
Taran approves.
Well played.
One alien or +10 glocks?
For $5k it better have at least a cup holder and grease pool for that price
It better be able to do several unmentionable acts and be making me a sandwich while I am typing this
$5000 dollars, to quote Chris Rock “good lord that’s a lot of money”.
That's for the collector's edition, though. They didn't even mention what or when it would sell as the standard consumer version.
That is a good pistol, a good rifle and a good shotgun + spare ammo money ...
*Laughs in 7.5 FK BRNO*
"How 'bout you just give me 10 Glocks and call it good"
Chris Rock then says, "You break a hundred?"
We don’t care about a signature. We want an affordable gun.
TheDoonzman ooohhhh
If the quality were there I'd almost be more interested in it without the signature at all. Ignoring price for a second if this is only a limited edition run that is pretty disappointing. Someone who can actually bring large scale production to market will hopefully make something similar soon.
Somarik Green am I to understand that they are only making a single run of 500 of these and that’s it? Seems like a waste of time and effort. I’d gladly pay $2000+ for this and 3 mags setup for me to mount an rmr on. Or even $2500-$3000 setup. I don’t need the commemorations on the piece. It would be nice but then for me it would just end up sitting in a safe and never used.
@@DestroyER82 Exactly - or a Ruger or a zillion guns out there around $500 or even less. They all shoot. HOW they shoot is the difference between a $500 gun and a 5K gun. You can buy a Honda Accord for 35K or a Ferrari for 350K. They will both get you from point A to point B. Is it the same ride?
@@PierreKerbage Exactly, I have mentioned it few times, its Ferarri of firearms... Laugo is small company here in Prague, just a few people working on it. Pistols are waiting list only and every piece they make is sold already. And they dont really care about budget market, if you want budget gun, just get Glock or whatever. :)
6:46 Sounds like even the rep threw up a little in his mouth after trying to nonchalantly say "it's 5 grand".
Yes, however, really, really expensive high quality guns (like "Korth" which IIRC is around 3'500) are not unheard of, there obviously is a niche market for them.The only question really is - how big is that niche?
@@TotalRookie_LV I mean, I wouldn't expect a firearm with low production numbers, importation regulations and what sounds like many years of R&D _not_ to include those things in its price tag. I hope they sell out, and I'm sure they will. Hopefully this design can viably be optimized for cost.
As far as i know, this is a collector's edition. 500 only, to see if it works, i mean, they did that in europe and it sold out quickly
@@user-pq9gy3fq1q I checked their sight earlier this week, they are sold out....
I need them to lose a zero off the price tag.
I cant see 5000 dollars worth of innovation, hand fitting or exotic materials. So what gives?? This thing is like charging 5k for a glock or even an HK. I see 5000 dollar custom 2011 and i can respect the high levels of fit and finish as well as a pound and a half crisp trigger and world class magazines...this is a canik for those who suck at math.
Mr. Mixy I honestly thought he meant to say 500 and just messed up in saying 5000. But they never corrected it. That blows my mind
@@paulbarclay4114 But where is the innovation in a 1911 gun? Nearly the same design for 100+ years. Go online and look up the price of a Sig P226 X6. You would be lucky to find it for 5K. STI sells 2011 guns today for about 8 to 10K - so if a gun is not a Glock for $500, it's not worth of mention any longer? Mercedes sells cars for $175,000 and not having many problems - yet a Toyota Corolla would sell for 35K. All I am trying to say is that there is room for innovation and that is worth $. Is it worth 5K? Not sure.
@@paulbarclay4114 I totally agree. You nailed it 100%. I have no issue with the 5K, but they should have spent a bit more time talking about the STABILITY of the company. What I do have a problem, is spending even 1K and then seeing the company exit because they don't have enough clients to have sustainable growth. Also, if they don't sell a lot, will we see a lot of support from 3rd party add-on manufacturers? Perhaps I don't like the included holster. Will the 3rd party manufacturers spend the money knowing that there are so few of those? Did the strategy to launch with a "signed" limited product and sell at a higher dollar per ticket a good decision? Time will tell. I love the gun - I may go ahead and order it today in fact. I would not be telling the truth if I am not saying, I am taking a chance. We heard nothing about how well capitalized the company is. This would have made us feel a lot better. Just a thought.
The only pistol to ever hold too much zero.
Can't wait to see that in the new John Wick movie
Ricardo Justiniano yea with no recoil and atom dispersement
@Annoying Magpie i think you need to relax pal, everyone thinks that dogs and women are cool.
You have PSTD from an attack with a leftist of something?
@Annoying Magpie that dog scene was so confusing. It was way too long and I didn't see the point of Halle Barry's character
Ill take a cz shadow 2 at 1/5 the price of this all day everyday. For 5K, I'm expecting a laser pistol as a new design.
Vanguard784 in the 40 watt range?
I was thinking plasma... but yeah. lol
And a TSO with still thousands in my pocket.
@@TheCenturion8404 hey only what you see pal
I watch this video and I'm immediately reminded of the Hudson H9. A wonderful idea for a comp pistol, but too expensive for the vast majority of shooters.
If the developers want to see a few of these, they're headed in the right direction, if they want to sell a shit-ton, get the price down.
The issue with the Hudson H9 wasn't just price. It really wasn't that expensive, and it certainly wasn't geared towards competitive shooters.
You can say 5k is way too much til the cows come home, but the fact of the matter is Professional (and even amateur competitive shooters) already buy custom 2011's for 3k-4k. Then get custom work done on top of that. Then there's the Czechmate which is 3.5k. same story, people buy it and then get custom work on top of that. Go to a USPSA match, look at what these guys are shooting.
The H9 is nowhere near as advanced as the Alien. Also, we have yet to see the non-special edition whih lancer says will eventually come. The price point on those may not be as high.
@@CharlieMikeNS Yeah the people commenting really don't understand guns and prices in the market. They look at mass manufactured ARs and Glocks that have been around for decades upon decades and long since recouped their R&D costs and think that's how everything new should be priced to compete with them.This isn't meant for the average shooter. Of course $5000 is a lot even for a race gun, but it isn't a race gun designed around a hundred year old Browning design so there is some logic to it.
@@chadington6029 Yeah, I'm not gonna buy it, but there's a lot of idiocy in the comment section. It's a bit niche, but it fill that niche very nicely.
I think more importantly other manufacturers will try to economize this kind of design.
@@CharlieMikeNS well for such a unique design in such a way that it ought to be commonplace, it's practically so innovative that it should be making far greater ripple in the world than it is currently. At $5k per unit currently it just seems like a boutique of boutique firearms that makes the H&K G11 seem like cheap Halloween candy.
"It makes sense", but price doesn't make sense
I'll cut them a check soon as I see about 70% off that MSRP.
$85% off
You found 3 poor guys when you include me.
@@hikeskool Not a poor guy. For $5000 you might as well get an Atlas, which will be a better pistol in every regard.
You can hear James gag after hearing the price
$5,000? What’s that in kidneys?
Iball nonya ohkaaahhgggggghhh....
LOL
A kidney is worth about 20 of these.
@@JeffJacquesmd tax included?
Jun Imai I don’t think the black market in kidneys has a sales tax
And here I thought 4k for a SCAR is still overpriced
Thansk for including the price in the title so I didn't get all excited over a gun I could never buy.
Somehow I feel that there should be more track suits and shorts in this video
GOPNIK
Why?
At 5,000$ are you really heading into the U.S. market or are you heading into a business meeting trying to explain your poor sales figures in the future ?
You say that bro, but I'd bet money that USPSA shooters will eat this shit up.
They're already dropping 3k on a 2011 and then doing 1k work on it.
They're already buying 3.5k Czechmates and doing 1k work on them.
People will buy it.
@@CharlieMikeNS 3k on a proven platform. They want 5k just because.
You’d be surprised. I’ll def pick one up
@@CharlieMikeNS for sure USPSA shooters are going to love this but thats a tiny market. I dont see how this would even be worth it to produce. They will probably only sell 500-1000 so whats the point?
@@bev8200 that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Proven platform" it's like you have no experience with 2011's. They're notoriously fickle and unreliable. Furthermore every pistol has been an unproven platform at one point or another. You're making the same arguments that were made in the 70's when the Glock came out. "Why would I use that unproven pistol when I can stick with my proven .38 special revolver".
And they didn't just get wasted and come up with 5k. Just because you wouldn't buy one doesn't mean no one should.
This gun had better show up in The Division III or the next Ghost Recon/Splinter Cell game.
I've been eyeing/coveting this piece of engineering for a while, good to see some channels finally shoot it. I'd love to see this design in other calibers.
$5 grand, though...
$5k will improve your accuracy
4:53 ''And the different...úhel...'' I died XD
I'd rather put five grand towards a full auto gun.
I see this being a failure or being one where the next 10 shot shows we have videos of them explaining why it isn't released yet.
Huh? It's already out and I've seen it at a level 3 IPSC match...
Why? Ive already borrowed one from pal at our gun club.. Firts batch was already sold out last fall in Europe.
Interesting to see what the actual price will be when they begin mass manufacturing them.
As long as they are selling for 5 grand, they will be 5 grand... 2 years and no end in sight.
_"ReVoLutIoNArY"_
It's an H&K P7 with the recoil spring and gas system on the top, though it is a very cool design, what impressed me the most was the top mounted hammer.
It appears to be a gas braked blowback action. The piston is there to compensate for the small recoil spring. The hotter the ammo used, the higher the pressure that goes to the piston. Clever way to have it self adjust for different ammunition without needing adjustable parts.
$1500 max
They should get it to 800 and they would sell lots.
Thanks James! Most informative Laugo video so far on TH-cam!
April 1st is soooooo ironic...
I went to the website and put my $2500 down payment today. Can't wait. Only 500 ever made of the inaugural edition in the USA. And the most innovative design in decades for pistols. There are people out there buying custom pistols well over that price range that have absolutely no novelty to them in terms of truly innovative design.
Everybody talking about the price. What nobody (that I've seen) brings up is the fact that they've only made 500 so far! That makes it extremely rare! For now
I’m confused by the anger as well. If these sell well, there is likely to be affordable models to follow.
@@Thumpr110 totally, the guy said they've already sold the first 500. I'm sure they'll sellout of the next batch too. People need to chill.
So if I make a gun that's about twice as cool as a $1k tricked out Glock, I can charge $5k prices so long as I only make a few of them? Cool. Rarity doesn't mean much unless the gun is already reputable or old, and this thing (while really cool) is neither.
@@L1LegoAnimations dude, the gun has rep. People have been talking about it for years. It has tons of hype. It's worth what people are willing to pay. And since they've sold out the first 500 at $5000. That means the gun is worth $5000.
I’ll be a little less pissed when the government confiscates my $500.00 firearm then I would with a $5000.00 firearm.
$5,000!!! Do they ship you an accessory wife as well?
Germaxicus - They would have but they haven’t been able to engineer a wife that would have sweetened the deal
Totaly opposite perk.....once you buy it, your wife will divorce you immediately....
@@AZdaJa Damn, I dont even have a wife yet. But I already hear her nagging me about the price and telling me she is staying with her mom.
Germaxicus best comment lol
it would have to give BJ's at that price....
I really love my Alien! Great handgun. If you limited on the number of pistols you are allowed to own, like me in Germany, sooner or later you will buy the best gun you can afford. Price is secondary in that case. I saved two years for a good cometition pistol, and then Laugo Arms released the Alien. It was love on first sight, and I dont regret spending so much money. I waited 8 month for mine. I think their strategy to compete in the upper price segment of high quality cometition guns is the right decision. Why competing in a market segment domonated by the big players like Glock? It may not be the best bang for your money, but it is the best bang you can buy, and it is technically unique. I have one of the first 500 produced, so whatever happens, the gun will only go up in value.
Well said. I mean the price is still high even for the German market, but we're used to high prices anyways. I mean a S&W 686 that goes for 899 USD list price in the US is in stores for 1399 Euros in Germany for example.
On German gun ranges, you're not used to seeing pistols below the 1500 Euro mark at all because people can't just buy and sell guns like in the US, we are aiming for the highest possible quality for every slot on our gun licence. The law forces us to be active in competitions, and so you're just trying to get the best. The hobby is expensive around here anyways, so a thousand more or less for one of your competition guns doesn't make that much of a difference to a lot of people.
You also have to acknowledge that the Alien for the high price comes with a high quality red dot sight plus iron sights that can be changed in seconds, plus a competition belt and holster. Those extras could easily cost a thousand bucks if bought seperately. It's a pure bred race gun for dynamic competition shooting.
Anyone know what jacket James is wearing? I can’t afford the pistol but I like the jacket.
Was wondering the same.
found anything? lol
People are so salty that this gun is 5k. It's not made for the average person it's made for pro shooters it's a race gun for competition. Not for a nightstand by your bed not for carry its for pros. You shouldn't be butt hurt over a gun that's not made for you anyway.
Amazingly cool gun that i absolutely love but this will never be successful in the U.S. market at that price point.
They sold out though, idiots will pay it and I guess you have rarity too.
"It's $5000".
*coughs.
I absolutely love the concept Engineering of this gun. Very innovative. Love the red dot not moving and the muzzle recovery being so quick and so small. I don't even have a concern of paying 5K. I payed much more for a SIG P210, or about the same for a SIG P226 X6 or an STI (actually more). My fear is that, at this price point, most people won't buy it, and it would make the company struggle. Will this company be here to support this 5K purchase in 1 year? In 10 years? That is my concern. Are they sustainable? In lieu of they "signature series", would it have been a better step to start with the basic gun around $1500 to $2,000? SIG's P226 Legion RX SAO is around that price with the Co-Witnessed optic (and that's SIG - a world class company with decades of history, hundreds of people on staff in multiple countries, etc.). Can they make it?
The company will most likely stay, if you watch the video they stated that first batch is already sold in Europe, American is sold out by now. And they have the money to expand the production in future years and release more affordable versions. Also they have gun shop in Prague and import guns localy, so they are on a good way to stay.
@@kibicz I ordered mine 3 months ago (when I posted this). I am expecting to have it towards the end of the of this month (May) or perhaps first week of June. I believe they sold out everything for the U.S. - I wish them great success. I know they are a bit expensive but I believe that you get what you pay for. Thanks for the nice and kind words!
BY the way - I ordered mine in February and here we are in August and they don't know when they will deliver. I am giving it till September, after that, I am asking for a refund. Note that the folks are the company have ALWAYS returned my Email and ALWAYS responded in a VERY professional manner.
It's so cool when someone with a genuinely good idea is allowed to bring it to fruition.
$5,000. dollars? AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I remember when videos of this pistol first surfaced that one commenter pleaded with manufacturers to work out all the kinks, maintain good relationships with their suppliers, and try not to offer it for ridiculously high MSRP. The same commenter predicted what would happen to the Hudson H9 and then was so impressed with this design that he didn't want to see it happen again.
The price makes sense considering the cost of tooling and scale of production. Also these are signed first runs. I hope it evolves and scales up so we can afford it.
I heard that little throat clearing when he said 5k. You know he was trying to hold in the laughter.
This is going to be like the FK BRNO, priced way to high and selling far to few to stay in business.
Yup that was a huge bust
They need to pull a ruger and make the caliber accessible in an affordable gun. Love the idea of the caliber but fuck that pricetag
That is definitely cool. I can't wait to see when the reviewers get them for videos.
All these comments of from people shopping from their own pocket books. For high end owners, $5K is nothing compared to a safari double rifle for $250K. This pistol is gonna sell like wild fire to people who aren't us commenting on a TH-cam vid lol
Exactly.
I didn't realize that market existed.
If their safe isnt first already filled with custom 1911s and custom revolvers. If I was making a few mil a year I'd buy one eventually
So what you're saying is they'll sell like hotcakes to all of... what, a couple hundred people at best?
@@L1LegoAnimations thousands upon thousands will sell in the U.S. market. If you have never worked in the higher end industry, you would never know. Their is a gun range in SoCal I vend to that has a $10,000 lifetime membership fee and they have about 3,000 members and growing.
Gotta say; seeing them with their hand/fingers in front of the barrel throughout the video gives me the heebee-jeebees.
$5000.00?!!!
"Good LORD, that's a lot'a money!!! How'bout I give ya a buck-fiddy an'you can lemme get a foam insert in the shape of the pistol instead?"
Rekn what would TREE FIDDY gemme?
Yaaaasss was hoping James would cover this gun. Subscribed.
Someone get James a stool
TheRichard250 his neck has to be hurting from looking up all day
If reliability is there I bet it will become popular in competitions. Some of those comp pistols are more than the 5k tag.
"We love the technology" weve had gas delayed pistols before. For $5k that thing had better shoot lasers or explosive ammo
And be select fire
The question James should have asked is who hell is this gun for!? 5k for a pistol? Nobody is gonna take this company seriously.
Lol availability on April 1st is perfect :D
Ok, that's a clever design. Yeah, you'd expect a wristy and a signed picture of James in his short shorts as a bonus for that price.
I love how the release date is April 1st cause if you spend $5000 dollars on this gun you are a fool.
@Somarik Green True! Try getting an original SIG P210 for 5K
If you think that this pistol is ultra expensive, remembers the FK Brno 7.5 pistol with around $7500 MSRP which basically a CZ 75 styled pistol that can shoot a very high velocity round that equals with .44 magnum.
For only $5000? I’ll take 3 lol!
I’d rather buy a machine gun
Market determines value. They already sold all 500 of the "Collector's Signature Launch Edition". That means that those 500 Laugo pistols were indeed worth $5000 to the people who bought them. People pay far more for 1st editions than the eventual retail price for the mass release all the time. 1st edition things like books, gaming systems, watches, toys, cars often go for elevated prices. When this thing hits mass retail I would imagine the price at $650-$1150.
its strange to hear my language on TFB :D
Reminds me of my beloved 22 Browning Buckmark and S&W model 41... Inherently accurate since the sights and the barrel are one solid piece.
I can't wait for the forgotten weapons video on this in a few years.
I just can't wait until a company actually incorporates it into an actual production pistol at a reasonable price.
The price just turns me off, I guess they don’t have dreams of widespread adoption.
im guessing its more towards uspca shooters
I have a feeling they think that the US citizens are just filthy rich and that we wipe our ass with that kind of money. Rude reality shock in coming...
Gary J it’s an insult to even suggest a price like that, and it’s not like the brand has some long history. You can buy an entire arsenal for the price of that one pistol.
Paul Barclay lmao things a douchebag says for $200 Alex. Get a life dude.
@@garyj449 Same price in Europe. These are first production guns, next batches are going to be cheaper. But without multiple rails (one with red dot) in a package.
Get over it - it's a competition pistol, not plastic el cheapo Glock. Obviously, it's not going to make you magically a better shooter, no gun will.
Give it a polymer frame for the production run and sell it for under 1.5k and you will have a huge hit. Not at 5k though. I'll still be following this gun with alot of interest.
With the fixed barrel housed in the grip module, I don't see this gun working with polymer...
One too many 0's for me
yea it aint for the average joe that works a 9-5 n got wife n kids its more for competition shooters
When is a threaded barrel going to be released?
When you´re Czech and you understand all they´re saying :D ...
And slovak mate. You czechs have short memory.
@@marlboro9tibike Lol man :D I just mentioned myself :D CoolBro :D
when you're slovak and you can understand all they're saying.. there ya go.
Without the bump of the rear sight, I wonder how well can you rack the slide back when your hands are wet or tired or just under stress.
Sorry. No pistol is worth that much. It would have to load itself, never miss, and clean itself to be worth that much.
I held one today, the man next to me picked one up!! 11 month wait
It’s top notch , high quality feel!
But 5k , to much silver
At first I thought $5,000.00 was crazy, but when I heard what's his face was signing it, I'd buy four. One for each wing of the mansion I'll be buying to house them.
Rogak had this gas delay system a while ago and the Dreyse from the early 1900s had the removable top / separate slide concept. Rogak! Rogak!
I never realized how short James is
Meanwhile on every super car TH-cam video: 200k?! No thanks, I'll keep my bus pass.
FN Browning 1900
There is nothing new under the sun
Ecclesiastes 1:9
Well, I'm not familiar with that pistol model, but the Alien surely seems similar to a P7 except that the gas chamber is on top. I wish people wouldn't throw around the "revolutionary" adjective that much. Some called the P356 revolutionary when in fact it was only "better". I am not aware of any revolutionary stuff since the first aimpoint red dot.
@@sogerc1 In this day and age if at the mere mention of any news you don't go on social media and act like the loudest most unhinged person in the world for a full minute and do the "mind blown" gesture for another solid minute, you might as well be dead or in a coma.
Odd that Ecclesiastes was written before guns were invented.
With a barrel that low, perhaps feeding is more reliable. The cartridges don't have to tilt up into the barrel. They can pretty much go straight ahead by the looks of it.
Oh boy. 5k.
Lol “Believe it or not it happened by chance. He called me.” 😂😂
Seeing shades of the 7.5 FK Brno Field Pistol.
Only this is 9mm(?).
I look forward to watching TH-camrs get a T&E, reviewing it, shooting it and then sending it back And never hearing about it again.
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🐍 no step on SNEK!🇺🇸🇭🇰
Giving a thumbs up for the video is only for James and tfb TV. As for the pistol, there's no reason in the world this fire should cost $5,000 and it is definitely not earth shattering amazing. They made a pistol with a fixed Barrel and so has Walther almost a century ago. The common guide rod under the barrel design is just how pistols are made 99.99% of the time. Like the Rhino revolver they just flipped a couple of things but people commonly just buy revolvers the way they've been made. In the video around 1 minute mark we can see that it's recoil spring over Barrel and because the barrel is mounted lower in the magazine well to chamber throat it's just a little different. It would have been easier having to recall spring over the barrel like a Walther PPK. There's no reason to worry of patent infringement but any firearm company with the machining to make a firearm could easily and simply put the spring over the barrel but why reinvent the wheel.
I think Laugo is going to be laughed out of the country.
Jeff Liggett he just asks the same questions other than that he’s one of my top 10 gun channels
If you can't afford it then they don't want your money.
Why can't some people understand that some business strategies favor low volume high margins?
Do you look at a Bently and make the same dumb comment?
@@TheOwenMajor Exactly, same reason there are $5000 ARs. Except the Alien almost justifies the price, whereas an AR is still an AR.
Well they only need the rich or pro sport shooters to not laugh and they'll be fine.
@@chadington6029 and I'm sure all 5 of their potential buyers will be very happy.
Can you just put recoil spring around the barrel?
I think this is really cool but way out of my price rang ever. I'd rather slowly buy 10 different guns.
On their site they are taking "Pre-orders" for the signature edition, still $5,000. This price for - WHAT exactly? According to the site, apparently the big deal is the fixed barrel that "...eliminates movement during the firing cycle, resulting in exceptional accuracy". Well heck, my ruger 22/45 has that, and so does my $300 Bersa Thunder - and as it happens fixed barrel feature DOES in fact make guns more accurate... but other than that its a mighty high price just to have a gun that looks like it came from "Star Wars". I don't know what the maker (Czechoslovakia based Lancer arms) was thinking when they set their pricing how they did, but I'd be interested to know how many (and to whom) of these pistols they've sold so far - who would look at this gun and think "gotta have it"?
Come on guys join me in crippling debt. I placed my order yesterday lmao.
lol same... I seriously wonder how many are left...
@@AdventInnovative Bring it here Alien colleague. Let's hold hands and pray this isn't another Hudson. lmao.
If I hit the lottery I'll buy one .
they’re out if their minds for 5k better make me a sandwich with that price. yeah jts neat and all but uh no
"out of their minds"
Guaranteed the Pre-orders will sell out. This isn't an everyman's gun. This is for the racers. It's somewhat comparable to a tricked out 2011 or Czechmate in price. Just because it's out of your price range doesn't mean it's overpriced. It's not like it costs as much to make as a Glock and then they ratchet the price up to 11. Considering all the design and engineering that went into this, along with the fact that it's low production, yeah, it's gonna be expensive. They're they only company making a gun like this, and from what I've heard it actually makes a massive difference.
Much like Ferraris and Lamborghinis, this is a specialty piece. It's expensive, it's more than most people could spend on a gun, but it's certainly not without cause, and people will eat this up.
Comes with a cool range bag tho
@@michigan9564 Who has me fooled brotendo? And about which part?
those things will sell easily to collectors and racers, both have more money than sense. its like with supercars or watches.
@@michigan9564 Are you?
If you ever visit a place where competition shooters gather, you will be very suprised at what kind of money they deck out for their tools.
It's an awesome design and the terrific concept... But I don't have to have $5,000 just for one pistol!
To be perfectly honest that muzzle flip didn't look like anything special at all. For 5,000 you could just buy a few race guns LOL. Very innovative not very effective..
This is pretty much exactly how I've been saying for years handguns need to start getting designed in order for us to better take advantage of precision, materials and accessories, as well as physics. So kudos to them for putting it all together. I'd say it's about $3500 above where it should be though. Sure I know you need to recoup your years worth of R&D costs, but by only catering to the very high end specialty market, you're most likely not going to do it. Make that available to the masses though for mid to upper mid prices, and it would be a very hot seller.
Spend 5k or just comp a Glock 19 and have the same performance 🤔
right u can build a rolan special glock 19 and buy ammo/magazines / take some classes for way less
Since when TF do we rack or check pistols from the muzzle end?!?
Ah TFB, where people refuse to understand why the firearm equivalent of a Maserati isn't priced like a preowned Toyota with a ruined engine.
There really is a prevailing theme with a lot of people that this pistol should be priced the same as say a glock and anything else is madness
Nothing about that mechanism demands that it be built to the standards of a top-end 2011. It's premium for the sake of premium - they're taking advantage of being the only game in town.
Muzzle flip is more than I'd expect.
james is short
Not really, those are just big dudes.
Step 1. Sell my kidney
Step 2. Purchase this weapon