My long term Yeti SB130 Lunch Ride Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
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Size medium Turq SB130 Lunch Ride: bit.ly/YetiSB130CLR2022JKW
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PNW Components Range bars, cut to 760mm: bit.ly/PNW2022RangeBarsJKW
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Maxxis Assegai 2.5 WT front tire, Double Down: bit.ly/MaxxisAssegai2022JKW
Maxxis Aggressor 2.5 WT rear tire, Double Down: bit.ly/MaxxisAgressor2022JKW
Other bikes I'm comparing to the SB130:
Ibis Ripmo AF: bit.ly/RipmoAF2022gxJKW
Ibis Ripmo V2: bit.ly/RipmoV22022JKW
Ibis Ripley AF: bit.ly/RipleyAF2022JKW
Orbea Occam LT: bit.ly/OrbeaOccamLT2022jkw
Evil Offering V2: bit.ly/EvilOffering2022jkw
Big shout to my sponsors! Thanks to Jenson USA, PNW Components, Industry Nine, and Shimano- and any purchases from the below links to Jenson USA will help support my channel:
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Riding technique differences between hardtails and full suspension: / 60435182
How to rut track: / 59366938
5 tips to make flat trails more fun: / 58058983
5 tips to improve bike control and balance: / 56839920
How to levitate out of corners: / 55607066
Three simple cornering tips: / 54371316
How (and when) to rock roll or drop: / 53126562
How to jump with fluidity- and not DEAD SAILER! / 51914476
How to Lanual: / 50695443
How to climb ledges without a bunny hop: / 49476021
Which brake to use when: / which-brake-to-48108425
Different bikes, different riding techniques: / 46925782
How to ride FLAT PEDALS through the ROCKS: / how-to-ride-flat-45662347
How to ride wet roots and steep chutes: / 44507851
How to ride with style: / how-to-ride-with-43349450
How to jump for height vs distance: / 42202183
Common manual questions answered: / 41006264
How to land jumps: / 39928153
My 3 favorite skills drills: / if-i-could-only-38809964
How to manual: / how-to-manual-37684861
Cutty: / 36579859
Manual a berm: / 35496772
How to ride in Sedona: / 34436065
Switchbacks: / 3-ways-to-33345804
Nosewheelie: / 32742504
Bump jump: / 31881231
Trials basics for trail riders: / 31145344
Tight berms: / 30389457
Aggressive braking: / 29579507
Confidence for mountain biking: / 28817411
Cornering: / 27981205
Flowing/pumping down the trail: / 27288868
Stoppie through turns: / 26296762
Technical climbing: / 25234847
Boost jumps: / 24161821
Bunnyhop: / 23396959
How to wheelie: / 21879606
0:00 Chapters
0:54 Disclosures
2:30 Rear suspension
3:18 Cascade Link
4:04 LMNT
5:13 Geometry
6:30 Cornering
7:00 Frame flex: why it's OK
8:00 Climbing
8:28 SB130 and my road trip
9:15 Parts and Build Spec
11:47 Issues/Problems
13:18 SB130 vs Ibis Ripmo
14:23 SB130 vs Ripley AF
15:27 SB130 vs Orbea Occam
16:25 SB130 vs Evil Offering - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video. To get your sample pack, go to DrinkLMNT.com/Jeff
Thanks dude, I appreciate that!!! I was a little bummed I didn't have my good microphone here for this video, but thought I'd experiment with using a non-endemic sponsor to make this video happen. Thanks for watching!!!
LMNT is great stuff- one of the best hydration tools around
Jeff: "I'm a horrible bike reviewer!"
All of us: You are literally the best bike reviewer.
This guy have permanent helmet hair. Respect ✊
Run what ya brung!
@@JeffKendallWeed 👍👍Happy New Year! Thanks for all the stoke and awesome videos!
Love Jeff’s videos. Always comes across as genuine and a nice guy. Highly entertaining. Thanks
Love the video Jeff! If I’m being honest I’m not even sure why I watch review videos though, as I’m still completely stoked with my two bike Knolly quiver. I very much enjoy watching your riding, and learning from it. I visualize you when I’m really trying to dig in to my cornering, lol! I think it helps, and some days I really feel like I’m shredding ☺️.
I’d love to see you do a similar review of the pivot switchblade. Seems like a bike that fits nicely in that same sort of category. Thanks for the content Jeff, you shred and it’s fun to watch. Makes me wanna plan a riding trip up to WA!
Based on your previous reviews and comparisons of the Occam, I picked one up in early 2021 from my local shop. I really appreciated your review and how you said that the Occam is more comfortable at 'slower' speeds. As much as I like to think I'm EWS fast, my Strava says otherwise. After testing multiple bikes and hearing your explanation, it made my decision a lot easier. I couldn't be happier with the Occam and have fun on it every time I ride it. Keep up the good work!
Occam is a such a great bike. I can admit it :)
I appreciate the transparency! Great review
Thanks for the long-term review. I’ve ridden a Yeti SB-130TLR for the last couple of years and wasn’t able to try out many many other trail bikes before getting it, so your review makes me realize I lucked out and got the right bike for me with the Yeti.
Right on Dave! Yea, we've really enjoyed both SB130s- the one that Yeti loaned me, and the one we subsequently bought.
I agree love my '22 sb130 clr.
I have rented the ibis ripmo v2 and the Evil following on trail rides. Settled on the yeti. It looks better then them all. But everyone jumps on the ripmo band wagon, see all the time.
Such a great review. Such an awesome rider. Such a good guy. Keep them coming.
Awesome review Jeff!! You rode a lot of great bikes in 2021. Thanks for sharing your feedback. Happy New Year to you and your family. Cheers !!
Jeff, thanks for the comparison, and Happy New Year! I recently purchased an Orbea Occam LT based on your review and love the trail geo and plush suspension. Love your videos and riding style.
Right on mang, the occam is cool! It's indeed a very different bike than the Yeti, too!!!
I love your sponsor declaration...on to the review :) respect
Been on my sb130lr for 2 years. Nobl wheelset, m7 brakes, oneup cockpit with x2 on the rear. The little bike that can do it all up here on the North Shore.
I was fortunate to get a SB130 TLR with full XT build back in June. This bike is phenomenal and I look forward to every chance I get to ride it. It’s definitely a bike that Gets better the harder you push it and rewards an active rider.
I totally agree I got my SB130 TLR XT build in September and love how the harder I push it the more rewarding the ride is.
Right on Boone! I agree that the harder you push the SB130, the better it performs. I really like that.
It’s a great bike! Very good and comprehensive review!
I do like the way you test. The only way to get a real feel for how a frame really works is to rule out any other variables that can change the way things feel!
JKW, love that intro. Hey, you know as well as the rest of us....When you gotta go, you gotta go. Seize the op when you can. Thanks for the long term review, was curious how you fared after a year. Back to the video now.
I just got a 130lr and wanted some ride thoughts. Definitely spot on about how the yeti wants to be ridden. Never have I thought about what a bike wants till now! Lol
Hi from Albuquerque!
Awesome video, thankyou. And thankyou for putting your cards upfront re. Sponsors. Helps a lot 👍
Thank you Joel! I am very disappointed in some of the mainstream media that consistently breaks federal trade commissions guidelines by not disclosing when a reviewed brand is also a paying advertiser.
That's looks so awesome! SB130 is great!
I have SB150 but I had a ride with the SB130 so I know a bit how it feels :)
Have fun in 2022 mate!!! Happy new year ! 🎉🎈🎆
Thanks Pozitivi, happy new years!
@@JeffKendallWeed 🏁🎊✅🔟/🔟
Demo’d an SB130 a couple of years ago. GX, Fox 36 factory, XT brakes, DT Swiss 1700 wheels. Loved it! Curious to see what the next iteration of this bike will look like.
This is the update, I believe. If you have the funds go out and get one! It’s a fantastic bike of you like to go fast with skill instead of having a plusher suspension do all the work for you.
I have not heard of any updates, but I am also not "on the inside" when it comes to Yeti.
Jeff, that was such a thorough and honest and unafraid to be subjective to your prefs and riding style review. Thanks for the great ibis, occam, evil comparisons - that really brings it home for me in context. Here in the bay area Santa Cruz bikes are so dominant, everywhere really I suppose along with Specialized, but I found that Ibis just works for me and I almost ritually stick to Ibis. I had been dying to try a 130LR in my size, buddy has a large, but not so easy to find a demo. I tried an SB 150 in Moab and it was a stiff monster truck, truly amazing but not the way I tend to ride, not even there. Moved to a Ripmo in Moab (3rd time trying one) and was again just so happy. Funny enough I have always been a medium on Ibis and most bikes but the Ripmo is so much better for me in a small. Reading through the geo it makes sense and the geo of the 130 is not that far off.
So it was recently time to replace my XO carbon wheel Mojo 3 and I wanted to go up to 29 and supply chain willing found a Ripley AF. For the Bay Area a ripmo despite being my favorite bike right now is way overbiked. Ripley is the perfect bike for around here and the extra bit of slack in the AF is sweet. Contrary to all my biases the Alu frame and Deore build is insanely capable for 3K and with all the savings got a gucci set of onyx carbon wheels and money left over for a hard tail. At some point will get a used Ripmo AF for Tahoe, Downieville, Oregon.
Annnnd of course now watched this and MUST TRY THE LR! So it goes. But I also don't have your super aggressive riding style so I am guessing the ripmo is more me. Don't stop making these. I'm ready to order some LMNT just to support you.
True that on the "over biked". As bad as I wanted the Rocky Altitude, it was indeed too much bike for my local trails and skill level. I appreciate your sincerity in your reviews!
Thanks Alejandro!
Really good review. Your reviews are better than you give yourself credit!
Great Stuff Jeff 😉 happy new year over the Pond buddy have a good 2022 🚴🏿♂️😉👌🏴🏴👌
Happy new year! Thanks man!
Awesome video man
Thanks for turning me on to WTB tires and the PNW dropper. Great for PNW trail conditions! Also, I've been on Shimano for over 35 years with no problems. There's reliability for you.
Thank you Jason! I like the WTB 2.6 tires, but have been enjoying the Maxxis back in the PNW. Maxxis MaxGrip rubber feels awesome in the wet and slimy. That said, I'm in Sedona at the moment, and kind of prefer the WTB 2.6 over the Maxxis 2.5 WT for the dry rocks here. And the 2.6 WTB has helped the Offering out a bunch. PNW stuff is solid, I really like those guys and the stuff they make!
YO! this is all I wanted a TRUE and honest review. Just say how you really feel and think about the bike. Don't do it for the sponsors do it for the viewers. All those bikes you mentioned have been on my mind. Every angle was covered in this review. You've earned every right to ask us to support you!
Thanks Vincent! I'm pretty happy with this video, as the stuff I reported is all very real. I do really like this bike- to the point that we actually bought one. I
Bravo Jeff!!
wow i just realized this is a mtb review i thought it was a mountain bike video your a amazing rider!
Great review Jeff, I had watched a lot of reviews including yours and hours of research on a number of bikes before I purchased a new SB 130 LR Turq in September in Australia. It ticked a lot of boxes for me and yes you have to ride it aggressively to get the most out of it, but that's what makes it so much fun to ride. My Meta Am hasn't really had a look in since the Yeti arrived, because it does everything so well. I'm taking it to Tasmania in a few weeks to race the Trans Tas enduro and can't wait to hit Maydena bike park and Derby's EWS trails on it. Keep up the good work Jeff and damn I wish I could manual like you do🤘🤘
Thanks Brendan! Glad you're enjoying the SB130, enjoy that trip to Taz! Derby sure looks fun, and good luck in the race!!!
@@JeffKendallWeed Thanks Jeff, I rode Derby a couple of years ago and it was awesome I'm hangin to hit those rocky trails again.
Great review Jeff.
Thanks Be!
Thanks for the videos, you. really provide one of the more enjoyable and informative mtb videos out there. I’ve had Ripmo v2 and Jekyll, but I love my SB130, it just handles so much more than you’d think it can. For the majority of what i ride in San Diego it’s perfect, but I also take it to mammoth, and for that reason I’ve thought about converting to an LR. Would value your feedback / opinion on the difference between the two versions to help me decide if I should.
Really enjoy watching your videos. Have a off topic question. I just bought a new trust message fork. Got it really cheap. I will be putting it on a 2019 stump jumper short travel alloy 27.5. 130 mm travel front and back. What do you think, will it be ok. Also since the fork can also handle a 29 wheel I might try a mullet. Happy New Year.
I demo'd an sb130 and rode it on ranger creek at hwy410 by rainier. It's an excellent Backcountry bike.
Ooh I recognize some of those Anacortes trails! Some fun pedally ones over there.
Any experience between the Hightower and SB130?
Thank you for the video. I'm looking at an all mountain 29er and this has been a good comparison and review.
Such a sick review! How would you compare the SB130LR with the evil offering? Currently cross-shopping the two (or the evil wreckoning/insurgent mx)
I had to choose between the SB130 and V2 Ripmo this past summer and went with the Ripmo. I absolutely love riding the SB130 though... fast, efficient, well rounded --all true. If I could afford a second bike it would be the SB130.
Right on Manjushri! A Ripmo/Sb130 stable is a good one, though the bikes aren't really that far apart. I'd love a Ripmo/hardtail stable TBH!
I was nervous to watch this as i recently brought a LR130, and I dont normaly read or watch reviews after i buy a bike. But due to being a fan of your videos, i thought I'd risk it. Happy with your views, and loved the previous video of you taking the motorbike and mtb to the mountains. Ripping up berms is fun, but so is getting out away from civilisation and just enjoying nature
Thanks Lewis, I appreciate that!
Nice review.
What are your thoughts on the Commencal Meta TR Race to the SB130 LR?
I know the biggest thing is alloy and carbon. I kind of wanted to see from a performance standpoint since the Commencal has high end components.
Great review. Great rider. Nice bike 💪
Thanks Alfredo!
Hi Jeff,
Great ride vids.
Are you able to review the Intense Primer comparing the SB130LR?
Thanks George! I haven't been planning on more Intense stuff, it's just sadly not as relevant as it once was. The Tazer I rode in 2020 was great, that was a really fun bike. I bet the Primer would ride well, but if I'm going to allocate a lot of resources to making a legit review, I gotta do my best to either keep in the mainstream, or about something that's just so weird that it'll get some interest!
Jeff, great review and informative of the SB 130 LR. Perhaps a Yeti SB 150 could be next?
Thanks Joel! And ya, I was originally requesting the SB150 but Yeti didn't have a demo available at the time.
+1 for a review of the SB150 and comparison to the 130LR
I have an sb130 and I love it! Maybe I’ll lunch ride it out eventually!
Right on Tyler! I'd say extend the fork travel first, that's pretty affordable and pretty easy to do. Rear shock will help some, but won't be as noticeable as the fork.
Fingers crossed Jenson can lend you a Santa Cruz Bronson to demo & review. Would love to hear your take on it and see if your opinion on mullets changes from your HD5 experiment (I did the same experiment and agree the bike is a bit too slack/unbalanced). I just built up the Bronson and it is SO much fun.
Anyways, keep up the great content! Your channel & riding style is the reason I got into MTB & went out and bought the Ibis HD4 & HD5. Still working on the manual everywhere part.....
Thanks man! Probably not going to do any SCB soon since Jenson can only sell them in the shop, but with how hard it is to get even a review bike, I might be able to make that happen! As for mullets, the Chromag has totally grown on me. The bigger tires and CushCore helped immensely, though it still sucks now on jumps. But on most trails I ride, there aren't many BMX jumps, so it's not that big of a deal. The HD5 might feel better with more miles on it as a mullet, but I still prefer matching 29!
Hi Jeff,
I live in Phx and wonder which of your bikes you prefer to ride at places like Somo, Sedona, Hawes? I have a Med Offering and a large Ripmo. The Offering has quicker handling and likes to jump which makes it a lot funner. The Rip peddles and bombs downhill a little better. Interested in the SB130, so just curious what you like for chunky Az?
2:04 - 2:14 was so sick I can't even finish the video I'm just looping these 10 seconds!
Maaannnn..... I just bought a Ripley a month ago and I was looking hardcore at the SB130 LR. I really wanted something that climbs well for the trails here in Phoenix, but I almost pulled the trigger on the 130 and now you're making me second guess the decision! Need to find one to try out..
Oh shoot sorry about that! Hahaha well no bike is forever. Ripley is a great bike, and for Hawes and McDowell it'll be a great set up. For South Mountain, a Ripmo is hard to beat. I'd love to try an SB150 down there too!
The SB130LR is impressive at 10/10ths - you can certainly appreciate it's race heritage. Below that pace, it can feel a bit harsh and unforgiving - you need to ride it surprisingly aggressively or it will punish small mistakes, which can make it a touch unnerving. In isolation, it's an incredibly well designed and built bike (it also has internal guides for cables - fantastic). I come from a background riding street/jump bikes, and it genuinely felt like the bike was able to shrink around me - the geometry numbers are nearly perfect.
I personally found running closer to 25% sag actually made for a faster bike that I felt more comfortable on (I was also running maximum volume spacers in the DPX2).
We have a lot of very slow, technical, rocky terrain where I ride and the 130 felt a bit under-biked for me, so I eventually moved on to a Pivot Firebird, which I prefer for my riding style and it suits my local trails better.
After swapping, I found the Firebird very impressive: it ticked the same playful, supportive boxes of the 130 but provided much more 'meat' for the really nasty stuff - and with that came a good deal more confidence. It also doesn't require minor servicing every six weeks, which is what I had to do to keep the Switch Infinity in good order on the 130, where our trails are quite often boggy and sandy after rain. Without regular attention, it would wear the bushings and develop play.
100% agree on the flex argument - people make far too much fuss about it without understanding it provides grip in the right areas.
Thanks for the feedback Oliver! I've still never ridden a Pivot, but have one lined up for a few days in January.
@@JeffKendallWeed Ohh, yes please Jeff, cannot wait for your review on the Pivot Firebird, especially considering how well you ride and handle these bikes in all sorts of terrain - please keep us posted - the reviews on this thing are insane!
Hey Jeff, any updates on nabbing a Pivot Firebird?
Interesting man! From which country you from? We have also alot of slower parts and sometimes my yeti doesnt feel perfekt for that
Soooo good. I'm curious what anyone would say to compare the SB130 LR and SB150? Thank you
Your initial impressions video (along with a demo from my LBS) definitely impacted my decision to get the 130LR. I sized up with my yeti for additional downhill stability and this bike is quick. Every time I get out for a ride it puts a big smile on my face. It really does climb like a goat and descends like an equally fast down hill goat! Availability also impacted my purchase decision, but I have absolutely no regrets and am keen for next season.
Ironic, as sb130/150 is usually a downsize bike, regardless of downhill stability.
Glad to hear you like it! We bought one as well, so clearly I'm a fan of this bike. If all I rode was way gnar stuff, I'd want to go bigger, but for an all-around bike in most places in the world, the SB130 is a great option!
@@fcbotieno It could be that I'm just in between sizes. I test rode a size L and it wasn't the best set up for me. The shop didn't have the greatest contact points on it (narrow-ish bars and well used diety composite pedals which were NOT confidence inspiring), but I felt a bit cramped on the bike. I could definitely play around on the trail, but when I rode more difficult or steep features the bike felt squirrely, that's why I sized up. Sizing up definitely worked in my favour for the style of riding I prefer! I can still jib around and move the bike how I want to, but with added stability at speeds. I do need to up the volume spacers in the rear, but I'm heavier than most riders
Thanks. I'm 186cm my style I'd go for a L. What are your dimensions and how do you like it?
@@fcbotieno I'm also 186cm, and am 95kg. I guess my arms are a bit longer, I found the reach on the L a bit short for my preferences. The jump between my previous bike and 130LR was 3cm greater reach and about 4cm greater wheel base. I don't find the bike too long at all and probably should have been riding an XL frame all along. I prefer riding black and double black technical trails. I haven't gotten to ride any jump trails on the bike yet, but the drops/jumps I have ridden have felt great (likely due to the increased dimensions compared to my other bike)
The 27.5” version of this bike, the SB140, is a great bike as well.
Right on James!
Dude, I've love to see you do a review of the 2021 Devinci Troy. I know Jenson carries them ;-)
The 2022 SB130 comes with a Fox Float X. Do you think a Fox Float X2 would be nice on this bike?
This dude LOVES LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!
Great review Jeff! I love how you ride and "review" some of my favorite bikes. I've owned the 130 LR and currently own a V2 Ripmo (with a Forbidden Druid in between) I'm a shade under 5'10" and typically ride size L bikes. All and all I loved the 130 but I think I would have preferred it in a M. With its need for speed and longer reach, it became a bit more of a handful unless ridden hard. I found that for me the Ripmo is just a bit of a better all rounder for my riding style. I've been on an Offering a few times but found the HA a bit on the steep side for my liking and didnt want to deal with a creaky angle set. Got the We Are One Arrival coming for next season, very excited. Had a few rides on one already and its really impressive. FYI, I've has Rocky's Pivot's and Yeti's all with PF bb's and never had an issue.
What a list of bikes! Man, I would love to take Arrival out for a burn. What a beautiful design.
How would you compare the 130 to the Druid? Thinking about selling my 130 to pick up a Druid because I love the high pivot suspension design
@@MrShortman4334 I really liked the Druid, its a great all rounder. It feels deeper, more plush and has better small bump sensitivity. I found it easier to corner with and ultimately a bit easier to ride over all. The 130 just wants to rip all the time and is definitely a faster bike while still being super fun to ride. It has a sportier feel and climbs a little bit quicker to.
Thanks Trailpops! I agree 100% on the Evil head angle, it's way too steep. I have had a great experience with the 1° Works Components angleset that Evil sells, not even the slightest loosening or noise. It's FAR better than the old Cane Creek Anglesets. I also use a 160 fork on there. Enjoy the Arrival, I'd love to get on one, but haven;t figured out how to make that happen yet!
@@JeffKendallWeed I should have my Arrival sometime around March, you're welcome to it anytime. I'm in the BC Interior so not too terribly far from you. Or I was actually thinking about a spring trip to Bellingham.
They're nice bikes, I rented an sb150 for the Whistler valley trails. They are absurdly expensive for analogue bikes though.
Would love to see a review of this bike with a rear coil shock!
Would love to hear your thoughts on the transition spur
Great review on an excellent bike. So many awesome bikes to chose from these days, too bad they all cost more than my dirt bike, and, hardly any of them are available these days! Oh well, maybe someday!
The availability is a funny thing- they come and go in waves! This summer the SB130s were pretty good on availability, now they all gone. I wish they cost the same as a dirt bike- any decent trail bike from KTM/Husky is $11k, and dealers try to tack on another $1500 in BS fees BEFORE taxes, so the motos are a lot more $$$. Heck, a YZ250X is $9k where I live. Even the stripped down MX 2 strokes are $9k+. A comparably specced MTB would be around $6k.
Oh wow, yeah I ride a ktm250sx two stroke that I can get here in the Midwest for around 8 grand with no extra fees, but I've certainly heard of other places tacking on all kind of fees.
The sb130lr is definitely on my short list after seeing what you and nate hills can do on it.
I love my yeti sb130 personally
I may switch to shimano cranks from my sram cranks just because of the bb. I have gone through 2 of them in 6months both of them getting rust in the bearings. I live in England so 70% of my riding is in the wet (specially in winter) and can’t be asked to swap these bbs every 3 months…
I'm not surprised the cascade link doesn't do much to the Yeti given how progressive it is. For the Ripmo the cascade link is a massive game changer, makes that back end SO much more progressive, it looks like you do have the cascade link on your Ripmo V2. As a bigger rider I especially find it nice, I was able to go from 5 spacers to 3 in the Topaz rear shock and take 20psi out of the shock as well, the biggest improvement was on big hits, the stock linkage definitely blows through the travel on jumps and drops
Love my 140.
Right on!
nice vid thanks
Do you prefer the grip 2 or fit 4 on the 130?
I've always lusted after an Ibis despite the fact that the last bike I bought was a Trek Y-11 in the 90s (still have it). I'll likely never buy another bike b/c I'm turning 50, have two daughters in private school, about to start college, etc. demands on my resources, but you really made me want a yeti lunch ride - it sounds like a "sweet spot" of a bike to this novice
Thanks for the note Joel! What's wrong with turning 50? You're only 14 years older than me, go get yourself a decent bike and shred! Brian Lopes is like 56 or something, and he rips! Don't be afraid to check out the used market, but I'd probably go Ibis if I were getting a used bike. Yeti's Switch Infiniti system has been fine for me, but it does seem a little complex to own without a warranty. The Ripley AF is a great all-arounder, and it's like half the price of the SB130. Ripley is ~$3300 brand new, so ~$2000 used.
@@JeffKendallWeed ya, not the physicality of 50, the priorities, especially financial, of 50. maybe someday I'll splurge on the bike, but while it's high on the dream list, it's very low on the goals/values/vision board list
Get a Ripmo AF, it's probably one of the best bang for buck bikes on the market, the extra weight is no biggie for average joes like us, and it basically needs nothing out of the box save for maybe a brake upgrade if you plan to ride park.
@@JeffKendallWeed @mrvwbug44 k... since the oldest daughter got a full ride to college, the finances are breathing a sigh of relief and I'm taking the idea of a bike seriously. one of our local shops has some rentals including Ibis Ripmo AF, Yeti SB130 & SB 115, & some Pivits. I picked up the Ripmo AF this afternoon (just in time for a rain storm, and the World Games have some of the local trails closed). I'm going to give it a go for 2 or so days, then they recommended I try a Pivot for comparison & then the Yeti (this geometry is weird - my 1996 brain of 26" wheels, 3x drive train, long stem, extremely narrow bars, & pogo stick suspension doesn't compute with 29" wheels, 1x drive train, short stem, extremely wide bars, plush suspension, & dropper post...). thanks for the encouragement. I'll let you know how it goes
Thanks for another honest review…………
Thanks Shayne!
Bananas how hard they nailed this 4 years ago. Hardly needs an update.
Agreed, it's a solid set up.
Personally I agree: find it a but unhelpful when reviews focus on the drivetrains or trot out the same cliches about Sram v Shimano brakes, so it's useful to have the spec element taken out of the equation and to focus on the fundamentals of the bike. (There is a difference perhaps in what is required when reviewing the higher-level bikes aimed at more experienced riders, who are likely to swap out spec components, to what is required when looking at those bikes aimed at more entry-level riders, where some more basic information about the spec will be useful).
Hey Jeff, do you ever get a chance to ride Specialized bikes? I'd love to hear your thoughts on the new Stumpjumper (non evo, flex-stay version) vs the sb130..
Manny, I haven't been chasing the Specialized rabbit, but I'm not opposed to it. It's a lot more beneficial for me to deep dive into bikes that Jenson sells, but they do sell Specialized at their various brick and mortar locations- just not online. Only Specialized is able to sell Specialized bikes online.
@@JeffKendallWeed Thanks, yea I understand they can't sell them online at Jenson and such. I was just thinking it'd be cool to get your opinion, but I keep forgetting about your sponsors and how that makes more sense for you. Your skills manage to make every bike look awesome..Great riding as always 👌
Still undecided between sb 115 or sb 130, i usually ride on flat texas trails, and 2 or 3 trips to Arkansa and Sedona a year
Watched this video and just realized the Ibis during the sponsor part of it...lol. Great vid though.
I'd be curious to have you ride a Evil Following V3 or Revel Ranger. It's shorter travel than most of your bikes, but I think it might be an interesting.
Thanks Pavel! I’m working on getting a Revel in soon!
Any creacking from the press fit?
Grat video as alway🔥🤙🏼 was considering to get the sb130 but eventually took the sb150 which i absolutely love! Would be nice if you could try that one too. Would love to hear what you think about it✌🏼
Leverage ratio from sag is 2.5-2.3 so I'm not sure why you are saying it is so progressive. The Intense Primer goes from 3 to 2.25.
I got lucky and got a GT Force expert before prices jumped. It would be interesting to see how it compares to the Ripmo AF when running a 160/150 setup. I’m currently running it with a 170mm front fork and it cooks but doesn’t feel like a total boat despite the travel and the weight. The only things I can compare it to are a 2020 Trek Slash that I rented at Snowshoe WV and a 2021 Pivot Switchblade that I rented in Asheville NC. It absolutely is better than the Slash both pedaling and on any trails while the Switchblade climbs a bit better but isn’t as stable on the way back down.
Thanks for the feedback Anthony! I've got a Switchblade lined up for a few days in January, looking forward to that. I might get a GT in for testing in Q1 or Q2, we'll see what I can afford!
@@JeffKendallWeed I would highly recommend any of the alloy force models. I’ve been putting the expert model as much abuse as I can on my local trails and I can tell I’m not even scratching the surface of what it can do. Plus it is about a third of the cost of the highest end switchblade which meant I could actually afford it without selling a kidney.
@@JeffKendallWeed my 2021 switchblade is my favorite bike I’ve ridden/owned. The only bike I truly regret selling :(
Hi Jeff, have you replaced your frame bearings? My SB130 frame bearings were notched after 5 months of spring/summer riding. Have you ridden Kachess Ridge on your SB130LR? On that trail, I find that the progressive nature of the rear suspension is not ideal for riding over greasy PNW roots and rocks. I also find that the bike's behavior does not normalize until you reach the faster (20 MPH+) and smoother sections of the trail towards the bottom 1/3. I always wanted to own a Yeti, but my experience has been a tragedy in getting what you want.
I doubt Jeff would've replaced anything on the front of his bike. His front wheel is on the ground only 40% of the time, lol.
Hey Brian, I've had an upper link bolt get loose a few times, but I have not touched the switch infinity thing once since I got the bike. It's been tight and works fine. Notchy suspension bearings don't worry me at all, what worries me is when bearings are loose and the bike has slop in it. As for notchy bearings, trying to cycle an air shock with 0 psi in it requires a good 50-100 lbs of force (without a lever). The link bearings have far more leverage on them than even the shock, so if they are notching and need ~10lbs of force (directly, no lever) to move them, I don't notice it. But if they are notchy to the point that you need more than 10 lbs of force at the axle to move, then that's a noticeable thing. When i was working at Ibis I saw a lot of people replace link bearings prematurely. I'd often try out "old" or "bad" bearings, and they would feel absolutely fine on the trail- even at my relatively light weight.
Please get your hands on a SB150….. I really want to hear your thoughts and watch you rip on it in its element.
Whats your perferd stem length? I now you like 760 mm bars.
Great video Jeff! You have certainly piqued my interest for the SB130LR. I have a Hightower V2 and I'm finding that i much prefer mid-stroke support and predictability at high speeds over a plush plow feeling bike. This bike and WR1 Arrival for ultimate dream bike. I think everyone would love for you to get your hands on one of those!
Im definitely interested in hearing more about those 24h carbon enduro wheels that you mentioned YET NEVER showcased riding them! Curious about the overall feeling they offer.. Looks like they would breaK too easily for enduro purposes.
Also, I feel like you may mean the bike has a more “linear” leverage ratio which is why you had such good mid stroke support right?
Appreciate all the effort you put into these freakkn amazin review videos. I just love watching you push high end bikes to their limit
Peace out happy New Year!
Hey Jonathan, the vast majority of the riding shots in this video were with the 24 spoke wheels installed. I did a full video about these wheels back in the summer: th-cam.com/video/RhQRDisJgqY/w-d-xo.html
Originally i had the SB130LR then i switched to the SB150 and it made me think i was a really good rider straight lining through the chunky stuff. Now ive had to switch back to the lunch ride because i broke my sb150 frame. Its been a refreshing change but also an eye opener experience on how carelessly I’ve been riding the SB150. Trying to ride the same lines as the SB150 i feel like I’m a pretty below average rider but its been fun learning to find the smoother lines. Originally i was using a 50mm stem with a 20mm rise bar and it felt hard jumping on the 130 but now with a 32mm stem and a 35mm rise bar its soo much easier to jump. That just my 2cents worth
Sorry to hear about the busted 150, Sony! Swapping between different genres of bikes is one of the best ways to improve as a rider. Try a DH bike to really understand the ultimate of "plow", then ride an XC bike and feel true light weight. Then get an SB130/150 and you can borrow techniques from both of those!
QQ: what trail are you riding at the end
Hey mate whats the saddle on that bike?
What stem length are you rockin and bar rise. Thinking of going 35mm length stem and 20mm rise.
Hey Jon, I am really digging the 50mm stem. The bars are the PNW Range bars cut down to 760. They are not the latest version (v3), they are the old 31.8 v2. I have the new v3 on the Niner and really like them. Will be doing the V3 on the Occam shortly here.
i am 5'9 do I get a medium I have long arms is that fine with yeti size. chart. Thank you
Lol it was closer to ten k after I had to have enve bars. I don’t even have kashima fork or dropper. Bought because of this video. Impulse buy ftw.
I demo'd the SB130 and was impressed!
There is a section on the local trails I ride that is a series of three hills with a little tech. I could never clear it on the OG Ripley I had and my Ripmo ( this was probably a "me" problem..LOL.) after riding this section over 100 times according to my Strava. On a good day, I would do 2/3 of it!
When I rode this same section on the SB130, I cleared it the first time! I was in shock!...LOL. Perhaps the reason could be the Switch Infinity, tire or suspension setup? Who knows??
I'm a fan of Yeti bikes. I think they're great, but don't understand why consumers have to pay a 20-30% premium above Ibis bikes for example? Even a base build is almost as much as a higher end Ibis build. Furthermore, I heard that their support has issues such as they're stingy with warranty claims.
Warranty from yeti is pita... I wouldn't buy another one.
@@mnmarcus4070 I had an awesome experience with Yeti warranty. Sent couple of pics and they sent a new frame without any fuss. Just wanted to mention this so others would see a different perspective.
your a nice dude, man ! : )
will you be reviewing orbea rise hydro? very few proper reviews of that bike
I asked them for one the day they came out, and sure enough, they are only going to be able to get a carbon version my way- first world problems lol! It reminds me of Ripley V4 vs Ripley AF. The v4 is "fancier", but the AF is actually the bike I prefer! Wondering if the Rise Hydro will be like that...
@@JeffKendallWeed it's a bit heavier, as it's 21 kg I think with proper tyres, but it has 540 battery, which on paper gives amazing range for mega adventure spins. My only concerm is that 21 kg weight tho, as it's not a super light ebike anymore
If I didn’t think a new one was like imminently in release I would have bought it vs the sentinel that I just got
Ya know Mario, I have not heard of any updates to the Sb130, and I'm kind of struggling to think about what on the bike actually needs updated... It's all very current despite being a couple years old now. Kind of like the Ripmo.
I’d like to see you do a review ride session on the @pivotcycles Switchblade and Firebird
Thanks Bruce, I'm arranging for a Switchblade for a few days in January in Arizona!
@@JeffKendallWeed look forward to it
I ride a Revel Rascal and have farted around on a Yeti 130. The Yeti felt firmer and bit more capable. But, I could ride either bikes. You really cannot lose on these new bikes. Sorry but I would not spend 9k on a bike. I have GX on one bike and XT 12 on the other. Both are great but I like XT a bit more.
Did you find that you needed spacers in the shock?
I haven't taken a moment to crack the shock open and look to see what's in there. I have a hunch that mine already has a big reducer in there. That said, the rebound has never been too fast for me, so it feels properly engineered.
Cool to hear your impressions. I put a cascade link on and it was a huge game changer for me. I only weigh 130lbs, and square edge hits were so harsh with the amount of pressure I had to run to avoid bottoming on the stock link. Put the cascade link on, and all of a sudden I have plenty of support and the start of the stroke isn’t so harsh.
Glad that worked for you Keegan!
I didn’t even know about Cascade links before watching this video. Just read a little bit about them, but haven’t done full due diligence yet… Keegan, Jeff - what do you like about the cascade, and when would you opt into that link over stock?
@@nicolehoschuetzky9124 If you notice that square edge hits are particularly harsh, I would go for the cascade link. I would go so far as to say the suspension felt bad for me running the stock link. I had 150psi in the stock DPX2.
If you like the suspension action, then I don’t see too much of a need. Kinda hard to tell what you’re missing if you never try, and it’s not exactly cheap. Jeff obviously felt less of a difference, and I think that comes down to rider weight and riding style. I ride mine as if it were an enduro bike, and race enduro and DH on it, which makes me want a particularly downhill oriented progressive tune. I also don’t have the same flowier and more trail bike terrain that jeff shows in the video.
@@futsalkeegan thanks much for the color! I like to ride aggressively, doing drops and jumps. I value the gravity more than the uphill (I’m still debating whether a SB150 would have been the better choice…). Love going to the parks, but that’s not my every-weekend destination. My local trails are less on the enduro side, which is also one reason the 130 makes more sense than the 150…
I went with the cascade link on my Ripmo for the totally opposite reason, I wanted a more progressive back end because as a 200+lb rider I was blowing through the rear travel, it dramatically improved the progression on the back end, while also making it just a hair softer off the top so less hang ups too (DW link, SI, VPP and Maestro all like to hang up on square edged hits).
How do you like it compared to the Norco optic?
Optic compares to the Ripley AF, where as the SB130 compares more to the Sight. I'd rather ride the longer travel bikes, TBH.
How much does this model weigh?