Without opening the hive it would impossible to know. I would wait 6 month before opening and make sure you close the old entrance around the pipe very well. If you do not use concrete they will just eat through whatever you may use and not go into the pipe.
Unfortunately you will need to open the hive to inspect. But usually waiting 6 month is more than enough time for a queen to go in. Monsoon time may not count. This will most likely be a new queen. I would also check around the old entrance where the tube was placed. If you used a soft material to close the hole, the bees will bite through it after a short wile. The only thing that works is a little bit of concrete. Most of the time.
Work With Nature so, they will not move in Wet/rainy season? I use plastic straw well-fitted to both holes (the mother box and bamboo add-on) and cello tapped the straw. I do have worries because the number of bees going out is around 1 or 2 per ten minutes, while they have around 80 inside the mother hive. Is it indicates something?
Mr. Binu is actually a really intelligent person and if u guys had a translator to translate his hind to English would be good for both of you I can understand how much he was stressed while communicating with you. As I am a Maharashtrian I can understand his hindi. But think about who don't understand hind. This would be hard for them to understand... But you did a great job I am going to get a stinglessbee hive in Jan.... thanks for sharing this information with the world....
Nice Video and very informative.I am thinking of doing stingless bees project here Botswana. But i fear winter tempratures may affect the nest in the hive. The stingless bees in our area nest underground which i suspect helps them to keep the nest warm during winter. Any idea how i can keep them in this conditions. I was thinking the log hive will work but have not yet tried. Your comment will be highly appreciated. Thanks
I have no idea how it would affect the stingless bees. In Ireland bees cluster to prevent freezing. But that is a different bee. Could you insulate the hive, with thick clay walls? You will have to experiment.
a box like PVC that is shown in this video and in the following ones where the nest is in the bottom and the honey in the superior one would not be able to make the cabinets with the hose linking the wall in the bottom behind the exit hole?
Hello! I have a question ... at 3:20 min of her video she says that the bees have to go through the box bait or trap. then does this transfer have to be just a horizontal box? and only after the queen begins to make posture in the trap transfer the swarm to a vertical box?
You would be charmed by the variety of species and sizes of stingless bees here in Brazil. There are many species of size equal to the apis. Each honey with its characteristic flavor, all much more nutritious and tasty than apis honey. Our rational boxes are also very well crafted and easy to handle with stingless bees.
Wow great, thanks for letting us know. I heard there are over 500 species. Even reported in northern Europe. Once came across a bee that looked like the stingless bee in west cork Ireland. It was just a little bigger. By about half. There is got to be a way to keep them too for pollination and honey production. I think people in some areas don't know about them. I sure didn't. Best wishes David.
Some species are large honey producers. And a very tasty and nutritious honey by the way, here considered medicinal. Search for NOVY, PNN and INPA ration boxes. Surely you will find video of several native species from Brazil and the one with full mils.
What keeps the queen bee in the hive? You said the hole is small so she can't get into the honey chamber, but what keeps her from leaving out the entrance?
Hello, my name os Gilvan, I'm Brazilian. I live in Petrolina-PE, I have some bees, but I'd love a especie called mandaçaia da Caatinga (Melipona mandacaia). Please, help me to informatian the gruop Abelhas do Bioma Caatinga.
Thanks for share Sir , due to my english I did not get if you put brood in the box or is empty. Today I put a funnel (is not the same method you are using) in my old wall connected with a pipe (+- 30 cm)and a horizontal box but no positive result. What do you think? I am doing well? Thanks in advance.
In this case ( different bee) you don't need any brood, but for the normal honey bee you want to put the brood as close as possible to the entrance in order to catch the queen. You are collecting the bees only for now and you could give them a queen cell to start a new colony too.
how can this many bees live in a box? there are boxes next to boxes and they are all so little they must be always stealing your jam they are so small i could see thd fighting now. Siri why is all the jam gone!
There are two ways of doing it - one is with the cone and you get just the worker force + all that hatch overtime but you do not connect the hive with the cone. The other is very similar to this method using a tube.
(added a link below) Personally I have only done it once and it worked for me. Most of the time I could take of a panel or just placed a bait hive near them if the people could be talked out of the danger aspect. Two beekeepers I talked to back in Ireland have done it, but can't remember how it panned out for them. It's ten years ago. This is before I started making videos so I have no footage of it. You just set up a hive as you normally would and connect it with the entrance in the wall using a short big pipe similar in the way, as seen in this video. If you add open brood then the queen should go and check it out. It is hit and miss as with all things beekeeping. Make sure you see the queen not just eggs or larvae as she might go back into the wall. This time I would have the pipe going in the bottom of the back of the hive with the entrance at the top front. Place the brood as close to the pipe as you can get it. It is important to mention that this does not get rid of the bees in the wall, as they will just make emergency queen cells and then you will have a new queen heading that colony eventually. But you may get the queen and all the new comb they will make + honey and maybe then brood. I would let them build for some time before I would add the open brood. Check a few hours later and if I spot her then take the hive. I was thinking just now, I would love to try out, to add a frame of brood to get them to make queen cells in the box. For this the pipe would need to be a lot longer. Often if the brood frame is far enough away from the nest and has a sort of barrier between the two nests then bees can make queen cells even though the colony in the nest is not planing to make any just yet. Then you got a nice easy place to get queen cells + this could be your new queen too. Here is a link I just found that explains it a bit more and you can buy the trap - Swarm Harvester www.kelleybees.com/Shop/20/Queens-Bees/Traps/4014/Swarm-Harvester Plus some questions answered. www.kelleybees.com/Blog/8/FAQs/80/I-m-using-the-Swarm-Harvester-on-an-out-building-and-I-want-to-get-the-queen-out-how-long-will-the-brood-last-without-bees-attending-to-them
Work With Nature thanks for you valuable time sharing thus information with me. I have tried something similar to what you described but the queen never came out...so the few trapout I do every year is just with wire cone. I only use trapout if property owners won't allow for a full structural removal.
Know how it is. Best would be to take the hole colony or just leave them, but then there is varroa and foulbrood + people are scared of bees sometimes. Nice chatting with you. Take care.
Is it possible to trap the bees without propolis? I am trying since last few days but they are going inside the wooden box but not coming out instead they are returning back to the hive
Thanks for the reply. I will wait few more days. As you have suggested I have fully sealed the old entrance. I am trying with one hive and will do the same with other hives I have found. So it may take a week or more at least for them to get used to the box as I haven't used any propolis at the new entrance?
Now the bees have started moving through the box but I observed that they are trying to build like a bridge inside the box to bypass the box. So will they eventually move inside the box or will they bypass it?
It has been about 10 months now and still the queen hasn't moved to the box. Does it take much longer as you had said by 6 months she will move into the box?
How do you know that the queen has moved to the front hive?
Any sign or something?
It is really easy to know as you will see eggs and larvae the brood in the new hive!
Work With Nature I am using bamboo as the trap hive.
Therefore, It's hard for me to see what they do inside.
Any other kind of sign?
Without opening the hive it would impossible to know. I would wait 6 month before opening and make sure you close the old entrance around the pipe very well. If you do not use concrete they will just eat through whatever you may use and not go into the pipe.
Unfortunately you will need to open the hive to inspect. But usually waiting 6 month is more than enough time for a queen to go in. Monsoon time may not count. This will most likely be a new queen. I would also check around the old entrance where the tube was placed. If you used a soft material to close the hole, the bees will bite through it after a short wile. The only thing that works is a little bit of concrete. Most of the time.
Work With Nature so, they will not move in Wet/rainy season?
I use plastic straw well-fitted to both holes (the mother box and bamboo add-on) and cello tapped the straw.
I do have worries because the number of bees going out is around 1 or 2 per ten minutes, while they have around 80 inside the mother hive.
Is it indicates something?
Is it possible that you will sell hives to others??
Hi you are doing wonderful job in stingless bees there, I really like it and love your work done. How can I get one box you have designed?
Thank you, Binu! That was very interesting.
Thanks dear
They are so tiny and so cute! :) - Heidi
Super interesting!!
Great job
thanks for sharing
Which bees polinate vanila?
thank you so much sir for teaching us the best ideas :) i love it
Mr. Binu is actually a really intelligent person and if u guys had a translator to translate his hind to English would be good for both of you I can understand how much he was stressed while communicating with you. As I am a Maharashtrian I can understand his hindi. But think about who don't understand hind. This would be hard for them to understand... But you did a great job I am going to get a stinglessbee hive in Jan.... thanks for sharing this information with the world....
Agree and a very kind and good person too.
Measurement of wooden hive pls
Nice Video and very informative.I am thinking of doing stingless bees project here Botswana. But i fear winter tempratures may affect the nest in the hive. The stingless bees in our area nest underground which i suspect helps them to keep the nest warm during winter. Any idea how i can keep them in this conditions. I was thinking the log hive will work but have not yet tried. Your comment will be highly appreciated. Thanks
I have no idea how it would affect the stingless bees. In Ireland bees cluster to prevent freezing. But that is a different bee. Could you insulate the hive, with thick clay walls? You will have to experiment.
Thank you for the quick response. I appreciate that very much! I will try it that way!
Thank You..
a box like PVC that is shown in this video and in the following ones where the nest is in the bottom and the honey in the superior one would not be able to make the cabinets with the hose linking the wall in the bottom behind the exit hole?
Hello! I have a question ... at 3:20 min of her video she says that the bees have to go through the box bait or trap. then does this transfer have to be just a horizontal box? and only after the queen begins to make posture in the trap transfer the swarm to a vertical box?
What is cost for per KG of tragona honey
Any suggestions for a lure on stingless beehive trap?
You would be charmed by the variety of species and sizes of stingless bees here in Brazil. There are many species of size equal to the apis. Each honey with its characteristic flavor, all much more nutritious and tasty than apis honey. Our rational boxes are also very well crafted and easy to handle with stingless bees.
Wow great, thanks for letting us know. I heard there are over 500 species. Even reported in northern Europe. Once came across a bee that looked like the stingless bee in west cork Ireland. It was just a little bigger. By about half. There is got to be a way to keep them too for pollination and honey production. I think people in some areas don't know about them. I sure didn't.
Best wishes David.
Some species are large honey producers. And a very tasty and nutritious honey by the way, here considered medicinal. Search for NOVY, PNN and INPA ration boxes. Surely you will find video of several native species from Brazil and the one with full mils.
@@acfmoc100 I searched sir... I didn't find any such thing
What keeps the queen bee in the hive? You said the hole is small so she can't get into the honey chamber, but what keeps her from leaving out the entrance?
No wings.
Veery interesting but a lot of work.
is their any name of this honey I mean any special ayurvedic name and name of these bees too
Salam satu hobi 🐝 semoga sukses selalu
How do I get one colony from you???
Hello, my name os Gilvan, I'm Brazilian. I live in Petrolina-PE, I have some bees, but I'd love a especie called mandaçaia da Caatinga (Melipona mandacaia). Please, help me to informatian the gruop Abelhas do Bioma Caatinga.
If We transfer the bees after 6 months
Thanks for share Sir , due to my english I did not get if you put brood in the box or is empty.
Today I put a funnel (is not the same method you are using) in my old wall connected with a pipe (+- 30 cm)and a horizontal box but no positive result. What do you think? I am doing well? Thanks in advance.
In this case ( different bee) you don't need any brood, but for the normal honey bee you want to put the brood as close as possible to the entrance in order to catch the queen. You are collecting the bees only for now and you could give them a queen cell to start a new colony too.
hello Madhu tried calling u many times no reply Your videos are excellent and inspiring. I am interested in the honey bee box Please give me details
how can this many bees live in a box? there are boxes next to boxes and they are all so little they must be always stealing your jam they are so small i could see thd fighting now. Siri why is all the jam gone!
Kenikoodu Matti stapikkan ulla condition ayi enn engane ariyam
tubeiludae theneechakal angotum ingotum povilla. tube koodilot cherunna bhaagam avar seal cheyum. anganae aavumpol namuk avar poornamaum kenikootilek maari enn manasilaakam.
Trap out for European bees is much different using a wire cone and the original queen is lost...
There are two ways of doing it - one is with the cone and you get just the worker force + all that hatch overtime but you do not connect the hive with the cone. The other is very similar to this method using a tube.
Do you have a link for that kind of trap?
(added a link below)
Personally I have only done it once and it worked for me. Most of the time I could take of a panel or just placed a bait hive near them if the people could be talked out of the danger aspect. Two beekeepers I talked to back in Ireland have done it, but can't remember how it panned out for them. It's ten years ago. This is before I started making videos so I have no footage of it.
You just set up a hive as you normally would and connect it with the entrance in the wall using a short big pipe similar in the way, as seen in this video. If you add open brood then the queen should go and check it out. It is hit and miss as with all things beekeeping. Make sure you see the queen not just eggs or larvae as she might go back into the wall. This time I would have the pipe going in the bottom of the back of the hive with the entrance at the top front. Place the brood as close to the pipe as you can get it. It is important to mention that this does not get rid of the bees in the wall, as they will just make emergency queen cells and then you will have a new queen heading that colony eventually. But you may get the queen and all the new comb they will make + honey and maybe then brood. I would let them build for some time before I would add the open brood. Check a few hours later and if I spot her then take the hive.
I was thinking just now, I would love to try out, to add a frame of brood to get them to make queen cells in the box. For this the pipe would need to be a lot longer. Often if the brood frame is far enough away from the nest and has a sort of barrier between the two nests then bees can make queen cells even though the colony in the nest is not planing to make any just yet. Then you got a nice easy place to get queen cells + this could be your new queen too. Here is a link I just found that explains it a bit more and you can buy the trap - Swarm Harvester www.kelleybees.com/Shop/20/Queens-Bees/Traps/4014/Swarm-Harvester
Plus some questions answered.
www.kelleybees.com/Blog/8/FAQs/80/I-m-using-the-Swarm-Harvester-on-an-out-building-and-I-want-to-get-the-queen-out-how-long-will-the-brood-last-without-bees-attending-to-them
Work With Nature thanks for you valuable time sharing thus information with me. I have tried something similar to what you described but the queen never came out...so the few trapout I do every year is just with wire cone. I only use trapout if property owners won't allow for a full structural removal.
Know how it is. Best would be to take the hole colony or just leave them, but then there is varroa and foulbrood + people are scared of bees sometimes. Nice chatting with you. Take care.
Is it possible to trap the bees without propolis? I am trying since last few days but they are going inside the wooden box but not coming out instead they are returning back to the hive
they will eventually go in. Bit make sure they can not get out at their old entrance.
Thanks for the reply. I will wait few more days. As you have suggested I have fully sealed the old entrance. I am trying with one hive and will do the same with other hives I have found.
So it may take a week or more at least for them to get used to the box as I haven't used any propolis at the new entrance?
No prob just remember it can take up to 6 month for them to establish fully in a hive.
Now the bees have started moving through the box but I observed that they are trying to build like a bridge inside the box to bypass the box. So will they eventually move inside the box or will they bypass it?
It has been about 10 months now and still the queen hasn't moved to the box. Does it take much longer as you had said by 6 months she will move into the box?