How to Slope Soar
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- Narrated slope soaring session, talking about how to start, which planes will work, slope selection and how to keep the glider up.
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Awesome video. You've helped me a lot on slope soar on a paraglider. Thank you so much.
Very welcome!
Hi Andrew, it’s very hard to let it go over the slope, and I have been flying rc aircrafts for a few years. I built yourself and speedster Dens Lidl glider conversion and have been waiting for the right wind direction for 3 weeks now.Very frustrating here in Blackpool uk as I have to wait for a Westerly. Thanks for everything you do, it’s a real help.
My pleasure Terry. Good luck with the westerlies, I feel your frustration
Nice vid mate just got me sail plane out of the attic after years , love ya saying just throw it of a cliff safe flights
Wow. I was waiting for this for a long time. Thanks a lot Andrew for sharing...))
Points noted - Keep the plane moving.
Down elevator to pick up speed.
Always turn facing away from the slope & facing the sea.
Use Rudder for directional control.
For loop, fly towards the sea, then its easy to loop because of the uplift.
For landing come in from just behind the slope and slow down. Better if you have flaps.
Happy Slope Soaring..)
Well summarised. Give it a try
Yes..Definitely.But need to find the wonderful place like yours...)
Good tips for flying in a steady wind. Keep it flying into, or along the wind and it should stay up there. But ya, landing can be tricky with no real landing strip or landing gear.
I think, could you bring it around towards you , then turn into the wind almost right in front of you and have it sort of float back to you where you could grab it somehow with one hand? Or find a spot where some tall grass is and plop it down there? As long as you dont bring it down suddenly and lawn-dart it it would be ok i suppose.
It depends a lot on the slope, landing space and wind strength. There is a road just behind this slope and that is where you crash land if you drop out of the lift. Sometimes you can reverse it in but very rarely
The lift band extends past the ridge because of a phenomenon called "compression"
I have slope soared for years but as soon as I started paragliding and actually getting into the lift myself, it changed things a lot for me.
Have you considered trying paragliding? You're never too old, in fact the older you are the better pilot you'll be.
Dabbled with Hang-gliding about 45 years ago.
Yes very relaxing. Thank you
HI ANDREW ! VERY GOOD VIDEO THANKS ANDREW , AT THE END IT WAS A CLOSE CALL ,,,WOW !
Very close!
@@AndrewNewton Made me laugh. I actually replayed 11.39 onwards several times. 🤣🤣🤣
Great video Andrew.
I started flying RC (an admittedly on and off hobby for me over the past 16 or so years) with a GP Spirit 2m which I flew off of a similarly gentle slope no more than 50m from my house.
I've recently (ish) returned to the hobby but have been struggling to find the time to fly as my location in the NE of England rarely has the calm weather that suits many of the aircraft I like (mostly vintage FF designs) which has lead to an attic stuffed with airframes that I'll likely never fly but did enjoy building. I do though have an HK Walrus that I've flown on and off that would do fine off of a slope and have converted a KK Soarer Baby (36" span FF TL glider) to a very light wind sloper though I fear that using it as such will be a very quick way to re-kit it. :/
Ha yes sloping is tough on models. Good to hear your story Monty
I started slope soaring in '79 and had many wonderful hours up there. I've had numerous planes from the soar birdie to paragon that I got my LSF level 4 flight which was a 4 hour slope flight.
the paragon was a great plane.your video is spot on.
I can't do it anymore, too dam old for chasing planes
I noticed the dark clouds in your video and that reminds me of the time I was flying with a buddy and there thunder clouds near us and I kept hearing a tick tick sound and I touched the antenna it stopped we landed and got off that hill quick! have fun flying I subscribed
That was a calming and peaceful video! What a great place for soaring. I have one spot, but it's always lots of hang- and paragliders there. They say it's OK for me to fly to, but I really don't dear :-) Keep it up, Andrew! You are the one having spring/summer now :-)
Yes good weather coming.
Excellent! Now I know just to do a figure 8, turning into the wind all the time. Thank you for uploading this.
Start that way, then you can turn in towards the slope if you have enough space and control
Thank you! Very good advice for a beginner. Slope soaring is excellent here in the Netherlands, we have a lot of wind everyday and long stretched dunes :D
Good to hear Max, so many people want to try sloping but have no sites
The best slope Soarer is the one you have built yourself.. any chriss foss model.
Thanks! Searching for rc slope on youtube brings this video up. Reminds me how long since I have visited your channel... Anyway, you'll have summer for som months and I'll visit for a bit of warm feeling. Have a great summer, Andrew!
That's the plan, might be a hot dry one
Most useful - thanks for that Andrew
So nice so relaxing so informative
I fly in similar slopes to this one, and I prefer to land on the beach in front of the slope. The modell is spared a lot of stress -as is the pilot. To have a better perpective, walk down the slope and onto the beach; you can land at your feet very gently.
I do fly from the sand occasionally, more like surfing
Is there some good slope soaring places on the Mornington Peninsula because it is mostly cliffs with lots of trees.
Great location. Longer vid would be better. It's so peaceful to watch you work the breeze and the lift. Thanks, Thailand Paul ASW-28 (China)
Better audio would help to. I will redo this one day
Hi Andrew, very pleasant to watch and thanks for the tips.
I’m in Torquay Victoria keen to find a flying spot.
Thanks.
Lots of slopes down your way. Finding somewhere with access and a landing area is the key
Hi Andrew been flying for 38 years slope and Bungee, hobby king phoenix 1600mm or the 2000 gliders A.r.f= (all most ready to fly) (straight wings )fly better, cheap gliders to learn slope gliding, have Built a glider for slope gliding 1200mm wing pan zip section rips works very good with the moment arm (tail) three times the width of the wing cord, put weight on the C.O.G flies better in the air ,helped club members build there glider. ?
Love your vids, Thank You!
Thanks for watching!
bird at 1:54 says, "see? like this!" 😂
They know how
Hi every one with slope soaring always remember to always turn away from the slope if you turn into the slope it will suck you into it and crash.?
Good old Anabatic Winds.
What about fpv slope soaring?
www.youtube.com/@AndrewNewton/search?query=fpv%20slope
What type of gyro that u use for this plane?
Thumbs only
Can you recommend any gliders or transmitters for me to buy? I’m looking at getting into the hobby
Bixler 2, Taranis Q X7
Sea& glider
Heaven
Try coming in hot, way behind the lift band, punch through the rotor and point it right at you, then nose up to stall. On the reset it will drop straight into your hands gently before gaining to much speed. Catch it like a frisbee too or a football
Andrew:
Close call at the end added some excitement. Your videos are always informative, clear, beautifully photographed, and a joy to watch. Wish I lived in Australia too.
Jim
Thanks Jim, you would be welcome
Best primer on slope soaring I've watched; your 'no nonsense/'Fat-FREE!'-commentary approach is the best, Andy. Plus you hit all the essentials...I'm about to plunge into slope soaring with confidence. Again, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it Anton. Go throw something off a cliff!
Brilliant, enjoyable Vid, Mate !
Location Location Location - go there, see what others are flying. the the durable 'combat' type wings just bounce when crashed
add;
on Take Off, down elevator and launch down in light wind. your first goal is Air Speed. Fear of crashing may lead to up-elevator, a stall, and a crash.
Next job, trim to fly straight and smooth. Don't fight the plane, lead it
Then search out a good Lift Zone along the slope and measure it by finding its limits in X-Y-Z (plane stops going up). This will become The Place to go when you need more altitude
Landing, pick the 'slow' direction of the slope (more head-to-wind) to maintain air speed and reduce ground speed
You may have to start below the cliff and "climb up" to keep the ground speed low, when lift is high
Don't go too far back from the slope, a Down Rotor and turbulence is to be expected.
Higher winds require higher skills and usually more CG ballast
A slope plane looks simple, but without a motor it requires meticulous KIT design and a straight build to perform well in light winds.
Design your own.... that's a really challenging and rewarding Art of Science. Good luck, Mate !
Great tips thanks
Beautifull flight and excellent explanation. Tks Andrew
At 9:40: "With the right plane and right slope...." makes me think if I could order the 'right slope' from Amazon.com? :D
Good tutorial. I used to fly at the world famous Torry Pines. In LA Jolla. California... This video makes me miss is....
i learned to fly with slope soaring my spirit 2m. me and my bro would stay up on the hill and fly all day. good times, great video.
Long time since you posted this Andrew but I've just moved to Brisbane and have wanted to try slopesoaring for a long time. Never been in a place with a slope before and love watching your videos. I've come from the UK where the rules are plentiful and the locations are limited - can you just find a quiet section of coast and go for it?
Have to check with the local fliers. I'm sure there will be lots of suitable hills and coastal sites.
Great Tutorial. Thanks 👍🏻
This plane is the Volantex Phoenix evolution 2000? What is the wingspan?
The Evolution can be 1.6m or 2.6m. This is 2.6 in the video.
"SLOPE"
Smashed. Lost. Or Pulverised Eventually.
But so much fun getting to any of those options.
:-D
Thanks I was trying to remember that acronym, so appropriate
Great video! Very relaxing to watch and covers the fundamentals well!
Thanks, glad you approve
didn't expect you here 🙂
@@marc_frank I'm everywhere! 😉 Unfortunately the winds at my local hill didn't turn out to be quite as good as I had hoped... I'm probably going to buy another small 3ch trainer and just fly that instead lol
@@GoughCustom i had found one 10min away from me, too, but it's turbulent there, no flat field out front
slople.com helps finding spots in combination with google earth, but if you get results depends on where you live
scratchbuilding is cool, too ;)
@@marc_frank I used to scratch-build a lot as a kid, but then I never got to do much flying because I would crash them and then they'd be destroyed lol... I tend toward foamies now as that way I get to fly them a bunch even with some hard landings thrown in :)
Thanks Andrew, very good explanation. Well done
Tip shelf video Andrew!! 👍 bought me a Ranger 2000 on inav. Been doing a decent amount of gliding up high, but I would like to try my hand at soaring, this video helped me gain confidence to try, although haven't had the chance yet, it's too 🥶
Excellent, the Ranger 2000 will love slope soaring. I find it easier than powered flying, as long as you keep it out front.
I have been sloping on the Oregon coast for 30 plus years...spot on instruction. Excellent!
Oh thanks Greg. I could learn from you!
Thanks, I'll try it.
Great video, I learned rc flying on the slopes and it's still my favorite way to rc
Same here. Free energy
Thank you, Andrew, for excellent video and explanation. Keep flying!
i think im there myself
Super nice! Thanks for the video and the explanations!
I tried this week on a quite flat slope but good wind in near where I live in southern east Bavaria. I tried my second glider, a gifted older ASW17 from Kyosho with 2,1m wingspan w/o flaps. I was amazed how good it went, although I needed to put the motor in a couple of times probably no knowing in what direction to turn and how to gain altitude. Did some bad turns and broke the fuselage after losing lift/stall near the ground. But everything is repaired and I hope to get flying again. What you mentioned: "it's a good alternative for motor-flying" is cool! Now I have something I can try in those windy days :D
Yes I started sloping due to the amount of wind here.
@@AndrewNewton thats awesome!
Great stuff Andrew. I don't know if it could be called slope soaring, but above my property at the turn in a long valley there is a pronounced rise in the land with a long ridge running about 1km at right angles to the prevailing westerly wind. at between 400-600m above that ridge I can soar/slope all day, actually it is hard getting down, I have to overspeed severely to break through it. Too high for visual, so fpv only, but it's good having it on windy days with no thermal activity, and on still days I use regular soaring technique. I guess it's 'high altitude slope soaring'
Wow, that would be a buzz
Nice thanks!
That was an informative and somewhat relaxing, instructional video... when I find a slope(step 1) I will be sloping cheers Andrew, cool video👍
Don't skip step 1. Go seek your slope Simon
OMG what an inspiring video. Thanks Andrew
Thanks Mike
Absolutely brilliant video, thankyou so much! Keen to try it out but had no idea of the principles underpinning it!
GLAD I WATCHED TO THE END..!! SO CLOSE..! LOL Andrew that was a Brilliant flight,and took me back to when i first learnt to slope sore..!! Its very calming...;-)
Thanks Andrew for yet another very informative and as usual for you, intelligent video. I am a retired Hang glider pilot who suffered a life changing accident. Recently I bought a very nice 2.5m RC glider. I have been reluctant to fly it as I have some what lost my confidence. However your tuition means I will be flying again very soon
Well done mate, you are awesome!;
Cheers Rob
Rob thanks so much for your comment. I dabbled in hang gliding back in the early 80s and it was a big thrill, but too dangerous back then. I'm so happy you're getting back into flying. Best of luck mate
Andrew Newton , I believe Hang gliders have changed incredibly since the 80's Andrew, setup correctly and with a bit of altitude, relax or take your hands off and they will literally fly themselves! My accident was due to a poorly setup new glider and I made the wrong choice to fly on the day.
The sport would still be safer than crossing the road and a heck of a lot more fun!!!;
Cheers Rob
Just extremely crvrt type type request
Nice. I've just purchased a Phoenix 1600. Still assembling. Looking forward to gliding it
Good one for the slope.
OK, I have to make a confession, I'm ashamed for what I did, but it was many, many years ago when I was younger, I hope my victim survived....
I used to fly gliders in Palos Verdes off the cliffs there, and one day someone, who wasn't an R/C pilot, asked me what was keeping my plane in the air.
And this was my sin....
Back then there were these little Chinese made styrofoam toy gliders that cost like $1, just flat formed punched out sheets for the body and rudder, wings, and elevators, you slid the wing through a slit, same for the elevator, and they were made and printed up as a P-51, a ME-109, and a Zero, they had about an 8" wingspan, and there was a plastic clip weight for the nose, that had a free wheeling 1" 3 bladed propeller on the front to look like a motor.
That was the instrument of my shame....
I had cut off one of those propellers, run a pin through the hub, and pinned it on the nose of my 6' wingspanned glider I was flying at the time..... do ya see where this is going?
When the guy asked me "What's keeping it up in the air?", I said - "I'll bring it past us close and slow so you can see....", and that little propeller was just spinning away....
Let's say I didn't correct him when he thought that was what was keeping it in the air.
I hope he didn't try to tell too many people about the tiny motor.....
Haha, you are a bad but funny man
Thanks Andrew, appreciate this tutorial, learned a lot.
That was really relaxing Andrew. A beautiful experience even though I wasn't actually there. To help get the plane down when it's time to land, is it worth walking a little way over to where you had the car parked well past the flat of the slope and then bringing her down there perhaps without worrying about the crash land, so to speak. Haven't sloped soared before, but definitely wouldn't mind trying it.
Thanks Richard. At a different site that would be OK. But at this spot I would have to cross a road, sometimes dodge race horses and horse trailers and there is no open landing area, and most of my slopers don't have a motor. Landing on the beach would be possible but I'm too lazy
there's a couple of things I think should be mentioned is if you turn with the wind what would happen and what would happen if you launched up at 15-20 degrees, instead of level or down 5 degrees. I got a good idea what would happen.
That will go in the advanced tricks video
Interesting. I fancy having a bash at making a glider through the winter. Looks like the bigger wingspan is better than the 36 - 40" models I have been looking at. Great video very helpful.
Excellent. 1.5m is a good wingspan
Hello Andrew, could you also provide some info on the 'where to slope soar'? What are good slopes and what aren't?
I liked this video several years ago but just now watched it again and wanted to say how beautiful this is to watch. I absolutely have to try this.
Glad you enjoyed it. In some ways it's the easiest form of RC flying
I threw my drone off a mountain and the damn thing came back..!
Where you at mate ? 🇦🇺 I’m in Brisbane
At least the RTH works. This video was near Barwon Heads VIC
Hi Andrew, great video. Would you mind if I link to it from our Aero Modellers site for beginners?
Thanks Shane, no problem. Happy for you to link to the video
What expo are you using on ail and elev?
Same as your P 1600- 60%?
No expo needed on the Evo, it's a big gentle glider. The P1600 is over controlled for aerobatics so it needs expo
thank you for your video. I am starting RC soaring from fixed wing powered models.
Welcome and I hope you love it as much as I do
Looks like am in trouble. No slope. I live in a plains area. Have a few hills about so I thought about it. No ocean as am in-land.
Thermal gliding might be good in your flat lands
Nice video Andrew! Where about are you? It's hard to find good slopes that's not too far away in Adelaide.
Thanks Ron. Geelong
Very nice. I've flown electric sailplanes and always wanted to try slope soaring. Not many slopes in the midwest of the US. Great video. Thank you.
Yes you need to find a slope
I've seen guys slope soaring off a long row of haybales.
Cheers matee,much appreciate you sharing your knowledge n time.Great vid.Fly on Free Bird
Haha ciao Andrew ti è passato molto vicino che ti sei spostato .Bel aereo ciao Andrew
Thank you for a great video! What are the camera, mic, and mount that you are using on your cap? Thank you!
Mobius C with external mic mod, mount is just PVC plastic heat bent into shape th-cam.com/video/IRhOpUNmP_8/w-d-xo.html
At what size/height would bushes/shrubs, etc degrade the wind coming up a slope?
Depends on the size and angle of the slope but anything over 1m would have an effect and anything over 2m would be a danger zone
"If you haven't got a slope, you haven't got a hope" Yur welcome.
Touché
Thx for that Video Andrew, how about the CG? Is there any additional weight in the Front needed to make the plane a little nose heavy, to "fight" better into the Wind? Thx for your Help.
Cheers, Mike
Yes you could do that if the wind is getting too strong
brillant video images, super clear sound, good instructive comments (even for an experienced RCer), well done Andrew!
Thanks, I could have done better with the sound if the mic was under the visor
Great instructive video, and nice aussie accent!
Thank you Andrew!
My pleasure!
I want to try SS, thanks for the very informative video Andrew!
It's addictive and very satisfying Andrew
Hello my dear friend! Is this the Phoenix 2000mm model? I'm looking for a good slope soaring plane...Greatings from Brazil!
Interesting video Mr. Andrew 👌
great tips, been sloping with my sky surfer, but im pretty sure is no where near the experience with the phoenix evolution. I might get one, seem to fly way better than my sky surfer.
It has more lift and penetration than the Skysurfer
Great stuff. Thanks
Thank you for the video. It is very useful.
hey andrew would a phoenix S 1600mm be a good plane to start with at sloping i dont want to use one of my dlg's for this yet ?
i would of corse have to program it with flapperons as it does not have flaps
do you use balast ?
Yes perfect for sloping. Spoilerons are better to get down in a difficult landing area. Yes I ballast up if I want more speed, but not usually necessary
@@AndrewNewton thanks for all the help and advice th-cam.com/video/QC82ZHxPzAw/w-d-xo.html
Andrew, do you have a tutorial that goes into more detail about landing on a slope? e.g. Different landing options, behind the slope, hand catching, on the beach...
No but my mate Allen Moore has some great sloping tutorials
Andrew Newton Thanks Andrew. I’ll look up Allan’s channel, cheers.
that was too close!!! :D
This is how albatross and condor fly!
Smooth and graceful
cheers mate, very imformative
Thanks for sharing!
Great! What size is the plane wingspan? Thanks
Thanks. Phoenix Evolution 2.6m wingspan
Your first landing here is that flaps down and brakes on crow ? What if not is the brakes ailerons up and flaps down? Thanks.
Ok shows at the end. But still my nine cap maybe can’t do that
Yes it's called crow braking. Flaps down and ailerons up
This is great where is this slope? Is it anywhere near Geelong
Yes, 40W beach. maps.app.goo.gl/hqZ5gAzMy1BHBZKX6
@@AndrewNewton that’s great I’m just getting back into rc gliding I’ve also been flying planes and helicopters. The sailplanes I’ve got are a slope 16, multiplex Solius and a CMPRO Ventus. I’ve been trying to find a good slope to try them on.
I would love to learn this sport, living near Vancouver, WA.
Lots of slopes near you I suspect
@@AndrewNewton Hopefully I can find one...I'm gonna be self taught on an RTF sailplane!
Great vid indeed. And I'm endlessly envy about your flying site.
Thanks Tom, our sites are not very high but we have a good variety
Beautiful flight. Thanks for the advise. I have a HKing Fox glider and a Multiplex Cularis.
Nice. Have you tried to slope soar with them?
not yet but I will try it.
You are so lucky to have such a beautiful place for slope soaring. I live in Southern California.
Jay Fpv we have great slope areas here in Carlsbad and Torrey Pines
@@adamf.1298 post some videos and send me the link. I'm in Rancho Cucamonga CA
Jay Fpv Carlsbad Bl & Solamar Dr, Carlsbad, CA 92008 is where I fly and Torrey Pines Gliderport, 2800 Torrey Pines Scenic Dr, La Jolla, CA 92037 is for serious pros
Jay Fpv th-cam.com/video/HNpuDb62RyA/w-d-xo.html
@@jayfpv9376 there is a good place at the other side of the cajon pass from you.
Search "slope soaring sites near cajon pass"