Ironically I remember losing a battle to unown in the battle tower. I had a scizor that had it's accuracy cut a few times by the pokemon prior. My Slash missed, unown used what must have been a fire type Hidden Power because it absolutely destroyed scizor, and I lost the fight. It was... humiliating, yea.
Scizor actually has an amazing movepool for the battletower in crystal, as a support pokemon. It can learn agility double team swords dance all by level up, and can learn baton pass through breeding with ledian. So it can have access to any of its moveset by level 10 through breeding, and it makes an awesome support/setup for your sweeper.
Level 10 Battle Tower is hilarious with Dragon Rage existing. Smeargle is your sleep lead and basically always kills something slower than it even if it's a 2HKO. Aerodactyl (Arcanine for hipster points) is the cleaner, and Blissey is the pivot.
I personally think that a follow-up video discussing the best possible moveset(s) of the eligible pokemon would be a fun video idea, though obviously most of them would suck horribly.
To get a Level 10 Aerodactyl in Gen 2 with Dragon Rage, you need to do transfer shenanigans. First of all the only Aerodactyl you can get in GSC is from an in-game trade for a Chansey, which can only be found in the wild at level 25-28, and when you revive Aerodactyl in RBY, it's level 30. This means you either need to transfer an RBY Aerodactyl to GSC so you can breed a level 5 Aerodactyl, breed the traded Aerodactyl, or breed a level 5 Chansey to trade for a level 5 Aerodactyl. Then, you need to transfer your low level Aerodactyl to RBY, teach it Dragon Rage via TM, then transfer it back to GSC. Dragon Rage is not listed as an Egg Move for Aerodactyl in GSC, so I don't think you could hatch an Aerodactyl that knows Dragon Rage, even if both of its parents are Aerodactyl who know Dragon Rage. However, all that work nets you the fastest legal Dragon Rage in the game, coming off of Aerodactyl's base 130 speed. Smeargle is the third fastest option with 75 base speed, eclipsed by Mew's base 100 (but good luck getting a legal Mew), and beating out Charmander's 65, Growlithe, Lapras, and Horsea's 60, and Dratini's 50.
@@paulnewton2284 On the plus side, it's really, really broken. With a layer of Spikes and Sandstorm up (set by something like Pineco, who can then Explode), there are only four Pokemon who can live a Dragon Rage - Blissey, Snorlax, Aerodactyl, and Wobbuffet - none of whom can do jack diddly shit to a Dragon Rage Aerodactyl. The only threat at that point is Jolteon, who is walled permanently by any Rock/Ground, but also by Steelix... which can also have Dragon Rage. As an alternative however, Lapras is usually about as good as Aerodactyl. Also gets Dragon Rage, has a boatload of HP, basically only loses to the same Jolteon.
mabey a theory for all the low levelled fearows, raticate etc is the team rocket radio frequency somehow getting to them forcing the wild pokémon to evolve.
For evolved low-levelled wild Pokémon, I think it’s possible that how we evolve Pokémon is basically expediting a slower process, since it’s implied some Pokémon will evolve in the wild under other conditions. For example, it states that when it reaches 100 years old, Onix becomes crystallized (turning it into the infamous Crystal Onix) before gaining the metal coat and evolving into Steelix, and these same crystals are seen when it Mega Evolves, somehow protruding from beneath the metal.
There is a way to not evolve trade evolutions. It requires Pokemon Stadium, though, with 2 transfer packs. You can move pokemon around like you would in a PC in Stadiums 1 and 2 and can even be done between the stadium game and the GB games. So you move the machoke you caught in gen 2 into a box in Stadium 2 while not having any gen 2 moves, then move it into a gen 1 game and bam! Viable machoke for the pika cup.
the one thing i always found unfortunate is how gen 2 is the series first battle tower but its obscure since you'd have to explore olivine i recall finding the battle tower in crystal when i was around 6-10 years old(i'm 25 currently) but promptly forgot about it all these years afterwards.. man time flies
Mew was given away at level 5 in official events and Celebi was given away at levels 2 or 5; however, they're banned from the levels 10-60 of the Battle Tower. In the case of Lugia, Ho-Oh and Mewtwo, they're also banned in the levels 10-60.
Skarmory, All Eevee evolutions and Starmie are also viable and relatively strong. Skarmory in particular is a no brainer given the prevalence of EQ and Hyper Beam
i wanted to complete crystal completely, and that involved completing all levels of battle tower. it never happened, but now i am confident enough to go back after watching this.
I just recently beat the little cup round 2, unlocking Dodrio tower round 2 on my copy of Pokémon Stadium 2 and am using it to help train up my all shiny crystal team to level 100 to take on rival round 2.
18:02 Could you elaborate on that part? Or even make a video about it? I can't imagine what it was like without Ditto for the entire year that it took FireRed and LeafGreen to come out. Off the top of my head: your starter would HAVE to be female to get more, which is hard because the 7:1 ratio and Metagross, one the best Pokémon of the entire game was post-game only that was incredibly easy to mess up (i.e. evolve before it gets Meteor Mash on level 50 as Metang), and you had no second chances because of no Ditto, which would have meant to beat the game again.
Here's the story behind it: When I got Pokemon Ruby, my brother got the Sapphire version as well. I chose Torchic (Who just happened to be a female without trying, I have a bizarre luck when it comes to that) but I asked that he chose Treecko (Male) first, send it to my game, then start the game again and he selects Mudkip (Male) so we'll have all of them. I didn't think for one moment that Ditto wouldn't be in the game, so Treecko and Mudkip were evolved before I could get Mudkip and Marshtomp's entries and he could get Treecko and Grovyle's. Eventually, I got to a point when Mudkip and Marshtomp were the only Pokemon I didn't have, which by this point, my brother was bored with the game and let me restart his game to get it. He probably would have sold the game later on anyway and I highly doubt he cares about this at all anymore, but I still feel guilty about it to this day and sometimes wish I just waited until Fire Red/Leaf Green to finish it off.
Yeah, since I wasn't there when Gen 3 cut off from Gen 2, I can only imagine how hard it was to start from scratch with all the stuff they added. And the Ditto absence is an incredible oversight, interesting for the competitive that was limited to those 200, but hell if you wanted to do stuff like Chain or TM breeding, or just not wanting to catch a female Pokémon every time.
@@IgorcastrochucreDitto being absent was fully intended so that you couldn't obtain Pokémon like the Kanto Eeveelutions by breeding the Espeon or Umbreon (which were both locked to male for the same reason) from Colosseum before the release of FireRed and LeafGreen.
Oh hey git, the voice is back. I'm starting to miss your audio commentary format here. Also, i never really invest my time in the battle tower in GSC cuz it's really odd and i never even know about the lvl10 being the lowest floor in the tower, lol. Maybe i should check it out
And the best part? You're the only one with these restrictions. The AI has no such limitations on any of these Pokemon. You can battle any of the 251 Pokemon in the level 10 branch. So if you plan on winning, go all out with the best possible picks you can get. And be prepared for Mewtwo and Celebi.
No, you cannot. The available AI Pokemon at the level 10 Battle Tower are: Exeggutor, Kangaskhan, Mr. Mime, Tauros, Lapras, Jolteon, Aerodactyl, Snorlax, Espeon, Umbreon, Misdreavus, Unown, Wobbuffet, Girafarig, Heracross, Sneasel, Corsola, Houndour, Porygon2, Miltank, and Blissey. All things easily obtainable by the player at level 10 through breeding and either stones or happiness evolutions. They don't even have any Dragon Rage users (though they do at Level 20).
Bop it.
Twist it.
Squeeze it.
Pull it.
*Breed it.*
Vaporeon is trembling and shaking in the corner of the room rn
As a kid, this was the "everything moves first and then kills you" building
this especially true since we had zero knowledge of EV & IV back then
Ironically I remember losing a battle to unown in the battle tower. I had a scizor that had it's accuracy cut a few times by the pokemon prior. My Slash missed, unown used what must have been a fire type Hidden Power because it absolutely destroyed scizor, and I lost the fight.
It was... humiliating, yea.
If the ai sends in an unknown when they have more pokemon left, and your pokemon has a 4x weakness. Best believe that hidden power types coming out 😂
Scizor actually has an amazing movepool for the battletower in crystal, as a support pokemon. It can learn agility double team swords dance all by level up, and can learn baton pass through breeding with ledian. So it can have access to any of its moveset by level 10 through breeding, and it makes an awesome support/setup for your sweeper.
Level 10 Battle Tower is hilarious with Dragon Rage existing. Smeargle is your sleep lead and basically always kills something slower than it even if it's a 2HKO. Aerodactyl (Arcanine for hipster points) is the cleaner, and Blissey is the pivot.
I personally think that a follow-up video discussing the best possible moveset(s) of the eligible pokemon would be a fun video idea, though obviously most of them would suck horribly.
Smeargle is probably the best choice, since it can learn dragon rage
Aerodactyl is way faster and learns Dragon Rage as a TM in Generation 1
To get a Level 10 Aerodactyl in Gen 2 with Dragon Rage, you need to do transfer shenanigans. First of all the only Aerodactyl you can get in GSC is from an in-game trade for a Chansey, which can only be found in the wild at level 25-28, and when you revive Aerodactyl in RBY, it's level 30.
This means you either need to transfer an RBY Aerodactyl to GSC so you can breed a level 5 Aerodactyl, breed the traded Aerodactyl, or breed a level 5 Chansey to trade for a level 5 Aerodactyl.
Then, you need to transfer your low level Aerodactyl to RBY, teach it Dragon Rage via TM, then transfer it back to GSC. Dragon Rage is not listed as an Egg Move for Aerodactyl in GSC, so I don't think you could hatch an Aerodactyl that knows Dragon Rage, even if both of its parents are Aerodactyl who know Dragon Rage.
However, all that work nets you the fastest legal Dragon Rage in the game, coming off of Aerodactyl's base 130 speed.
Smeargle is the third fastest option with 75 base speed, eclipsed by Mew's base 100 (but good luck getting a legal Mew), and beating out Charmander's 65, Growlithe, Lapras, and Horsea's 60, and Dratini's 50.
@@paulnewton2284 On the plus side, it's really, really broken. With a layer of Spikes and Sandstorm up (set by something like Pineco, who can then Explode), there are only four Pokemon who can live a Dragon Rage - Blissey, Snorlax, Aerodactyl, and Wobbuffet - none of whom can do jack diddly shit to a Dragon Rage Aerodactyl. The only threat at that point is Jolteon, who is walled permanently by any Rock/Ground, but also by Steelix... which can also have Dragon Rage.
As an alternative however, Lapras is usually about as good as Aerodactyl. Also gets Dragon Rage, has a boatload of HP, basically only loses to the same Jolteon.
mabey a theory for all the low levelled fearows, raticate etc is the team rocket radio frequency somehow getting to them forcing the wild pokémon to evolve.
For evolved low-levelled wild Pokémon, I think it’s possible that how we evolve Pokémon is basically expediting a slower process, since it’s implied some Pokémon will evolve in the wild under other conditions. For example, it states that when it reaches 100 years old, Onix becomes crystallized (turning it into the infamous Crystal Onix) before gaining the metal coat and evolving into Steelix, and these same crystals are seen when it Mega Evolves, somehow protruding from beneath the metal.
I didn’t even know the Battle Tower was in Gen 2, let alone it’s odd Leveling system.
Well, I liked the Pika Cup video, so I’m cool with this.
It was a Crystal Excluvie. That would explain some of it.
Team rocket used its evolution beam. And messed up all the evolutions and colors
What an info dump. I love it. Hate the Gen 2 battle tower, though.
This Battle Tower is the hardest, unfair challenge in the main Pokemon series
Not to mention the reward is 5 vitamins
@@terrydavis146 yeah
I have played Crystal so many times but never once did I go through the battle tower. I didnt even know that It existed
On the machoke you're missing one important thing. Just don't let it evolve.
Edit: so it turns out you can't cancel trade evolutions in gens 1 and 2
Except you can't stop it.
Wait no you're right. Can't cancel trade evolutions only regular ones
There is a way to not evolve trade evolutions. It requires Pokemon Stadium, though, with 2 transfer packs. You can move pokemon around like you would in a PC in Stadiums 1 and 2 and can even be done between the stadium game and the GB games. So you move the machoke you caught in gen 2 into a box in Stadium 2 while not having any gen 2 moves, then move it into a gen 1 game and bam! Viable machoke for the pika cup.
No. You see, once you get the Machoke it will start evolving, so you cannot get it deposited into your pc to use that stadium trade.
the one thing i always found unfortunate is how gen 2 is the series first battle tower but its obscure since you'd have to explore olivine
i recall finding the battle tower in crystal when i was around 6-10 years old(i'm 25 currently) but promptly forgot about it all these years afterwards.. man time flies
Mew was given away at level 5 in official events and Celebi was given away at levels 2 or 5; however, they're banned from the levels 10-60 of the Battle Tower. In the case of Lugia, Ho-Oh and Mewtwo, they're also banned in the levels 10-60.
I can only think Steelix, Scizor, Kangaskhan and Tauros to be viable options
Snorlax?
Blissey, cant die
Skarmory, All Eevee evolutions and Starmie are also viable and relatively strong. Skarmory in particular is a no brainer given the prevalence of EQ and Hyper Beam
Aerodactyl can learn Dragon Rage in gen 1, which is absolutely devastating at level 10
Jolteon/Vaporeon too
I can imagine pokemon like scizor and steelix completely steamroll the battle tower, blissey too
I wish there was a level 10 battle tower in sun and moon so you could use a salemence
God I remember reaching the battle tower and being utterly MOLESTED by its dificulty
i wanted to complete crystal completely, and that involved completing all levels of battle tower.
it never happened, but now i am confident enough to go back after watching this.
26:14
*Shuckle will remember this.*
I just recently beat the little cup round 2, unlocking Dodrio tower round 2 on my copy of Pokémon Stadium 2 and am using it to help train up my all shiny crystal team to level 100 to take on rival round 2.
Don't think about doing a challenge like the tower at every level
don't think about it
well
I have unfortunately come up with an awful idea.
18:02 Could you elaborate on that part? Or even make a video about it? I can't imagine what it was like without Ditto for the entire year that it took FireRed and LeafGreen to come out.
Off the top of my head: your starter would HAVE to be female to get more, which is hard because the 7:1 ratio and Metagross, one the best Pokémon of the entire game was post-game only that was incredibly easy to mess up (i.e. evolve before it gets Meteor Mash on level 50 as Metang), and you had no second chances because of no Ditto, which would have meant to beat the game again.
Here's the story behind it: When I got Pokemon Ruby, my brother got the Sapphire version as well. I chose Torchic (Who just happened to be a female without trying, I have a bizarre luck when it comes to that) but I asked that he chose Treecko (Male) first, send it to my game, then start the game again and he selects Mudkip (Male) so we'll have all of them.
I didn't think for one moment that Ditto wouldn't be in the game, so Treecko and Mudkip were evolved before I could get Mudkip and Marshtomp's entries and he could get Treecko and Grovyle's. Eventually, I got to a point when Mudkip and Marshtomp were the only Pokemon I didn't have, which by this point, my brother was bored with the game and let me restart his game to get it.
He probably would have sold the game later on anyway and I highly doubt he cares about this at all anymore, but I still feel guilty about it to this day and sometimes wish I just waited until Fire Red/Leaf Green to finish it off.
Yeah, since I wasn't there when Gen 3 cut off from Gen 2, I can only imagine how hard it was to start from scratch with all the stuff they added. And the Ditto absence is an incredible oversight, interesting for the competitive that was limited to those 200, but hell if you wanted to do stuff like Chain or TM breeding, or just not wanting to catch a female Pokémon every time.
It also made it impossible to get Eevee until FRLG since the starter Espeon and Umbreon in Colosseum are always male.
@@IgorcastrochucreDitto being absent was fully intended so that you couldn't obtain Pokémon like the Kanto Eeveelutions by breeding the Espeon or Umbreon (which were both locked to male for the same reason) from Colosseum before the release of FireRed and LeafGreen.
I was wondering when this would be made.
Nice vid Git
Oh hey git, the voice is back. I'm starting to miss your audio commentary format here.
Also, i never really invest my time in the battle tower in GSC cuz it's really odd and i never even know about the lvl10 being the lowest floor in the tower, lol. Maybe i should check it out
if only gen 3+ could allow you to trade backwards
And the best part? You're the only one with these restrictions. The AI has no such limitations on any of these Pokemon. You can battle any of the 251 Pokemon in the level 10 branch. So if you plan on winning, go all out with the best possible picks you can get. And be prepared for Mewtwo and Celebi.
No, you cannot. The available AI Pokemon at the level 10 Battle Tower are: Exeggutor, Kangaskhan, Mr. Mime, Tauros, Lapras, Jolteon, Aerodactyl, Snorlax, Espeon, Umbreon, Misdreavus, Unown, Wobbuffet, Girafarig, Heracross, Sneasel, Corsola, Houndour, Porygon2, Miltank, and Blissey.
All things easily obtainable by the player at level 10 through breeding and either stones or happiness evolutions. They don't even have any Dragon Rage users (though they do at Level 20).
Now you can do the battle tents in emerald where the level limit is 30
19:46 if glitches count then just use the mew glitch but thoses mechines are most likely no more
He says at the start glitches don't count
I love this series
May your bees be my wax