The Brick Piece isn't part of some scrapped side quest. While Hold items were introduced in Gen 2, there's data for then in Gen 1 but this slot goes unsused. When you trade a Machop over to Gen 2, this line of data is read but because the Machop isn't holding anything this would've caused the game to crash and so the Brick Piece was put in that slot to prevent such an occurrence.
@@TheAlienDude The field stores the catch rate and so is only used in Gen I when catching a wild Pokémon or for intentional use by Gen II (e.g. Kadabra in Yellow). Machop just has a unique catch rate. @milessaxton Any Pokémon would break the game if they didn't make sure it's catch rate was mapped to a real item.
I always thought the ragebar made sense in game. Not as a healing item but as story. The guy that's blocking your path is scamming you and the item he sells is over priced for its effect.
Another interesting point about the Berserk Gene in gen 2: wild Mewtwo are programmed to always hold it, but since Mewtwo isn't found in the wild in gen 2, you'll never find it that way.
The Berserk Gene was abandoned in the main series games but it did return in another Pokemon spin-off. Specifically Detective Pikachu, where its the main component of the drug known as R, which make Pokemon that inhale it or ingest it go berserk.
Since no one has mentioned it yet. The gold leaf technically exists in HGSS aswell. However not as items but as things your partner mon can pick up while travelling with you. On what location you get them is nature dependant and I think some natures can't even get all of them. You can view those leaves in the status screen of your mon.
They are the shiny leaves, and your Pokemon will spin in circles after a "!" I found some, but never knew what it does, it's not even mentioned in the walkthrough I read.
can't you make like some type of wreath with them as well? edit: an npc turns 5 leaves into a crown for the pokemon that collected them. My weezing had one
Wow. In all my years of playing Gen 2 I never knew that bargain shop in Goldenrod underground existed. Insane to think I'm still learning new things about Gold and Silver all these years later.
It was my 1st ever pokemon game. I explored it to death!!! But never beat the elite 4’s master. So i acttallu knew a smidge of these like that. XD but kid me didn’t understand the item. So i ignored that guy.
I remember spending all my money buying items from that shop every Monday morning once I discovered it as a kid. I would then sell everything for a profit.
Last week I was taking my character too goldenrod. Outside the casino there was an old man... just casually with the Tm's Flamethrower. Ice beam. And Thunderbolt. Which were removed as TMs. And given as a move tutor.
I am surprised there's no mention of the Scope Lens, only obtained via Mystery Gift. I always thought it was a Gen 3 item, but it first debuted in Gen 2.
Man, it's nice that the localizers gave us the odd egg for free instead of it just being left locked behind a Japan-exclusive event. Oddly considerate for the era.
@@RyanTheLion335 3DS Virtual Console Pokemon Crystal on the other hand, got that GS Ball event patched into the game without the original requirement. You just to beat the Champion to get it if I remember right. Rest in peace 3DS Eshop, you had some great stuff Nintendo refuses to sell on the Switch Eshop
@@RyanTheLion335thats how mythicals always work tho sadly luckily you can do a glitch to get celebi. I did it on my crystal cartridge back in that day. Its actually a really fun glitch.
0:30 you must not have been around for the 90's and 2000's because we time capsule traded ALLLLL the time back then. By the time Gold and Silver came out, we all had maxed out Red and Blue versions, and wanted to see our favorite mons in the new games, and it was very common to trade a G/S pokemon into R/B to level them up via the rare candy glitch, so long as they weren't new and didn't have any new moves. I do remember receiving a brick piece, but having found no use for it, promptly stashed it in the box and never touched it again. Little did I know this useless item would become extremely rare and sought after 20 years later.
Yes and using Missingno to get a Kangaskan with sky attack. And a lot of messing with glitchmon. I even got a pokemon with pokerus from the first gen (when I traded it up it had pokerus). Yeah particularly using missingno glitch to get all the pesky safari zone pokemon without safariballs. My mum even took some lovely photos of me and my two friends with our game boys, cables, pokemon magazines etc all methodically laid out for our next big trading transaction ❤
1:43 fun fact about the Egg Ticket: if you manage to get one (via A.C.E. or cheating) before the Old Man gives you an egg, the game actually checks your bag for the ticket and removes it. So it looks like Game Freak may have been playing around with the code to still make it mandatory in some way before scrapping the idea quite late
I might be wrong, but i remember the sacred ash also restoring PP to moves, making it a portable pokemon center and it was incredibly useful during the Elite 4 or before fighting Red.
The brick pieces being gotten from trade will still be held if you evolve the machop into Machoke/Machamp. The games care about what it was originally caught as, not what it is when it was traded. So it's not as obscure in the sense of only trading Machops.
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For the gen1 trade items, you can just plug you RBY into pokemon stadium 2 and sort your pokemon list by held item, then you can just take all the trade items off of them en masse without ever having to trade. I feel like taking those items into a fresh gen2 file is a little cheating, but I never start a new game without my gold and silver trophies.
That's what I always used to do. My PS2 is stuffed full of berries, balls, potions and hundreds of other things over the decades. Never restarted without first backing everything up there first. ^^
Not sure if it's just me, but I would consider all of these pretty common when you played Gen2 in it's time. The trading between Gen1 &2 was super common and all the items for trades were listed in the pokemaster guidebook that everyone and their mother owned. Also for the Star piece you can also get the phone number from a bird catcher with Farfetch'd that will find items for you. It's always a star piece when he calls you back.
Isn’t it the equivalent of just doing a swords dance? Except there’s a 50 percent chance it doesn’t work because you hit yourself in confusion. And you use up 2 items from your party
@@nicholasdenari2414 - Yes, but far from every Pokémon can learn Swords Dance. Any Pokémon can hold the Berserk Gene. It's proper usage is in the Battle Tower, where consumed items are restored after. Same with gen 3's White Herb etc.
@nicholasdenari2414 it's not a super competitive combo, but it's cool when you pull it off. Especially against someone who might not know about it, or isn't expecting it. So to me it's just one of those flexes like yea I used the berserk gene 😂.
one obscure Item, that you didn't mention is the slowpoke tail. In Gen 2 you can buy them somehow from the sketchy shop clerk in Mahogany Town. Of course only, before you talk to Lance and raid the Team Rocket base.
@@UncalibratedAimbot Because the story tells you, how bad the tails are. How the slowpokes suffer from these treatment. And then, you can buy that thing. Sounds definitely obscure.
@@Borgdrohne13 - That's not what obscure means. You might be looking for the word "unnerving"? The reason that shop sells them is to tip you off that they're bad guys, working with Team Rocket whose Slowpoketail-harvest you stopped earlier.
I just recently found your channel and wow! Your videos are super high quality and your commentary is really upbeat and fun to listen to! Great job! Also-I love how much Yakuza 0 music you use as backing tracks lol, its always a treat to hear.
The Ragecandybar does make sense because it's Team Rocket. They are selling at inflated prices. Remember the Slowpoketail between Violet City and the cave? Team Rocket selling things at high prices is a common theme, it's not meant to be something you buy and use. It's meant to make you "Whaaa?" because you know it's a shitty item at a high price, because it's Team Roocket trying to make a buck.
Berserk Gene I don’t think was removed because it was “broken” It just didn’t see much utility in single player, and was a single use item as is. Plus, there’s other meta staples that are arguably far more busted that aren’t removed from future entries. Tbh Berserk Gene is not very good in a non competitive PVE setting, and in meta, isn’t heavily seen. (Requires the user to sacrifice a held item slot, and a Pokémon to be added to the team that wouldn’t care about having a held item in the first place) Was just a way to have that piece of the map still be useful without Mewtwo. Probably was either overlooked, or just removed for lack of utility in HGSS. Other games didn’t really need the item, as they don’t feature a post Gen 1 Kanto.
I don't think that Berserk Gene was scrapped because it was broken, but because it was stupid. In gen 3 Pokés started having Calm Mind, one move in game that previously was only seen in Gen 1 Amnesia. And in gen 2 we had Curse. Gen 3 not only we have a better Curse in Bulk Up, we got Calm Mind and other good set up moves with good distribution. With Berserk Gene we basically got a self-use Swagger, which with Swords Dance, Howl, Bulk Up and Curse was very stupid. And it even needed a Bitter Berry to be consumed. Of course there's the Own Tempo Pokés that I particularly don't see as broken if Berserk Gene was accessible (Spinda? Slowbro?). I think that it would be broken if it was a +3 or +4 with confusion. Because in this scenario would be cool to invest an item inthe Poké to receive 2 Swords Dance in 1 turn. Otherwise, it was terrible. No one in competitive gen 2 uses this just because of confusion and being +2 in a meta flooded with Curselax and similars.
Time Capsule trading was necessary, means you weren't around back then. This was the way to get shiny Dittos to breed shiny Pokemon at a 1/64 chance. We used to make all these shiny Pokemon and give them away in tournaments we kids would organize or trade for other stuff You trade the red Gyarados to Gen 1, teach it mimic, have wild Ditto transform, you mimic it and transform, then it needs to transform again. Catch it and trade it and usually it was shiny
I feel like the berserk gene would work as a berry in current gens. it would be like the Liechi Berry, but you get confused as a trade off to getting more attack. We have stat boosting items like weakness policy anyway, so it definitely wouldn't be the most broken item.
I mean, it'd probably work similarly given how we have the booster energy in gen9 now. (Though, it'd most likely given normal confusion or just don't activate if the mon can't become confused.)
More than likely the item went away cause abilities came in and yes it would absolutely be broken to have a Pokémon with an ability like own tempo to have it.
I was just thinking of this, and maybe the Gene could provide a percent power boost (no stat ups to be lost/copied), but... inflicts the Pokémon equivalent to Berserk - the holder becomes uncontrollable as a massive trade-off.
I think it's implied that the Bargain Shop guy actually steals his products. That's why he can afford to sell them for lower than the prices the stores will pay for them.
Surprised there's no mention of the Miracle Berry. A Gen II exclusive berry that functions as a predecessor to the Lum berry. Only way to obtain it is either as a 2% chance of being held by the event Celebi, a ~0.5% chance from obtaining it as a random mystery gift, or lastly, using an external accessory called the Pokémon Pikachu 2 (like an earlier version of the Pokewalker) and walking 12,000 steps to save up enough watts to buy it and transfer it over.
Actually you can randomly get Gold Leafs in the HGSS remakes by talking to your following Pokémon in certain locations on the overworld. Get five or six of them and bring them to Lyra/ Ethan (whoever you did not pick), and she will make Gold Leaf Crown or Laurel and give it your Pokémon. Of which it will appear in their summery screen. They also give you a certificate commemorating this moment.
I used the sacred ash in battle but there are lots of well known glitches that do things like allowing the player to use things that they shouldn't. As for the Rage candy bar that had an effect that wasn't present for any use item except for the full restore and that was the ability to remove curse status effects. As a matter of fact the ability to remove curse status effects was so valuable from gen 2 to 4 that you would need to keep them with you at all times. In gens 2 to 4 the curse ability once used on one of your Pokemon would stay until you gave them a rage candy bar or another similar food item depending upon the game or the a full restore or took them to a pokecenter. The curse status was so pervasive that your Pokemon could faint from curse you could use revive and it would start draining HP again. Curse even worked outside battle though it had a much more random effect timing alongside having larger damage range than poison, burn, and other outside battle persistent status ailments. Curse also tanked your accuracy, speed, and other stats while in effect. Curse was so horrible that if you were to be in battle against another person you would likely leave the battle with curse actively harming your team if it had been used during the battle. The next part is that even putting Pokemon into the boxes didn't work to stop it. You only had three options, full restore, rage candy bar or similar item, pokecenter healing nothing else worked and two of those options weren't really options unless you were already dealing with something else. Lastly curse would stack with burn, poison, paralyzed etc to cause a nearly instant death if you were particularly unlucky. Curse also allowed for status ailments that normally wouldn't stack to do so.
i think the problem with utilizing a Pokemon's stored capture value (set in gen 1, and stored. even across evolutions as the Item's ID) is that they had to code items in places where their catch value corresponds to compatible items in generation 2. so the Brick Piece and Gold/Silver Leaves were mostly there as filler. heck, in the Space World beta, the item slots for those items were specifically noted to not be used, at least until proper item information was coded for the final games. Pokemon G/S may have been pushed back due to the Porygon Incident and Nintendo's plans to localize the original Red/Blue to the west as well as possibly the Gameboy Color. and with Yellow possibly being a stopgap. at least by then, they subtly tweaked internal Capture values in those games to act as bonuses when traded to Gold and Silver. (for speciffic pokemon). That, and Lugia's unexpected popularity might have retooled the game's thematics slightly. even if elements such as a Day/Night cycle were already implemented to a degree. the beta version of GS was slightly more overt with their real life/anime tie-ins, like Impostor Professor Oak appearing, and a TV referencing Ash (as in in-universe TV anime). i kind of wonder if Dragonite's capture rate being changed was part of an early Anime tie-in idea but then later dropped. Yellow's anime influence drops off after some point. the Safari Zone has capturable Dratini (referencing the banned episode), yet Pokemon like Lickitung is capturable in the wild in cerulean cave (compared to TR's pokemon) which would imply that Lickitung was a forced addition when episodes were jumbled around after Porygon occured, heck, you see Lickitung's pokeball get swept in the water during the Farfetch'd episode before it was actually caught. That said, it's a little strange that the devs had to account for Pokemon you could technically not capture in the wild. (like Starmie) either because they're not there, or evolves from stones/trades.
If you are talking about Pokémon not being catchable in the wild still having a catch rate assigned: it's just part of the data structure. And the catch rate needs a value, no matter if it's used or not. Second, it can be part of making sure the game behaves as intended even when you hack/glitch that Pokémon in (in order to prevent a game crash).
Never heard the Pokemon Currency referred to as Yen but apparently it is in the Japanese games. In Europe/North America/UK/Australia etc. Its actually called the "Pokemon Dollar"
As a kid when the game came out, I remember the rumors of the xp-boosting Lucky Egg that could be found as a held item from Chansey. I went crazy trading Safari Zone Chansey to Gold with no success. That’s because it’s only held by Wild Chansey in Gen 2 at a 2 percent rate - of a Pokémon that is rare to begin with….yeah. Still wishing I could get those hours of my childhood back.
Okay so most people wouldn't know this unless you play The mystery dungeon series The currency for pokémon is not yen or dollars It's called poké and The value of it is based off of yen.
@@smithplayspokemon Funny enough, you DO get a Light Ball from "Red's Pikachu". More specifically, by trading the starter Pikachu from Pokemon Yellow to Gen 2. And by funny, I mean it's hilarious that the starter Pikachu only gets any special boosted stats AFTER you trade it away to Gen 2. So, the only one who has a special, Light Ball boosted Pikachu is you, and NOT Red.
My favorite Easter Egg is probably the free Tentacool you'll get in HGSS if you deliberately try to softlock yourself in Cianwood City. Even if you release that gift Tentacool, you'll be given another one. I don't know if that also worked in the original games.
I'm surprised Silver Powder wasn't included on this list, as it can only be obtained with a 2% held rate on wild Butterfree. This is especially hard on Silver version since wild Butterfree can only be captured during the bug catching contest 3 days a week.
The BP strategy with Berserk Gene sounds nice but I doubt it is OP. It requires a lot of set-up, two Pokemon, 2 held items, and 2 or more turns. Seems like just Swords Dancing might be a better option in many cases. Gives you 4 attack boosts in only 2 turns or 2 attack boosts in 1 turn depending on what you want, requires only a single Pokemon, does not require a specific item which becomes useless afterward, and does not have a chance to be ruined by your own confusion.
I could be wrong but I think the music in the BG of this video may be from Street Fighter 6. Not sure how the copyright on that works but just a heads up! Hearing it around 6:00
2:33 _🎶I want to be the best there ever was; defeat all the rest, yeah, that’s my cause!_ Tentacruel, Rapidash, Magneton, Kingler, Electrode, Weezing, Seaking, *_Po-kee-mon!_*
2:41 Raichu, Parasect, Venomoth, Golduck, Primeape, Slowbro, Dewgong, Muk! Hypno, Marowak, Rhydon, Seadra, Mew, Jirachi, Zaru-dee and Hoopa! _🎶At least one-thousand-and-fifteen, and more to see; to be a Pok-ee-mon Master is my… _*_destiny!_*
I'd like to see some of these items return someday, especially the Brick Piece. I'm imagining it being able to bypass contacting opponents and giving a small power boost while counting each attack as a move that Bulletproof is immune to. Just imagine: Population Bombs that don't end with your Maushold ded to Ferrothorn Rocky Helmet
So the item that a traded Pokémon is holding is dependent on the catch rate of said Pokémon at the time of capture in gen 1 so that Machop will still have that brick piece when it’s evolved along with any other species with the same catch rate, and b/c machokes catch rate is different than the machoke caught as a machoke will have a different item than the machoke caught as a machop and evolved. The only exceptions where a Pokémon will have a different held item from normal are: pikachu & Kadabra in yellow, where they are programed to have a different held item, dratini and dragonair caught in yellow cause their catch rate changed, and any of the Pokémon stadium prize pokemon which will have a box containing a trophy depending on the the round the were earned in.
Tbh I'd love to see the beserk gene as a reward for those who did challenge runs and the like, like one pokemon one type runs, stuff like that, and to make sure it's broken, do not let it be usable in competitive play _or_ before the third badge
i played the crap out of gen 1 and gen 2 and had a second gameboy so i traded with myself all the time. i found a lot of those really obscure items, like the brick piece and the silver and gold leaf. had so much fun. i just with i had a n64 to do the pokemon stadium stuff :(
@slicerneons3300 bc by then three gens have already passed and the Polka dot bow is already an obscure item to begin w so only a niche number of fans would pick up the reference let alone appreciate it
@@WayToDawn72 That argument is like saying why 8nvent the Fairy type when we've had 5 gens already without them. They could have, and IMHO should have.
Berserk gene is really fun with baton pass, and have the pokemon you're switching to hold a berry to cure the confusion. Not the most competitively viable strategy, but it's fun when you pull it off. It's really easy to clone in gen 2 as well so getting more berserk genes isn't hard. Edit. Didnt watch the full video before I commented 😂. Glad he mentioned the strat though
I think the Berserk Gene should make a return. Yes you think it would be overpowered, but the current games are already full of overpowered BS anyways, I don't think it would even make a dent
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The Brick Piece isn't part of some scrapped side quest. While Hold items were introduced in Gen 2, there's data for then in Gen 1 but this slot goes unsused. When you trade a Machop over to Gen 2, this line of data is read but because the Machop isn't holding anything this would've caused the game to crash and so the Brick Piece was put in that slot to prevent such an occurrence.
So it’s just a coincidence that Machop is the only pokemon that holds the brick piece
Why would machop specifically break the game?
@@TheAlienDude The field stores the catch rate and so is only used in Gen I when catching a wild Pokémon or for intentional use by Gen II (e.g. Kadabra in Yellow). Machop just has a unique catch rate.
@milessaxton Any Pokémon would break the game if they didn't make sure it's catch rate was mapped to a real item.
@@spunit262 I was talking more about how the man uses Machop to help the building process but that was a cool fact.
I feel like part of this video was a sneak peak at some item changes for the rim hack bug I could also just be reaching
I always thought the ragebar made sense in game. Not as a healing item but as story. The guy that's blocking your path is scamming you and the item he sells is over priced for its effect.
Yeah I had the same thought. Same with the $500 magicarp in the beginning of both games. A little plug from the anime that screwed James
I don't get why so many content creators don't notice this
Maybe they are good for making a pokemon hate you and decrease friendship EV.
Exactly! And the fact that as soon as the Red Gyarados is gone, the guy disappears.
You buy the candy bar, see how terrible it is and you rage.
Another interesting point about the Berserk Gene in gen 2: wild Mewtwo are programmed to always hold it, but since Mewtwo isn't found in the wild in gen 2, you'll never find it that way.
Must be why you're able to find the Berserk Gene close to Cerulean Cave
And even if you find it, the Berserk Gene will be used on turn 1 😂
Cheat?
@@enoyna1001 Also true. Forgot about that when I posted, lol.
Also, the only way to get a TwistedSpoon in Gen II is to trade a Kadabra from Yellow.
Yeah, but a Twisted Spoon actually does something.
Is it Alakazam? Kadabra has the only way of getting TM09
@@RainTheWolfie You had to catch a Kadabra in Yellow in the route between Lavender and Saffron.
I got the twisted spoon in fire red?
@@B-Vulponefire red is Gen 3. We're talking about Gen 2 here
The Berserk Gene was abandoned in the main series games but it did return in another Pokemon spin-off. Specifically Detective Pikachu, where its the main component of the drug known as R, which make Pokemon that inhale it or ingest it go berserk.
It’s cocaine
Its an interesting Item in a Spot where mewtwo would be. Nice lore there :D
I hope the man in Vermillion got the brick pieces he needed.
I doubt that a house built from uneven brick pieces would do great from a construction standpoint ;)
@@Arko777777 dry stone wall construction could be alright.
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Since no one has mentioned it yet. The gold leaf technically exists in HGSS aswell. However not as items but as things your partner mon can pick up while travelling with you.
On what location you get them is nature dependant and I think some natures can't even get all of them.
You can view those leaves in the status screen of your mon.
I was thinking that too. They were somewhat obscure in those games too, some people may never find them during their journey.
They are the shiny leaves, and your Pokemon will spin in circles after a "!" I found some, but never knew what it does, it's not even mentioned in the walkthrough I read.
can't you make like some type of wreath with them as well?
edit: an npc turns 5 leaves into a crown for the pokemon that collected them. My weezing had one
@@michaelf5031 I think it's the player character you didn't choose who does it.
I learned about them in my HGSS strategy guide book
Wow. In all my years of playing Gen 2 I never knew that bargain shop in Goldenrod underground existed. Insane to think I'm still learning new things about Gold and Silver all these years later.
It was my 1st ever pokemon game. I explored it to death!!! But never beat the elite 4’s master.
So i acttallu knew a smidge of these like that. XD but kid me didn’t understand the item. So i ignored that guy.
I remember spending all my money buying items from that shop every Monday morning once I discovered it as a kid. I would then sell everything for a profit.
Last week I was taking my character too goldenrod.
Outside the casino there was an old man... just casually with the Tm's Flamethrower. Ice beam. And Thunderbolt.
Which were removed as TMs. And given as a move tutor.
I am surprised there's no mention of the Scope Lens, only obtained via Mystery Gift. I always thought it was a Gen 3 item, but it first debuted in Gen 2.
Same with the Miracleberry, which was later replaced with the Lum Berry, in Gen 3.
Honestly one of the best items, there’s a bunch of weird furniture you can get too from Mystery gift
Fun fact about the Dragon Fang, from what I've heard if you trade a Dragon Fang in gen 2 Clair will call you out for it.
Man, it's nice that the localizers gave us the odd egg for free instead of it just being left locked behind a Japan-exclusive event. Oddly considerate for the era.
Unfortunately, they didn't give access to the GS ball though
@@RyanTheLion335 3DS Virtual Console Pokemon Crystal on the other hand, got that GS Ball event patched into the game without the original requirement. You just to beat the Champion to get it if I remember right. Rest in peace 3DS Eshop, you had some great stuff Nintendo refuses to sell on the Switch Eshop
@@RyanTheLion335thats how mythicals always work tho sadly luckily you can do a glitch to get celebi. I did it on my crystal cartridge back in that day. Its actually a really fun glitch.
@@RyanTheLion335Yeah you gotta rebuy it on 3ds for that... which you can't do anymore.
@@RyanTheLion335eventually they did
My boy has arrived again.
I remember stealing held items from trainers. Blew my mind almost as much as when that first magnetite I caught was found holding a metal coat.
0:30 you must not have been around for the 90's and 2000's because we time capsule traded ALLLLL the time back then. By the time Gold and Silver came out, we all had maxed out Red and Blue versions, and wanted to see our favorite mons in the new games, and it was very common to trade a G/S pokemon into R/B to level them up via the rare candy glitch, so long as they weren't new and didn't have any new moves. I do remember receiving a brick piece, but having found no use for it, promptly stashed it in the box and never touched it again. Little did I know this useless item would become extremely rare and sought after 20 years later.
Yes and using Missingno to get a Kangaskan with sky attack. And a lot of messing with glitchmon. I even got a pokemon with pokerus from the first gen (when I traded it up it had pokerus). Yeah particularly using missingno glitch to get all the pesky safari zone pokemon without safariballs. My mum even took some lovely photos of me and my two friends with our game boys, cables, pokemon magazines etc all methodically laid out for our next big trading transaction ❤
The brick tile isn't extremely rare nor does anyone want or need it. Useless trash
Pokerus existed in Gen 1??? 🤯
This makes me wonder, what would happen if you use the sacred ash with a glitched party? I.e. when you corrupt your party to have more than 6 slots
I guess it would have the same effect as if you would just use the pokemom center
@@noda420 Only in gen 2.
As of gen 3 it doesnt restore PP anymore.
Dragon Fang was coded properly in Pokémon Stadium 2.
I didn’t know that. That’s cool
1:43 fun fact about the Egg Ticket: if you manage to get one (via A.C.E. or cheating) before the Old Man gives you an egg, the game actually checks your bag for the ticket and removes it. So it looks like Game Freak may have been playing around with the code to still make it mandatory in some way before scrapping the idea quite late
I might be wrong, but i remember the sacred ash also restoring PP to moves, making it a portable pokemon center and it was incredibly useful during the Elite 4 or before fighting Red.
The brick pieces being gotten from trade will still be held if you evolve the machop into Machoke/Machamp. The games care about what it was originally caught as, not what it is when it was traded. So it's not as obscure in the sense of only trading Machops.
Thanks for the shout out.
@@Machoke. Man, big fan. Saw you live back in Saffron in '98. I know some of the 151 fell on hard times, but I'm glad to see you're still around.
@mh2120 machoke is happy to see he has fans.
0:28 _That moment when you realise each Pokémon save file is its own self-contained universe, meaning the “Time Capsule” is_ actually _a_ *Multiversal Transport Capsule…*
#BlindMownAF 🤯
For the gen1 trade items, you can just plug you RBY into pokemon stadium 2 and sort your pokemon list by held item, then you can just take all the trade items off of them en masse without ever having to trade. I feel like taking those items into a fresh gen2 file is a little cheating, but I never start a new game without my gold and silver trophies.
That's what I always used to do. My PS2 is stuffed full of berries, balls, potions and hundreds of other things over the decades. Never restarted without first backing everything up there first. ^^
The Bright Powder can only be obtained by transferring in a Gen 1 legendary and the scope lens was only attainable through a mystery event
Wow, I always thought Bright Powder was introduced in Gen 3 😂
I have a lot of these, lol. The process of getting a living Pokédex in stadium 2 has been a treat
Crystal is always a good game, That's always worth a replay.
I've replayed Crystal more than any other version, hands down. It's always so satisfying.
I thought I read somewhere that the berserk gene was suppose to be with some mewtwo event.
I think this rumor got started because the Berserk Gene is found near where Cerulean Cave was in G/S/C, so people associated it with Mewtwo.
Not sure if it's just me, but I would consider all of these pretty common when you played Gen2 in it's time.
The trading between Gen1 &2 was super common and all the items for trades were listed in the pokemaster guidebook that everyone and their mother owned.
Also for the Star piece you can also get the phone number from a bird catcher with Farfetch'd that will find items for you. It's always a star piece when he calls you back.
TM43 is also common in trades from gen 1. You can find them being held by Nidoking and Nidoqueen specifically.
That Baton Pass/Bitter Berry combo is actually genius
Isn’t it the equivalent of just doing a swords dance? Except there’s a 50 percent chance it doesn’t work because you hit yourself in confusion. And you use up 2 items from your party
@@nicholasdenari2414 - Yes, but far from every Pokémon can learn Swords Dance. Any Pokémon can hold the Berserk Gene. It's proper usage is in the Battle Tower, where consumed items are restored after. Same with gen 3's White Herb etc.
@nicholasdenari2414 it's not a super competitive combo, but it's cool when you pull it off. Especially against someone who might not know about it, or isn't expecting it. So to me it's just one of those flexes like yea I used the berserk gene 😂.
one obscure Item, that you didn't mention is the slowpoke tail. In Gen 2 you can buy them somehow from the sketchy shop clerk in Mahogany Town. Of course only, before you talk to Lance and raid the Team Rocket base.
How is this obscure if there is an entire chunk of the story dedicated to it?
@@UncalibratedAimbot in-game chatter is one thing. Knowing it's an actual coded item is another.
@@UncalibratedAimbot Because the story tells you, how bad the tails are. How the slowpokes suffer from these treatment. And then, you can buy that thing. Sounds definitely obscure.
@@Borgdrohne13 - That's not what obscure means. You might be looking for the word "unnerving"?
The reason that shop sells them is to tip you off that they're bad guys, working with Team Rocket whose Slowpoketail-harvest you stopped earlier.
I didn't know you could actually buy it?? Maybe im misremembering but wasn't it more money than you could get in the game?
I just recently found your channel and wow! Your videos are super high quality and your commentary is really upbeat and fun to listen to! Great job! Also-I love how much Yakuza 0 music you use as backing tracks lol, its always a treat to hear.
The Ragecandybar does make sense because it's Team Rocket. They are selling at inflated prices. Remember the Slowpoketail between Violet City and the cave? Team Rocket selling things at high prices is a common theme, it's not meant to be something you buy and use. It's meant to make you "Whaaa?" because you know it's a shitty item at a high price, because it's Team Roocket trying to make a buck.
another excellent and informative video !
Man I could literally watch Generation 2 Pokémon videos all day. Gen 2 just hits the feels so hard.
Are you 34-36?
@@Nathan-oe8ut no
Berserk Gene I don’t think was removed because it was “broken”
It just didn’t see much utility in single player, and was a single use item as is. Plus, there’s other meta staples that are arguably far more busted that aren’t removed from future entries. Tbh Berserk Gene is not very good in a non competitive PVE setting, and in meta, isn’t heavily seen. (Requires the user to sacrifice a held item slot, and a Pokémon to be added to the team that wouldn’t care about having a held item in the first place)
Was just a way to have that piece of the map still be useful without Mewtwo. Probably was either overlooked, or just removed for lack of utility in HGSS. Other games didn’t really need the item, as they don’t feature a post Gen 1 Kanto.
I don't think that Berserk Gene was scrapped because it was broken, but because it was stupid.
In gen 3 Pokés started having Calm Mind, one move in game that previously was only seen in Gen 1 Amnesia. And in gen 2 we had Curse. Gen 3 not only we have a better Curse in Bulk Up, we got Calm Mind and other good set up moves with good distribution.
With Berserk Gene we basically got a self-use Swagger, which with Swords Dance, Howl, Bulk Up and Curse was very stupid. And it even needed a Bitter Berry to be consumed. Of course there's the Own Tempo Pokés that I particularly don't see as broken if Berserk Gene was accessible (Spinda? Slowbro?).
I think that it would be broken if it was a +3 or +4 with confusion. Because in this scenario would be cool to invest an item inthe Poké to receive 2 Swords Dance in 1 turn. Otherwise, it was terrible. No one in competitive gen 2 uses this just because of confusion and being +2 in a meta flooded with Curselax and similars.
Time Capsule trading was necessary, means you weren't around back then. This was the way to get shiny Dittos to breed shiny Pokemon at a 1/64 chance. We used to make all these shiny Pokemon and give them away in tournaments we kids would organize or trade for other stuff
You trade the red Gyarados to Gen 1, teach it mimic, have wild Ditto transform, you mimic it and transform, then it needs to transform again. Catch it and trade it and usually it was shiny
Always a fun day when SmithPlays uploads
I feel like the berserk gene would work as a berry in current gens. it would be like the Liechi Berry, but you get confused as a trade off to getting more attack. We have stat boosting items like weakness policy anyway, so it definitely wouldn't be the most broken item.
I mean, it'd probably work similarly given how we have the booster energy in gen9 now. (Though, it'd most likely given normal confusion or just don't activate if the mon can't become confused.)
More than likely the item went away cause abilities came in and yes it would absolutely be broken to have a Pokémon with an ability like own tempo to have it.
I was just thinking of this, and maybe the Gene could provide a percent power boost (no stat ups to be lost/copied), but... inflicts the Pokémon equivalent to Berserk - the holder becomes uncontrollable as a massive trade-off.
Loving that Shikanoin Heizou theme as the BGM starting at around 1:10 🎵
He uses Genshin character themes A LOT and I always have a double take moment when one of them starts up lol.
This game doesnt use yen. It uses pokedollars. Thank you for not making this mistake in the future.
Bring on the items! Can't fall asleep and now I have to watch a whole smithplays vid 🙃
The berserk gene has to be the most famous obscure item in all of Pokémon
I think it's implied that the Bargain Shop guy actually steals his products. That's why he can afford to sell them for lower than the prices the stores will pay for them.
Surprised there's no mention of the Miracle Berry. A Gen II exclusive berry that functions as a predecessor to the Lum berry. Only way to obtain it is either as a 2% chance of being held by the event Celebi, a ~0.5% chance from obtaining it as a random mystery gift, or lastly, using an external accessory called the Pokémon Pikachu 2 (like an earlier version of the Pokewalker) and walking 12,000 steps to save up enough watts to buy it and transfer it over.
I actually know like 8 of these at least. And when I was younger I might have known more actually. I was very surprised.
Actually you can randomly get Gold Leafs in the HGSS remakes by talking to your following Pokémon in certain locations on the overworld. Get five or six of them and bring them to Lyra/ Ethan (whoever you did not pick), and she will make Gold Leaf Crown or Laurel and give it your Pokémon. Of which it will appear in their summery screen. They also give you a certificate commemorating this moment.
I used the sacred ash in battle but there are lots of well known glitches that do things like allowing the player to use things that they shouldn't. As for the Rage candy bar that had an effect that wasn't present for any use item except for the full restore and that was the ability to remove curse status effects. As a matter of fact the ability to remove curse status effects was so valuable from gen 2 to 4 that you would need to keep them with you at all times. In gens 2 to 4 the curse ability once used on one of your Pokemon would stay until you gave them a rage candy bar or another similar food item depending upon the game or the a full restore or took them to a pokecenter. The curse status was so pervasive that your Pokemon could faint from curse you could use revive and it would start draining HP again. Curse even worked outside battle though it had a much more random effect timing alongside having larger damage range than poison, burn, and other outside battle persistent status ailments. Curse also tanked your accuracy, speed, and other stats while in effect. Curse was so horrible that if you were to be in battle against another person you would likely leave the battle with curse actively harming your team if it had been used during the battle. The next part is that even putting Pokemon into the boxes didn't work to stop it. You only had three options, full restore, rage candy bar or similar item, pokecenter healing nothing else worked and two of those options weren't really options unless you were already dealing with something else. Lastly curse would stack with burn, poison, paralyzed etc to cause a nearly instant death if you were particularly unlucky. Curse also allowed for status ailments that normally wouldn't stack to do so.
6:10 Ethers were actually scarce and in limited amount tho
The king himself is back with another amazing video
i think the problem with utilizing a Pokemon's stored capture value (set in gen 1, and stored. even across evolutions as the Item's ID) is that they had to code items in places where their catch value corresponds to compatible items in generation 2. so the Brick Piece and Gold/Silver Leaves were mostly there as filler. heck, in the Space World beta, the item slots for those items were specifically noted to not be used, at least until proper item information was coded for the final games. Pokemon G/S may have been pushed back due to the Porygon Incident and Nintendo's plans to localize the original Red/Blue to the west as well as possibly the Gameboy Color. and with Yellow possibly being a stopgap. at least by then, they subtly tweaked internal Capture values in those games to act as bonuses when traded to Gold and Silver. (for speciffic pokemon).
That, and Lugia's unexpected popularity might have retooled the game's thematics slightly. even if elements such as a Day/Night cycle were already implemented to a degree. the beta version of GS was slightly more overt with their real life/anime tie-ins, like Impostor Professor Oak appearing, and a TV referencing Ash (as in in-universe TV anime). i kind of wonder if Dragonite's capture rate being changed was part of an early Anime tie-in idea but then later dropped. Yellow's anime influence drops off after some point. the Safari Zone has capturable Dratini (referencing the banned episode), yet Pokemon like Lickitung is capturable in the wild in cerulean cave (compared to TR's pokemon) which would imply that Lickitung was a forced addition when episodes were jumbled around after Porygon occured, heck, you see Lickitung's pokeball get swept in the water during the Farfetch'd episode before it was actually caught.
That said, it's a little strange that the devs had to account for Pokemon you could technically not capture in the wild. (like Starmie) either because they're not there, or evolves from stones/trades.
If you are talking about Pokémon not being catchable in the wild still having a catch rate assigned: it's just part of the data structure. And the catch rate needs a value, no matter if it's used or not. Second, it can be part of making sure the game behaves as intended even when you hack/glitch that Pokémon in (in order to prevent a game crash).
The Safari Zone always had wild Dratini; what Yellow version added was an even lower chance to find wild Dragonair.
My theory is they were planning on making the brick piece the fighting type damage booster, but decided on the black belt and left it in the coding.
Stardust/piece and Pearls being gen 2 items was actually something I didn't know for once
Never heard the Pokemon Currency referred to as Yen but apparently it is in the Japanese games. In Europe/North America/UK/Australia etc. Its actually called the "Pokemon Dollar"
Yup!
As a kid when the game came out, I remember the rumors of the xp-boosting Lucky Egg that could be found as a held item from Chansey. I went crazy trading Safari Zone Chansey to Gold with no success.
That’s because it’s only held by Wild Chansey in Gen 2 at a 2 percent rate - of a Pokémon that is rare to begin with….yeah. Still wishing I could get those hours of my childhood back.
Man what? How’re you hating on sacred ash being balanced by not being usable in battle? It’s a team wide max revive + max elixer tf 😂
Me: watching a pokemon video to take a break from Genshin Impact
1:09 "I present to you, Collei's theme from Genshin Impact"
FYI the currency in Pokémon isn’t yen. It’s pokedollars.
From the deepest depths of the distortion world, our Chad has came back!!
I love how everyone, everywhere is using SF6 music in the background of vids. Such a fire soundtrack, good choice going with Jamie's theme
I had a lot of the items on this list, honestly. Some I used cheats to get though. One being a Slowpokes tail on Heartgold.
Okay so most people wouldn't know this unless you play The mystery dungeon series The currency for pokémon is not yen or dollars It's called poké and The value of it is based off of yen.
I hope that man and his machop finish that building one day
Lol
I thought Red’s pikachu was holding the light ball? You said that Red’s Pokémon held no items but I swear that was one of two ways to get the thing.
I believe gen 4 red has light ball. I think gen 2 you had to trade from yellow
Red's team does not hold any items, this is a huge misconception probably brought about from the remakes
@@smithplayspokemon Funny enough, you DO get a Light Ball from "Red's Pikachu". More specifically, by trading the starter Pikachu from Pokemon Yellow to Gen 2.
And by funny, I mean it's hilarious that the starter Pikachu only gets any special boosted stats AFTER you trade it away to Gen 2. So, the only one who has a special, Light Ball boosted Pikachu is you, and NOT Red.
Jamie's theme (SF6) caught me off guard, its such a banger I just was absolutely not expecting it here lmaoo
Love your use of Tekken 5 music 😂
Can you imagine how OP the Sacred Ash would be if it could be used in battle?
As a kid I never thought of using the Sacred Ash equipped in battle lol, I just popped it as a full party revive
My favorite Easter Egg is probably the free Tentacool you'll get in HGSS if you deliberately try to softlock yourself in Cianwood City. Even if you release that gift Tentacool, you'll be given another one. I don't know if that also worked in the original games.
the golden rod treasure has always been my goto for speeding up money grinding with payday, love that man
I'm surprised Silver Powder wasn't included on this list, as it can only be obtained with a 2% held rate on wild Butterfree. This is especially hard on Silver version since wild Butterfree can only be captured during the bug catching contest 3 days a week.
interesting video! Thanks for making it and you have a sub~
The BP strategy with Berserk Gene sounds nice but I doubt it is OP. It requires a lot of set-up, two Pokemon, 2 held items, and 2 or more turns. Seems like just Swords Dancing might be a better option in many cases. Gives you 4 attack boosts in only 2 turns or 2 attack boosts in 1 turn depending on what you want, requires only a single Pokemon, does not require a specific item which becomes useless afterward, and does not have a chance to be ruined by your own confusion.
the underground guy was clearly a fence for stolen goods.
If I remember correctly Sacred ash was an auto-cure item like berries! That was so special about it!
I'd like to know if they had any plans for a Mewtwo subplot with the Berserk Gene, since wild Mewtwo is coded to always hold it in GSC
I could be wrong but I think the music in the BG of this video may be from Street Fighter 6. Not sure how the copyright on that works but just a heads up! Hearing it around 6:00
2:33 _🎶I want to be the best there ever was; defeat all the rest, yeah, that’s my cause!_
Tentacruel, Rapidash, Magneton, Kingler, Electrode, Weezing, Seaking, *_Po-kee-mon!_*
2:41
Raichu, Parasect, Venomoth, Golduck, Primeape, Slowbro, Dewgong, Muk!
Hypno, Marowak, Rhydon, Seadra, Mew, Jirachi, Zaru-dee and Hoopa!
_🎶At least one-thousand-and-fifteen, and more to see; to be a Pok-ee-mon Master is my… _*_destiny!_*
Now I wonder if the brick piece gave some inspiration to gen 5 conkeldurr's line
I'd like to see some of these items return someday, especially the Brick Piece. I'm imagining it being able to bypass contacting opponents and giving a small power boost while counting each attack as a move that Bulletproof is immune to. Just imagine: Population Bombs that don't end with your Maushold ded to Ferrothorn Rocky Helmet
That's just protective pads. I could see it having a high damage for fling, or maybe making fling set up stealth rocks though.
So the item that a traded Pokémon is holding is dependent on the catch rate of said Pokémon at the time of capture in gen 1 so that Machop will still have that brick piece when it’s evolved along with any other species with the same catch rate, and b/c machokes catch rate is different than the machoke caught as a machoke will have a different item than the machoke caught as a machop and evolved.
The only exceptions where a Pokémon will have a different held item from normal are: pikachu & Kadabra in yellow, where they are programed to have a different held item, dratini and dragonair caught in yellow cause their catch rate changed, and any of the Pokémon stadium prize pokemon which will have a box containing a trophy depending on the the round the were earned in.
3:35 it's called money laundering 😂
Tbh I'd love to see the beserk gene as a reward for those who did challenge runs and the like, like one pokemon one type runs, stuff like that, and to make sure it's broken, do not let it be usable in competitive play _or_ before the third badge
i played the crap out of gen 1 and gen 2 and had a second gameboy so i traded with myself all the time. i found a lot of those really obscure items, like the brick piece and the silver and gold leaf. had so much fun. i just with i had a n64 to do the pokemon stadium stuff :(
The Berserk Gene was resurfaced in Detective Pikachu. The game and movie.
Thr beserk gene is probably the most weirdest Pokemon item to exsist
Pokémon gold was my very first video game , it’ll always have a special place in my heart
I really hope that they bring back more obscure items from past games to future games, like they did with the whole Berserk Gene/R item.
Why did they not just make the Pink Bow the Fairy Type Boosting item?
Because fairy type pokemon wouldn't be introduced for another 13 years
@@WayToDawn72 Obviously, but why not bring it back into X and Y?
@slicerneons3300 bc by then three gens have already passed and the Polka dot bow is already an obscure item to begin w so only a niche number of fans would pick up the reference let alone appreciate it
@@WayToDawn72 That argument is like saying why 8nvent the Fairy type when we've had 5 gens already without them.
They could have, and IMHO should have.
Doesnt fairy already have a boosting item just like every type?
I'm still mad I never knew the Odd Egg had a much higher chance to be shiny until a few months back
I'm surprised this video didn't talk about Slowpoketail. The most known "obscure item" that everyone doesn't have.
I always thought rage candybar impacted kindness, while potions & medicine items don't.
Great video!
Will these items be available in your Crystal Romhack?
Berserk gene is really fun with baton pass, and have the pokemon you're switching to hold a berry to cure the confusion. Not the most competitively viable strategy, but it's fun when you pull it off. It's really easy to clone in gen 2 as well so getting more berserk genes isn't hard.
Edit. Didnt watch the full video before I commented 😂. Glad he mentioned the strat though
I think the Berserk Gene should make a return. Yes you think it would be overpowered, but the current games are already full of overpowered BS anyways, I don't think it would even make a dent
Isn't the ragebar for boosting moves which power depends on pokemon hating you or something?
Rage Candy Bar I guess was also made as a scam to decieve kids into believe it was associated with Rare Candies
man.....having the dodrio tower in stadium and playing Pokemon blue on the N64, with 3x speed felt like future
I always thought the rage candy bar was just the gen 2 version of buying the magikarp 🤣 a dude just ripping off a bro for the bread
I hope you put the gold and silver trophies in your Crystal romhack as something we can achieve
This is a great idea!