History of WWI Primer 091: Austro-Hungarian Gasser 1870 Documentary
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
Additional reading:
Die hand-und Faustfeuerwaffen der habsburgischen Heere
Erich Gabriel
Gasser-Revolver
Joschi Schuy
ÖSTERREICHISCHE MILITÄRPATRONEN BAND 1
Josef MÖTZ
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Austria, 1870: "Let's put a Thumbscrew on the Ejection Rod."
Germany, 1879: "Let's not use an Ejection Rod."
eFfiCiEnCy!
1 Step guide to defeating german cavalry: take their stick!
@@Nukle0n Step 2: Have a Battalion take their Stick, Step 3: Form Battalion of Sticks into a cluster shaped like a Square with their Pointy Sticks facing outwards in all directions like a hedge, Step 4: Hide Musketeers in the hedge of Pointy Sticks to shoot from. Step 5: Pray that their Cavalry don't have supporting Infantry or Artillery, or enough numbers to simply harry one side of the Square at a time with Pistols. Step 6: Continue Artillery, Ammo, Food, and Numbers to both besiege their Fortified City, Repulse any enemy Relief attempts, and compensate for Wastage. Step 7, Do this to all of their Cities, Step 8: Rejoice! For In just 5 Years, You've Conquered an area the size of Malta at the cost of a mere 26,000,000 Thalers, and 32,000 Men, without losing all of your rightful gains in a peace deal written with the consent of the rest of Europe like the last 4 attempts! :)
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Here in italy, more precisely in Trentino, I found a 1870 round near a ww1 austrian fortress... so they were absolutely used
From my limited understanding, the 1870 Gasser revolver remained popular with officers in particular, as they normally wouldn't carry rifles, and therefore saw the use in having a very strong revolver that can still punch hard at somewhat longer distances. Having a heavier bullet can also be advantageous if you're fighting in windy conditions, like the Alps definitely are, though of course I doubt that was their main issue.
@@PershingDragoon and Austrian storm troopers had it as well
That's epic! Keep looking! Bring a metal detector that can find metals other than steel/iron.
*_Did you take it for yourself to renovate or donate it to the Meuseum. Either works._*
-Doesn't own firearm being discussed.
-Has never heard of firearm being discussed.
-Stays for entire video because C&Rsenal is amazing.
Keep up the awesome work guys! Thanks for everything!
Don’t feel bad for not owning one, they’re $2500-3000 on average.
Horses with knives are the reason my dog carries a .357.
Sounds like the next chapter to that song "cows with guns". Run boy run lol
I wonder how many don't know that a horse with a knife was the last thing that many soldiers ever saw.
Link please, Ben 😄
Damn, now that my dog has read this he complains about me giving him only a .38! Looks like I have to buy him a .357 too.
My dog told me that "guns and knives are for pussies", she always brings fists to gunfights
Please understand that these were NOT cast out of steel. They were forged out of cast steel. I would suggest looking up Benjamin huntsman. The man who invented, or rather reinvented cast steel in 1734 or it might be 1736. This invention revolutionized the steel industry in Sheffield, mostly the edge tool industry. I don't want to go into why this was so important for so long, but if you're interested, old Ben is the place to start.
So, they received cast steel and forged the barrel and working bits out of that (where not mentioned being iron)? I will have to research more so I can understand the matrices and all that out of recasting steel vs. recasting steel or forging out of a solid block of existing cast steel would be. Thanks for igniting an interest in researching methods of the period, I sincerely appreciate it and will learn something undoubtedly.
You forgot to mention that when you hipfire it, it's full auto, and when when you ADS, it's semi auto.
Spencer Easton *BF1 intensifies*
I sigh in perpetuity.
My sighs more of a "I was sick of being killed with guns that didn't make it past that prototype phase" lol.
Jack Andersen or post ww1 weapons
@@cookingonthecheapcheap6921 Certified Hellreigel moment
Happiest of New Years to the C&Rsenal crew!!!! Litterally dropped what I was doing, got the biggest grin on my stupid face, and came here. Best way to start off the new year!
And a heart!?!!!! Mr Beauregard I do declare I'm gettin the vapors!
69th like
I might be drunk as hell but i will never miss a new C&Rsenal video
Haha drunk too
same
I'm just full of regret from being drunk as hell. Glad the comments section suffers from the same degree of alcoholism I do
@@tangero3462 sheesh bro
Not drunk yet, but determined to be working on it. .. soon.
How did they hit anything after two or three shots lol, talk about sending smoke signals to a sharp shooter. Too late Mae, you guys already spoil us. I want that shirt, "No one expects Hand cannon".
cheavy is gudd, cheavy means reliable... if it doesn't work you can still knock somebody down wiz itt...
With the amount of smoke that thing throws out you'll have a portable smoke screen to hide in
T-shirt double pack with "i would take this if a horse came for me with a knife..." about the smoke: Othias mentioned that the plume of smoke would have been less and during it's heyday everything was black powder. Additionally if there's enough wind, how long does the smoke stay where you are?
If you are up in the mountains (where for example the WW1 italian front was,) you almost can't find any place at any time without a good amount of wind. And if you take the k.u.k. Navy: Your position is already pretty defined by the ship you are on board so not much camo or hiding possible.
@keith moore hand canon is definitely the term for it lol. Othias looks gangsta as with his massive gat lol.
@@cookingonthecheapcheap6921
Step aside fat guy - che could not know my name...
Ich habe das Video noch nichtmal gesehen und weiß jetzt schon, dass es perfekt ist. Dieser Kanal hat nur ausgezeichnete Inhalte, weiter so!
Wo du recht hast, hast du recht!
Unsere Zuschauer sind die besten und wir schätzen die Unterstützung, die wir im vergangenen Jahr erhalten haben. Vielen Dank ..... Ausgezeichnet!
@@marknovak8255 woa you speak German? Or is getting google translate really good?
_Leopold Gasser dies suddenly and suspiciously_
_His brother marries his widow_
_the two go on to live happily ever after_
A tale as old as True Crime...
Also the sound of the Gasser shots was very apropos. Very 1812 Overture cannon shot esque.
Your channel should have 1 million subscribers given the in-depth research your do. I guess we can toss that up to people’s limited attention span, especially among younger folks. Awesome work, thanks.
Best way to kick off 2019 right here.
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С Новым Годом, Отайас, Мэй и команда! Happy New Year to Othais, Mae and crew! Cheers from Western Siberia! ^.^
Happy New Year!
You should get Mark to throw a trigger pull gage on that pistol, double action, and see what it gets. I find it hard to believe it competes with the 35+lb pulls some people have got on the WW2 war time production, and refurbished M1895s
What a way to ring in the new year - with a brand new C&Rsenal episode! Thanks folks!
43:00 Oh boy, how many times girls told me exactly the same words....
It be like that
Miriton Delihasani F
By the time of the Great War, just imagine choosing between this and something like a Colt New Service in .45 Colt. It’s so freaking big and cool, but even by big, cool service revolver standards, this big boy seems to represent a line in revolver tech between obsolete and still serviceable. Great episode, I’ve been looking for ward to this one since the Webley episode!
In those part of Europe, we call Balkan, this big revolvers had been seen as a ,manly' weapon.
I like to think that at that point for some it was the difference between choosing a gun and choosing a sharp stick.....and a rock....that may or may not have been shared by the whole platoon.
Greethings from Austria
I calculated the price from 19Gulden 36Kreuzer pre war silver standart for you Othias
1Gulden is 10,20€
one Kreuzer is 1/100 Gulden or 0,102€
its 197,47€ or 226,94 USD as of 1st of January 2019
labour and manhours back then were worth almost worthless
i would say that is not a good deal for mass production
for example a new Glock costs abaut 700€ but the material and machining costs are just at ~130€ each , the rest goes into paying employees, development, repairs, new machinery/millbits , taxes, import taxes into other countrys, registering as new gun in Austria to get export permits, export permits, pressure proofing, marketing, shipping and then finally profit
previous to 1850 the Gulden was at 13,40€
Thanks for doing the work to put it in perspective.
@@GunFunZS NP yw
This weapon appears in Battlefield 1 as a sidearm for the assault class
My god, Mae looks like she's struggling just to hold that thing up. That smile though. She always enjoys shooting. That lucky girl.
Yaeh! the hand cannon. Best new year's present yet.
The only hand gun to require a bipod.
Until the French gign 357
@@codyjackalope8464 Funny enough I was talking to a Gendarme officer in Normandy a few years back, admiring HER gun, she said she loved the .357, the mere fact it was there, stopped a lot of trouble.
What the hell did Othias take out? What was that massive BFG?
1879 Reichsrevolver maybe?
@@Nukle0n Looks like it was "Montenegrin" of some kind, but really more like a Francote style revolver. th-cam.com/video/tID2i-BPJvI/w-d-xo.html
Advanced thumbscrew technology
FINALLY! ive been waiting for this episode more than any other! Well except for the future episodes on the Madsen and Hotchkiss 1914.
Happy new year to everyone at candrsenal . I subscribed recently and your channel has been awesome so far .
Happy New Year. Glad to have you!
You guys have the most informative gun channel and is one of my favorites.
I would first say that May is Queen Beast and here is why, she actually staged the double action trigger on the monstrous revolver. This is a harder feat than you would think requiring a lot of skill and practice . LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!!! Yehaa from East Ky view 3766 like 455
I love mine, it’s still missing the firing pin and ejector but it’s still a great addition to the collection. One day I’ll find the parts to put it back together.
I cannot for the life of me remember where I read it, but somewhere I heard the only way people can shoot these pistols today is by cutting down a 7.62×54R cartridge to the proper length and it shouldn't need any necking up or down as the case with the bottleneck cut off is the property diameter
In old horse drawn vehicles, it was lefty tighty on the left and righty tighty on the right. this way as you drove them the wheel nuts stayed tight.
Didn't know that, but seems to be a legitimate explanation. I know we can see evidence in Pompei that almost all turns as designed by street planners of the day were right-turns, but I'm not sure exactly why, but it did carve into the stone the signs. Makes sense either way for the screws to be designed around turns so you don't unthread them and I live in Utah, where we have wide streets in the old downtown as a result of them being designed around the idea of horse drawn carriages being capable of making u-turns upon them with wide berth.
Was also common on motor vehicles for many years. You had to remeber which nuts went in your left pocket and which in your right if you took of more than one wheel at a time. .
Most fans, circular saws and gas fuel fittings are left handed threads too.
The different thread pattern is still in use with the pedals of bicycles.
@@Player_Review yes the old roads are often 60 ft. or wider, that way freight wagons could turn around.
Primary use of this gun: 52:20 If a horse comes at you with a knife. LOL, that's a quote that should last forever! Love Othais! Don't ever change.
Happy New Year everyone!
While stationed in Europe during the 70's, I seen one Gasser 1874 still in private possession with some ammo at hand.
Also one Lefeux(?) DA pinfire revolver you showed.
This one was offered to me for then ATS 1000 (approx US$ 83).
I spoke with Mr. Moetz (then a Artillery Officer in the Austrian Armed Forces) at a gun show in the province of Lower Austria
about pin fire ammo. Nothing came of it.
40 years later all 3 are on your channel.
Happy New year "A horse with a knife."
You have created a monster.i cannot get enough more more history
Takes the mick out of Mae for getting mixed up on a thumbscrew that back to front and upside down.... then decides to chamber the cylinder axis when it's right under his nose at 30:50! ;-) smoothly done, barely noticed it....
The banter between you two is the cherry on this scholarship sundae.
What a great way to start a new year. Thanks all.
I've been secretly hoping for the last two years that we'd get a video on this wonderful piece. Every time you'd do a series, my heart would sink just a little in knowing that it'd be at least a few more weeks. Those weeks became months and then, here we are, the Gasser sitting in my Sub feed, waiting for me. Now that the guests have left and the champagne has worn off, it's time to sit down enjoy my first YT video of 2019. Thank you, C&Rsenal, for giving me a little hope that maybe this will be the year some of my hopes finally start coming to fruition!
Every time your favorite gets delayed, the chances of better info, better video, and better audio goes up!
@@Candrsenal You're absolutely right, this episode was fantastic! I've yet to watch a C&Rsenal video I haven't enjoyed thoroughly!
Happy New Year!
I love these videos!! I wish you guys could show us how y'all make the ammo for theses old guns.
I think Mark may have uploaded some on Anvil where he's taken existing cases and cut them down for the correct headspacing etc and loads for c&rsenal, but could be incorrect as I can't remember which vid it was (if there even was one) and I think it may have just been conversation filler devoid of the actual video. Several folks on the crew may be capable of making the ammo. Anywho, I think more reference to the ammo sourcing _probably_ wouldn't hurt. They usually manage pretty great groupings with Mae's skill and the quality of the firearms/ammo, so whatever they're doing, I am confident they're doing it right. Would love to see info on ammo used on each range example for reference, including the bullet grain and gunpowder measurements. Othais seems to always reference some difference when the firearm used isn't necessarily in the same caliber of the most common gauge used by the military.
Midway usa has some videos you would like
Ferlach is still an area where highly priced hunting weapons are made. (Mostly handmade and fitted to the customers size, and preference.
Adn to the hole in the screw and the wire: wouldn't a wire through the hole and around the gun be a safety to keep the screw from unwinding? Hearing of the recoil this would make more sense to me, as the impact of shooting gets screws loose...
A Happy New Year Othais and crew! A nice video to end the year while washing dishes, I look forward to what you will bring in 2019 and wish you all well.
Indeed. So glad they all put in the hours to help make history more rich.
This is one of my favorite revolvers. Ever since I realised this wasn't just some weird thing BF1 made up, i've wanted one.
I'd love to have one, preferably a modern reproduction, that way I don't have to feel bad about wanting to shoot it.
0:05 bottom left of the picture sits what looks like the guy form the history of everything podcast
Here's to another year of Othias and Mae
I have been staring at my revolver poster for a year waiting for this episode!! Happy 2019!
The Spiller and Burr was double action too...
I love the way the Gasser looks!
Nicolas Francotte started his firm in 1810 and he was born in 1801? That is a 9 year old businessman.
12:40 Very steampunk.
46:35 "It rocks ... like an old cavalry pistol". *Isn't it* an old cavalry pistol?
Thank you for this episode of the Gasser. I can see it fitting a cavalry use. A real horse pistol to kill enemy horses. Just as the Walker was made to do. Reloading was not an issue. When the revolver was empty your sword was the next choice. Oooh. I see the Comblain again! Have I mentione the Comblain before? I just may have.......
Happy new years CandRsenal team.
I wonder if after the 100th primer, ....you could get Mae to do her favorite top 5 favorite revolvers and top 5 rifles.
Shooting a full house load of a Walker Colt is pretty much on par with this Revolver. The Walker Colt was designed to be powerful enough to bring down a horse as it was a cavalry pistol. I don’t know if that had been a secondary justification for the round.
yes one of my favorite revolvers in history great work
I woke up this morning. And seen that this was
So it was a News Years prise. Keep up the good work.
what is that monster off to the side during the after-shooting chat
Jack Galati Probably a Montenegrin variant of some sort.
A horse with a knife...
The lols :)
Don't get complacent! They have one on the bottom of each foot if shod!
What a coincidence... during the Mayversation part about the hammer weight, I was wondering if a Nagant comparison would come ... and sure enough seconds later... My Nagant ('34 production year) literally has a 25 pound double-action trigger pull, it broke my Lyman trigger gauge :D
Sick as a dog on new years, drinking down cough medicine instead of champagne, all my fun ruined by the plague. What's this in my subscription feed? C&Rsenal with a revolver large enough to club a rabid moose to death with. 2019's not starting so badly after all. Thanks Othias, Mae, and the rest of the team, happy new year.
Oh yes! Been looking forward to this.
Happy New Year! And hell yes, just got the notification. Are we going to be seeing an episode on the M1873 model, too?
Is that a comblain rifle in the background?
Ron Lynquist yes
@4:46 Adam Driver is either a time traveler or a vampire
That's a happy new year.
Yet another gun I'd love to have a modern copy of
What a toy; makes me truly appreciate the delicate nature of a Freedom Arms model 83.
I really like your "Anonymous Late 19th Century Man" portrait, it makes me chuckle every time I see it
Happy New Year Mae, Othias and crew! What another great video/tutorial/history lesson on this behemoth Rast & Gasser revolver. Getting to see it and all these other less common firearms fired is the icing on the cake, well done and thank you! :-)
Happy New Year to all at C&Rsenal :)
Holy hell I was hoping you'd release this soon. Happy New year. I love yall
wow me and 29 people so far not getting laid on years year lmao
freedom had to get laid earlier in the night anticipating the upload.
Sex is temporary, the 1870 Gasser is forever
It's just a date on the calendar.
You thirty folks should meet up to lay each other.
@@STG44VOLVO lol no thanks... 240 DL?
You know some dude with big balls would surely use Werndl carbine cartridges in this thing full-time.
What’s the gun that Othais and Mark want to get running? What episode did that first make an appearance in????
An image of Jethro and Jethrene Bodine together popped into my mind when you said Leopold and Leopoldine.
Hope you all had a safe and happy New Year's!
Super job as usual. Thank you and Happy New Year
Horse with a knife... New shirt idea from Othias? The comparison of the trigger to the Nagant was a good way to give we normal collectors an idea of the pull. Mae said the .44 Mag was lighter-recoil shooting... How does it compare to a S&W 500?
Merry new year!
Best skiing sound effects ever. 🎿⛷
Happy New Years. This video is going to let me start the new year right. 🎉🎉🎊🎊👍
21:18 Mae " I love the smell of black powder first thing in the morning...."
happy new year
thanks for the video and happy new year!!
The Smoke clears and Mae is smiling!
"Big, dumb and slow" He hung it over the plate, so you have to smack it over the fence.
What is that big gun at the end that Othais was saying didn't run?
Righty tighty is fine, but as the pistol is held it's upside down, therefore backwards.
You have to twist it left to turn it right.
Waving around a big gun does you no good if it's soft, metal, and won't even shoot blanks.
Happy New Year folks!
Happy New Years .. great channel. Needs more subs!
Is there anything written down about how many karibiner cartridges this gun can fire in a pinch before it's completely DQ'd?
Happy New Year ! Lots of healt, money and old guns!
I just said the words "locking lugs" at a New Years eve party...the only people listening were veterans🤣(.45 AARP...I almost spit whiskey into my monitor)
Jeff Carver as a reloader,that has happened to me for over 40 years, I feel your pain
@@boriscook6817 I appreciate your understanding there...wish I understood powder loads better so I could make decent rounds...someday 😁
This massive piece was called Montenegrin colt, since in Kingdom of Montenegro since 1873, every Montenegrin of military age had a legal obligation to own a Gasser revolver with an extended barrel, with the monogram of the ruler - Prince and King Nikola I.
The Battlefield 1 codex has an entry on the Gasser saying it was favored by Austrian storm troops. Since 2016 I’ve wondered what their source was.
happy new year!