The Ls9 "Nightmare " Saga EP#3

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  • we square the Decks and valley with the BHJ Blocktru fixture in this episode
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  • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
    @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's nice watching a knowlegable machinist using good equipment working magic. ;)

  • @jjclarkson3261
    @jjclarkson3261 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Goes to show that just owning the equipment is not enough. You gotta know what you're doing, too! Great explanations

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I appreciate that!

    • @mvg-1776
      @mvg-1776 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep. Only time will give experience.

    • @cwf081166
      @cwf081166 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mvg-1776 this like most isn't a trade were a person learns a skill on the customers dime

  • @teepi280
    @teepi280 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What I like about this: what a clean, tidy and organised the workshop. Indicative of a company that's going to do a good job.

  • @larrybeussink7737
    @larrybeussink7737 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I understand how you feel about tolerances. Some guys are okay being within specs but I always feel better getting it as close to perfect as possible.

  • @kenmoore800
    @kenmoore800 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I would’ve been worried about my setup if I saw the block was that far off. Great video love to watch a craftsman at work.

  • @j81851
    @j81851 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing craftsmanship. I love machining. I just think this type of work is like Superman with his cape coming in to save the day and right the wrong! I am so excited I found your channel and subscribed today. You deserve 200000 subs with your pleasant demeanor and awesome machining skills you and your shop do! I am a fan now for sure. Please keep them coming!

  • @The340king
    @The340king ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The average for the factory Mopar blocks I have worked on is 0.012” end to end with a little bit of unlevel decks. The Chevy blocks have been closer to 0.017” end to end. Definitely worth the effort and use of the BHJ Block Tru fixture.

  • @flexmasterson4297
    @flexmasterson4297 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video teaches me that you need several qualities to be a competent machinist, some of which are the desire to be competent and do quality work, buying quality tools, keep your tools well maintained within tolerances, understand why and how to use the tools competently, and understanding what you are suppose to achieve with the tool on behalf of your customer. Decking two sides to different planes, neither of which are parallel to the centerline of the crankshaft denotes incompetence or neglect of the customer. Thank you again, Mr. Powell. I’m fascinated with your work and enjoying the videos a great deal.

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tyvm, you have a very good observation on the subject

  • @joemilbrandt9320
    @joemilbrandt9320 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Totally interesting!! Fun watching a skilled tradesman!!

  • @jimgandee2570
    @jimgandee2570 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just so appreciate your dedication to perfection and willingness to share your knowledge! I’ve got a BBC 454 with 990 heads in my flat bottom boat. When it come time to build that motor I’ll reach out!

  • @rafirasuli8562
    @rafirasuli8562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are a very knowledgeable talented and experienced machinist I hope everyone who watches these episodes realize how much work and knowledge goes into an engine. Thank you for sharing your awesome videos.

  • @nathanhine286
    @nathanhine286 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great Content, please keep up the LS stuff

  • @n4bhpat
    @n4bhpat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are the southern version of Steve Morris! Your skill and knowledge is amazing and content is awesome. I want to build a 68 Camaro and when it comes time for an engine I’ll come see you. I’m up in Charlotte so you aren’t too far a drive from here!

  • @frankwoodward1231
    @frankwoodward1231 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Had a brand new 502 was .030 out. Right where you measured. Worst block ive ever seen.
    I have that same surfacer. My dad made a real nice touch off indicator for it. Like the DCM machines had/have.
    Great content in your vids. Subscribed!

  • @budlight9009
    @budlight9009 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Someone decked that thing with a wood chipper 😂

  • @MC-de6tf
    @MC-de6tf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They use to say, "too cool for school!" I would have to say excellent machine work.

  • @danielweinbaum
    @danielweinbaum 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You remind me of Bud Lorow ! He was the VP of engineering at Hawk Marine Power in the early 90's! Hell of an engine builder!

  • @arcorob
    @arcorob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FASCINATING !!!!!

  • @mce1919A4
    @mce1919A4 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nicely done , thank you.

  • @richardcolozzi6425
    @richardcolozzi6425 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Quite a process thanks for explaining the machine shop

  • @dougshukers4658
    @dougshukers4658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great job!!

  • @thomashopkins2609
    @thomashopkins2609 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful! Awesome job!

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great information, skill and knowledge at work. Thanks for sharing.

  • @AARSB1
    @AARSB1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great content and educational. I wish i followed through with doing this as a career im 50 years old and would love to get back into engine building.

  • @AARSB1
    @AARSB1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just saw your 4 hrs from the beach. Ill be calling you.

  • @gordonbryan8381
    @gordonbryan8381 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just to expand on how precise Daniel’s machining and machines are: if he was removing .0001” (one thousandth) of an inch on each pass, it would take him 32.25 passes through the machine to remove just 1/32 of an inch, the smallest graduation you can read on most tape measures.
    Just amazing to see this repeatable precision, from a man who gets miffed when he “only” gets within a thousandth of an inch. No cornbread here 🗜️

  • @neilhansen9886
    @neilhansen9886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good explanation of setups & machinery techniques 👍

  • @robertheymann5906
    @robertheymann5906 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've used BHJs tooling on race blocks for IMSA prototype V8s, good quality and built solid.

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice job Daniel.
    Thanks for sharing. 👍

  • @kumakaroshi117
    @kumakaroshi117 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the finish after freshly cut

  • @davidjackson4112
    @davidjackson4112 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Impressive workmanship.

  • @terrylong6457
    @terrylong6457 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I never realised how inaccurate they are at the factory. Great job. I just subscribed.

  • @jimdavis6833
    @jimdavis6833 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It must be one hell of an expensive, or rare block to go to so much trouble rather than just replacing it.

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We do this to blocks often

    • @MonzaRacer
      @MonzaRacer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's called blueprinting for a reason!

  • @111000100101001
    @111000100101001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I used Block Tru fixture when squaring up and zero decking my 454. Man those things were bad from factory.

  • @patrickwendling6759
    @patrickwendling6759 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for your knowledge and video's USA 🇺🇸

  • @Sufficient_Distance
    @Sufficient_Distance 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Strong work

  • @jamesblocker5235
    @jamesblocker5235 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It just makes for a frustrating day you have to start out fixing other peoples mistakes that shouldn’t happen. It happens because of one simple thing laziness

  • @yafois988
    @yafois988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hmm I wonder how the bolt alignment will be after all this cutting and the new angles they will be intersecting at.

  • @misterhipster9509
    @misterhipster9509 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Block True for the win.

  • @GHuggins
    @GHuggins 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wish I had known about you 10 years ago before having a shop ruin a lsa block and another ruin a lsx iron block.

  • @bradhuffjr777
    @bradhuffjr777 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Are y'all from SACRILANA or NOCRKLINA? 😊

  • @jakewade7388
    @jakewade7388 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know on the Gen 3 stuff, the pistons are normally .006-.007 out of the hole at TDC from the factory.

  • @lawerncemiller6557
    @lawerncemiller6557 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have yet to see you make a video of a engine build your's or someone else that has been a good engine sure would like seeing you built a good engine with no problems

    • @danielpowell884
      @danielpowell884 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep, unfortunately we get alot of "fixing another shops mess" we have some Virgin builds in the pipeline, just time.... we are booked out 6 months

  • @Hitman-ds1ei
    @Hitman-ds1ei 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Actually its only 5 or 6 off square but you know that !

  • @jamesweber4938
    @jamesweber4938 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Right on the money with every comment. You know your stuff !

  • @OneSpeedRalph
    @OneSpeedRalph 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just had to say something about this block as you have shone that the same was done to both sides.
    Being no one knows the history of the block other then someone cut the block this way.
    Can I remind you of the 348 and 409 engine? No 90-degree on the deck.
    If this block was at one time used in a class of rules and it had to stock.
    Everything that you can do is used that is not checked.
    If you cut .010 taper here and .010 there it will equal to .020, who will see this?
    This will change the valve angle entering in the cylinders.
    How much power it equals only those that do it know.
    Take a crank and turn it under .010 and add .005 to the stroke.
    Yea someone could not grind a crank right.
    You should be getting the point by now.
    For me in my younger days 1970-ss I did run NHRA Stock Eliminator racing.
    I had a 427 - 425 hp BBC - B/S car that could run .200 under the record.
    I could never set a record with it or make 2 runs back to back.
    Because new rear gears would only last one run (3700 lbs legal weight).
    The rear had to be stock parts.
    It’s amassing how many little things you can be done to make power that most people will never know about.
    Today I’m legally blind so I don’t see all the screw-ups that I made here in 2hrs.
    You’re doing good work, keep it up.
    Ralph

  • @the_Wingading
    @the_Wingading 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've always wondered how they reference the face to machine a block like this, great stuff! One question though: How does the fly cutter only cut on the leading edge? Is the tool or spindle at a slight angle for this reason?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, the head is tilted a couple thousandths

  • @merlinglennon5370
    @merlinglennon5370 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wasn't that angle decking an old school thing, so you wouldn't have to do any intake manifold manifold machining?

  • @marks2254
    @marks2254 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do those blocks have steel sleeves that require special precautions when decking?

  • @tonysabatino4725
    @tonysabatino4725 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How is the RA the same at the front of the bank to the rear without the machine head not completely passing over? Is there a slight axes to the machine head which doesn’t allow the cutter to make a return cut from the back?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I can only assume you don't understand how a surfacer works.

    • @tonysabatino4725
      @tonysabatino4725 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@powellmachineinc3179 guess not so much.

  • @HeadFlowInc
    @HeadFlowInc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you’re going to deck an LS block There’s a high probability you’re going to end up with piston above the deck. I do not know why GM did not provide service ability margin.

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I believe that's why they ended up at a .051 gasket, we have seen oem blocks at zero,

    • @lgun1
      @lgun1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have seen OEM blocks with the piston 6 or 7 thou out of the hole. Do you know who did the machine work on this block, the first time? @@powellmachineinc3179

  • @mikediamond1522
    @mikediamond1522 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Are the bores perpendicular to the center of the mains?
    Mike
    What are the specs?

    • @TheAzmotorhead
      @TheAzmotorhead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On a 90* V engine. THe head surface should be perpendicular to the crank. Once he sets up the cylinder boring machine (it sits on the head surface) that will ensure the bores are perpendicular to the crank.

  • @havebenthere
    @havebenthere 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I stopped fully relying on the BHJ fixture! The cam bore can be off from the factory and the decks actually be close to square. Simply stated it's just another tool on the road to perfection that you can use in coordination with other things. By it's self NO. Use it on an old gen 1 sbc and you'll be off in neverland as the chamfer on front cam bore was always off center on 80% of those blocks. I machined a puck instead and wasn't thrown off like the bhj cones. If the BHJ cone is off .001 just think how far that plate edge can end up off!

  • @stevepearson6316
    @stevepearson6316 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can get head gaskets made to a specific thickness? Would that also mean the intake manifold would need a thicker gasket?

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What are those eight round pieces sticking up out of the valley area? I’ve never seen anything mentioned about them anywhere. Is it just leftover from the casting process?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those are the ports for the DOD System if so equipped.

  • @kevintaylor9086
    @kevintaylor9086 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How much is too much to deck a block

  • @dresdensvo
    @dresdensvo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After decking the block and heads on a LS . How do you check and correct the fit of a plastic intake ?

  • @jamesgibson5876
    @jamesgibson5876 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We gone bak aout

  • @joespratt413
    @joespratt413 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How often do you have to dress that grinding wheel?

  • @JayJay-de8vq
    @JayJay-de8vq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LS9 were known for a poor deck finish, very rough finish. I'm Wondering if someone had surfaced it once before to clean it up and milled it incorrectly.

  • @kricketscreations4887
    @kricketscreations4887 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you use a pcd or cbn know pcd for aluminum but with the steel sleeves in there or just take a little at a time with pcd 🤔 run same rcm 10

  • @davidreed6070
    @davidreed6070 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What are you thinking about the intake and head ports matching up?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We will mill the cylinder head intake face to the correct dimension for intake alignment

    • @davidreed6070
      @davidreed6070 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@powellmachineinc3179 good job man.

  • @BrokenPortriats
    @BrokenPortriats 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You don't buy this machine at Walmarts. Only thing this shop doesn't have is an engine dyno. Sick.

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We have one, just haven't had time to finish the dyno room

  • @ralfsautomotive
    @ralfsautomotive 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Depending on the position(angle) of that needle the measurement will no longer be accurate! But anyway out is out and it is clearly out.

  • @lazyhoundracing9621
    @lazyhoundracing9621 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's pretty cool. Does the blueing provide any lubrication?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Na, just visual, I do spray a lubricant to help with aluminum sticking to the insert.

  • @leeanthony9495
    @leeanthony9495 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    should this step be done first? does this mean the head bolt holes you drilled aren't 90* to the block?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really? Maybe you should watch that episode again, what was the block fixtured from when the head bolts were done?

    • @leeanthony9495
      @leeanthony9495 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@powellmachineinc3179 I'm not claiming to be a machinist (I wish I could do this stuff btw). Some of the camera angles from the previous video make it look like the block surfaces are not the same as the fixture. What would be the reason that you wouldn't do the decking procedure first? Just curious. Thanks

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@leeanthony9495 The block in both operations is fixtured from the cam/crank centerline, the main bore is always the first op.... it is always the datum point, we always save the decking for near to last as possible to make sure that surface stays pristeen

  • @kkbodyshop
    @kkbodyshop 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this David's block?

  • @stevepearson6316
    @stevepearson6316 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Won't taking so much off the hight of the deck make the pistons stroke to long ? Or possibly cause the head bolts to bottom out befor thay are tight ?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Na, we are only talking. 010

    • @gabeesquivelLethalZR1
      @gabeesquivelLethalZR1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      small bump in compression will help a bit.@@powellmachineinc3179

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the maximum depth of cut per pass do you normally limit yourself to?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most normal stuff. 003.005, put I could take .030 in 1 pass, just never need to

  • @JayJay-de8vq
    @JayJay-de8vq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im curious, does that fly cut leave a back cut or is it set on angle so it does not back cut and if so does that technically leave a dip down the center of the cut seeing as the fly cutter is round?

    • @JayJay-de8vq
      @JayJay-de8vq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I suppose the "dip" would not be visible when indicating from the cutter head sweeping back and forth. Would need to use a precision straight edge I suppose.

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, it has a very slight tilt, the "dip" is almost unmeasurable

    • @JayJay-de8vq
      @JayJay-de8vq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@powellmachineinc3179 I have asked other people that do this type of work and they just did not understand how it would technically have a dip down the center since it has tilt to avoid a back cut and it started to make me question my self haha thank you for the fast response, you have a high quality shop and do high quality work the attention to detail is great!

  • @Jesse-lu7bt
    @Jesse-lu7bt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes or no my 2015 Silverado 5.3 is it worth it to put a 6.2 intake throttle body on it for per formas😮

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      5.3 cathedral port, 6.2 8s a rectangle port.

    • @Jesse-lu7bt
      @Jesse-lu7bt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@powellmachineinc3179 thanks ur knowledge ur good ur proof is the vidios ur ol school roll ur sleeves up and does it ur good

  • @woodey028
    @woodey028 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the RA on the final pass?

  • @jeffallen3382
    @jeffallen3382 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How much did the previous shop deck that block?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We don't have a way to "know" for sure, but we can guess around. 01 give or take

    • @jeffallen3382
      @jeffallen3382 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@powellmachineinc3179just got to the end of the video where you say how far down the deck is now from the factory.

  • @lyndalanthony635
    @lyndalanthony635 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where are your safety glasses?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same place as my ear plugs and steel toe shoe's

  • @robertoudokrapf453
    @robertoudokrapf453 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OLÁ. Fizeste apenas uma plaina PARCIAL. Isto indica que sua máquina NÃO ESTÁ REGULADA . Seu sistema de conferir a planicidade com relógio É TOTALMENTE INADEQUADO, desnecessário pois nada tem a haver com o que pretendes fazer. ABRAÇOS... Roberto Udo Krapf

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You have no idea about engine machining, we appreciate your comments but they are just wrong.

    • @robertoudokrapf453
      @robertoudokrapf453 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@powellmachineinc3179 Exato! Não tenho idéias. Tenho o conhecimento Técnico que por 45 anos profissionalmente visitava asretificadoras. Sugiro que estude geometria primária. Verás um novo mundo. ABRAÇOS Roberto Udo Krapf.

  • @danielsteward5090
    @danielsteward5090 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a bit surprised that the decks were that far out of square from the cam/Crank C.L. whoever did the work on that block before you needs to go back to apprenticeship in a Real machine shop.

  • @c6widebody
    @c6widebody ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I showed the videos of this engine beating up on some high horsepower cars. I honestly don’t know how it stayed together. Unbelievable. 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  ปีที่แล้ว

      Miracles do happen

    • @c6widebody
      @c6widebody ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently! I’m both excited to watch the progress and angry at how many things are wrong with this engine

  • @2nickles647
    @2nickles647 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What im seeing is the factory guys not checking the decks and no attention to detail.
    Shame on chevy.

    • @2nickles647
      @2nickles647 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Factory doesn't check blocks. It would take forever to check each block out of thousands and thousands of blocks.
      Its the machinist that setup the blocks for cutting and drilling. They are set up wrong from the start.

  • @ovabarton2810
    @ovabarton2810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Where are your safety glasses ?

    • @powellmachineinc3179
      @powellmachineinc3179  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We don't, I should...but I don't

    • @2nickles647
      @2nickles647 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Machinist dont wear safety glasses. It interferes with reading a nats ass hair. 😅

    • @ovabarton2810
      @ovabarton2810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This Machinist always wore safety glasses while the machine was running . If you want to lose your sight go ahead and be a fool .@@2nickles647

    • @jakewade7388
      @jakewade7388 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can always count on an either a safety or grammar nazi.

    • @ovabarton2810
      @ovabarton2810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to be of service !@@jakewade7388