Hambini already explained that it might even make the aerodynamics worse and that there is no point in such a product because there is dirty air coming from the crankset.
GCN Tech took a closer at one and they were told by CeramicSpeed that it reduces the turbulence coming from the crankset. I think they said it saves something like 2 seconds over 25km…
Honestly, I’ve spent some money on some questionable things in my life but this is another level. I guess we’ll see if pro’s use this kind of tech. That’s how you’ll know if it’s more than vanity (which is a perfectly good reason to buy this btw)
Pros ride what they are given. The teams do sponsor deals, the riders have little choice unless they are a big name. Even then the name is removed and sometimes the sponsored name is added.
Look at this video th-cam.com/video/EM5yJcftz74/w-d-xo.html at 5:25 mark, some pros don’t even know what bike they’re riding on. They ride what they’re given even if it doesn’t perform great. They have to make the sponsors happy so that they can have a job.
Pros who are sponsored by Ceramicspeed will use this, not necessarily because it makes them go faster but because their contracts with Ceramicspeed requires they use the product. If you see some using it unbranded then this is a sign that they think it gives a performance benefit and they spent their own lobby on it.
Dude - you've come so far - 36k subs is amazing - congrats and great content as always! Have to ask if you could spare a sec - I never did the recall for my SL7 steerer tube. Is it worth it? My LBS didn't seem too worried when the recall was new and I lost track of time. What are your thoughts?
I like their UFO Drip. Silca SS is probably better for the wallet, but I prefer UFO because it lasts longer and doesn't make a mess during the application.
Definitely skeptical about the performance gains with this, then again some people seem to be skeptical of every new piece of bike tech yet we’re currently seeing the fasted Tour de France ever right now so…. 🤷🏻♂️
The aero aspects of this are already discussed in the comments but the bigger question is why wouldn’t people just buy fake ceramicspeed stuff on aliexpress. Even if it is like 30% worse in quality, it costs like 40 bucks from China and you can break it dozens of times until it costs the same as any ceramic speed gear
Pretty sure these "marginal gains" products are produced expressly for the intended use of World Tour level pro teams. They just sell them to the general Fred Public so they can attain "production model" status, which I think all UCI approved gear has to be in order to be raced. In other words, they don't really expect to sell many.
@@GCPerformance18 did you do update? I'm looking at red axs but thought to go ospw to save a few watts, someone said seems to save time up hill but lose time on flat and downhill as aero drag cancels the chain efficiency from it
So let me get this right, they pushed a gigantic pulley wheel set that increased frontal area thus drag where the air is already very disturbed anyway and are now offering a solution to the aero problem they claimed not to have created for $800? I suppose next they will offer a $500 brush with special applicator to clean it and claim that will save 49 seconds due to trapped grime reducing efficiency. Then next year introduce a smaller model with better aero. Year after introduce a larger pulley for lower friction. Rinse and repeat?
@gcperformance Hi buddy, I have a Tarmac SL7 mechanical Ultegra and I am converting it to Di2, I can’t seem to find the battery holder in my pack, I do have the seat post junction box cover and the right spacer without the holes. But looks like I never got the battery holder. Can you please let me know what is part number or a link to the Di2 battery holder? It will be a massive help. Thanks a lot for your videos!
OK, elite level bike components are not cheap. Carbon wheelsets for example. But this? How much? Pardon? I’m definitely for ceramic bearings and low viscosity oil…..my Shimano baitcaster fishing reel can spin on freespool for over a minute with Boca ceramic bearings. Technically an interesting proposition. Financially? 😆 Comparing weight to aero however, I think physics is on the side of aero for marginal gains. I don’t think many Tour bikes are at the UCI limit of 6.8 kg
There are 2 small groups of cyclists who put things like this on their bikes: 1. Pro teams who get paid to expose this crap on their bikes (but wouldn’t do it otherwise) 2. Slightly overweight middle age folks who do a 30 miles ride once a week and barely can hold 17mph behind a group.
If you know anything about bearings, the abec scale all that ish from our childhood. You should understand that ceramics smoke steel bearings. Its fact. As far as this fairing thing. Im sure they wind tunneled it so its proven.
Hi Does Shimano sell a long cage separately for Dura ace 11 speed derailleur, i would like to run 11-32t cassette and the dura-ace is is only good to 30t. Is there someone that sells just the pully assembly for dura-ace up to 32 t
yea I dont think I would buy one, this is expensive, but stil not close to there most expensive product, they have one out for 1900 3d printed titanium, I think they are going after the market that slf ospw already has, and people will buy this, no doubt in my mind... will it make a difference, probably not.
All I see is an $800 boat anchor that screams I have more money than I have practical sense. Would rather spend that money on other upgrades like a badass paint job or a but load of tires and maintenance products
Having a cover for aerodynamic gains on a rear derailleur like this is kinda stupid. The RD has to move up and down because riders are constantly shifting gears. Maybe in the biggest cog do you get some aero advantage but let's be real if you're in your granny gear in the cassette chances are you are NOT going fast. This is more weight thrown on to the bike and less weight in your bank account. I'll file this purchase as: "FALSE" & "DUMB"
This thing is the equivalent of the fake performance holes people stick on to their car hoods and fenders. It looks impressive to the handful of people who know absolutely nothing about cars. To anyone with an elementary school diploma or higher, it’s something fun to point and laugh at.
@@GCPerformance18 It’s definitely a matter of tastes. If I’m doing it for pure aesthetics, I just go traditional OSPW. In my opinion this thing with a giant fairing on it is clunky looking.
"Slim numbers" = negligible if any benefit. How long till the overweight dentists and real estate agents riding top of the range Pinarellos start adding this jewellery to their bikes??? Waste of money for 99.9% of riders.
I think Ceramicspeed are making a mistake by selling it for $800, they should just sell it for a cool $1500, there is still suckers out there that go for these kind of bs products. Every-time I see someone with OSPW stuff on their bikes, I feel sorry for the world. Don't degrade yourself and your channel with stupid products like these, they have never looked cool. If you really need to offload some cash, then buy an $800 bike and give it to someone who needs it. I'm sure the feeling you get from doing that will make you feel faster than with this bs product.
Let me know down below, should I buy one of these for the channel and run it on my bike lol
Give it to me yes
buy if you can afford, else it is not going to make any performance difference to casual rider
Many at the Tour ran it for the TT..
It had the Danish flag on it . Win on Sunday. Sell it on Monday.
Personally, I wouldn't buy any snake oil...
You want to buy one for yourself, we know.
Hambini already explained that it might even make the aerodynamics worse and that there is no point in such a product because there is dirty air coming from the crankset.
None of that matters if you look cool
@@galenkehler That thing is gonna sell on aliexpress for 20 euro very very soon.
GCN Tech took a closer at one and they were told by CeramicSpeed that it reduces the turbulence coming from the crankset. I think they said it saves something like 2 seconds over 25km…
@@nicolaschateauneuf297 cough cough! 😯🤣
@@waynosfotos Did I do something wrong?😅
The major advantage of this is the billboard space for advertising. The Danish riders had full flags for the TDF
I have done lot of useless cosmetic upgrades to my bike. But, I'm never ever going near OSPW.
Thank you for the detailed presentation...You are one of the best presenters here on TH-cam in my opinion.
Honestly, I’ve spent some money on some questionable things in my life but this is another level. I guess we’ll see if pro’s use this kind of tech. That’s how you’ll know if it’s more than vanity (which is a perfectly good reason to buy this btw)
Pros ride what they are given. The teams do sponsor deals, the riders have little choice unless they are a big name. Even then the name is removed and sometimes the sponsored name is added.
Look at this video th-cam.com/video/EM5yJcftz74/w-d-xo.html at 5:25 mark, some pros don’t even know what bike they’re riding on. They ride what they’re given even if it doesn’t perform great. They have to make the sponsors happy so that they can have a job.
also pros ride what they want, like pro teams who are not sponsored by ceramicspeed all have ceramicspeed bottom brackets installed and swapped out
Many many of the pros had this on their TT bike at the Tour. Easy to spot with the Danish flag on it.
Pros who are sponsored by Ceramicspeed will use this, not necessarily because it makes them go faster but because their contracts with Ceramicspeed requires they use the product. If you see some using it unbranded then this is a sign that they think it gives a performance benefit and they spent their own lobby on it.
cat 5's will buy no problem. Should've upped the price to 1k
im surprised cranks havent gone this route yet. super record is almost there, nice and sleek
They have. Several boutique brands offer aero chainsets
Dude - you've come so far - 36k subs is amazing - congrats and great content as always!
Have to ask if you could spare a sec - I never did the recall for my SL7 steerer tube. Is it worth it? My LBS didn't seem too worried when the recall was new and I lost track of time. What are your thoughts?
Recalls are always worth doing no matter how small
Is there anything made by ceramic speed that actually increases speed?
I’m asking:
Would BB? Less parasitic wattage consumption?
I like their UFO Drip. Silca SS is probably better for the wallet, but I prefer UFO because it lasts longer and doesn't make a mess during the application.
Probably their bottom bracket and chains are, although expensive, watt savings that can be worth it.
Definitely skeptical about the performance gains with this, then again some people seem to be skeptical of every new piece of bike tech yet we’re currently seeing the fasted Tour de France ever right now so…. 🤷🏻♂️
Very informative video 👍 not sure the average person will get any gains but a Top tear TT rider would 🚴♂️
Thanks so much1!
Do you have access to the new ones for SRAM XPRL? Would love to see a review on those! Thanks!!
I can order but only for specific sales
The aero aspects of this are already discussed in the comments but the bigger question is why wouldn’t people just buy fake ceramicspeed stuff on aliexpress. Even if it is like 30% worse in quality, it costs like 40 bucks from China and you can break it dozens of times until it costs the same as any ceramic speed gear
How about maintenance ? How do you remove the pulley jockey from that big chunk of encasement ?
When you loosen the screws. The whole carbon chunk splits open
I bought one just because is look cool but I don’t really see any improvement in performance
Nothing noticeable? Is it worth it beyond aesthetics?
@@Jacob99174 nothing much tbh I don’t feel like I go faster or saving watts
Pretty sure these "marginal gains" products are produced expressly for the intended use of World Tour level pro teams. They just sell them to the general Fred Public so they can attain "production model" status, which I think all UCI approved gear has to be in order to be raced. In other words, they don't really expect to sell many.
Would I just be better off upgrading my rival rear derailleur to the red etap axs?
hahahah yes this is true
@@GCPerformance18 did you do update? I'm looking at red axs but thought to go ospw to save a few watts, someone said seems to save time up hill but lose time on flat and downhill as aero drag cancels the chain efficiency from it
@@mlee6050 it genuinely doesn't matter, any difference is almost unnoticeable
So let me get this right, they pushed a gigantic pulley wheel set that increased frontal area thus drag where the air is already very disturbed anyway and are now offering a solution to the aero problem they claimed not to have created for $800?
I suppose next they will offer a $500 brush with special applicator to clean it and claim that will save 49 seconds due to trapped grime reducing efficiency.
Then next year introduce a smaller model with better aero.
Year after introduce a larger pulley for lower friction.
Rinse and repeat?
The new Ceramicspeed Aero OSPW: How to spend money to make your bike uglier.
These types of things are the memes of the cycling world
@gcperformance
Hi buddy,
I have a Tarmac SL7 mechanical Ultegra and I am converting it to Di2, I can’t seem to find the battery holder in my pack, I do have the seat post junction box cover and the right spacer without the holes. But looks like I never got the battery holder. Can you please let me know what is part number or a link to the Di2 battery holder? It will be a massive help. Thanks a lot for your videos!
OK, elite level bike components are not cheap. Carbon wheelsets for example.
But this? How much? Pardon?
I’m definitely for ceramic bearings and low viscosity oil…..my Shimano baitcaster fishing reel can spin on freespool for over a minute with Boca ceramic bearings.
Technically an interesting proposition. Financially? 😆
Comparing weight to aero however, I think physics is on the side of aero for marginal gains. I don’t think many Tour bikes are at the UCI limit of 6.8 kg
There are 2 small groups of cyclists who put things like this on their bikes:
1. Pro teams who get paid to expose this crap on their bikes (but wouldn’t do it otherwise)
2. Slightly overweight middle age folks who do a 30 miles ride once a week and barely can hold 17mph behind a group.
naw I run it, im slightly over weight in my 30s but can pull at 25 ;)
@@GCPerformance18 Exception that proves the rule 😄... or maybe you get paid🤔
What kinda real-world tests we perform, because we should probably take everything CeramicSpeed says with a grain of salt.
Are we building a castle with these?
Would I buy that? No. BUT, if I were to spend the money, what would be the better buy from Ceramicspeed, the regular OSP or BB ?
I would say bottom bracket
I am looking at OSPW but Enduro XD 15 bottom bracket, forgot to add as Enduro XD 15 lifetime warranty
Shimanos larger hoods on their latest shifters more than negate any aero gains from this product.
lmaooo true
It’s almost useless for any recreational rider . But you have to buy it . Because there is nothing else to spend money on the bike .
This is not for somebody who compete, this is for mad men
Looks like a daggerboard off a sailboat ... I thought I was on the wrong channel
How do you clean it?
Hose with some pressure
If you know anything about bearings, the abec scale all that ish from our childhood. You should understand that ceramics smoke steel bearings. Its fact. As far as this fairing thing. Im sure they wind tunneled it so its proven.
Faster? Not sure, more expensive? Damn it is!
800 USD for plastik sheet. I bought my Felt f85 for 800usd on sale.
Hi Does Shimano sell a long cage separately for Dura ace 11 speed derailleur, i would like to run 11-32t cassette and the dura-ace is is only good to 30t. Is there someone that sells just the pully assembly for dura-ace up to 32 t
Just use a grx cage
If i didn't know the price, it looks really cheap when i see you handling it. Like a knock off. Sorry, but Ceramic speed are taking the mickey here.
yea I dont think I would buy one, this is expensive, but stil not close to there most expensive product, they have one out for 1900 3d printed titanium, I think they are going after the market that slf ospw already has, and people will buy this, no doubt in my mind... will it make a difference, probably not.
I’m material boy I bought because of look 🤘
lmao there we go, love to hear it
1st!!!
:) thank yo my friend!!!
$800? They can keep it.
This is a piece of sheet. What a sheet. Cycling indystry is a mad house right now.
I've done some really stupid things with my bikes but this is another level of stupidity.
Am not a big fan of this one or others as I feel that they are way too big and expensive with litttttle gains. Not for me .
All I see is an $800 boat anchor that screams I have more money than I have practical sense. Would rather spend that money on other upgrades like a badass paint job or a but load of tires and maintenance products
Having a cover for aerodynamic gains on a rear derailleur like this is kinda stupid. The RD has to move up and down because riders are constantly shifting gears. Maybe in the biggest cog do you get some aero advantage but let's be real if you're in your granny gear in the cassette chances are you are NOT going fast. This is more weight thrown on to the bike and less weight in your bank account.
I'll file this purchase as: "FALSE" & "DUMB"
Grant,thanks for reviewing it,but we all know its just a waste of money!
screw that, i got some cardboard and duct tape in my garage
This thing is the equivalent of the fake performance holes people stick on to their car hoods and fenders. It looks impressive to the handful of people who know absolutely nothing about cars. To anyone with an elementary school diploma or higher, it’s something fun to point and laugh at.
yea but they are buying that stuff similar to this, for aesthetics and also to give there car some character
@@GCPerformance18 It’s definitely a matter of tastes. If I’m doing it for pure aesthetics, I just go traditional OSPW. In my opinion this thing with a giant fairing on it is clunky looking.
It is more e x p e n s i v e
What a rip-off!
lmao there is way more things out there for rip offs as well
easier to 3d print a one dollar fairing for 100 times less
shit doesnt a 3d printer cost like thousands of dollars though?
@@GCPerformance18 used to be like that, now you can get ‘em for like 200! or you can pay to use someone else’s as well
@@GCPerformance18 My kid uses one in his eighth grade classroom. I'll see if he can whip one out for me lol!
Oh it's faster all right...at emptying your wallet!
uhm, no!
800 bucks 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would upgrade a lot of parts to my budget mtb with the price of one of these
alot of people can do alot of things with 800 dollars, the video titlewas not "what can I buy with $800 dollars?*
The only thing that it makes faster is your money disappearing
"Slim numbers" = negligible if any benefit. How long till the overweight dentists and real estate agents riding top of the range Pinarellos start adding this jewellery to their bikes??? Waste of money for 99.9% of riders.
Nope! Buy it if you think it looks sexy. Otherwise pass.
I would love to put a decal on it for advertising lol "GC Perfomrance" painted on it
@@GCPerformance18 do it haha!! Have it engraved if possible
elephant ears
I don't think it looks good.
I think Ceramicspeed are making a mistake by selling it for $800, they should just sell it for a cool $1500, there is still suckers out there that go for these kind of bs products. Every-time I see someone with OSPW stuff on their bikes, I feel sorry for the world. Don't degrade yourself and your channel with stupid products like these, they have never looked cool. If you really need to offload some cash, then buy an $800 bike and give it to someone who needs it. I'm sure the feeling you get from doing that will make you feel faster than with this bs product.
Actually, it doesn't look cool.....at all.
lmao, damn. didnt know your taste of cool was the only taste there was
@@GCPerformance18 hahaha! Na, it just looks that bad. 😜
All good! Keep up the great content.
Girth alert
Many cyclists will buy every useless thing that exists
Another overpriced gimmick by big cycling