My own recommendations are usually: Work on your own fitness -> correctly fitting aero jersey/shorts -> Aero helmet -> Better Groupset - > Wheels - > Frame If you think you are doing everything you can to improve your fitness, you probably aren't and could still do a bit more quality training before getting the wallet out
Greg Speakie i very much agree so. But most age groupers won’t agree with you 😂😂😂 i would rather spend more on gym membership, home gym equipment, pool pass, bike fit, trainerroad app. The problem with adults, they have no patience and wants all the glory and all the shortcuts in the world.
Agreed on everything but a groupset. I guess it depends on your starting point but going from something like 105 to Dura Ace is definitely upside down in the value proposition category.
@@josephlaviolette146 105 is good quality, upgrading isnt very good value. I'd say going from a low end to mid/high and wheelset is more cost effective than upgrading a group set.
I sold my high tech, high priced Tri bike and now ride my mid-range road bike, professionally fitted with aero bars and correct riding ergonomics. Along with better fitness, I am faster and have more money in the bank.
The benefit of tubular tires is that in a large draft legal race such as the tour de france they will stay on the rim if you have a puncture so you can keep on riding and you won't fall and cause a major crash. In triathlon though they make no sense at all.
Well, here OSPW is equated wit CeramicSpeed, but there are other more affordable brands as well. Apart from having these very big pulleys (which might affect shifting performance and the required chain length), it might be worth considering to replace pulleys with sleeve bearings (e.g. Shimano Ultegra) by those with ball bearings but keeping the same size or use moderatley larger pulleys. And don't forget to clean and lube your chain! That's what I'm going to do now - thanks for the reminder!
Mate I don't throw my tubular if I get a puncture I remove the glass or whatever I pump some pit stop to it and use your hand pump up to 120psi and then use it down to the canvas, don't spin that so riders go off tubulars.
Um, you totally forgot to mention how fast my bike LOOKS with an OSPW wrapped in a gold chain. If you can’t be fast, look fast. (Plus, I’m gonna need those 43sec to make up for my 15min T1)
😂, My 2005 Quintana Roo is still working just fine with its Shimano Ultegra group set. Never had a issue and just maintained it… Lots of chains & rings… but nothing last forever… But today I ordered my last Tri-Bike… and will put everything I can on it, for just the PURE vanity…. Being 60 and still racing why not, it’s pure enjoyment now… so if you got the cash go for it, or buy your stuff at Wal-Marr… it does matter just keep racing.
The new MucOff Oversized Pully wheel system looks good and might not be as expensive as the others. Then these days of you buy anything other than 105 or the SRAM equivalent then you're mad and throwing money away. Unless money is no object or you are racing etc. 105 is just as good just heavier and not by much. Part of the reason the pros use Tubalers still is safety as you can keep riding them easier if they flat. This also means that they can keep rolling until a wheel change comes.
Focus on training miles and great nutrition. Loved the video many people go buy a first titanium and carbon bikes but I would say earn it. I got my 1st Canyon CFX SL after 3 years of miles on my MTB. Did my 1st BRM on MTB with narrower tires to reduce drag.
Carbon bottle cages hold the bottles much better, which in IMHO much more important than the weight saving. Everybody who lost his/her hydration in a race after hitting a pothole knows of what talking.
The custom speedbars cost 3000 pounds not including the cost of getting to and from where they do the moulds to make the bars. The bars are estimated to save 10 watts which is at least 300pounds per watt
i thought the main advantage for tubular still claimed by pros was the ability to run flat. so some edge case safety claim. but for normal people who don't have team mechanics, flats are rare enough to still be running inner tubes, and people concerned about that can use tubeless
Except you can buy a dura ace groupset for less than the ultegra retail price. Not a great comparison though, di2 doesn't make you any watts faster and costs far more than a tiagra or 105. Nice though.
If tubular tires are so good why none in mountain biking? Same for oversized pulleys and SRAM/SHIMANO/CAMPY, ETC. Why do not these huge OEM not use the oversized?
Unless you are genuinely competing (at such a level you could win prize money or national slots) there isn't really much point on the 2watt gain here and there that'll cost your monthly mortgage payment
Dura Ace hydraulic brakes are worth every penny, and they look cool. Go with Ultegra Di2 for the rest. Best braking experience and a solid (and cheaper) groupset. CS is an utter scam unless you are shooting for a podium spot at Kona.
I’ve gotten my butt kicked with a guys that have old bikes and I le upgrades. They do help but not much when your fitness is above your bikes inefficiency
@@markthrelfall3577 of course they work. best ones are the transfers that look like flames. im sure im not the only one who can remember seeing vehicles in the 80s with flame transfer stickers over the wheel arches and those plastic aerofoil things on the back. sometimes the placebo effect of an added extra can actually make you go faster in real life
J’ai des moyeux dt180exp ceramic le gain est évident en descente je pense qu’il y a un gain et pas si faible si on compare à des roulements classique,pareil pour mon boîtier de pédalier ceramic je ne voulais pas y croire mais pourtant celà se sent immédiatement le vélo tourne plus rond et globalement à force de tout convertir en ceramic et bien on sent réellement un vélo qui semble plus efficace,une plus grande qualité. Maintenant on est très loin de ce que peut apporter des pneus comme des turbocotton montés en latex où des go5000str qui sont des petites merveilles de rendement !
Depends on how you set it up. You can change shifting speed, number of gears shifted and shifting placement. These are things which can make a small difference when racing.
Tubulars are used for safety mainly. They are more likely to stay on the rim when flat than tubless or clinchers thus preventing bad crashes. Hence the pro use. How could you not know that?
It stricly calculating, it's been proven that it would be 1.4W, if you remove any gadget from the front of the bike, easy it would be the same amount. It costs nothing!.
I've often thought the bike leg should be removed from triathlons. Not only is the bike responsible for countless injuries and deaths but people can buy their speed. On the other hand the bike leg has probably kept the sport alive. It's the only part with garish amounts of money for sponsorship. Is it true now though. Each race costs hundreds of dollars and the associated expenses bring the total price of a weekend well over a thousand dollars. There is probably a niche out there without the bike that could become much more popular than the current triathlons.
And I've got a pair of carbon fiber bottlecages from China with aluminum bolts holding them in place. 16 grams per cage and 1 gram for each bolt. They are quite good too!
Are there any upgrades we missed? Let us know 🚴♀️
Switching from a regular road bike to an aero road bike.
Custom aero bars like the ones from speedbar
My own recommendations are usually:
Work on your own fitness -> correctly fitting aero jersey/shorts -> Aero helmet -> Better Groupset - > Wheels - > Frame
If you think you are doing everything you can to improve your fitness, you probably aren't and could still do a bit more quality training before getting the wallet out
Greg Speakie i very much agree so. But most age groupers won’t agree with you 😂😂😂 i would rather spend more on gym membership, home gym equipment, pool pass, bike fit, trainerroad app.
The problem with adults, they have no patience and wants all the glory and all the shortcuts in the world.
Agreed on everything but a groupset. I guess it depends on your starting point but going from something like 105 to Dura Ace is definitely upside down in the value proposition category.
@@josephlaviolette146 105 is good quality, upgrading isnt very good value. I'd say going from a low end to mid/high and wheelset is more cost effective than upgrading a group set.
Power meter first and then wheelset
Spot-on. I would maybe add "work on your flexibility/positioning"
I can save all that weight by sitting on the toilet for an extra 10 minutes before going fo a ride 😅
Hilarious!!!!!!
We can save weight and money by not eating!!!
I modified a $5 plastic bottle cage and got it under 30 grams just to prove I could. Looks great and way cheaper than carbon.
Tubeless and clincher tyres might be faster, but there is nothing that beats the feeling of a high pressure tubular tyre in my opinion
Squanchy i’d rather go tubeless with less pinch flat
I have to admit, there is something incredibly nice about them :)
Not even that when you flat a tubeless you don't know where you are going to end up when it peels off the rim.
Regarding oversized pully wheels you're robed even more as the drag penalty for it is around 2-3w so they don't save anything.
I sold my high tech, high priced Tri bike and now ride my mid-range road bike, professionally fitted with aero bars and correct riding ergonomics. Along with better fitness, I am faster and have more money in the bank.
The benefit of tubular tires is that in a large draft legal race such as the tour de france they will stay on the rim if you have a puncture so you can keep on riding and you won't fall and cause a major crash. In triathlon though they make no sense at all.
Absolutely. They do make sense in the pro cycling ranks, not so much in tri
Well, here OSPW is equated wit CeramicSpeed, but there are other more affordable brands as well. Apart from having these very big pulleys (which might affect shifting performance and the required chain length), it might be worth considering to replace pulleys with sleeve bearings (e.g. Shimano Ultegra) by those with ball bearings but keeping the same size or use moderatley larger pulleys.
And don't forget to clean and lube your chain! That's what I'm going to do now - thanks for the reminder!
I'm starting to have this in my recommended more than GCN. You guys work to hard.
I just buy them second hand
Mate I don't throw my tubular if I get a puncture I remove the glass or whatever I pump some pit stop to it and use your hand pump up to 120psi and then use it down to the canvas, don't spin that so riders go off tubulars.
Um, you totally forgot to mention how fast my bike LOOKS with an OSPW wrapped in a gold chain. If you can’t be fast, look fast. (Plus, I’m gonna need those 43sec to make up for my 15min T1)
😂, My 2005 Quintana Roo is still working just fine with its Shimano Ultegra group set. Never had a issue and just maintained it…
Lots of chains & rings… but nothing last forever… But today I ordered my last Tri-Bike… and will put everything I can on it, for just the PURE vanity…. Being 60 and still racing why not, it’s pure enjoyment now… so if you got the cash go for it, or buy your stuff at Wal-Marr… it does matter just keep racing.
Those upgrades are usually for aesthetics reasons especiall for the regular riders. That's why I put them on.
The new MucOff Oversized Pully wheel system looks good and might not be as expensive as the others. Then these days of you buy anything other than 105 or the SRAM equivalent then you're mad and throwing money away. Unless money is no object or you are racing etc. 105 is just as good just heavier and not by much.
Part of the reason the pros use Tubalers still is safety as you can keep riding them easier if they flat. This also means that they can keep rolling until a wheel change comes.
What about those carbon fiber shoe inserts for cycling shoes I keep getting ads for? 🤦♂️
Focus on training miles and great nutrition.
Loved the video many people go buy a first titanium and carbon bikes but I would say earn it.
I got my 1st Canyon CFX SL after 3 years of miles on my MTB. Did my 1st BRM on MTB with narrower tires to reduce drag.
Carbon bottle cages hold the bottles much better, which in IMHO much more important than the weight saving. Everybody who lost his/her hydration in a race after hitting a pothole knows of what talking.
Does the use of ospw can improve cycling efficiency ?
The custom speedbars cost 3000 pounds not including the cost of getting to and from where they do the moulds to make the bars. The bars are estimated to save 10 watts which is at least 300pounds per watt
Tubular wheelset is around 200-300 grams lighter then the same deep section wheelset dedicated for clincher and tubules tires.
Those oversized jockey wheels are just bling. Rule #5 HTFU
What are your thoughts on Q rings?
Hahaha I think I ticked a few too many boxes on this one. I think there are much worse things to waste money on than bike parts though :)
You're right :)
Dude, you totally forgot the carbon fiber water bottle cage 🙄... 😎🤓😀 love the show, keep up the great work 🤘.
Would be nice to write down somewhere in the screen all the prices you mention also in €, for example.
Couldn't agree more some of it isn't worth the money you pay for it.
i thought the main advantage for tubular still claimed by pros was the ability to run flat. so some edge case safety claim. but for normal people who don't have team mechanics, flats are rare enough to still be running inner tubes, and people concerned about that can use tubeless
You're absolutely right. Which is why they make sense for pro cycling, but far less sense for triathlon
Don't buy bike upgrades, instead bike up grades 😁🌞 Tubular race wheels are the exceptions on this list in my opinion... 😁
Except you can buy a dura ace groupset for less than the ultegra retail price. Not a great comparison though, di2 doesn't make you any watts faster and costs far more than a tiagra or 105. Nice though.
If tubular tires are so good why none in mountain biking? Same for oversized pulleys and SRAM/SHIMANO/CAMPY, ETC. Why do not these huge OEM not use the oversized?
The ospw system also makes your shifting wors
Love this, really useful, independent advice
Unless you are genuinely competing (at such a level you could win prize money or national slots) there isn't really much point on the 2watt gain here and there that'll cost your monthly mortgage payment
Dura Ace hydraulic brakes are worth every penny, and they look cool. Go with Ultegra Di2 for the rest. Best braking experience and a solid (and cheaper) groupset.
CS is an utter scam unless you are shooting for a podium spot at Kona.
For your US viewers It would be nice if you would give the equivalent cost in dollars too.
I’ve gotten my butt kicked with a guys that have old bikes and I le upgrades. They do help but not much when your fitness is above your bikes inefficiency
what about those go-faster transfer stickers to make your look fast
ooof but they work don't they??!
@@markthrelfall3577 of course they work. best ones are the transfers that look like flames. im sure im not the only one who can remember seeing vehicles in the 80s with flame transfer stickers over the wheel arches and those plastic aerofoil things on the back.
sometimes the placebo effect of an added extra can actually make you go faster in real life
J’ai des moyeux dt180exp ceramic le gain est évident en descente je pense qu’il y a un gain et pas si faible si on compare à des roulements classique,pareil pour mon boîtier de pédalier ceramic je ne voulais pas y croire mais pourtant celà se sent immédiatement le vélo tourne plus rond et globalement à force de tout convertir en ceramic et bien on sent réellement un vélo qui semble plus efficace,une plus grande qualité. Maintenant on est très loin de ce que peut apporter des pneus comme des turbocotton montés en latex où des go5000str qui sont des petites merveilles de rendement !
When you have all these things. ...
Haha :)
You're better off not eating for a month. You save the money on food and you better your weight to power!
Yeh 1 less pastie or packet of crisps and bingo.😷
Hacks are much better than expensive upgrades
Never understood why Shimano or SRAM don't offer oversized as an option at source. Ceramic speed are a rip off.
Probably because they think it’s a gimmick and isn’t actually faster
What about wireless shifting! Costs a lot and won't make you any faster.
Depends on how you set it up. You can change shifting speed, number of gears shifted and shifting placement. These are things which can make a small difference when racing.
@@sfetriathlon2432 Maybe, but those gains are extremely marginal.
Kristian Holmgaard agreed. TBH, I’m not sure wireless offers much over standard electronic; but I still want it! 😉
@@sfetriathlon2432 Me too! But im not paying for it;)
Tubulars are used for safety mainly. They are more likely to stay on the rim when flat than tubless or clinchers thus preventing bad crashes. Hence the pro use. How could you not know that?
It stricly calculating, it's been proven that it would be 1.4W, if you remove any gadget from the front of the bike, easy it would be the same amount. It costs nothing!.
Oversized pulleys is a complete ripoff.
I've often thought the bike leg should be removed from triathlons. Not only is the bike responsible for countless injuries and deaths but people can buy their speed. On the other hand the bike leg has probably kept the sport alive. It's the only part with garish amounts of money for sponsorship. Is it true now though. Each race costs hundreds of dollars and the associated expenses bring the total price of a weekend well over a thousand dollars. There is probably a niche out there without the bike that could become much more popular than the current triathlons.
Bro, im riding an 18€ china full carbon saddle. 103g.
Boom! Fair play
And I've got a pair of carbon fiber bottlecages from China with aluminum bolts holding them in place. 16 grams per cage and 1 gram for each bolt. They are quite good too!
Biking can be so expensive....wow...
Everything's expensive in this day and age 😭😭😭
As an American, hearing "pound" makes me think of mass, not money - which was confusing a number of times in this video, for instance 3:26
Start with Claris then go to 105~Dura Ace
Seems like a good way to start Road bikes
Funny
Is the bike made in China?
Just pedal harder
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First 💪🏻