How to warm up a 2 stroke dirt bike motor and not foul your plug

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  • If you are having problems with fouling spark plugs on your 2 stroke, you need to watch this video. We certainly need to make sure that your bike/carb/EFI is working properly and delivering the correct amount of fuel into the motor. That is obvisouly very important. But even with a tuned carb or EFI system, many people create problems for themselves by letting the bike idle too long as they would a 4 stroke motor. Lets take a look here!
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  • @DirtBikeChannel
    @DirtBikeChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Leave a comment and SMASH the thumbs up button to help TH-cam to show this to more people! Thanks so much everyone!

    • @chihuahuaverde425
      @chihuahuaverde425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will do for you buddy!

    • @intoxicch5352
      @intoxicch5352 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! 😆
      @DirtBikeChannel raw footage of the symphony? 😁

    • @hig4s
      @hig4s หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not correct for oil injected TPI bikes.

  • @robertmcghee3646
    @robertmcghee3646 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is the same way I would warm up my carb 2 strokes but I was told by the dealer warming up a TPI bike is different/let it idle and also not to choke it for very long (because of it being very lean).

  • @danpluso
    @danpluso ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I agree for premix but for TPI the oil pump controls how much oil flows into the throttle body. So the more you rev it, the more oil you are putting into the system. The TPI manuals say to not touch the throttle and that's what I do. I idle for about 5-10 minutes (depending on ambient temp) until the radiators get warm and I never touch the throttle. I have never fouled a plug, have never gummed up anything, and have never had silencer spooge either. If people are fouling their TPI, I think there are bigger issues at play. Could be the crank-case sensor, ECU, or maybe even the oil pump causing excessive oil issues.

  • @walkerskii
    @walkerskii ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Helpful useful info! I have a 1978 RM125 & a 1989 Honda CR250R. You motivated me to practice balance also it's great at the end, where you share how the video didn't go as planned.

  • @mikieemiike3979
    @mikieemiike3979 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Don't sacrifice the piston rings for the spark plug. Let it idle until it's warm and clean your spark plug.

    • @carlspehar6822
      @carlspehar6822 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I wore out the rings on my cr500 (on the ports side) by blipping the throttle too much at warm up. The reality is to get your jetting and air/fuel screw set up correctly!

  • @ChrisMayo-ig2yt
    @ChrisMayo-ig2yt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great info Kyle. I've been warming my 2 strokes up this way for a while and never have to worry about fouled plugs and excess goo from the silencer.

  • @Grazzo77
    @Grazzo77 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been doing this for a while too, good way to warm up you and the bike. Thanks as always for your insight.

  • @DuhYaThink
    @DuhYaThink ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just read the owner’s manual

  • @TheBarnz91
    @TheBarnz91 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love my 300 exc! Akropovic end can sounds incredible!! Great work Kyle

  • @rileywiddison2654
    @rileywiddison2654 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some of these people have no idea what they’re talking about. Keep it up Kyle!! Great video

  • @thanepetroff4414
    @thanepetroff4414 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never owned a TPI but on carbureted bikes the pilot jet affects idle to 1/8 throttle if you have the proper pilot jet you can idle the bike all day long and not fowl plugs. I run redline oil in a 250 two stroke and the power valves do not gum up and the the top of the piston does not have carbon build up even after two or three years of riding without a rebuild. The needle affects mid RPM range and the main jet affects middle to wide open rpm. Learn to adjust your carburetor. Learn to read your spark plug. A properly tuned bike will be a pleasure and a blessing to ride. An improperly tuned bike will ruin your day. Let the engine idle
    While putting on your gear. When the cylinder is warm to the touch then you can start giving it some throttle.
    Put around for a couple of minutes and when the cylinder temp come up the bike will clean up and stop blubbering then you can start giving it more gas and putting more of a load on it. Listen and feel your bike it will tell you when its ready for wide open throttle. Don't revv your engine on a cold cylinder. The piston will change shape as it warms up. When it's cold it is not perfectly shaped to the cylinder and you will have high and low spots on the piston potentially causing premature wear and scuffing. It needs to be hot before you can go wide open throttle. Another tip... Grease your air cleaner lip for better sealing. It makes a difference.

  • @ryanemmerson3642
    @ryanemmerson3642 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always, good stuff Kyle. Been watching sense 2017!! 😎

  • @matthewmcallister8845
    @matthewmcallister8845 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. What's your opinion on the Beta 300RR Race Edition?

  • @Mostviews111
    @Mostviews111 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This is exactly how cold seizures happen. If you've ever rode a skidoo snowmobile during their warm up you cannot touch the throttle until it is up to operating temp. DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE!

    • @nathanielostrowski2437
      @nathanielostrowski2437 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's also at a way colder range bud. Those operate at a colder operating temp as well.

    • @bilboswaggens2975
      @bilboswaggens2975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cold seizing doesn’t happen on bikes very often most of the time it just damages the cylinder wall, which if bad enough you’re right can cause a seizure. I have 3 Mach z 800s lol I Know EXACTLY what you mean about letting them idle to temp.

    • @Mostviews111
      @Mostviews111 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanielostrowski2437 you're missing the point

    • @funserious2632
      @funserious2632 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      people act as giving any gas when cold destroys the engine immediatly... some of my riding buddys don't warm up the bike at all and just go out hammering them straight away and the engines still last a long time...

    • @Mostviews111
      @Mostviews111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nathanielostrowski2437 cold seizures can happen at any temp

  • @tylerlabelle1749
    @tylerlabelle1749 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Kyle these new tpi bikes are made to idle. I have 100+ hours on a spark plug with no issues. You have to start and not touch the throttle tube. if you touch the throttle its will add oil and mess up the warm up cycle built into the ECU. I promise you are doing it wrong.

    • @MR.TOYBOX
      @MR.TOYBOX ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TPI bikes are old and a big failure. So KTM kicked it to the curb and replaced it with TBI. So it is now time for you to go to your nearest KTM dealer and Trade the TPI in for a TBI bike.

    • @Fireextinguisher945
      @Fireextinguisher945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MR.TOYBOX I just had a 23 tbi and they foul plugs constantly as well. It’s no better. I sold it with 8 hours and it wouldn’t even start after the dealership had it for a week. Broken garbage

    • @MR.TOYBOX
      @MR.TOYBOX ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fireextinguisher945 Sucks to be you . Mine is perfect. Fires up immediately every time.

    • @Fireextinguisher945
      @Fireextinguisher945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MR.TOYBOX ok

    • @MR.TOYBOX
      @MR.TOYBOX ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fireextinguisher945 not to mention. Everyone else who had the same issue put a different number plug in it. Problem solved.
      You went the extreme route.
      Spark plugs are cheap dog!

  • @RobboRobinson
    @RobboRobinson ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Agreed fire up on choke as recommended and then knock choke off at the point it will idle without it. Usually less than a minute. A couple of more minutes idling and then low throttle riding till the rads are hot. One thing to keep in mind is outside temperature. If it’s below 5 Celsius slow cruising type riding can slow the warm up process quite dramatically with cold air going through the rads. So slow manoeuvring with the engine getting some small amounts of load and minimal air flow works best. I did some tests on engine temperature a couple of years ago with diagnostics connected on my TPi. With the outside temp being 5 Celsius I got my bike to operating temp 91 Celsius when the fan kicked in. I then road for half a mile going through the gears up to 50mph watching the engine temp on the phone located on the handlebars. The engine temp dropped 28 degrees taking it back into the semi warm status. I then covered the left side rad with a piece of cardboard to reduce air flow on one side. The result being a better continued operating temperature during those longer periods of fast riding. In the slow stuff the fan kicked in and did it’s job keeping the engine in the sweet spot.
    Keeping the engine coolant temperature in the zone near to fan operation is where the engine is most efficient and engine wear/friction is at a minimum with a good burn at the plug.
    Also warm up can be longer if the thermostat has been deleted. Always wise to run a thermostat in winter if road riding or fast flowing trails.
    Another thing these new TBi bikes being premix and will oil up if idling a long time. The older TPi not as much.
    Common sense prevailing people will do there own thing. Some just don’t understand or appreciate what is required to keep a bike at its best. The tales of woe I’ve seen with engine failure and it’s all been preventable.
    Good work Kyle 👍🏻

    • @anthonygrijalva8821
      @anthonygrijalva8821 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree with you Robbo, I do run without a thermo on my 300 but I keep rad blocked off and let fan coolr down...even with rad blocked I noticed it dropping 30-40° on faster trails.

    • @ShumilinYaroslav
      @ShumilinYaroslav ปีที่แล้ว

      Great info! Would be great to know how hotter plug affect coolant temp when cold outside.

  • @marco21falcon
    @marco21falcon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently put beautiful orange exhaust wrap on my 2023 250xcw. I quieted down the exhast slap. Plus it helps maintain heat in the exhaust i get very little spooge out the back. Long term.... don't know yet. But i love the look and sound

    • @inevespace
      @inevespace ปีที่แล้ว

      I wanted to test this idea, but don't own 2t recently. How much is quietening?

  • @bcvisions7036
    @bcvisions7036 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was good. Fouled two plugs on the same bike, ill try this method. Thank you.

  • @simonbrereton8643
    @simonbrereton8643 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kyle can you please do a video of you taking all the pipes of all your bikes and shining a torch at the pistons this will prove your method of warming up a 2 stroke will not damage it or not.

    • @inevespace
      @inevespace ปีที่แล้ว +1

      worth only after 50mh or more. But at that point he already about to sell bikes.

  • @andrubackos1861
    @andrubackos1861 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Let it idle for 5 seconds then hold it on the rev limiter for 30 seconds. Not only does it warm right up but it lets everyone know to stop talking and start riding like men.

  • @SPCxRecon
    @SPCxRecon ปีที่แล้ว

    What oil do you currently run?

  • @TRocksGarage777
    @TRocksGarage777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, love the balancing act! 😃

  • @tudorcotoi7011
    @tudorcotoi7011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tyre pressure, chain tension, gear up and then kick it to life. Choke up (yes I still ride with a carb, it’s a 01 YZ250), let it settle down, choke back down, give little braps, then pull away slowly, not going crazy with the revs for a while. Or at least until the rads are nice and warm.
    Am I missing something ?

  • @HighSpeedTV
    @HighSpeedTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im sorry DBC but I took this advice with my 150 XC-W and immediately fouled a plug. I would highly recommend allowing your engine to warm up at idle on TPI's.. (at least with the small bores)

  • @woodaywoodlo9752
    @woodaywoodlo9752 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    but kyle the tpi manual says to let it idle to operating temp

    • @DirtBikeChannel
      @DirtBikeChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and I don't care what they say. You will run into problems if you do that :). Watch the video again haha

    • @StabEDealin
      @StabEDealin ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah…I’ve been following the TPI manual for a year now. No issues at all. I think the problems come on when mods are made. Also, I spoke with a tech and he says the cold maps are adding more fuel until warm, so you’d be compounding the issues of unburnt fuel/oil.
      Best thing to do is to just go ride and always have extra plugs, can’t tell you how many other people I’ve saved. Merry Christmas.

    • @woodaywoodlo9752
      @woodaywoodlo9752 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have 50 hours on my 2022 250xc and I have let it idle until the rads are hot. No issues that's how my 2 buddy's do it to together we have 100s of hours

    • @donnelly1979
      @donnelly1979 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DirtBikeChannel 150 hours on the plug and ONLY used the tpi manual and the cold start knob to raise the idle when cold.....TPI guys will cold seize if they follow this advice. Period and I for one am tired of hearing all the 10-20 hour cold seizure people complain about the crappy TPI and the carb guys jumping on the band wagon. I have followed you for years and I have to say this is the only advice that I think you are 100% wrong on. For the record that is pretty dang good but dude really. Let the cold TPI bikes run on the cold start till they surge and then idle till warm and then ride soft till they clear out and then ride it like you stole it!. Carbed bikes......this video works for.

    • @brianjones7681
      @brianjones7681 ปีที่แล้ว

      This bike isn't a TPI

  • @nojfrom.baya.
    @nojfrom.baya. ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a new 2023 ktm 125 I have a problem and 4 spark plug has blown I don't understand why? and the mix is ​​well done

  • @hardendurobosnia17
    @hardendurobosnia17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the mixture for tbi? 60/1 ?

  • @rustyshackleford2608
    @rustyshackleford2608 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I've never fouled a plug either (Knock on wood).

  • @ragoff
    @ragoff ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bike needs to be minimum 80 degrees before giving any throttle. Ride it slow to moderate from min 80-110, until reaches 110-115. Then get on the pipe to clean it out. Should be at 140 or so at that point. Now ride. That’s my procedure.

  • @DC8223
    @DC8223 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't wait to hear about that 125 xc! 🤩

    • @DirtBikeChannel
      @DirtBikeChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's a ripper!

    • @chihuahuaverde425
      @chihuahuaverde425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did a ride on it a couple of days ago and did a video. Looks like a great bike.

    • @DC8223
      @DC8223 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chihuahuaverde425 I'll check it out, I must've missed it. Thanks 🤙🏼

  • @Briank-ef5iq
    @Briank-ef5iq ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A lot of people say for tpi let them idle until radiators are hot to touch ! I let my tpi idle for 5-7 min before riding, my Carbed bike I just jump on ride it easy for few min then rip it!

    • @MrAndyloz
      @MrAndyloz ปีที่แล้ว

      yes had the same info, now im confused

    • @Briank-ef5iq
      @Briank-ef5iq ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrAndyloz my tpi has 40 hours doing same warmup process idle for 5-7 minutes so far so good ! I’m sticking with it lol

    • @robertmcghee3646
      @robertmcghee3646 ปีที่แล้ว

      same, dealer told me the same thing and to not choke it for very long

  • @user-wz4ei2iu6w
    @user-wz4ei2iu6w ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent information.

  • @dans8149
    @dans8149 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:45 Just a heads up when tire companies put that yellow circle that is where they recommend you put the valve stem for air. You don't have to but that's what that yellow circle is..

    • @gpaull2
      @gpaull2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤔 The yellow dot is the lightest spot, which is supposed to go close to the rim lock…the heaviest spot. On a bike with no rim lock the valve stem would be the heaviest spot though.

  • @TjMills1972
    @TjMills1972 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok I’ve got a question, I’ve been watching you for a few years now. I took your videos into my decision to purchase a 2022 Husqvarna TE300i. All the people I see riding them and all the people on here have said you have to let a TPI idle till it warms up on the left radiator, then shut it off, and restart it and that’s the proper way to warm up a tpi. Before I knew that I fouled a couple of plugs, but since I’ve been letting it idle this way till it warms up, I’ve not fouled one. So I guess I’m wondering why you don’t do this to your tpi bikes?

    • @two2zero2
      @two2zero2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, don't do this on a TPI bike. Improper warm up procedure is the main cause for most premature TPI engine problems.

  • @billymadison8036
    @billymadison8036 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 2002 kdx 200 will idle all day without fouling the plug because it's jetted and tuned right. I run 40:1 with 93 octane and either redline or dominator oil

  • @bilboswaggens2975
    @bilboswaggens2975 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    As a mechanic, this is a certified way to blow a tpi up. Those bikes take a super long time to warm up. Its important to let them idle to temp. Any ktm mechanic will tell you that. If you're fouling at idle you're running too rich or too much oil. I've seen so many hairline cracked cylinder walls because people don't let their bike warm up before revving it. I live in michigan where it gets much coldr and people ride in snow, so I see it all the time. Over time it'll lead to complete loss of compression. Very bad advice

    • @nevadahardenduro
      @nevadahardenduro ปีที่แล้ว +26

      You would think he would know better after “12 years” into riding dirt bikes 😂. Sure way to blow a TPI. Completely ignoring the manufacturers procedures…..but what do they know…. Kyle you really blew it on this one man. All the best.

    • @simonbrereton8643
      @simonbrereton8643 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I love this dude’s channel but sometimes his advice is questionable plus he doesn’t own his bikes long enough to even see the damage it causes🫣

    • @littlewill8238
      @littlewill8238 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It’s tbi

    • @morley3810
      @morley3810 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Seems to be on-brand for KTM to build something that has such specific procedures - Princess bikes lol. If that little warm up procedure Kyle did in the video is a "sure way" to blow up a KTM, that indicates a severe engineering issue.

    • @nicovanduin1553
      @nicovanduin1553 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Dude you’re exagerating. Don’t act like they’re space shuttles or something. As long as you don’t imediately rip the shit out of it after you hop on and take is easy for the first 5-10 minutes you’ll be complety fine

  • @Jack-sx4ef
    @Jack-sx4ef 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What GoPro helmet mount is that?

  • @Roby3269
    @Roby3269 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tip

  • @lagace6662
    @lagace6662 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh i have a 250sx 2023 and i have no idea how to warm it up some say to rev it, others say to not touch the throttle at all before the rad is hot i have no clue anymore

  • @stevenllewellyn8906
    @stevenllewellyn8906 ปีที่แล้ว

    My yz250 I start it and don’t rip on it till it’s ready. My 22’ te300i tpi I let it warm up on the stand to atleast 100 degrees and then ride it. Never fouled a plug or had any issues with a lot of hours on it. BUT I’ve seen and heard of plenty with doing how you’re showing to do it. To each their own. But you may want to add in “IMO”

  • @MrAndyloz
    @MrAndyloz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi , what about a tpi, ive been told to let it totally warm up first

    • @DirtBikeChannel
      @DirtBikeChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This applies to TPI. Watch again :). This is warming it up :). DO. NOT. LET. IT. IDLE for more than 60 seconds. It won't warm up fast enough and you'll fill the power valve, and silencer with goo (unburnt oil). You are also at risk of fouling a plug even with a TPI...

    • @onthethrottle7104
      @onthethrottle7104 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DirtBikeChannel Try this...TPI, start and let idle for a few about 30 sec to 1 min with choke on (high idle), then off high idle, then barely give it gas, like barely. Back and forth with idle and barely any gas for about three min. You can go ride after 5 min but very low RPM for first 8-10 min. After that get in it but not crazy - after about 18 min. BRAAAP!!!!!! all day long. Have multiple TPI's, done multiple top ends, have ZERO issues on any of my top ends, have NEVER fouled a plug. I rebuild my top ends at 140 to 160 hours on TPI and have ZERO issues... I only use Motorex 2 stroke oil and 91 octane fuel with a little octane boost in the fuel tank. My cylinders look like they have 10 hours on them. My spark plugs look absolutely perfect.

  • @pickleskingdom6862
    @pickleskingdom6862 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    turn it on, let it idle while u put ur helmet goggles and gloves on (like 2 - 3 mins) then ride it easy for like 5 mins then ur good

  • @footit
    @footit ปีที่แล้ว

    After get a low compression tsp head and letting the bike idle until 50 C the plug fouled after 30hrs.
    Im gonna try your way Kyle.

  • @user-hg9go5gx1s
    @user-hg9go5gx1s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i dont understand, first you said it adds oil when idling so dont add throttle then you specifically add throttle which adds more oil?

  • @MuddyTubMedia
    @MuddyTubMedia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a 2015 YZ250 that I bought new in 2015. And it WOULD NOT run with yamalube premix. It fouled a plug every ride, no matter what I did. Switched to Maxima Castor 927 and never fouled another plug in 4 years of ownership. Still puzzles me to this day

    • @DirtBikeChannel
      @DirtBikeChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It wasn't the oil. Too much fuel going through it and the plug couldn't get hot enough to burn properly. Mystery solved. If it was leaned out (less fuel/oil going through the carb) and warmed up more quickly like I'm talking about in this video, you'd not be fouling plugs.

    • @MuddyTubMedia
      @MuddyTubMedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DirtBikeChannel I did rejet it, but I will admit, I probably didn’t warm it up how I should have when I first got it. It was my 2 stroke. I just find it odd that a different oil eliminated the problem. Anyway, great video. Very useful information

  • @rickkramer1152
    @rickkramer1152 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄

  • @justinnichols650
    @justinnichols650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know how TBI's and TPI's differ as far as the choke or "cold start" switch procedure from manufacturer? I have been warming up my TPI's by pulling the "choke" out and letting it "high idle" for 3-5 minutes on cold mornings, less on warm days. Apparently this longer idle time gives the computer time to gather data about the specific riding conditions you are in at the moment (ambient temperature, elevation, engine temperature, etc.) And it will not foul because it is a "high idle" AND it won't seize because the computer is giving the cylinder enough oil because it knows. Then I do what Kyle suggests which is some balance drills with some 1/4-1/2 throttle blips every once in a while. Then when I take off I do 2 minutes of moderate riding until I feel like it is warmed up. Carbed bikes need a method more similar to what DBC video explained. Start it with choke, let it high idle until it starts to bog or until it will idle ok with choke off, turn choke off, let it idle for a 30 seconds or so, then start lightly blipping if it starts to rough idle (every bike behaves a little differently). I did this with my 2007 CR250 as well as my 2012 250XC, never fouled plugs or blew top ends and cylinders were always in immaculate condition when doing top ends. Kyle is 100% right that letting a carbed bike or incorrectly adjusted FI bike low idle for too long can easily foul a plug. I see it happen to my friends all the time. Long story short, listen to your 2 stroke, it will tell you what it is doing. But I would air on the side of longer warm up process for sure. My buddy blew his 2018 TX300 the other day because he warmed it up for only 2 minutes and then put it under full load climbing a long sandy hill.

  • @RealSuburbanCowboy
    @RealSuburbanCowboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I start my 4 stroke, and after I am sure it isn't going to die, I ride away slowly (no load) until it warms up, then let it rip.

  • @joecarlino7870
    @joecarlino7870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idle for 2 mins then low throttle 2nd gear slow speed on flat surface until warmed up.

  • @davidanderson2393
    @davidanderson2393 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ran into a couple gentlemen out at a trail riding area, one of them was just new to getting into trail riding after a long break(20 years) from riding motorcycles. New Husky 300, gets it started and lets it idle while getting dressed, it eventually dies. He and his buddy are going thru the motions trying to get it to fire with no luck, I go over and introduce myself and ask if they need any tools. I inquire if they have a spare plug because it is most likely fouled, he says it should be fine because it's fuel injected. Yada yada yada finally changes plug and I take them out to show them 30+ miles of trail system, good day.

  • @MynhardtLeRoux
    @MynhardtLeRoux หลายเดือนก่อน

    I start mine with the choke on and idle for a few minutes and dont touch the throttle,but stil faul the plug

  • @Dat_Sun
    @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peel the white sticker off the right side upper fork. See if it's all scratched up under the sticker like mine was.

  • @Utahforrest
    @Utahforrest ปีที่แล้ว

    Brand new 2023 KTM XC-W 300 TPI sitting in my garage and I’m finding polar opposite opinions on what to do for a cold start. So far guys are doing opposite things and saying they haven’t fouled a plug. I should be good!

  • @jarredtremain4644
    @jarredtremain4644 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers mate. I do it the same. All my mates on new tpi start up and leave idling on side stand. I was fouling heaps of plugs when at low rpm on my 2018 te300, found out don't run castor based oil in mix unless going hard. Gone to motorex and haven't fouled one since. Avagud1

  • @WildAzzRacing
    @WildAzzRacing ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fouling a plug has nothing to do with idling. It is about improper jetting, bad mechanical condition, improper heat range plug, and/or leaving the choke on too long. I have never fouled a plug letting my old carburetor equipped 2T's idle to warm up. That includes old KDX's, GasGas', and even my Yamaha RD's from the 70's. Also, I don't ever use special plugs. Good old NGK BR8ES plugs do the job and I change them out once a year only because I feel I'm supposed to.

    • @inevespace
      @inevespace ปีที่แล้ว

      Why old 2t recommended to warm up with periodical reving? I thought it is because of "oil starvation" on idle and you add "healthy" amount by opening throttle. Not related with plug. But seems some people think this method was to prevent plug foul.

    • @bilboswaggens2975
      @bilboswaggens2975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@inevespace people rev carbed 2 strokes because they didn’t know how to tune a carb. A properly tuned one will idle to temp perfectly.

    • @inevespace
      @inevespace ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bilboswaggens2975 I'm talking about engines which idle perfectly. It is question of lubrication, not carb setup. Same thing that it was not recommended in manuals to do engine breaking on downhills.

    • @WildAzzRacing
      @WildAzzRacing ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inevespace Your oil is in your fuel so you're always getting it if the engine is running. Plus, your engine is under no load at idle so no need for extra oil.

    • @inevespace
      @inevespace ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WildAzzRacing Yes, and amount of oil depends on your throttle position. At closed throttle it is so small that it was considered as regime of "oil starvation". In manuals they recommend blip throttle periodically to add oil. Then oil need some time to be washed away, so you are good for 10s

  • @noControl556
    @noControl556 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1) choke bike. 2) Start bike. 3) unchoke bike. 4) ride bike slow till it stops gurgling. 5) ride bike fast.
    I haven't heard of anyone fouling plugs on mondernish two strokes, but agree it doesn't do any good to let it sit idling, it's not going to get warmed up enough just sitting there at idle so why waste that precious premix?

  • @rtillerypowersports
    @rtillerypowersports ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a 25 year mechanic. I agree with his warm-up procedure. The key that he says multiple times is not to load the engine heavily.

    • @hig4s
      @hig4s หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got my master motorcycle mechanics cert 36 years ago, and these new fuel injected bikes are different than carbed bikes, especially with oil injection.

  • @cody-gaming7593
    @cody-gaming7593 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a Yamaha blaster 200 never fouled the plug and I’ve left it idle just like that

  • @hosac99
    @hosac99 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it will not foul a plug if it idles of course if the air and fuel mixture is set up correctly! read a manual please

  • @vwsandvettes3253
    @vwsandvettes3253 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know what the other Katoom's have for premix ratio, but my 300sx calls for 60:1. It is hard for me to imagine that low of a gas:oil ratio fouling plugs, but I admit I don't know much about the new e-start fuel injected KTM 2 stroke machines.
    I also have a YZ250 with less than one hour on the bike that Yamaha calls for a 15:1 break in premix ratio. That thing runs like crap and fouls plugs like a mother, which is not hard to imagine why. Once the YZ hits 1 hour I'm considering it broke in and will be switching to a 30:1 ratio. I'll still have to worry about fouling plugs but hopefully it'll be somewhat better at least.

  • @neumann534
    @neumann534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i let it idle get warm than ride carefully for the first 5 min, in 350 hrs, never fouled a plug..

  • @gilbertmagpayo
    @gilbertmagpayo ปีที่แล้ว

    Straight from the KTM manual of a 2023 125XC TBI - "always run the engine warm at low speed ".
    Never said anything about idling.

    • @nojfrom.baya.
      @nojfrom.baya. ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 2023 ktm 125 xc, how long do you heat it up with the shock on? I already sent lost several spark plug

  • @phifedig34
    @phifedig34 ปีที่แล้ว

    the bike in the video is TBI. he’s done videos on how to warm up a TPI. they’re very different. The owners manual also clearly states what to do for either bike. if you’re in the comments complaining and can’t handle basic care for a dirtbike, then don’t ride. buy a skateboard or you can get a quad or some other beginner machine to learn on. these just aren’t for you!

  • @panicrev555
    @panicrev555 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engines are designed to operate under load. I just ride mellow for a couple minutes and it's good to go. I've ridden all kinds of two-smokes and have never EVER experienced or heard of any of the below hazards when not letting one's bike idle up to temperature. They probably ride like their grandmas too.

  • @sinistervulcan
    @sinistervulcan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 18' TPI typically won't rev for a minute or two if it's dead cold. I'm assuming it's running rich at first to lubricate, as it smokes more when it's cold. Once it runs for a minute it clears up both in smoke and revs.

    • @bilboswaggens2975
      @bilboswaggens2975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re gonna blow your bike. Let it idle to operating temp.

    • @sinistervulcan
      @sinistervulcan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bilboswaggens2975 that's kind of what I was eluding to, I let it idle for a few minutes first. Not that I ever ride when it's lower then 50°F out anyways. But what exactly am I waiting to warm up?

  • @dirtstorm4637
    @dirtstorm4637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wick my throttle to warm mine up. That way it warms it up but not to quickly, and was told not to let mine idle too long It's a TBI..

  • @zachooton6036
    @zachooton6036 ปีที่แล้ว

    More cow bell!!

  • @UploadCreated
    @UploadCreated ปีที่แล้ว

    Do I get bonus points for seeing the spelling error?

  • @milesfereday5364
    @milesfereday5364 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well mix your oil right and don't worry about it...

  • @valeriel1292
    @valeriel1292 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sponsored by vertex and millennium technologies?

  • @micklejackson806
    @micklejackson806 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On a carb bike you are right, letting it idle for too long will foul plugs and isn’t the right way to warm it up. But a TPI bike is completely different, you are giving terrible advice.

  • @jacksonstanfill1003
    @jacksonstanfill1003 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just let mine (22 250sx carb bike) idle for about 20-30 seconds then hop on it

  • @linus5699
    @linus5699 ปีที่แล้ว

    The yellow knob under the throttle body is there for a reason.

  • @summitenduro2198
    @summitenduro2198 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And again make video on own to blow a 2 stroke faster. Not hard when you don't keep the bike for more than a 100hr

  • @foil666
    @foil666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's how I warm up my two stroke: I start the bike, put on my gear - about 10 minutes - and then take it easy for a while.
    Revving and/or putting load on a cold engine doesn't make any sense to me.

    • @peterdalmationcro4217
      @peterdalmationcro4217 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s ridiculous, warm it up for a few minutes & off you go. Touch the radiator to see if she’s warm. Fair enough though dude, if you’ve got your method & it works, cool bananas 🍌. 10 minutes sounds extreme to me though, sometimes bikes seize for no ambiguous reason at all, it happens, your 10 minutes does not prevent that. I know some of my mates don’t even run in their bikes, ( I do though, & I recommend it ), but theirs last as long as my run in bike. Get your head around that!

  • @josephelefante9617
    @josephelefante9617 ปีที่แล้ว

    I let my 300TPI idle until motor/radiators is warm, with no revving. Never fauled a plug.

  • @evanwilliams6352
    @evanwilliams6352 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shout out to my buddy who redlined my bike for 2 seconds.. (twice) 3 seconds after startup 😅 at 40f

  • @MakeItHappenOriginal
    @MakeItHappenOriginal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1 year sober from porn and then this pops up 🤤

    • @humpday2267
      @humpday2267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh what the hell 😂

  • @daleskiog7499
    @daleskiog7499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a goofball

  • @Trikk57
    @Trikk57 ปีที่แล้ว

    This will foul a TPI straight away.... The oil map in the TPI bikes is fat as up until the coolant temp is reached, it literally dumps so much more oil into the fuel whist cold...

  • @jamesoso259
    @jamesoso259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well you wouldn’t jet a bike based on it being cold. Saying it has too much fuel at idle would be irrelevant until it’s completely warm. Then you could determine what is too much or not enough

  • @TheWhole36
    @TheWhole36 ปีที่แล้ว

    The comments are basically telling me don’t listen too you?😂

  • @cdnmoto849
    @cdnmoto849 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder who knows better, Kyle or KTM who manufactured these bikes? I'd go with the people that designed and built the bike, maybe that's just me.

  • @skylerpitts5196
    @skylerpitts5196 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can’t you just start it and ride it? Just stay less than half throttle till the bog goes away?

  • @endurovex7272
    @endurovex7272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Live in wi and i fire bike up and idle it and never had a problem. The day you tell people to rev a cold 2 stroke bike is the day they lockup it. What in the world are you thinking. The absolute worst thing you can do to a cold 2 stroke is rev it lol my god...

  • @Smokey-mt6ye
    @Smokey-mt6ye ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No one ever seems to talk about the choke.

    • @AngelGarcia_420
      @AngelGarcia_420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its a tpi bike. No choke necessary pimp. Its fuel injected and has specific mapping for start up

  • @elishaandruschenko1730
    @elishaandruschenko1730 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love it

  • @michaelrogers9971
    @michaelrogers9971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kinda odd 32.1 klots benoil idle for 10 mins no foul

  • @Jai_Noble
    @Jai_Noble ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good way to ruin a tpi cylinder and piston

    • @brianjones7681
      @brianjones7681 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a tpi bike

    • @Jai_Noble
      @Jai_Noble ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct, but he still does this with tpi bikes and said it’s fine to do so

  • @lukasbedrnik3423
    @lukasbedrnik3423 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good bye TPI KTM, real seizure is coming soon to you...lets just buy another 1 soon. Like your vids but I would stick to KTM manual warming procedure for TPI bikes.

  • @767dag
    @767dag ปีที่แล้ว

    now it’s 20 plus year and all these cool cap , flat brim guy don’t know 💩 . more concerned about fooling plugs than ingestion of cold ail into engine before everything has expanded

  • @cookingchickenugget6924
    @cookingchickenugget6924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    environment 💀

  • @AngelGarcia_420
    @AngelGarcia_420 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm i the only one to never foul a 🔌 in my 30 years of riding experience?

  • @LifeWideOpen780
    @LifeWideOpen780 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great technique if you sell ur bjme every year lol. Who rides the clutch like that

  • @nicovanduin1553
    @nicovanduin1553 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How to warm up your bike and ruin your clutch

  • @BSm2919
    @BSm2919 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have I fouled a plug.....Nope. I had a buddy that fouled a plug about every hour of riding. He was way too fuel rich.

    • @DirtBikeChannel
      @DirtBikeChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nailed it! Some People foul them left and right. I've talked to hundreds of them over the years. It's a fuel and tempp issue. Plugs don't like to be cold!

    • @BSm2919
      @BSm2919 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DirtBikeChannel On a side note, the beginning of this video was literally music to my ears!

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nope.

  • @tigersdl65
    @tigersdl65 ปีที่แล้ว

    Geez all you commenters are Prima donnas. No one is concerned with how you warm up your bike and Kyle isn't going to blow up any of his.

  • @CLAUDIO_KTM
    @CLAUDIO_KTM 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    51 % wrong ! ! ! You must warm up to the write temp..and then you go slow ride..with 33% throtle first 10min... then can you go Braaaaaaap - full gas 😊😅
    Bike have two maps....cold(warm up) and hot map ...

  • @rogershipman3578
    @rogershipman3578 ปีที่แล้ว

    Slight difference with warm up on a carbureted and EFI 2 stroke. On either one Power valves and silencer packing have zero effect on fouling plugs or warming up a 2 stroke. Carbs have a choke or enrichener. You pull that, start the bike, the bike will idle at a high RPM, let it idle until the idle raises higher, then return it to the release position which will go back to normal idle. It will take between 30 seconds and 1 minute depending on outside temperature. Voila, engine is warmed up. With EFI bikes you have to blip the throttle to get the RPMs up so you don't foul the spark plug on start up. Do that off and on for 30 seconds or so then go ride.