Victorious Analysis: Cat Valentine
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- Happy 10th birthday Victorious! Here's the Cat Valentine Analysis so many have been asking for. Let me know your thoughts in the comments down below.
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when she goes from happy to worried tho she’s only in the worried state for like a few seconds bipolar would last for like weeks
Your totally right
isnt like tory sayed first episode cat is manic depressiv
@@Thurslay i have episodes like those often they can last even just 30 seconds, but yeah usually it is for days but idk it is what it is
Mariana Lagos oh ok cool i didn’t know that it could work like that. thx dude :3
why does no one remember the fact that she was literally accidentally put in solitary confinement in a pysch ward that one time they went to the ER when rex "died"
Yeah it was pretty funny how they were concerned
Oh, I remembered. I just didn't mention it.
But that was because she was telling them what happened and they thought she was crazy but she wasn’t lying.
celia wedner I remember.💡
I AM CUBE FIST MAN
She doesnt seem depressed. She seems more in a child state due to her parents ignoring her for her brother
That's true too because she wants more attention over her brother
(From her parents)
yeah i feel like she has manic/hypomanic episodes. she very rarely seems depressed and you can still have strong negative emotions while in a manic episode
Y’all looking too deep at it, she acts like a child because the producer was a creep and she was constantly sexualized, not because she has some mental illness 🙃
jilly bean yeah, but it’s cool to dive into characters that have depth, not into characters that are shallow and have to fabricate layers, it’s just poor writing although the show was cool
jilly bean also, watching this show with the “the producer is a creep who gives pedo vibes and has foot fetish” filter made me traumatized so it might be that
“i’m under my bed, i’m under my bed”
nickelodeon: *laugh track*
Now that you point it out it is kinda fucked up...😅
JAJAJAJA
It’s so disgusting how they downplay trauma as a joke
Especially when the audience are children/ teens who could be going through the same thing
They could think that something is wrong with them and not the situation
Could have handled that one waaaaay better Nickelodeon
It’s sad. And you never know what’s she going through at home, bc she seems like a funny, happy person.
LOOK AT HER SUFFER! AGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAG
She might have brain damage. She did mention that one time she came home late and her brother thought she was a burglar and broke a vase over her head, making her head bleed. Which is apparently also a reason why she dyed her hair red. Well, that and because she wanted her hair to be the same color as her favorite food, red velvet cupcakes.
Yeh he said it stained a little bit of her hair and she liked the colour s she dyed her hair red
WAIT WHEN!? I’ve never heard of that!
What episode??
what episode
what episode🥺
I don't think Cat is bipolar, I think maybe she regresses back to a younger age which causes her to act childlike to make up for her childhood
Yes
I had a theory about this on another Cat video hehe
Ali Joyce yeah I saw a video where that was one of the theories, I don’t remember exactly why but it has something to do with her brother and the way he is. I don’t think she is manic depressive, we never see her severely low moods throughout the show unless she’s upset about something like a guy breaking up with her which happens pretty instantaneously. If she were this kind of bipolar then she would have entered either state of mania or depression over the course of days or weeks and we never really see her depressed for more than a few hours. Also I don’t think her parents would really make sure she’s taking meds or really going to a therapist regularly like she should. Her parents don’t seem to care about her at all or actually take care of her which also might be a reason for the way she is. Maybe she wants to get the attention and affection that she doesn’t get at home and so she acts very child like. When you actually think about the show it’s really dark. Tori and Trina’s parents are kinda neglectful and the mom is probably having an affair with her husbands cop friend. Jade has a lot of anger and a very cold father who she isn’t close with and she’s in a very toxic relationship with beck, who seems mostly normal and stable. Andre has a crazy grandmother and it seems like he takes a lot of care of her. Robbie and Rex are honestly another psychological analysis video.
Yeah I think she does/ has age re
@@missserenity1090 well said! I completely agree with you, she doesn't meet the criteria for bipolar or anything similar. As for the video on the slap, it's very likely Robbie was using bipolar as an adjective rather than referring to an actual diagnosis
"Beck's locker is transparent because he has nothing to hide....or nothing going on..." I literally laughed out loud.
@Angel Curtain Beck doesn't have much of a character, he's just a pretty boy. I mean, you can be an adequate person, but still entertaining (Andre), but Beck is probably one of the most boring characters (i still like him tho, but he is just handsome guy, nothing else).
@@ЮляЕмельянова-г6э Beck had a lot of potential that I think that could of been fleshed out. Like they could of fleshed out him being an actor more by using his skills to get them out of situations, As well as the fact that he's a mechanic and dancer. I feel all that could be brought out in separate ways from all the singers. Also I wish andre and him had more time together to see their dynamic more. Like this youtuber said, they could potentially made some cool plays together.
@Nightmeow on Elm Street sang
I honestly wish Beck's relationship with his parents was more talked about plus why he originally moved into the RV. What pushed him-?
@Nightmeow on Elm Street singed 🤣🤣
Sometimes I forget she's Ariana Grande
Fr
Lol they straight up two different people. Someone took over her body after Sam and cat.
Me ro
@@maddiemcnugget1076 or... Nickelodeon finally stopped possessing her body...
@@gigifabulous true
When she started saying "I'm under my bed, I'm under my bed" I was so sad like omgggggh
I know that made me so sad 😞
I don’t get it
@@sofiadelrio5374 when reoccurring traumatic events happen you usually go to your "happy place" to get away from it all and stop from doing anything to yourself. in her case, her parents may have fought often so she would hide under her bed as her safe happy spot to avoid conflict xx
Yeah, could actually be funny if it wouldn't be so sad
Yeah it's actually kind of scuffed to make a joke out of it
i honestly don’t believe that everyone in victorious is really ok mentally
tori: she obviously had to take care of trina even though she was younger than her because her parents were both neglectful and are shown to actually hate trina. this had to take atoll on tori in some way or another because she was basically put in the roll of a caretaker from a young age. and dont forget that tori and trinas mom regularly cheats on their dad.
trina: her parents are shown to hate her and try to avoid her in every possible way on multiple occasions. she takes on the persona as someone who is narcissistic and rude because she wants all the attention (and her parents love) to herself. they are also shown the praise tori way more then her.and dont forget that tori and trinas mom regularl cheats on their dad.
jade: she is shown to not respect most authoritative figures in her life such as her dad and her mom. we see this on the slap when she states that she got her nose piercing about 45 minutes (i think) after her mom said that she wasn’t aloud to get her face pierced. i also think it’s sort of hinted at that her parents fight so she thinks that’s a normal way for relationships to be so that’s the ways she treats beck.
robbie: he is seen to be attached to a puppet who belittles every chance he gets and i think some people forget that rex is a puppet. he’s controlled by robbie so rex saying all these things to him can be seen as robbie himself projecting his thoughts into the puppet. rex is seen to be crude and often make remarks about a girls which can be seen as robbies true thoughts about the people around him. he also goes as far to make his friends to take rex to a hospital when rex “dies”.
cat: cats family life is obviously not the best. you can see this by how she talks about her brother. she says that hinge like how her brother got shot by a clown, was stabbed in japan, and had to go to a hospital where he was tied down. when she says “i’m under my bed, i’m under my bed, i’m under my bed” it can be seen as a coping mechanism for when she gets to stressed out or scared. she maybe hides under her bed when her parents and brother are fighting so under her bed is her “happy place”. her brother also had hit her in the head with a vase when she came home late because he thought she was an intruder and she liked the color of the blood stain so much she decided to dye her hair. she like trina takes on a persona but for her it’s a more childlike one. jade probably understand what she’s going through so she has things like coloring books and snacks for her. and let’s not forget the episode where rex “dies” and she was emitted into a mental institute.
andre: his grandma is seen to be crazy a lot on the show and he mentions in an episode that she wasn’t always crazy. so seeing your grandma slowly turn crazy can’t be good on your mental health. let’s not forget that he loves with her so while she was going insane he had to be with her every step of the way. he had to take care of her instead of her taking care of him. and he’s only about 16/17 so her turning insane must of had to happen when he was much younger. him having to watch that happen before him must of taken atoll on his own metal health.
beck: i fell like beck fights with his parents or that they have very strict rules because he decided to live in an rv so he didn’t have to listen to them say “your under my roof so you have to go by my rules”. i just have a hunch that his parents might be very strict with could have caused some mental issues.
sinjin: sinjin could very well just be seen as a weird kid and from what i remember we dont get a good look at his personal life so its hard for me to make assumtions on his home life like i did with the other characters but if you examine his behavior he could have something like autism. lets start with the autism theory some signs/symptoms of autism are abnormal tone of voice, inappropriate social interactions, and hyperfixations on stuff. sinjin has a pretty monotone and sort of serious voice but that could all be explained with the actor. he is shown to not be very good at keeping conversations and making people weirded out by the topics he talks about. while he might not hyperfixate he really only is seen to do the tech aspects of productions. so while it might not be autism it is a theory
sorry if this was bad or offensive i’m not the best at explaining things let me know what you think and tell me if i missed anything and if you have any theories feel free to share them
It’s Emilia, Got It I read a theory that Jade cuts herself and that’s where her obsession with scissors comes from.
I loved this show as a kid but looking back on it as a 17 year old... man.. this show was DARK
This is so true tho 🥺
@@palcada that's kinda sad but I don't think she would do that 😳😩
@@Anxmaly666 yup
Theory: Cat is an Age regressor. Jade always had little snacks and coloring books for her to have. Jade genuinely does care about cat, and I believe she's a type of caregiver for cat in a way.
yeeessss
Cat is a little.
My age regression heart just swelled.
No
@@Anna-bm3oe You gonna elaborate or just be obnoxious and rude.
i think she also age regressed as a coping mechanism, and as someone said she might have brain damage too. cats a sad character.
I think she age regresses but isn't bipolar. My long time best friend is bipolar type 1. I feel like that diagnosis is just completely off for cat honestly.
cat and her background is so dark...
@@remonfuwara4276 right?!
Isabella Parker yes :(
Here are some things to prove that Cat is emotionally damaged:
The thing that inspired her red hair (it's obviously not naturally red), was blood from when her brother smashed glass on her head and she liked the color.
Whenever Cat talks about her brother, Jade always gives her something else as a distraction. Like a coloring book, cereal, keys, anything.
How when Beck and Jade were fighting, Cat covered her ears and yelled, "I'm under my bed!"
maybe that meant she had to hide from her brother once or multiple times
Ariana died her hair before going on victorious
She mentions her hair is red cause she likes red velvet cupcakes.
@@AWKWARDCONFIDENCE True, but that was her canon reason in the show.
And in another episode she said "I feel so loved" which gives a hint about how they probably give her brother more attention
@@siderealy she also takes depression pills that’s why she’s so energetic because it puts her in a quirky mood and she’s abused by her brother mentally and physically so it puts her in the mind state of a child
this show is like 10 years old and we're still doing stuff like this.
demi have you ever seen The last Airbender?
it’s fun :D
Timeless
So?
This website is 15 years old and we're still using it?
Does anyone remember when cat was living in the school 😂
That scene really hits home how Victorious was a barely concealed teen show like Degrassi. The fact that Cat would rather be homeless and live in the school at night then be with her mean aunt and uncle. This show had a lot of mature shit in it.
Rikki B episode???
Taco Bella star spangled tori i think
That was a vibe tho
@@raevenavrila9213 yep
Let’s be real here, if Victorious never had the laugh track, this show would have been so dark...
Also action scenes looks less exciting without music... Ah yes, the human ear is a magical thing. I wonder what deaf people feel when they watch this.
Especially about cat talking about her brother randomly its always so dark
like how theres one scene where jade comes to tori crying, and they play a laugh track ?!
You can say that about any sitcom ever
NGL, this show gets darker the more you think about it.
Tom Eye The SFM guy I KNOW RIGHT!!!! Yo you should’ve seen my face when I found out Tori’s mom was cheating on her husband lmao
Fr bro 😂 for kids our ages then
WHATS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN
Even worse when you think that the pedophile dam schneider produced it.
That's not the only thing getting darker.
Im now mad we never get to see Cat or Trina's locker.
Cats locker is the pink one with a flower in the middle with the leaves sticking out.
Trina's was probably just covered in pictures of herself
Ugh same all these episodes & not one with either of them at their lockers.
Karen Smith they mean in the actual show. They never actually showed us what their lockers look like
Miss Amanda's world We did see it in the episode where jade and beck broke up.
I feel like Jade has to be around Cat as much as possible, Jade has toys and coloring books for her, and I know that Jade wouldn’t just carry around coloring books and toys for no reason
This quarantine really got me watching this
Same 😩✋🏾
The Belljar Same. It's late at night and I just found this video
Same
Yess same😂
SAmE
I get kinda mad and find it kinda sick how when cats starts saying “ I’m under my bed I’m under my bed” they play a laughing track like how the hell is her being scared and panicking like that funny?
And how they used her for comedic relief immediately after Jade left in the card scene in that same episode.
they also used laugh tracks to jade describing her shitty relationship with her father so i aint surprised
I guess they are trying to let the viewers dig deep that's why it's being sugarcoated with laugh tracks
They use laugh tracks a lot even if it isn’t funny (I’m talking about all shows). It’s stupid
The laugh tracks are part of a brainwashing operation. It rewires your brain to think differently.
Theory: The part when she says “I’m under my bed” makes me think there is something really messed up going on in her house. Maybe all the stress comes from her brother being messed up in the head, but we will never really know. I think things are so bad at her parents home so she has to move in with her grandma in “Sam and Cat”. Her life is sadder if you think of it. She’s always the life of the party, the happy one in the friend group. And I truly believe that because she feels more safe with her friends in a way. But that’s my theory.
I don’t remember the episode’s name but Jade & Robbie actually find her living inside the school somehow and that was because her parents & her brother had to go to a different state because he was just completely insane. So that’s why she moved with her grandma. But, it still had something to do with her family/brother being unstable so I respect your theory!
I'm not quite sure who, but somebody once from the show (like the author or director, but idk who anymore) that Cat got sexually abused by her brother and this is why she is going in a "kid state" idk how to explain this, jut if i find a link about it i can Post it here!
but she had to move to her nonnas apartment? and her nonna is quite normal. When her nonna talks to sam she often say that sam should take it easy on her.
Nona*
No actually it's ' Nonna'. It's italian for grandma
@@Carolina-xr4zx Oh. Whoops. I didnt know that
@SabrinaCenteral her uncle and uncle, she mentiond it in the episode were she buys alot of stuff from the catalog
@@twowarriors6052 i think her "uncle and uncle" are a different set of relatives from her "mean aunt and uncle" because if she didn't feel comfortable enough to live with them, why would she stay in touch with them? Much less hang around them, or buy from their catalogue? idk I hope what I just said makes sense lol
remember that time in sam and cat when cat got stuck in that box, and she said “this box is cozy, reminds me when i would hide from my brother in the closet” and sam asked “why do you hide from your brother?” and cat replied with “to survive!” .. it’s not word for word, but if you wanna find that episode, it’s season 3, and the beginning was talking about mystic mountain. but yeah. she said “to survive!”
I specifically remember that
@@gayghst2877 frr
it was not season 3 lol sam and cat don’t have a season 3
It's on Netflix, I think it's season 1b, btw goomer said "why would you hide from your brother?" no offense, but I think goomer knows why because her brother appeared on henry danger
like if u didnt even read this
For someone that has to go through domestic disputes day in and day out for almost every day of my life, having a laughing track slapped over an anxiety attack is one of the most disrespectful things I ever been shown
where was the anxiety attack?
Blame Dan Schneider a fucked up monster who harassed and traumatized many of the actors
@@cosmicjessica3201 cat was saying “i’m under my bed, i’m under my bed” when jade and beck were fighting, she was panicking probably because her parents argued a lot and she hid under her bed to cope with it
@@amitabose2232 yes but that was literally nowhere near an anxiety attack
@@cosmicjessica3201 what was it then??
I have three theories about Cat.
1. Age regression, she acts like a child as a coping mechanism/to make up the childhood she most likely missed out on. I assume she missed out on a childhood because her parents were so preoccupied with her disturbed brother and didn't really have time to parent their "normal" (friends, good grades, amazing school, many talents, etc.) child.
2. This is similar to 1 but not 100% the same. She makes sure to study and get good grades and have a bunch of talents and hobbies to get attention from her parents (who are neglecting her due to a lot of energy being put into the care of her brother). When her parents still didn't notice her as much as she would like, she started acting similar to her brother in an attempt to get her parents to notice her.
3. In two separate "The Slap" videos she said she dyed her hair to make it the same color as her fav food (Red Velvet cupcakes) and that one time when she got home her brother smacked her with a vase and the blood stained her hair and she kinds liked it, so she dyed all of it red. A hit that was hard enough to draw blood might have caused brain damage.
I know that the creator made Cat's character for laughs, but I love diving deep into characters mentality.
i think that’s actually a mix of them three
Well cat was created because the producer used Arianas attractive features and sexualized her as a weird child fetish
Wait...i'm scared. My mom hit me with a belt on my head, it made me bleed all the way down to my thighs so much that my clothes was dripping with blood. Is it possible that I have brain damage? If so how do I know? What are the signs? (this happened when I was like 9-11 i'm 16.
Casey sparkle Depending on where you live and what opportunities you have, it probably could be checked... I live in Norway (meaning good public systems), and I could have mentioned something like this to my doctor, and get a test. This is, however, probably more difficult in for example the US (it’s not my intention to offend anyone, but your system seems iffy to a lot of Norwegians). Still... brain damage can cause long-time effects, such as you developing problems with learning or regulating different things (depending on where the blow hit). Some people also develop other problems... but hun, if you function all-right and you feel like you can get through your everyday life... then it’s probably okay. Long-term damage should have been showing by now, and a lot of people have gotten injuries that looks horrible, but that ends up being all okay. There’s also a difference between punctured skin and damage to the skull or the brain. A belt can hurt a lot, and can do a lot of damage... but how it hit (distance and angle) combined with the place and which part of the belt it was can also affect thing. I would suggest talking to a doctor if you feel like something is wrong. Are you okay?
@@caseysparkle7638 wtf are you okay? Can you get out of that home? That type of behavior coming from a parent is child abuse. I really hope your okay.
I find it so weird but at the same time interesting that this is a show for kids but at the same time Dan Schneider gave us serious hints on why the characters are the way they are. It‘s like: okay watch this as a kid and understand it as an adult.
That's why I enjoy the show so much.
Albanian Snippets he might be a weirdo but all of his shows have so many deeper issues that we didn’t get u till we rewatched now
Cat: Copes with domestic abuse by saying "I'm under my bed, I'm under my bed, I'm under my bed!"
The laugh track: 🤣🤣🤣
One thing that really bothered me about Cat’s character trajectory was how her musical talent was gradually de-emphasized to the point that it was completely forgotten in Sam and Cat. Not once during the entire run of the show do we hear the singing voice that we all know and love. In addition, there is no more than a passing reference to Hollywood Arts (other than one or two episodes where some of characters are reprised). Are we to assume that she went off the deep end so badly as to have forgotten her vocal chops? The rare instances of singing we do see are sketches in which the characters all sing off key. Very strange regression.
I think it's just because Ariana Grande was already a famous singer so it would cost much more money to Nickelodeon hiring her to act and sing. Probably, Ariana was just hired to act. However, I could be wrong.
It's funny because I don't know where to stand on this. I'm all for taking characters out of their comfort zone in spin-offs, cause if a spin off keeps calling back to its brother series, then what's the point of the spin off? But at the same time, her music was such a big part of her character. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if they actually did something different with her, but yeah...not much was done.
Ariel Tales I can totally see your point. I never thought about the licensing aspect of it. Thank you for your input!
Jayniac Jr. yeah I see what you mean about spin offs. As far as they go, my favorite was Frazier because it still maintained key attributes of Dr Frazier Crane while introducing new and compelling characters and storylines. Sam and Cat strikes me as a rush job hastily assembled because Nick fully expected there to be a fourth season of Victorious. I agree that it is a delicate balance between having a new show and maintaining characters from the host show.
it could also be because victorious was based more on singing, dancing and theatre than sam and cat was and having cat sing just wouldn’t fit into the dynamic of the show
Females, I think we can all agree that when we grew up we realized keeping food in your bra was not a quirk but a life hack
Today I learned...
Well how do you think I get my food into the movie theatre? The subway (or any other fast food) goes in the pillow case as long as you’re willing to get a little grease on your pillow but be responsible enough to wash it when you get home.
@@cupidsangel5472 Best analogy I've ever heard
What about pockets? And what if your friend/family member wanted to eat some of the food, would you tell them it was in your bra? 😂
Jase Martin its not for them
Its crazy how well Ariana played Cat, I wonder if she knows the truth about Cat
Probably that’s probably why she didn’t wanna do the cat voice on her live someone asked her to do the cat voice
Imagine being able to act a psychological disorder so well that you confuse everyone as to what illness you have. Ariana really acts well. I wish she would act more.
how to be random 101 i am constantly hearing ppl sayin that ari wasn’t acting well. but the thing u said was right. ariana acts rlly well
i loved her in victorious and scream queens
@@ariadnesag I mean she was pretty bad in scream queen tbh
@@niamhrtditchfield2348 she acted like 2 seconds and thats it but she comes from broadway
Hiding food in your bra isn’t a physiological problem. It’s called practicality. Lol 😂
Yeah make sure you don’t go to PE you’ll sweat oop that would ruin your gummy worms
Tracy’s Corner right it’s gone be all mushy and weird tasting 😂
Practicality has its limit as simply state by my two predecessors
@@rasputout7330
I guess maybe a plasic bag would help, but at that point you may as well go whole hog and buy a large backpack for just snacks.
@@IrvingIV quite true
i’ve always found robbie and cat’s relationship odd. i feel like he possibly could have harassed/ assaulted her because he was taking advantage of her naivety. first, in one episode, he mentions that they could play “pirates” together, and cat says “no, i don’t like the way you play pirates”. 2. in another episode, cat was upset about something and jade looks to robbie and says “did you play pirates with her again?” in an angry tone. 3. in the episode where she got a butterfly stuck in her ear, robbie walks in and says to cat “look, i have something for you” and cat responds by covering her eyes with her hands and yelling “no, i don’t want to see that thing again, put it away”, to which robbie says “no not that”. i interpreted this as him possibly showing her his penis without her consent, and since she was laying down on the couch when he walked in, she couldn’t see what he had when he told her to look his way, so she assumed it was his penis again, which is why she was so scared/anxious when saying it. 4. cat often feels scared to kiss robbie and be in a relationship with him, but also feels jealous of the girl he took to the dance when cat rejected him. also, at that dance, she asked robbie to stay with her after she got injured. this is a sign of a possibly abusive relationship. you hate the person for the bad things they’ve done to you, but because you’re in love with them, you still show that love. 5. robbie literally has cardboard cut outs of cat. i may be reading too much into this, but something weird is going on.
What episode and name of the episode is the i have something for you part please?
I agree. Dudeee, that’s dark.
Thats dark i will never see cat and robbie the same again
And to think I used to ship them...
Oh no I hope it's not SA. I hope she's just really freaked out with Robbie's weirdness cause they're cute. Plus I want to hold on to the idea that Robbie "might not have man parts"
Tori actually stated that she thought Cat was bipolar in the pilot episode.
Overwatcher2002 THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT! I THOUGHT EVERYONE FORGOT
@@Hazyla But Tori and Robby aren't medical professionals, so that isn't solid evidence, and a lot of mental disorders have overlapping symptoms so she might have something else. We never really see Cat go through depressive episodes (although she could just be very good at hiding it).
I mean apparently the doctors haven’t been able to diagnose anything so I doubt it is that.
I have bipolar. This video is absolutely ridiculous.
I think it was meant as more of a joke. The line exactly is, “Bipolar cats.”
kids shows don’t know how to write “dumb” characters. they start off a bit ditzy and then idk if it’s writers not knowing how to make characters “dumb” and just going off the rails with it or dumbing it down even more and making them crazy and whacky because kids show
It's so true!
I hated dumb people in tv shows as a child
They did it with Dez from Austin and Ally
How about Patrick Star? In the first few seasons anyway
@@hayhayluxray and the new ones
Everyone else: Theories about Cat
Me: Why didn't Robbie mention Beck?
It’s probably because Beck’s kinda viewed as one of the “normalest” ones in the group (I put “normalest” in quotes since he also seems to have some sort of underlying issues at least with his parents)
And Robbie kinda made the song about the issues that were going on in the group and stuff so uh ya
I was thinking the same thing actually.
Because besides being hot beck had no personality whatsoever lol
Probably Bc he doesn’t like beck too much cause he’s jealous of him
beck didn’t have a personality
The older I get and rewatch victorious, I genuinely want someone to analyze a lot of characters.
1.Robbie -ok as a kid I genuinely thought Rex was real and his own character. Now it’s kinda concerning that he’s a 16 teenage boy
2. Trina- Her obsession with being the center of attention
3.Jade- her anger issues and parents neglecting her
Don't forget how when Andre said "how does one go from an A to a D in a day?" Jade was like "happened to me in 8th grade" 🤭
Trina has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Jade has Antisocial Personality Disorder. Robbie... ion even wanna know
@@eddienortham7951 I think Robbie's just high at this point
I think Robbie sees Rex like a comfort animal? He would get bullied by little girls in school and probably had no friends, and judging by how rex ‘remembers’ it he had Rex at that time. He always felt disconnected to the main ones like he was a walking joke to them at times. So he keeps Rex with him as he makes him feel like he always has a friend around.
She only dated tori’s ex. And she wasn’t really dating that guy who likes blondes. Her and Robbie never got together.
In the show, yes. But in supplementary material Cat is seen to have many boys at her house. Perhaps "dates" was a poor choice of words.
Jayniac Jr. can you give me an example?
Kiara Roberts her slap videos
What about the second to last episode
u forgot TED
"Cat's not crazy"
Me: _getting chills already_
Same , I always thought cat was the “dumb” type that was the “happiest” one .
Cat is like the Starfire of the group
I the love Starfire!
Im a big DC fan and i would watch this show i would think the same thing for the fact they have a darkest past no one talks about wtf
Omg I love Starfire from Teen Titans.
TheLeah2344 of course who doesn’t?
Yass 💖💖
Comments: ADHD, Age regressing, bipolar, other theories
Me: So I just went back and watched victorious and I now see how dark Cats life really is-
IKR🥺 poor cat cats life behind the scenes it’s actually sad
Danielle Daniels yeah. Being a superstar with 100 million net worth sure is sad.
Floyd Lechner I think they meant the character not the actress-
Sky Beez i know 😊
Floyd Lechner wow you’re so funny I forgot how to laugh
I was shocked when I first ever saw cat saying “I’m under my bed.. I’m under my bed!” And then she passes out..
But wat does it mean??
@@Rayna070x it might mean that her parents fought a lot and when she got scared she’d hide under the bed?
@@ellaturk i think it might have somethjng to do with her brother... she says a lto of weird stuff about him
@@p1ssbaby696 yea :(
The scene where he showed her saying “I’m under my bed I’m under my bed I’m under my bed” made me cry even though my mom and dad aren’t together and she argues with her bfs a lot I’ve always stayed in my room, not hide under my bed or in the closet but in my bed with my headphones in blocking out the sound. I’ve never told my mom this and I honestly don’t REALLY act like cat but I can kind of relate
I'm sorry :( you don't deserve this.
I know how you feel. I put my headphones on and I try to block the scream out, but I can still hear them. I'm kind of used to it but it still hurts
I know how you feel :((
I'm so sorry that happened to you
Hey hon, I’m so sorry this happened to you and if you ever need someone to talk to I’m here❤️
Ok, so on the “home life” subject,, if you look at the episode “The Breakfast Bunch” when they all have detention, Cat says, “Yay! We’re at school on a Saturday!” Which I think it’s because she gets away from the fighting at home?
I also thought that.
Same here
Someone :D idk she was Alison who in the movie also just was there cuz she didn’t have something better to do. Could be just as reference
That or shes one of those people who really loves school
@@chloenieuwsma4846 She did move in at one point.
god i remember that in the early 2010s a lot of teenagers used to say they were "bipolar" just because they didn't understand what really means to be bipolar and tought that mood changes count as some sort of disorder
Can you do one on London Tipton? She’s from suite life of zack and Cody
Omg thats a great idea
That would be an interesting character to talk about.
shes just regular spoiled
Amanda Agreste yes please! And Maddie Fitzpatrick
Yes, she was a spoiled teenage asian heiress who has deep emotional/psychological wounds from the absence of her father, Mr. Tipton. She has more of a “father figure” relationship with Mr. Moseby than her father. As she bullies her teenage counterpart, Maddie, she repeatedly exposes her own insecurities and jealousies of wanting Maddie’s simple life.
I think cat never got the right attention from her parents because they were busy with her brother. Wich let her to act different so she could get the attention also. Also her parents argued a lot w itch makes her more mentally disabled. Maybe. Probaly?
Lmaoo
Yes I saw another video that said the same thing ur saying
possible age regression? makes sense
Writers: This will be the childish funny girl everyone will love her
People: she is bi polar
but in the song robbie says the cat is bi polar
@@notyayanguyen1735 yeah and tori calls her bipolar in the first episode
Cat is the most saddest character ever .
I love her, and big relate but my life pretty sad, so accurate
@@kittyb5743 I can relate to her as well. She is one of my favorite characters.
And then the second I would say is Robbie because if u think about it what Rex says is really what he thinks
yep. actually, i think that the characters that seem to be “sillier” or more bubbly. n cheerful are actually the saddest
@@alphachan4006 If Rex can talk on his own (when Robbies not around) I'm pretty darn sure it's not Robbie's thoughts and that he's just an electronic doll with a mind of his own. Jeez....what a dumb theory that was.
I got something for you :)
Cat mentions she doesn’t believe in global warming (in The Worst Couple closet scene) and that her favourite Vice President is Dick Channey (I forget which episode). So her parents are probably conservative politically and Christian maybe evangelical?
I’m gonna upload a video today on my analysis of Jade West, I’d love if you can watch it and give me your thoughts:) I love the victorious videos bro
Though I did think about the global warming bit, I never put the pieces together about her political views and how that may relate to her family! Thank you for this!
Jayniac Jr. Do you think the conservative political family theory is legit? I may be too far fetched :) you did an amazing job with this video bro
If they were conceive then why is Cat's hair Red
I mean we know shes Italian so her family is probably Roman Catholic
If her family is politically conservative that might explain why they have gun that her bother was able to be shot with 😂 🤔
I also wanted to share: there’s an episode where Jade is tracking down Beck and Tori. Jade impersonates Cat to trick Tori and says that “her brother locked her in the closet”. Cat later looked sad and said it was “so disrespectful”
Idk what it’ll be used for (probably nothing) but I wanted to share
I’m trying to imagine Ariana Grande watching this and I can already feel her confusion
Ikr, lol
it’s her brother, he’s mentally unstable and dangerous. which makes her like this. because he’s needs so much attention from his parents and Cat craves that attention too so she acts a lot younger than she actually is. i feel bad for her honestly.
So her brother is a Dangerous Man? I'll stop~
@@rmsdimples8533 yeah, if you watch the show and listen to the things her brother does it’s crazy. she talked about him being in a mental hospital, keeping real human blood, stealing things. he takes medication. therefore he is bad. watch the show. and pay attention to it.
@@allym9493 The 12 gallons of blood could have been from animalss, bu either way still meantally unstable and angerous.
I also think her parents are abusive and her brother might SA her...
@@taurusangel1111 yeah her parents argue a lot, that’s why she acts the way she does when other people argue. ptsd. her family’s just broken.
I always felt like Cat was more than a "stupid" or "crazy" girl like almost everyone thinks,,,especially now that I'm older and I'm watching a lot of videos about Victorious (and planning on rewatching the show)
This is why Ariana grande can hit all those high notes. Cats voice is so high pitched
thats actually not why. she has been in broadway since 2008, and she also played the french horn for a few years which is where she learned a lot about sheet music and theory.
MidnightUnicorn it’s just a joke because cats voice is so high
J R yes. Yes it is
J R it’s called Makeup and A glowup also I’m a Arianator
Anubis _ she actually did some plastic surgery, she got her lips done, I have nothing against that I love ari
I read that she acts the way she does because her brother gets so much attention unlike her. Especially when they were children and she was just doing it to make up for her childhood and get more attention. Like in her episode where they got to meet Kesha and everyone was surrounded her and hugging her, ect. and she goes, "Haha! I feel so loved!" It was like a sign that she gets little attention and affection from her parents. At the end of the episode where they show a clip from the slap she says, "My dad says I talk to much. He says that I say like, 15,000 words a day but I should cut back to like.. 10 words a day." Kinda says that she talks so much and makes sounds and does crazy stuff to get more attention from other people.
The episode is called, "Ice Cream for Ke$ha". You can find the clip here: th-cam.com/video/6jMB26SJnMA/w-d-xo.html
0:30-0:36
Which clip was it
One thing that caught me off guard as a kid. is seeing tori's mom so upfront about cheating on her husband with his partner at work.
episode name?
@@shikhararora_ it’s been months but if you still didn’t know it’s cell block episode, and the crazy ponnie one
I honestly want Ariana to see this so she can tell the honest truth about cat.
Same cause the psychology behind cat is really interesting
@@AikiraBeats omg ikr
She sadly wouldn't know about what cat's about
@@MistyLose not true. Actors are usually given background and circumstances to their characters so they can get a understanding on how their character is. How they choose to live in the character and live truthfully under the characters issues, feelings, thoughts, is a actors own thing to work on.
I wonder if the fact that Cat gets more dumb over the seasons was a choice ariana did herself or if the producers told her to act that way
I hate the comedic trope of the odd, quirky, or vapid airheaded character becoming progressively "dumber" or downright insane as a series goes on. It's just lazy writing.
Agreed.
It’s like cosmo. Although, after dan left Henry, jasper did the exact opposite of what you described
That happened to Gibby too.
Not only did he become more dumb, but he became more rude overall. This could be because Sam picks on him some times, but I don’t think that’s a valid enough reason.
It’s essentially confirmed that his parents were divorced in iCarly though, seeing as his mom and Spencer were able to date. Maybe that has something to do with the way he acts.
Yeah I like a fan theory as much as anyone but Cat’s dumbing-down was just bad writing.
WHATS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN???
"I'm under my bed, I'm under my bed" is a coping technique. It's used in both autism and post-traumatic stress disorder. To put it very crudely, it's essentially someone going to their "happy place". In Cat's case-considering the possibly abusive home life and brain damage from her mother holding her breath while pregnant-it could be either, or both.
Not just PTSD, it’s used in all anxiety disorders
"Valentine's family is nothing but..." Me: Problematic. "Odd."
*Be honest: you didn't search for this video.*
Merp huh nope
No lol
Merp huh this video searched for you
oh, but I did. LOL I literally read this comment and then looked up at my search bar and it legit said "cat's not crazy" i LITERALLY SEARCHED THIS UP LOL
@@Tapiboba same
imo, SINJIN needed more screentime.. i'd totally watch a show with him as the main character.. idk, he's not just weird, maybe he has a reason for acting strange, maybe he wanted to be noticed by the main crew. as he said in the last episode, he never gets invited to the main cast's house. idk, maybe they should've given him a chance.
He was an interesting side character deserved more screentime for sure
Tbh if the show would've never gotten cancelled and would've ran a bit longer I felt like Sinjin himself would've been added to the main cast much like Gibby did during season 3 of icarly.
Bruh he chews food and sticks in on his locker, then eats it later LMAO he’s weird bruh
I once read a theory that his parents abandoned him when he was a baby making him an orphan. Bc of the moving from family to family he never really got the chance to fit in, causing him to act weird in order to try to fit in and make friends
Am I the only one who thought that Robbie somehow abused Cat or smt like that?? I don’t know if I heard right, and I don’t remember the episode to search it up, but I do remember Cat telling Robbie “I don’t want to play pirates with you anymore...” and then says something that seems like sexual harassment... or maybe I’m just delusional
You're not the only one, I tried to find anyone who had some type of theory or confirmation about it but I couldn't, that line was always really weird to me.
Miss Blackheath so I wasn’t imagining it!!
I think that too! I always wondered why she was so uncomfortable with him playing pirates
maybe that’s why she freaks out and runs away when he kisses her
I'm confused someone help me out here
7:11 this scene is actually extremely disturbing, coming from someone who grew up in am anisive household myself, this really shocked me.
This was so disturbing to watch
Amara Beatrice the video was creepy for me :(
Ariana back then: "Ahahahahahaha!"😂
Ariana now: "Yuh."😎
what if cat doesn’t actually have a brother and she just says that because she wants the attention she never had
She does. In opposite date, she says her brother's turtle had special needs, and the nurse asks if the turtle is alright.
Jade saw him
We’ve seen him. He’s a reoccurring villain in Henry Danger. He was even in a quarantine special of danger force episode a few weeks ago
Moon101 Frankini is not her brother. If he was, then several plot holes have been created.
Lifeform Lover such as?????
in the first episode when Tori is talking about how holly wood arts isn't normal she says "and normal schools don't have bipolar cats" and by that she means that cat is bipolar so we knew about her since the pilot episode.
Well, that can be explained by no one took mental health seriously in the early 2000's and being called "bipolar" was an insult or joke.
Botsy agreed, just wanna point out that victorious isn't from the early 2000s
@@hannalowercase5928 Thanks for the correction.
I think my point still stands really until recently...I'm not sure the year, maybe even just within the last 5 years
Botsy thank god things are changing, even if at a slow pace!
@@hannalowercase5928 Agreed!
There's something I thought about now, you forgot to talk about Cat's Nonna (for those who haven't watched Sam and Cat, Nonna used to live with Cat, dunno why or when, in a kind of apartment before Sam got there, probably because of her parents and mostly brother's abuse). She is (kind of) the most normal person in Cat's family, she cooks, she used to babysit, she probably used to do the cleaning with Cat, watched tv and went out to eat in restaurants with Cat in her free times, she is a normal person.
I think she really helped Cat to let go of her traumas, because in Sam and Cat she's still kinda stupid, but she doesn't have these weird quotes like "what's that supposed to mean?!?" or when in a fight she doesn't start saying "I'm under my bed, I'm under my bed", so that's why I thought it was kinda important to talk about Nonna in this vid.
(srr bout the whole text, I just got exited >:3)
Yessss i love herr
6:56 he did !!!
i always actually assumed cat was bipolar and i thought that was her whole storyline? i never knew that her mental state was a “conspiracy”. i grew up around 3 different bipolar people , my mom being one , and i noticed a lot of Cat’s bipolar tendencies when i was a kid. i guess looking back now i thought everyone just knew what bipolar was and that’s why i always thought cat was just a bipolar teenage girl who had already been diagnosed 😂😂
I have bipolar disorder and we're nothing like cat. I find that so frustrating.
I feel like shed have borderline personality disorder
@@superash4u578 Uhh nahh. She really doesn't display enough symptoms of BPD. Like the original comment on here said already, it does seem to be at least more bipolar disorder than bpd.
@@yaknowwhoitis606 theres no way it doesnt seem like bipolar at all I only see her in mania never depression
@@superash4u578 Yes but in a mix of age regression (+ this type of show would not show depression, at least in a serious way) could explain why we mostly see her in the manic high episodes.
Cat is a genius. I think her home life just never honed that and then going to school people just sterotyped her. So she just became mental. Oh and i think the show makes the characters based off their real zodiacs signs. So cats a cancer in real life and the show just tripled the effects of being a cancer. cancers are moody ASF
lies
Lmao I’m a cancer
LDR_advocate its not a lie- cancers were made to be emotional, it’s the zodiac stereotype, you may be a cancer but that doesn’t mean you’ll act like one.
essencellie I just don’t believe in zodiac signs AT ALL. How can millions of People share the Same personality traits just because they were born in the same month lmao guys we‘re not in the middle ages get over it
Albanian Snippets well you’re not just the sun sign of the Zodiac which is well known. Your sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars, Jupiter, and saturn make up you as an individual. So while your sun sign could be lets say a Taurus. And your moon sign is a Leo so you could come off alot different than that generalized stereotype of a Taurus. So it’s definitely more than the sun that makes up your personality and quirks and things. And not every sign is the same as others. Some are more prominent than others
I was just rewatching the show, I’m on the first episode and tori says something that made me think of this video. “This isn’t a normal school, normal schools don’t have improv classes, barefoot teachers, bipolar cats, and nerds with puppets!” I was confused at first but then I got it
Video idea; Cat Valentine and her relationship with Jade and Beck as surrogate parents to her. There’s a victorious yearbook pic for Jade West (made just before she gets back together with Beck) and she says that Cat is her BFF and doesn’t know how she’d make tot through school without her.
Here’s a link to it.
www.pinterest.ca/pin/399413060693991281/
A more clear version exists at the bottom of “Jade West” photo gallery on victorious fandom
Abdullah Abbas YESSSSS !!!
Keari Hayes 😂😂😂 I love Cade (in BFF way)
Wow, awesome insight on this! Just when I think I've seen everything, the Victorious fan base brings something new to the table!
Jayniac Jr. I love that the show has many outside sources that are canon, and there’s fake TheSlap posts too. It makes it much more interesting. Victorious fans are the best with picking through it!
What episode is that? I really want to see Jade say that
Sikowitz character analysis!!
Oh yeah...I forgot about him. My mistake!
Jayniac Jr. aww it’s okay!! Thanks for listening to your subscribers :)
Psycho
He is just a hippie and does lsd
i... i had a girlfriend just like this, age regression and autisim, thing is we still friends, i could not hate her, she is happy now
I'm nosey, why did y'all break up?
@@AWKWARDCONFIDENCE she was 28 i was 27, when i got mad id go game or work, when she did she went and watched disney movies or would regress in the mind, i knew i had to because i can barley look after myself and i act childish so i made sure she found someone nice and we stayed friends.
@@mothmanofaustraliaradio8888 ima be honest: that's a sweet story. I'm glad you two are still friends. I love happy endings
@@charliefinnmichael4770 i am now with a girl that helped me with her during 10 years of my life, first girl i dated who not on the spectrum she says my personality is a wild ride no man has ever shown her, and i feel like its some higher power way of paying me for helping my ex find happiness, so now i to am happy
@@mothmanofaustraliaradio8888 that's a nice feeling, ya know. Helping others. You're a good person.
Finally, someone did an analysis of her character. They really didn't dig into her past in the show but all in all she's a very interesting character.
Keeping things in your bra isn't weird, it's just usually more of a secret
Who the f puts food their. It’ll get all sweaty.
@@sonnyfox60 My bra is my wallet when I go jogging. Never thought about putting snacks in there tho....
@@sonnyfox60 comfortable wrappers
I keep money
@@angelicapickles1135 I hate the idea but I respect it.
"What looks like a rose, but if you look closer it's a lady bug"
Me who saw a ladybug first: um?- wha-
I have a theory. Cat mentions her brother doing strange things and he has psychological issues i think bc of her brother her parents dont pay attention to her but i think she tries to act like a kid because she wants her parents' attention
That's literally what everyone's been saying.
Hey, you forgot she’s really good at drawing too. I know this isn’t that related to the video, but I wanted to give her some more credit and she’s also my favorite character. I just wanted to say that.
Sorry if I seem mean. I just wanted to credit.
Not mean at all. Thanks for pointing it out.
Video: *says all these crazy phycological meanings to Cat’s locker*
Me: But...What if she just likes ladybugs?
Every literature teacher. Always 😂
This was actually really upsetting. Even though it's not real. It really hit me.
The whole “KEEPS FOOD IN HER BRA” thing.........I mean I use mine as a pocket but not for my HOT POCKET
Apparently, you're not alone.
Paige Pongle XD
Yes! Theyre the perfect money holder too.
Sometimes I do put a granola bar in there.
@@JayniacJr lmao she was my inspiration, I carry gum, baby carrots and a picture of a baby goat😂 just to confuse people
i discovered this because i’m only getting victorious stuff on youtube but i really don’t regret watching this. i love theory and analysis videos.
theory: i think the ladybug on her locker represents her (because of her red hair) and the grass is her family and her ‘problems’. she’s trying to break free to the pink which represents her friends and the stuff she likes (because pink is her favorite color).
and also the fact that she dyed her hair red because she liked the color of the blood stain her brother made with that vase really scares me and doesn’t seem like something cat valentine would do. i mean she is kinda ‘crazy’ but not that level. i personally think someone forced her to dye her hair so nobody would question it or because they never wanted someone to find out.
so i did some reasearch and cat is mentally and sexually abused by her brother and she in the middle of talking on the slap was suddenly being bitten in the foot by her brother going out of screen then reapering seconds later was forced to get off thats what happend
What episode is that from?
Where did you find that out
drop the link to the scene i dont think ive ever seen that
so you just not gonna give us a link and leave us hanging???
@@gigiroxx17 sry i wil if i find it
I always thought that there was something going on in her home life. Every time she is about to say something about her life, jade would stop her before she said too much. I always found this odd. Jade also would carry around crayons and coloring books for her, so there must really be something she doesn’t want cat saying.... mysterious
jade is mean to everyone but she has a soft spot for cat she defenetly knows cat long enough to trust her so she probaly knows about her home life i mean shes the only character on victorious thats seen her brother
I just clicked on the video and it's at 999,111 views. Not only does it look delightfully symmetrical (in an inverted sort of way) but it means you're so close to your first 1 million views video! Congratulations in advance, I'll bet you'll reach that mark by the day's end!
For a kids show, they have some really dark and interesting secrets in victorious.
“She dates a lot of boys who never seems to remain in a relationship with her” ME. FELT.
I’m shocked we never saw cats locker , I never even realized that
omg the "im under my bed" when beck n jade were arguing😭💔
Although this seems very accurate, I think the true reason for this character development was because they knew she was more talented than tori. They tried to humiliate her by using this degrading her character (which ended up being the main reason why Ariana left the show) similar to trinas character (lines up with the locker idea). As her talent became more and more obvious her character became more and more degrading.
Oh boy the vacuum joke ...
DLaurie wait what does it mean
I'm shook
Kayla Loren he uses it to pleasure himself
It took me way to long to get that
DLaurie anyone get Scary Movie (I think it was 1 or 2) vibes?
Y'all remember when Cat had an actual panic attack when Beck and Jade we're fighting saying "I'm under my bed" repeatedly and then faints?
i love cat, she's really sweet and adorable in a childlike way. i like that the other characters also take care of her, like beck and jade, it just adds depth to a seemingly simple show.
There's a whole generation of kids that don't know this is Ariana Grande
Wow. That is so true we've never seen Cat's locker. I've never realized that!!
I'm like Cat. When I feel down, I start to act crazy so I can make myself better sometimes. Her being abnormal doesn't mean she's crazy, it just means that she found a way to uniquely blend in with the crowd that she thought she wouldn't.....
She has always been my favourite character. I think she might have an attention deficiency. I mean her brother has physiological problems so she never got attention. I even suggest that she was an "accident" and her parents probably tortured her for it. Her brother might have abused and she probably was broken for all her childhood. When she became a teen and started getting real friends, she acted like a child to get the attention she never got. She moved in with her nonna to escape. I mean I don't think she is actually stupid. I think she chooses not to be smart because when she was younger to get any attention she could from her parents. She felt so bad about her childhood so she started over. Just my theory