I found the twist about the friend and mom dating very weird and uncomfortable.. and it didn’t even seem like the mom cared about how it affected her son. It was just all about her feelings. Also the whole story felt very rushed and had a stupid storyline
@@babytoshiro7014 I feel like it's confusing, he tries to cram too much into one scene, like one scene lasts for too long. And the things I do like is that he tries to incorporate what's new, the son coming out as gay, an older woman being with a younger man, they should have focused more on the dad, the guy left his family he's a bad guy and the focus shifts from him, to the mom being with a younger guy
@@babytoshiro7014 like the way the scenes cut from one to another, awkwardly. I mean the dad is an awful human. The boy Davi turning and admitting he loves the mom was just awkward and crazy, I mean not everything has to be politically correct and we don't always need wokeness, sometimes a good laugh will just do. But he was overdoing it
Thank you for saying this. I agree with everything you said. I'm shocked at all the critics who are praising this as if it's some comic masterpiece. Some critics are afraid to criticize Tyler Perry's films. I found this film to be dull, insulting and unfunny. Hope you two feel better soon!
It’s most of the black community cup of tea describing our every day lives and struggles we go through and how to deal with them. If it’s not your cup of tea, don’t watch it.
@@Patmoorejr I feel like it's confusing, he tries to cram too much into one scene, like one scene lasts for too long. And the things I do like is that he tries to incorporate what's new, the son coming out as gay, an older woman being with a younger man, they should have focused more on the dad, the guy left his family he's a bad guy and the focus shifts from him, to the mom being with a younger guy
"Boy, this shit was so stupid." - That pretty much describes how I feel about the minstrelsy and laziness of Tyler Perry movies. He's been needing upgrades to his work FOR YEARS but since he's cheap, then wash, rinse, repeats of the same tired tropes and movies shot in 3-5 business days is what you get lol Thank you for the review!
I honestly think Tyler Perry doesnt hire black writers to write for him because he doesnt want anyone to out do him or compare his writing to one of the writers he puts on....because he knows mostlikely they will outshine him at this point
Tyler’s Perry’s old films were his best storytelling overall. Diary of a black women, daddy’s girls, I can do bad, family reunion, why did I get married, the family that preys. But that was when he had a writers room had help and cared about his productions. Now since he doesn’t have any help his films have been so trash. This one especially made no sense. How was the whole family cool with the mom hooking up with her sons boyfriend. Talking about true love. That whole situation was a fucking mess and made no sense. I haven’t been impressed in tyler in years.
Generally I enjoy Madea movies but this one ain't it As a gay man, I just found it backwards, confusing and actually kind of insulting how you find out the Mom and the Boyfriend are having an affair and for the rest of the movie, the movie asks the audience to sympathize with the mom (because she sacrificed SO much) and the proposal at the end is played like a romantic, triumphant moment. Like what??
I'm straight and feel the very same way. the mom did exactly what the dad did to her or even worse cause the whole family and the audience thought Tim was dating Davy Waisted 2 hours of my life on that movie
So right. People still consuming the low budget presentations so there is no need to improve it. I recall an article where Tyler said he had issues working with union writers previously so just prefers to do it himself but I think it all has to do with him keeping more money for himself.
But the mother sleeping with Davy, and keeping it a secret for two years - that was a violation on another level! And they just skate by it and say they it is okay? THAT RUINED THE FILM FOR ME. To be honest.
@@Dani-kf7txUm I sure as heck would judge if you’re smashing my best friend when he’s half your age, acting like it’s normal, and then trying to shame me for how I feel about the BS!
I just wasted almost 2 hours of my life on this movie last night so I couldn't wait to see y'all review. From the stupid opening scene I knew this would be bad. I usually love Mr.Brown (who doesn't age by the way lol) but him pouring gasoline on the grill and then being engulfed with flames has to be the dumbest thing ever. There's just so much wrong with the movie. Uncle Joe cringingly hitting on family, having issues with cops, mentioning burning down area's in protest, black lives matter, her son being gay, wyipepo coming in from Ireland and knickers being mistaken for umm you know, to the ex husband marrying the best friend and then the mom sleeping with her son's bestfriend... it's like what? Pick a struggle. I love Madea but sorry he should have left her in retirement. We've been saying he needs to hire a director, a writer and a stylist for his horrible wigs for YEARS but he wants all the money lol. I know he see's our reviews and he doesn't care. The original valedictorian speech looked like it was an essay that he tore up immediately, his speech was horrible and over the top. The acting was terrible. We're suppose to believe these two "best friends" who were in basically every scene together, I'm guessing to make us believe they were a thing and was never apart, that Davi found time to sleep around with his mom and he never caught on? Yeah ok. The way Davi was so upset with Tim's dad, more so than Tim or the mom... was so laughable. I'm here like why are you so mad? You were sleeping with her while she was married and got the girl, why you mad he left his family? lmao so dumb. Then imagine a grown ass man about to be forced to move back to Ireland against his will...ewww lmao, no ty. Then why did we need the great aunt and cousin or whatever she was? They couldn't just play his mom and gramdma? The relationship was weird as well as them just showing up and it wasn't even funny. I guess Tyler was trying to add Agnes fans to his fan list? Just weird. Hmmmm...what else? OH! The transitions were HORRIBLE... when they were leaving the park and the basketball bounced I was like wtf? Is someone else in the park? But nope it was another dumb transition lmao. Throw the entire concept and movie away, not believable AT ALL. The mom was so boring and just accepted everything and I'm sick of Madea's long drawn out conversations about finding and giving love. I'm like if she hasn't learned anything about love at 40 then stop, that's a speech for someone just learning to navigate through life 🤣sorry this is so loooong it's just so much to tear apart here 🤣...ok the end, 1 out of 5.
Exactly! You said everything I was thinking. This movie was such a mess. The beginning with Mr. Brown being on fire was dumb and I knew from there this film was not going to be good. However, I became more interested when I learned that there was a gay couple finally in a Madea movie only to find out later they aren't even a couple and one of them is straight and dating the other guy's mom. So disappointing.
I liked "Diary of a Mad..", "I Can Do Bad..", and "Family Reunion", mostly bc of the way in which SA was addressed, and how wonderfully the incomparable Cecily Tyson taught ppl to have self-respect. When Perry leaned fully into the character of Madea for "Witness Protection", that's when I stopped watching, and was grateful to hear he'd stopped making these.. caricatures. I agree with Joseph; this seems dated, and I'm surprised he made another one. Thanks for the nuanced take, guys!
@@tamikawoods2236 That's one of my favorites! I watch it every time it's on tv. I love how all of the disparate plots fold into one another, and the use of "I Hope You Dance" as a bellwether.
Unfortunately I gave up looking for any meaning, relevance, significance - and shall I add, Plot - in Tyler Perry’s movies ages ago and expect nothing more than a lite ki-ki at best🤷🏾♀️
My confusion about the relationship between Davi and Tim, I feel, comes from the fact that my straight male friends couldn’t care less if I’m out to my family or not.
Joseph said everything that I have thought for so long,it’s as if Tyler Perry is confusing stupid with funny, i would love to see Tyler Perry do standup to realise how awful his jokes land.Imagine in concert for 1 night Eddie Murphy David Chapelle and Tyler Perry, I would catchup on sleep during Tyler perrys set.
I get you, but to be fair he's not presenting himself as a standup and would be out of his element as most of us would be bomb too😂 But he's just isn't funny
I was really against the way that Tim’s feelings in the movie were shoved aside and how he just went along with it…like the message that was being pushed in that storyline was really dumb imo
The movie was over for me once the misdirection played out. It felt like a total half measure to the LGBTQ plot line. Like I was a little offended tbh.
I didn't laugh once. TP has bragged about how quickly he writes these stories. It shows in how derivative the story is. TP is making the same film on repeat.
I decided that after a few laughs I cussed and fussed about the storyline only to realize that it's not worth it when it comes to Tyler. At this point he won't even bother to get a writing partner because he doesn't want to be involved with unions in case you guys didn't know this. And I think you guys articulated this very well.❤️
As a young gay black man, I was definitely disappointed with the story line. This movie did not do the gay character justice. Tyler Perry should have let them just be a couple and not have included the weird creepy love triangle with the mom. It was all so messy and unnecessary.
I agree with everything Joseph said, and you opened my eyes to some things I hadn't thought of. Great, thoughtful review! Hope you guys continue to feel better!
That was a perfect and insightful review. Oh the wasted potential. I’ve never watched a Madea movie. Only thing I’ve seen him in Is Gone Girl and he was very good. He’s very talented and a kind man from what I know. Y’all are right-he needs writers and directors.
The only Madea movie I actually liked, was Family Reunion. I guess it’s because she was barely in it? I didn’t bother watching the last few of them. I did have to suffer through BOO!, one holiday with the family and it was trash. Funny review. Joseph always being shady, That poor lady looked so crazy! 🤣 Hope you both feel 100% soon. ❤️❤️
Yeah he needs new writers because at this point the scripts are recycled. This is the same plot on the last play Madea’s Farewell. Exactly the same thing happens with the son and best friend where everyone thinks they’re lovers but turns out that the mom and friend are dating, and his dad is trash and getting married to her best friend who was the lawyer over the divorce. He needs to do better at this point lol
The fact that this movie is #1 on Netflix today is exactly why the quality will never improve. I find his movies to be insulting to black people in that he feels the majority of us will just accept anything, regardless of quality.
I don't see Tayler Perry changing how he make his movies anytime soon. He has made millions out of stereotypes of Black people, especially the "angry Black woman" one, thus he has no motivation to change. After hearing you guys give the story, I realize that this script comes from an actual play of his. The movie is as bad as the play.
It felt like the movie focus of Tim's POV/main plot was pushed to the sidelines in a way, once it became more and more obvious that there was something between Davi and his mom, and once he came out. I agree with everything you both said, and I wish the movie wasn't made at all! Lol
I was so surprised to see Mrs. Brown in this film. I don’t feel they wrote Brendan O’Carroll’s scenes well because if you’ve ever seen a Mrs. Brown episode you’d be rolling off your arse!
Just wanted to add that I read that Spike and Tyler now have a more congenial relationship after Spike went to visit him and they had a long discussion. Also wondering about Tyler’s strategy to make this film R rated and having a gay themed plot line. Wondering how his much more conservative fans will react to this. I’m thinking he doesn’t really care and may be moving toward “someday” coming out of that closet. Here’s hoping 🤞 for his sake.
The fact that he ripped his speech & then starts putting the family on blast had me like, "Okay wtf!?!?" He could have did that in private. Then there's the whole subplot of Joe being pissed his niece is a cop went nowhere also unnesscary. But other than that I thought it was pretty funny
About the progression one character comes out as gay, and his friend is secretly dating his mom his family accepts him as gay, but he can't accept his mom and friend being together who's a younger man. I like the juicey tea being spilled.
Liked for "Premise:Madea's back halelujer." Edit: I love how Tyler Perry's projects to some people, Blacks especially, are what comic book movies are to people like Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola. 😆. (EDIT 2) Like Joseph's quote about how Black filmmakers feel anout his work. I think the last work of his I saw was For colored Girls or the Family that Preys whatever, the one with Kathy Bates and Sanaa Lathan. I knew his shtick and wasn't into it thus not looked forward to seeing any of his current stuff.
I missed you two! LOL ... I respect Tyler and what he has built - but I thought after Don't Look Up he would take more risks. I like Madea - not all of them (love the Halloween films). This sounds like he went backwards ... not forwards.
I saw that you guys had done the review but I hadn't watched the movie yet. I just finished watching it and I have one lingering question. Why was this movie even made??? Why! Why! Why! So many unnecessary characters. Such a waste of a plot 🙄
What in the hell is the "Eat, Drink, Man, Woman + How Stella Got Her Groove Back " Bullllllllllshiiiiiite did Tyler write, Lord Jesus!! Tyler NEEDS NEW WRITERS and put his ego in the drawer for once!! AMEN BLACK FOLKS NEED THERAPY too...let me just pour the rest of this wine in this glass....
Tyler been a problem since day one. The stereotypes of Black Americans in his plays and movies are damaging af. This is precisely the reason he blew up in Hollywood. A co-worker introduced me to his plays on DVD. She was of the Black church. The support from women in the Black church put him on the map. Just foolishness from the getgo. 🤦🏾♀️ smdh
I was bout to say church people really made Tyler Perry famous. I guess they look pass the foolishness for the messages🤷♂️ All the while he's making fun of people lol
@@babytoshiro7014 Comedy is supposed to be funny and sometimes he is but mostly he's not. Like Joseph said he needs to improve these damn scripts. I watch A Fall From Grace when I want to laugh but not for the reasons Tyler intended.
I’m shocked bc this is the first madea movie I’ve enjoyed in over 10 years but I agree with the story telling… not well done (but that’s just him). Especially the part with the mom and son situation.. like why
Tyler Perry getting more writers and directors would mean he would lose out on making more money for himself, if he is the writer, director and producer he can collect all of the coins smh
Tyler’s demographic just really confuses me it once claimed to be for Christian folks, as a lot of his stuff attempted moral lessons with a churchy focus, and yet…? I’m really confused on what he’s all about and what he’s trying to create and for whom
I would rather watch paint dry then then watch any of the Tyler Perry movies....How the fuck do these movies make any money..Is there really a following....Im in shock..Its like watching Adam Sandler garbage but at least he gets different directors for his cash grab..
I LOVE Madea and have seen all her movies but I have got to say this movie is by far the worst Madea movie and is honestly an embrassment next to the likes of Diary Of A Mad Black Woman,Madea's Family Reunion & Madea Goes To Jail...This movie made me cringe so many times and I wanted to like it but it was just so tacky,weird and poorly acted! The only saving grace was Madea herself...
The only thing I ask of tyler perry is better wigs!!!! plz I’m fine with all the other shenanigans I just cant stand some of the wigs he throws on some actors sometimes 😭
Maybe I misheard it (I was half paying attention as it went on), but doesn't the mom say she's 12 years older than her son's friend? How old was she when she had her son??
What I was confused on is that aunt bam was like "when did your man and best friend find the time to hook up when she was helping you with your divorce?" Well.. if the mom and davi can hook up for 2 years, idk 2 years aunt bam?
Joseph. Rest easy. Nobody looks back at Stepin Fetchit and thinks that's what black people are like except the brighter Klan members. The Madea movies will retreat to that same "Movies to watch when you're f*cked up" glory except Perry's movies might actually kill ya buzz. Thanks for the review. 😉
Watching Madea is a salve on watching the brutal murders in Ukraine, no matter how bad the writing.....it's like a giant rolled joint for mental logic..
Great video guys instant follow didn’t follow you before this but will while watching this but Mr. Joseph I know Tyler Perry’s films may not be your favorite but do people tell you you look literally just like him like you literally look like you could be his brother or some thing you don’t take this offensive because you’re very handsome you just look like Tyler Perry to me
I liked his plays which my niece watched constantly. Other than that, I just don't think his work is that great. Plus, he refuses to grow as an artist and you can tell by his work. One interesting thing I did learn was the Mrs. Brown character was inspired by the English version of Madea which I found interesting.
😂😂 Everyone has an opinion, but not everyone has the LARGEST STUDIO & PRODUCTION COMPANY in Hollywood built by 1 character 😂😂 I'm also sure when Tyler is cashing his paycheck from Netflix he's not thinking about anyone's TH-cam reviews on what has gained him a billion dollars 😂😂 Ya'll get to just 1million subscribers & then Tyler still won't know you exist 😂😂. Best of Luck to the both of you😂😂😂😂
@@michellinasandiego2015 😂😂His Fans aren't fault finding & complaining. Only the haters are doing that😂 & I addressed the haters with facts. This response is an example of such address 😂
2032 haha Joseph "He'll come out" Lmao, omg you guys are the best reviewers on TH-cam. Love ya'll💯 But both your commentary about this TP movies, in general is on point.
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I found the twist about the friend and mom dating very weird and uncomfortable.. and it didn’t even seem like the mom cared about how it affected her son. It was just all about her feelings. Also the whole story felt very rushed and had a stupid storyline
Didn't Tyler Perry once claimed how he can write hundreds of scripts in so many times? I guess this is one of those scripts lol😂
@@babytoshiro7014 I feel like it's confusing, he tries to cram too much into one scene, like one scene lasts for too long. And the things I do like is that he tries to incorporate what's new, the son coming out as gay, an older woman being with a younger man, they should have focused more on the dad, the guy left his family he's a bad guy and the focus shifts from him, to the mom being with a younger guy
@@GameOn71213 I see. This is why TP is no writer and barely a director but hey, he doesn't care as long as he makes money lol
@@GameOn71213 yeah it was all over the place
@@babytoshiro7014 like the way the scenes cut from one to another, awkwardly. I mean the dad is an awful human. The boy Davi turning and admitting he loves the mom was just awkward and crazy, I mean not everything has to be politically correct and we don't always need wokeness, sometimes a good laugh will just do. But he was overdoing it
Thank you for saying this. I agree with everything you said. I'm shocked at all the critics who are praising this as if it's some comic masterpiece. Some critics are afraid to criticize Tyler Perry's films. I found this film to be dull, insulting and unfunny. Hope you two feel better soon!
It’s most of the black community cup of tea describing our every day lives and struggles we go through and how to deal with them. If it’s not your cup of tea, don’t watch it.
@@Patmoorejr a lot of black people don't like it either but okay.
@@LucienneintheDreaming Says who? Black people who don’t like it maybe haven’t even heard of Madea cause this is the she acts. Long time fans love it.
@@Patmoorejr I feel like it's confusing, he tries to cram too much into one scene, like one scene lasts for too long. And the things I do like is that he tries to incorporate what's new, the son coming out as gay, an older woman being with a younger man, they should have focused more on the dad, the guy left his family he's a bad guy and the focus shifts from him, to the mom being with a younger guy
Insulting in what way?
"Boy, this shit was so stupid." - That pretty much describes how I feel about the minstrelsy and laziness of Tyler Perry movies. He's been needing upgrades to his work FOR YEARS but since he's cheap, then wash, rinse, repeats of the same tired tropes and movies shot in 3-5 business days is what you get lol Thank you for the review!
I honestly think Tyler Perry doesnt hire black writers to write for him because he doesnt want anyone to out do him or compare his writing to one of the writers he puts on....because he knows mostlikely they will outshine him at this point
YESSSSS. I totally agree!!!!!!
Tyler’s Perry’s old films were his best storytelling overall. Diary of a black women, daddy’s girls, I can do bad, family reunion, why did I get married, the family that preys. But that was when he had a writers room had help and cared about his productions. Now since he doesn’t have any help his films have been so trash. This one especially made no sense. How was the whole family cool with the mom hooking up with her sons boyfriend. Talking about true love. That whole situation was a fucking mess and made no sense. I haven’t been impressed in tyler in years.
Generally I enjoy Madea movies but this one ain't it
As a gay man, I just found it backwards, confusing and actually kind of insulting how you find out the Mom and the Boyfriend are having an affair and for the rest of the movie, the movie asks the audience to sympathize with the mom (because she sacrificed SO much) and the proposal at the end is played like a romantic, triumphant moment. Like what??
I'm straight and feel the very same way. the mom did exactly what the dad did to her or even worse cause the whole family and the audience thought Tim was dating Davy
Waisted 2 hours of my life on that movie
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So right. People still consuming the low budget presentations so there is no need to improve it. I recall an article where Tyler said he had issues working with union writers previously so just prefers to do it himself but I think it all has to do with him keeping more money for himself.
This. Tyler Perry saying, I don't care, do you?
But the mother sleeping with Davy, and keeping it a secret for two years - that was a violation on another level! And they just skate by it and say they it is okay? THAT RUINED THE FILM FOR ME. To be honest.
Because people are so judgemental these days! hell i would hide it too.
@@Dani-kf7tx but yet the dad was the villain
@@Dani-kf7txUm I sure as heck would judge if you’re smashing my best friend when he’s half your age, acting like it’s normal, and then trying to shame me for how I feel about the BS!
I just wasted almost 2 hours of my life on this movie last night so I couldn't wait to see y'all review. From the stupid opening scene I knew this would be bad. I usually love Mr.Brown (who doesn't age by the way lol) but him pouring gasoline on the grill and then being engulfed with flames has to be the dumbest thing ever. There's just so much wrong with the movie. Uncle Joe cringingly hitting on family, having issues with cops, mentioning burning down area's in protest, black lives matter, her son being gay, wyipepo coming in from Ireland and knickers being mistaken for umm you know, to the ex husband marrying the best friend and then the mom sleeping with her son's bestfriend... it's like what? Pick a struggle. I love Madea but sorry he should have left her in retirement. We've been saying he needs to hire a director, a writer and a stylist for his horrible wigs for YEARS but he wants all the money lol. I know he see's our reviews and he doesn't care. The original valedictorian speech looked like it was an essay that he tore up immediately, his speech was horrible and over the top. The acting was terrible. We're suppose to believe these two "best friends" who were in basically every scene together, I'm guessing to make us believe they were a thing and was never apart, that Davi found time to sleep around with his mom and he never caught on? Yeah ok. The way Davi was so upset with Tim's dad, more so than Tim or the mom... was so laughable. I'm here like why are you so mad? You were sleeping with her while she was married and got the girl, why you mad he left his family? lmao so dumb. Then imagine a grown ass man about to be forced to move back to Ireland against his will...ewww lmao, no ty. Then why did we need the great aunt and cousin or whatever she was? They couldn't just play his mom and gramdma? The relationship was weird as well as them just showing up and it wasn't even funny. I guess Tyler was trying to add Agnes fans to his fan list? Just weird. Hmmmm...what else? OH! The transitions were HORRIBLE... when they were leaving the park and the basketball bounced I was like wtf? Is someone else in the park? But nope it was another dumb transition lmao. Throw the entire concept and movie away, not believable AT ALL. The mom was so boring and just accepted everything and I'm sick of Madea's long drawn out conversations about finding and giving love. I'm like if she hasn't learned anything about love at 40 then stop, that's a speech for someone just learning to navigate through life 🤣sorry this is so loooong it's just so much to tear apart here 🤣...ok the end, 1 out of 5.
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Exactly! You said everything I was thinking. This movie was such a mess. The beginning with Mr. Brown being on fire was dumb and I knew from there this film was not going to be good. However, I became more interested when I learned that there was a gay couple finally in a Madea movie only to find out later they aren't even a couple and one of them is straight and dating the other guy's mom. So disappointing.
"A future isn't a future without a past" ..so deep 😄🤪
And the mom was 15 when she had Tim? So did her and Tim's dad get married underage? I was confused with that too.
"a future isn't a future without a past" -a tagline for every Batman movie😂
I liked "Diary of a Mad..", "I Can Do Bad..", and "Family Reunion", mostly bc of the way in which SA was addressed, and how wonderfully the incomparable Cecily Tyson taught ppl to have self-respect. When Perry leaned fully into the character of Madea for "Witness Protection", that's when I stopped watching, and was grateful to hear he'd stopped making these.. caricatures. I agree with Joseph; this seems dated, and I'm surprised he made another one. Thanks for the nuanced take, guys!
I think the best visual and story was probably The family that preys. The acting was so much better. I agree it's the same story kver and over.
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That's one of my favorites! I watch it every time it's on tv. I love how all of the disparate plots fold into one another, and the use of "I Hope You Dance" as a bellwether.
Unfortunately I gave up looking for any meaning, relevance, significance - and shall I add, Plot - in Tyler Perry’s movies ages ago and expect nothing more than a lite ki-ki at best🤷🏾♀️
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That storyline was so weird about the boyfriend and his mom.
Child dat boy was gay as he'll
My confusion about the relationship between Davi and Tim, I feel, comes from the fact that my straight male friends couldn’t care less if I’m out to my family or not.
Joseph has seen more Madea movies than me 😂😂😂😂
Joseph said everything that I have thought for so long,it’s as if Tyler Perry is confusing stupid with funny, i would love to see Tyler Perry do standup to realise how awful his jokes land.Imagine in concert for 1 night Eddie Murphy David Chapelle and Tyler Perry, I would catchup on sleep during Tyler perrys set.
I get you, but to be fair he's not presenting himself as a standup and would be out of his element as most of us would be bomb too😂 But he's just isn't funny
Tyler is a billionaire! He doesn't need to make movies like this anymore!
I agree. He needs to retire.
I was really against the way that Tim’s feelings in the movie were shoved aside and how he just went along with it…like the message that was being pushed in that storyline was really dumb imo
That's the life of a black man.
Omg..I couldn't take any notes because it was so stupid. I literally choked LMAO thanks for the reviews they are wonderful.
The movie was over for me once the misdirection played out. It felt like a total half measure to the LGBTQ plot line. Like I was a little offended tbh.
I didn't laugh once. TP has bragged about how quickly he writes these stories. It shows in how derivative the story is. TP is making the same film on repeat.
I decided that after a few laughs I cussed and fussed about the storyline only to realize that it's not worth it when it comes to Tyler. At this point he won't even bother to get a writing partner because he doesn't want to be involved with unions in case you guys didn't know this. And I think you guys articulated this very well.❤️
As a young gay black man, I was definitely disappointed with the story line. This movie did not do the gay character justice. Tyler Perry should have let them just be a couple and not have included the weird creepy love triangle with the mom. It was all so messy and unnecessary.
I agree with everything Joseph said, and you opened my eyes to some things I hadn't thought of.
Great, thoughtful review! Hope you guys continue to feel better!
That was a perfect and insightful review. Oh the wasted potential. I’ve never watched a Madea movie. Only thing I’ve seen him in Is Gone Girl and he was very good. He’s very talented and a kind man from what I know. Y’all are right-he needs writers and directors.
Your face in the thumbnail says it all 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The only Madea movie I actually liked, was Family Reunion. I guess it’s because she was barely in it? I didn’t bother watching the last few of them. I did have to suffer through BOO!, one holiday with the family and it was trash.
Funny review. Joseph always being shady, That poor lady looked so crazy! 🤣
Hope you both feel 100% soon. ❤️❤️
Need to change the title to Madea HomeWrecking
Yeah he needs new writers because at this point the scripts are recycled. This is the same plot on the last play Madea’s Farewell. Exactly the same thing happens with the son and best friend where everyone thinks they’re lovers but turns out that the mom and friend are dating, and his dad is trash and getting married to her best friend who was the lawyer over the divorce. He needs to do better at this point lol
That’s what he does though. He creates Movies from his plays. I thought it was a known thing?
almost all his movies were plays before. he’s a playwright first.
Y’all was speaking facts, this movie was so bad. Tyler Perry movies have gotten worse each new movie.
He’s spends more on wigs and makeup than on his sets smh
The fact that this movie is #1 on Netflix today is exactly why the quality will never improve. I find his movies to be insulting to black people in that he feels the majority of us will just accept anything, regardless of quality.
Yes
its not about the quality its about the message
I don't see Tayler Perry changing how he make his movies anytime soon. He has made millions out of stereotypes of Black people, especially the "angry Black woman" one, thus he has no motivation to change. After hearing you guys give the story, I realize that this script comes from an actual play of his. The movie is as bad as the play.
Honestly, from what I heard the play is much better as the characters have much more depth to them
@@kamalnewson1625 I watched the play, and no, it is no better than the movie.
I still got my Netflix subscription & the Madea movies has a special place in my heart. I’d probably see this one, FJ. Great review, tho🧡🧡
You said the best part is the end credits lmao
Enjoyed this commentary! Great points!
It felt like the movie focus of Tim's POV/main plot was pushed to the sidelines in a way, once it became more and more obvious that there was something between Davi and his mom, and once he came out.
I agree with everything you both said, and I wish the movie wasn't made at all! Lol
I was so surprised to see Mrs. Brown in this film. I don’t feel they wrote Brendan O’Carroll’s scenes well because if you’ve ever seen a Mrs. Brown episode you’d be rolling off your arse!
And why does Madea have the best wig out of everyone? Who is buying those cheap wigs for the actors?
Just wanted to add that I read that Spike and Tyler now have a more congenial relationship after Spike went to visit him and they had a long discussion. Also wondering about Tyler’s strategy to make this film R rated and having a gay themed plot line. Wondering how his much more conservative fans will react to this. I’m thinking he doesn’t really care and may be moving toward “someday” coming out of that closet. Here’s hoping 🤞 for his sake.
The fact that he ripped his speech & then starts putting the family on blast had me like, "Okay wtf!?!?" He could have did that in private. Then there's the whole subplot of Joe being pissed his niece is a cop went nowhere also unnesscary. But other than that I thought it was pretty funny
omg its a movie and i think that it just made the movie more emotional and basically recaps the movie
About the progression one character comes out as gay, and his friend is secretly dating his mom his family accepts him as gay, but he can't accept his mom and friend being together who's a younger man. I like the juicey tea being spilled.
Greendale had a valedictorian - maybe it's community college 😅
Speed racing to click on this!🏃🏾♂️
I was hoping y’all would clear up when did Cora ever have a man? When did she ever have kids ? Why is this the first time we are hearing about this ?
Good point...there's so much that doesn't make sense. Cora's love life didn't register lol
In the plays she has two daughters. Always have.
Liked for "Premise:Madea's back halelujer."
Edit: I love how Tyler Perry's projects to some people, Blacks especially, are what comic book movies are to people like Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola. 😆. (EDIT 2) Like Joseph's quote about how Black filmmakers feel anout his work. I think the last work of his I saw was For colored Girls or the Family that Preys whatever, the one with Kathy Bates and Sanaa Lathan. I knew his shtick and wasn't into it thus not looked forward to seeing any of his current stuff.
I missed you two! LOL ... I respect Tyler and what he has built - but I thought after Don't Look Up he would take more risks. I like Madea - not all of them (love the Halloween films). This sounds like he went backwards ... not forwards.
Agreed
I’m surprised y’all didn’t mention the Rosa Parks scene. That was….Whew Chile 😂💀
I know. We did talk about it on the podcast though.
I saw that you guys had done the review but I hadn't watched the movie yet. I just finished watching it and I have one lingering question. Why was this movie even made??? Why! Why! Why! So many unnecessary characters. Such a waste of a plot 🙄
What in the hell is the "Eat, Drink, Man, Woman + How Stella Got Her Groove Back " Bullllllllllshiiiiiite did Tyler write, Lord Jesus!! Tyler NEEDS NEW WRITERS and put his ego in the drawer for once!! AMEN BLACK FOLKS NEED THERAPY too...let me just pour the rest of this wine in this glass....
Yes we do have valedictorians at college/university.
Tyler been a problem since day one. The stereotypes of Black Americans in his plays and movies are damaging af. This is precisely the reason he blew up in Hollywood. A co-worker introduced me to his plays on DVD. She was of the Black church. The support from women in the Black church put him on the map. Just foolishness from the getgo. 🤦🏾♀️ smdh
I was bout to say church people really made Tyler Perry famous. I guess they look pass the foolishness for the messages🤷♂️ All the while he's making fun of people lol
@@babytoshiro7014 Comedy is supposed to be funny and sometimes he is but mostly he's not. Like Joseph said he needs to improve these damn scripts. I watch A Fall From Grace when I want to laugh but not for the reasons Tyler intended.
@@loism8645 Yes lol😂
Hope you feel better soon.
What The F...Hell??? Why does Perry keep getting worst?!?!? Im so disgusted!!!!!
I have enjoyed some other Tyler Perry movies and have never been able to bring myself to watch a Madea movie.
I’m shocked bc this is the first madea movie I’ve enjoyed in over 10 years but I agree with the story telling… not well done (but that’s just him). Especially the part with the mom and son situation.. like why
Tyler Perry getting more writers and directors would mean he would lose out on making more money for himself, if he is the writer, director and producer he can collect all of the coins smh
Just greedy
Tyler’s demographic just really confuses me it once claimed to be for Christian folks, as a lot of his stuff attempted moral lessons with a churchy focus, and yet…? I’m really confused on what he’s all about and what he’s trying to create and for whom
I would rather watch paint dry then then watch any of the Tyler Perry movies....How the fuck do these movies make any money..Is there really a following....Im in shock..Its like watching Adam Sandler garbage but at least he gets different directors for his cash grab..
I LOVE Madea and have seen all her movies but I have got to say this movie is by far the worst Madea movie and is honestly an embrassment next to the likes of Diary Of A Mad Black Woman,Madea's Family Reunion & Madea Goes To Jail...This movie made me cringe so many times and I wanted to like it but it was just so tacky,weird and poorly acted! The only saving grace was Madea herself...
The only thing I ask of tyler perry is better wigs!!!!
plz I’m fine with all the other shenanigans I just cant stand some of the wigs he throws on some actors sometimes 😭
Adam Sandler vs Tyler Perry. Who's movies are more bootleg and unwatchable?
I gave this movie 10 mins...then turned tv off...omg.....NO!
Maybe I misheard it (I was half paying attention as it went on), but doesn't the mom say she's 12 years older than her son's friend? How old was she when she had her son??
What I was confused on is that aunt bam was like "when did your man and best friend find the time to hook up when she was helping you with your divorce?"
Well.. if the mom and davi can hook up for 2 years, idk 2 years aunt bam?
Right
Watched the movie before watching this review. I watched the 1st 20 minutes and skipped to the last 5.
Joseph. Rest easy. Nobody looks back at Stepin Fetchit and thinks that's what black people are like except the brighter Klan members. The Madea movies will retreat to that same "Movies to watch when you're f*cked up" glory except Perry's movies might actually kill ya buzz. Thanks for the review. 😉
This was AWFUL! Never watching anything of Tyler Perry again😠
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Didn't this fool say he was done making Madea movies after that Madea's Farewell or whatever?
Watching Madea is a salve on watching the brutal murders in Ukraine, no matter how bad the writing.....it's like a giant rolled joint for mental logic..
Great video guys instant follow didn’t follow you before this but will while watching this but Mr. Joseph I know Tyler Perry’s films may not be your favorite but do people tell you you look literally just like him like you literally look like you could be his brother or some thing you don’t take this offensive because you’re very handsome you just look like Tyler Perry to me
I’ve never been told that, but thank you for the compliment.
Tyler Perry is great at playing Madea, but he is a terrible writer.
Was Agnes Brown...the one with Tom Jones?
Aunt Bam is the worst
I liked the Rosa Park story telling time. Probably the best part
Brendan Ocarroll*
I liked his plays which my niece watched constantly. Other than that, I just don't think his work is that great. Plus, he refuses to grow as an artist and you can tell by his work.
One interesting thing I did learn was the Mrs. Brown character was inspired by the English version of Madea which I found interesting.
Looks like a dud. Love when you review movies you don’t like.
😂😂 Everyone has an opinion, but not everyone has the LARGEST STUDIO & PRODUCTION COMPANY in Hollywood built by 1 character 😂😂 I'm also sure when Tyler is cashing his paycheck from Netflix he's not thinking about anyone's TH-cam reviews on what has gained him a billion dollars 😂😂 Ya'll get to just 1million subscribers & then Tyler still won't know you exist 😂😂. Best of Luck to the both of you😂😂😂😂
We’ll never have as many subscribers as these emojis you like to use.
@@fishjellyfilmreviews 😂😂😂😂
Truth stings, it's ok apparently so does 😂😂😂😂😂
Tyler should care about his fans and the people viewing his movies.
@@michellinasandiego2015 😂😂His Fans aren't fault finding & complaining. Only the haters are doing that😂 & I addressed the haters with facts. This response is an example of such address 😂
Movie sucked, period.
Was a what the f movie
Haters
2032 haha Joseph "He'll come out" Lmao, omg you guys are the best reviewers on TH-cam. Love ya'll💯
But both your commentary about this TP movies, in general is on point.
It feels like Tyler Perry just makes movies for Oprah and his celebrity friends and no one has the heart to tell him they suck. 🤷♀️