I was in Jersey in 1992 or 91, doesn't matter...and someone's car alarm kept going off and someone threw a pair of pliers and cracked the front of the windshield, lol
Also the fact that romantic comedies are the lowest of the low as far as views goes in genre's. Another contributing factor is romantic comedies Targeted audience are women in relationships that end up dragging their boyfriends along. Also this time of the year is the WORST time to release movies.
@@machoman6969 noooo I think you were just bored and felt like gatekeeping. I mean stop and think how silly it sounds to only watch movies that directly relate to you. The dude is just critiquing movies like every one does after watching, let him live lol.
@@shanetaylor761 "gatekeeping" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 think for a moment how silly and privileged you sound considering I have to look very hard to find any new gay movies being released in a str8 world.
@@machoman6969 so because you don't get properly represented in media you have more of a right to be snobby about who's opinions matter? I don't see the correlation please explain. I mean if you just said flat out bad opinion or explained what someone's missing not being gay id understand you but you decide to just word things you're not gay so this movie isn't for you. Mean while the creators made it for every one and there's plenty of quotes to show that. Your idea of Privileged is a little dramatic. I'm black and I always wanted to see more black characters growing up. Now I get to see that and that's great. My goal was never to have more representation so I could tell other races they can't watch it. That's weird and creates a divide where otherwise you could find common ground. Ima agree to disagree with you on this one lol.
I’m so happy someone said that about Billy’s character. The trailer turned me off because of that. And then Billy had the audacity to say “this will be the biggest movie to inspire Gay youths”…mmkay.
I'm 60 and a Black Homosexual. Thank you for the best review of this movie I've seen. If I want to see the events in this movie I just have to go back to West Hollywood. And Billy Echnir is the screaming goats from the last Thor movie.
LOL! Yes, I caught that, too. The fact is that the movie is made by a gay white man, and he told his story from his point of view. Joseph is free to go out there and make the movie he wants to see. It's fine that neither one of them liked the movie because they thought Eichner's character was annoying, or they thought the movie wasn't funny--but I feel like they are attacking the audience that liked the film. Eichner is being called out by other reviewers for attacking people who didn't like the film or don't want to see it. Damn, I guess all Eichner succeeded in doing is creating a very divisive movie!
@@scottarooni yeah my thoughts exactly. The points they bring all sounds way too personal and if they don't like how city gay white men's perspectives and insecurities are being portrayed, they can make a movie themselves!
@@kagoon0709 honestly I don't think the large majority of his comments where personal. They both did a really good job explaining their specific gripes with characters and how the movie comes across. I just thought the saying white men part was kinda lame. You could tell that was a smirk of relating to what he meant(hence him also nodding) but also thinking he wishes he didn't say that lol. I can't help think he really was being honest about his perspective but it came off a little hateful. Minus the race thing though he was describing a unlikable main character. Some movies make that work and sometimes it rubs the viewer the wrong way. I mean this is supposed to be a landmark movie for gay people so when you see the poster boy mirrors alot of the more vapid parts of your culture and the cast is diverse to the point of cringe I can understand the disappointment.
That's understanding., for not a single second did Nick think Joseph was talking about him but the "issue". That level of unbridled communication is the aspiration of good love and openness. I love it.
Excellent remark. Let’s have fun... A. “We love your optimism” B. “I need your optimism” Which one is persuasive to you ? Which one is meaningful to me ?
Joseph's rant within those first 4 mins had me in shambles 🤣He was OVER this movie! While Nick's facial expressions were equally hilarious in response to Joseph's exacerbation 😂 I love ya'll DOWN! Please keep up these passionate, intelligent and thoughtful movie reviews.
They could make a comedy of the struggling board trying to make an LGBT museum that makes justice to the community to talk about unity within the community with the ride of gay trauma. They could make a romcom between a man who has fought against everyone to allow himself to be the way he is who falls in love with someone who is trying to be as masculine as possible and that generates the main conflict and the climax can be the family dinner and at the end it educates on being yourself and respect others and the main lead can finish his rightful romcom screenplay based on his story. We could make a satire criticizing the need to stereotype everyone in the dating scene or be a heartfelt comedy on educating the straight best friend on diverse families. Instead Bros is like mushing all the playdoh colors into one gray blob, mashing the pitch of 5 good movies into one bad one.
Eichner wrote it, and starred in it. Even in the promos with Luke, he doesn't allow Luke to speak. I agree that he IS the problem. The problem with Bros is that it would be funny if it weren't true. I actually think Jimmy Fowlie and Brian Jordan Alvarez do a better job of capturing the issues. Thanks for your review.
I agree. At first i thought Luke is very shy and the type of person who dont talk a lot, but after i watch his interview alone or with other people, i am shocked that he is way more talkative and quite a funny guy. Maybe if Bobby is played by someone else, it would be more lovely to watch.
Joseph tell us how you really feel😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 i’m so here for this review. PS I love TS Madison she is hilarious and that is probably one reason I would watch this.
Billy Eichner is an aging gay man who never fit into any particular gay sexual archetype (bear, masc, etc.) which I guess is something gay men deal with, but the assertion that his own personal affliction with that is somehow supposed to be entertaining is lol. He seems very navel-gazing and conceited, as if him meandering about as a gay man is supposed to be entertaining in and of itself and we're supposed to care - this movie just seems like slop on a screen...but he was funny as hell in that Hulu series Difficult People.
My first impression of him from the trailers was negative. I just thought I don't like him for this--He seemed so crusty and annoying. And 2 see that character paired w/that hot guy...No thanks.
"I don't know that lady" 😆 While I agree with just about all the points you guys made, I honestly still had a pretty good time with the movie anyway. I thought a lot of the broad comedy worked. The marketing was all wrong and Billy should have stayed behind the scenes.
I finally watched the film and was left with these impressions: 1. I was saddened that Luke Macfarlane was reduced to “a body” for much of the film, 2. I feel like the script was written for characters in their 20s rather than in their 40s, and 3. Billy Eichner really needs a hug because I think the LGBT community is a substitute for family and validation for him (like he can’t exist without them).
So glad to know that other gay men find Billy loud and abrasive, and equally obnoxious. I seriously thought I was the only one. I don't see the appeal of him.
I'm a lesbian who's been a part of the community since 2001. I agree with every word that Nick & Joseph said. I appreciate the attempt of this movie & appreciate getting the studio film. I just hope we can evolve & do a little bit better with our films. Great video!! :)
I saw this at a screening in Burbank and the crowd was really digging in. It was a fun environment and I found myself laughing along despite a wholly unconvincing romance. I too was actively rooting against this couple, and thought it would be more subversive to allow the characters to realize they aren’t right for one another and find happiness elsewhere. I enjoyed everything outside of the love plot, which, in a romantic comedy, is maybe not the point… 🤷🏽♂️
Agree wholeheartedly with your observations. These two men in the real world would have hooked up once, and never spoke again. Gay men don't have a tolerance for high maintenance, insecure snobs
That´s how I felt about The Five Year Engagement which was also written and directed by Stoller. That couple were absolutely awful for each other so that gives me a lot of pause about this film.
“If you resemble one of these people, you probably would like this movie (which is what was in the audience)!” 😁 That really should be a pull-quote for the movie poster! The effortless shade! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm "straight"(Gynephiliac) but enjoy Rom Coms. Appreciated your review because you didn't hold back any criticisms just because it was a gay film. It shows you two have a lot of integrity and don't just go with public opinion. My two biggest gripes about this movie was Billy and the lack of chemistry. I watch rom coms to cheer on the protagonist getting with their love interest and this movie didn't make me wanna do that.
I totally love your honesty I find it very refreshing I hate when most people just follow what's popular or trending and are to afraid have an individual opinion with how they truly feel about things in life regardless of what that is thanks guys for the review 🤗 much respect your the best
Thank you guys for your review, I definitely feel like there are gay reviewers that are soft balling this movie to its detriment. I really appreciate your willingness to engage with the film as it is and acknowledge it’s flaws and blind spots, so hopefully the next gay studio movie is better. I saw this movie opening night with my boyfriend in Suburban WI, and it was so weird to have only 1 in 10 of all of the jokes actually land with the audience, your review made this whole moviegoing experience much more validating to me.
I LOVE THIS video. One of my favorite movies is Brokeback Mountain. Did they shove that in my face? Absolutely not. This movie was just Billy’s alter ego 🙄
100% Billy Eichner was the biggest problem with this movie. Forced, phony and unsympathetic. Yea it had funny bits, but it was a fail for us. Rent Big Eden.
Im glad I searched for a review and came across this- I finally watched the movie and felt uncomfortable the whole time. Of course I worried I was being too close minded since my dad mentioned some things to backfire my in time comments when I had to pause to gather my thoughts- he's an ally and I'm queer... He seemed to think this movie was good when I just... Didn't care about what happened to the characters until over an hour in. I was also bummed seeing Kristin Chenoweth appear but not feel like she really showed who she was in what little a role she had. I understand that sometimes you need characters to be unlikable in order for them to develop through the run time... But I felt this main character was just angry for the sake of being angry and I realistically would have just checked out early on rather than deal with his issues- I wanted to love this movie, so bad, with how fun the trailers made it... But even an entire day later, and I still feel uncomfortable. I couldn't even laugh at it to calm my nerves- I guess it's not my type of comedy and it didn't land well delivery wise. I hope that this is a step in the right direction in us getting more queer movies... I also hope that I'll like those in the future.
I think a limitation with regard to the marketing of this movie is that the selling point seems to be that that it's a gay rom-com rather than anything regarding the situation in which the characters find themselves. By contrast Fire Island or even traditional romcoms like Pretty Woman, Failure to Launch or whatever all have clear situational premises conveyed in their marketing
I thought their was so much potential in this movie. The part of the movie that resonated with me as a straight black women was his speech on confidence. I hated the way he marketed it because he kept wearing as a badge of honor that it was directed by a straight white man which brings up so many issues for me.
Amen everything to what Joseph said about gay white men in general, not all, but many. This movie seems.. just there. Thank you both for your review 💖💖🙏
Eventually got to see the movie. I've been looking forward to hearing your take more nearly as much as seeing the film itself. I admire your cahones for such an against-the-grain opinion.
Best review I have seen especially having the insight from two proudly gay men. I’m going to see this movie with my wife thank you for this review. Gives me an insight as a happily married man.
From the trailer "Too old to get in the pool" ;D It's like "branding" individuals, the story. It was one liners at every turn - I'd be 'overwhelmed' by all of it LOL! Enjoyed both of you breaking it, (the plot!), down neatly. Nice:)
I hated the trailer for this movie, and what I've seen is theatres filled with feminine men that go nuts over it. I get tired of us gay people being stereotyped by the movie industry, this seems to be an extreme case of it.
Appreciate this honest review. What rubbed me the wrong way about this movie is quite similar to what bothers me about shows like blackish. I don’t want to be taught a lesson, especially as someone apart of the community. Bird Cage is a good example about a queer story that’s very good and happens to be queer
I'm 20 minutes into the movie and all of the main character's interactions are boring, awkward or bitchy. Had to check in on reviews to see if it gets better.
Agree with you guys so much! I just watched it last night and I felt like if someone else had played the Billy Eichner character it would have been much more tolerable. Having said that, I echo with your thoughts and feelings about this film. I did really like Luke MacFarlane.I think he's not only pretty dreamy but also I thought he was a really solid actor and played it a really nice level unlike his co-star Eichner who played everything at the same level.
@ 0:49 took me out, I'm dead LOL. That unassuming shade was the best thing I've seen this year and the fact that Nick didn't even try to take the bait was even more priceless. New Subscriber because of this :P
I am watching this now, and I’m in agreement. I liked the supporting characters, but not the lead. It was like a caricature playing a character. He was so silly and extra, but not in the way that is entertaining. His posture is awkward and it was all too much and at the same time nothing. Aaron's character was annoying too. He had such a doofus voice. Like, dumb jock, duh - meets the Fonz. I didn’t dislike it entirely, but it wasn’t something I would be happy to have paid to see.
When I first saw the trailer, the only character I cared about was Aaron. He seemed likable enough. Everything else was annoying. I don't know if this makes sense, but Billy Eichner's character reminded me of Bella Swan from the Twilight movies, so I wanted him to shut up. Edit: Yes! When I saw the trailer, I thought, "Aaron deserves better!"
I respect this review so much, and y'all are so open to have different opinion...I love it. This film seriously jumped the shark early, the supporting cast didn't really have much to do, besides fall into their own represented tropes. Billy Eichner may be "funny" but he's cannot lead a film (atleast not yet), not to mention his character didn't grow on me at all. It was as they were trying to take this movie seriously but at the same time try to be a satire, which failed. Was there some laughs sure, but it didn't break the mold of Rom Coms, or cinema for that matter. Plus why the hell are they releasing this in October?? Seriously a missed opportunity....i'm actually excited for Spoiler Alert that comes out in December, with Jim parsons and Sally Field.
Haven't seen this yet, but seems similar to "This Is 40” ie very disconnected from most people's daily lives/struggles? (Judd Apatow involved in both films)
I'll wait till it's streaming. I was a fan of Looking, Queer as Folk, The Broken Hearts Club, & Gregg Araki films which judging by this review has done more for gay characters.
As a gay guy I have to say this film was the worst film ever, i was so cringe for billy!!! It took me over 7 hours to watch as i got so embarrassed that i kept pausing it and coming back as it was like a car crash I couldn’t walk away from. Billys character was why i stayed in the closet till i was 26
The film just does not ring true. Bobby is a toxic, bitter, draining, relentless, self-indulgent person and Aaron would quite rightly run a mile. Plus we all know Aaron WOULD end up with fellow jock Josh, as that is generally how gay matches work. And Bobby's behaviour in front of Aaron's parents was vile and inexcusable - and Aaron would most probably never forgive him. The film does have some nice moments but Billy Eichner is simply not charasmatic or funny enough to carry it and the endless politicization of eeeeeeeeeeeeverything in sight is dull, patronizing to much of the audience and exhausting.
The ~~best part of this messy ass movie is the fact they marketed as something REVOLUTIONARY lmao. I mean... girl, just watch some of john waters' movies than we can talk about it
I don't know about this review. I give you guys that, as opposed to all the other straight up hateful reviews just because they dislike Billy Eichner's tantrum tweet, you guys have more balanced starting point. But first off, I didn't think Bobby was particularly cringey or uncomfortable because that's a character he plays (as Billy did in his previous Hulu show literally called 'Difficult People') , and it was very obviously to draw a clear juxtaposition with the toned down and less fussy character of Aaron's. It is not so unrealistic for opposites to attract in real life nor in fictional world of rom com, where the narrative of two very different personalities coming together after struggles is common. The white privileged city gay life being unrelatable is a good point of view and I am glad you brought it up, since I myself am not white and I don't even live in the US, but it was not all that alien. Come on, young gay guys ghosting and not committing which gives you trust issues; having a body image issue; feeling of 'not being good enough'; challenges at work and trying to overcome jealousy while you know yourself falling in victim to it, they are all quite relatable. It's a comedy so it intends to exaggerate with Bobby's loud and comically belligerent voices to dramatize(which is perfectly allowed for films) the real life issues. I think the beauty of this film was being very open about these oftentimes unhealthy qualities and struggles contemporary gay men experience, and by no means condoning them because the audience can see Bobby suffers, but to understand them and recognize them. Not sure if people always expect Call Me By Your Name if there's gay romance in films, but if they do then that's their faults. Bros was aiming to be the gay version of Trainwreck and Bridesmaids, and it did pretty good job.
Nick's non-verbal responses to Joseph's critiques of the film are 1000 times more comedic than anything I saw in the trailer. Behavior always speaks way more than a tonne of shouting ever will and much is said in what is not said. I also hear Joseph about nuance, because outside of the US most people identify as their nationality/ethnicity and there is a lot of nuance to the bigotries you experience from other ethnicities/nationalities when you are the not the conventional WASP type or even if you are not part of the dominant culture of the country you reside. I get a little tired of US movies fixating on this homogenous black/white experience when it is so much nuanced than that. Anyway, I enjoyed the review, gentlemen. Probably my favorite alongside Chris Gore's who brings up a whole bunch of very different points.
I wanted this to be better, but I will still check it out when I need some laughs. I do think Billy Eichner is funny, but maybe in smaller doses? I also noticed in the trailer he looks much thinner than usual!
This movies sounds exactly what I think a white male version of the (Iranian lesbian) film "Appropriate Behavior" would be & I kind of want your thoughts on this
It's insane, I'm gay and I wanted to love this movie so so badly. I did enjoy some of Billy on the Streets segments but goddamn it, this was beyond awful. I cannot sit through the whole thing, one of the few times I actually dropped a movie halfway. The main character is so unlikable with no redeeming quality, essentially reading out articles headlines one after another at the loudest voice possible. Luke is great, love watching him in Brothers & Sisters, hopefully they paid him well doing this godawful movie.
Eichner is like the car alarm outside your house that no one stops until you just pass out from exhaustion.
😂😂😂😂😂
*Not exhaustion!!!!* 🤣😂😂🤣🤣
I couldn't stand him 🥺
I was in Jersey in 1992 or 91, doesn't matter...and someone's car alarm kept going off and someone threw a pair of pliers and cracked the front of the windshield, lol
@@tigerlilly9038 lmao!!!
" I don't know that lady"... I have fallen, and I can't get up.🤣
Same!
Movie sucked
I'm not gay. You gentlemen just tell the truth and make us happy. Gay movies have the same failures as other genres. Next.
Also the fact that romantic comedies are the lowest of the low as far as views goes in genre's. Another contributing factor is romantic comedies Targeted audience are women in relationships that end up dragging their boyfriends along. Also this time of the year is the WORST time to release movies.
"I'm not gay" the movie wasn't aimed at you honey.
@@machoman6969 noooo I think you were just bored and felt like gatekeeping. I mean stop and think how silly it sounds to only watch movies that directly relate to you. The dude is just critiquing movies like every one does after watching, let him live lol.
@@shanetaylor761 "gatekeeping" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 think for a moment how silly and privileged you sound considering I have to look very hard to find any new gay movies being released in a str8 world.
@@machoman6969 so because you don't get properly represented in media you have more of a right to be snobby about who's opinions matter? I don't see the correlation please explain. I mean if you just said flat out bad opinion or explained what someone's missing not being gay id understand you but you decide to just word things you're not gay so this movie isn't for you. Mean while the creators made it for every one and there's plenty of quotes to show that. Your idea of Privileged is a little dramatic. I'm black and I always wanted to see more black characters growing up. Now I get to see that and that's great. My goal was never to have more representation so I could tell other races they can't watch it. That's weird and creates a divide where otherwise you could find common ground. Ima agree to disagree with you on this one lol.
I’m so happy someone said that about Billy’s character. The trailer turned me off because of that. And then Billy had the audacity to say “this will be the biggest movie to inspire Gay youths”…mmkay.
Finally a none bias review of the film lets face it you guys have reviewer integrity good job.
And they’re the review that matters since they’re gay
Of course ! They’re gay. Let a straight person go see this movie and give this same honest review, they’re gonna be called homophobic 😂😂😂
@@megamoviez No since they can put there bias aside and review the content for what it is.
@@kaligath6616 I think if anything their perspective as gay men is the whole point: they are part of the audience and culture it is speaking on
Joseph is unapologetically STANK and I’m here for it! 😄
❤❤❤❤😅😅😅😅😂perfect
"He doesn't want a certain type of person to see this film" I guess that happened.
I'm 60 and a Black Homosexual. Thank you for the best review of this movie I've seen. If I want to see the events in this movie I just have to go back to West Hollywood. And Billy Echnir is the screaming goats from the last Thor movie.
That's cold. The goats carried that film. Eichner couldn't carry a tune if a knife point
I'm with you on seeing events like this in WEHO. When did you stomp the grounds of WEHO, might have met you?
Where did Bobby hurt you? 😂
@@machoman6969 I agree with Bobby, I'm sick of seeing these Bobby's, absolutely agree with him.😂
Nick’s smirk when Joseph says, “I’m just tired of gay white men”.
LOL! Yes, I caught that, too. The fact is that the movie is made by a gay white man, and he told his story from his point of view. Joseph is free to go out there and make the movie he wants to see. It's fine that neither one of them liked the movie because they thought Eichner's character was annoying, or they thought the movie wasn't funny--but I feel like they are attacking the audience that liked the film. Eichner is being called out by other reviewers for attacking people who didn't like the film or don't want to see it. Damn, I guess all Eichner succeeded in doing is creating a very divisive movie!
@@scottarooni yeah my thoughts exactly. The points they bring all sounds way too personal and if they don't like how city gay white men's perspectives and insecurities are being portrayed, they can make a movie themselves!
And I'm tired of st8 white men 😌
@@kagoon0709 honestly I don't think the large majority of his comments where personal. They both did a really good job explaining their specific gripes with characters and how the movie comes across. I just thought the saying white men part was kinda lame. You could tell that was a smirk of relating to what he meant(hence him also nodding) but also thinking he wishes he didn't say that lol. I can't help think he really was being honest about his perspective but it came off a little hateful. Minus the race thing though he was describing a unlikable main character. Some movies make that work and sometimes it rubs the viewer the wrong way. I mean this is supposed to be a landmark movie for gay people so when you see the poster boy mirrors alot of the more vapid parts of your culture and the cast is diverse to the point of cringe I can understand the disappointment.
That's understanding., for not a single second did Nick think Joseph was talking about him but the "issue". That level of unbridled communication is the aspiration of good love and openness. I love it.
"ultimately I think we can and will do better"
love that closing line
Excellent remark. Let’s have fun...
A. “We love your optimism”
B. “I need your optimism”
Which one is persuasive to you ? Which one is meaningful to me ?
Joseph's rant within those first 4 mins had me in shambles 🤣He was OVER this movie! While Nick's facial expressions were equally hilarious in response to Joseph's exacerbation 😂 I love ya'll DOWN! Please keep up these passionate, intelligent and thoughtful movie reviews.
They could make a comedy of the struggling board trying to make an LGBT museum that makes justice to the community to talk about unity within the community with the ride of gay trauma. They could make a romcom between a man who has fought against everyone to allow himself to be the way he is who falls in love with someone who is trying to be as masculine as possible and that generates the main conflict and the climax can be the family dinner and at the end it educates on being yourself and respect others and the main lead can finish his rightful romcom screenplay based on his story. We could make a satire criticizing the need to stereotype everyone in the dating scene or be a heartfelt comedy on educating the straight best friend on diverse families. Instead Bros is like mushing all the playdoh colors into one gray blob, mashing the pitch of 5 good movies into one bad one.
Eichner wrote it, and starred in it. Even in the promos with Luke, he doesn't allow Luke to speak. I agree that he IS the problem. The problem with Bros is that it would be funny if it weren't true. I actually think Jimmy Fowlie and Brian Jordan Alvarez do a better job of capturing the issues. Thanks for your review.
I agree. At first i thought Luke is very shy and the type of person who dont talk a lot, but after i watch his interview alone or with other people, i am shocked that he is way more talkative and quite a funny guy. Maybe if Bobby is played by someone else, it would be more lovely to watch.
Joseph tell us how you really feel😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 i’m so here for this review. PS I love TS Madison she is hilarious and that is probably one reason I would watch this.
Billy Eichner is an aging gay man who never fit into any particular gay sexual archetype (bear, masc, etc.) which I guess is something gay men deal with, but the assertion that his own personal affliction with that is somehow supposed to be entertaining is lol. He seems very navel-gazing and conceited, as if him meandering about as a gay man is supposed to be entertaining in and of itself and we're supposed to care - this movie just seems like slop on a screen...but he was funny as hell in that Hulu series Difficult People.
@@jae5103 how do you mean?
My first impression of him from the trailers was negative. I just thought I don't like him for this--He seemed so crusty and annoying. And 2 see that character paired w/that hot guy...No thanks.
My wife and I love your commentary- you’re both awesome ❤
"I don't know that lady" 😆 While I agree with just about all the points you guys made, I honestly still had a pretty good time with the movie anyway. I thought a lot of the broad comedy worked. The marketing was all wrong and Billy should have stayed behind the scenes.
I finally watched the film and was left with these impressions: 1. I was saddened that Luke Macfarlane was reduced to “a body” for much of the film, 2. I feel like the script was written for characters in their 20s rather than in their 40s, and 3. Billy Eichner really needs a hug because I think the LGBT community is a substitute for family and validation for him (like he can’t exist without them).
I can only handle Billy in 15 minute doses😂
So glad to know that other gay men find Billy loud and abrasive, and equally obnoxious. I seriously thought I was the only one. I don't see the appeal of him.
I'm a lesbian who's been a part of the community since 2001. I agree with every word that Nick & Joseph said. I appreciate the attempt of this movie & appreciate getting the studio film. I just hope we can evolve & do a little bit better with our films. Great video!! :)
I saw this at a screening in Burbank and the crowd was really digging in. It was a fun environment and I found myself laughing along despite a wholly unconvincing romance. I too was actively rooting against this couple, and thought it would be more subversive to allow the characters to realize they aren’t right for one another and find happiness elsewhere. I enjoyed everything outside of the love plot, which, in a romantic comedy, is maybe not the point… 🤷🏽♂️
Agree wholeheartedly with your observations. These two men in the real world would have hooked up once, and never spoke again. Gay men don't have a tolerance for high maintenance, insecure snobs
@@Johnnyiswhere aren't a lot of queens together and high maintenance
@@mariahwhitneycelinejanetmadona yes, but they aren’t dating each other
That´s how I felt about The Five Year Engagement which was also written and directed by Stoller. That couple were absolutely awful for each other so that gives me a lot of pause about this film.
“If you resemble one of these people, you probably would like this movie (which is what was in the audience)!”
😁 That really should be a pull-quote for the movie poster! The effortless shade! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm "straight"(Gynephiliac) but enjoy Rom Coms. Appreciated your review because you didn't hold back any criticisms just because it was a gay film. It shows you two have a lot of integrity and don't just go with public opinion. My two biggest gripes about this movie was Billy and the lack of chemistry. I watch rom coms to cheer on the protagonist getting with their love interest and this movie didn't make me wanna do that.
So... you're straight. Why put it in quotations? You're straight... and you like vag. That's kinda part of the deal.
I’m a staunch leftist gay guy and I hated this movie. It was genuinely painful to watch.
I appreciate y'alls honesty about white lgbtqa folks who complain but do exercise so much access and privilege.
I totally love your honesty I find it very refreshing I hate when most people just follow what's popular or trending and are to afraid have an individual opinion with how they truly feel about things in life regardless of what that is thanks guys for the review 🤗 much respect your the best
I'm gay guy from India, and I love you both as pair for opinions..
(Really liked the opinions of Joseph)
“Who hurt his mouth that’s why he look bad” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂WHY!
It’s so funny. Most of your reviews are “I wish this was this other movie instead of this movie.” Cracks me up.
This is by far the best review I have seen of this movie. Can’t wait to check out some other reviews.
Billy's character actually tried to hit on a POC Gym Bro in the movie.
and failed.
baddly.
which was hilarious.
Have we told you today how much we appreciate you both?
I died!!!! "I don't know that lady!!!!!"
Thank you guys for your review, I definitely feel like there are gay reviewers that are soft balling this movie to its detriment. I really appreciate your willingness to engage with the film as it is and acknowledge it’s flaws and blind spots, so hopefully the next gay studio movie is better. I saw this movie opening night with my boyfriend in Suburban WI, and it was so weird to have only 1 in 10 of all of the jokes actually land with the audience, your review made this whole moviegoing experience much more validating to me.
I LOVE THIS video. One of my favorite movies is Brokeback Mountain. Did they shove that in my face? Absolutely not. This movie was just Billy’s alter ego 🙄
I need that deleted scene where Bobby gives Aaron chlamydia and he can’t get a hold of his ass to tell him he need to get tested.
100% Billy Eichner was the biggest problem with this movie. Forced, phony and unsympathetic. Yea it had funny bits, but it was a fail for us. Rent Big Eden.
I really need two merch shirts:
"The Basic Story Is..."
&
"It All Culminates When..."
We can get into it...
@@infinite_crew95 oh of course, yes!!!
I want “The End”!
"Should I just go through my notes?"
And….”fine, do you have something else to add? No, ok probó x below…”😂
Joseph 😂 “Let’s get into it “deep dive cause you said it 10 times before the four minute mark . Oh child I knew this movie was in trouble😂😂
Eichner has one of those faces that just attracts fists 👊
Im glad I searched for a review and came across this- I finally watched the movie and felt uncomfortable the whole time. Of course I worried I was being too close minded since my dad mentioned some things to backfire my in time comments when I had to pause to gather my thoughts- he's an ally and I'm queer... He seemed to think this movie was good when I just... Didn't care about what happened to the characters until over an hour in. I was also bummed seeing Kristin Chenoweth appear but not feel like she really showed who she was in what little a role she had.
I understand that sometimes you need characters to be unlikable in order for them to develop through the run time... But I felt this main character was just angry for the sake of being angry and I realistically would have just checked out early on rather than deal with his issues- I wanted to love this movie, so bad, with how fun the trailers made it... But even an entire day later, and I still feel uncomfortable. I couldn't even laugh at it to calm my nerves- I guess it's not my type of comedy and it didn't land well delivery wise. I hope that this is a step in the right direction in us getting more queer movies... I also hope that I'll like those in the future.
I think a limitation with regard to the marketing of this movie is that the selling point seems to be that that it's a gay rom-com rather than anything regarding the situation in which the characters find themselves. By contrast Fire Island or even traditional romcoms like Pretty Woman, Failure to Launch or whatever all have clear situational premises conveyed in their marketing
Even the trailer failed to me. So surely the movie itself wouldn't water. Joseph called it with this one.
"In the tradition of Garth Brooks" Omg hilarious!
This is a very insightful and important review - a persuasive gay commentary on a superficial gay trope.
I’m not gay…but thank you for giving a fair honest realistic review of this movie
How did it take me so long to find you guys? New favorite channel.
the writing is crunchy-i am subcribed!!
I thought their was so much potential in this movie. The part of the movie that resonated with me as a straight black women was his speech on confidence. I hated the way he marketed it because he kept wearing as a badge of honor that it was directed by a straight white man which brings up so many issues for me.
Facts were spitted.
"I don't know that lady..."
funny.
"Maybe I'm just tired of gay white men.."
Just to say, I AM a gay white man and I'm tired of them also.
why are you tired of them?
Amen everything to what Joseph said about gay white men in general, not all, but many. This movie seems.. just there. Thank you both for your review 💖💖🙏
As I’m watching this video an ad pops up…
“CATCH THE FUNNIEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR (Bros) BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE”
Can’t make this shit up
Eventually got to see the movie. I've been looking forward to hearing your take more nearly as much as seeing the film itself. I admire your cahones for such an against-the-grain opinion.
Best review I have seen especially having the insight from two proudly gay men. I’m going to see this movie with my wife thank you for this review. Gives me an insight as a happily married man.
The only scene I felt represented was the lady who struggled docking the Citibike in the station. Period.
😮💨@ “I don’t know that lady”. Lol
This sounds really spot on. I moved to San Francisco and I was extremely disappointed to have all of the experiences that you called out🤷🏾♂️
From the trailer "Too old to get in the pool" ;D It's like "branding" individuals, the story. It was one liners at every turn - I'd be 'overwhelmed' by all of it LOL! Enjoyed both of you breaking it, (the plot!), down neatly. Nice:)
I hated the trailer for this movie, and what I've seen is theatres filled with feminine men that go nuts over it. I get tired of us gay people being stereotyped by the movie industry, this seems to be an extreme case of it.
Appreciate this honest review. What rubbed me the wrong way about this movie is quite similar to what bothers me about shows like blackish. I don’t want to be taught a lesson, especially as someone apart of the community. Bird Cage is a good example about a queer story that’s very good and happens to be queer
I'm 20 minutes into the movie and all of the main character's interactions are boring, awkward or bitchy. Had to check in on reviews to see if it gets better.
Joseph is 100% spot on in that this movie would've worked better as a parody.
This movie was awful to me. Such insulting stereotypes. Frankly it was like Gay Pride weekend in Palm Springs at a Ramada Inn
Finally a good review of this!! Cant believe i saw so many ppl falling for this studio bs
I was not prepared for you to say this man makes you uncomfortable 😭
*I just stopped by to give you two a THUMBS👍🏽UP..... I'll be back to listen to the review!* 🎬
Agree with you guys so much! I just watched it last night and I felt like if someone else had played the Billy Eichner character it would have been much more tolerable. Having said that, I echo with your thoughts and feelings about this film. I did really like Luke MacFarlane.I think he's not only pretty dreamy but also I thought he was a really solid actor and played it a really nice level unlike his co-star Eichner who played everything at the same level.
@ 0:49 took me out, I'm dead LOL. That unassuming shade was the best thing I've seen this year and the fact that Nick didn't even try to take the bait was even more priceless. New Subscriber because of this :P
I feel like Hollywood does a lot of surface level diverse movies but nothing deeper
"this is very Woody Allen in New York." Thank for putting a nail in the coffin for me, I don't need to see this.
It would have been even more realistic if they showed Billy's character searching for BBC on Jack'd and Grind'r.
I am watching this now, and I’m in agreement. I liked the supporting characters, but not the lead. It was like a caricature playing a character. He was so silly and extra, but not in the way that is entertaining. His posture is awkward and it was all too much and at the same time nothing.
Aaron's character was annoying too. He had such a doofus voice. Like, dumb jock, duh - meets the Fonz.
I didn’t dislike it entirely, but it wasn’t something I would be happy to have paid to see.
When I first saw the trailer, the only character I cared about was Aaron. He seemed likable enough. Everything else was annoying. I don't know if this makes sense, but Billy Eichner's character reminded me of Bella Swan from the Twilight movies, so I wanted him to shut up.
Edit: Yes! When I saw the trailer, I thought, "Aaron deserves better!"
Your honest review of this film was refreshing.
I respect this review so much, and y'all are so open to have different opinion...I love it.
This film seriously jumped the shark early, the supporting cast didn't really have much to do, besides fall into their own represented tropes.
Billy Eichner may be "funny" but he's cannot lead a film (atleast not yet), not to mention his character didn't grow on me at all. It was as they were trying to take this movie seriously but at the same time try to be a satire, which failed. Was there some laughs sure, but it didn't break the mold of Rom Coms, or cinema for that matter. Plus why the hell are they releasing this in October??
Seriously a missed opportunity....i'm actually excited for Spoiler Alert that comes out in December, with Jim parsons and Sally Field.
Haven't seen this yet, but seems similar to "This Is 40” ie very disconnected from most people's daily lives/struggles? (Judd Apatow involved in both films)
Thanks for the review gentlemen. I think I’m going to skip this one
The beating us into submission -- totally felt that !!!
Thank👏you👏!!! (For calling out the privilege:)
Luke MacFarlane was first in the ABC series Brothers and Sisters, loved him in that. Love him in Hallmark too!!
I'll wait till it's streaming. I was a fan of Looking, Queer as Folk, The Broken Hearts Club, & Gregg Araki films which judging by this review has done more for gay characters.
Broken Hearts Club was so good!
I am SO excited for this review. I also can't wait for yall to review Smile!
Would love to hear you guys review Uncoupled on Netflix with Neil Patrick Harris.
is it good?? i love me some Barney ✨
I binged uncoupled and it was fun
Yeah it is really good. Know they don’t normally do shows but I think it’d be great to hear what they think
It's a good one. Actually, miles better than Bros.
As a gay guy I have to say this film was the worst film ever, i was so cringe for billy!!! It took me over 7 hours to watch as i got so embarrassed that i kept pausing it and coming back as it was like a car crash I couldn’t walk away from. Billys character was why i stayed in the closet till i was 26
I love the T.S. Madison and Lawrence backdrop. 💛💛💛
The film just does not ring true. Bobby is a toxic, bitter, draining, relentless, self-indulgent person and Aaron would quite rightly run a mile. Plus we all know Aaron WOULD end up with fellow jock Josh, as that is generally how gay matches work. And Bobby's behaviour in front of Aaron's parents was vile and inexcusable - and Aaron would most probably never forgive him. The film does have some nice moments but Billy Eichner is simply not charasmatic or funny enough to carry it and the endless politicization of eeeeeeeeeeeeverything in sight is dull, patronizing to much of the audience and exhausting.
Perfect summary.
You guys may be the only movie reviewers with integrity.
The ~~best part of this messy ass movie is the fact they marketed as something REVOLUTIONARY lmao. I mean... girl, just watch some of john waters' movies than we can talk about it
I'm watching months months after forcing myself to watch this. ........Exactly.
I don't know about this review. I give you guys that, as opposed to all the other straight up hateful reviews just because they dislike Billy Eichner's tantrum tweet, you guys have more balanced starting point. But first off, I didn't think Bobby was particularly cringey or uncomfortable because that's a character he plays (as Billy did in his previous Hulu show literally called 'Difficult People') , and it was very obviously to draw a clear juxtaposition with the toned down and less fussy character of Aaron's. It is not so unrealistic for opposites to attract in real life nor in fictional world of rom com, where the narrative of two very different personalities coming together after struggles is common.
The white privileged city gay life being unrelatable is a good point of view and I am glad you brought it up, since I myself am not white and I don't even live in the US, but it was not all that alien. Come on, young gay guys ghosting and not committing which gives you trust issues; having a body image issue; feeling of 'not being good enough'; challenges at work and trying to overcome jealousy while you know yourself falling in victim to it, they are all quite relatable. It's a comedy so it intends to exaggerate with Bobby's loud and comically belligerent voices to dramatize(which is perfectly allowed for films) the real life issues.
I think the beauty of this film was being very open about these oftentimes unhealthy qualities and struggles contemporary gay men experience, and by no means condoning them because the audience can see Bobby suffers, but to understand them and recognize them. Not sure if people always expect Call Me By Your Name if there's gay romance in films, but if they do then that's their faults. Bros was aiming to be the gay version of Trainwreck and Bridesmaids, and it did pretty good job.
I never liked overly vulgar rom-coms. If they had made a more wholesome rom-com maybe they'd have had a winner.
The irony of Billy's character shaming the hot, white protagonist for being shallow, when he himself is just as shallow is peak gay culture 😂
Nick's non-verbal responses to Joseph's critiques of the film are 1000 times more comedic than anything I saw in the trailer. Behavior always speaks way more than a tonne of shouting ever will and much is said in what is not said. I also hear Joseph about nuance, because outside of the US most people identify as their nationality/ethnicity and there is a lot of nuance to the bigotries you experience from other ethnicities/nationalities when you are the not the conventional WASP type or even if you are not part of the dominant culture of the country you reside. I get a little tired of US movies fixating on this homogenous black/white experience when it is so much nuanced than that. Anyway, I enjoyed the review, gentlemen. Probably my favorite alongside Chris Gore's who brings up a whole bunch of very different points.
A nuanced and thoughtful analysis. Thank you!
I wanted this to be better, but I will still check it out when I need some laughs. I do think Billy Eichner is funny, but maybe in smaller doses? I also noticed in the trailer he looks much thinner than usual!
Not Billy Eichner uniting the gay liberal progressives and the right-wing conservatives... we all hate it.
This movies sounds exactly what I think a white male version of the (Iranian lesbian) film "Appropriate Behavior" would be & I kind of want your thoughts on this
first time viewer and omg you guys are sooo cute 😭
It's insane, I'm gay and I wanted to love this movie so so badly. I did enjoy some of Billy on the Streets segments but goddamn it, this was beyond awful. I cannot sit through the whole thing, one of the few times I actually dropped a movie halfway. The main character is so unlikable with no redeeming quality, essentially reading out articles headlines one after another at the loudest voice possible. Luke is great, love watching him in Brothers & Sisters, hopefully they paid him well doing this godawful movie.
Thank you for introducing Fire Island.
Had not known it was there.