Does Your Driver Adjustment Make any Difference? Shocking Results
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- What happens when you make changes to your driver using the hosel settings? #Nrit #golftowel #premiumgolftowel #KLEANSHOTGOLFTOWEL #bestgolftowel #KLEANSHOT
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Mr. Short Game, it does make a difference. After I adjusted mine, I became better looking and taller. May you hit nothing but fairways and greens. Thanks I am here all week!!!!
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You forgot...and younger, too!!! Mr. Short Game made you a youngster again...at least on the golf course!!!!!!
I can now tee off with a small gallery....
That’s a matter of perspective
@@jealousy8520 NOT when one golfs...its like being a fisherman or Patrick Reed...lying, cheating, "the one that got away" and how big six inches REALLY is changes in a heart beat!
“Your brain has a mind of it’s own.” maybe the best golf instruction I’ve ever heard. So does my golf ball. love your show, Matt.
Yogi Berra would say that makes sense. And you can observe a lot by watching this.
Didn’t Karl pilkington say something like this
I recently played with the settings on my ts3 3 wood and was amazed at the difference even just a little change made going from A1 to C3. Just adding a little more loft and a little draw bias made the club much easier to hit getting the ball in the air and got the ball flight straightened out. It went from my 200 yard club to a 240 yard club
I was just thinking of setting my 3w and hybrid to c3
As reading should never try and cut a fairway wood.
Still liking the c3?
Over 15 years ago in early years of moving weights on drivers it was clear anyone with strong grip pressure took all the advantage (if any) out of moving the weights.....I have found that true with adjustable hosels also. Not enough is said about the effect on grip pressure when it comes to how the club head will or will not help with ball flight....strong grip pressure is better for the fader of the ball soft grip is better for draw player.
Thank you for the detailed info. I tried a similar test with my Tsi2 9° on an outdoor launch monitor and had a little less conclusive results but found comfort in the A2 setting. Thank you for this one.
Thanks for your videos. You explain everything so well. I can actually understand all your points.
very interesting! I found that having a buddy with me to change the driver settings without my brain knowing what he is doing, helps me from mentally & physically compensating for the changes. Thanks for the video!! Great work!
Titleist use the most annoyingly confusing adjustment codes
I LOVE YOU!!! I am your 60 year old woman golfer in Colorado who changed EVERYTHING FOR THE BETTER after watching your awesome video on how to properly hold the club (I was holding it right down the middle of my palm) and proper thumb placement (not stretching the hell out of my thumb down the shaft). I'm headed to the driving range and you always motivate me!!! I have an older (8 year old) Callaway Great Big Bertha women's driver with the Bassara shaft) that I can't get rid of. I LOVE this driver. I hit her as well or better than the newer drivers and that tells me she is a great driver for me. She has adjustments for fade/draw and I have her adjusted for my still on the fairway draw. I'm like you in that I like to see my ball fairly in the middle of the fairway unless I'm on a dog leg.
Would you please do a review on the best cost effective home (for my husband's man cave) practice set up like what you use in your basement/golf room?
Love from your biggest 60 year old golf friend!!!
Very helpful. Gaming my TS3 still. Can’t wait to see what big sticks Titleist rolls out this year! 🤞
thank you Mr SG.. great video.. for me fun when I tried and also new setting discovered...good job.
I perform poorly in simulators and my results never reflect how I play on the course. I am a straight to high draw on the course, but in sims I am a big high slice. It is very frustrating. I love how my driver plays so I am not changing its setup. However, I do not know if it is optimal for me because of the above mention. Anyways, love the video. Thanks again.
I feel ya with the Sims. Everything I hit indoors is 20-30 yards short. I can hit range balls in the cold that go further than simulators. For this reason alone it would be a waste of $ for an indoor fitting.
As a lefty, glad the Titleist adjuster is the same just different chart. Perhaps they should etch the chart on the sole of club...
Great video. I have the same driver. Thank you for making this video, makes things a lot easier now.
Me too, I hit a high ball with too much spin. I'm going to try lowering the loft from B2 to C2
Ok, I’m convinced. I booked a track man booth for tomorrow to check my driver and 3wood settings.
Well that was interesting. I’m 63 with an 87mph swing speed. After warming up a hit a few balls with driver, Mavrik Max 9 set +1 degree loft and draw, saw carry and total distances right were I expected them to be. The surprise was the 19* launch and 3600 rpm spin. Did some experimenting with settings and ended up with the std 9* and draw. I normally play a Pro V1 but have been experimenting with the new Wilson Triad, the Triad launched lower with less spin off the driver so I guess it’s my new ball. would have expected a 9* driver to be too low for my swing speed but i am now launching at 16* with 2500 spin, added distance too! My cobra 3 wood was set at 15.5* draw, changing to 16* no draw added 10 yards carry. I’m a believer haha. Oh, and I don’t carry my irons as far as I thought I did.
I've a fitting for my new tsr driver next month can't wait
I think you should have hit 5-10 shots at each setting and showed the difference. I adjusted mine (stealth 2) for more loft but for some reason, I was hitting lower. To me each setting would be different for different people. Only way to find out is to try them out
Love this. I found a setting that said "uprt,+1,+2," I never knew was there. My irons I got fitted for were up +2. PXG also fitted my irons for stiff instead of what I normally would buy which were regular/upright. Adjusting my driver to +2, I cannot miss the face just above the center of the driver. I'm 5'9" with t-rex length arms. I feel this adjustment was like a miracle. Wish I would have known 10 years ago.
Awesome video I currently swing the TS4 8.5° at A3 setting along with my 915 3wood
It helps to have access to a decent launch monitor or home simulator to test and trial the settings on your driver (and fiarway / hybrids). The rest of us have to trust our fitters but as we know your swing can vary and the settings need dynamic changing through the season. It pays to have a friend with such a facility to use 'death by data' to analyse your swing dynamic with each setting.
Many driving ranges have monitors. The balls aren't the best but the differences are relative
A little spiny I love, I have adjusted my B21 from 9.5 draw to 12.5 and I can’t get my spin below 3500 on a good day. Lowest spin is when using the White Castle tee in 9.5 neutral setting. Attack angle is positive with pink castle but always over 4000rpm.
Mine is monitored into a net with Garmin R10, on course it looks the same as the graphic
FYI, I’m 99% sure the garmin doesn’t give accurate spin rates. Any launch monitor using radar can’t calculate spin very well. Especially so when hit into a net, the radar needs to track a full flight to give the most accurate data. I use a garmin and love it, but it has limitations.
@@BombproofCraftsman I have a swing speed of over 102mph on average but can’t get passed 230/240 with roll out even on the course. I think i need a new sport 🤣
@@MrLittlejonboy nah you just need the right driver. Those rear weights boost spin for forgiveness. Might need more neutral weighting. Could also try a low spin ball. Could also be the shaft, what stiffness are you using? B/c you should be getting 260 easy.
@@BombproofCraftsman Hzrdus smoke rdx blue shinny blue one. 60g stiff low spin 1 inch shorter as it felt right golf pride +4 grip also. Play the callaway chrome soft ball.
@@BombproofCraftsman what Garmin do you own? thanks
With Driver tech so solid these days, my first thought is that with any adjustable driver - any golfer - with a trackman session - should be able to find their setup. I just bought the Cobra LTDx LS after a 1.5hr fitting session yet I “felt” more confident standing over the Rogue and a year earlier it was the Epic. Of course, the Cobra arrived and I am bombing it nicely so I will survive.
So for a high handicapper who hits a small slice what would be a good setting?
Just acquired a TS2. I too will be having a play. Although not sure if Toptracer will give me definitive results
I love your videos they are very informative thanks. I was wondering about the pxg clubs, I like the reviews on the different clubs that you try out and review but I've not seen anything on the pxg clubs. Have you ever tried them out and if so what do you think about them.
Thanks Dan
Mr. Short Game, I’m a 10 handicapper, most of that is my putting and chipping around the green. Question I wish I could get answered is, why do I hook my 5 wood and 22 degree hybrid, but driver is a fade, 5-7 is a fade and from 8 to lob wedge is straight.
Thanks
Ya, had trouble with spinny shots all my life then got a 917d3, set to D1 with the weight installed at draw bias. Finally got the ball flight I've been missing!
Love your content Mr Short Game and not hating on this video at all but… I’m not convinced results are as great as this suggests. On a larger data set I do think strike over rides everything and the numbers would be much closer. However, I absolutely agree with you on the look aspect, I hate to see a driver look like it points left ….
Why not just keep it in its natural setting and close the face slightly to begin with? Or open it? Or just learn how to hit different shots instead of adapting the club to a swing flaw ( not saying you have a swing flaw, just speaking in generalities)
I changed my setting and it made a real difference. Went from a 9 Degree to 11 Degree and it made my Drives more Consistent.
The thing I don't like about the adjustment is that it rotates the shaft and will have the shaft logo in a different spot. I prefer the logo underneath.
Why do drivers have settings to hit more of a draw? How about just adjusting your swing path to being more inside / out?
Great video, thanks for you help
i think callaway is the only one that makes adjustable lofts that doesnt open or close the face?
Liking the TH-cam Logo and subscribe sign on you wall
What are you using for measurement ?? Is it a trackman system? I regularly practice in a sim that has the E6 system and my ball speed seems to be a lot lower than yours. My swing speed is at 105.
But what happens to your grip, when i adjust my hosel, my grip alignment is turned 90 deg?
When doing the adjustments you must make sure your grip alignment stays consistent
Wait a minute, my brain has a mind of it's own? Does that brain also have a mind of it's own?
Hey Matt great viid as usual thankyou but what are those shoes your wearing i followed the shoe link below but it didnt show those
The difference it makes for the most part is how open/closed the face is. Yes the loft changes but so does the face.
Cool towel, but it can’t be purchased?
I might be tripping, but at 2:09 the face looks open to me not closed.
2:19 same result whe clicking to draw i don't like looks and result is more fade - slice
Appreciate the effort, but adjusting that specific driver without a launch monitor is virtually impossible. Not everyone has the access to a launch monitor.
I actually did not see any benefit to changing my driver setting over the past few years but now that I can see my numbers on a launch monitor I saw similar results, especially when it comes to spin rates! A few tweaks had my spin rates averaging ~4400rpm down to ~2800rpm.
thats another 10 yards, try to get it down to around 2200
YES IT DOES!
8.25° Is the lowest possible degree of face for a 9° TSr2 Driver unless you tip the shaft 1 inch then it goes down to 7.75°. I think this is what you were trying to say.
The problem with this sort of test is "swing and contact consistency." Sorry, but you're a human and you are NOT nearly 100% consistent. You even mentioned that you see a physical difference that may or may not suit your eye. I'd rather see this test using an "Iron Byron" or similar swing robot/machine.
My spin rates went down when I switched to the soft feel type golf balls.
Hey brother luv the videos !!! Where can I get one if your hats.
Thank you for this video. Given that your swing is far more consistent than many of us, manipulating the loft/lie of your driver's settings is very educational. Thank you. I have been watching another TH-cam Golf Influencer, James Robinson. He recently & humbly videotaped a lesson he took from Pete Cowen, (th-cam.com/video/ccQnNSrbarU/w-d-xo.html). The feedback he got and how he responded to Cowen's specific instructions as well as anecdotes to the general golfing public was very informative.I would be curious to hear your views. The one takeaway I had was Cowen's observation on Robinson's grip and how he took his hands aways from the ball. Instead of moving his hands in a complimentary or similar manner, he told him to take them away in an opposing manner. Also, told him to feel his shoulder movement. Fascinating!
Excellent tip, thank you very much
So I have done a few searchs for the Klean shot golf towel and can not find a place to buy one. Please help
Fantastic! Just what I needed, simple and precise information. Bought a Titleist 917 D2 after a recommendation in a stiff shaft, knew I needed to move up to it, just wanted to tune the big stick in & voila there you were………….. keep the great vlog’s 👏🏽
Got a Big Bertha B21 for Christmas and finally got to play with it Monday. I love this thing. Very forgiving and when I got it right, it went way further/straight than I've ever hit with my old cheap driver. I know I could use a lesson or two as I'm new to the game but I'll be messing with these settings on my next outing. Lol
Matt, do you FLO your shafts? If so, changing to B2 has changed your FLO position. Callaway has a better adapter technology with the 2 cog system as it maintains FLO position when changing loft/lie.
I wish Cobra had that 2 cog system, hell they all should use it.
“Your brain has a mind of its own” 🤣🤣
Sir
We cannot see the screen w the numbers. Please speak the numbers for us
Treated myself to a new driver for Christmas. Was fitted for a Ping G425, and had an extra degree of loft (up to 11.5) and the weight set to draw setting to straighten me up a little (as a natural fader). So yeah agreed, it makes a big difference.
hey, Mr. Short-Bus, it definitely does.
Thanks for the clickbait, I knew it was time to shut YT down for the night
try something simple that even you can understand.
Make a jig that holes the club by the shaft at an angle to the perpendicular.
Put some marks on it so that you can align the club repeatedly in the jig.
Change the clubhead settings and take pictures from directly above, directly to the sides and front and back.
Have fun doing that until you figure-out the answer to your question.
All I have to do is hold the club at address as usual and I can see the difference easily.
That also changes the weighting, club-balance and feel at impact.
I have played my 915D3 at D1 for 6 months now with extremely rare experimentation at C1 and A1.
Even with a stiff, low-torque shaft, that's too open for my tastes. I've yet to try.
At A1 I feel like the club just rattles around too much at impact.
It definitely can work, I definitely have gotten some very long and straight drives at A1, but it just doesn't feel as good and I don't have the same confidence in the outcome.
I hit the clubs reliably at D1. Slightly shorter but hits that are more square on the face and it feels much better.
Lesson learned.
The charts say that the hosel settings change lie, face and loft angles, but what they don't talk about is the change in COG relative to the swing-path.
Opening the face moves the COG clockwise around the shaft by the same angle, increasing the loft moves the COG down & toward the shaft, likewise.
The net effect is to move the COG in 3 dimensions. It simply is not going to hit or feel the same.
I recently bought a used 11.5deg TSi2 and tried both D1 and A1 with it. Sim says that A1 is longer, at least on the stock normal shaft. I put it on one of my stiff shafts and set it to both D1 and A1 and tried it at a range, D1 was ok but in A1 but my swing rapidly deteriorated as both contact and feel went to shit, it felt like the clubhead was oscillating on the shaft. I figured that the shaft was too stiff one way or another and with the open face it was difficult to get a square hit on the face. I put it back on the stock normal shaft at D1 and went out and hit bombs with it on a Slope 145 course the next day. It just does not have an "off" button. The damm thing sounds like a cheap tin can compared to my 915D3s and it hits the ball very high but it also hits very long and it's easy to get good head speed and shape shots. It's like the club helps you to swing it fast and hit good shots with it.
Incredibly confidence-inspiring. I've only played it in a real round one time but so far I'm loving it.
It's not like I hate my 913D3 heads, they are good but I don't know if they are in the same class as the TSi2.
Too early to tell much more than they are rifles compared to a howitzer.
But do the shaft settings matter? You're durn tootin! I think they would matter a little less with the TSi3, because you could adjust the annular weight to compensate for the COG movement in the horizontal plane that results from changing the hosel settings. With the TSi4 it would matter a little less than with the TSi1 & 2 because the change in COG location would be smaller.
These small changes do make a big difference and of course they should, when you think about these clubheads moving at 100mph hitting a stationary 1.6oz golf-ball. You've got 3 torques acting on the shaft to open the face, one from the clubhead acceleration, another from clubhead drag and a third from hitting that ball. You honestly think that pivoting the head around on the shaft won't make a difference? Seriously? Do you know what the arc distance is of 1 degree at a radius of 1 mile? It's approximately 1/60th of a mile. So at 3" you're moving the COG around by 3/60th of an inch for every 1deg change in the hosel setting. Now multiply that by 100 mph times the clubhead and ball mass and you get the static torque at impact (the momentum neglecting aerodynamic drag or club+shaft movement). The change in static torque is about 1/20th of that. Let's say that we divide your weight by 2000 and hit you with a club at 100mph, you think that it would matter if we changed the hosel settings? Or no?
How does that golf simulator tell all that info accurately
I like the Js…🔥
Look at the snazzy new TH-cam logo and subscribe button on the home studio wall. Looking sharp. I love how you seem to really enjoy yourself in these videos. Good stuff. I’m overdue for a new driver and have never owned an adjustable driver (that’s how old mine is lol). Maybe the newly re-released M4…
Comforbility........ I'm always learning, something. No clue what sometimes !
You should try a look at The Claw Driver by The Natural Golf Company in the UK . No closed club face whatsoever . Just very upright . E4 swing weight . Solid shot every time . If you open the club face on impact it just goes higher . Closed , it just goes lower !!
You shouldn't have jumped off b1 so fast. You hit that shot in the lower part of the face, that's what made it spin like that. No way that slight adjustment made a 1500 rpm difference! You need to realize, impact location on the face has a MUCH higher impact on those numbers. You should be doing this with face impact tape or foot powder spray so you can be sure the numbers don't change because of a strike location change.
I'm 2 degrees down and wide open on my sim2. Keeps a left miss at bay for me.
Mine was set up at A2 and my drives were pretty high. I adjusted it to a D2. Lower trajectory and longer drives. I'm going to experiment with a couple of different weights, but so far, I'm happy with it
Great video, if your swing is consistent enough then the hosel adjustments can be great however strike is king and that can override any setting. I believe I read that for every 1 degree you loft up it closes the face 2 degrees and for every 1 degree down it opens it 2 degrees however if you don’t sole the club you can also override that as well by manipulating your grip. Always comes back to you and your swing lol 🏌🏻♂️
If we were having this conversation 50 years ago - wouldn't we just be talking about grip/clubface angle and ball position for loft? Take your same shitty swing and adjust the club or just improve your swing?
@@raytownloc I’m sorry your swing is sh***y lol
@@legend9018 I'm sorry too - I just would rather work on my swing than change the club to match it. In the long run I think that's the best play.
You can keep adjusting your club setting, OR, you can keep it in its natural position and learn how to hit different shots. Tee it low to hit it low. Tee it high to hit it high. Etc....i personally dont like adjusting the driver bc if you have a swing flaw, you are just reinforcing your swing flaw
question, when talking SPIN, are you talking top spin or back spin????
Still hitting a 15 year old driver . Most of the time , shooting par or alittle better , or a few over . What are you going to hit a driver ...?? 10 to 12 times at most ...but yet if you two putt every hole , that's 36 strokes ...your putter is the most important club !
If you change the settings, but at address you make the face look square, then you didn’t do anything, correct?
from a math point. a 45 degree angle gives you the longest carry, anything above or below 45 will give you less carry...
Wuz up brotha,thank you man! Was going to take my tsr2 over to PGA store to adjust my hosel,but after your vid.no need! I also was going right at the standard A1 and took that B2 to the range ,then the course,working great! Keep up the great vids brotha!
The outside of the towel is waterproof so that you can put it in your pocket and not get your pants wet while the inside is wet to clean your club and ball but only sharing that because I just figured that out about 20 minutes before I saw this video LOL
I know when you make your videos you probably don't have a lot of time! But a lot of other videos I watched on driver settings they would use five balls on all the settings and all the way up to 10 balls sometimes on some of them to get a true average! That would have been nice if you would have done that! It would have been more detailed information! Just my thought! 🤔
Just go get a Cobra LTDx LS and call it good if you are looking for distance and low spin.
Golfers should know that one click is sufficient. Two clicks or more is not good as it applies more pressure to the screw system that it is not optimally designed for. It brings the failure point sooner rather than later.
I have a TS2 7 Wood and 27 hybrid. I am impressed with the Titleist hosel system in comparison to my Cobra woods. Luckily like most RH players leaving the ball out right is my miss, so a neutral and draw setting suits me fine, but what about those players who over draw their hybrids?
What?
If you deliver the conaistent dynamic loft at the ball, it does make some minor differences. It helps me guard againt losing it right.
Love my ts-3.... would be hard to find a replacement....
What kind of mic do you use? Your driver strikes always sound crisp, other TH-camrs often sound tinny for some reason
So honestly I didn’t watch the video sorry, but I just wanted to add my two cents. So I made two changes to my driver and saw a noticeable difference in my accuracy and maybe even a little added distance. First I went from a 70 gram stiff flex Aldila rouge silver to a 60 gram X flex Aldilal rogue silver shaft. Then I bumped my loft up one click which of course closes the face slightly. 2017 Taylormade M2. So moral to the story is, if you have a consistent swing adjustments can make a difference.
and you hit it almost 1 degree down instead of 1 or 2 degrees up? sure its going to give bad numbers try hitting it with higher loft and try to actually hit up on the ball
It can only be compared accurately when strike is considered surely???
So based on the HUGE standard deviation in spin on "good" strikes... and based on the TS3's habit of the face flattening and/or caving.... I would check the driver face. I flattened and caved about 4 TS3s and a TS4.
Wow those golf shoes are simply horrendous, no offence but they really are awful.
I bought a driver from a guy m3 anyway i said i cant hit this.. we wrenched it and now i cant hardley miss it... changed the weighting oops it matters...
you just adjusted it and it went 40 yards further???? but its not ideal? hummmmmm
Whats the optimal height and spin for driver with 105mph swing speed ?
No club will compensate for a bad swing...😂
Playback at 2x speed helps tremendously to get through this.
I learned that my brain has a mind of its own 😂
It always seems to me that i change the hozel but at set up i just rotate the handle so that it “looks right” and i assume im back to square 1
After watching your video, I have a much better understanding of the driver settings. I wish we had something similar with the irons. Thanks for sharing.
Me2 B2!!! TSi2. Went from a fade to dead straight. Can still fade it when I need too.
Brilliant video, I was trying this with my driver last night ⛳⛳
That towel looks awesome! Where’s the link🤔
Why you are you adjusting your old titleist driver? You play with it again?
You easily have the best shoe game on TH-cam. Those Js are on point!! 🔥🔥
266 carry with a 103mph speed? I don't get it?