Adjustable Hosel Drivers - How they change Loft, Lie, and Face Angle
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- Adjustable hosel golf clubs, how do they work? We look at Adjustable Hosel Drivers and explore how they change loft, lie angle, and face angle. This same explanation works for adjustable fairway metals, and hybrid golf clubs as well. Why does a golf club's face open or close when we adjust the hosel adapter? We answer that question. If you've ever been confused by the settings on an adjustable hosel golf club, watch this video.
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The best video on loft and lie with adjustable drivers ever. Thanks!
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Damn never knew this
@@EFGMC clear and accurate explanation on adjustable hosel settings. Thanks for clearing that up. A couple of questions though.
1. Would lie angle 📐 change have an effect on the center of gravity when making these adjustments?
2a. What is the exact degree increment change in lie angle +/- from Neutral Standard?
2b. While negligible, would it be have an effect on the club head, maybe the closure rate or feel?
@@alldayrays7110 1. Yes I am sure it has some small change but honestly not enough to worry about. I think the CG change from increase/decrease of loft would be far more influential yet still too small for most people to worry about.
2.The lie angle change will depend on the club type and what the adapter is set at; 1,1.5, 2 degrees. Taylormade for example has a chart that shows the exact lies, lofts, and face angles with each setting.
2b. I have heard some people say the flattest or most upright lie can influence some golfers closure, but there is no rule for it I would say. Depends on the golfer.
Agreed. This is the best explanation of adjustable hosels and their effects I have ever seen on TH-cam.
Great explanation! Best I’ve seen. I finally understand them😊.
Have spent ages looking for an explanation of how an adjustable driver works but now I've found it - a superb video explaining in simple terms the impact of changing the settings on the hosel. The use of a clock face to illustrate the relationship between the club head and the shaft was particularly good. Thanks and best wishes
I've had customers argue that lowering the loft closed the face and increasing the loft opened the face. The clip where you showed the club falling closed when you increase the loft and falling open when you decreased the loft is a great example I can show my customers. Thank you!
The revelation for me was the last part about the relationship between the contact and balance points and the 2nd assumption. Thanks for putting all the pieces together. 👍
One of the best explanations of the adjustable sleeve. I come from an era of flat sole woods with different bore angles. The rounded soles of drivers make this possible. Slightly less applicable to fairway woods and hybrids that don't have much camber. Tom Wishon was one of the most outspoken in this topic.
The best video on TH-cam regarding this topic.
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@Rey Adan sounds like your a real douchebag
After ten searches - I found this excellent explanation of HOW these adapters work. Thanks!
It’s straight up criminal how under appreciated your channel is. I’ve never seen a collection of better videos for at home club builders to learn from. Please continue to make content and grow the channel. You’re videos are very much appreciated by us that like to tinker on our gear at home. I taught myself a couple years ago to start doing my own club work and never looked back. Would have been a huge help to have had your channel as a resource. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the very kind comment. Channel is slowly growing and I do nothing to promote it other than put out videos so we will just see where it goes.
yes youtube should be arrested.
Got to say that is the best description on TH-cam…well done. The visual of the clock face really help me grasp what the adjustments were doing!!! I stopped the video and immediately liked and subscribed
One super video, I have played golf for over 45 years. This year I bought my first adjustable driver a Cobra F9 and I wondered how all the numbers worked. With watching this video it all makes sense and you explained it better than anyone including the manufactures people. Great Job...
Awesome. Glad to hear it helped make sense of those hosels. When you can actually see the changes being made, I find it simplifies things greatly.
This guy definitely has a high degree in some areas of science. He knows exactly how to properly preface an explanation
I will take that as a compliment. Thanks for watching.
@@EFGMC I'm saying you're clearly very intelligent, also thank you for explaining this to me
THAT was AWESOME! I never truly understood HOW the adjustments worked until watching your video.
Super clear presentation and easy to understand. Thanks!
I looooove when TH-camrs are able to break things down into such a simple description. Made understanding adjustments on my driver so much easier! Ive been nervous to try it out
Very helpful. Makes so much more sense. I appreciate the assumptions of 1 and 2. This helps define the basis of all other alignments.
Very thorough and insightful. Thank you for making the complicated understanding with clarity. Awesome channel!
Great explanation! Very helpful and probably should be referenced by every company making this type of club.
Finally, a video that not only explains how it works, but also demonstrates the mechanics. Thank you
Thanks. Glad it helped.
Fascinating! Thank you so much for this video. It was very educational, thorough, and comprehensive. Keep up the great work!
One of the best videos I’ve seen from the perspective of physics and club engineering. Great comparison shots!
The clock face explanation is such a cool way to explain it. Great and simple video to understand. Great work
Brilliant, thanks for helping me finally understand the physics/mechanism behind adjustable loft and its relationships with Lie/Face angle.
Excellent video!! I've always been confused as to the adjustments to the driver head vs how it naturally lies at setup. You're point on the two key assumptions the manufacturer makes clears it all up. Many Thanks.
Excellent explanation! I just got my first adjustable hosel driver and now I know just what I'm doing while adjusting it. Thank you.
This is very well explained. Thanks for stating the 2 assumptions, without these, I would've thought my adapter was installed incorrectly since the lower lofted switch actually opened up the face.
Great Video!! Thank you so much, I watched 5 videos and none of them explain it as well as you do. Keep up the good work!!
Thank you for the comment. Glad it was helpful.
OMG! Your tone and instruction is great. I'm awaiting my new Cleveland adjustment tool to make some of these changes. Golf is Fun, Again! Thank you.
Thanks for your time for explaining this, I don't think I have ever seen any other video about behind scene mechanism. Brilliant!
Finally a great explanation of how this works! Thank you so much for this great, informative video. Well done!
Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
The best explanation I've found on TH-cam! Thank you AJ
Wow!!! What an exclamation. Mizuno owes you a check. I just picked up the ST190 and could not understand this adjustable hosel thing until I found this video. Great work. Thank you and subscribed. Cheers.
Finally a video explaining this clearly. I never understood how changing the loft would change the face angle if you square the club face to the target. It doesn’t.
Straight up. This was incredibly well done.
I appreciate it. Thanks.
Learned some crucial information today with your video! I have a much clearer idea of how loft and face angle work together now! Thank you! Suscribed.
Most clear and concise explanation I've seen on the topic.
5 Stars for your great vids, glad I found your channel as a hobby club maker I find them really great. This vid on adjustable hosel,s is exceptional and how you explain the information is perfect. Hope you keep up the great work.
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Great video. I do a lot of club fittings and hearing how you explains how the hosel works is exactly how it should be explained to the average golfer. Thank you!
This guy is being super slept on. He has a lot of knowledge and his explanation is through and very well presented.
Agree! Outstanding explanation on a very complicated issue. Before this video, I completely underestimated how much difference the adjustments made. A golfer can total change how the driver plays with the adjustments.
such a great video. watched many videos on youtube trying to understand the logic behind adjustable hosel and none of them made it clear until this one.
Thank you. When you can actually see what is happening it all makes sense. If you haven't subscribed, please consider it as we will have more videos like this up coming.
A++. Your explanation surpasses every other due to your exceptional visuals. I thought I knew the subject well, but I gained a lot of additional knowledge. Great job.
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Best explanation I've ever found on how adjustable hosel works! Great job
Thanks for watching. Glad it helped.
Best explanation I’ve seen. Great reference video, thanks for creating this masterpiece! ⛳️
Well said. This is a masterpiece!
Answered every question I've ever had about how this works. Thank you!
Awesome explanation! I'll probably watch this video 10 times. Thank you
Thanks for watching.
Excellent video - the only one on youtube to actually explain clearly how and why this works! Thank for posting
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This made a lot of sense to me. Thank you for the information.
That video needed to be made. Thanks!!!
Awesome! THIS IS THE FIRST OF 10 VIDEOS THAT FINALLY EXPLAINS IT TO WHERE I UNDERSTAND IT... because he actually uses visuals.
Thanks for watching. Glad it cleared up the mechanics of it.
Just watched your video and it makes so much sense as to how the adapters work!!! I have read the manufacturers instructions but I never related it to the shaft instead of the head. Great job!!!!
Thanks for the support! Glad it cleared things up.
Finally! An easily understood, yet detailed explanation on this topic. Thx much.
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WOOOOW! That was absolutely clear. This was probably the 10th video I watched about adjustable driver/wood lofts but this has the most clarity. As an adult beginner, this is very helpful. Thanks very much! Now subscribed to your channel.
Thanks for watching and subscribing. Glad it cleared things up a bit.
Thank you for this video. I always suspected some changes that were inevitable with altering a club so much. I personally think that buy a club in a loft you can use right away and have it adjustable to the point where it’s still good when your at your best game. +/- 1 degree of loft. Also, weighting more then adjustments for Fade/Draw.
Fantastic video... clearly, its tough subject to explain easily... but I now fully understand the principal and function of the adjustable hosel. Thank you!
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I have just found your channel and boy I am glad I did. I was looking for information like in this video. Tom Wishon tried to explain the same thing but this explanation is way better and easier to understand. Huge thumbs up
Thanks. The Wishon video gets a bit too infomercially for my liking. I think the clock face reference really simplifies everything. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Great video and really added clarity to how it all works, made perfect sense.
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This is by far the most informative video on this topic I have seen to date.Well done sir.
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Great video! Always used my adjustable driver without even knowing what I was doing, but that is fixed now! Thanks a lot!
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!
Finally an honest video on how the adjustable shaft works on the golf club. Thanks.
What a terrific video explaining something that has confused me for years. Thank you for taking the time to do this, I am now smarter than I was 10 minutes ago 😊
Indeed, the best explanation of adjustable driver I have ever heard. Should be a required video at all golf shops. Thanks!
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Best explanation I've seen on TH-cam or anywhere! Thanks!
Very well done!! Thanks for taking the time to explain this.
Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for more good stuff upcoming!
I have searched for an explanation on the topic of adjustable hosels. This is perfect and concise.
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i know i am repeating what has already been said but this is by far the best informational video on this subject that i have found. very easy and simple to understand .thank you.
Sorry I never saw this post til now. Thanks for the kind review.
Great content! Simply explains this topic.
Fantastic explanation. A lot of shops that sell these don't really understand how they work. Thanks for making it clear.
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Mr. Mobile, it is clear and understandable, great job. Nobody has explained so thouroughly the process with it´s results. Great Video!!!
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Your vids are so well done! You explain things so clearly that I wonder at it. Wishon also has great info, but his explanations require several viewings, along with technical lingo. thank you thank you
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Brilliant explanation, best I've seen - all makes sense now. I'm off to the range with ratchet in hand!
Thank you so much for this video. I couldn't believe how many videos I'd tried watching that basically just said "ehhh well ya rotate it and it changes loft and lie, you figure it out..." lol like why even make that video?! Thank you for actually explaining. The critical component that I think is easy to miss and that causes the confusion is that the shaft and hosel are not parallel. I was wondering how the hell essentially just twisting the shaft would change the way the club hits, assuming that it was just rotating on an axis down the center of the shaft. But knowing that it shifts the angle of the shaft in relation to the head makes SO much more sense haha.
Thank you that is really helpful. I couldn't find this information anywhere. I thought there was something wrong with my driver as I had to really force myself to open the face. I've gone back to the standard loft now.
Wow. Tough subject and you gave a crystal clear explanation. You must have rehearsed because you moved right along without a lot of hemming and hawing. Excellent job. Thanks.
WOW! First time (after over 30 years) I actually understand the adjustable driver! Thanks so much for making that video! Great explanation! Much appreciated!
Thanks for the comment. Glad it helped.
This video is sooo good!! I feel like an expert now, thank you for your hard work.
Recently bought a cobra F8 and it is my first adjustable driver. I had no idea how the adjustments worked or what they did. This video cleared that up! Great video, thanks!
Happy it helped. Enjoy the new stick!
I’ve always heard that open/closed commentary and on my head I didn’t think it made sense because of how we keep the face square to the target. Thanks for breaking it down so well and explaining where that thought process comes from.
Glad it helped.
FINALLY!!! Someone who was able to explain how the adjustable hosel works. I thought this was either one of the greatest golf mysteries or product gimmicks of all time. I have spoken with many golf product people and no one could explain how the adjustable piece made a difference in the driver head. You finally explained ( and showed) in a way an engineer can understand the mechanics. Thank you. The missing piece that no one knew to mention is that the adjustable component is essentially bent at a slight angle. I guess the answer was just too simple for others to understand or try to explain. The angle is of course so small I could not see it with my naked eye nor had I thought it through on my own without visual evidence. Also you have a great channel. I am getting ready to rebuild my 7 iron thanks to you. Thanks again.
Can't say it enough but best explanation on the planet for loft, lie and face angle!!!
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You're right it's a complicated subject and you did a great job covering it. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I especially liked the clock face analogy. Great video!
Oh finally ! Someone to explain the topic. Subscribed!
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Great explanation, thank you! I just picked up my first adjustable hosel driver today and will now have a perfect understanding for when I can get to the range and dial this thing in. The club manufacturer (Tour Edge) provides a loft and lie angle setting chart on their website, but no explanation of the geometry relationships. You did that simply, thanks again!
Good, comprehensive information, added to my knowledge. Worth viewing by anyone with one or more adjustable hosel clubs (=90% golfers I suspect)
Thanks for the comments. Will have some more technical breakdown videos coming soon.
Fantastic explanation! I was afraid to adjust my driver down as I was told it would open the face but I feel pretty confident after watching this that if my club face is aimed square I won't be slicing. Thanks!
Correct. And even if you did see a slice, you can always just go back to the original settings, no harm done.
That's how I thought it works but it's nice to have someone confirm it for me. I have seen lots of videos and read lots of articles on this topic but like you said they all just repeat what the manufacturer instructions say and tell you how to use the adjustable hosel without explaining the actual theory behind it. Great video!
Thanks. Happy you enjoyed it.
Phenomenal and easy to understand, thank you!! So always aim driver face angle at target like you do any other club...makes sense! lol
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Great explanation. Also great visualization to show how it does it. I never knew that the hosel had that room when you rotate the shaft.
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I’ve always wondered about all of these questions and adjustable loft never made sense to me before this. Much appreciated!!
Glad it was helpful.
Absolutely the best counterintuitive thought is simplified, thank you
Thanks for yourunderstandable demonstration and insightful "assumptions"., assumptions. The time was well worth it especially after searching for an hour on how the "adjusters" work. I bought a used M5 and want to optimize it.
The M5 is the perfect club to pair with this video as it has the rotating adapter. Keep track of the ball flight and impact position as you get it dialed in.
Thank you so much, fantastic video. I have been searching to find out how changing the hosel actually works.
Great Video my friend!! Excellent explanation of how the driver face is moved. Thanks so much!!!
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Great explanation. I know alot of especially beginning players that look at the markings on their grip to check if the club is square to target. This presentation shows that you must always use the club face for alignment. Good job.
Excellent video. Very clear and informative. Thank you for putting this explanation together.
Thanks for watching!
This explains a lot. I go weeks hitting driver great. And then my dumb ass starts thinking ( always happens ) maybe I can get more out of my driver if I change the loft now. Up or down. 🤦🏻♂️ thanks for the explanation. I’ll leave my driver alone from here on out. This video was awesome.
This is super ! Complicated topic, but very well explained. I like the two assumptions starting point.
Sorry I just found this comment. Thanks for watching and the support!
Thank you! Exactly the explanation I was seeking. Knowledge is power and you made me a powerful man.
Happy it helped. I find it's pretty simple once you can actually see how the head and shaft move during the hosel changes.
You covered it well. The only other question I have is this: The early adjustable clubs (Open, Neutral, Closed) are the ones that are adjusting only Face Angle due to the adapters being in a straight line with the shaft. Is that, in general, a correct assumption?
@@MrUlfdub Ha Ha. Here is where it gets tricky. They are actually doing the exact same thing. The OEMs decided at some point in the last 10 years give or take, to stop referring to face angle change and instead focus on loft change.
The adapter is tilted in relation to the shaft in either case, it just comes down to marketing and how you want to view the changes that occur. I have no issue calling it loft change personally, I know some people only refer to it as face angle change. Just depends how you want to view it and how you address the ball.
Your videos are fantastic. Could not get my head around why an adjustable hybrid I was being fitted for seemed to want to fall open at address. Love the detail
Finally...a video on this subject that actually explains the science behind how the adjustable hosel works. All the other videos I've seen only state what adjustment creates what result, but not why.
Your explanation on the "assumptions" is critically important, too. Thank you for point that out.
No club fitter has been able to explain this to me as well as you just did. I suspect many do not really understand it themselves.
Bravo. Extremely well done. Just subscribed to your channel, as a result.
Appreciate it. Anyone in the golf business should watch this. Like you said, most don't understand what's happening, just regurgitating the club companies marketing.