I just found mine, used (2015) at a Honda dealership where they had picked it up on auction. There is little to no wiggle room when dealing with them on these trucks - everyone wants 'em.
No other full size truck beats this truck in the world for fuel economy. I have 100,000 miles on my 2014 Laramie 3.0l ecodiesel and it is still solid, never dropped since new at 30 miles. 17-19 mpg towing, 19 city 24mpg with 2000lbs in the bed highway 27-29mpg highway @65mph no trailer or load. 3.55 rear end. I love my truck.
Great video!! The US needs to wake up and allow manufacturers to put 4 and 6 cylinder diesels in trucks and passenger cars. Forget all that hybrid crap.
I'm a Ford guy, I owned a crown vic, and now own a 93 f150 2wd 4.9 with 297,000 miles but guess what, when I get a new job, truck I'm getting? This truck! Just love the interior, love the instrument cluster, love the amount of info you can see and of course this engine! Funny thing is I've always hated Chrysler products but I think Fiat is doing a good job.
I always wished the Dodge Dakota would've come with a 4-cyl diesel option. I loved my Dakota. Had 2 of them actually. A 4 banger diesel would've made the Dak flawless.
Great video Andre! This video helped me decide to get an ecodiesel and I've only had it do 2 weeks but I've hit 1,300 miles (about 150 miles have been empty) of towing my sailboat and the truck amazes me! Towing my 4,900 lb. boat I get the same mpg my 2008 hemi got empty!! I watch all the tfltruck videos and look forward to the new ones that pop up on my news feed.
I've had my ecodiesel since August and all I have to say is WOW! The MPG is off the charts. I thought that the increase in the price of diesel might make buying it not worth it, but I took a chance anyway. I'm so glad I did. I drive 50 miles one way to work and I am getting anywhere from 26.5 miles to the gal. on bad weather days to 31.5 on nice days. This truck was worth every penny. I also can't believe how quiet it is, it really is amazing.
Diesel MPG is WAAAAAAAAAAY different than Gas MPG. So, the 2.7L EcoBoost has best-in class GAS MPGs, but, the Ram has best-in-class DIESEL MPGs(Mostly because it' she only diesel in it's class!)
My ‘05 sebring (4 cyl. I4, 4 speed auto) barely gets 30 mpg on a good strip of highway @ 70 mph, thats awesome. I might be able to afford that $40k+ pricetag one day, til then, my gas vehicles are paid in full :).
I love the typical butt hurt comments in the comment section. So many people were begging for a diesel in a half ton and Ram finally delivered and it gets best in class gas mileage to boot. If you tow a lot or drive highway a lot, the diesel will give you your money back in no time. This is a LIFESTYLE truck, not necessarily a mall runner like the 2.7 ecoboost that many mom's will drive. It's efficient, good looking, and it gets the job done. If we were talking 3 years ago about the same truck no one would care about diesel prices because gas prices were at $4/gallon.
Manpreet Singh And at the same time diesel fuel was hovering around $4.85-$5 per gallon. You also gloss over the fact that purchasing and maintaining a diesel is more expensive than a comparable gas engine. Personally, I like diesels, I just think the advantage is wasted in a 1500 or compact truck like the Frontier or Colorado/Canyon. This engine would've been great in the 80s or 90s but not when compared to today's trucks. Sure, it has enough torque to pull like there's no tomorrow, but it's slow as masalas! It lacks the power to move out of it's own way.
Daniel Bell How is it wasted in a 1/2 ton truck but it's ok in a small Volkswagen where diesels also get great mileage? The U.S. is just behind the curve on this issue and it shows in these comment sections. The amount of resistance even when faced with incredible results in a video directly above the comment section is unbelievable.
If you're towing 9k lbs up the Ike gauntlet everyday then obviously this isn't the truck for you. But that's what everyone is basing their opinions off of. For an everyday truck you'll be saving a lot more moolah and it has enough grunt to get out of its own way. If you wanna be winning drag races and not saving money, then obviously this isn't the truck for you. I'm still waiting for the day ford comes out with a half ton diesel, the fan boys will be out in full force on that one.
Skeld Most other nations prefer gasoline engines in light vehicles, not just the US. And if the US is behind the curve, why is diesel losing favor with Europeans? www.fleeteurope.com/news/diesel-losing-popularity-france www.autonews.com/article/20150216/OEM/302169996/has-diesel-had-its-day-in-europe www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/diesel-dominance-threatened-eu-emissions-rules www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/11280067/London-will-follow-Paris-and-ban-diesel-cars-campaigners-warn.html
How anybody could ever have thought that a turbocharged V6 gas engine has better fuel economy or towing capability than a V6 diesel engine. The eco diesel is a great engine and THE logical engine choice for a half ton truck. The perversity is that in some states of the US diesel costs more than gas. I may be wrong but I guess you won't find that anywhere in the (western) world but in the US.
You're right, there is such a bias against diesel in North America. Anywhere else in the world it is diesel, not batteries. I also believe the bias is rooted in something other than logic...
The taxes make most of the fuel price. You in the U.S. are blessed compared to many European countries. However, Diesel fuel contains more energy, which is why vehicles consume a bit less compared to gas. It would be logical if Diesel was more expensive everywhere but the governments wants the transportation sector and the economy to be competitive so taxes are kept within a reasonable range.
I am sorry, but I disagree. In the US it is environmental concerns (that I disagree with) that drive the price as well as taxes. Here they made diesel a low sulfer content diesel which is less efficient and does not lubricate as well causing the engine to have more issues and a shorter life. If these people were really concerned about what they say, there would be a bigger push for diesel because of efficiency and that the engines last so long. The fact that they hang their collective hats on batteries without allowing more power plants to be built tells me their aim is not to save anything but to curb our freedoms, one of which is free and easy travel.
Slowing down traffic and increasing cost of travel is happening for various reasons (i also heavily disagree). In Germany and several other countries Diesel cars are a dying breed. Recently cities have been allowed to ban diesels because of micro particles and NOx emissions. In the last decade there had been a crusade against emissions and the VW scandal was the pinnacle of all this. The technology was heading into a dead end and innovations for the last decade were only made to control the emissions. I am sort of indecisive because i also think Diesels have their reason to exist but on the other hand the production cost went out of hand, manufacturers cheated on their customers and all this only run overweight SUVs for reasonable cost within cities. This is madness. In Trucks and HD vehicles Diesels have their reason but within normal cars, no They are too much and despite all filtering and catalytic converter improvements they simply stink really bad. Also Diesels are no fun to drive in normal cars.
Ivy Wells That's the MSRP. More than likely it's well below that when getting it from the dealer. Our local dealership has an "as low-as" price for the 2015 crew-cab laramie limited for $43k. Take the MSRP with a grain of salt.
+Dragon Butt (ThatsNoMoon) If you ever had a fortune of sitting in car with natural leather, you wont say. We are not talking about variety of "bonded leather" offered by Kia/Hyunday, Honda, and Toyota.
Nothing suprising here, that's as expected (and very impressive). The only thing I might suggest in an attempt to "standardize" your tests is to use the same driver. Driving habits can vary greatly between people, and is probably one of the biggest variables in your test.
Crazy! I'd love to see a HEMI with the 8 speed try this. I just bought one and it has all of 100 miles on it so far. I took it on the highway and at 65 mph for about 10 miles I was getting 26 mpg per the computer. I have 3.21 gears. EPA is 21 mpg!! I get that my little test is just that, and no I was not going down hill! Lol Would love to see it in a controlled environment and with it's most popular engine/transmission.
I have a hemi 4x4 with 3:21 and Ecodiesel with 3:92. Diesel averages about 10 more mpg. Yes, I've gotten 25 mpg with the hemi, but the diesel is unreal! EPA IS BS
If you're buying a diesel, buy a big one don't buy these little wimpy things... Parts are going to be very expensive for these ecodiesels... You're better off buying a gasoline engine.. Diesel is for big hauls and when something goes wrong in a diesel you could be looking at a major repair bill especially if this has a DPF.. Over heating will be a big problem.
What would also be helpful is if you disclosed the the current price of the diesel vs gas per gal where you fill up and what the cost of your fill up was. MPG is a good gauge of a vehicles efficiency but not the only factor for end users cost.
It's a piece of shit. Don't buy any Ram trucks. I just bought one in October 2018. $6500 in repairs on 6 months including 2 air suspension compressor and I don't EVER tow
As an owner since the original line of trucks I cannot stress this fact enough .... DELETES DELETES DELETES! The truck has more power runs better better fuel economy and now my engine isn’t getting regularly filled with soot from the environmental systems. Also these trucks hate anything colder then -30
Yeah, but who cares when diesel costs a dollar more than gas AND you have to pay for that stupid DEF? You lose money hand over fist with this thing, and that's AFTER paying the massive price premium for the engine
All you guys need to stop swearing if you cannot write speak or describe your opinions properly you have no business commenting you guys sound like your still in special ed in school. There's no right or wrong answer let each man decide what he wants if the truck make him happy so be it. If you do not agree with TFLT then don't watch it.
Here's the deal with this truck that no one seems to get or realize. With the very high price of diesel there is no mpg king with this truck, you're actually paying way more to operate this truck than the biggest most powerful gas engine truck. 2. The biggest most powerful gas engine truck pulls more and has more horse power and torque. 3. This truck does not have the pull weight of a half ton truck with the 5.7 hemi and does not have the higher horsepower and torque. 4. This truck can only carry and pull loads that a regular gas engine half ton truck can carry and haul, when actually the half ton truck does it better and can carry and haul/pull heavier weights and loads. So there is absolutely no payoff or gain with this truck whatsoever. You're actually spending way more money to operate this truck than a half ton gas engine truck, and the half ton gas engine truck does it better and can haul and pull more weight and is far cheaper to operate. There is absolutely no payoff with or to operate this truck and you can't haul or pull as much and are paying far more to operate it. Stupid actually and stupid idea to even produce a truck like this.
I get 30 in my 2015 4x4 silverado at 55 mph why would I buy a piece of shit dodge and pay more for feul not to mention payload and maintenance cost are more with a diesel engine. Not worth the money in my opinion.
mattheginger On the power side of the test. This truck could barely make it up the Ike with the same weight the Ecoboost F150 had. The few dollars it's saves you in fuel isn't worth having a truck that can't pull. It's a nice truck for hauling a motorcycle or something else on a small scale but definitely not a work truck like the F-150. Dodge needs to use the v8 Cummins motor for this truck in my opinion. I've considered purchasing this truck but thank God for these test because now i know better. Thanks FLT. BTW The new Nissan Titan will blow the doors off of this DUD! Watch!
Well stated on the regeneration cycle of diesels. I recently purchased a "15 Passat TDI and its highway runs were averaging 45 mpg. Then I noticed a drop to 39 mpg for a couple of days and then right back to 45 mpg. It has since leveled out, only regenerating towards the end of my tank (within 100 miles of a fillup). I know this because I have an EGT gauge that goes towards 1100 degrees (indicating a regen cycle) vs the normal 600 F - 800 F. This does affect the mileage, at least in my case of about 7 mpg. On longer trips, I never see the regen cycle kick in....possibly because the car has been running for a long time and has passively burned off the soot and thats where I see mpgs in the mid to high 50s. Is TFL's test intentionally misleading? I would tend not to think so, just not as complete as it could be.
It is hard to compare 2wd vs 4wd trucks in mpg 4x4 it isn't just weight it's rotating mass too. I believe the Ford 2.7 Ecoboost in the 2wd configuration gets 26 mpg as tested by the EPA. Either way the Ecodiesel gets awesome mileage.
rogelv8td Read through the comments, these tests are being invalidated. In the real world, the Ecoboost is only slightly less efficient, stronger performing, and significantly cheaper overall.
sic22l *Not both. With diesel being roughly $.50 more per gallon nationally, and the diesel premium being $4,000 over a base engine, and with the higher cost of maintenance and repairs, it's not more economical. The Ford 2.7L ecoboost returns only a few MPG less, but costs significantly less and tows better than the Ecodiesel. If you're towing or trying to save money, there's no argument to be made for the Ecodiesel. www.edmunds.com/ram/1500/2014/long-term-road-test/2014-ram-1500-ecodiesel-fuel-economy-update- www.fuelly.com/car/ram/1500?engineconfig_id=8453&bodystyleconfig_id=&submodel_id= As you can see in these two links, the EPA's rating is pretty accurate.
For those that want real world numbers, 2014 Ram ecodiesel 2wd quad cab, ~17500 mi., towing some (1-2%) but mostly highway commute (70%): 9.6 cents/mi. fuel costs, 1/2 cent/mi. DEF (Blue DEF), 2 cents/mi. oil change (dealer cost). So 12 cents/mi. actual consumable cost.
It doesn't matter what this truck and engine can do just about every body seems to hate on this combo except for people that actually own one lol, Go figure!!! This is not a fast truck yes i know, diesel is more expensive to maintain yes i know, diesel is more expensive to buy in most areas yes i know. What most people don't seem to get is this is a truck speed is irrelevant as long as it reaches speed limit fully loaded while still getting really good fuel millage which this thing will do for you and its proven by countless amount of owners on you tube, when empty this truck does even better as far as i know this is the only truck that had it's EPA adjusted to give it higher numbers. In city it does suffer from more rejen cycles and having trouble warming up in the morning how ever it still beats the gas versions under same conditions of city driving. Hating on this engine makes no sense saying its has under developed internals with no sources to back it up because this people ( www.trucktrend.com/how-to/expert-advice/1208dp-banks-vm-motori-630t-v6-diesel-engine/ ) feel 100% other wise they call it great!!! As far as i'm concerned this was a better option than 5L Cummins for this truck reason is 5L cummins is just to much for half ton its more of a 3/4 ton engine which could of been nice in 2500Ram. Please remember this is just half ton if you wont work horse in half tone range there is a guy keeping great records of his ecodiesel used as work horse every day his videos are all over youtube just look him up ( mopar ecodiesel ) . So unless you know something I don't so far this engine while being in north america has pretty damn good track record ( this engine first arrived in Jeep about 2 years or so before Ram ) . If you wont fun fast truck yes this is not it but neither is Frod F150 with either 2.7 or 3.5 ecoboost in it but Ford Raptor is and you know it. This truck deserves credit where credit is due next step for 1500 Ram is keep this engine work out a tune to up the power (options to up the power already available aftermarket look up chipXpress) and go with aluminium body like Ford, needles to say Ford got same path but go with small diesel over there ecoboost engines because when you do use them as work trucks there millage still blows same as it did with V8's so than whats the point.
Impressive. However I think its a draw and largely dependent on driving style. If you consider that diesel is typically 20-30% more expensive than regular unleaded. Then the Ram 1500 really got an equivalent 27.5 mpg. Still very impressive. However the ram looses its luster when you factor in that you have to pay so much more to get that diesel option. I think from a cost of ownership point of view its a draw. But that can change base don rebates and incentives that any one manufacture may offer. I know i could be happy driving either.
How about real world numbers combining price of fuel,def, maintenance cost ,etc so a cost per mile can be calculated when figuring MPG numbers say based on 12000 mile per year....
I am genuinely impressed with the Ecodiesel engine, I know a guy with a Grand Cherokee and he loves it. The only real complaint he had was tha it sucked DEF like crazy. Apparently he was told that he could go 8,000 miles in a tank but he has been filling up in less than 4,000. Now all they need to do is make the ecodiesel engine more affordable. A 4WD Lone Star 1500 costs 3 grand more than a HEMI equipped equivalent.
Perfect, that's what I wanted to know. Your video answer my question. Thank you! I would love to see a video showing the MPG (empty) different with identical (or close to it) trucks with diesel engines but with different rear-axle ratios. Diesels have so much torque that I'm thinking the rear-end ratio may not be as much of a factor in empty (not loaded) MPG. I'm comfortable saying that a higher revving rear-end would get better MPG while towing..., or is it these days???
I've never really been a Ram fanboy, but that's actually fairly impressive with 50% better MPG than the gasoline rivals. However, the problem is diesel fuel is significantly more expensive than gasoline, so it almost doesn't matter when it comes to money out of your wallet.
Rolling resistance of the tires makes a huge difference too. I get crazy good fuel mileage in my 1998 Navigator with the Continental CrossContact LX20 Ecos and pretty much normal mileage with the Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor Pros. Same vehicle, same driver, same wheels, same size tire, just different rubber compound and tread pattern.
Personally I ain't sure how fair it is to add weight to make up for not having 4X4! A person yes but 4x4 no. When I get a truck I don't plan on adding extra weight if it ain't 4x4. Except for maybe winter if it snows.
well the epa highway cycle has a max speed of 60mph with a average of 48. So i would expect it to do better at a static speed and do better than its rated.
wow, those actual fuel consumption figures are impressive compared to the Ford 2.7L. I would expect the comparison to be even more impressive if they were each towing. yes the diesel option cost more but you'll get that cost back when you sell. compare the price of a 2000 ram diesel vs 2000 ram gas, that are similar in condition (plus factor in the longevity of a diesel engine, if you have driven a diesel with 300,000 miles and a gas engine with 300,000 miles, you'll know what I'm talking about) fuel economy is important to everyone's bottom line whether its a personal one or a business one.
notice the trip computer shows 20.7 mpg before he resets it...this is more reflective of your average daily mileage...my taco has never done worse than 24.5 city...if i could get 28 city in that truck id get so as to justify the 44k
so sick. and tows a decent amount.....well if i needed a truck of that stature i would consider one. HD Diesels for us.....but we do have an ecodiesel jeep if that counts LOL
wow...that is awesome! this truck really struggled up the Ike Gauntlet (which is extreme) but I think for everyday/normal type of towing this truck would be great.
Good thing you mentioned air temps and air density. However, I think you got extraordinary results with this truck because the extra weight loaded it up to trim the drag from air going under the truck and slightly trimmed the frontal area. Silverado30MPG.
Thanks a lot for doing this. I like that you guys do hand calculation to get the "true" MPG rather then the on board system which can be off by a lot (not in this case). The only thing I would suggest is to do a longer run (70+ miles) and do it for other cars also. Would love to see others aand see if they meet the MPG that they claim.
No extra weight should be added.... it's not rams fault that the Ford is 4 wheel drive and it's not ford's fault ram is a 2 wheel drive.. test them as they are.... and the winner would still be the same result and that's how a winner should be found.
This would be epic in Europe. Diesel cost 15-30 cents per Liter less than Gas. But the taxes are extremely high for Diesels, so the engine should be smaler than 3.5l und have Euro 4 or better.
Really? The 2016 F150 weighs 4,049 to 5,236 lbs, while the 2016 Ram 1500 weighs 4,516 to 5,659 lbs. . . and quite a bit of that 400 lb difference in the top weight trim is the added weight of the diesel.
James Grein Combine that advantage in weight with a diesel motor, and maybe find a way to get that weight under two tons, and you have something that will be unbeatable in economy for years to come.
Andre: Love your videos and those IKE challenges you do on my favorite trucks. I'd like to see you do this MPG test by taking a longer drive so that the margin of variation at refill time is very small compared to the amount of gas replaced into the tank. Anyway - I really appreciate you and Kent and Roman and Larry the cable guy ( I forgot his real name) are doing great work.
It's crazy to see hardly any other buildings around that gas station. I work at the National Archives building that is on that street now like 100 yards past that gas station and there are so many new houses and shit there. There is a Wendy's right next to the station now too lol.
very nice accurate test... here diesel is way more than gas so i always have to put in that factor. plus the cost of a diesel engine over and a gas and lastly of course the DEF in all current diesels. which adds to the overall cost
$44k msrp Most are sold competitively with incentives that take the price well below msrp. TBH though the diesel may not be worth it considering its large price increase over the hemi. It would take you a very long time to make up for it in mpg.
Mast3rSkillz It's only $2850 more than the hemi. $4000 more than the V6 pentastar. I get 27 avg. mpg commuting to work 30 mi. away. When towing my 5x10 enclosed box trailer, I typically get 18-22 depending on conditions. Truck is awesome.
Impressive numbers - currently diesel is cheaper in my area here in ontario - aprx 12c/L, I have not been watching diesel at all so I don't know the long term trend in this region. I just got back from a camping trip and met a guy that is has the new 3.0ED and says he is getting a 15L/100 km towing his camper - looked like a 5500lb to 6000lb rig - so that seems pretty good to me. I am in the market and was very impressed with Fords 2.7 but decided to hold off with rumors of the new 10 speed tranny. I wonder if they bring out the 2.7 with a new 10speed how it will match up with the 3.0ED? Why cant someone combine all the new techs -- ED with aluminum body? Is it that hard or is about having “their own thing to market”!! Things change so much now that you don't look to keep something more the 5yrs if you own and leasing pushing at 2 to 3yrs. Wondering if the ED will run on biodiesel? Thanks to all the folks that inputted without anger issues - cheers Patrick
WOW! That is fantastic fuel economy. Better than what my freaking car gets. Anyway, I would appreciate it if you guys finally mention that diesel fuel is indeed more expensive than gasoline. I feel that it is important to note, regardless of which truck gets better MPG.
+Fordguy1997 Well with more diesel cars and light trucks in U.S. diesel will be cheaper like in rest of the world. Also diesel cars consume less fuel that gasoline ones and resell price is better for diesel. :)
Matt. d. motorbike. What? Look up Mopar Ecodiesel on youtube. He has a 2014 Ram 1500 with the diesel and has almost 100,000 miles on it with regular maintenance and no issues. He want's to see if he can do 600,000 miles on that engine.
Brandon Friesen hmm, not saying your wrong but so many people are pissed because there truck is broken and stuck at the shop because there are no parts available.
Was this truck factory? ie: no tune kit, no after-market alterations? If so, considering it was equipped with the 3.92:1 rear end, this mileage is fantastic for a 1/2 ton, full size, American pickup!
Well the Eco diesel is a much more expensive engine option than the 2.7l. The Eco cost an additional $4,270 and the fords 2.7 adds $795. Also the dodge requires a higher trim than the ford. And like so many others have said diesels cost more to maintain and diesel costs more than gas. In my opinion the fords 2.7l is the better engine.
You can order an EcoDiesel in the lowly Tradesman package. Don't let the dealer tell you otherwise. The only restriction is a minimum wheelbase, and that only requires a longbed on a regular cab or a quad/crew cab configuration.
I heard that the Chevy Colorado Zr2 with Duramax diesel is suppose to get just as good or even better fuel economy than this truck.. I guess we will have to wait for it to come out this year
Mason Spohn Actually, older diesels were known for being reliable, but modern emissions controls have changed everything. Today, if you want reliability and lower repair cost, you're better off with a simple gas engine.
Mason Spohn Well, I didn't say anything about the Ecoboost.. With that being mentioned, It is still much simpler than a modern diesel. There are no complicated after-treatment systems or regeneration cycles to deal with, nor are you forced to deal with the issues of ULSD's low lubricity. Turbocharged gas engines aren't simple either, but they're still simpler than any of today's diesels. But ultimately, I think tried and true N/A V8 engines are still superior. They may not have the power on paper, but they still have their advantages without any of the complexities or higher costs.
..and that is why Ram is selling every EcoDiesel they can make.
1guyin10 and now they can't even sell them
I just found mine, used (2015) at a Honda dealership where they had picked it up on auction. There is little to no wiggle room when dealing with them on these trucks - everyone wants 'em.
No other full size truck beats this truck in the world for fuel economy.
I have 100,000 miles on my 2014 Laramie 3.0l ecodiesel and it is still solid, never dropped since new at 30 miles.
17-19 mpg towing,
19 city
24mpg with 2000lbs in the bed highway
27-29mpg highway @65mph no trailer or load.
3.55 rear end.
I love my truck.
Dude its an awesome truck . way better than the new gmcs and fords
What are you towing with it?
mopar ecodiesel how is your egr cooler holding up? I just hit 100000 k and it leaks and I’m planning on doing the all the deletes .
Bull shit. Piece of garbage
Great video!! The US needs to wake up and allow manufacturers to put 4 and 6 cylinder diesels in trucks and passenger cars. Forget all that hybrid crap.
I'm a Ford guy, I owned a crown vic, and now own a 93 f150 2wd 4.9 with 297,000 miles but guess what, when I get a new job, truck I'm getting? This truck! Just love the interior, love the instrument cluster, love the amount of info you can see and of course this engine! Funny thing is I've always hated Chrysler products but I think Fiat is doing a good job.
Nathan isn't a pound over 350!!! ;)
I always wished the Dodge Dakota would've come with a 4-cyl diesel option. I loved my Dakota. Had 2 of them actually. A 4 banger diesel would've made the Dak flawless.
wow that is amazing ....very efficient
Great video Andre! This video helped me decide to get an ecodiesel and I've only had it do 2 weeks but I've hit 1,300 miles (about 150 miles have been empty) of towing my sailboat and the truck amazes me! Towing my 4,900 lb. boat I get the same mpg my 2008 hemi got empty!! I watch all the tfltruck videos and look forward to the new ones that pop up on my news feed.
I've had my ecodiesel since August and all I have to say is WOW! The MPG is off the charts. I thought that the increase in the price of diesel might make buying it not worth it, but I took a chance anyway. I'm so glad I did. I drive 50 miles one way to work and I am getting anywhere from 26.5 miles to the gal. on bad weather days to 31.5 on nice days. This truck was worth every penny. I also can't believe how quiet it is, it really is amazing.
Diesel MPG is WAAAAAAAAAAY different than Gas MPG. So, the 2.7L EcoBoost has best-in class GAS MPGs, but, the Ram has best-in-class DIESEL MPGs(Mostly because it' she only diesel in it's class!)
Still praying for the moment Chrysler throws this engine in the 300.
well there have been reports of both, theres a dude on youtube that uses his eco diesel ram across north america, hes at 137k with no problems
+Jacob Rolls this engine is already in the 300, just not in north america.
+Jacob Rolls mopar ecodiesels engine failed at 148k
Lol, 1 tank of fuel last you a year!
Adam Baker I remember watching that, I forget what the actual issue was, but he opted to swap motors instead of repairing.
Just got a 2018 ram like ecodiesel so excited. Mpg currently around 24 on the highway (75 mph usually) but still breaking in the engine.
My ‘05 sebring (4 cyl. I4, 4 speed auto) barely gets 30 mpg on a good strip of highway @ 70 mph, thats awesome. I might be able to afford that $40k+ pricetag one day, til then, my gas vehicles are paid in full :).
I love the typical butt hurt comments in the comment section. So many people were begging for a diesel in a half ton and Ram finally delivered and it gets best in class gas mileage to boot. If you tow a lot or drive highway a lot, the diesel will give you your money back in no time. This is a LIFESTYLE truck, not necessarily a mall runner like the 2.7 ecoboost that many mom's will drive. It's efficient, good looking, and it gets the job done. If we were talking 3 years ago about the same truck no one would care about diesel prices because gas prices were at $4/gallon.
Manpreet Singh And at the same time diesel fuel was hovering around $4.85-$5 per gallon. You also gloss over the fact that purchasing and maintaining a diesel is more expensive than a comparable gas engine. Personally, I like diesels, I just think the advantage is wasted in a 1500 or compact truck like the Frontier or Colorado/Canyon. This engine would've been great in the 80s or 90s but not when compared to today's trucks. Sure, it has enough torque to pull like there's no tomorrow, but it's slow as masalas! It lacks the power to move out of it's own way.
Daniel Bell How is it wasted in a 1/2 ton truck but it's ok in a small Volkswagen where diesels also get great mileage? The U.S. is just behind the curve on this issue and it shows in these comment sections. The amount of resistance even when faced with incredible results in a video directly above the comment section is unbelievable.
If you're towing 9k lbs up the Ike gauntlet everyday then obviously this isn't the truck for you. But that's what everyone is basing their opinions off of. For an everyday truck you'll be saving a lot more moolah and it has enough grunt to get out of its own way. If you wanna be winning drag races and not saving money, then obviously this isn't the truck for you. I'm still waiting for the day ford comes out with a half ton diesel, the fan boys will be out in full force on that one.
Skeld Are you seriously comparing a small passenger car to a 3 ton truck and you can't work out why it doesn't work the same way?
Skeld Most other nations prefer gasoline engines in light vehicles, not just the US. And if the US is behind the curve, why is diesel losing favor with Europeans?
www.fleeteurope.com/news/diesel-losing-popularity-france
www.autonews.com/article/20150216/OEM/302169996/has-diesel-had-its-day-in-europe
www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/diesel-dominance-threatened-eu-emissions-rules
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/11280067/London-will-follow-Paris-and-ban-diesel-cars-campaigners-warn.html
Better mileage then my 4cyl Accord! Lol
How anybody could ever have thought that a turbocharged V6 gas engine has better fuel economy or towing capability than a V6 diesel engine.
The eco diesel is a great engine and THE logical engine choice for a half ton truck.
The perversity is that in some states of the US diesel costs more than gas. I may be wrong but I guess you won't find that anywhere in the (western) world but in the US.
Bruningable diesel is more expensive than gas in Canada as well
You're right, there is such a bias against diesel in North America. Anywhere else in the world it is diesel, not batteries. I also believe the bias is rooted in something other than logic...
The taxes make most of the fuel price. You in the U.S. are blessed compared to many European countries. However, Diesel fuel contains more energy, which is why vehicles consume a bit less compared to gas. It would be logical if Diesel was more expensive everywhere but the governments wants the transportation sector and the economy to be competitive so taxes are kept within a reasonable range.
I am sorry, but I disagree. In the US it is environmental concerns (that I disagree with) that drive the price as well as taxes. Here they made diesel a low sulfer content diesel which is less efficient and does not lubricate as well causing the engine to have more issues and a shorter life. If these people were really concerned about what they say, there would be a bigger push for diesel because of efficiency and that the engines last so long. The fact that they hang their collective hats on batteries without allowing more power plants to be built tells me their aim is not to save anything but to curb our freedoms, one of which is free and easy travel.
Slowing down traffic and increasing cost of travel is happening for various reasons (i also heavily disagree). In Germany and several other countries Diesel cars are a dying breed. Recently cities have been allowed to ban diesels because of micro particles and NOx emissions. In the last decade there had been a crusade against emissions and the VW scandal was the pinnacle of all this. The technology was heading into a dead end and innovations for the last decade were only made to control the emissions. I am sort of indecisive because i also think Diesels have their reason to exist but on the other hand the production cost went out of hand, manufacturers cheated on their customers and all this only run overweight SUVs for reasonable cost within cities. This is madness. In Trucks and HD vehicles Diesels have their reason but within normal cars, no They are too much and despite all filtering and catalytic converter improvements they simply stink really bad. Also Diesels are no fun to drive in normal cars.
44 grand and you get cloth seats
Ivy Wells Which dont stink after having been in the sun all day.
Ivy Wells That's the MSRP. More than likely it's well below that when getting it from the dealer. Our local dealership has an "as low-as" price for the 2015 crew-cab laramie limited for $43k. Take the MSRP with a grain of salt.
ok, that makes it much more appealing.
+Dragon Butt (ThatsNoMoon) If you ever had a fortune of sitting in car with natural leather, you wont say. We are not talking about variety of "bonded leather" offered by Kia/Hyunday, Honda, and Toyota.
trance20001 I just dont like leather. it smells funny, and is sticky in the heat.
I prefer the japanese idealology. Cotton and wool all the way :3
Impressive difference between the 3.0L EcoDiesel and 2.7L EcoBoost. 11 mpg difference is huge!
Nothing suprising here, that's as expected (and very impressive).
The only thing I might suggest in an attempt to "standardize" your tests is to use the same driver. Driving habits can vary greatly between people, and is probably one of the biggest variables in your test.
Cruise control
Angel Garcia No. I'm talking about the variability in accelerating from a stop.
farmerallis it's a hwy test drive at 65 mph on cruise control.
Crazy! I'd love to see a HEMI with the 8 speed try this. I just bought one and it has all of 100 miles on it so far. I took it on the highway and at 65 mph for about 10 miles I was getting 26 mpg per the computer. I have 3.21 gears. EPA is 21 mpg!!
I get that my little test is just that, and no I was not going down hill! Lol
Would love to see it in a controlled environment and with it's most popular engine/transmission.
I have a hemi 4x4 with 3:21 and Ecodiesel with 3:92. Diesel averages about 10 more mpg. Yes, I've gotten 25 mpg with the hemi, but the diesel is unreal! EPA IS BS
i cannot like this enough !!
Wtf 33.6? That's better than my ATS.
If you're buying a diesel, buy a big one don't buy these little wimpy things... Parts are going to be very expensive for these ecodiesels... You're better off buying a gasoline engine.. Diesel is for big hauls and when something goes wrong in a diesel you could be looking at a major repair bill especially if this has a DPF.. Over heating will be a big problem.
What would also be helpful is if you disclosed the the current price of the diesel vs gas per gal where you fill up and what the cost of your fill up was. MPG is a good gauge of a vehicles efficiency but not the only factor for end users cost.
Check the video at 5:53. The price is $2.089 vs. $2.499. 20% fuel premium for 50% better economy.
Rodger Mills Gas and diesel prices are constantly in flux, and they vary by region. You're better off doing the math for yourself.
It's a piece of shit. Don't buy any Ram trucks. I just bought one in October 2018. $6500 in repairs on 6 months including 2 air suspension compressor and I don't EVER tow
As an owner since the original line of trucks I cannot stress this fact enough .... DELETES DELETES DELETES! The truck has more power runs better better fuel economy and now my engine isn’t getting regularly filled with soot from the environmental systems. Also these trucks hate anything colder then -30
So Andre are you saying that an entire 4 Wheel drive system weighs only about fifteen pounds?
Just Joking Sir Nate!
Great Job Andre!
Not bad. My sweat spot.
And lol, 450 pounds of cinder blocks. Didn't think he was that fat XD
Yeah, but who cares when diesel costs a dollar more than gas AND you have to pay for that stupid DEF? You lose money hand over fist with this thing, and that's AFTER paying the massive price premium for the engine
Great video, Andre. Thank you.
All you guys need to stop swearing if you cannot write speak or describe your opinions properly you have no business commenting you guys sound like your still in special ed in school. There's no right or wrong answer let each man decide what he wants if the truck make him happy so be it. If you do not agree with TFLT then don't watch it.
Here's the deal with this truck that no one seems to get or realize. With the very high price of diesel there is no mpg king with this truck, you're actually paying way more to operate this truck than the biggest most powerful gas engine truck. 2. The biggest most powerful gas engine truck pulls more and has more horse power and torque. 3. This truck does not have the pull weight of a half ton truck with the 5.7 hemi and does not have the higher horsepower and torque. 4. This truck can only carry and pull loads that a regular gas engine half ton truck can carry and haul, when actually the half ton truck does it better and can carry and haul/pull heavier weights and loads. So there is absolutely no payoff or gain with this truck whatsoever. You're actually spending way more money to operate this truck than a half ton gas engine truck, and the half ton gas engine truck does it better and can haul and pull more weight and is far cheaper to operate. There is absolutely no payoff with or to operate this truck and you can't haul or pull as much and are paying far more to operate it. Stupid actually and stupid idea to even produce a truck like this.
I get 30 in my 2015 4x4 silverado at 55 mph why would I buy a piece of shit dodge and pay more for feul not to mention payload and maintenance cost are more with a diesel engine. Not worth the money in my opinion.
Thanks for the mpg test guys but the Ike told me everything I needed to know about that truck. It's a dud!
How so?
mattheginger On the power side of the test. This truck could barely make it up the Ike with the same weight the Ecoboost F150 had. The few dollars it's saves you in fuel isn't worth having a truck that can't pull. It's a nice truck for hauling a motorcycle or something else on a small scale but definitely not a work truck like the F-150. Dodge needs to use the v8 Cummins motor for this truck in my opinion. I've considered purchasing this truck but thank God for these test because now i know better. Thanks FLT.
BTW The new Nissan Titan will blow the doors off of this DUD! Watch!
MrJwh3000 And I think it could be about 23-26 on the same test likely.
Your mpg numbers would be better if u guys would quit running that awful Murphy fuel. Go get some Bp or shell
what kind of mpg at 75 to 80?
Good to see more of Andre!
Well stated on the regeneration cycle of diesels. I recently purchased a "15 Passat TDI and its highway runs were averaging 45 mpg. Then I noticed a drop to 39 mpg for a couple of days and then right back to 45 mpg. It has since leveled out, only regenerating towards the end of my tank (within 100 miles of a fillup). I know this because I have an EGT gauge that goes towards 1100 degrees (indicating a regen cycle) vs the normal 600 F - 800 F. This does affect the mileage, at least in my case of about 7 mpg. On longer trips, I never see the regen cycle kick in....possibly because the car has been running for a long time and has passively burned off the soot and thats where I see mpgs in the mid to high 50s. Is TFL's test intentionally misleading? I would tend not to think so, just not as complete as it could be.
This truck doesn't save you money.
Considering the larger initial cost and $100 oil changes.
3rd Gen Guy if you get a used one.
It is hard to compare 2wd vs 4wd trucks in mpg 4x4 it isn't just weight it's rotating mass too. I believe the Ford 2.7 Ecoboost in the 2wd configuration gets 26 mpg as tested by the EPA. Either way the Ecodiesel gets awesome mileage.
Fifty percent more fuel efficient than the 2.7 Ecoboost I´m impressed And this is why Ford needs to sell the 3.2 diesel Ranger in USA
rogelv8td Read through the comments, these tests are being invalidated. In the real world, the Ecoboost is only slightly less efficient, stronger performing, and significantly cheaper overall.
John Z If you do a lot of highway driving, Ecodiesle is much more efficient all the time.
sic22l More efficient, but not necessarily more economical.
John Z Both.
sic22l *Not both.
With diesel being roughly $.50 more per gallon nationally, and the diesel premium being $4,000 over a base engine, and with the higher cost of maintenance and repairs, it's not more economical. The Ford 2.7L ecoboost returns only a few MPG less, but costs significantly less and tows better than the Ecodiesel. If you're towing or trying to save money, there's no argument to be made for the Ecodiesel.
www.edmunds.com/ram/1500/2014/long-term-road-test/2014-ram-1500-ecodiesel-fuel-economy-update-
www.fuelly.com/car/ram/1500?engineconfig_id=8453&bodystyleconfig_id=&submodel_id=
As you can see in these two links, the EPA's rating is pretty accurate.
For those that want real world numbers, 2014 Ram ecodiesel 2wd quad cab, ~17500 mi., towing some (1-2%) but mostly highway commute (70%): 9.6 cents/mi. fuel costs, 1/2 cent/mi. DEF (Blue DEF), 2 cents/mi. oil change (dealer cost).
So 12 cents/mi. actual consumable cost.
You can buy a gallon and a half of gas for 1 gal of diesel. So kind of a wash
It doesn't matter what this truck and engine can do just about every body seems to hate on this combo except for people that actually own one lol, Go figure!!!
This is not a fast truck yes i know, diesel is more expensive to maintain yes i know, diesel is more expensive to buy in most areas yes i know. What most people don't seem to get is this is a truck speed is irrelevant as long as it reaches speed limit fully loaded while still getting really good fuel millage which this thing will do for you and its proven by countless amount of owners on you tube, when empty this truck does even better as far as i know this is the only truck that had it's EPA adjusted to give it higher numbers. In city it does suffer from more rejen cycles and having trouble warming up in the morning how ever it still beats the gas versions under same conditions of city driving. Hating on this engine makes no sense saying its has under developed internals with no sources to back it up because this people ( www.trucktrend.com/how-to/expert-advice/1208dp-banks-vm-motori-630t-v6-diesel-engine/ ) feel 100% other wise they call it great!!! As far as i'm concerned this was a better option than 5L Cummins for this truck reason is 5L cummins is just to much for half ton its more of a 3/4 ton engine which could of been nice in 2500Ram. Please remember this is just half ton if you wont work horse in half tone range there is a guy keeping great records of his ecodiesel used as work horse every day his videos are all over youtube just look him up ( mopar ecodiesel ) . So unless you know something I don't so far this engine while being in north america has pretty damn good track record ( this engine first arrived in Jeep about 2 years or so before Ram ) .
If you wont fun fast truck yes this is not it but neither is Frod F150 with either 2.7 or 3.5 ecoboost in it but Ford Raptor is and you know it. This truck deserves credit where credit is due next step for 1500 Ram is keep this engine work out a tune to up the power (options to up the power already available aftermarket look up chipXpress) and go with aluminium body like Ford, needles to say Ford got same path but go with small diesel over there ecoboost engines because when you do use them as work trucks there millage still blows same as it did with V8's so than whats the point.
Impressive. However I think its a draw and largely dependent on driving style.
If you consider that diesel is typically 20-30% more expensive than regular unleaded. Then the Ram 1500 really got an equivalent 27.5 mpg. Still very impressive.
However the ram looses its luster when you factor in that you have to pay so much more to get that diesel option. I think from a cost of ownership point of view its a draw. But that can change base don rebates and incentives that any one manufacture may offer.
I know i could be happy driving either.
How about real world numbers combining price of fuel,def, maintenance cost ,etc so a cost per mile can be calculated when figuring MPG numbers say based on 12000 mile per year....
I am genuinely impressed with the Ecodiesel engine, I know a guy with a Grand Cherokee and he loves it. The only real complaint he had was tha it sucked DEF like crazy. Apparently he was told that he could go 8,000 miles in a tank but he has been filling up in less than 4,000. Now all they need to do is make the ecodiesel engine more affordable. A 4WD Lone Star 1500 costs 3 grand more than a HEMI equipped equivalent.
+The Fast Lane Truck y'all should get a 2017 RAM 1500 Lone Star Long Bed Regular Cab 4X4 with the 3.0L Ecodiesel
Perfect, that's what I wanted to know. Your video answer my question. Thank you! I would love to see a video showing the MPG (empty) different with identical (or close to it) trucks with diesel engines but with different rear-axle ratios. Diesels have so much torque that I'm thinking the rear-end ratio may not be as much of a factor in empty (not loaded) MPG. I'm comfortable saying that a higher revving rear-end would get better MPG while towing..., or is it these days???
33.2819723 MPG my ass.
I've never really been a Ram fanboy, but that's actually fairly impressive with 50% better MPG than the gasoline rivals. However, the problem is diesel fuel is significantly more expensive than gasoline, so it almost doesn't matter when it comes to money out of your wallet.
Rolling resistance of the tires makes a huge difference too. I get crazy good fuel mileage in my 1998 Navigator with the Continental CrossContact LX20 Ecos and pretty much normal mileage with the Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor Pros.
Same vehicle, same driver, same wheels, same size tire, just different rubber compound and tread pattern.
Personally I ain't sure how fair it is to add weight to make up for not having 4X4! A person yes but 4x4 no. When I get a truck I don't plan on adding extra weight if it ain't 4x4. Except for maybe winter if it snows.
well the epa highway cycle has a max speed of 60mph with a average of 48. So i would expect it to do better at a static speed and do better than its rated.
wow, those actual fuel consumption figures are impressive compared to the Ford 2.7L. I would expect the comparison to be even more impressive if they were each towing.
yes the diesel option cost more but you'll get that cost back when you sell. compare the price of a 2000 ram diesel vs 2000 ram gas, that are similar in condition (plus factor in the longevity of a diesel engine, if you have driven a diesel with 300,000 miles and a gas engine with 300,000 miles, you'll know what I'm talking about)
fuel economy is important to everyone's bottom line whether its a personal one or a business one.
If you buy one, absolutely get the GDE Hot Tune! A lot more power and torque, I'm getting 31-33 mpg and no more EGR!
notice the trip computer shows 20.7 mpg before he resets it...this is more reflective of your average daily mileage...my taco has never done worse than 24.5 city...if i could get 28 city in that truck id get so as to justify the 44k
so sick. and tows a decent amount.....well if i needed a truck of that stature i would consider one. HD Diesels for us.....but we do have an ecodiesel jeep if that counts LOL
I generally dislike comparing gas mpg to diesel mpg because of the varying price differences
wow...that is awesome! this truck really struggled up the Ike Gauntlet (which is extreme) but I think for everyday/normal type of towing this truck would be great.
Good thing you mentioned air temps and air density. However, I think you got extraordinary results with this truck because the extra weight loaded it up to trim the drag from air going under the truck and slightly trimmed the frontal area. Silverado30MPG.
They need to throw this motor in the Durango and maybe a jeep and chrysler 300....it would hate F##k the competition
This right here is what sells me on the EcoDiesel. And i'd say this sets it firmly ahead of the F-150 ecoboost in terms of fuel economy.
That was nice but now you have to find out the worst MPG while towing smth or with fully loaded bed.
Thanks a lot for doing this. I like that you guys do hand calculation to get the "true" MPG rather then the on board system which can be off by a lot (not in this case). The only thing I would suggest is to do a longer run (70+ miles) and do it for other cars also. Would love to see others aand see if they meet the MPG that they claim.
Diesel wins by a long shot. If a half ton get 33mpg will the Colorado from chevy with a diesel get 40 mpg?
I would like the light weight aluminum rust proof body of the F150 with this eco diesel 8 speed. Frankly, I would just like a truck period.
What's up with the Check Engine Light ON?
That was because he didnt have car on, only the power
About 40% better MPG than the 2.7L F-150 ... impressive !
Can you guys do a mpg test on a 2015 Silverado LT Z71 4x4 please! Thank you!!!!!
No extra weight should be added.... it's not rams fault that the Ford is 4 wheel drive and it's not ford's fault ram is a 2 wheel drive.. test them as they are.... and the winner would still be the same result and that's how a winner should be found.
This engine in the Ford F150 * ____ *
blubb7711 better yet that mpg in the F150 not the engine that thing is weak and boring haha
blubb7711 Oh yeah. A light duty diesel in an aluminum bodied pickup? 40mpg easy.
This would be epic in Europe.
Diesel cost 15-30 cents per Liter less than Gas.
But the taxes are extremely high for Diesels, so the engine should be smaler than 3.5l und have Euro 4 or better.
Really? The 2016 F150 weighs 4,049 to 5,236 lbs, while the 2016 Ram 1500 weighs 4,516 to 5,659 lbs. . . and quite a bit of that 400 lb difference in the top weight trim is the added weight of the diesel.
James Grein
Combine that advantage in weight with a diesel motor, and maybe find a way to get that weight under two tons, and you have something that will be unbeatable in economy for years to come.
Now I'm curious to see the MPG's of the other engine options on all the brands. Especially the 5.3L on the Chevy.
He must got alot of money to be filling that truck with diesel especially cuz it's expensive
Andre: Love your videos and those IKE challenges you do on my favorite trucks. I'd like to see you do this MPG test by taking a longer drive so that the margin of variation at refill time is very small compared to the amount of gas replaced into the tank.
Anyway - I really appreciate you and Kent and Roman and Larry the cable guy ( I forgot his real name) are doing great work.
It's crazy to see hardly any other buildings around that gas station. I work at the National Archives building that is on that street now like 100 yards past that gas station and there are so many new houses and shit there. There is a Wendy's right next to the station now too lol.
very nice accurate test... here diesel is way more than gas so i always have to put in that factor. plus the cost of a diesel engine over and a gas and lastly of course the DEF in all current diesels. which adds to the overall cost
You said 46 grand holy molly !
$44k msrp
Most are sold competitively with incentives that take the price well below msrp. TBH though the diesel may not be worth it considering its large price increase over the hemi. It would take you a very long time to make up for it in mpg.
Mast3rSkillz It's only $2850 more than the hemi. $4000 more than the V6 pentastar. I get 27 avg. mpg commuting to work 30 mi. away. When towing my 5x10 enclosed box trailer, I typically get 18-22 depending on conditions. Truck is awesome.
+Mast3rSkillz no you would not , an approximation was done in another review, the hemi cost 2x more to run a year than the ecodiesel.
is there any difference between the 2015 and the 2020 ram eco diesel crew cab as far as the rear seats space and comfort?
This is on very flat terrain. I get around 31 mpg in hilly Maine.
Just about lost it when he was talking about Nathan saying no offence and then he said 440 pounds lol
u said 65 mph the truck screen said 53 average mph big diffrence
Impressive numbers - currently diesel is cheaper in my area here in ontario - aprx 12c/L, I have not been watching diesel at all so I don't know the long term trend in this region.
I just got back from a camping trip and met a guy that is has the new 3.0ED and says he is getting a 15L/100 km towing his camper - looked like a 5500lb to 6000lb rig - so that seems pretty good to me. I am in the market and was very impressed with Fords 2.7 but decided to hold off with rumors of the new 10 speed tranny. I wonder if they bring out the 2.7 with a new 10speed how it will match up with the 3.0ED? Why cant someone combine all the new techs -- ED with aluminum body? Is it that hard or is about having “their own thing to market”!! Things change so much now that you don't look to keep something more the 5yrs if you own and leasing pushing at 2 to 3yrs.
Wondering if the ED will run on biodiesel?
Thanks to all the folks that inputted without anger issues - cheers Patrick
Yes the Eco diesel is bio diesel compatible
WOW! That is fantastic fuel economy. Better than what my freaking car gets. Anyway, I would appreciate it if you guys finally mention that diesel fuel is indeed more expensive than gasoline. I feel that it is important to note, regardless of which truck gets better MPG.
+Fordguy1997 Well with more diesel cars and light trucks in U.S. diesel will be cheaper like in rest of the world. Also diesel cars consume less fuel that gasoline ones and resell price is better for diesel. :)
dodge makes the best.trucks . and this is a perfect 3 liter example .
WOW
now this is cool.
Check out how much routine service cost on this vehicle. scary!
10 mpg more than eco boom I think that’s really nice I can’t wait to test drive the new ones coming out soon
mpg's dont mean shit to me, I want cost per mile! its the only way for apples to apples.
Pretty sure the ram will be much cheaper. Over 11mpg better and slightly higher fuel costs. That's a definite win for the ecodiesel
Yes these things are breaking everywhere... So yea still cheaper to drive a gas hog
Matt. d. motorbike. What? Look up Mopar Ecodiesel on youtube. He has a 2014 Ram 1500 with the diesel and has almost 100,000 miles on it with regular maintenance and no issues. He want's to see if he can do 600,000 miles on that engine.
Brandon Friesen hmm, not saying your wrong but so many people are pissed because there truck is broken and stuck at the shop because there are no parts available.
thegreatga that 3.0L has $100 oil changes every 4K though.
Great job Andre. Keep them coming.
You guys should do a video on 5.7 hemi vs the 2.7 ecoboost
Plz do a test of towing around 7000 to 8000lbs mpg
Lol, extra weight for Nathan! Good one.
Was this truck factory? ie: no tune kit, no after-market alterations? If so, considering it was equipped with the 3.92:1 rear end, this mileage is fantastic for a 1/2 ton, full size, American pickup!
The only caveat here is this run looks totally flat. Here in Western Oregon, where we live, the terrain is anything but flat.
Well the Eco diesel is a much more expensive engine option than the 2.7l. The Eco cost an additional $4,270 and the fords 2.7 adds $795. Also the dodge requires a higher trim than the ford. And like so many others have said diesels cost more to maintain and diesel costs more than gas. In my opinion the fords 2.7l is the better engine.
You can order an EcoDiesel in the lowly Tradesman package. Don't let the dealer tell you otherwise. The only restriction is a minimum wheelbase, and that only requires a longbed on a regular cab or a quad/crew cab configuration.
That is a un fair matchup because dissell vs gas really
Need to drive further to increase accuracy
I heard that the Chevy Colorado Zr2 with Duramax diesel is suppose to get just as good or even better fuel economy than this truck.. I guess we will have to wait for it to come out this year
The Colorado is not in the same class as the ram, so they won't be tested together.
you guys are slacking on the content
Nobody is considering that a small turbo gas engine that is faster than the eco diesel is probably a lot less reliable
Mason Spohn Actually, older diesels were known for being reliable, but modern emissions controls have changed everything. Today, if you want reliability and lower repair cost, you're better off with a simple gas engine.
Justin E but the 2.7 liter eco boost isn't a simple gas engine
Mason Spohn Well, I didn't say anything about the Ecoboost.. With that being mentioned, It is still much simpler than a modern diesel. There are no complicated after-treatment systems or regeneration cycles to deal with, nor are you forced to deal with the issues of ULSD's low lubricity. Turbocharged gas engines aren't simple either, but they're still simpler than any of today's diesels. But ultimately, I think tried and true N/A V8 engines are still superior. They may not have the power on paper, but they still have their advantages without any of the complexities or higher costs.
Mason Spohn You seem to have glossed over the increased costs of a diesel over a comparable gas engine yourself.