Why Sonic Heroes CAN'T Get Remastered

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  • @SFproductions1
    @SFproductions1  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    for everyone saying this video aged like milk
    "Remaster" and "Remake" are two completely different things
    I even mention in this video how they could remake the game in a different engine which is what the leak says they're doing

    • @dayonnn1
      @dayonnn1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank god you jinxed this in to reality

    • @KrheanosIsland
      @KrheanosIsland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      how did bro know we were immediately going to come here 🤨🤨

    • @vani-lla
      @vani-lla 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Colours Ultimate uses Hedgehog Engine with Godot.
      This potential Heroes remake could just be Renderware running alongside Unreal Engine.

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@vani-llarenderware can't run on modern hardware so no

    • @vani-lla
      @vani-lla 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SFproductions1 I wouldn't rule it out just yet.
      A good recent example is the GTA Definitive Trilogy.
      The original GTA games on PS2 used Renderware, and the new Definitve versions are using Unreal Engine 4.
      From what I understand, what the devs did was basically use Unreal 4 to translate the code from the old engine to the new.
      So internally, the games are still made and function as if they're using Renderware.
      Not a programmer though, so the explanation might not be the most accurate lol
      We'll have to wait and see how things go either way.

  • @cepherinorodriguez8995
    @cepherinorodriguez8995 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The only reason why Sonic Heroes had mixed reviews was because they didn't address the problems of prior Sonic Games, such as camera and voice acting. all i can say is, Sonic Heroes was a commercial success, not a faliure though.

  • @KingTvlip
    @KingTvlip 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It must suck a lot being a Sonic fan who grew up in the 2000s watching most of the games you played back then never being ported to PC or modern consoles. It's me, I'm fans who grew up in the 2000s

  • @STAXONDECK1
    @STAXONDECK1 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    We need a Sonic All Stars with SA, SA2, Heroes, & Shadow

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      SEGA will not listen to you

    • @STAXONDECK1
      @STAXONDECK1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jamesdeanrodriguez1791 why not

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@STAXONDECK1Because it's TRASH

    • @GoofyPoptart
      @GoofyPoptart ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jamesdeanrodriguez1791Speak for yourself not anyone else. I'd love to see that...see he already got someone else on board don't be negative you're a weirdo.

    • @fiblz5443
      @fiblz5443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      huh???

  • @BasementDweller_
    @BasementDweller_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Well luckily we are getting a remake.

    • @mr_red3
      @mr_red3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unlikely

    • @Dakr2000
      @Dakr2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Source: trust me bro

    • @FrazzaJazz
      @FrazzaJazz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dakr2000Source: Midori

  • @CSTH1
    @CSTH1 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I would just really like to play some of the older Sonic games like this and Riders on Modern hardware. I honestly hate having to use emulators so I can a game because the developers have never rereleased it. I’m glad I got to play Colors through Colors Ultimate. I was really hyped for that game before release, and after playing it, I can say that it’s my favorite Sonic game (or even favorite game for that matter). I know many people either hate Colors Ultimate or don’t care about it, but I honestly love it. Consider it a guilty pleasure of mine…

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You need to get Colors on Wii.
      Ultimate would have delivered it better if it didn’t blow up in Blind Squirrel’s face.

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Colors....is your favorite ? Patheticly nerfed, blocky slow 2D, mostly on-rails, padding fest, cringe fest Colors ? LMFAO Lost cause

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mazkeraid4039And it would still suck.

  • @Martyste
    @Martyste ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I'm not sure Renderware would be the biggest roadblock. Asterix & Obelix XXL was developped partially with Renderware and that didn't stop this game from getting a remaster in 2020, from an editor that isn't famous for paying its dev teams very well or giving them enough time, so a partnership with big EA would have been out of question. And yeah, while that Remaster had its own main engine + remaster engine running together, there are still some uses of Renderware assets.

    • @conorrynne9694
      @conorrynne9694 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Persona 4 was also done in Renderware yet P4G got a remaster

    • @PieStudios
      @PieStudios ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@conorrynne9694P4G on the vita wasn’t in renderware, so the PC port wasn’t difficult in that regard.

    • @bitzgames
      @bitzgames ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PieStudiosThen that leaves us with a question - how did they port the game to Vita WITHOUT Renderware?

    • @PieStudios
      @PieStudios ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bitzgames they remade it in a new engine? Lmao

  • @cepherinorodriguez8995
    @cepherinorodriguez8995 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Despite what you really said, the mixed reception doesn't necessarily involve anything. Sonic Unleashed also got mixed reviews, yet it can be re-release. Yes it was re-released, but on the modern Xbox Consoles via Backwards Compatibility.

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's not a re release. It's ran on emulation through xbox

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they want to Remaster Sonic Unleashed. I'll give them that

    • @PerciTheWolf
      @PerciTheWolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@SFproductions1I don’t think that’s what they said, what they probably meant by is Sega re release both Sonic Unleashed and 06 on the Xbox marketplace after Sega delisted those games 10 years or so, meaning Heroes can definitely have a re released or use Backwards Compatibility.

    • @squiddyword7224
      @squiddyword7224 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s not a re-release. Thats allowing it to be purchased and played off older hardware.

    • @squiddyword7224
      @squiddyword7224 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PerciTheWolfThey only allowed us to buy Unleashed and even then, Heores wasn’t on the 360. They’re not gonna put a game on an old console just for people to buy it. It’s not gonna make any money

  • @swr.nezumi
    @swr.nezumi ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The thing about Sonic Colors Ultimate is that it's a weird amalgamation of a remake and a remaster with how it was developed. If Sonic Heroes was *fully* remade, it would probably turn out way better.

  • @Adrien1903
    @Adrien1903 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Zipo and Midori : "You was saying?"

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read pinned and watch the video lmfao

  • @rezenhasqn8308
    @rezenhasqn8308 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People forgot the biggest reason of why a Heroes remake now is so unlike to happen, story/continuity
    Let me explain: Sega and Sonic Team are in a mission, a mission to atract new fans to the games and lore of Sonic, if they are making remakes, they probably are going to make remakes to the prequels first: Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, and theeen they would make a Heroes remake so that, the new fans would follow correct order of events, cuz if not, new fans would not understand why Shadow was found in the Eggman's lab for example, in my opinion they will first make a pack of the 2 adventure remakes (they should really call in "Sonic Adventures" I think is a genius idea for the name)

    • @rezenhasqn8308
      @rezenhasqn8308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A big example that Sega is trying to teach new fans of the Sonic lore is Sonic Origins, they don't just added the animated cutscenes just to be pretty and cool, they added these cutscenes so then people would understand and follow better the story and continuity of the classic games, that's why they also added Story Mode, so new fans would follow the story the way if happened

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@rezenhasqn8308Bro responded to himself 💀

    • @rezenhasqn8308
      @rezenhasqn8308 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jamesdeanrodriguez1791 it's a complementary comment

    • @appleandaria6947
      @appleandaria6947 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That would be smart! Remaking SA1, then SA2, then (a hopefully massively improved) _Shadow the Hedgehog_ followed by a _Sonic Heroes_ remake. If they have the courage, they could also remake _Sonic Chronicles: Dark Brotherhood_ and restore its status to canon. And if a certain Ken Penders is petty enough to sue Sega _again_ he'll probably lose this time and have to admit Sega is the real owner of all those characters he tried to take away…
      Oh, so I dream, at the very least! 😊😅

  • @Jay_XP
    @Jay_XP ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As much as I Love this game, it's unfortunate that the chance of Heroes getting a proper Remaster or Port without SEGA simply Emulating the Game is as rare as it is. Despite it's mixed reception in this Fanbase, I still believe that it deserves a chance, especially for the Newer Fans that never got to experience this Game. I don't know. That just how I feel, I suppose. Great video, man!

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks bro!

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@SFproductions1Sonic fans who are on the official Sonic The Hedgehog Channel right now will be mad at this video

    • @Snorlax0912
      @Snorlax0912 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesdeanrodriguez1791grrrr 🤬

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Snorlax0912💀

  • @Cortez_blast
    @Cortez_blast 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tittle: why sonic heros can't get a REMASTER
    Me: ok fine your safe for now, but next time it's gonna be write up

  • @noahfoley5576
    @noahfoley5576 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Never played Heroes I just never got the opportunity which is why, even if the game isn't great, it would still be good for a remaster for players like myself who want to experience it. I know it was a really successful game, financially speaking, and I could see some incentive there but I agree it might not get remastered. And if they do hopefully its not just emulation but at this point who knows.

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว

      SEGA will not listen to us. And that's good!

    • @MadSociety-uy6zg
      @MadSociety-uy6zg ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jamesdeanrodriguez1791not always good lol

    • @lafbkhope5391
      @lafbkhope5391 ปีที่แล้ว

      This game already has a PC version anyway.

  • @TheUnknowny
    @TheUnknowny 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    it might seem crazy what im bout to say

    • @Rman1228
      @Rman1228 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @bigcade554
    @bigcade554 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There have been quite a few games that ran on Renderware which have had ports, remasters, remakes, etc. in recent years. A few examples being SMT Nocturne going to Unity for its remaster, Persona 3 and 4 both ran on it originally, but were changed for their portable versions which were remastered recently, Battle for Bikini Bottom and the GTA games going to Unreal.
    I'm no developer, but it seems clear that a team can rebuild a game in a new engine. I don't believe Renderware is really much of an obstacle. Even disregarding Renderware, there are many other games that were rebuilt in different engines like Crash and Spyro.

  • @Funni_youtube
    @Funni_youtube ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not only did I just buy Sonic Heroes a month ago, but I agree with all of your reasons man. Thank you for making this video! While we might not get a heroes remaster or remake, I do wish for Sega to make an unleshed remaster, but only time will tell. I really respect your opinion on why you don't like heroes, and that's okay! I could see why some people don't like it. I tried it myself I thought was good, having different opinions is OKAY! Love your videos! keep up the good work!

  • @zeez7935
    @zeez7935 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sonic heroes has the best zone themes of any 3d sonic game, the potential for a colorful and fun remaster is actually crazy

  • @Bigolcheese
    @Bigolcheese 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Team based momentum platformer, boom, there's your idea.
    Keep the speed going by power types gliding and physical force, flight types flying and vertical reach. It could make the most craziest combos of momentum if done correctly

  • @natoriousthehopeful2786
    @natoriousthehopeful2786 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a massive stan of the Adventure games, do you think they'd be easier/better to remake/remaster?

  • @realroforb7676
    @realroforb7676 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s almost like it can be ported with an engine switch and they just don’t want to port it.

  • @Isaiahmob06
    @Isaiahmob06 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well looks like you were right about the generation's remaster lol.

    • @sippintea1070
      @sippintea1070 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ngl i prolly wont buy it tbf i prefer sonic 3d games dislike 2d sidescroller ones

  • @BrianMalibu
    @BrianMalibu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope they make a sonic heroes 2. New story, new characters, blaze, silver, trip, etc. I love the direction they took with dream team and superstars with playable numerous beloved characters

  • @Nobodyshere1105
    @Nobodyshere1105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic Team should remaster the game to FIX it. Fix all the bad animation and character inconsistences.
    You know, character inconsistences made from THOSE two guys...
    And also the OG ver., just for contrast of the old and new(and hopefully better written one).

  • @SkaiXmask
    @SkaiXmask ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If they are gonna build a new engine for the remake series SA1, SA2. Then making Sonic Heroes will become possible. This is the only game to ever sell the most copies of any Sonic game till Sonic Frontiers came out. So that’s enough of a reason for Sega to remake it. Also the bugs and gameplay issues that where in this game would all be fixed or changed for the better in the remake. So regardless what people thought about the old Sonic Heroes will not have those same feelings for the new one till they see the new gameplay footage. So I genuinely believe there is a high chance for a remake of Sonic Heroes. Since it makes the most sense as a business stand point as well

  • @SkullcrusherDogenborn
    @SkullcrusherDogenborn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think another reason is that Segas new tactic nowadays is to tap into Nostolgia of the early genisis games. it's almost like there trying to get fans to forget about the 2000,s area of sonic

  • @hellsencyclopedia1721
    @hellsencyclopedia1721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Emulation is bad for rereleases??? So if a company hastily remakes a game it's bad, but if its emulated with enhancements and no new bugs it's bad too???

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It seems like you missed my point entirely. Emulation for REMASTERS is bad because at that point, it's not actually a remaster. It's just an emulated version of the game on old hardware. It's a scummy thing to do to charge full price for an emulated game with enchantments when you can easily find that elsewhere for free

    • @hellsencyclopedia1721
      @hellsencyclopedia1721 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SFproductions1 well the alternative is a buggy port, honestly if a game is emulated people mostly don't notice, sonic jam was built from ground up and worked natively but sonic mega collection was emulated, there is virtually no difference for the average consumer. By your logic something like sonic 3 A.I.R isn't a remaster because it's emulation(and yes i know that it's a fan project)

  • @starseekernate7244
    @starseekernate7244 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Because it’s getting remade instead!
    Edit: I’m being serious it is LOL, grain of salt of course.

  • @featherguardian6023
    @featherguardian6023 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see a Heroes Remaster but I don’t know if it’s Possible now after watching this, a Remastered Adventure 1 and 2, 06, Shadow the Hedgehog, Generations, and Lost World has Many Possibilities from Better or Worse.

  • @superfnafdude2freddyland397
    @superfnafdude2freddyland397 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn’t sega President say that they will be interested of remaster, remakes, And reboots of old sonic games?

  • @RPKGameVids
    @RPKGameVids 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like Sonic Heroes. I remember back in around 2004 when I got the game and was playing it a lot, everyone seemed to hate it , I don't think I heard even one person say they liked it, but now even though a lot of people still hate it, there are a lot of people who really like it as well, which I find strange, I'm not sure what has caused this change.

  • @m0dze1532
    @m0dze1532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do think it’s happening since recently a lot of pc download links to sonic heroes have been dmca takendown by SEGA but who knows

  • @marktheroux9465
    @marktheroux9465 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could say I was hyped for a Sonic Heroes remaster... when I was fourteen, I was extremely excited for its release (even using an online forum for the first time to discuss it) but after playing through it, it took my YEARS to want to re-play it. It's got some fun levels and cool music, but having to complete it as four teams makes for a numbing experience where its flaws REALLY start to grate your nerves (especially the characters NEVER shutting up - good Lord.)

  • @veryscarypenguin6025
    @veryscarypenguin6025 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can play sonic heros on Xbox series consoles if you buy the game disk

  • @thomasdaly4597
    @thomasdaly4597 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man I the only one who wants a heroes and 06 remaster

    • @PalmtreeManic
      @PalmtreeManic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It will be a cold day in hell before we ever see an 06 remaster.

  • @louiseugeniojr.3530
    @louiseugeniojr.3530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've definitely made a good point there. Personally, I don't think a remaster of Sonic Heroes is necessary.

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I definitely agree. If the Sonic fans really want a Sonic Heroes Remaster. SEGA will say no

  • @RealConnorMalone
    @RealConnorMalone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why can’t Sega just remake the game from the start like the crash bandicoot n-sane trilogy with new graphics and stuff

  • @snakey888
    @snakey888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's not uncommon to change engines when remastering games, even more common if they're remade. Also, having mixed reviews haven't stopped Sega from re-releasing games, just look at sa1 and 2, and they're still on steam despite Sega's claim to delist bad and mediocre Sonic games.

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many claim the Adventure games to be among the best in the series. They got great scores back in the day & Sega knows that they will get tons of complaints if they delisted them as they are still quite popular. Also what Sonic games were delisted from Steam other than 3K for Music Reasons?

    • @snakey888
      @snakey888 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WaterKirby1994
      Should be noted that the more up to date scores are not as positive.
      And that is the thing, they have not delisted any mediocre or bad Sonic games, yet the delisted the very best in the series, not just s3k, but 2, 1 and cd! They removed the best games, yet trash like sa2, lost world and Forces are still up. So, Sega evidently does not care whether someone gets upset over the removal of a game from steam.

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snakey888 Oh yeah the scummy tactic to increase demand for Sonic Origins was a thing last year. Sonic Adventure 2 wasn't trash, it's easily within the Top 5 Sonic Games. I don't get how you can defend raw Sonic 1 yet insult the Adventure Games.
      For some fans Adventure is comparable to what Unleashed is for the 3D Boost Fans. Adventure 2 Battle to us was what Generations was for them. There is still demand for a return to what the Adventure Games had after all these years such as the Chao Gardens & Playing as multiple different characters in full 3D with awesome stories.

    • @snakey888
      @snakey888 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WaterKirby1994
      The problem with sa games, especially sa2, they removed so much of what made Sonic great; big sprawling levels with plenty of interconnected paths are replaced with linear corridors, momentum gameplay and great physics are replaced with automated scripts and spammable spindash that is no better than boosting. And the majority of the game plays nothing like a Sonic game instead consisting of mind numbing gameplay like treasure hunting, mech shooting or fishing. Those issues are reasons why many fans dont want those to return. Does not help that the modern Sonic games, like Forces and Frontiers, continue to reuse several of those issues.
      Sonic 1 on the other hand, has none of those issues. Yeah, it has some bad levels like labyrinth or marble zone, but overall it is a pretty good game.

  • @Sanity98
    @Sanity98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the 3D All-Stars thing was moreso because Nintendo is against emulation then charged $60 for it, only for it to be available for a limited amount of time

  • @brandon3104
    @brandon3104 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    watching this in 2024 is funny because they did end up coming out with a remaster of generations but still no news on sonic heroes. Nice prediction man!, literally spot on.

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An absolutely useless remaster

  • @MythiX_the_idiot
    @MythiX_the_idiot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might call me crazy but I don’t mind getting heros a remake on a different engine because 3 reasons
    1. Sega might learn from there mistakes
    2. It could have just been the engine they used for sonic colors ultimate was glitchy so they can just use something else
    3. I never ran into a single glitch on sonic colors ultimate so idk if the switch version is patched or if people are trying to break the game to call it bad or what

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว

      But SEGA will not listen to us! I'm happy about that!

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesdeanrodriguez1791 I mean, knock yourself out.

  • @17jacoyne
    @17jacoyne 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my one concern for a sonic heroes remake or remaster is that if sega does what persona 3 reloaded and crisis core ff7 reunion did and have the new sonic voice actors dub over the old ones, the dreamcast era sonic actors are some of my favorites and to hear them get replace with the new sonic actors in a sonic heroes remaster would hit hard! there are just certain lines in sonic heroes that i feel the new sonic voice actors won't be able to deliver like the old ones...
    FURTUREMORE while i get william corkery isn't the best of tails actors there were still times i found amusement in his performance as the character, to take that away with a properly trained actor would hit differently, it would be like if we were to remake the room and take away tommy wiseau's obscure performance with a properly trained actor

  • @hanro50
    @hanro50 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Depending on what exactly stops this from running on modern hardware. Sonic team could release a patch that includes a few wine and dxvk DLLs.
    If heroes used an outdated version of directX. Dxvk can translate that into vulkan calls instead.

  • @kowabonga3552
    @kowabonga3552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unless Silver, Blaze and Marine get added as new playable characters, I'm not interested in a Sonic Heroes remaster.
    Sonic Generations remaster however... HECK YEAH! Port it over to the N. Switch

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are definitely wrong there. Sonic Heroes will never add Silver and Blaze

    • @kowabonga3552
      @kowabonga3552 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesdeanrodriguez1791 Again, buzz off and leave me the heck alone.

    • @kingtiger5040
      @kingtiger5040 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They weren't in the original game

  • @pumpkintron8969
    @pumpkintron8969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing is impossible ,it can happen

  • @WaterKirby1994
    @WaterKirby1994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sonic Heroes was the 1st Sonic Game on either an Xbox or PlayStation console so it does have a significant legacy & there are many who are nostalgic for Sonic Heroes. Yes we're probably just going to have emulation of it, although is that really any different from what Mega Collection & Gems Collection did back in the day? As for Sonic Colors that was a game praised by a crowd who didn't like what Sonic was during the 2000s & as the 2010s continued opinion on the game deteriorated. By the point of Sonic Colors Ultimate, Colors was seen as the start of the despised Meta Era!

  • @SisterRose
    @SisterRose ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think the Renderware argument is really a great one, tbh, the name "renderware" kind of gives it away, it's primarily the graphics engine and there's plenty of better graphics engines they could use. It's one of the first things you do with a remaster., so saying it's not cost effective is just saying doing a remaster isn't cost effective. "But Colours Ultimate did it bad" isn't really an argument either, one buggy port doesn't mean they shouldn't try. In fact it may be easier to remaster Sonic Heroes than port it.

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  ปีที่แล้ว

      tbh a whole remaster wouldnt be cost effective because heroes isnt a widely praised game like colors was

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SFproductions1They will never add Sonic Heroes to Nintendo Switch and I'm happy about that

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 ปีที่แล้ว

      A good amount of bugs actually come from them porting a Wii-exclusive game specifically. A game that not only was made for multiplattform but also already is on PC(even if the port sucks) should be a lot easier to take care of.

  • @PieStudios
    @PieStudios ปีที่แล้ว

    Emulating would absolutely require other companies to get involved. Sega doesn’t have a GameCube or PS2 emulator just sitting on a hard drive they can use without licensing it. If they go to Nintendo for their emulator, it would likely be a Switch exclusive, same thing with Sony. Microsoft doesn’t even do backwards compatible games anymore either so emulation isn’t an option unless they can convince the Dolphin developers to help. But who knows if Nintendo would allow that on Switch?
    Sega can do what Rockstar did and bring Renderware into UE4. It’s not gonna be pretty or easy, but it’s most certainly possible.

  • @ZeroFoundContent
    @ZeroFoundContent ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sonic adventure 1 and 2 most likely might or might not get a remastered because of the roblox game making new models of the og adventure models.

  • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
    @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen some Sonic Fans saying "I want a Sonic Heroes Remaster and I want it right now" or "If Sonic doesn't get Remastered I'll break into SEGA'S office" Like dude there's no Sonic Heroes Remaster coming

  • @ljljp3035
    @ljljp3035 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh at this point if they can port it do current gen so people can experience the game for this selfs I'd be ok with that if anything i would hope they try the heroes style again in a future game and work on that also another riders game as well

  • @LiamBlox0914
    @LiamBlox0914 ปีที่แล้ว

    they could do something similar like the recent Super Mario RPG remake nintendo made expect its a cross between a 1 to 1 like a 1 to 2 remake it will most likely be that because EA isn't gonna agree to the rights with renderware as its now gone.

  • @robmacher3253
    @robmacher3253 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've basically done as you said with the old PC port and it's fun to relive those childhood memories. It kinda sucks that the only way to play this game on a modern system is by pirating the PC port and modding it as i would gladly spend money on a more proper modern port, but i suppose that is yet another reason to hate EA in case the world didn't have enough of those.

  • @heitorsant1759
    @heitorsant1759 ปีที่แล้ว

    In one side, I'd love a remake/remaster because they could fix all the bad stuff about it, but on the other hand, Sega has been shown to be VERY incompetent with remasters and stuff

  • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
    @crashban4t.f.s.b783 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A remake and a remaster are two different things. A remake doesn’t use the source code while a remaster does.

  • @samdavids7381
    @samdavids7381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this a repost or am i hacing crazy deja vu rn

  • @3godzilla3
    @3godzilla3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We don't need ANY remasters. Playing these games through emulation is the most perfect way to experience it. Dolphin is literally the best. You can play Heroes in widescreen AND at upscaled resolutions. The only thing a remaster would add is some small extra content. Playing this on PC for years and couldn't be happier.

  • @instinctive3066
    @instinctive3066 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that both Heroes & Unleashed can't get a remaster because of engine problems is a really shitty unfortunate outcome, I mean, if you're talking about games to remaster & remake outside of the Adventure games this is all you have because these are the only other 2 games that you can bring over that despite having some controversy are at the very least decently received

  • @Cliffordlonghead
    @Cliffordlonghead ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video SF

  • @annonymousannonymous9586
    @annonymousannonymous9586 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sega could try to Spyroscope Sonic Heroes(do what was done with the Spyro the Dragon Remastered Trilogy).

  • @imnotkaiser
    @imnotkaiser ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I just realized a leaked sonic heroes switch vid on my channel sooooo

  • @E-6481
    @E-6481 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think if anything sonic heroes related were to release, it’d be a full blown remake. Completely overhaul the gameplay, graphics, story, etc.

  • @bitzgames
    @bitzgames ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont know why people were all up in arms when 3D All Stars used emulation - the games ran well, looked great, and any issues they did have were patched fairly quickly. They even cleaned up a lot of the rougher looking textures and upscaled the HUD elements and the games looked great! I dont see the issue here, whether they use the original source code or not, we still get a perfectly playable product that looks nicer than on original hardware. SM64 wasnt 60fps but should anyone really care? The game was released in 1996, and while 60fps would look nice, its not a necessity. I dont understand why so many people are picky about framerates. This just goes to show that a lot of the naysayers are just whiners. I would be perfectly happy if they used a bit of emulation for a Sonic 3D Collection. For games that don't have a modern port like Heroes and Shadow, that would probably be a necessity for any rerelease to be done in a time efficient, cost effective manner. A remaster would likely have more issues than straight up emulation anyway. And it's not like we don't have a PC Port of Heroes for them to use; I mean, the XBOX 360 and PS3 port of SA1 had to come from somewhere, and if I'm not mistaken, Sonic Heroes DID get a re-release - a PS3 port released only in Europe and was reportedly not based on the PS2 version, but instead that very same PC port. Unfortunately I think it was delisted from the PS3 store, so that and the fact it was only released in Europe means it went largely unnoticed.

  • @JadenFox9
    @JadenFox9 ปีที่แล้ว

    pretty sure that Fast Friends meant Sonic Superstars if I had to guess, and Sonic Heroes does has a PC port which people seemingly ignore a lot, as someone mentioned, Asterix got remastered, only reason it won't is because SEGA don't want to, and to be honest, I prefer it that way, look at Colors Ultimate and Origins, both easy ports (of some kind) that all had issues in some shape or form, while it would be great, after the 2010s, I just want original stuff again, maybe references to them or using the mechanic in a more refined form, otherwise, na

  • @32hypersonic
    @32hypersonic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for saying what I've repeated for years

  • @paqshet4648
    @paqshet4648 ปีที่แล้ว

    It can be completely remade/reimagined though, like a sequel

  • @djuchiha
    @djuchiha 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The timing couldn’t be any better 😂😂

  • @JaniacTheHedgehog
    @JaniacTheHedgehog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This aged like milk-

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "Remaster" and "Remake" are two completely different things
      I even mention in this video how they could remake the game in a different engine which is what the leak says they're doing

    • @JaniacTheHedgehog
      @JaniacTheHedgehog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SFproductions1 I swear you mentioned it was gonna be unlikely though

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean hey. Unlikely doesn't mean impossible

  • @bencowden1224
    @bencowden1224 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should make metal virus game because that would extremely fun

  • @invinciblelordofdarkness
    @invinciblelordofdarkness ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good I want a remaster O6 or riders I could care less about heroes

  • @deFINExGaming1
    @deFINExGaming1 ปีที่แล้ว

    78 to 72 ain’t that big of a difference, and honestly I don’t see what was wrong with Heroes. I know nostalgia can get in the way, but it was actually really fun

  • @commentchameleon359
    @commentchameleon359 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No Team Chaotix gameplay was featured in this video :(
    Team Chaotix exists damn it!

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trash

    • @commentchameleon359
      @commentchameleon359 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SFproductions1 Team Chaotix is trash? They’ve barely been featured in games, especially as playable.

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@commentchameleon359 I like team chaotix but the story in heroes is not fun

  • @cepherinorodriguez8995
    @cepherinorodriguez8995 ปีที่แล้ว

    Request: Why Sonic Riders 1 & 2 never gotten a Re-released or Remastered?

  • @proj-fearless
    @proj-fearless ปีที่แล้ว

    If they're remaking it, they could remake it in a modified fronteirs engine.

  • @redfoxbennaton
    @redfoxbennaton 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope they bring back Sonic Heroes by any means necessary.

  • @Pinksugarcandy
    @Pinksugarcandy ปีที่แล้ว

    I need heros and 06 remastered idgaf about how it does idgaf about how anyone feels I enjoyed playing them as a kid so I wanna play them as an adult

  • @milesfernando
    @milesfernando 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Renderware thing isnt a problem, Persona 4 got a remaster.

    • @ChiefMedicPururu
      @ChiefMedicPururu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And it was quite buggy on launch.

  • @RadSonic.
    @RadSonic. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aged like half n' half milk

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Remaster" and "Remake" are two completely different things
      I even mention in this video how they could remake the game in a different engine which is what the leak says they're doing

    • @RadSonic.
      @RadSonic. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@SFproductions1 that's the reason why I said *"half n' half"*

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry I was being stupid

  • @coconutgun325
    @coconutgun325 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28 but the game is on guiness records book

  • @yrooxrksvi7142
    @yrooxrksvi7142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I first played Heroes on the European PSN and.....boy is it bad. Granted it was the PS2 port, but after playing the GC version, I just don't enjoy it much. Really goes to show how the overwhelming gospel towards certain games is just nonsensical. I like long stages, but in Heroes they just stretch for WAY too long. Flight and Power characters are little more than glorified gimmicks. Controls are too slippery. Don't like how most stages are just straight paths standing above an endless pit. And lastly, Heroes started some really annoying trends, like Amy the crazed fangirl, Knuckles forgetting about Angel Island, Tails just tagging along as a sidekick. That said, I like the music and level themes.

  • @ToniCiprianiX007
    @ToniCiprianiX007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Id spend money on it being emulated, as long as i can play it on modern consoles and own it physically.

  • @Spaghetti48284
    @Spaghetti48284 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn't mind emulation, as long as the performance is good.

  • @arzfan29
    @arzfan29 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heroes was so bad that a remake wouldn't be able to fix it, it would need a full reboot

  • @LuffyBlazing
    @LuffyBlazing 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This make a lot of since and i questionable about this remake or remaster because i just want a rider's remake or a unleash remake but generations was lot of fun though and if you want dream sonic 06 lets gooooooooooooo

  • @johnpett1955
    @johnpett1955 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd actually be fine with Sega emulating the game. At least it'd actually be playable on modern hardware. It probably shouldn't be a remaster though. Just a port.

  • @zenith-gg9tl
    @zenith-gg9tl ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont get why people want remakes of sa1, sa2, sonic heros, sonic unleashed
    they should remake games that didnt do so well like sonic 06

  • @MrNeedleM0use
    @MrNeedleM0use ปีที่แล้ว

    Like I know it might not but I would love a remaster for this game. I like Heroes and maybe you could too if they made a better version of it...?

  • @XJ43088
    @XJ43088 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I don't like Sonic Heroes"
    **Premydaremy wants to know your location**
    Jokes aside, I think remasters of older games would be cool. Tbh, I never got to play Sonic Heroes or Shadow the Hedgehog, and I never finished SA 1 or 2, so remasters of those would be cool, but it's important to understand the reality of the situation, too. On one hand, it would be cool if they get Heroes working somehow, but on the other... Yeah, no.
    Also, I know this'll probably never happen because of their poor reception, but just hear me out on this and how cool it sounds: Remasters of Sonic & the Secret Rings and Black Knight on Switch, with better graphics and better motion controls. 👀

  • @aldeanblair9727
    @aldeanblair9727 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That will be good if game was remake to Xbox one and other consoles

  • @XLR8wuzhere
    @XLR8wuzhere ปีที่แล้ว

    E…A…?! Ah fucking damnit 😑, you’ve got to be kidding me 😔.

  • @azimuddin1890
    @azimuddin1890 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At least they should make a port for the Steam.

  • @Fireybluegtag
    @Fireybluegtag 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro it’s 2024 and I’m just trying to beat team sonic last level but it’s so hard bro I can beat I just want to go to team rose and chaotix

  • @cepherinorodriguez8995
    @cepherinorodriguez8995 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Sonic Heroes couldn't get re-released, then it should've been emulated on Xbox One and Series Backwards Compatibility (along with most other Sonic games on the Original Xbox and Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing on the Xbox 360). But no.

  • @YaBoiHyper
    @YaBoiHyper 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "remastering a game like sonic generations"
    sonic x shadow generations has entered the chat:

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🥱🥱🥱😴😴😴

  • @Jaylobeans
    @Jaylobeans ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't Lose Hope, A Heroes Remaster Is 100% Coming In 2024

  • @raphaelmartins6529
    @raphaelmartins6529 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't agree with you for several reasons.
    1 - Yes, Sonic Heroes had average reviews, however, the reason why some people don't like the game are things like controls and glitches, specially the PS2 version. That means, the problem is not the gameplay itself, but the lack of polish. All of these problems could easily be fixed and the game would be a hit
    2 - Some people don't like Heroes because it forces you to play all the campaigns to get the true ending, but this is also something that could easily be changed with other quality of life improvements.
    In other words, Sonic Heroes doesn't have any fundamental flaw, the core gameplay is solid and the original game only has issues because of lack of polish (everyone knows it was rushed as hell).
    3 - It doesn't matter if the original release had average scores because people change the opinions on games overtime. For example. Zelda Skyward Sword on the Wii was praised at launch, but overtime it became one the least popular Zelda games and the HD have bad scores from the audience. Some games like Sonic Heroes and Sonic Unleashed are seeing in a more positive light nowadays
    4 - Sonic Heroes is the second best selling 3D Sonic game of all time and it's loved by an entire generation of fans
    5 - Sega released a remaster of Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz in HD. The original game was released for Nintendo Wii and it had a terrible reception. However, they decided to remade the game recently. If Sega cared that much about critics score in the original release, why would they do that? Also, Banana Blitz HD was developed in a different engine (Unity).
    I don't think this rumors are true, but I don't think it's not true because it's impossible, but because Sega don't care about the legacy of Sonic. Simple as that

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  ปีที่แล้ว

      what about the engine stuff? thoughts on that?

    • @jamesdeanrodriguez1791
      @jamesdeanrodriguez1791 ปีที่แล้ว

      1: If SEGA wants to Remaster Sonic Heroes they gotta use the dam old engine again 2: I don't agree with you at some point 3: REVIEWS for this game is garbage 4: Sonic Colors Ultimate is a good Sonic game and that's all, Personally I think SEGA will do a sequel to Jet Set Radio, Like they leaked Jet Set Radio 3

    • @raphaelmartins6529
      @raphaelmartins6529 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SFproductions1 nowadays there are lots of modern technologies that could be used to recreate the game without having a budget that high, if they wanted to. For example, they could just use Unity like they did with Monkey ball

    • @raphaelmartins6529
      @raphaelmartins6529 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesdeanrodriguez1791 nah, Sonic Heroes reviews are not garbage, they are average reviews and the game definitely lost some points because of the technical issues (the bugs, slippery controls and stuff like that). If the game was more polished, it could easily be as praised as Colors because the gameplay formula is solid. And no, they don't have to use the old engine, they could just used Unity like they did with the recent Monkey ball remasters.
      Do you know that Project 06 (the fan made remake of Sonic 2006) doesn't use a single line of the original source code and is developed on an entirely different engine, right? (And it's also Unity)

  • @Universal035
    @Universal035 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone that hates this game doesn't know Sonic. The younger generation of course silly me.

    • @ABCodeX
      @ABCodeX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can see why people don't like the game, it's kinda the McDonald's of the Sonic Series

    • @Universal035
      @Universal035 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ABCodeX it's a legendary game & only Gen Z's would disagree.

    • @ABCodeX
      @ABCodeX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Universal035 Dawg, this game was really controversial on release, I'm pretty sure Gen Z is more fond of this game than most millennial Sonic fans

  • @benjaminscott3526
    @benjaminscott3526 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah. I could care more or less about Heroes. But a remaster? I definitely see it not happening. I mean if I did wanted a remaster for the game, I would say fix the slippery controls for the speed characters for one thing. But other than that, I don't see no reason for a remaster for this game. I do sort of enjoy the game for the nostalgia and music though. But that's about it.

  • @Metal-UT
    @Metal-UT ปีที่แล้ว

    They should remaster Sonic Frontiers too !

  • @Lemuel928
    @Lemuel928 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be stuck in Switch Online forever.