Motorcycle Fuel Injection Controllers Explained - How They Work and What You Need by J&P Cycles
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We'll show you fuel injection controllers that you'll need if you are making changes to your exhaust or intake systems. These controllers allow you to tune your fuel injection or load maps to achieve optimum performance and allow your motorcycle to compensate for customizations. We feature our best sellers: the Vance & Hines FuelPak, Dynojet Power Commander III , Dynojet Power Vision, & the ThunderMax EFI controllers. If you are making changes to the exhaust or air flow on your bike with EFI you'll want to watch this video and see what EFI controller or ECM replacement will meet your needs.
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Vance & Hines FuelPak
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Dynojet Power Commander III
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Dynojet Power Vision
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ThunderMax ECM replacement
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Finally some honesty without someone pushing an agenda. thankyou.
I've a ThunderMaxx on 2 of my Harvey's and couldn't be happier with the results!!!!
Great video. simple and direct. answered a lot of questions.
Awesome vid!!! Learned a lot. Good work.
Thank you so much!
Excellent video and very informative
hello sir how r u, i have a question for u:
i bought a power commander v for my canam outlander, do i need to downlaod any maps?
or just install the PCV on my atv and it will do its job?
for ur information i already installed a HMF slip on and a K&N air filter.
thanks
if i have a 2010 harley iron 883 with vance and hines short shots, but stock air cleaner do i need a fuel injection controller? Thanks
I have a 2013 Sportster 72. I plan to change exaughst, air cleaner & install a FI controller. I just haven't decided if I should buy the cheaper V&H fuel pac,( which states on your web site not for my bike) or the more exspensive Cobra Fi200 powr pro w/cvt. Also since the bike comes from HD with narrow band o2 sensors would it be advisable to switch out for wide band o2 sensors?
I have a 2014 yfz450r that has a low end bog and its very annoying! The pcv did not help with that what so ever! With or without mods the pcv could not Eliminate the bog. Would you have any insight on this and if there is anything I can do to fix this problem. Thank you
Do i need to dyno tune if i put the Thunder max on ? Thank you great video btw 👍🏻
Could anyone tell me what I would need for a 04 victory touring cruiser. New injectors. New spark plugs brand new tank lining. Replaced the socks on the fuel pump, and I’m still having backfiring, loss of power at 1500 rpm or more. Hardly any forward power, and loss of power while in gear. Random stalling. Mechanics I work with suggested a fuel controller but I want to make sure this is the best thing for the bike. Or if these symptoms may be related to something else.
PCV needs autotuner to autoadjust the mix, if you dont buy autotuner is like PCIII...Isn't that right??
Will the V&H tuner for say my slip ons eliminate the de- acceleration popping I seem to have putting them on. I have been told that I need a SE tuner and SE filter instead. Getting conflicting stories here in Australia
If i've got a bike with a carburator, can I get away with getting a slightly carburator or can I change the jetting settings and fuel screw etc?
Do we need to tune the bike every season please do let me know I am very confused
I have a stock 2005 C90T.... do u recommend any or all of these? I'm running stock pipes & oem air cleaner
I need help ASAP Please!!! .. i just bought an ltr450, its got yoshimura full system, intake, athena 505 big bore kit, stroker crank, cams, and high comp pistón! of course a power commander 3. it revs perfect in idle, but when i grab a handfull of throthle, it bogs on the higuer rpms.. what should i do? i tried to adjust it by pushing the three buttons at the same time, but as soon as i push them, they will turn off in about 2 seconds. thanks!!
Hello J P cycles,
I have a 07 gsxr 1000 with stock gearing, kn air filter and jardine jp1 slip on exhaust. I currently have a cobra fi 2000 and had it dynoed in and im still not happy with it. You think i should get a power comander 5 or just leave it stock? Im a street rider and love to ride curves. Is the pc5 worth it?
Yes the V&H tuner should solve the issues, any tuner will work. It sounds like you have a lean condition and the V&H tuner should be easy to do on your own and will be much more affordable than the SE.
I have a Yamaha r1 and I have the pc3 on it but I just know how to tune it can u help me pleas
how does fuel injection works in mootorcycle or scooter?
Been riding since 1967. (Always carbureted!) Just got a California model 2021 KLX300SM. I know nothing about FI. My feeling is that its stock leanness and maybe its Timing is limiting its performance. Would JUST an FI Controller make the engine run 'happier'? As in more 'willing' to perform to its stock DESIGN potential? Not looking for more HP but a less restricted feeling. Also considering a slip on pipe with baffle to keep it reasonably quiet. Not looking for big HP gains. Looking maybe for a tiny bit more midrange, torque and 'willingness' to run as designed. I like it now. Just think it is running with a stick up its butt! lol Perhaps a not too noisy Pipe, More AIR to the engine (Snorkle off of air box) AND a FI controller to tune the fuel mixture to the 'Bullseye' 'Proper' zone is what is called for???? This is a GOOD bike! Doesn't need Hopping Up. Just needs to be set up to run FREELY to its Design Potential. Your video really helped me START to understand the new Non Carbureted Lifestyle. :D Thanks!
With autotune.... Say im out having a riding day and its running the best ever. Is there an option to lock a map in?
It depends, any changes that noticeably modify airflow will likely require a re-jet. We have rejet kits available and our techs are always ready to talk you through our options 1-800-318-4823
Just tuned my bike with a Maximus pro tuner. Very impressed with the results! Low to mid range is much more punchy? Just need to do a final run and put more fuel in at the top end. Im hitting 100 easily now, as i wasn't before? Ive got a Switchback 103 with stock pipes. Couldn't get above 95mph so hoping to hit the 110 club very soon?
Bro do we need to tune the bike every season
Please help me out
@@kevalmangena412 No once it's done it's done. Unless you change out the exhaust or replace the cams?
@@nidgeontour257 thank you so much for replying soon
@@nidgeontour257 so even in any season that is fine no need to worry about moisture etc.
I suppose because more liquid helps keep
Temps down?
Ever heard of air cooled vs liquid cooled?
I may be wrong. But that's what i think.
Hope this helped.
Running fuel fat to keep your bike cooler has nothing to do with being air cooled or liquid cooled. Completely different situations dude.
Hi all my name is jason from Victoria australia I need a little help with my 98 fuel injected road king . The bike idles crazy with rev fluctuating when cold and hot . Also at about 100 mph or 60 mph the bike seems to break down almost like a cyclender break down and it just clears it self up . This is reapeated constantly and get worse with a passenger. I would some advice from any one that has experienced this or understands Harleys. Cheers ja
Any ideas??? My 07 Busa won't go past 7000rpm. Fuel leans out... After $500 spent on dyno, the mechanic couldn't figure out the problem. He made adjustments to PC3 and nothing changed. He uninstalled the PC3 and still the same problem...All 4 plugs look like they are burning the same. Engine does run hot.. Again, any ideas??
Tom Braaten could be a fuel pressure issue.
I had light rust in tank that partially clogged the tiny fuel screen on inlet to the in-tank injection pump, which led to fuel starvation at higher RPM's / higher throttle openings. Red Kote treatment for the tank and a new filter fixed my issue.
can someone explain to me why less fuel would make then engine hotter?
I'm perplexed.
The ratio between the fuel and oxygen control the burn temperature.
Just like a shop torch, .. more oxygen lets the mixture burn at a hotter rate.
It takes oxygen to have fire, ..
0Sirk0 To add to what's been said, a leaner burning motor will also have pre-ignition, or spark knock caused by an unstable ignition at the wrong time as a side effect.
Causes are from hot spots & leanness of air to fuel ratios within the combustion chamber, this can cause the piston to be burned, or melt a hole in it & damage the rings also.
To stop this overly lean condition there are different ways these units help control it, one is to lessen the advance curve of the ignition to slow it down, this also lower power being made, the ECU mapping does this, but the stock maps have their limits,.
These products help add fuel to richen the incoming fuel charge together to keep the timing right and power up, without harm to the motor, thats the reason for these items, they also help the cylinder temps to stay at a constant temp so not to go into an unstable mode.
It's mostly needed to have these devices when the air ratio to fuel is changed beyond the stock ECU ability to cope, like less restrictive race type air filters & exhaust systems are added together, or other non stock items like cams, also taller gearing can add a strain on the motor, the more away from stock parts the greater the need of helps in this area.
Not to forget, the cooling system is vital part to keep it all in a proper working order, also the charging system for proper ignition, the more power a motor makes the more cooling capacity is needs.
exactly, For me I go with the cheapest version, they all have the exact same CPU to control the fuel air mixture. Why they cost so much is beyond me. If you were to take out the CPU of a power commander and use it as a Home PC it wouldn't even have the capabilities to send an email. That's how basic these CPU's are that control a fuel/air mixture. They might be able to run a calculator....MAYBE..
Are motorcycle manufacturers using direct injection?
yes. Stock FI mapping leaves a lot to be desired. A fuel injection controller can really wake your bike up and make it more efficient.
J&P Cycles
Do these bikes get really bad carbon buildup on the intake valves, like the cars, since they are direct injection and not port?
@@q-bert6454 yes, but I think the carbon build up is probably related to poor tuning that poor design.
I wouldn't dare put one of these on my bike without an exhaust gas or cylinder head temperature reading available. I'm a pilot and in prop planes you have direct control of your mixture. This is because you may take off at sea level, but climb to 10k feet and then at altitude you must lean your mixture. The way you lean is to watch cylinder head temps, which will indicate a sharp rise when you are too lean. With these gadgets you have no idea what kind of temps you are getting for a given setting.
so you're saying that airplanes dont adjust the mix automaticaly. You,the pilot, have to adjust it manualy...that's the worst lie I've ever heard...also if you saw the full video the "stage 3" fuel injection controler auto adjusts the mix.
phoenix1925 And turbines have cylinders .. hehe
Whoops nvm...I just realized
You are the luckiest guy in the world to be flying your own aeroplane! I ride my Harley in India but I would give my life savings to be able to fly!
gary phillips
I’ll keep that in mind when I’am flying my Harley at 10,000 feet!
you should be fine with a generic stage 3 jetting kit from any manufacture that fits your bike. Just make sure it doesn't say in the fine print. "made In china"
In my opinion all this “crap” is designed in California and because dirtbikes are the thing there everyone else is going to go out and spend $200 on a tuner they don’t need. Just know how to ride and upgrade the piston, clutch, cams etc. them tuners have been proven to be more time and money then power gains.
Especially when building a modded RMZ450 without a tuner and then installing the tuner.
Want a real mapping compatibility, GET is the only result. Everything else is no good.
Get a controller, yea that is much more worth the money then the plug in fuel programmer(commander).
Controller is good with TPS and actually doing some tuning but for the average person they will waste time and money.
Get a $200 race piston (13.2:1 compression ratio), and $400 on camshafts. That’s still cheaper then the GET system and it’s not the same stock motor.
Matt Elliot is in New Orleans and dyno tunes. Great work over there. Have an O2 sensor will help for tuning
Dynojet sucks now. They only have a handful of maps for each bike now because they want people to drop the extra money on the auto tuner.