How Luigi Cyclone Works - Super Smash Bros. Melee
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Luigi mains, rejoice! In this tutorial, CDK goes over practically everything you need to know about Luigi's down B. Check it out and take your recovery game to the next level!
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I've been a solo Luigi main for 10 years, and I STILL can't gain any meaningful height with down b. I just ain't quick enough
So it's not just that I suck at Melee
if youve played luigi for 10 years and cant down b rise i think you might need to move on to doc or mario youl be atleast somewhat familiar with them
I Know the real reason why this happens by AsumSaus video called "Melee's Stupid Advantages"
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@@rakemash yeah man 10 years of experience with a character just to drop them because they cant do a thing thats not even that relevant cause luigis recovery is exploitable anyway
Important ganondorf disrespect tactics ft. Bizz
Joshua Maya He'd have to drop at least 10 "EASY MONEYYYY"s during the tutorial or else it would be no help to me.
Steve More like
1. D-air
2. D-air
3. D-air
4. D-air
5. F-air
6. Wizard's Foot Spike
7. ???
8. (OH GOD) DISRESPECT! (OH GOD) DIS-RUH-SPECT EVERYBODY
Leader of the Bunch
9. AND CAN I SEE AN UP TILT
Joshua Maya
Number 1: don't do the ditto taunt. If your opponent does, punish the shit out of it, and taunt after he's lost a stock.
2: DownB spike/DownA spike whenever possible
3. If your opponent is on their last stock and has no chance to recover, and you have 2+ stocks, Sd before they die and taunt when you respawn if possible.
4. *spam the shit outta them stale moves*
6. Stay inconsistent and change strategies mid-game to confuse your opponent, leading to highly punishable mistakes, and highly disrespectful ways to kill.
5. teabag if you get a shield break (don't do the following if it is your opponents last stock) and if possible, warlock punch them to the furthest blast zone for added disrespect
7. Mid-air SideB spike your opponent if possible to screw over your opponents ledge guard, leading to highly punishable positions/forced recovery options if they have a chance to survive.
8: *up-tilt if they try to attack from above*
9: in 2/3 or 3/5 matches say "thou hath commited a great sin, and must be punished" if they win the first match then go for a fully offensive strategy, forcing your opponent to go for a defensive strategy, and show no mercy.
10: if you break your opponents shield on their last stock, stand next to them, roll behind them, pause the game, and say "Omae wa mou shindeiru" (pronounced "oh'mai wa moh'oo shih'ndeh'eeru") then unpause and warlock punch them
Please just finish the "Are You a Player?" series.
That's like asking for just Honest Trailers from Screen Junkies. You just gunna have to wait a bit for each one. ;)
Yoshi!
As long as they will still be made by Kira, there's no point hearing about the low tiers because all he will do is shit on them like he's been doing.
Andrew Ricklefs that's sadly true
I feel like Kira is probably better for these types of videos, but I wouldn't mind giving it a shot one of these weeks.
Here I was thinking the grounded cyclone between stocks was just something Luigi mains did. Like a weird ritualistic APM spam similar to multishines. I had absolutely no idea there was this much mechanical depth behind it. Luigi truly is wack.
I'm all for Mewtwo lessons. I would say Doc/Mario, but I think those characters are very intuitive when it comes to how to play them and there are already videos on the channel about them. Mewtwo is more confusing, so it could be really nice with some proper tutorials.
1. doctor Mario
2. a general tips, tricks, matchups, and combo video. there are no vids like that for Mario
ft. Shroomed
Mac Rodgers Eyyy, welcome to the doctor mario main club.
Doc would be a great character for a video
kira hates doc
JigglyPortal
But does CDK?
Good video! But you should have also shown the hitbox of Down-B in the air, because there are some quite interesting differences. The "first" hitbox is quite larger than on the ground and there is a hitbox between his feet right from the start.
also you can use the bigger hitboxes on the ground if you jump and press downB a few frames after
I wanna see Young Link videos, and how his bombs work, ( how to drop them without having them explode). Edit: Also how the grappling hook works, and obviously some combos.
FranTheMusicLegend Just press z while airborne and really close to the ground
Ok thanks! Thats what I thought, but I always end up making them explode haha. But combos and stuff would be cool :D
You can do it while landing in Melee. The window for it is just really tight, so you have to press z really close to the ground.
I used to play young link. Hold Z just as you land. So what you can do is a full jump bomb and just before you land you hold Z so that in case it blows up yo dont hurt yourself.
A video on Samus and her punish game or how to practice Samus would be great! Even better if it featured Plup or Duck :)
1. Dr Mario
2. Neutral, Combos, recovery, etc. Thanks!
I had totally forgotten about your channel
Glad the algorithm put it in my feed
1. Samus
2. Punish/combo game, Edgeguard game and tricks, we already have a nice masterclass by hugs for neutral, but another by plup or duck would also be nice as they are playing quite differently
3. Keep up the good work guys
I would like to see a "Are you a Mewtwo Player?" video.
I would say more 1 on 1 matchup guides. they were really nice to watch if you cant figure out why you cant approach another charter.
I definatly wanna see more Kirby videos, specifically on playstyle, tricks, matchups or trivias.
I am being very serious.
This channel gives me hope. I'm trying to pick up Melee since Smash 4 just isn't cutting it for me and I'm going to try and solo Fox for now. Your videos are going to be a huge boost to my improving and can't wait to see more from you.
What would be nice to add to the channel:
You already have some character tutorials.
What you should do is to also have a brief character matchup tutorial (ex.: Luigi vs top 8 characters where you go on what to look for and how to act in general situation in each matchup. This would maybe be 15-20 min video (so not too much in depth) and would be a great help for the community i think since most of low level play is to learn the matchups)
A guide for Doctor Mario would be nice.
try to cover stuff to pratice (aside from upb cancel pls), his best/worst matchup, his main strenghts and weaknesses
I also think that covering "why isn't doc used at high level, despite being considered mid tier?" would be an interesting thing to watch.
this game is so bizarre lol.
Also cdk, I heard you went to Balc, and enjoyed it and the PM play as well! Im glad, Balc was overall a sick tournament :)
Good video, was just expecting a little mash tutorial on the cyclone as a Luigi main
-Are You A Yoshi Player video?
-Yoshi how to invincible ledge stall with eggs
-Yoshi neutral game video
- Parrying tutorial
- Any content about yoshi, preferrably with Vectorman or amsa input
A Yoshi video would be cool. My little brother plays casually for the most part but has gravitated to Yoshi. Thing is, I'm not good enough with the character to teach him even simple Yoshi techniques. An entry-level exploit video for one of the game's most obscure characters would be really fun & very appreciated over here :)
I think what would be good is videos explaining common neutral game mistakes and how good players punish them: Examples include, predictable double jumps immediately out of hitstun; tech rolling in when your opponent acts like they're covering tech roll away.
Edit: I also think videos on low tiers are going to requested more often than they're useful to the general audience.
as a Luigi main I'd love to see a video on the best ways to approach the nuetral game with him, thanks a lot CDK!
Dr. Mario. What I want to learn: his Cancelled Up+B, his true combos, and the use of down B and side B for recovery purposes, and side B properties.
Love these videos, I'm a noob to melee and really find these useful :D
Dr Mario combos and neutral
I think you should start a series on what the fundamental tech each character had and a general order to learn the tech afterwards.
The fundamental tech is tech you need to play a character in the same style the pros do. So if a Luigi can't smash di, he won't live to as high of percents as the pros who can, but he won't need to do things fundamentally different then they would. But if a Luigi can't wave dash, he needs to find fundamentally different ways to traverse the stage and play neutral. So, for Luigi, wavedashing would be a fundamental tech and smash di wouldn't.
Then once you listed the fundamental tech for a character, you could expand by giving a general order to which to learn the more advanced tech. A fox eventually should know how to ledge stall and edge cancel his side b. But you should probably learn the basic ledge stalls first... and just give an order to the categories of tech each character has. Possibly even adding a really late step where you can start trying to discover your own tech.
This would help newer players have an easier time picking up and improving their characters.
If you need a character to start with: falco, Marth, and captain falcon seem to be the most common characters for newer players
A series on Roy and some combos/possibilities would be neat, even though he's not an amazing character.
I was looking for shiek tutorials and I realized that you guys have never really made a shiek video that covers her techniques. If you could make one that would be amazing!
I would love another Ice Climbers Turtorial! Something on either recovery or hand offs would be wonderful.
Link/Young Link tech! They have such interesting stuff with grapple, up b, bombs, boomerang and ledge stuff. Axe or a Link guy like salvato or germ could be great features too.
I'd love it if you covered no impact landing, I play Sheik and want to learn NIL stuff specific to her but a whole video on it would be cool
Falco combos on floaties (Sheik, Marth, especially Puff) would be a super cool video.
Or generally a few more matchup guides for Falco.
1: Pikachu
2: How to mix up recovery, use projectiles effectively, and combo/tech chase
I remember I did this once and then I literally was so surprised
The year is 20XX. Spawning with a Luigi Cyclone Charge is the only remaining factor to determine the outcome of matches.
Us Link mains still waiting for a good tutorial!
Two words:
Doctor Mario.
Prankstersism 11*
MultiDarkII Luigi is better than Doc. also, Luigi has a better recovery. what are you trying to say here?
We want a mario tutorial by a rookie! Talk about those light hit up air to nair/bair combos, fair grab, fox chain grab, and cool plumber stuff!
I would like to see vids about Doc's neutral and some things he can do with the cape.
I'd like to learn more about Pichu & Young Link. who they do well against. Tech that helps them in neutral. Their proper punishes etc.
5:17 The ultimate counter pick
Mechanics of Samus bomb pressure and other bomb mixups I.e. Bomb -> tether -> bomb hits you and you can act again.
It would be interesting to learn tricks & tips about Young Link. And maybe a guide on how to beat the floaty characters (Peach, Jigglypuff, Samus).
I want to see character-specific DOUBLES tactics. Personally I want more Luigi, but I'll take any character. I think this would make it more useful for everyone, since it would be useful for all doubles players and not just the specific character main. I want to see what individual characters are looking for in a doubles scenario and in a doubles partner, and the roles said character usually take. The other doubles videos were a good general start, but I think doubles is generally under-covered.
I'd really like a general low tier tutorial on how you can try and find information and how to get better without the usage of thousands of people who play the top tiers. Some examples are how axe have been tinkering with pikachu and then understands more than most other pikachus due to him gaining knowledge without help of others.
how to practice samus? or just really any more samus vids
can we talk about this fire track
The Falco Luigi match up from Falco's perspective!
I'd be interested in more Falcon tutorials, maybe about his matchups or something
Thank you I have been trying to find out how to recover with down b
I have been waiting for this
We need more Luigi mains! Put down the Fox and Marth and play someone respectable!
Falco?
Ian Jones Pichu?
Ian Jones He's super annoying to play against simply because of the noise he makes when wavedashing haha
#MindGames
I used to play Luigi just to force me to learn how to wavedash on actual matches, it actually worked surprisingly well.
You should do a video on Samus and how to play against her with other characters. She can be weird to play against (and is one of my many weaknesses). And more Falco videos. Falco's the shit.
A basic tutorial on how to refresh ledge invincibility with spacies would be awesome!
I think a video about Roy's tricks would be cool. He has some cool stuff people don't know about (up b insta kill on floaties, up smash spike, tipper down smash semi-spike, and some more)
More Samus.
When to use neutral airs, back airs, side missiles when edge guarding
Samus punish game with Duck
Pikachu recovery would be interesting to learn about
I would like to learn more about Ness, because I feel like he could be really strong if correctly plates, like his PK flash seems powerfull.
Yoshi would be good as he has a lot to cover and has a player base. You can cover ECE, parrying, neutral game and DJC (you can fit mewtwo and ness in there as well)
I may be waaay too late seeing this, but would you consider doing a vid where you go more in-depth with Mario and Doc's versions and how they stack up against Luigi's?
A general Zelda guide would be awesome
Honestly I could go for a hefty yoshi guide
Every time I see those E-Sports videos where they talk almost solely about Street Fighter then in the comments section I see people talking about how Smash is not equal to SF or KOF, It's honestly upsetting that people discredit Smash because as they normally say, "it's just meant to be a party game."
Yeah well this party game has some extremely advanced tech and an incredibly high skill ceiling.
Doing some punish game tutorials for doc or Luigi would be sick
Please make a peach chain grab tutorial, or just any peach tutorial!
1. I would like to learn something about Doctor Mario (who I main, but it just so happens that I'm a noob)
2. I would like to learn about optimal kill setups on certain characters (fast-fallers, mediumweights, lightweights, and heavyweights)
I can't mash fast enough to get a decent vertical distance, and i just kinda hover in the air. I mainly use it to air stall, especially offstage
that’s how luigi works
Uses of Mario's fireballs and Doc's pills would be great, they really are different.
I would be interested in a Ness tutorial for the following reasons:
-Maybe you'll want help from me, so I can get some shoutouts in the video that might turn into more viewers on my stream.
-To generate more interest among players in using Ness.
-No really if you do it I'll help.
I would love to see a "Are you a Mewtwo Player?" video done! Thank you!
Do some Ganon spacing stuff! His neutral, or lack thereof, is so different than every other character. He has to bait so hard
Maybe just a video on baiting w/ tomahawks and stuff then?
Okay this will probably never happen, but G&W tutorial. Or maybe in depth tutorials on neutral and whiff punishing as certain characters? I play Marth and I often have a lot of trouble with falcons who dash dance them overshoot aerials.
A tutorial on Fox's ledge cancels and movement in general would be pretty great.
Falco's combogame on different floaties?
A "Are you a Mewtwo Player?" video would be very much appreciated, IMO.
I wanna ses more Ganondorf, Luigi and young Link tutoriel because they are mid tiers characters that I enjoy tout play with
Dont even care about luigi but this is fascinating
i feel like all the weird things ness can do is unknown. a ness video might be cool!
Please do a video in the future about Pikachu. I'm talking about the weird glitches I've seen Axe do on some of his streams. I've seen Pikachu teleport across a stage by being hit by Yoshi eggs and other weird bugs.
Hey! I remember Super Tornado! Wow Luigi numba one!
It would really help if you made a how to beat peach video. There are hardly any peach mains at the level I'm at and I'd like to be prepared for the niche matchup.
Comment war: I'd like to learn more about G&W. Even though he's not viable, I'd still love to learn about how is down-B stacks damage, or just his side-b alone
I would love some more videos about Luigi. Also, I want to know more about ganandorf. he was my first main and I can four stock all my friends with him but I don't have much tech skill with him.
Please, please, please do a video on Yoshi's dair. I know it's supposed to be possible to do 50% using it just once, but I've never managed to deal the full amount in an actual match, I don't know if it's even actually possible. Usually I just deal 20-30%, I'm only able to hit with the full 50% in homerun contest. If there's some method to hit the full amount consistently, knowing about it would seriously help Yoshi players out. Like, a lot.
Isn't this because of move staling? Each hit that connects makes the move stale and do less percent, but moves don't become stale in HRC. I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what's happening.
it's not really feasible to do that much damage with his dair in an actual match. usually it can be DI'd out of and doesnt have followups
I was just looking this up 2 days ago :D
I'd like to see more luigi covered personally
Oh! so that is why Luigi mains always down-b after a kill, I though luigi mains used that to celebrate or something.
Falcon,
Punish Game Explained (thoroughly?)
I'd like to see a tutorial on how to keep a spacy near the ledge as marth.
I'd love to hear more about link or ness.
I would like to see a "Are you a Fox Player?" video!
If you want a challenge, you can try and make a video on Zelda. I'd be interested to see what you all would have to say.
“Wahoo”
i would like to see mario tips such as his up b wall jump that only he could do
A young link tutorial would be nice. Projectiles and combos in general.
More doctor Mario videos would be siiiick
I'd like to see more practice drill videos, preferably with Luigi or Pikachu.