From Workshop to WARLORD: Chatting to John Stallard
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2023
- This week we chat to the man behind Warlord Games, John Stallard! How do you start your own miniatures company (spoilers work at Games Workshop). We chat about the origins of Warlord Games, their first set of miniatures right up to the the newest releases, things learned along the way, historical wargaming, and some brilliant questions from our patrons.
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I know that GW gets you a better place in the youtube algorithm but i would love more Warlord Games and any spotlights of other games companies and there products
If Warlord broke the wargaming algorithm with Romans - Painting Phase can break TH-cam's too!
I'd love to see the Mantic lads
RuneBlade would be cool!
To answer Pats question about Warlord making every historical unit. Eventually they could upscale them and make Primaris Roman Legionaries with MKX Gladiuses or Anti-grav Sherman tanks.
Also, are Pat and Geoff in an unofficial beard off, I swear Pats beard is close to being bushier than Geoffs?!
An Officer and a Gentleman!!!
Great Guest, In John We Trust!
John is an absolute delight, he comes across as a down to earth gentlemen and I’ve worked in gaming and pop culture retail for 30 years and can tell his teams are Warlord are fortunate to have such a leader. I’m looking forward to the ABC Warriors game. Thanks for the time everyone, hands down best Patreon questions yet!!
More i listen to John, the more i truly like Warlord Games. I dont currently play any of them games, but i will certainly start looking at them
Yes please for a Cold War era Bolt Action. Especially the dirty, small wars and insurgencies type stuff.
That would be brilliant. Maybe even drug cartel battles in the 70's, 80's. 👍
John: GW make two games...
Peachy: that's Necromunda and War Cry!
😂😂😂❤
😂😂😂 true facts!
@@thepaintingphase 100% agreed ... I'm playing Necromunda tonight!! 😁
It's true, Oldmunda, is rad. Shame Nu-munda though...
@@rutgaurxi7314 disagree, but you do you, if like like old versions play those 👍
@@benburkin7942 I will thanks. Since they were shipped complete and you didn't have to pay for DLC or Even the chance to play in "3D."
But you do you and keep being a good little paypig.
I just had to comment on how lovely and wholesome this podcast was and is. I could have listened to you guys talk for hours more. Thank you very much.
Thank you for the lovely comment 😍👍
Love listening to John and how open he is about everything. Also extremely pumped for a reboot of konflict would be amazing, it’s a fantastic game with a great range.
Could you get some of the Victrix guys on, would love to know more about their story
Thanks for having John on again
Really enjoyed building the new french army box now the infantry got a plastic update over the metal ones .
Brilliant stuff, I could listen to John all day.
Consistently the very best set of hobby discussions and chats, gents. Superb listening and wonderful engagement. Thanks so much for sharing!
The men using the Garand, Carbine, and BAR said: Guh-rand, Carbeen, and B.A.R.
But, you can say it however you want.
Great show, guys! And a great guest once again!
John is a true inspiration, thanks for this chat! Great episode.
Always a joy listening to John, really enjoyed the talking miniatures book. Your last couple of videos have convinced me to finally jump into historical!
This is my favorite podcast, really makes me feel connected to the history of my hobby.
When I told my Irish Catholic mother that you guys said throwing aways your toys and models was a mortal sin she laughed so hard she cried. Well done chaps!
Excellent as always, cheers.
Talking Miniatures is a wonderful book to read.
Make sure Peachy doesn't look too deep into Colonel Peach, it might be time travel shenanigans and he ends up trapped in the past, destined to become the Colonel.
Hahaha! Ooh I never considered this lol
John is such a legend, was my old CO in the sealed knot ecw reenactment regiment
Great interview. Broke my 'historicals' cherry in 2022 with a Bolt Action project building British and Japanese armies from the Fall of Singapore campaign. As John said, the research side of the project was the most enjoyable part by far. Got to play a fair few games of Bolt Action this year and can't wait to find time to explore more Warlord games and ranges in the future.
I watch TPF whilst doing hobby usually, and just now I was assembling my free Wargame Illustrated Warlord minis of the month whilst John discussed how well that marketing ploy works!
No idea why, but the returning guests are fastbecoming a favourite feature of mine! Keep 'em comming lads!
Really enjoyed this show. Interesting chat on the transition from GW to Warlord.
I'm loving your work. Prime time viewing 👌
John is hilarious when he wants to be. Great episode guys, the chemistry is spot on.
Fantastic interview.
I remember meeting John for my Spirit of Games Workshop course, would have been about 17/18ish years ago there abouts.
I got to ask him one question, and at the time in the Belfast store, all our regulars and vets even then were nuts for anything about the Heresy, so I asked about his thoughts on a Heresy upgrade sprue that people could use on the at the time existing marines, to play out games based in the Heresy.
John said while it was a nice idea, and the Heresy is an area that could be greatly tapped into, he felt it would feel like going backwards, people have rose tinted glasses for the Heresy, and GW wants to be moving forward with 40k, not backwards toward the Heresy.
Was worried that second interviews would mean less to talk about. Very pleased to be wrong :-)
Excellent stuff as usual! :-)
On a visit of the West Point Museum the tour guide very specifically mentioned that the Guh-rand, because it's the name by which the veterans knew it. He said. "When you are tired of being wrong and want to earn the respect of the veterans who carried this rifle into combat, you will call it a guh-rand or the U.S. rifle, caliber .30, M1."
I love those stories! John is a great guest!
Really love how you guys just have a nice chat with a lovely gent, appreciate the thoughtful answers to the questions and can definitely agree that Warlord Games excellent customer service is apparent, they have always dealt with any mispacks very rapidly and cordially.
Loving the epic scale that warlord do, patiently waiting for epic Romans and Samurai.
Also, I feel like it's only right you get on Ronnie from Mantic now!
Another great episode guys! Thanks for all your work on these.
While I'm waiting on Epic Hail Caesar, I would LOVE an epic scale Pony Wars/Plains Indians game! Hopefully the Warlord team will decide to move on that.
Great video! John is such a gent!
Great to see JS on the Painting Phase 👍. We did talk nonsense for hours and hours around Ireland 😆.
I've now added 'that's a two pint problem,' to my vocabulary. You're also slowly luring me slowly into historical wargaming 😂
You're behind the curve.
Perfect timing as I'm painting up my Bolt Action IJA models! Goal of mine for next year is to explore some of the other historical game systems Warlord offer
I just love how passionate John is when it comes to miniatures. Warlord's supposed 'competition' in the miniature's business gets constant praise and John's clear love for Warlord's games and products show. It's definitely refreshing
Aye, nu-GW has been nothing but smoke and mirrors, broken rulesets dressed as "revolutionary," when in reality it's DLC, videogame style.
Another Great Episode and i got to say the customer service from warlord is second to none...its out standing
Great stuff! Hazar!
Another cracking interview. So interesting. When I heard about that Napoleon model with the painter I knew I had to get it. But just found out it was limited to November only 😢! Nooooo
Lovely chat as always. John has a "grandad" voice that makes his words sound like wisdom of the ages XD. You should have Ronnie Renton from Mantic in the future, he's ex gw and looks like a lovely chap for a chat
I received the Talking Miniatures Vol 1&2 for my birthday, and they are lovely books.
Great guest
I just went all-in on Konflikt47 the other day, so glad to hear about the road ahead!
Another great interview, but in general thanks for all the content guys, due to the many hours I have watched this year I have finally joined the Patreon, so expect the odd question from me from now on. 😅
Great to hear Wardruchii! Thanks for the support 😍👍
I bloody love John Stallard, when I first saw him he looked quite fierce but he's such a nice bloke.
Top stuff John and Peachy! Great content.
😍🙏😍
As a scot. "Hoots mon" I felt so at home 😂
Brilliantly done Gents. There must be a part three in this somewhere?
Jesus thqt coffwe belly i am nowhere near John's greatness. Maybe in 30 years. Trully great hobby personality!
Battle Masters. Wow. I think I was 18 ish when that came out. I spray painted them black and used them for a WHFB chaos army...
If you want French Foreign Legion miniatures folks, check out 1898 Miniaturas - they have a great range of them and they're also working on Arab/Berber miniatures too for the period.
Oh man I'm down for Pony Wars!!! I love Warlord games so much
well, now I want to read Charge!, I'd not even heard of it until this interview. Finding a copy is proving difficult.
I bet! Sounds like an interesting read though
Great video! Love hearing more from historical gaming. Does anyone know where this new games shop/venue in north london with these Spanish guys that John mentioned is opening up?
Konflict '47 and Bolt Action are wonderful games, with some great minis. I only hope they keep the Mecha around, as they are some fun sculpts to paint, and can double up well for AdMech robots.
John PLEASE tell me more about ABC Warriors. I love the comics and you mentioned it in passing despite it coming out next month, please advertise your game more!!!!
Pat asking the innocent won't you run out of minatures for a period question.
Meanwhile I'm here fuming "Stalard you mounterbank when do I get plastic Foreing Legion Alpinist for the Narvik battle".
I remember Peachy quoting some ones wisdom about how the bloke who's talking down to you is only ever a osprey book ahead, the flip side of this is you one day might read that osprey book and you will never have a regular brain again.
Osprey have a lot to answer for. 😂
Well, i got a sprue of us marines for bolt action in a goodie bag at the crisis show some years ago, and now i own 7 fully painted bolt action armies. So i guess that tactic works :D
Love the warlord games stuff, have loads of bolt action and napoleonics from them, was doing cleanup on the new belgian napoleonics while i watched this, S oyeah, love the company!
My old man was 9/12th lancers too!
Mr Stallard is my gaming hero. When I am in my 50s I pray I too can have a huge gaming room filled with 1000s of nicely painted figures (well nicely painted from 3 feet away) and superb terrain so I can invite the lads over and roll dice drink beer and eat fatty foods =)
Another cracking episode guys. It's becoming more and more like Sharp is required viewing to understand this podcast XD
Hahaha! Yeah we should have a video labelled ‘everything you need to know about Sharpe in 30 minutes’ and this would be the required viewing 🤣
@@thepaintingphase well I've shown of my ignorance straight away by apparently not even spelling it correctly 😂
@@FrankieRogersArt hornblower is quite good as well
"Shottingham for ya" 🤣
Heh, I live walking distance to an ambulance station, a fire station, and a police headquarters. Until Pat said something, I thought the siren was here! (Which is a comment on the quality of the audio, I suppose. Or the quality of my eardrums...)
Anyway, this was grand! I have Warlord Veteran Romans sitting on my "in progress" shelf right now. (I also have two Opel Blitzes, though from Taimya, not Warlord. I painted them in civilian colours and use them for 1920s Gangster skirmishes.)
I will say this, though: the next time one has a bunch of Ukrainian extras in a show, I'm pretty sure they'll know how to hold a firearm.
Hi Guys, just a question when does the audio version get uploaded to Spotify? Keep up the good content.
The Native Americans stuff reminds me of The Last of the Mohicans movie. I would love go do that. Both mass battle and small/medium ranged skirmish game too ❤
hero quest = grateway drug
24:11 - This is so True. I bought a Wargames Mag and it had sprue of Napolionic Infantry, Still sitting on my pile of shame over 1 year later XD
“Pile of Potential”. There’s no shame here. 😉
RE the conversation about 1:00:00 - the whole 'is it okay to play historical wargames' thing. I've always thought that it's 'okay' as long as the war isn't glorified.
i.e. I like to play for the strategy & tactics, the story and struggles of the people involved. I think it's only really an 'issue' when people get a bit too keen on how 'cool' war is as a concept if that makes sense.
Great stuff team - another great conversation :D Any chance of one of the generic YT studio tours? Unfinished corners and all 😜
Its all ways been a bit odd playing with history, Vietnam war movies are ok, the Iraq wars are ok for video games.
But as a reenactor i have a personal 1870s cut off.
A part of that is the separation, if tell me that your great great...X granddad died at runaway down or waterloo that's a bit of history, but ww2 there folks around now that where there.
Maybe it the evilness, ww2 has sub fraction that is flat out evil, you can argue English civil wars roundheads an cavaliers either way and that the same with most wars but not ww2.
Stop tempting me to buy Polish Winged Hussars!
I see a box of my dudes. Nice.
We need a nice Hard Cheese for the Commander, ultra Sharp Vermont Cheddar. American singles for troops cause they are super cheap and flexible.
Legend
Peachy - you just cost me money! I was looking at heroquest the other day for nostalgia and introducing to my kids but decided they were a bit too young. Now you said you got it and played with your boy (who is the same age as mine). Straight out to buy it!
Awesome! Yeah my lad is so invested in the quests, I’ve had to allow a few minor rules infractions, like the odd re roll, but he’s happy and so am I lol
@@thepaintingphaseso glad you mentioned playing with Charlie. Played the first mission after school Friday and the first thing he wanted to do this morning was play the second. We were out during the day but as soon as we got home it was mission three. Fair to say he loves it.
I also have a younger boy too who played the first mission but after that just wanted to play with the models in an unused part of the board as we played.
Had to fudge one roll in the first mission, but that's it so far. MVP has been the wizard so far, how about you?
Black Coffee drinker from Texas here, all this tea talk, what's the go to brand / tea. I'm in to give it a shot (go?) for better mini paint jobs! Will it help paint eyes?
Yorkshire Tea is our go to on the channel. Although PG Tips are decent enough. Remember add milk till the Tea is colour of animated He-Man’s skin.
32:10 ... But Jurrasic Park 1 CGI looks better then modern Jurrasic world stuff and doesnt fall as much into un-canny valley. Regarding the SLRs, any Australian Vietnam Vet will also tell you they love the SLR rifle. Such a great rifle.
A funny information: you were mentioning "Who Cares Who Wins" as the apathetic version of SAS... You might be surprised to know that a former SAS officer, Lt. Jimmy Quentin Hughes who was the sole survivor of the ill fated Operation Pomegranate in 1944 against the S. Egidio airport in Perugia, actually titled his own memories "Who Cares Who Wins" and says that that was quite often used as a phrase amongst his unit...
Merch idea- tshirt with "militant cheese" with a piece of swiss cheese holding a sword. You're welcome.
Cool 👍
Don't forget! Geoff was in the military. Just mentioning.
Thanks for having my back, in my absence.
please allow for 15mm 1947 as goblin were trying to do as I think you will sell that on top of your 28mm bolt action extended range without eating into it.
Perry’s have been excommunicated from the painting phase
Unless I am missing something, where is the link for Mr Stallard book?
If you expand the Description section for the video, there’s a link in there for “Buy talking miniatires”. Their typo, not mine. 😉😂
Seems to have worked as for some reason I’ve a copy of Wargames Illustrated and some Napoleonics to paint
I would love to see some cowboys and native americans in the future from Warlord games 👍
Everybody is buying Opel Blitz because trucks are really good in Bolt Action!
Get Bob, John, Robin, Gary and Alessio on as resident guests??????
Do the west! I have just the vaguest memories of a Necromunda-style game set in the Wild West. I think it was from GW. But I've never been able to turn it up again, and I want something like that.
Dark Future??
It was called Legends of the Old West. Do some Googling and you'll be able to find a download of the rules.
Peachy.You want to use the 54mm Victrix for your square diorama
I really want a World War 1 miniatures tabletop game. I would love to have Austrians fighting Italians or Russians. Or have Ottomans vs British. So much more variety than isn't and would be great for some "what if" scenarios. I always had an interest in WWI. Diplomacy is one of my favorite games but that is not a tabletop wargame (pure negotiation game really).
Firelock Games do a WW1 ruleset and miniatures that isn't just trench warfare
Ahhh Margate where I was born…..now they open wargaming now I’m a southern exile in the north 😂
Yes a New batch of Caesarian Romans
I think when it comes to it we play modern day battles in our console and pc games so I don't see why it can't be done on the table top
A fair point and observation, but then from a personal point I’m not that into those games unless it’s very far removed like crisis or the original far cry. A personal thing on my part though - Peachy
I understand I've never been much of a gamer myself last cod I brought was about a decade ago , I only play Fortnite because my friends do so it's more of a social thing. I've still not had a game of 40k yet but I only live a stones throw away from Bad Moon Cafe in London so I've not got far to go if I want to give it a go.
Also ‘GW make two games’
Yep: Man O’ War and Titan Legions 👍
Man o' war and blood bowl
Thought it was George Lucas on the thumbnail for a second, had to double check! 😂
I also want to note, osprey can be veeeeery misleading as a source for equipment and uniforms :D
Can you direct us to some better sources? 👍
Depends on what you are looking for. There's not catchall one stop shop for history.
Osprey isn't the worst place to start if you follow up on the sources it is using, but you gotta follow up. Check what they are citing.@@Andy__H
Doesn't every British Line Infantry Regiment have a cheese named after it? one for the Napoleonic's.