So how then switching personas would work? Is everyone is going to be able to switch personas(like in p1 and 2), or only Elizabeth? And if its only her ability, then is she going to be like a second mandatory party member? Because using different personas is like most op thing in all of series gameplay, and there is no objective reason to not use. (Except if game is literally forces you to do it, but i don't believe that modern atlus is either brave or insane enough to do that)
@@RokuDBand then he was just given a short time to reconcile with his former team members before disappearing completely just like what Jesus did paying a visit on his apostles
I really hope they touch upon these conversations in a future game. Even if Elizabeth isn't a protagonist in a future game, I want to know what happened on her journey!
Def not mc, that would be stupid. Maybe as a dlc or some kind of spin off. But she will def be a major character in p6, since it will be thr third game after persona 3
Persona 3 Reload DLC: The Velvet Room. Basically the MC just waits in the Velvet Room or in the back alley waiting for their human to come fuse personas. Maybe throw in some sidequests about hoarding Twilight Fragments. All Social Links are with Igor.
@@silentlore2458I audibly laughed at this. They have full access to the compendium Quick edit: didn't mean to come off negative, just had a "Do they know" moment
@fink_rat but that's what I mean, they use their compendium like grimoire weiss from nier. They'd be able to freely use those persona abilities with the book
@@silentlore2458this is the worst fucking idea I’ve ever fucking heard. The game wouldn’t be a fucking shitty hack and slash when it’s been a turn based for 20 years
P3: People are scared to face the reality, so they embrace death P4: When you took away people’s desire to embrace death, they’ll seek lies to hide from the truth. P5: When you took away people’s desire to accept lies and instead accept the truth. Their truth is that their only purpose is to submit and let someone in higher power define their purpose. Now, what happens if you take away people’s desire to submit?
Now the most easiest answer is being lost and aimless, not every has goals and passion. Now, people will be subject to either use freedom the most or just waste it. The pressures of that subconscious will be interesting to explore.
this reply thread sounds like a gathering of cloaked ff14/typical fantasy genre people muttering vague prophecies in a dimly lighted room and im all for it😂 If they rebel from sloth, what happens then should they find drive to move? i merely ponder what would be next for our little wild cards to unravel, seeing as we've already faced Mortality, Lies, and Society. Anyone have any clues as to whats next?
Would be fun to have Elizabeth become a guest and Theo being her attendant, the return of a fan favorite with the spotlight shared with the often forgotten one
The idea of Elizabeth being the protagonist of P6 and trying to free Makoto has so much potential that it is ridicolous. However, as much as it pains me, it won't happen. At least not as a mainline entry, as all the big minds of Persona moved to Metaphor: ReFantazio. In other words, the people that made P3, P4 and P5 are not working in P6.
It would be a good starting point for a persona game to be adult based since I've been seeing alot more people do want a persona game with a adult mc Would it Not make sense to make it someone from the old cast? 🤔 Not to mention I do feel like persona 3 left off with an unfinished note and the whole thing with elizabeth, I just hope it leads to somewhere and doesn't just end there. Like you said there's so much potential there!!! It urks me to think it won't lead anywhere but here's hoping 🤞🤞
@@CYN2207 I don't remember where I heard this but the people that are working in Persona 6 were interviewed not long ago and said that "the high school ambience" was going to be present in P6, so I don't think we're getting adult protagonists for now.
@adrielalonso1026 Yeah I heard about that a few days ago on my newslist, perhaps they aren't ready for that big leap, since it is what has been the norm for so long now. But I do feel like Elizabeth's story isn't finished not by a long shot but who knows, only time will tell if they do decide to go through with it. I have this feeling that they might do one someday hopefully before I reach 40+ 😭💀
@@CYN2207 Don't worry, they will. After all, P3R sold way much more than Atlus and anyone expected, so they probably will start milking Persona 3 again.
Hopefully After the announcement of the answer dlc and it being the final chapter of persona 3 I hope it doesn't mean the end of the p3 cast as a whole and Makoto being stuck as a seal. I don't really like the idea that he sacrificed his own life to hold nyx for all eternity, just does not feel right. I hope that at the end of the dlc they answer what happened to Elizabeth after she left the velvet room But here's hoping that persona 6 has a happy as heck ending and not a bittersweet one 😭😭
Well, since Nyx was brought about by humanity's desire for freedom, and Joker killed the god of control at P5's original ending, I imagine she'll need to try to help him out sooner rather than later...
Except the part where the “gods” in p4/p5 are just living metaphors and Nyx is a actual cosmic horror that are the baring pillar for the collective unconscious those gods are from and what creates shadows, and I imagine we all know what happens if one’s shadow is removed (apathy syndrome/psychotic shut down)
@@shiningstar737 Yaldabaorth is quite literally a Cosmic threat considering he has the power to end humanity / grant powers to the protag and antag as well as creating the Metaverse, He exists because of humanity so id say he is indeed a god and a threat on the same level.
@@shiningstar737gods in p4 arent exactly living metaphors, according to a line marie says near the end she always existed as one god meant to fulfill the wishes of humanity and protect them, but the part of her that wanted to protect humans and the part that wanted to fulfill their desires contradicted and she split into Izanami, Yaldabaoth is created from humanities wish to be controlled but calling him a metaphor when he merged 2 realms seems unsermining
@@AmphotericcMikemarie saying she was a god meant to protect humans still implies she was brought about by there wishes, nyx predates humans and was even partly responsible for the creation of humans in the first place.
@@josephdiab3010 She doesnt really exist because humans wished for something tho, just wants to protect them and fulfill their wishes, Nyx is def a much more celestial being but Izanami is still its own thing
This is an interesting video. The P3 cast accepted Makoto's sacrifice and vowed to live their lives as best they can to ease his burden. Not only that, but they also know that he DOESN'T want to be saved. So if Elizabeth becomes P6's protagonist, then does that mean she's going to have to go up against SEES? Food for thought :0
When Elizabeth told the story to Margaret, she gave a hint and said that if her powers isn't enough to accomplish her goals, she will go to the people that the boy did have a strong bond with and ask them for their help. So I doubt she will fight the s.e.e.s. members but instead will want their help on saving Makoto. We could see a return of the ogs if they plan on making Elizabeth a protagonist
I don’t think it’s that he DOESN’T want to be saved, it’s more like he just made peace with his fate because he knows his decision will keep his friends safe. I’m sure if Elizabeth can find a way to save him without basically ending the world, he would be happy with it
I hope one day there is a persona Game where Nyx returns even more stronger and all previous wildcards gather together along with they’re peers… sounds like PQ3 lol
Fits in with the adjacent Jojo part being Stone Ocean - Fem Protagonist - Has massive ties to the 3rd protag - Major goal is to save them from death, alongside of course saving the world As well, she could probably be the one that deals the final blow, as Emporio takes a lot of design cues from the Velvet Room Custodians - Golden Eyes and Light hair - Blue Clothing Color Scheme - Born from nothing - Their ability manifests special locations and items that are beyond time and space
dude, i'd LOVE some sort of persona game (probably a spinoff) where you play as elizabeth and you have to defeat that thing that makoto is protecting nyx from in fes. probably not any time in the near future because reload DID just come out but
I dont think they will because in canon Elizabeth fights Erebus every month to help out MC. So they cant make a game out of that concept but maybe something else?
1. Elizabeth wins against nyx 2. P3 mc life force saved but cannot return to real world, can only exist in between dreams and reality 3. Igor says he is getting too old and wants a successor to his craft
Just as the real Messiah came back to us 3 days after his death on the cross, so too does this game's Messiah will return to us after 3 Persona mainline games.
If Elizabeth somehow becomes the MC and tries to free him, it will be the most epic case of "thirst" ever. "A girl leaves her secure job and stable life in order to save the boy who took her V card, even if it risks breaking the seal that protects the world from its end"
I don't think it will happen sadly. But i would love to have some "news" regarding Elizabeth's journey in future games. Having a little hint of Makoto being alive in Maruki distorded world in P5R would have been great for example
While I think Elizabeth won't get the closure she is looking for (which is what I think is most likely), I'm still hoping we get to see her journey to the end and we save our boy, nay our god, Emo Jesus!
Imagine if in persona 6 the new velvet room attendant is makoto yuki but in a different body with no memories and his sidequest is you help him regain his memories and that elizabeth saved his soul from being a seal for eternity by sacrificing herself to free him
You know it be interesting if Elizabeth reborn herself (which isn’t the first time as the attendees are split from Philemon) to be human so that she can form bonds to save Makoto, but in it the reborn version comes to reject it by truly understanding the themes of the 3 games, rejecting others control over what you want, coming to understand who you really are and what it means to live. but also go against the core mechanics of social links, seeing them as a means to a end to get stronger and accomplish your goals, as Elizabeth is so focused on Makoto she limits her experience with others to form meaningful bonds. The final fight is the reincarnation vs Elizabeth’s echo’s resolve, getting her to understand and accept that there’s nothing you can do to save him, accepting that he is gone. For the reborns persona it would be something that between two states and contemplation, so the hanged man would work for it, but all protagonist are the fool so it would be a version of them before that and to be a means to a end, a sacrifice. I propose Attis before their death in the mythology and that Elizabeth would be then the earth mother and slayer of betrayer Cybele of the lovers arcana for her love of Makoto, but reversed against her reincarnation, but also the priestess for holding divine knowledge
She will be rid of her Velvet Room powers, given the Fool arcana (makes sense, giving it all away for one's self satisfaction) but retained the access to coorindate with other Persona users across time to help her because freeing Makoto means going against the purest form of Nyx
i actually cried watching this, i was already "ok" with the idea of my boy being forever gone, but now that the possibilities of him returning are still on gives me hope and fear at the same time, idk maybe im being too corny but i just love Makoto so much, i want him back...
What if P6 was Elizabeth being the fool tarot and trying to save P3 protag and all of her social links are all playable characters from previous games aged up a couple of years bc of a small time jump. I would love that
Watching this video...eyes started filling with tears Even when P3 protagonist did what he done to protect mankind, Elizabeth wanted to defy fate and save him And the part when the Fool Card appeared before Elizabeth, thats when the tears started flowing *My girl has started her quest to save a soul she loves, universe be damned* How many stories and legends involved a brave person ventured through hell to save someone?
Persona 6 would be a good time where all of series connected to prevent the greatest threat, and making the Nyx seal's gone broke will be a good starting point i think. I just love a story where Heroes from different/previous series defeating a big bad guy. Thats why i like Persona Q 😂
I do hope we see some continuation of Elizabeth’s journey. One of my very few criticisms or P5 story wise was that there was no explicit mention of her from what I can recall……also where is Margaret for that matter?
Very good points and Questions, Now that i think about it, i guess the whole “Elizabeth leaving the Velvet Room” Plot-Point was made to also explain why Margaret was in P4 instead of her, But we don’t really get anything like that in P5 do we? Lavenza/The Twins is just there without any real explanation as to what happened to Margaret, or even Theodore for that matter, like we got for Elizabeth in P4. Never really thought that, I wonder what exactly happens that leads into Igor getting a new attendant each time?
@@johanstenfelt1206the velvet room attendees change for every guest visiting, basically I think they change to adjust to the guests circumstances, and all bring their own unique way of helping them through their journey, at least that’s what I think
After playing through her story in P4 arena, i was so huped when she drew the fool. Shes on her journey to save him, and shell see it through. Plus Minato would be PRIME Velvet Room material
I can see some other persona being the main protag in P6, and we’ll help elizabeth, we’ll get help from SEES then after that we’ll go to the phatom thieves and maybe even the group from P4. P6 could be a huge game with every single character from the past in it.
I’m calling it now: We’re either gonna get another P5 sequel bringing back the Investigation Team and Shadow Operatives for Elizabeth or she’s gonna return as a major character in Persona 6, albeit not as a Velvet Room attendant.
I could imagine it. That guy literally has god as his ultimate persona, has two wild cards one of them the highest card a persona user with potential can obtain which is the universe card. Only two known people in this universe have that. Not to mention he had created a miracle that led to humanity's survival There's no better replacement to Igor
NGL i would much prefer an actual new Persona 6 and Elizabeth either getting a spinoff game or a side episode in Persona 6 Someone once said Elizabeth's story should be called *Persona 3: The Promise* to match or mirror The Answer and i like that
I don't think Elizabeth will ever be an MC, but I do believe we'll see her as another supporting character someday. They can't just abandon her journey to the background. There must be a time where we connect with her to either further her goal or complete it ourselves with her help.
I pray pray pray pray that i live long enough to see the conclusion of her and Aigis' journey to save his soul. I feel like we came close in persona 4 arena, but it was just a tease. With the P3 remake, im hoping it regains popularity enough that Atlus considers bringing her back.
That's actually odd tho. If they don't have plans on following up Elizabeth's journey, why would they put a lot of persona 3 Easter eggs in persona 5 and give us persona 3 reload then putting joker as a special boss in the answer dlc which doesn't have connections with the plot? Atlus is cooking something
Man I hope someday we get a persona that's kind of like Trails into Reverie where it has all the MC going around in their own story but they eventually meet up and fight for a common cause. Ofc I realize P3 Mc is still a door which hopefully he gets rescued soon and all the other protagonists will have drastic age differences so yeah it probably won't happen but it would be cool. If you never played Trails into Reverie I gotta say you have to try it out, or at least the entire legend of heros saga starting with Trails in the Sky the other ones before don't necessarily count. Hey if you like Persona you'll definitely like that...most likely.
Nah it still fits because Reverie only had protags from the 2 most recent arcs leading routes. So Elizabeth being the C equivalent with a new party would work.
@@joaocbcneto Unfortunately not gonna happen because Atlus consider the Q games as mainline and canon, yet they do literally nothing for the overall plot since nobody but maybe the Velvet room attendants remember any of the events that take place.
I'm highly doubt that Eli will be P6 mc, because if u understands her intentions meaning she planning to unseal the door inorder to save him. Albeit she claims to be foolish yet she's not moron enough to letting whatever behind that door out without preparing the consequences. So what i hope for future P6 concept will be, i do hope that P6 MC's will be happens in continents other than japan(for more than 5 consecutives times). If the source why Nyx came because human desires itself, then i think it would be logical for Persona MC's to "fix" those human desires around the globe by estabilishing Persona user that hopefully gaining another World arcana that helps countermeassure Nyx. And eventually give deeper meaning & concept since i don't think it would be that simple to treating World arcana as same level as Universe arcana. So if indeed Elizabeth planned to be another Persona MC, then it most likely happened in the very last of Persona franchise where the settings are replicating the events of real jugdement day, like Emo Jesus descend back to earthwith the help of Elizabeth and lead humanity through judgement day . Appear identically to P3 but this time whole humanity gear up with their persona's & World arcana around the world to repel Nyx for years or maybe eons until come back once again (although they can't kill/erasing Nyx since its embodiment of death/end).
Elizabeth is such a strange creature I would love a story focused around her it would be amazing, seeing her take everything in the human world at face value and have everybody think she's a weirdo for asking weird request like wanting s bottle of pills to pop in exchange for a megidolan card or if you can find someone who happens to have a spare 9mm pistol on hand before the full moon so she can observe it
If you guys are wondering why the video looks a bit different is because i used this filter for most of my edits, if you don’t like it please give feedbacks 🙌🏾
Or they could simply release him from being a seal because humanity isn't wishing for demise anymore because of the people that promised they will change the world and make it a better place by giving happiness to the people
makes you wonder with how the last 3 Persona games clearly take place in a linear timeline how much the events of P4G and P5R have affected Elizabeth's journey. While i doubt she'd be the protagonist for P6, I could see her and whomever she has created the bonds with making a cameo similar to Chihiro's in P4. It'll be interesting to see if Atlus does decide to truly try and interconnect the stories of the living wild-card users in a main series game at some point, instead of limiting it to a fighting game.
This ongoing arc has fascinated me for years, and one other little nod to Elizabeth's strong feelings for the P3MC comes up in PQ. I forget the name of it, but there was a side-quest that involved taking Elizabeth and Margaret on an outing, and as part of it they go see a movie. The whole quest is mostly goofs, but it's offhandedly mentioned that - specifically during a movie about a woman who fell in love with a ghost - Elizabeth started crying. I understand some think that this storyline undermines Persona 3's ending in some way, but I do hope we see Elizabeth's quest come to a conclusion one day!
Yeah, no, Elizabeth definitely isnt gonna be a protag, because while her freeing Door-Kun would be nice, it would completely invalidate his own growth and journey.(It would also be him breaking his contract with Igor/Philemon, since accepting being freed by Elizabeth wouldn't be taking responsibility for his actions) The accident that took his parents completely detached Minato(or Mikoto, depending on your preference) from the world, causing him to just drift aimlessly through life, to the point he had absolutely no qualms about embracing death(hence why he had no issues with the Evoker, since summoning Personas in 3 involves invoking death, and why a certain boy took residence inside him, giving him 2 Arcana, The Fool and Death). Over time though, instead of drifting through life, just waiting for death to finally claim him like it should have the day of the crash, he begins forming bonds, finding people he can actually care about to the point that instead of embracing death just to have things be over, he embraces death so that others can live: its also why the social links go a month(iirc) without him saying a peep to them about whats going to happen. He doesnt want that last month to be tainted for them, he wants them to be able to live happy lives: sure, his sacrifice in becoming the seal saves humanity, but Minato did it to save his friends, the closest thing he now has to family
As per the leaks, persona 6 will take place on a timeline where teens are about to graduate in highschool and young adults starting their college life. We will also have a female protag as the leaks says Its similar to what happened to the S.E.E.S members after the events of persona 3 (dlc included). Atleast the going into college thing
Aside from the fact we get to see all of the p3 to p5 cast grown up (not just p3), i really think a beautiful story can be written with Elizabeth being the focus, and connecting the entire series through Philemon guiding everyone (or being the enemy) woukd be awesome. Its a shame though that it loiks like we may not get that, as Midori claims its going to be another High School experience, which leads me to believe it will be a whole new cast again
this makes me want it to be like SMT 4 Appoc in the sense that there's two teams of 4; you have P3, 4, 5 and 6 MC's in one team, and maybe the other team be that respective persona games' best friend or so. you never know, but just the thought of watching a battle with maybe Igor sense in Appoc you fight Steven as a way of testing everyone, that would be a true insperation of why i love the SMT/Persona series.
I think p6 MC should be Elizabeth. With her gaining the Fool card, the back story from the Arena series, and with the recent release of P3re, the set up is now prime to continue P3's story to a proper close. Many people has now and will eventually play P3 as now people are brought to speed in P3's lore. If it wasnt for P3re, many people would not understand the back story and any references Elizabeth makes if this goes in that direction. The only people who'll be able to follow the story are mostly those who played the original P3/P3fes/P3P. By then, when p6 comes out, most of those ps2 era gamers would be in their 40's and up.
Also the leaks about p6 having a female MC and is set in a time where young adults are going off to college while teens are about to graduate in high school sounds similar to what became of the S.E.E.S. after the events of persona 3
Man they could do so much with this concept. We know so little of Igor's world as it is. And its been mysterious for a long time now....Maybe its time to explore that domain. If not in Persona 6, than its own spin off with Liz in the drivers seat.....?
It would be a cool Spin-Off were Elizabeth maybe teams up with Theodore and the previous Persona protagonists in a comic level battles against who knows what to free the P3 protagonist.
Imagine if we get 2 more persona games and elizabeth makes cameos for each of them each at different points in her journey, then persona 8 comes out and elizabeth is the main protagonist with every persona characters (persona 1-2, 4-7) and them being able to undo the seal of makoto, then makoto rejoins the group and everyone faces off against Nyx for a final all out battle. Since everyone is a powerful wildcard at the end of their stories, they would be able to aid Makoto push back Nyx for good (unlike what happened at the end of P3 where he is the last one standing).
Maybe not main line game like persona 6, but a spin off game, because the main line game’s protagonist has to be a self insert(we should have an option to pick a Female or male)
I think maybe p7 since p6 is apparently still in highschool. But I could see maybe a sequel like the answer of Elizabeth being the villain. And Aigis being the mc. A battle of ideals, the one who waits to save them. Vs the one who took action
I think what they mean by freeing him, I think they mean by giving him an afterlife. In that sense, I doubt Aigis or the P3 cast would have much of an issue doing that
I already saw someone comment this about all the wildcards coming back to stop erebus. I would take it one step further. In order to truly end the cycle they would all work together to seal away anything persona related. And make it just like our real world. But all the wildcards would die in doing this. The conpanions of each group would survive. Imo that would be a way to end the persona series if atlus ever wants to reboot it. Also this wouldn't have to be persona 6 this could be for like the 8th or 9th game if we ever get to it.
If Makoto, a wild card, can seal nyx easily by just himself in exchange of his life, the other wild cards can do the same BUT without them sacrificing their own lives since there's a lot of them now that they can share their own power without any consequences
@@loserinasuit7880 well Mc seal A GOd in a mortal Body...and Mc still have few months to enjoy his daily life before passed away (at least not a instant dead)
Hm, fascinating, I have been thinking about Elizabeth potentially being a MC of some kind of a Story of her own, be it a Game or otherwise, Especially since that does seem to be the case that all of these moments are seemingly alluding to. However, i never even considered the possibility of that said Story to be the Main Story for a Main Title Game with her as the overall MC of said Game, I gotta say, having the MC for P6 be someone who pretty much were already established in a much more early title, rather than someone completely new like usual, does sound very interesting, but I have to wonder though, would they go for something like that? Still, I guess that mostly depends on what Persona 6 is going to be about, speaking of which did we have any info on P6 already or do i remember wrong? Regardless, I do hope we do get some further development on this Elizabeth’s Journey plot-line that seemed to be alluded to throughout the P4 Titles, I mean, there’s no way that they’re just going to have a development like Elizabeth leaving the Velvet Room and then just leave us hanging, right? Especially considering that the whole “Elizabeth has left the Velvet Room” Plot-Point wasn’t something that, I think, even got alluded to in the Original Title where she got first introduced in, no that was something told to us through her Sister in the Next Main Title and has even been developed upon throughout the P4 Era of Games, it has been portrayed as a pretty serious thing too, i mean Margaret did straight up say that she did plan to bring Elizabeth back by force at some point, So seriously, there’s no way that they can just develop a Plot-Point like that and then just have it not go anywhere or what, are we just supposed to think that Elizabeth is just having her own Journey behind the scenes somewhere or something? Regardless of whether it’s through a Main Title or through her own Spin-off Title, I would really like to see how Elizabeth’s Story has gone since then.
I have a crackpot theory that this story is going to be in persona 5 arena instead. I wonder if theo is also searching away to save femc in an alt universe
If Elizabeth was the MC for 6, I would go nuts. Its literally everything I could ask for in a Partsona game: female protagonist, Elizabeth, seeing the power of a Velvet Room attendant, a continuation of the 3 story, a possible return to the system before Persona 3... It could be a truly remarkable game. Copium overloud is a thing 😅.
I doubt we'll see Elizabeth be the MC of P6, even though I WOULD be happy if she were if not the P6 MC then the MC of another Persona game. Elizabeth being a protagonist of an adventure has been set up a lot, as your video shows. I think Elizabeth as a protagonist would be really fun. Her being able to summon multiple Personas is already a thing. Imagine Elizabeth recruiting Theo as her reluctant support character who helps her with things like navi, fusions, etc. I'd pay for a game just to have those two together. Even if Elizabeth doesn't get her own game they could integrate her into being a large part of a Persona story. Such as the events of P6 end up necessitating Makoto, or something else that causes Elizabeth crossing paths with the party and they have to work together for a common purpose that includes Elizabeth's mission to bring Makoto back.
It will not be Elisabeth cause confidants would be messed up, but I can see clear as the day helping her most of the early game. Would be cool if they give us hints about this on Refantazio
2:50 is she talking about sho minazuki? Is he going to be a protagonist in the next persona game? I didn't play P4AU i don't even know who Sho is. He reminds me of Joker tho he loves saying "it's showtime"
I guess all of that started before the Answer.. Elizabeth got the Fool arcana and pass it down to Aigis.. thats why Aigis suddenly can summoned Orpheus..
So, Elizabeth *did* visit Makoto more than once, huh? You all say Yu is a Giga Chad, but Makoto's "bedtime manners" made a Velvet Room attendant leave, just so she could get more.
P6 will be the grand finale, with the protagonist finally saving the world once and for all, and Door-kun will be saved without losing the meaning of P3. The savior who met a fate worse than death, to only be able to seal humanity's desire while accepting that it's his fate, we came from that, to a dude who took down 3 fake gods, changed everyone's hearts, without a single sacrificial (Akechi is not dead, I cope). I am hyping for whatever P6 might me, they're foreshadowing something big, and Makoto will be revived, cause that's what my copium devil says to me every night since I finished P3. IN ELIZABETH WE TRUST.
Either ATLUS really enjoys revisiting Elizabeth's journey to save Makoto in multiple games... or maaaaaybe they're setting something up? It can be a spin off; where her dream finally comes true?
I don't think P6 will be a sequel for various reasons. First of all, with the ever-increasing popularity of the saga, it would be a weird move to make your main game dependent on another "less popular" game, and considering 3, 4, and 5 are very closely tied, I'd expect the same from 6. My main reason is that I think P4A plot, thus including Elizabeth trying to free P3MC, was supposedly going to work as an epilogue for P5, which, by the early build leaks, seemed to be more related to the older titles than a standalone one. So when P5 got scrapped and remade, this bigger storyline might have been scrapped (for example, Sho is hinted to have a "journey" similar to yours in the game, but we never hear of him ever again, and the scrapped female MC of the early P5 is very similar to Sho, so I believe it got scrapped). Also, because P4A was co-developed with Arc sys maybe there is some legal stuff going on or the writers of the game aren't part of Atlus, but that's more far-fetched.
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Imagine if in persona 6, the protagonist isn't the fool, and you make your own journey to help elizabeth in hers
So how then switching personas would work? Is everyone is going to be able to switch personas(like in p1 and 2), or only Elizabeth? And if its only her ability, then is she going to be like a second mandatory party member? Because using different personas is like most op thing in all of series gameplay, and there is no objective reason to not use. (Except if game is literally forces you to do it, but i don't believe that modern atlus is either brave or insane enough to do that)
I mean ... a man can hope
@losharikoved maybe she would hide her identity and have it revealed to us in an awesome plot-twist or something
But the fool is the card of all multiple persona users. Number 0, infinite possibilities.
No, even if Margret defected to start her own journey, she would still start on the Fool’s Journey, like Elizabeth did at the end of Arena.
Ngl if persona 6 is Elizabeth trying to get to door-kun. I would play the life out of it.
Persona 3 x 2 = 6 ?
@@badmanbajing4965makoto rises after 3 games kinda like…
@@RokuDBJesus Christ... (Literally)
@@RokuDBand then he was just given a short time to reconcile with his former team members before disappearing completely just like what Jesus did paying a visit on his apostles
Hopefully..with the Christ/messiah all things are possible.
Makoto is a lucky guy having someone like elizabeth trying to save him no matter how much time it takes.
unlike some sees scums
I really hope they touch upon these conversations in a future game. Even if Elizabeth isn't a protagonist in a future game, I want to know what happened on her journey!
Sho is also a candidate for a protag eventually
Def not mc, that would be stupid. Maybe as a dlc or some kind of spin off. But she will def be a major character in p6, since it will be thr third game after persona 3
Hoping that the rumored p3r answer dlc is exactly this instead of what the answer was
@@SomeoneYK23 i did, very nervous they will change nothing lol
@@SomeoneYK23 just saw the developer update. They are indeed changing nothing : (
Persona 3 Reload DLC: The Velvet Room. Basically the MC just waits in the Velvet Room or in the back alley waiting for their human to come fuse personas. Maybe throw in some sidequests about hoarding Twilight Fragments. All Social Links are with Igor.
And the combat is like nier because The velvet room attendants have no personas but do have a grimoire
@@silentlore2458I audibly laughed at this. They have full access to the compendium
Quick edit: didn't mean to come off negative, just had a "Do they know" moment
Behold, someone who doesnt know about The Answer.
@fink_rat but that's what I mean, they use their compendium like grimoire weiss from nier. They'd be able to freely use those persona abilities with the book
@@silentlore2458this is the worst fucking idea I’ve ever fucking heard. The game wouldn’t be a fucking shitty hack and slash when it’s been a turn based for 20 years
P3: People are scared to face the reality, so they embrace death
P4: When you took away people’s desire to embrace death, they’ll seek lies to hide from the truth.
P5: When you took away people’s desire to accept lies and instead accept the truth. Their truth is that their only purpose is to submit and let someone in higher power define their purpose.
Now, what happens if you take away people’s desire to submit?
Their hunger for more power and chaos yeah we are gonna go for politicians 🗿🗿🗿🦍🦍🦍🔥🔥
Now the most easiest answer is being lost and aimless, not every has goals and passion.
Now, people will be subject to either use freedom the most or just waste it. The pressures of that subconscious will be interesting to explore.
They rebel from the sloth. And seek the truth
They choose to wander and find their own meaning
this reply thread sounds like a gathering of cloaked ff14/typical fantasy genre people muttering vague prophecies in a dimly lighted room and im all for it😂
If they rebel from sloth, what happens then should they find drive to move?
i merely ponder what would be next for our little wild cards to unravel, seeing as we've already faced Mortality, Lies, and Society.
Anyone have any clues as to whats next?
Would be fun to have Elizabeth become a guest and Theo being her attendant, the return of a fan favorite with the spotlight shared with the often forgotten one
or all the velvet attendants to be hers since they are all family, plus in seeing how her journey goes as a family to see her complete it fully
I think I read a FanFic about that was basically that some point.
@@monokomomo4977 that would be very interesting, perhaps we could then learn just how big her Family is exactly.
The idea of Elizabeth being the protagonist of P6 and trying to free Makoto has so much potential that it is ridicolous. However, as much as it pains me, it won't happen. At least not as a mainline entry, as all the big minds of Persona moved to Metaphor: ReFantazio. In other words, the people that made P3, P4 and P5 are not working in P6.
It would be a good starting point for a persona game to be adult based since I've been seeing alot more people do want a persona game with a adult mc
Would it Not make sense to make it someone from the old cast? 🤔
Not to mention I do feel like persona 3 left off with an unfinished note and the whole thing with elizabeth, I just hope it leads to somewhere and doesn't just end there. Like you said there's so much potential there!!!
It urks me to think it won't lead anywhere but here's hoping 🤞🤞
@@CYN2207 I don't remember where I heard this but the people that are working in Persona 6 were interviewed not long ago and said that "the high school ambience" was going to be present in P6, so I don't think we're getting adult protagonists for now.
@adrielalonso1026 Yeah I heard about that a few days ago on my newslist, perhaps they aren't ready for that big leap, since it is what has been the norm for so long now.
But I do feel like Elizabeth's story isn't finished not by a long shot but who knows, only time will tell if they do decide to go through with it.
I have this feeling that they might do one someday hopefully before I reach 40+ 😭💀
@@CYN2207 Don't worry, they will. After all, P3R sold way much more than Atlus and anyone expected, so they probably will start milking Persona 3 again.
Hopefully
After the announcement of the answer dlc and it being the final chapter of persona 3 I hope it doesn't mean the end of the p3 cast as a whole and Makoto being stuck as a seal.
I don't really like the idea that he sacrificed his own life to hold nyx for all eternity, just does not feel right. I hope that at the end of the dlc they answer what happened to Elizabeth after she left the velvet room
But here's hoping that persona 6 has a happy as heck ending and not a bittersweet one 😭😭
Well, since Nyx was brought about by humanity's desire for freedom, and Joker killed the god of control at P5's original ending, I imagine she'll need to try to help him out sooner rather than later...
Except the part where the “gods” in p4/p5 are just living metaphors and Nyx is a actual cosmic horror that are the baring pillar for the collective unconscious those gods are from and what creates shadows, and I imagine we all know what happens if one’s shadow is removed (apathy syndrome/psychotic shut down)
@@shiningstar737 Yaldabaorth is quite literally a Cosmic threat considering he has the power to end humanity / grant powers to the protag and antag as well as creating the Metaverse, He exists because of humanity so id say he is indeed a god and a threat on the same level.
@@shiningstar737gods in p4 arent exactly living metaphors, according to a line marie says near the end she always existed as one god meant to fulfill the wishes of humanity and protect them, but the part of her that wanted to protect humans and the part that wanted to fulfill their desires contradicted and she split into Izanami, Yaldabaoth is created from humanities wish to be controlled but calling him a metaphor when he merged 2 realms seems unsermining
@@AmphotericcMikemarie saying she was a god meant to protect humans still implies she was brought about by there wishes, nyx predates humans and was even partly responsible for the creation of humans in the first place.
@@josephdiab3010 She doesnt really exist because humans wished for something tho, just wants to protect them and fulfill their wishes, Nyx is def a much more celestial being but Izanami is still its own thing
This is an interesting video. The P3 cast accepted Makoto's sacrifice and vowed to live their lives as best they can to ease his burden. Not only that, but they also know that he DOESN'T want to be saved. So if Elizabeth becomes P6's protagonist, then does that mean she's going to have to go up against SEES? Food for thought :0
Saving Makoto does not imply he comes back to life. Just that his soul can be freed from the burden of being the seal and finally be laid to rest.
@@Jomisari77ah good point. no idea why that escaped my mind ^^;
When Elizabeth told the story to Margaret, she gave a hint and said that if her powers isn't enough to accomplish her goals, she will go to the people that the boy did have a strong bond with and ask them for their help. So I doubt she will fight the s.e.e.s. members but instead will want their help on saving Makoto. We could see a return of the ogs if they plan on making Elizabeth a protagonist
I don’t think it’s that he DOESN’T want to be saved, it’s more like he just made peace with his fate because he knows his decision will keep his friends safe. I’m sure if Elizabeth can find a way to save him without basically ending the world, he would be happy with it
If we got baton passes between Strega members in P3R you bet that we’re fighting 4 persona users in P6 and could that be SEES? I don’t know maybe
I hope one day there is a persona Game where Nyx returns even more stronger and all previous wildcards gather together along with they’re peers… sounds like PQ3 lol
we truly need that. It'll feel like xenoblade 3 where rex and shulk came back.
The seal will probably break eventually
Its "persona time", the protagonists said as they personed all over the room
Nope
It'd be so funny to see a Teenage Makoto, Adult Yu, and Young Adult Renkira. Just like the oldest one of the group is youngest in body.
Fits in with the adjacent Jojo part being Stone Ocean
- Fem Protagonist
- Has massive ties to the 3rd protag
- Major goal is to save them from death, alongside of course saving the world
As well, she could probably be the one that deals the final blow, as Emporio takes a lot of design cues from the Velvet Room Custodians
- Golden Eyes and Light hair
- Blue Clothing Color Scheme
- Born from nothing
- Their ability manifests special locations and items that are beyond time and space
Holl up, let him cook
@@rugalbernstein5913Did you properly read the comment?
This makes me more hype than it should, please let Elizabeth be important in p6.
So will P6 also end with the death of the case save one who killed the gay black guy who ended the world
Ya know what, that just might work
dude, i'd LOVE some sort of persona game (probably a spinoff) where you play as elizabeth and you have to defeat that thing that makoto is protecting nyx from in fes. probably not any time in the near future because reload DID just come out but
I dont think they will because in canon Elizabeth fights Erebus every month to help out MC. So they cant make a game out of that concept but maybe something else?
Elizabeth already does fight it
1. Elizabeth wins against nyx
2. P3 mc life force saved but cannot return to real world, can only exist in between dreams and reality
3. Igor says he is getting too old and wants a successor to his craft
@@ambulance-kun5915Elizabeth can’t win against Nyx, she can only be sealed
one day 😩
Just as the real Messiah came back to us 3 days after his death on the cross, so too does this game's Messiah will return to us after 3 Persona mainline games.
And will return once again to the heavens just like what the real Messiah did
The high amount of hopium here is insane but I respect that lmao
If Elizabeth somehow becomes the MC and tries to free him, it will be the most epic case of "thirst" ever.
"A girl leaves her secure job and stable life in order to save the boy who took her V card, even if it risks breaking the seal that protects the world from its end"
I don't think it will happen sadly. But i would love to have some "news" regarding Elizabeth's journey in future games.
Having a little hint of Makoto being alive in Maruki distorded world in P5R would have been great for example
I hope so too
Huh, that’s such a good point,
Talk about a missed opportunity there.
Honestly, I'd be down to play a game dedicated to finding a way to save Makoto.
Door-Kun deserves better.
Imagine Persona 3 Reload DLC The Answer + Elizabeth Route
Would be fire
@@RokuDB According to leaks, P3 The Answer is a soon to be dlc!!!
DAMN! 😭🔥
I don't think that a Pixie spamming max damage megidolaons would make for very good game balance lol
Bro😭
Can you imagine having in persona 6 a special battle with Elizabeth of previous to last boss of P6 because you have a P3R, P4G and P5R saves?
While I think Elizabeth won't get the closure she is looking for (which is what I think is most likely), I'm still hoping we get to see her journey to the end and we save our boy, nay our god, Emo Jesus!
Imagine if in persona 6 the new velvet room attendant is makoto yuki but in a different body with no memories and his sidequest is you help him regain his memories and that elizabeth saved his soul from being a seal for eternity by sacrificing herself to free him
You know it be interesting if Elizabeth reborn herself (which isn’t the first time as the attendees are split from Philemon) to be human so that she can form bonds to save Makoto, but in it the reborn version comes to reject it by truly understanding the themes of the 3 games, rejecting others control over what you want, coming to understand who you really are and what it means to live. but also go against the core mechanics of social links, seeing them as a means to a end to get stronger and accomplish your goals, as Elizabeth is so focused on Makoto she limits her experience with others to form meaningful bonds. The final fight is the reincarnation vs Elizabeth’s echo’s resolve, getting her to understand and accept that there’s nothing you can do to save him, accepting that he is gone.
For the reborns persona it would be something that between two states and contemplation, so the hanged man would work for it, but all protagonist are the fool so it would be a version of them before that and to be a means to a end, a sacrifice. I propose Attis before their death in the mythology and that Elizabeth would be then the earth mother and slayer of betrayer Cybele of the lovers arcana for her love of Makoto, but reversed against her reincarnation, but also the priestess for holding divine knowledge
She will be rid of her Velvet Room powers, given the Fool arcana (makes sense, giving it all away for one's self satisfaction) but retained the access to coorindate with other Persona users across time to help her because freeing Makoto means going against the purest form of Nyx
No, she won't
i actually cried watching this, i was already "ok" with the idea of my boy being forever gone, but now that the possibilities of him returning are still on gives me hope and fear at the same time, idk maybe im being too corny but i just love Makoto so much, i want him back...
What if P6 was Elizabeth being the fool tarot and trying to save P3 protag and all of her social links are all playable characters from previous games aged up a couple of years bc of a small time jump. I would love that
Watching this video...eyes started filling with tears
Even when P3 protagonist did what he done to protect mankind, Elizabeth wanted to defy fate and save him
And the part when the Fool Card appeared before Elizabeth, thats when the tears started flowing
*My girl has started her quest to save a soul she loves, universe be damned*
How many stories and legends involved a brave person ventured through hell to save someone?
Kinda like Orpheus story, i could be wrong but its story is kinda similar in a way?
@@AverageStarryDragon
Yes
Orpheus and Izanagi journeyed to the underworld for their respective loved ones
I suspect that Persona 4 will get the P3R treatment in order to further explore truly dispatching Nyx.
If this series culminated in the rescuing Door-kun and defeating Nyx once and for all, it would be legendary.
Persona 6 would be a good time where all of series connected to prevent the greatest threat, and making the Nyx seal's gone broke will be a good starting point i think. I just love a story where Heroes from different/previous series defeating a big bad guy. Thats why i like Persona Q 😂
Man, i really need the continuation of P3's The Answer.
We all yearn for it. But we have to wait a little longer tho until the original writer of persona 3 gives the go signal
I do hope we see some continuation of Elizabeth’s journey. One of my very few criticisms or P5 story wise was that there was no explicit mention of her from what I can recall……also where is Margaret for that matter?
Very good points and Questions,
Now that i think about it, i guess the whole “Elizabeth leaving the Velvet Room” Plot-Point was made to also explain why Margaret was in P4 instead of her,
But we don’t really get anything like that in P5 do we? Lavenza/The Twins is just there without any real explanation as to what happened to Margaret, or even Theodore for that matter, like we got for Elizabeth in P4.
Never really thought that, I wonder what exactly happens that leads into Igor getting a new attendant each time?
@@johanstenfelt1206the velvet room attendees change for every guest visiting, basically I think they change to adjust to the guests circumstances, and all bring their own unique way of helping them through their journey, at least that’s what I think
After playing through her story in P4 arena, i was so huped when she drew the fool. Shes on her journey to save him, and shell see it through. Plus Minato would be PRIME Velvet Room material
I can see some other persona being the main protag in P6, and we’ll help elizabeth, we’ll get help from SEES then after that we’ll go to the phatom thieves and maybe even the group from P4. P6 could be a huge game with every single character from the past in it.
I’m calling it now: We’re either gonna get another P5 sequel bringing back the Investigation Team and Shadow Operatives for Elizabeth or she’s gonna return as a major character in Persona 6, albeit not as a Velvet Room attendant.
That shit would be more hyped than avengers assembling fr
Elizabeth is trully the greatest Velvet Room attendant
could you imagine makoto become next igor
I could imagine it. That guy literally has god as his ultimate persona, has two wild cards one of them the highest card a persona user with potential can obtain which is the universe card. Only two known people in this universe have that. Not to mention he had created a miracle that led to humanity's survival
There's no better replacement to Igor
Why I hanve a feeling that Jose's friend is Elizabeth
Me too
NGL i would much prefer an actual new Persona 6 and Elizabeth either getting a spinoff game or a side episode in Persona 6
Someone once said Elizabeth's story should be called *Persona 3: The Promise* to match or mirror The Answer and i like that
I don't think Elizabeth will ever be an MC, but I do believe we'll see her as another supporting character someday. They can't just abandon her journey to the background. There must be a time where we connect with her to either further her goal or complete it ourselves with her help.
I pray pray pray pray that i live long enough to see the conclusion of her and Aigis' journey to save his soul. I feel like we came close in persona 4 arena, but it was just a tease. With the P3 remake, im hoping it regains popularity enough that Atlus considers bringing her back.
Maybe that's why we got persona 3 reload? Mmmmh
That's actually odd tho. If they don't have plans on following up Elizabeth's journey, why would they put a lot of persona 3 Easter eggs in persona 5 and give us persona 3 reload then putting joker as a special boss in the answer dlc which doesn't have connections with the plot? Atlus is cooking something
Man I hope someday we get a persona that's kind of like Trails into Reverie where it has all the MC going around in their own story but they eventually meet up and fight for a common cause. Ofc I realize P3 Mc is still a door which hopefully he gets rescued soon and all the other protagonists will have drastic age differences so yeah it probably won't happen but it would be cool.
If you never played Trails into Reverie I gotta say you have to try it out, or at least the entire legend of heros saga starting with Trails in the Sky the other ones before don't necessarily count. Hey if you like Persona you'll definitely like that...most likely.
Nah it still fits because Reverie only had protags from the 2 most recent arcs leading routes. So Elizabeth being the C equivalent with a new party would work.
This is literally PQ2 lol
@@chadachi3970 it's pretty much a Persona Q or Arena type setup except it's a mainline game that affects the rest of the series.
@@joaocbcneto Unfortunately not gonna happen because Atlus consider the Q games as mainline and canon, yet they do literally nothing for the overall plot since nobody but maybe the Velvet room attendants remember any of the events that take place.
@@chadachi3970 I know, I'm just agreeing it would be cool.
Please do this that would be so cool. Please do this omg
Makoto is like Jesus. He died and on the 3rd game he got revived.
I'm highly doubt that Eli will be P6 mc, because if u understands her intentions meaning she planning to unseal the door inorder to save him. Albeit she claims to be foolish yet she's not moron enough to letting whatever behind that door out without preparing the consequences.
So what i hope for future P6 concept will be, i do hope that P6 MC's will be happens in continents other than japan(for more than 5 consecutives times).
If the source why Nyx came because human desires itself, then i think it would be logical for Persona MC's to "fix" those human desires around the globe by estabilishing Persona user that hopefully gaining another World arcana that helps countermeassure Nyx. And eventually give deeper meaning & concept since i don't think it would be that simple to treating World arcana as same level as Universe arcana.
So if indeed Elizabeth planned to be another Persona MC, then it most likely happened in the very last of Persona franchise where the settings are replicating the events of real jugdement day, like Emo Jesus descend back to earthwith the help of Elizabeth and lead humanity through judgement day . Appear identically to P3 but this time whole humanity gear up with their persona's & World arcana around the world to repel Nyx for years or maybe eons until come back once again (although they can't kill/erasing Nyx since its embodiment of death/end).
Elizabeth is such a strange creature I would love a story focused around her it would be amazing, seeing her take everything in the human world at face value and have everybody think she's a weirdo for asking weird request like wanting s bottle of pills to pop in exchange for a megidolan card or if you can find someone who happens to have a spare 9mm pistol on hand before the full moon so she can observe it
WE BRINGIN MAKOTO BACK BITCHES
DOOR GANG RISE UP
god damn. will i ever NOT CRY to persona 3? ...nah its gonna always happen
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It's an entertaining idea. Now imagine your party members are also other Velvet Room residents.
I think the result will be like Jojo part 6, make a new timeline which the P3 protagonist live but Elizabeth doesn’t exist in new timeline
Have her become the new seal 😮😮
Or they could simply release him from being a seal because humanity isn't wishing for demise anymore because of the people that promised they will change the world and make it a better place by giving happiness to the people
makes you wonder with how the last 3 Persona games clearly take place in a linear timeline how much the events of P4G and P5R have affected Elizabeth's journey. While i doubt she'd be the protagonist for P6, I could see her and whomever she has created the bonds with making a cameo similar to Chihiro's in P4. It'll be interesting to see if Atlus does decide to truly try and interconnect the stories of the living wild-card users in a main series game at some point, instead of limiting it to a fighting game.
This ongoing arc has fascinated me for years, and one other little nod to Elizabeth's strong feelings for the P3MC comes up in PQ. I forget the name of it, but there was a side-quest that involved taking Elizabeth and Margaret on an outing, and as part of it they go see a movie. The whole quest is mostly goofs, but it's offhandedly mentioned that - specifically during a movie about a woman who fell in love with a ghost - Elizabeth started crying.
I understand some think that this storyline undermines Persona 3's ending in some way, but I do hope we see Elizabeth's quest come to a conclusion one day!
I do hope someday we see an end to her story. Whether it be in a mainline game or a side game, I want to see where her journey takes her.
Based on how awesome Metaphor did, I think we are in for one hell of a good of a "Final Persona Game", that finally ties this 30 Year story together.
Yeah, no, Elizabeth definitely isnt gonna be a protag, because while her freeing Door-Kun would be nice, it would completely invalidate his own growth and journey.(It would also be him breaking his contract with Igor/Philemon, since accepting being freed by Elizabeth wouldn't be taking responsibility for his actions)
The accident that took his parents completely detached Minato(or Mikoto, depending on your preference) from the world, causing him to just drift aimlessly through life, to the point he had absolutely no qualms about embracing death(hence why he had no issues with the Evoker, since summoning Personas in 3 involves invoking death, and why a certain boy took residence inside him, giving him 2 Arcana, The Fool and Death). Over time though, instead of drifting through life, just waiting for death to finally claim him like it should have the day of the crash, he begins forming bonds, finding people he can actually care about to the point that instead of embracing death just to have things be over, he embraces death so that others can live: its also why the social links go a month(iirc) without him saying a peep to them about whats going to happen. He doesnt want that last month to be tainted for them, he wants them to be able to live happy lives: sure, his sacrifice in becoming the seal saves humanity, but Minato did it to save his friends, the closest thing he now has to family
Actually she’s not trying to revive him just put his soul to rest
As per the leaks, persona 6 will take place on a timeline where teens are about to graduate in highschool and young adults starting their college life. We will also have a female protag as the leaks says
Its similar to what happened to the S.E.E.S members after the events of persona 3 (dlc included). Atleast the going into college thing
Hell yeah. God I hope so.
I love seeing this cameo for persona three 😢❤
Aside from the fact we get to see all of the p3 to p5 cast grown up (not just p3), i really think a beautiful story can be written with Elizabeth being the focus, and connecting the entire series through Philemon guiding everyone (or being the enemy) woukd be awesome.
Its a shame though that it loiks like we may not get that, as Midori claims its going to be another High School experience, which leads me to believe it will be a whole new cast again
this makes me want it to be like SMT 4 Appoc in the sense that there's two teams of 4; you have P3, 4, 5 and 6 MC's in one team, and maybe the other team be that respective persona games' best friend or so. you never know, but just the thought of watching a battle with maybe Igor sense in Appoc you fight Steven as a way of testing everyone, that would be a true insperation of why i love the SMT/Persona series.
I think p6 MC should be Elizabeth. With her gaining the Fool card, the back story from the Arena series, and with the recent release of P3re, the set up is now prime to continue P3's story to a proper close. Many people has now and will eventually play P3 as now people are brought to speed in P3's lore. If it wasnt for P3re, many people would not understand the back story and any references Elizabeth makes if this goes in that direction. The only people who'll be able to follow the story are mostly those who played the original P3/P3fes/P3P. By then, when p6 comes out, most of those ps2 era gamers would be in their 40's and up.
Also the leaks about p6 having a female MC and is set in a time where young adults are going off to college while teens are about to graduate in high school sounds similar to what became of the S.E.E.S. after the events of persona 3
Man they could do so much with this concept. We know so little of Igor's world as it is. And its been mysterious for a long time now....Maybe its time to explore that domain. If not in Persona 6, than its own spin off with Liz in the drivers seat.....?
Persona 6 Could be Elizabeth saving Makoto so they can be together with their child Jose and everyone else.
It would be a cool Spin-Off were Elizabeth maybe teams up with Theodore and the previous Persona protagonists in a comic level battles against who knows what to free the P3 protagonist.
Imagine if we get 2 more persona games and elizabeth makes cameos for each of them each at different points in her journey, then persona 8 comes out and elizabeth is the main protagonist with every persona characters (persona 1-2, 4-7) and them being able to undo the seal of makoto, then makoto rejoins the group and everyone faces off against Nyx for a final all out battle. Since everyone is a powerful wildcard at the end of their stories, they would be able to aid Makoto push back Nyx for good (unlike what happened at the end of P3 where he is the last one standing).
that would make sense why they did reload
Persona 3 Reload: Episode Aigis, The Answer
Persona 6: The Promise
I feel if they save him, he should be in the velvet room as an attendant or there, standing by. Living there the adventure of igor as well
You imagine Makoto was freed and reborn as a velvet room people and is Jose? The kid from royal.
Maybe not main line game like persona 6, but a spin off game, because the main line game’s protagonist has to be a self insert(we should have an option to pick a Female or male)
I think maybe p7 since p6 is apparently still in highschool. But I could see maybe a sequel like the answer of Elizabeth being the villain. And Aigis being the mc.
A battle of ideals, the one who waits to save them. Vs the one who took action
I think what they mean by freeing him, I think they mean by giving him an afterlife. In that sense, I doubt Aigis or the P3 cast would have much of an issue doing that
Persona 6 is gonna be crazy man
Or what if P6 is Elizabeth having to deal with P1/2 shenanigans and it finally ties those games together with the P3/4/5 plotlines
Hypothetical it's could be either of them and Elizabeth still makes sense
I already saw someone comment this about all the wildcards coming back to stop erebus. I would take it one step further. In order to truly end the cycle they would all work together to seal away anything persona related. And make it just like our real world. But all the wildcards would die in doing this. The conpanions of each group would survive. Imo that would be a way to end the persona series if atlus ever wants to reboot it.
Also this wouldn't have to be persona 6 this could be for like the 8th or 9th game if we ever get to it.
You clearly have not paid attention to literally anything about Persona.
If Makoto, a wild card, can seal nyx easily by just himself in exchange of his life, the other wild cards can do the same BUT without them sacrificing their own lives since there's a lot of them now that they can share their own power without any consequences
@@theadmiral4157 He didn't seal Nyx easily. He fucking died doing so.
@@loserinasuit7880 well Mc seal A GOd in a mortal Body...and Mc still have few months to enjoy his daily life before passed away (at least not a instant dead)
ATLUS HOW MANY BONES DO YOU WANT?!?!?!
Honestly, this isn’t surprising to see this a lot😢
Hm, fascinating, I have been thinking about Elizabeth potentially being a MC of some kind of a Story of her own, be it a Game or otherwise,
Especially since that does seem to be the case that all of these moments are seemingly alluding to.
However, i never even considered the possibility of that said Story to be the Main Story for a Main Title Game with her as the overall MC of said Game,
I gotta say, having the MC for P6 be someone who pretty much were already established in a much more early title, rather than someone completely new like usual, does sound very interesting, but I have to wonder though, would they go for something like that?
Still, I guess that mostly depends on what Persona 6 is going to be about, speaking of which did we have any info on P6 already or do i remember wrong?
Regardless, I do hope we do get some further development on this Elizabeth’s Journey plot-line that seemed to be alluded to throughout the P4 Titles,
I mean, there’s no way that they’re just going to have a development like Elizabeth leaving the Velvet Room and then just leave us hanging, right? Especially considering that the whole “Elizabeth has left the Velvet Room” Plot-Point wasn’t something that, I think, even got alluded to in the Original Title where she got first introduced in, no that was something told to us through her Sister in the Next Main Title and has even been developed upon throughout the P4 Era of Games, it has been portrayed as a pretty serious thing too, i mean Margaret did straight up say that she did plan to bring Elizabeth back by force at some point,
So seriously, there’s no way that they can just develop a Plot-Point like that and then just have it not go anywhere or what, are we just supposed to think that Elizabeth is just having her own Journey behind the scenes somewhere or something?
Regardless of whether it’s through a Main Title or through her own Spin-off Title, I would really like to see how Elizabeth’s Story has gone since then.
Wow. Respect for Elizabeth. 💙
They better add the Fes expansion on P3 reload or I'll flip!!!!!!!
P3 mc is the goat imo.
Wonder if they somehow become lovers before they got separated.
I have a crackpot theory that this story is going to be in persona 5 arena instead. I wonder if theo is also searching away to save femc in an alt universe
Even if she does free him his body is no more all he can do now is rest in the sea of souls waiting to start again in the next cycle of life
If Elizabeth was the MC for 6, I would go nuts. Its literally everything I could ask for in a Partsona game: female protagonist, Elizabeth, seeing the power of a Velvet Room attendant, a continuation of the 3 story, a possible return to the system before Persona 3... It could be a truly remarkable game. Copium overloud is a thing 😅.
I want a velvet attendant being a wild card like elizabeth was in p4 arena
P6 would be lit like that 🔥🔥 🗿🗿
I guess the Answer dlc for persona 3 reload was announced and im hype for it
I doubt we'll see Elizabeth be the MC of P6, even though I WOULD be happy if she were if not the P6 MC then the MC of another Persona game. Elizabeth being a protagonist of an adventure has been set up a lot, as your video shows.
I think Elizabeth as a protagonist would be really fun. Her being able to summon multiple Personas is already a thing. Imagine Elizabeth recruiting Theo as her reluctant support character who helps her with things like navi, fusions, etc. I'd pay for a game just to have those two together.
Even if Elizabeth doesn't get her own game they could integrate her into being a large part of a Persona story. Such as the events of P6 end up necessitating Makoto, or something else that causes Elizabeth crossing paths with the party and they have to work together for a common purpose that includes Elizabeth's mission to bring Makoto back.
It will not be Elisabeth cause confidants would be messed up, but I can see clear as the day helping her most of the early game. Would be cool if they give us hints about this on Refantazio
2:50 is she talking about sho minazuki? Is he going to be a protagonist in the next persona game? I didn't play P4AU i don't even know who Sho is. He reminds me of Joker tho he loves saying "it's showtime"
I guess all of that started before the Answer.. Elizabeth got the Fool arcana and pass it down to Aigis.. thats why Aigis suddenly can summoned Orpheus..
No, this is after. Aigis gained the Fool arcana thanks to the butterfly that she touched (Philemon)
This happened two years after p3, in Persona 4 Arena. That spin off game is canon to the series
So persona6 would be elizabeth find away to help makoto?
3:42 whoaaaaa tease
So, Elizabeth *did* visit Makoto more than once, huh?
You all say Yu is a Giga Chad, but Makoto's "bedtime manners" made a Velvet Room attendant leave, just so she could get more.
Haven't you guys played persona 4 arena? She awakens to power of the Wild Card too, even uses Thanatos.
Have you watched the video?
???? She always could use multiple personas
P6 will be the grand finale, with the protagonist finally saving the world once and for all, and Door-kun will be saved without losing the meaning of P3.
The savior who met a fate worse than death, to only be able to seal humanity's desire while accepting that it's his fate, we came from that, to a dude who took down 3 fake gods, changed everyone's hearts, without a single sacrificial (Akechi is not dead, I cope). I am hyping for whatever P6 might me, they're foreshadowing something big, and Makoto will be revived, cause that's what my copium devil says to me every night since I finished P3. IN ELIZABETH WE TRUST.
Either ATLUS really enjoys revisiting Elizabeth's journey to save Makoto in multiple games... or maaaaaybe they're setting something up? It can be a spin off; where her dream finally comes true?
Let him cook!
I don't think P6 will be a sequel for various reasons. First of all, with the ever-increasing popularity of the saga, it would be a weird move to make your main game dependent on another "less popular" game, and considering 3, 4, and 5 are very closely tied, I'd expect the same from 6. My main reason is that I think P4A plot, thus including Elizabeth trying to free P3MC, was supposedly going to work as an epilogue for P5, which, by the early build leaks, seemed to be more related to the older titles than a standalone one. So when P5 got scrapped and remade, this bigger storyline might have been scrapped (for example, Sho is hinted to have a "journey" similar to yours in the game, but we never hear of him ever again, and the scrapped female MC of the early P5 is very similar to Sho, so I believe it got scrapped). Also, because P4A was co-developed with Arc sys maybe there is some legal stuff going on or the writers of the game aren't part of Atlus, but that's more far-fetched.
I wanna save the door ):