Amazing theory. But I instead believe her nexus event was she was told she was adopted. So this left no feeling of rage, unfairness and wanting to get revenge but she was rather a happy, chill person who wanted to be a Valkyrie (and never desired a throne)
It is and isn't a nexus event. HWR paved the way for it to happen, so it isn't a nexus event as it supposed to happen. However, from TVA's point of view it was a nexus event as they didn't knew it was supposed to happen. Same apllies for Loki escaping with Tesseract.
@WPAppsAndGames I understand what you mean but I believe you're confusing what HWR wants with what the sacred timeline consists of. Anything that goes against what happens in the sacred timeline is called a nexus event. Whatever HWR wants to happen (as in whatever road he paved) has nothing to do with that
@@bryansantiago5523actually the sacred timeline is based on what he who remains wants to happen, the whole point of him creating the sacred timeline was to avoid any timeline that creates a variant of himself, small details wouldn't change anything but any change that leads to a different outcome would create a branch
Wow good theory too but she is the god of mischief doesn't matter she has feeling of rage or not she will eventually make chaos maybe because thor will become king
But Renslayer seemed to be enjoying that moment though. She's saying "I don't remember" but by her smirk you can tell she's actually saying "you are not worth to be remembered, you're not really that important". It's the classic "for me it was just Tuesday"
Sylvie was good. That was her Nexus point. When, as a child in season 1, she aspired to be a hero like the Valkyrie. Listen to her while she's playing with her toys. He Who Remains is why Loki was a villain not because Loki wanted to be. The TVA quickly culled any version of Loki that tried to be good. Where He Who Remains interfered with Sylvie was when he didn't help the TVA find her. Keep in mind, that he fed them information on how to shape the sacred timeline through the timekeeper robots. He hid Sylvie from them, shaping her into who he wanted her to be by having the TVA constantly disrupting her any time she tries to settle. Thus ,paving the way for her.
@@entertainmentjunkie it's right there in the show. Why would it need to be confirmed. When Loki was having his eyes opened, he was told of his purpose on the Sacred timeline. He was made to be a villain who was fated to lose ag everything he did. His entire purpose was to help forge the Avengers into the team that would eventually defeat Thanos. He Who Remained had the TVA cull every other outcome. There are two main reasons a Loki variant was pruned. Either they were good and not a villain, or they were a successful villain. Considering Sylvie was a child and hadn't been tested yet, it is unreasonable to claim she was being pruned for being a successful villain. That leaves the reason supported by her scene, that her hero worship of the Valkarie was leading her away from villainy.
I thought her nexus event was deciding to become a valkyrie, meaning that she would never try to take the throne and never get thor banish and then never attack earth and get the avengers to form.
So she played?? I think the main point was that she was playing alone- where was Thor?? Maybe the nexus event was that she didn't have an adopted brother to resent...or it could just be that she's a girl, the ONLY girl Loki- lol the timeline collapsed cos of gender pronouns😂😉
I’ve seen a lot of theories about the Valkyries but I like to think it was something a lot less impactful then that. I believe Sylvie’s Nexus Event was, simply, choosing a different toy to play with, or even playing with it in the wrong manner. I mean, think about it. The sacred timeline is only one string. That leaves absolutely 0 room for interpretation. Something as minor as tilting something a different way would be an abberation. In my opinion, it’d make it all the more interesting, because that means Sylvie was upended from her life and threatened with oblivion for simply, playing. A rudimentary, careless thing- and the TVA was willing to damn her for it. Shows how ruthless they stuck to their dogma. Even if that isn’t the case, I think I’ll keep it as my headcanon. That it all started because Sylvie played “wrong”.
I think her nexus event was playing a ‘saving Asgard’ instead of seeking to destroy it or other species. She was also told she was adopted, which left no feelings of pent up rage between her and her parents.
Her nexus event is her playing the Monster and the hero toy. She just discovered that hero is cool and the villain/antagonist is bad hate by everyone. Remember every Loki has an Impostor thinging (forgot about it). She just want to fit in into Asgard and so that would make her story diverge to the timeline/rule for every Loki. It got supported by the fact She has sense of JUSTICE and empathy to others.
Sylvie: What was my Nexus event? Ravonna: I don't remember [Kang to Miss Minutes] "Pull up Protocol 42" It does make sense, it was just He Who Remains plan to get both Lokis to work together
Loki learns he was always meant to be a villain and inevitably help create Avengers. Sylvie's play seemed to strongly hint at her having decided on becoming someone who would fit on Avengers, rather than the villain causing it to be made. Also where Loki's seem obsessed with ruling and betrayal, Sylvie's goal to liberate the timelines seem to be quite heroic.
Wrong, her nexus event was her having empathy and aspiring to become a hero, her simply being a girl would have meant she would have been taken away as a newborn.
Wrong since she has been told she was a frost giant child before that and she wasn't taken away at that moment. So her having empathie is the result of her birth as a girl loki and the experience of the irregular life she live until it form a branch since she was living like the main loki until she cross the final line like our variant loki did in the apocalypse when fall in love with (her/himself🤔)
That was never said in the show, a nexus event is anything that deviates from the timeline that creates he who remains, so a small detail like silvie being a girl wouldn't do that, but something like her deciding she won't become a villain would
In my opinion I think what her Nexus event was gonna be was that she was gonna be the hero. Like she decided to be on when she was a child while playing with her toys. I think she wanted to be one and that wasn't the path set for a Loki. They are meant to be the villain to elevate others and lose. But she was unknowingly going against that
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!🎉 🎉🎉 Sylvi was so to speak the perfect Loki the Yen of the story. The only possible answer of a Nexus Event for her was Odin and fry Fryya telling her she was adopted, and accepting it, but also making the decision to become a Valkyrie once she was old enough too. Those decisions would have made her a heroine which all Loki’s are not. Those hints were mentioned in the show. Loki was Sylvi’s Yang and sort of polar opposite. That is why Kang needed them and only these particular two Loki of all the Loke. But he made two mistake. He kidnapped Sylvi who in essence was the heroine Loki variant, which as we all knew are near impossible to catch once they escape. Two the TVA and Kang had pruned so many Loki’s but there is a consequence for that action. For every Loki pruned there being and power is distributed to the rest of the Loki’s in the Multiverse. So by the time we see Loki now his and Sylvi’s power has has been increased by the power of (X Loki’s pruned and destroyed at the end of time by the beast.) What I am talking about is a quantum mechanical physics rule that was nicely demonstrated in the movie “The One” starring Jackie Chan. Watch it for the the best explanation. But the principle of physics law in that movie is exactly what happened here to Loki. That is why he was able to create the world tree. Sylvi for some reason was not a true Loki or she never realized the power increase.
Killing The One who Remains was always going to be Silvies nexus events. He just couldn't stop it. Nexus events create timelines that can't easily be weaved back into the "preferred" timeline. The One who Remains decides which is preferred. He showed Loki at the end he was editing each nexus choice and multiples of choices to get to his preferred one. Loki spent decades trying to edit without purging just to try to save the Loom destruction nexus and couldn't, this shows The One who Remains took the easier way of purging variants to prevent a dead end to his own timeline. It's always been about him, his sacred selfish timeline at the expense of everyone else. Whatever Silvie did really didn't matter because any choices she made where going to lead her to kill him. Her just being born would inevitably have led to his death. Every version of her was most likely variant to his timeline. His last option was to use Loki to try and stop Sylvie and even he couldn't see if it would work untill he was killed because you can never see past your own death and come back to rewrite the timeline. Silvie was his destiny. All her choices would be his nexus events, he just kept editing them until her path crossed Loki to meet at his desk to the fatal stab. He even laid out the final options to them to see if he could pull a last con to survive but if one version of him did not get killed, that version would have already weaved on the timeline that wasn't destroyed and Loki wouldn't have had to try fix it.
If you remember the special pad that Loki used at the end was The One who Remains pad. It alone allowed a further reach along the timelines than other pads.
Also, he even tried to reboot his own timeline with the Ai clock delivering the TVA handbook to a variant of his younger self to create an entirely different sacred timeline he might rule yet again, or rather a variant of him anyway
What's funny is he had 2 variant Loki at his side at his death. One there to try and save him and the other to kill him. Those two alone had the abilities to get there, no one else. Not any other Loki, not ant other Kang, not any other anyone.
even Classic Loki doesn't remember to have a nexus event, he was feeling lonely and then taken out by TVA. so... having a nexus event is NOT always a criteria for taking out by TVA, at least a Loki variant, but it is HWR's sacred path to make sure that a or two Loki reach that castle and kill / free him from there. Classic Loki distracted that erasing snake, while Loki and Sylvi escaped from being erased, again Loki and Sylvi hold each other's hand, caused nexus event, saved from that destroying planet, TVA able to see them and recaptured both of them and finally both of them reached that castle to kill / free HWR. it wouldn't possible by Loki alone, so Sylvi was arrested by TVA to fulfill the whole path, as Loki alone able to reach there.
the way i see it, she didn't have a nexus event. anybody notice that it was only variants of Loki that was sent to that void wit alyeth. He Who Remains knew a version of Loki would be the one to take his thrown but i dont think he knew which one. he even said that in season 1 to Loki and Sylvie in the citadel . so he took all of them and when they didn't prove themselves to be the one they were left to be alyethes dinner
In my opinion Renslayer says she doesn't remember, because there was no Nexus event. It was just an arbitrary decision of He Who Remains to maintain the "MCU" timeline as the Sacred one. When Sylvie was captured, the TVA was just pruning every other timeline. The only question is why he just pruned all the other Loki's variants but not her. Why bring her to the TVA?Maybe she was part of his plan since that very moment. 🤔
That or the fact that her parents told her she was adopted as a child and therefore never felt the need or resentment to take down Thor. If that doesn’t happen, no Avengers, Nexus event.
I thought that it was the fact she was a girl tbf. Lokis are shapeshifting masters, maybe something to do with not being a boy. Cuz none of the other Lokis were boys.
Her nexus event is that she born a loki but isn’t interested in becoming a Loki instead she chose to become a war maiden Valkyrie..and you guys know loki being a loki is bound to be a failure.. being a Valkyrie Sylvie will die in battle thus enter Valhalla which is not scripted in kang’s sacred timeline..so
U finally said the right thing that Loki over smarted HWR. Others are just thinking that HWR wanted this way but we clearly know that HWR actually suggested Loki other options like sacrificing love by killing her or other way. But what Loki did was even greater.
Her nexus event was that her parents told her that she was adopted and that took away her glorious purpose because she wasn’t going to be angry at her family for not telling her and it took away her great purpose. On Lamentis 1 she said to Loki that she knew that she was adopted. Unfortunately that wasn’t her fault but for the timeline to remain stable they had to take her and prune her because she knew. She wouldn’t have wanted revenge on Thor and Odin if that hadn’t happened
That makes sense because our Loki wouldn't likely had either because they said everything the Avengers did was supposed to happen only Steve and Tony wouldn't have had to have gone back to the 1970s Jersey base if Loki hadn't taken the tesseract. They needed Loki that still had that drive yet hadn't found himself yet like the one who went after Thanos for Thor and the rest of the universe, so that was used as a guide for them taking him.
ya i agree with your whole idea, except, Loki DID NOT OUTSMART HIM. He wanted LOKI to become the god of story. He who remains acknowledged loki's time slip ability, so he paved that path for him to get that ability(as well as emotional investment). he did not give him his tech to take his place, he gave him an ability he did not have(and was probably too affraid to give himself the ability, because he's affraid of variants)
While most of this is valid sounding admittedly, Kang would not have directly told Renslayer anything, Renslayer lost her memories of working with Kang pre the events of the show, so Sylvie would have to have been hunted after that point
Look let's get to the crux of it, the TVA is based on preserving the Sacred and one true timeline, that means anything that even sneezes the wrong way that's expected of the Sacred Timeline is a nexus event and creates a branch? Her very conception is the nexus event, I'll expand, it has in no way to do with Sylvie being a female because some people will come for me at that :P A Nexus event as defined by Ms Minutes is" every now and then an individual and their pesky free will can interrupt that timeline with their actions." so technically on the genetic level Odin and Freya just not being in the mood that night or got frisky the night before caused a completely different versions of Loki.
I mean...to begin in the main timeline she's not the godess of mischief...in a dialogue she said like me being born godess of mischief, once that created a branch big enough, the tva noticed and took her...I think so...because in the sacred timeline there's no Sylvie in Asgard
Sylvie didn't have any nexus event, because HWR simply gave the TVA some bs reason why she had to be arrested, so that she can escape and eventually meet up with Loki centuries later and replace HWR.
It’s her being a girl, literally tho. If the TVA prevents the multiverse from becoming a thing, they stop any little deviation from happening. So a big deviation, like a gendered swap Loki, couldn’t be possible, but where Loki is a shapeshifter, if chose to make that his default form it’d be a deviation. Same reason Croc Loki is him being a crocodile & Boastful Loki is him being black. The others have actually have different actions like Kid Loki, President Loki, and Old/Og Loki.
The TVA doesn't prevent the multiverse, it prevents any universe from deviating from the timeline that creates he who remains instead of any other variant of him, so small details like silvie being a girl dom't change the outcome of her timeline but her deciding not to become a villain does
It's actually her wanting to become a valkyrie. If it were her gender then they'd have acted sooner, like at her birth. It was her deciding not to be the god of miscief who desired the throne but instead a hero who would protect her people that was her nexus event. There are multiple timelines on the sacred timeline, they just only allow those that create he who remains or no rival kangs. Her becoming a valkyrie would prevent thor from being banished to earth and later the creation of the avengers, both huge events in the timeline.
@@charlestownsend9280 it also creates the situations where thor survives ragnarok and where thanos gets the space stone, which are also very important events
Everyone saying Sylvie played with toys and wanted to be a hero. She was a kid! Don't you think our loki played with toys as a kid? Maybe loki played being a king, but thats what kids do pretend. Its clear He Who Remains ordered Ravonna to take her fir hus plan. HWR says in s1 ep 6 that he's gone rheough thousands of outcomes meaning hes tried different things in order to get Loki to take the throne of tva.
Loki's path on the main timeline had him being jealous of Thor for many years and wanting the throne. Sylvie didn't have the jealousy, and was hoping to become a Valkyrie. That's what caused her timeline to diverge
The show runners said there probably will be a season 3. Not to mention Loki is Disney's top performing show, meaning they're very unlikely to end it given they're insatiable hunger for money. It's insane how many of you constantly lie about everything.
People don't make nexus events. Nexus events happen to them. Avengers going through time dropped the space stone on Loki. It's always a time travel thing.
He didn't outsmart Kang. It was Kangs plan all along to guide Loki to reach his ultimate potential & be able to control the timelines. Remember all he wanted to do was die / retire. When Loki took the reins he did.
This was my belief too. Also, the TVA took Sylvie with them and nurtured her instead of pruning her, all plans by HWR. The idea that's being thrown around that her nexus event was her getting the idea of being a heroic Valkyrie isn't very likely to me because even our Loki wanted to be a hero when he was young but failed to do it the way Odin wanted. It has to be Kang's wish that took her away.
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Amazing theory. But I instead believe her nexus event was she was told she was adopted. So this left no feeling of rage, unfairness and wanting to get revenge but she was rather a happy, chill person who wanted to be a Valkyrie (and never desired a throne)
It is and isn't a nexus event. HWR paved the way for it to happen, so it isn't a nexus event as it supposed to happen. However, from TVA's point of view it was a nexus event as they didn't knew it was supposed to happen. Same apllies for Loki escaping with Tesseract.
@WPAppsAndGames I understand what you mean but I believe you're confusing what HWR wants with what the sacred timeline consists of. Anything that goes against what happens in the sacred timeline is called a nexus event. Whatever HWR wants to happen (as in whatever road he paved) has nothing to do with that
@@bryansantiago5523actually the sacred timeline is based on what he who remains wants to happen, the whole point of him creating the sacred timeline was to avoid any timeline that creates a variant of himself, small details wouldn't change anything but any change that leads to a different outcome would create a branch
Before Thor 4, I wished Natalie Portman's Thor was a variant from Sylvie's timeline! They would have made great sisters to each other!
Wow good theory too but she is the god of mischief doesn't matter she has feeling of rage or not she will eventually make chaos maybe because thor will become king
Her nexus event was while she was playing with Valkyrie toys, she dreamed of becoming one instead of staying as a goddess of Mischief.
Yeah, she might have been told she was adopted and she could have been good. Something a Loki shouldn't be, according to HWR.
@@lucabestea6844 Fair point. Honestly, there's probably a hundred different reasons, lol
Bro she was just playing when we were kid we just play with toys
@@caske77then why did the portal open up behind her immediately after she said she wanted to be a valkyrie
@caske77 she showed interest in being a good guy. That's not what a loki is so they tried to prune her.
You do remember that Ms.Minutes erased all of the TVAs memories so it is totally possible that she really doesn't know Sylvie's nexus event
So it means she arrested her before they had their minds wiped. That much is clear for me now, at least.
Yeah now I know why renslayer don't remember
But Renslayer seemed to be enjoying that moment though. She's saying "I don't remember" but by her smirk you can tell she's actually saying "you are not worth to be remembered, you're not really that important". It's the classic "for me it was just Tuesday"
Renslayer remembers capturing Sylvie. So no, her memory of Sylvie was not erased
O she KNOWS! Look at that smirk/smile she did. Bitch knows she was just being an ass and refused to tell sylvie. Plus the way she said it too
her nexus event was when she wanted to became a hero instead of the pupose of all LOKI which is to be a villian.
Sylvie was good. That was her Nexus point. When, as a child in season 1, she aspired to be a hero like the Valkyrie. Listen to her while she's playing with her toys.
He Who Remains is why Loki was a villain not because Loki wanted to be. The TVA quickly culled any version of Loki that tried to be good.
Where He Who Remains interfered with Sylvie was when he didn't help the TVA find her. Keep in mind, that he fed them information on how to shape the sacred timeline through the timekeeper robots. He hid Sylvie from them, shaping her into who he wanted her to be by having the TVA constantly disrupting her any time she tries to settle. Thus ,paving the way for her.
That’s a theory it’s not confirmed
@@entertainmentjunkie yeah, but it makes a shit ton of sense.
@@entertainmentjunkie it's right there in the show. Why would it need to be confirmed. When Loki was having his eyes opened, he was told of his purpose on the Sacred timeline. He was made to be a villain who was fated to lose ag everything he did. His entire purpose was to help forge the Avengers into the team that would eventually defeat Thanos. He Who Remained had the TVA cull every other outcome. There are two main reasons a Loki variant was pruned. Either they were good and not a villain, or they were a successful villain.
Considering Sylvie was a child and hadn't been tested yet, it is unreasonable to claim she was being pruned for being a successful villain. That leaves the reason supported by her scene, that her hero worship of the Valkarie was leading her away from villainy.
I thought her nexus event was deciding to become a valkyrie, meaning that she would never try to take the throne and never get thor banish and then never attack earth and get the avengers to form.
Not really
@caske77 You don't really have a point to debate this, do you? Just going around saying people are wrong ...
Nope thts a theory
@@caske77sorry Bud but your theory is incorrect.
I forgot how cute sylvie s1 with the blanket
Yeah i hate how they made her in season 2 even as a character
I am sure they answered that in season 1. Her Nexus event was when she played with her dolls and she played as the hero.
Nope they didn’t. Thats a theory
So she played?? I think the main point was that she was playing alone- where was Thor?? Maybe the nexus event was that she didn't have an adopted brother to resent...or it could just be that she's a girl, the ONLY girl Loki- lol the timeline collapsed cos of gender pronouns😂😉
I’ve seen a lot of theories about the Valkyries but I like to think it was something a lot less impactful then that. I believe Sylvie’s Nexus Event was, simply, choosing a different toy to play with, or even playing with it in the wrong manner.
I mean, think about it. The sacred timeline is only one string. That leaves absolutely 0 room for interpretation. Something as minor as tilting something a different way would be an abberation. In my opinion, it’d make it all the more interesting, because that means Sylvie was upended from her life and threatened with oblivion for simply, playing. A rudimentary, careless thing- and the TVA was willing to damn her for it. Shows how ruthless they stuck to their dogma. Even if that isn’t the case, I think I’ll keep it as my headcanon. That it all started because Sylvie played “wrong”.
Loki having a throne was HWR plan too to have someone replace him so he can be set free from the loop he made.
That's what I think also.
HWR is dead, replaced by loki
If Loki take over TVA from the time the loom was destroyed.
Then WHEN did Sylvie killed HWR?
You mean so he can spend time in jail for sexual assault. Be honest
Letting Loki live till the END was her Nexus event. Thnaks. On porblem.
That's why they let avengers go to time travel so loki from 2012 can make his nexus event there
Ikr
"That's how caske always makes amazing theories"
Thank you bro 😂😂
Bur TVA employees would have doubted on renslayer because she is like trying to arrest an innocent
No because renslayer said there is a nexus event by seeing the tempad but she didn't show anyone
Her nexus event was being born. There is only one sacred time line, with only one Loki.
I think her nexus event was playing a ‘saving Asgard’ instead of seeking to destroy it or other species. She was also told she was adopted, which left no feelings of pent up rage between her and her parents.
The god of stories, BRUH💀
She decided she didn't want to be Loki anymore she wanted to be Sylvie
You fool... Loki is not oversmart...That's a part of The he who remains plan...😂❤
Keep it up buddy 🎉 you're really best
Her nexus event is her playing the Monster and the hero toy. She just discovered that hero is cool and the villain/antagonist is bad hate by everyone.
Remember every Loki has an Impostor thinging (forgot about it). She just want to fit in into Asgard and so that would make her story diverge to the timeline/rule for every Loki.
It got supported by the fact She has sense of JUSTICE and empathy to others.
Sylvie's nexus event was her being good and wanting to be a hero when all a loki can be is a villain and alone
Loki didn't outsmart He who remains "Reincarnation baby" as Kang said If not him, then Loki would take his spot as the next He who remains.
Sylvie was just a pawn to push loki into hard choices and become who he was at the end of the series...
Sylvie: What was my Nexus event?
Ravonna: I don't remember
[Kang to Miss Minutes]
"Pull up Protocol 42"
It does make sense, it was just He Who Remains plan to get both Lokis to work together
Loki learns he was always meant to be a villain and inevitably help create Avengers. Sylvie's play seemed to strongly hint at her having decided on becoming someone who would fit on Avengers, rather than the villain causing it to be made.
Also where Loki's seem obsessed with ruling and betrayal, Sylvie's goal to liberate the timelines seem to be quite heroic.
Her nexus event was her wish to join valkyrie which is shown by her playing with the toys
Her nexus event is getting a job in MacDonalds😂❤
Glorious purpose
It is said in the s1 that her nexu event is that she was Born a girl and her presence was only more unstable as she grow up
Wrong, her nexus event was her having empathy and aspiring to become a hero, her simply being a girl would have meant she would have been taken away as a newborn.
Wrong since she has been told she was a frost giant child before that and she wasn't taken away at that moment.
So her having empathie is the result of her birth as a girl loki and the experience of the irregular life she live until it form a branch since she was living like the main loki until she cross the final line like our variant loki did in the apocalypse when fall in love with (her/himself🤔)
That was never said in the show, a nexus event is anything that deviates from the timeline that creates he who remains, so a small detail like silvie being a girl wouldn't do that, but something like her deciding she won't become a villain would
@@xfakexaxon6216 Nexus event is anything that deviates from the sacred timeline.. like peggy as captain america, sylvie.
@@javedchiku re-read my comment
In my opinion I think what her Nexus event was gonna be was that she was gonna be the hero. Like she decided to be on when she was a child while playing with her toys. I think she wanted to be one and that wasn't the path set for a Loki. They are meant to be the villain to elevate others and lose. But she was unknowingly going against that
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!🎉 🎉🎉 Sylvi was so to speak the perfect Loki the Yen of the story. The only possible answer of a Nexus Event for her was Odin and fry Fryya telling her she was adopted, and accepting it, but also making the decision to become a Valkyrie once she was old enough too. Those decisions would have made her a heroine which all Loki’s are not. Those hints were mentioned in the show.
Loki was Sylvi’s Yang and sort of polar opposite. That is why Kang needed them and only these particular two Loki of all the Loke.
But he made two mistake. He kidnapped Sylvi who in essence was the heroine Loki variant, which as we all knew are near impossible to catch once they escape. Two the TVA and Kang had pruned so many Loki’s but there is a consequence for that action. For every Loki pruned there being and power is distributed to the rest of the Loki’s in the Multiverse. So by the time we see Loki now his and Sylvi’s power has has been increased by the power of (X Loki’s pruned and destroyed at the end of time by the beast.)
What I am talking about is a quantum mechanical physics rule that was nicely demonstrated in the movie “The One” starring Jackie Chan. Watch it for the the best explanation. But the principle of physics law in that movie is exactly what happened here to Loki. That is why he was able to create the world tree. Sylvi for some reason was not a true Loki or she never realized the power increase.
Killing The One who Remains was always going to be Silvies nexus events. He just couldn't stop it.
Nexus events create timelines that can't easily be weaved back into the "preferred" timeline. The One who Remains decides which is preferred. He showed Loki at the end he was editing each nexus choice and multiples of choices to get to his preferred one. Loki spent decades trying to edit without purging just to try to save the Loom destruction nexus and couldn't, this shows The One who Remains took the easier way of purging variants to prevent a dead end to his own timeline. It's always been about him, his sacred selfish timeline at the expense of everyone else. Whatever Silvie did really didn't matter because any choices she made where going to lead her to kill him. Her just being born would inevitably have led to his death. Every version of her was most likely variant to his timeline. His last option was to use Loki to try and stop Sylvie and even he couldn't see if it would work untill he was killed because you can never see past your own death and come back to rewrite the timeline. Silvie was his destiny. All her choices would be his nexus events, he just kept editing them until her path crossed Loki to meet at his desk to the fatal stab. He even laid out the final options to them to see if he could pull a last con to survive but if one version of him did not get killed, that version would have already weaved on the timeline that wasn't destroyed and Loki wouldn't have had to try fix it.
If you remember the special pad that Loki used at the end was The One who Remains pad. It alone allowed a further reach along the timelines than other pads.
Also, he even tried to reboot his own timeline with the Ai clock delivering the TVA handbook to a variant of his younger self to create an entirely different sacred timeline he might rule yet again, or rather a variant of him anyway
He probably thought if he could teach himself enough at a younger age he could start sooner to work out the Silvie problem
What's funny is he had 2 variant Loki at his side at his death. One there to try and save him and the other to kill him. Those two alone had the abilities to get there, no one else. Not any other Loki, not ant other Kang, not any other anyone.
Silvie was not meant to have a life in any version of his timeline which made her determined to kill him no matter what choices she made.
even Classic Loki doesn't remember to have a nexus event, he was feeling lonely and then taken out by TVA. so... having a nexus event is NOT always a criteria for taking out by TVA, at least a Loki variant, but it is HWR's sacred path to make sure that a or two Loki reach that castle and kill / free him from there. Classic Loki distracted that erasing snake, while Loki and Sylvi escaped from being erased, again Loki and Sylvi hold each other's hand, caused nexus event, saved from that destroying planet, TVA able to see them and recaptured both of them and finally both of them reached that castle to kill / free HWR. it wouldn't possible by Loki alone, so Sylvi was arrested by TVA to fulfill the whole path, as Loki alone able to reach there.
the way i see it, she didn't have a nexus event. anybody notice that it was only variants of Loki that was sent to that void wit alyeth. He Who Remains knew a version of Loki would be the one to take his thrown but i dont think he knew which one. he even said that in season 1 to Loki and Sylvie in the citadel . so he took all of them and when they didn't prove themselves to be the one they were left to be alyethes dinner
She probably doesn't have one. He needs someone to get Loki to care enough to place her above himself.
No. He Who Remains’ plan was not to leave the TVA to the Lokis, his plan always was to have the loom reset to the sacred time line.
In my opinion Renslayer says she doesn't remember, because there was no Nexus event. It was just an arbitrary decision of He Who Remains to maintain the "MCU" timeline as the Sacred one. When Sylvie was captured, the TVA was just pruning every other timeline. The only question is why he just pruned all the other Loki's variants but not her. Why bring her to the TVA?Maybe she was part of his plan since that very moment. 🤔
That or the fact that her parents told her she was adopted as a child and therefore never felt the need or resentment to take down Thor. If that doesn’t happen, no Avengers, Nexus event.
I thought that it was the fact she was a girl tbf. Lokis are shapeshifting masters, maybe something to do with not being a boy. Cuz none of the other Lokis were boys.
You are putting more thought into a show than the people who made the show
The feeling of rage quit ultimately is what will become of whoever that remains
Her nexus event is that she born a loki but isn’t interested in becoming a Loki instead she chose to become a war maiden Valkyrie..and you guys know loki being a loki is bound to be a failure.. being a Valkyrie Sylvie will die in battle thus enter Valhalla which is not scripted in kang’s sacred timeline..so
She is the Nexus event!
U finally said the right thing that Loki over smarted HWR. Others are just thinking that HWR wanted this way but we clearly know that HWR actually suggested Loki other options like sacrificing love by killing her or other way. But what Loki did was even greater.
I used to think that maybe she played with a wrong toy😂
Nahh HWR didn't expected sylvie will come with loki to meet him. Even he said that himself
Her nexus event was that her parents told her that she was adopted and that took away her glorious purpose because she wasn’t going to be angry at her family for not telling her and it took away her great purpose. On Lamentis 1 she said to Loki that she knew that she was adopted. Unfortunately that wasn’t her fault but for the timeline to remain stable they had to take her and prune her because she knew. She wouldn’t have wanted revenge on Thor and Odin if that hadn’t happened
Then it should be her parents that the TVA will prune if the revelation regarding her adoption is the cause of her nexus event
@@user-og4pz9zv1d She would have had to been taken away anyway because she knew. It took away her glorious purpose
There should be a Season 3. I wanna hear her Nexus event and how the TVA can get Loki out of that time tree if he can get out…
Her Nexus Event was killing HWR
Her nexus event was her mom told her she was adopted, that never happened to our loki
He who remains forgot that he is a god
I always thought sylvie nexus even was in the making of destroying tva! Since they already knew they wanted to capture it!
That makes sense because our Loki wouldn't likely had either because they said everything the Avengers did was supposed to happen only Steve and Tony wouldn't have had to have gone back to the 1970s Jersey base if Loki hadn't taken the tesseract. They needed Loki that still had that drive yet hadn't found himself yet like the one who went after Thanos for Thor and the rest of the universe, so that was used as a guide for them taking him.
ya i agree with your whole idea, except, Loki DID NOT OUTSMART HIM. He wanted LOKI to become the god of story. He who remains acknowledged loki's time slip ability, so he paved that path for him to get that ability(as well as emotional investment). he did not give him his tech to take his place, he gave him an ability he did not have(and was probably too affraid to give himself the ability, because he's affraid of variants)
Sylvies nexus event was that , she was born female , lol watch season 1 again 😊
And he erased her memory so she didn't remember the Nexus event
I think having no nexus event is HER Nexus event!!
erin martin tweeted that wasn’t the end of her story so maybe she’s getting a series
Oversmarted 🥶
I agree it looks like there will be no season 3 but i don't think it's been cancelled or renewed yet so we really don't know.
Her Nexus event was shown inside the show itself
Killing Kang Varient in Season 1
That theory must be the truth
I agree
There is no nexus event, it was kangs plan all along. He paved the road
Her nexus event was created by He Who Remains.
The fact that she was born female is what makes her a variant
Her nexus event was that odin and freya told her she was adoptet but did not become mad about it.
Was told in the last episode of season 2
Her nexus event was literally just existing
While most of this is valid sounding admittedly, Kang would not have directly told Renslayer anything, Renslayer lost her memories of working with Kang pre the events of the show, so Sylvie would have to have been hunted after that point
Look let's get to the crux of it, the TVA is based on preserving the Sacred and one true timeline, that means anything that even sneezes the wrong way that's expected of the Sacred Timeline is a nexus event and creates a branch?
Her very conception is the nexus event, I'll expand, it has in no way to do with Sylvie being a female because some people will come for me at that :P A Nexus event as defined by Ms Minutes is" every now and then an individual and their pesky free will can interrupt that timeline with their actions." so technically on the genetic level Odin and Freya just not being in the mood that night or got frisky the night before caused a completely different versions of Loki.
HWR waited until she was capable of escaping to capture her. You guessed it right, her Nexus event was begin born as a wo
I always thought her Nexus event is that she kills He Who Remains
Her nexus event was killing He who remains
SHE'S LITERALLY A FEMALE VERSION OF LOKI FFS !!!!
Pretty solid theory.
Makes sense, abd it’s a good story
I mean...to begin in the main timeline she's not the godess of mischief...in a dialogue she said like me being born godess of mischief, once that created a branch big enough, the tva noticed and took her...I think so...because in the sacred timeline there's no Sylvie in Asgard
I hope they will be sylvie story in what if
Sylvie didn't have any nexus event, because HWR simply gave the TVA some bs reason why she had to be arrested, so that she can escape and eventually meet up with Loki centuries later and replace HWR.
This is was literally complicated way to retired😅
Her event was killing he who remains
I would like Imagine she work for female Thanos, fighting female version of original Avengers in 2012. lol
I want them to make a season 3
Her Nexus event she know she is adopted at a young age
Her nexus event was knowing she was adopted from the start
It’s her being a girl, literally tho. If the TVA prevents the multiverse from becoming a thing, they stop any little deviation from happening. So a big deviation, like a gendered swap Loki, couldn’t be possible, but where Loki is a shapeshifter, if chose to make that his default form it’d be a deviation. Same reason Croc Loki is him being a crocodile & Boastful Loki is him being black. The others have actually have different actions like Kid Loki, President Loki, and Old/Og Loki.
Crocodile Loki's nexus event was that he ate someone's pet that he wasn't supposed to so he caused a branch timeline and the TVA pruned him
The TVA doesn't prevent the multiverse, it prevents any universe from deviating from the timeline that creates he who remains instead of any other variant of him, so small details like silvie being a girl dom't change the outcome of her timeline but her deciding not to become a villain does
It's actually her wanting to become a valkyrie. If it were her gender then they'd have acted sooner, like at her birth. It was her deciding not to be the god of miscief who desired the throne but instead a hero who would protect her people that was her nexus event.
There are multiple timelines on the sacred timeline, they just only allow those that create he who remains or no rival kangs. Her becoming a valkyrie would prevent thor from being banished to earth and later the creation of the avengers, both huge events in the timeline.
@@charlestownsend9280 it also creates the situations where thor survives ragnarok and where thanos gets the space stone, which are also very important events
@@BomberDX97 that’s literally fan speculation, which is 100% better then the reality of the situation, but it’s just not true
WAIT A DAMN MINUTE!
Everyone saying Sylvie played with toys and wanted to be a hero. She was a kid! Don't you think our loki played with toys as a kid? Maybe loki played being a king, but thats what kids do pretend. Its clear He Who Remains ordered Ravonna to take her fir hus plan. HWR says in s1 ep 6 that he's gone rheough thousands of outcomes meaning hes tried different things in order to get Loki to take the throne of tva.
Which was not know by marvel 😂😂😂
She is the nexus herself a female loki .
I have anwer to Marvel's question which Marvel don't know 💀
Actually, Loki is not smarter than HWR. In fact, HWR tricky Loki to accept the throne
He who remain is afraid of LOKI so he captured all the lokis in multiverse even though there is no nexus event
Also if the Avengers were supposed to go back in time then Loki was supposed to escape. Because the Avengers had to time travel again.
Loki's path on the main timeline had him being jealous of Thor for many years and wanting the throne.
Sylvie didn't have the jealousy, and was hoping to become a Valkyrie. That's what caused her timeline to diverge
Actually she had one. Her nexus event was related to wanting to become a hero or a valkery instead of pursuing the throne.
The show runners said there probably will be a season 3. Not to mention Loki is Disney's top performing show, meaning they're very unlikely to end it given they're insatiable hunger for money. It's insane how many of you constantly lie about everything.
Incorrect, He who remains, had no idea who would take over or what would happen. Remember they cross the threshold before he is attacked.
People don't make nexus events. Nexus events happen to them. Avengers going through time dropped the space stone on Loki. It's always a time travel thing.
He didn't outsmart Kang. It was Kangs plan all along to guide Loki to reach his ultimate potential & be able to control the timelines. Remember all he wanted to do was die / retire. When Loki took the reins he did.
This was my belief too. Also, the TVA took Sylvie with them and nurtured her instead of pruning her, all plans by HWR.
The idea that's being thrown around that her nexus event was her getting the idea of being a heroic Valkyrie isn't very likely to me because even our Loki wanted to be a hero when he was young but failed to do it the way Odin wanted. It has to be Kang's wish that took her away.
Her nexus event was her showing tendencies to join Valkyries. It's confirmed by dialogue in the show. End of discussion