The work-from-home dream is a NIGHTMARE. - Xebec Tri-Screen 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
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Switching back to a single monitor after getting used to having three (or more) can be a pain. Xebec's Tri-Screen 2 portable monitor setup is here with a unique way to try to solve the problem, but does Adam think this solves the issue or does it introduce a whole new set of pain points into your workflow?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Puns are a fireable offence
0:58 Unboxing and what's included
1:37 The messy backstory behind Xebec vs Kwumsy
3:36 Figuring out how it works
4:43 Putting it on a MacBook
5:58 Sponsor - SecretLab
6:26 Buttons and additional adapters
7:22 Setup and some downsides
8:35 Features and specs
9:17 Okay maybe this isn't super convenient
10:31 On the brightside
11:35 Disaster almost strikes
11:50 We already have build quality issues
13:09 Competition and overall thoughts ft. Linus
14:16 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
11:47 It's literally so tight that it is bending the frame of the laptop - makes me shiver
Holy shit and it is visible so well on the camera, how did he miss that
@@cyjan3k823 because he wasn’t looking at the camera
that is also why the screen fall off the rails...
I wish it clamped me like that
I mean to be fair: I doubt this product was designed with slimbooks in mind. If you attach this bulky monitor extension to a slim display it's kind of your fault if it breaks.
Did they even test their own product? That stand is insulting
They need a way better stand, most likely one on each monitor
Ur wrong its honestly perfect for what it does
😂
My best guess is that this is still like their first gen product. The elastic band won't last a long time as sooner or later, the elasticity is gonna degrade over time. And the kickstand seems to be a prototype that went through and no one thought that maybe if we replace it with something thicker or metal, it would support the weight. That or someone really like the Switch V1 and thought it was a "good" idea
It felt like it was going to snap in the video.
Yeah, I'm sticking with a portable screen that is entirely separate, comes in its own folio stand/case, and is bigger while remaining thin.
I have one too and it's really handy when working remote. You can find decent ones for cheap too on amazon
Agreed, but I think future gens could be interesting. I like the concept.
Or just a nreal ar LMAO
@@bongmahadali9436 Are those as good as they make out? I have been *really* tempted to get one but I'm plagued by the fact it seems too good to be true.
It seems fine once you're set up and using it, but I was nervous that something was going to snap every time he was doing anything else. And for that reason these are not quite there yet
And for that reason I’m out
The fundamental problem with these add ons is that the laptop you're fitting it to isn't designed to carry that much weight up top, the hinge needs to be stronger and the weight distribution needs to be different.
I almost forgot that Linus did a video on a Kickstarter just like this. Hell, my dad is looking for a multiple monitor set-up for his work laptop.
They talk about it in the video
Just a get those slim usbc portable monitors. Don't get stuff like this.
I would personally look at the mobile pixel trio. Cheaper, uses less battery and has a larger 12.5 inch screen. I love mine and can also be used as non attached monitor if needed
current portable monitors are already pretty cheap and there's plenty of options available. Much more versatile, you can move the monitor itself around your table like vertically or at nearly any angle independent from the laptop. They will be stand alone monitors for anything else like for a console. Better quality in general, metal casings, solid stands, larger sizes.
Seems like this type of solution would be handy depending on the environment he finds himself using the laptop.
The ending sign off killed me lol 😂
9:53 i think they would have to field A LOT of calls from people leaving the cables plugged into outside ports, thrrowing it it a bag, having that bag impact something, and then completely seperating the port from the board or breaking the connector off inside the port, if the teardown procedure was not designed to make you unplug the cables, its a happy accident, because i for sure would design my product to do the same thing if there was not room to completely recess the port framework style
at 12:30 you can see the other company they show have their ports on the ends. I think these monitors are pretty useless. Of all the different models I've seen, none have really done it well enough to warrant spending over $100 for them
I thought about this, too. You really shouldn't move this too much with all those cables connected. One small drop or jump, and you could damage your laptop permanently.
Yes, specially now with the newer laptops having more fragile USBC it can not last long before something breaks easily.
Yea. Who really would throw any computer in their bag with cables still plugged in? That's just asking to break things. That being the case, it's actually smart that they force you to remove the cables before storing.
5:10 Whoever put that sound when Adam was touching the holder is amazing 👏🏻 👏🏻 👌🏻
That will ruin the battery, hinge and I think the main screen of the laptop because, if think about it, the main screen is being pressed from the sides, which can cause it to bend.
11:47 It did
I've tried these and it's a "Love, Hate" situation for me.✨️
Seems like it would be great if done well but all the products so far have some really annoying quality issues.
@@felixmuller1526 Ikr? The Razor Project Valerie looked pretty slick but sadly they didn't release it.
most of the attempts so far seem to be half assed. plastic everything, bulky build, screen quality subpar. there are some good ones out there, but only a couple of them and they are way overpriced compared to current portable monitors.
Does hdr hentai look good on it?
@@turtlelore2 yess the portable 15.6" monitors are undefeated.
If Luke’s looks with linuses voice was a single person, this is it
Well I'll never be able to unsee that
@@tomgreen2058 I agree
**with Linus' voice*
Linuses is a plural for Linus
@@MrWesternEagle Yup...
Not really
I purchased mine in December. Just opened it this morning. I didn't have the problems you did, i.e. kickstand, scratches... I did have to change the speaker setting, which is no big deal. I did change the resolution to 150% on each because I had a really hard time with it. All is good so far.
what type of laptop are you using it on and is it usable on your lap?
I am just waiting for a product that is handling all those little errors in design... Will be great for coding on the go. Thanks for checking those clumsy ones out...
I used two 17" USB screens that I turn vertical. Make much more sense.
And the iPad 12" on top of the notebook.
I don't know if it is just me, but for screens that size, having them portrait would be a preferred design. Main screen for main work, chat/email on one side screen, a doc or pdf on the other. That is sort of what i have on my desk (just one portrait though)
I would take one 15.6 inch monitor above two 11inch monitors. And I would put the extra display above the laptop screen. Probably need to use a strong portable stand for it
one 15" screen with HDR support costs about $150, so charging an extra $200 for 30% smaller screens and a cheap solution to mount them is insulting. I wouldn't pay more than $30-50 for the mount tbh and it would need a MUCH stronger stand to be worth it
I'll stick with separate screens. Takes a bit longer to set up and tear down but it's worth it - bigger screens, no clumsy mounting mechanism, though mine are still able to mount to the laptop itself so I have them at the same height and the laptop on a stand while working.
it's literally me signing onto my work VPN ten minutes earlier than my start date. My commute is 45 minutes. Fair trade.
I have these 2 displays I bought off of Craigslist. They connect via magnets to the back and easily slide out like this does. Except they are both 13.3" they have USB C on each side and have patch through so I can use a single USB C cable for both screens. They are super light and even with my laptop tilted a lot it didn't flip it over. And just pull them off of the screen. The only down side is you have to attach x2 little metal pads for the magnets to hook to. But they are awesome. I've had them for about 3 years now.
I like having it attached to the laptop for small spots like corners of counters, or rolling carts at work. I think if they can get the mechanisms right they’ll really take off, it’s just hard to justify it when it’s such a compromise. Really sad Razer never moved forward
This guy is so helpful (and entertaining). Tysm!
I do programming work from coffeeshops and have the mobile pixel duo and it has some fit/finish and UX issues, but all in all I'm really happy with it! A triple monitor set up could be cool but it feels like at that point the extra screen real estate isn't worth the added inconvenience.
I would hate a generic portable monitor because every step to using a screen on a separate kickstand is just a bit more inconvenient to the point where it'd be really distracting: shifting your laptop to avoid glare or get a more comfortable seating position, changing tables, packing and unpacking, fitting everything into a narrow or uneven table etc.
I'm a designer, and before covid I was freelancing (so diferent office each month, use your own machine etc etc). So this is RIGHT up my wheelhouse.
I used a 15/16in MBP with a 15.6in portable USB-C monitor, and then Duet app with my phone and a magnetic phone holder for an additional mini-monitor (great for monitoring teams/outlook/TH-cam etc). It was WAYYY less bulk, much thinner/lighter, much nicer looking and only cost about £160/180 in 2018ish. The Duet app was about £15 at the time if I remember, but I think it's a yearly subscription now.
9:50 Why would you ever throw a computer in a bag with cables still plugged in? That's just asking to break things. That being the case, it's actually smart that they force you to remove the cables before storing it.
sometimes you're in a hurry and need to move around spaces
i used to work at a shared office space, similar to a wework, and often times had to move around spots or pack my stuff and go on quick breaks because i had limited time - many scenarios come to mind
I think its something we need much more of, but it needs to be built directly into laptops for the best quality. Then here and there a few addon ones for some systems.
Personally I use the mobile pixel duo (also have a trio version available) and I’ve got to say I love it and wish it was reviewed instead. Not only does it attach to the back via super strong magnets but it also comes with a stand so you don’t have to attach it to the back of your laptop and use it as a portable monitor on the side. They slide in perfectly and the cables are plugged in from the side so easy to pack away without unplugging. Doesn’t consume battery that much either. It’s also cheaper. The trio I believe is $500 and is 12.5 inches whilst a 14.1 inch variant is available for $599
Yeah, no clue why they bothered reviewing these other ones. Mobile Pixels is what I had too (before work from home and selling it) and it's definitely the better option. The only downside is that when you're not using it you're left with the magnets on your screen. I wouldn't recommend these dual screen options, still, because it's just a lot of extra weight on the hinge--one extra is the max I'd recommend people get.
I've tried something similar and found the standalone options are just miles better.
I'm a video editor working a lot on festivals and other events remotely. So this would be so usefull. Having so much more screen space
I seen something similar to this... It was a tablet with a little fold in the case that propped it up, and you could just use a mini hdmi cable to connect it.
Who remembers the first triple laptop screen that never was: Slidenjoy? 😂
It was on Kickstarter and had a ton of backers but I don't know if it ever actually got made and delivered.
Rip my 60€
I got a 15.6" 1080P portable monitor from ViewSonic, a reputable brand, for $150 US to use with my EGPU. It has USB-C and supports daisy chaining so multiple screens only require one port on the laptop. It also has a mini HDMI port which is important for me because the EGPU doesn't have USB-C out. It even comes with a carrying case. I could get THREE of them for less than the price of the two, much smaller screens on this contraption. The only thing I can think of that this does better is if you don't have the space for a free-standing monitor, but that's a lot of money to fork over for a fairly niche use case.
I like the idea of having a all in one unit which can attach to a laptop for easier storage, but this REALLY need more development and consideration.
Was wondering if it worked with a surface. Thx for changing to the hp. Good for visiting offices and keeping the screens
I could see this being pretty neat for some really specific use cases. It needs more refinement to get it perfect, but given enough improvements it could actually be worth getting for some people.
I really love the idea of this sort of design, and I think it has some merit in terms of ease of portability and usability if perfected.
The biggest issue I see is the fact that laptop hinges aren't designed for this extra weight, however. The quality of the assisting stand and the weight of the unit is very central to the usability of it all.
idk, but properly implemented virtual screen for me personally is way more convenient, tan multidisplay setup. Mac OS gets almost everywhere I need. Withoit medding with external displys. Btw, i got external one and haven't used it for more than half a year. That's taking into consideration that i mainly work at home.
Minmaxing the workflow is pretty critical for me.
And btw, touchscreens for laptops I also think are dumb, unless tge laptop has tablet mode
The work-from-home dream is a DESKTOP!
None of these products can compete with the laptop arm I had installed next to my bed, who needs 2 mini monitors when you can use your primary display while laying down or rotated 90 degrees on your side?! Legit this display arm with a laptop vesa plate is the most secure monitor set-up I've ever used and considering I'm able to use my laptop in any position I want its added way more value than any second screen could add.
I'm planning on mounting a couple different laptop arms in my sprinter van conversion. With a 17" laptop you've got a large enough display to watch movies/shows and with the rotation/angles achievable on an arm you can watch sitting up, laying down & snuggled up without losing any viewing angles at all. Why get more monitors when you can make the most out of the ones you've already got?!
yeah i wish it was more of a bottom-mounted Dock kinda design so it doesn't mess with the main screen, also the cables being internal would be nicer, but i like the concept
The rollable screen that was demoed recently seems like a better solution albeit I imagine they wont be $500 extra.
I would love to see this product category evolve, but we are not quite there yet. We are also not quite there in terms of laptop hinge strength and display thinness.
There are also versions that just add one screen to your laptop instead of two, and those might have fewer ergonomic compromises.
I'd love to see laptops with 20" 4K screens that are still thin and relatively light. I know some regulations would have to change to allow them on airplanes, but having one large laptop screen you can divide into quadrants is infinitely more practical than this. I miss aspects of the 17" Core 2 Duo Macbook Pro I used for work back in 2007-08. The 17" LG Gram is a great replacement for it, but I would want to go even bigger in terms of screen size.
The best solution would be for it to have a *single* USB-C connector at the bottom of the frame with internal connections in the frame to the screens, and another power input only USB-C just beside it to provide pass-through power to the laptop. They could then include either two USB-C and two USB-C cables with right and left 90-degree "twist" respectively to make them flat on the side of the laptop, or USB-A and USB-C cables with "180-degree foldable" connector, not sure if these exist for USB-C though (they do for HDMI and USB-A). And a second kick-stand, there's no possible excuse there.
Doing it that way would be significantly more complex to engineer and the BOM would be higher, but the result would be an actual second generation product, this is more like generation 1.1... Or even 1.0, just not as overly cost-optimized as the other.
i think xr or ar glasses are going to the way to go once they can increase the perceived resolution. no need for addition weight hanging of your laptop and then you can have virtual monitors as big as you want.
I think im gonna stick to my virtual desktops on the go for now. its not like im actively gonna use more than two displays at once. I mostly navigate between apps with alt-tab anyway.
I love the idea of this item, but, only if the build quality improves dramatically.
It looks like it's going to be very easy to break the kickstand and the slide out screens over time
Ideally, the cabling would be integral to the frame with one or two shorter cables to connect to the laptop.
I have a converted PiTop (maker RasberryPi laptop) with a simple stand I have fitted for this use case - battery powered HD screen. Upside is does not effect laptop battery, downside is has own charger. One extra screen is enough mostly ?
My multiple monitor set up on the go consists of the Super Display app from the Play Store and my Samsung Tab S7 but any cheap android tablet will work. If I need a third display, although the most ideal, will be my phone using the same app. It is ungodly responsive even over wifi
Please do a ShortCircuit/LTT video about the MobilePixels one! I definitely want to see more of these!
since I found out that you can use an iPad as a second monitor with a windows laptop over usb c, I'm happy. only drawback: if you ipad isn't fully charged, it will charge off your laptop with up to 25 watts and that will make the fans spin up.
I just bought a 15.8" portable monitor to sit beside my laptop. Way more portable, less clunky, and the picture quality is surprisingly good.
are you able to see in your analytics at which point in the video timeline people push the like button? this would be very handy. I pushed like for the forehead and bluenose stickers.
It's always going to be a niche, but with some work on the engineering it could move from 'only the desperate' to something genuinely usable, but I am not sure it's worth the effort. If it had a metal chassis (that plastic doesn't make me think it will last) with smoother rails to push the screens in, if it had a full kickstand the whole middle width to support it, if it had the cabling to the monitors build into the middle frame so all the connections go into that (and didn't have to be removed if you were just folding it up), and especially if it had a better holding mechanism to the laptop that didn't put as much pressure against the screen. I think I'd even prefer if the middle just stood behind the laptop and the outer screens could be moved forward.
That's a whole lot of engineering and extra cost though, so ultimately I don't think it will take off and I'd just go with a portable screen or a tablet that I could actually use away from the laptop.
We need more of this but it isn't quite there yet
Would love this...integrated into the laptop itself. Something like even one screen just built into lid
@@Steven-bq5fu like the galaxy fold? How it folds out and stuff
@@KingLarbear naw I don't mean a folding screen. I mean like imagine this product but fixed to the lid, back of the screen. Maybe it's a bad idea because it couldn't switch to other laptops. A manufacturer could make a product like this for their own laptops with a screw hole or something. Idk. Just brainstorming.
14:14 No one like a winer 😂😂😂
11:41 wow you just hear someone off set having a heart attack cause of the laptop almost tipping over xD
Theres so much friction in the slides. They need a self lubricating plastic or to start from the bottom up.
I had literally the exact same experience as this with this brand. It is a little too early I think. It needs to be lighter and easier to operate, power and display. I would expect wireless display tech to help with the cabling and some way to simplify the power and reduce port consumption. I still like the idea because in theory you can just dump it in a single bag whereas an additional screen might need its own carry case etc. But overall, not a workable solution for me.
I really like this for doing work in my truck. I'm so used to having at least 2 monitors having to use my laptop without my dock I hate it. For $500 I may actually buy this. Probably will only use the left side screen 99% of the time it's being used but I do not have someplace to set a portable monitor in my truck.
put this on the MSI titan G77 the LTT did a few weeks ago and make the ultimate laptop. plugging in one of the usbc cables into a power bank and one into the laptop.
How about smaller wings on either side but integrated think Samsung fold? Just big enough for like some notes and spotify have the main action in the middle
I've got an entirely separate portable monitor with an aluminum stick for a kickstand. It's perfectly fine, and while it isn't an "HDR" screen with high refresh rates or anything, it does its job and isn't obnoxious to use. I've no reason to invest in this device, even though two screens would be cool. Do I think they should keep at it? Yes. It's not great yet, but I can envision a version which won't be excessively small and won't be janky AF. Something with extending metal rails, a metal kickstand, probably a built in battery, and wiring that plugs into the bottom of the frame to connect to the screens anywhere along the track so you don't have to unplug things to fold it up, that will still be only $500ish.
You guys should've reviewed (given some love) to the lenovo yoga tab 13.
It was a tablet that could double as a portable monitor. I feel like it flew under the radar and now is seemingly discontinued. Too bad.
Imo, most if not all tablets, should have a video in.
I think these could be done right but to do so it would be quite expensive and for a very niche market. I wonder if in the future we could see the tech similar to those foldable tv prototypes as like a portable curved ultrawide. Like imagine having a 32:9 monitor that roles into a protective tube you could just hook onto your laptop bag
This would be an amazing device to stick in your backpack when on call.
This seems to to be one form factor where flexible Oleds actually make sense. Image an ultra wide laptop with a one piece screen that folds out in three sections and a proper hinge/kickstand to support it.
I see the appeal and if I was still traveling a ton for work I’d be interested.
Would like to see a how it fits in the LTT backpack for all portable devices
I want something like this but the screens are too small and the mechanisms need work. I'd like to see a version 5.0.
As someone who is constantly moving around and showing people things on my screen, I love the idea of it being somewhat attached to my laptop. I don't want to have to grab multiple items to move but I want this to be better. Lighter and/or better kickstand, fewer cords, uses less of my battery. Yes, I know I'm asking for all the things :)
That Rocks D. Xebec !
Would this work with the win max 2?
they really need to make a version of this with a single USB C cable using MST that plugs into the main body instead of the displays.
This should continue to evolve, nothing wrong with having a form factor like this vs a separate stand alone, but the execution lacks polish, assumed longevity, and is in essence, currently clumsy or combersome. Good review highlighting the plus and minus of.
For a work laptop I wish they could design it with simple 15" 1080P IPS screens (or 7.5" tall portrait screens). Use an aluminum chassis with nylatron pads for the sliding surfaces... like a drawer. The kickstand would also need to be metal to fix the flex issues, but seriously you should be at the lounge or a desk so the screen isn't tilted so far back.
"What Xebec is this" - made me chuckle!
This form factor is really good, but i want it for a THICC Gaming/producitvity laptop (The sort of "Portable PC" type)
The fact that it attaches to the laptop itself is wierdly Important to me... i also really like the way they bend in like Shutters!
This thing reminds me of my old Game Boy magnifier and light snap-on accessory
It’s a really cool idea. A better quality build would make it real nice
I just use opensource 'SpaceDesk' from my phone (if I dont need a big screen) or a tablet for secondary screens when out. Its free software, just need your phone/tablet and wifi.
I've seen a few of these multi-monitor attachments for laptops from a few tech TH-cam videos now and the conclusion that I have come to is that they are all unique... uniquely sh!t
I think it makes sense but the screens need to be bigger, 12/14 inches. They don't need to be crazy high res but the size matters a ton. And they need 2 solid kickstands not one weak one. As you pointed out someone might want to use the touch screen. I think it has potential, esp, with a better kickstand larger screen and better connector (one cable you don't have to remove when storing).
Anybody have an idea on what that 2nd to last laptop that they used was? It's an HP something but I cant find it. I like the look of it and need 1 for school.
linus walkes in: i can answer that!
also linus: what am i looking at?
__unfolds__
also also linus: oh god
__linus walks away__
This seems like an engineering sample. I don't expect it to last longer than a month of daily use
I looks like something from the 80's showing us what things would be like in the year 2000.
its dream worth chasing but not there yet, for me bit bulkier design for better support and cable management will be great, just 1 remove able cable with recessed slot like framework to protect the port so when I want to go I'll just pull 1 plugged on the laptop, fold, store in bag an go
for the 3rd one they should integrate the connectors into the case so you can stay plugged in...
I wonder if they could do a side by side of someone who uses the virtual monitors from windows vs this laptop to see how worth it it is to them.
11:46... is the laptop monitor slightly bending under the tension of the attachment?...
Useful product, obviously not there yet in terms of the mechanism and overall build-quality. Would've loved something like this when I was a laptop only music tinkerer for a couple years before finally going desktop.
If the sliding mechanism and kickstand were much improved it would greatly increase the user experience
Did you see the display flex on the 15 inch laptop when the screen where clamped to it??
It looks like the frame needs to be a lot better quality than what it currently is. If they can sort that out and keep a similar price, then yeah I can see it being useful for some people
Given how that review went my guess is that it's plastic because, if it was glass or metal, it'd be broken or bent after first use.
Most people I know that do mobile office work (oilpatch) use 16-17" monitors on their laptops, that or take compact 10-14" laptops and bring ultra wide monitors with them. This is great in concept, but given the build's downsides I couldn't see myself getting one. As a 17" laptop user myself, would expect the extra two monitors to be 16-17" as well, the brightness/refresh rate is really low (at least 300-500nits/120-144hz) and I'm not impressed with the use of the plastics, fabric stretch band for retention or the flimsy kick stand leg. At this point, sometimes I miss the days of just buying a 35" Origin All-in-One system for work and just taking that. Laptops have come a long way, but for those of us working in mobile offices, sometimes AIO's were just better.
It would be cool if the rear of these screens were covered with a solar panel that could charge a laptop at the same time.
Not sure why it would be so hard to create a second stand or one that is centered.
the best freaking outro EVEERRRRR, PERIODDDDD
Needs another version to iron out the sliding mechanisms and USB port placement. Other than that, this will work for a few people, short on space. 👍
Once they can make them as thin or thinner than an average MacBook Pro, and attach with magnets or something if they make it light enough then it would make sense. Right now it's heavier and thicker than most laptops and needs a kickstand to keep it up. If it could just support itself with just the laptop hinge I would buy it. Once display tech for foldables allows for bigger screen sizes I think that is where this should go, take advantage of folding screens to make it even more compact.
i like the idea but they should make it modular and them sell the 2 screens separate maybe 200 for the stand (if they go for aluminium)