The “worst new car you can buy” can be surprisingly reliable.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 เม.ย. 2023
- Here’s a 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage that has over 500,000km. In this video, I go over how it’s holding up and any major problems it’s had so far.
00:01 What PDI?
01:34 Under the car.
03:14 One of the best features.
04:26 Test drive.
05:02 All the rpm's! Click bait...
Here's some other Mirage video's • Mitsubishi Mirage stuff
And here's some other random clips of a 2014 Mirage used for a few camping trips in the back country.
Washed out road and trying to climb switch backs in loaded Mirage:
• Testing the limits of ...
And this one has some swearing, things didn't go very well:
• Testing the limits of ... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Update: 536,500kms/333,000miles. This car still runs good. I had to replace the catalytic convertor(installed a used one) recently because it broke loose inside and was partially plugging the exhaust causing it to be noticeably low on power.
As a car guy, this is the car that got me back to the brand. Love the Mirage.
As an ex-recovery driver it's these little cars that usually last forever. The most common vehicles we used to drag off the road were actually German.
the germans make nice cars if you can afford them but after owning a mercedes the amount of unnecessary over-engineering nonsense led me to a mirage I have more important things to deal with than my transportation at the moment
I heard that most German cars sold in America are made in USA and are not as reliable as those made in Germany. Cars made in Germany are very reliable like my old 1998 318ti hatchback.
@@jd-py5nmMercedes up until the late 90s was actually super solid and very reliable with incredible longevity. The W140 S-Class from the 90s is as smooth as a current S-Class, but without the insane technology.
I’m a Copart truck driver in the UK and yes you’re right, most the cars I collect from businesses and customers are German luxury cars. Very rarely we we pick up these Mitsubishi’s only if they’re totaled and they still drive 😂.
Love my 2014 mirage
They do not make German cars in United States they're all made in Germany@@robertonavarro7713
it’s not like they were engineered to last either, they are just dead simple and easy to work on. Driven many cars and the mirage still being my go to choice.
Bollocks, Japanese stuff is 99 % of the time engineered to last.
I just want more sound deadening, better suspension, better materials, more space, a bigger, more powerful engine with more cylinders and better transmission and brakes to deal with it. The issue is those engines are too inefficient witthout lots of technology and with the other things carmakers always go overboard and stuff so much extra technology into the cars that it just becomes a headache, often even before it breaks!
Once again this is another case of just how reliable these little things are.
I'm honestly not surprised. Even though it's a cheap car, it's still Japanese---built to last. And they wouldn't have given it a 10 year/100,000 powertrain warranty if they didn't think it would make it
Absolutely !
I've heard that Hyundai and Kia are pretty picky about their warranty, even if it's 10 years they may try to weasel out of taking responsibility for repairs. Wonder how Mitsubishi is! Certainly a competitive feature.
@@zzoinksThat applies to all manufacturers and all warranties---they all try to weasel out of it. That's when you ask for the regional zone manager....
Congratulations on 500,000kms! That's awesome, man.
Freaking insane bro, love it. You deserve a medal. You are a champion of the earth 🌍
i love this little car. It may not be a fancy, flashy car to drive but it serve the purpose and above all very cheap to run.
Yes, it's holding up very well. What a value. You got your money's worth. I just got a 2023 Mirage G4 and love it. I'll take care of it and hope to get 200,000 miles out of it.
just replace the oil not every 5 or 6 K miles, but every 3,000 miles its only 3 quarts and so easy to do!
I just bought a 2019 Mirage last August 2022 only had 6k on it, one owner always kept in garage and not an issue with it so far. These cars are very easy to maintain and look and run pretty great. I average about 45-47 mph usually, I don’t drive it much and it currently just has a little over 11k on it. Hoping to keep it for a long time.
you'll see 50 mpg plus when you keep the freeway speeds limited to max speed 60 mph. better with the cruise control, try it out!
I have a 2022 G4 I'm doing Uber and in just 1 year I almost done 90k miles on it, and until now only oil change and tire rotation, cheap on gas an reliable
I LOVE my mirage.
I have 151,000 miles on my 2015 manual.
Im going to keep it and repair it until its too rusted to maintain!
Yep, we had one as our backup car that I would use to keep KMs off my 06 Miata.
Ours hit 130k kms, 2013 model. No issues whatsover, even doing a major service on it at home was dead easy. It just keeps going and going.
Haha, the Mirage is crackhead proof! Great spot, showing the front catalytic converter attached to the exhaust manifold. I wonder if Mitsubishi intentionally designed this after all those stolen CATs off of Outlander Sports/RVR? Reviews with long, substantive, data such as this, is what potential owners should be learning from. Not Doug fuckin DeMoron looking at brochures up side down and testing exactly how many
farts above a Doug score of 4, can the Mirage's driver's seat handle. The Mirage is workhorse or better yet, a workdonkey. Good car.
Doug DeMoron..hahaha good one! That idiot slagging off this car don't have a clue what he's talking about.
Yes! I’m so glad you slammed that PUD. I’m in 100% agreement with you. These are excellent little vehicles. The worst in HYPOCRISY came after seeing him sing his praises for a JDM, Subaru Sambar van. Essentially everything in the same amounts at the diminutive Mirage except an even smaller engine. I’m usually not this crass but, Doug is just an asshole.
Yes, there are some car reviewers who can’t find their asphalt with both hands.
When Doug tested it, he found a plastic thingy under the seat and wondered what it was. I believe it was the deflector/nozzle for the rear seat heater. He couldn't figure that out.
I have a 2015 and I'm really impressed, timing chain (not a belt), water pump easy to replace, body is holding up amazingly. The clutch kit is less than $150, brakes also a great deal.
Other Mitsubishi cars I've owned, Stealth R/T twin turbo and an Eagle Talon AWD turbo; both very reliable and fun to drive.
Ooooh the Eagle was a Mitsubishi?
@@Friday_V7
Also the Dodge Colt and D50 pickup.
This makes me confident that mine will last quite some time
Absolutely indestructible car.
I got used mirage with 145000 km mileage.
And it was with !factory! CVT fluid. And... No any problems! Just drives and not braking
Breck?
One of the nicest review! Thanks for the information! Overall channel is filled with nice and knowledgeable videos ☺️
cool vid! been waiting for this "long-term" review on these beasts! bought a 2023. Keep it up!
You beat the odds and the system. Don’t ever get rid of it. Keep it going.
Great video. Keep them coming!
I just got a 2018 mirage manual with 76,000 miles on it. Really good car so far
Thanks for sharing! I just bought a 2021 Mirage with 36,000 miles.
Hope I get miles like you did!
500k miles and the dashboard looks mint :) I have a 2016 and it is still running fine, the only one that failed was the rear wheel bearing which I have changed. It could be the road conditions here in the Philippines.
I traveled 400 miles Houston to dallas a lot and I do gig app jobs. It super reliable car I can tell you
I’ve driven my 2015 Mirage Hatchback from Fort Worth Texas to San Francisco and back twice with no issues. Hoping to drive it till the wheels fall off and then some. I freaking love my car!!!
Very interesting video, thanks for posting!
That's the great thing about the super basic cheap cars. Less features = less to break. Even when something does break they're stupid easy to work on and the parts are cheap. The base model Hyundais are good for this too. In my elantra the automatic was an extra. Same with cruise control and even A/C was optional lol. Keep an eye on fluids, do your regular oil changes, make sure your tires are good, keep the underside clean during winter so it doesn't rust. Basic maintenance stuff. You'd be surprised just how much these little eco-boxes can be troopers.
Yes. My 2006 Accent owes me nothing.
Hello there,
i have an 2014 mirage, and still works fine the only thing i had to switch it was the battery 2 years ago, maintance is a vital part!
Best regards
Amazing little cars
Great news. Mitsubishi should sponsor you for your efforts to keep your Mirage running.
simple yet very reliable and efficient
Wow that catalytic converter location is awesome
Shocked you got that kind of mileage out of one of those JATCO belt-squeezer CVT transmissions. Good video.
It's a really lightweight car, so they tend to last a long time in the Mitsubishis
Jatco are good enough. All depends on factory calibration. Nissan got problems with this but not Mitsubishi.
@@user-my2qe3fh6k Yes I suppose you are right. Maybe Nissan is just putting these transmissions behind a motor with too much torque.
Jatco 7 is rated up to 150hp cars, the Mirage is only 80hp at most, it will last forever with 30k mile CVT fluid changes.
That's absolutely ridiculous. Apparently I'll never be able to get rid of my '20 5 speed. I'm about to turn over 65k (104k in km).
oh it will last all right, I beat mine every day and use it for autocross practices and sometimes when im bored take it to the alternate routes and mountain passes, took mine through rough road where people say im crazy bringing a non 4x4 car there and you know what the only thing that failed me is the clutch and its understandable since its a consumable part, great car for the price really, its a shame its getting a lot of hate and never been given a chance, well at least in the american market where people complain a lot, but here in south east asia its the next common car youll ever see, bought cheap, runs cheap but it never fails and its still comfortable, if you say other wise you have never driven a toyota alya, that piece of crap deserves all the hate that the mirage is taking.
I just took mine on a 1400km road trip. We camped at places in the Rocky Mountains that I'd never be able to get my truck and camper into. Car never missed a beat and was loaded down a little heavy, riding on the bump-stops for a bit of the trip.
I put 222,088 miles on my 2015. The CVT went out. I was so impressed with it, I bought a 2022.
Did you ever change the cvt fluid? There's one in the fleet I maintain with 333k miles/536k kms on it that's still going. I just changed the fluid once in a while and it seems to help make them last way longer.
@@turdpailsandtrails when I sold it, it had the fluid it left the factory with.
Man these were built for one purpose. Basic reliable transportation. No frills. But buy a manual.
My mom has a 2018, and I have a 2022 RVR... The Mirage had to have its battery and brake pads changed, that's it. You have to change the transmission oil every 50k km though...
Had a 1997 Mitsubishi colt coupé (the colt was the equivalent of this mirage at the time I think)
It was a good looking car, and refused to die no matter how much I abused it
This car will bring you from point A to B. My mirage overheated because of failed radiator cap. Coolant were thrown out, reservoir is empty, I’m still 130 km away from home and its 5:00 pm. I bought coolant but no rad cap available, fill it up the radiator about 2 ltrs of coolant instead of 3 ltrs, it will be wasted if i fill till top because of defective rad cap. I arrive at home without any engine overheat, this car is a tough one.
I have a 2015 1.2 CVT. Now 8 years from new, and 130.000 km. Not a single defect. Not even a light bulb broke. Only a squeeking belt, that I replaced as a precaution, and a small leak in the roofrail. What was not good was that I needed to align the front wheels, but that was difficult to do, because left front had a lot of positive camber, and right front had a lot of negative camber. It took some effort to get those to factory specs (no camber). But, I checked all the fluids under the hood today, all still full after 10.000 km of driving.
could you describe how to align the wheels on a mirage?
Why was there so much camber different? Was this something with a manufacturing defect?
@@charkswitlazers Yes. The factory works sloppy when it comes to manufacturing rear axles and front suspension mountings. Just a few mm, but nevertheless, it is too much.
@@ronaldderooij1774 how’s the rear alignment? I hear some mirages had bad rear axles causing premature tire wear
@@charkswitlazers Thankfully my car's rear alignment was very good. It is not adjustable, so if your rear alignment is off, you need another rear axle and hope for the best. I would research if it is the out of spec mounting points at the body or the axle itself (bent, damaged) that makes the alignment go wonky.
amazing
Doug's been real quiet since this review dropped.
Maybe he's the one that gave this video a thumbs down?
@@turdpailsandtrails Wouldn't doubt it. For every 10 people who agree with him, there's one of us vehemently
defending this modern-day go-kart.
@@precisionxt I call my Chevy Spark a go-kart with doors. Love it.
A major parts supplier in my city uses these for their delivery fleet and they love them. Small, simple cars have gone the way of the dodo bird unfortunately.
I like these.
I just got my marage and love it. Lets see how many miles i can put on her
l have one too and very happy
Thanks ...I'm a person of poverty and thinking of getting one to do a serious road trip before I die😂
150,000 miles on mine with no major problems
The roads seem to be really bad there and no suspension components worn out ? Really surprised
As a canadamerican I appreciate that you are bilingual.
My 2015 Mirage has about 350,000 km on it now and still runs like a top. It has needed three clutch cables...but is still on its original clutch. 😂😂
I feel like such a wimp, my 2018 only has 127,000 miles.
If it makes you feel any better, my 2019 G4 has just under 21,000 miles :D
April 2024 UPDATE.....My 2018 Mirage now has 156,000 miles on it! Just the worst 😀😀😀
I'm around 125,000 on my 2017 g4 5 speed.
Getting ready to trade in my 2020 Mustang Ecoboost Premium for a Mirage. More practicality
Mitsubishi could be a car brand that is actually improving but really it is Mitsubishi/Nissan/Renault
I bought mine, a 2019 mitsu mirage a year ago and it's really amazing, at first it was weird driving it since i used to drive an old dodge caravan, but i'm so happy with it, on the highways it's so good, average 120km/hrs usually, on country roads you gotta take a bit of extra care and drive slowly, otherwise runs like a charm, a great car.
Tho 1 question, when should i change or like do the CVT maintenance, now it got 45200 kms on it, thanks for the advice in advance ♥️
I try to change the cvt fluid every 50,000km on the fleet that I maintain. I’m pretty sure that’s what the severe service schedule calls for.
These take some getting used to. I went from a 1 ton diesel truck as a commuter car to a Mirage. They’re a great way to save money.
@@turdpailsandtrails thankss for the advice, i'll keep it in mind and yeah they're the perfect commuter, team mitsu🫡
If its reliable , its not the worst but the best.
I have a 2019 mirage and a 2014 1.2 chevy spark both with over 100xxx miles and not a single problem just normal maintenaince.
I must have had a lemon. Mine had many problems. Paint blistering and rust bubbles by the window and passenger door rot after 4 years, tranny problems, heated seats that never worked on the drivers despite new switch replacements the dealer did, electrical issues with the back up camera and screen, very poor handling and multiple failures of various components. I bought it thinking it would be a simple and cheap car to work on, it was not. I bought an older used yaris and the quality and reliability far surpasses the new mirage.
You must have gotten a lemon. The paint is thin though, on the higher mileage cars here the front edge of the hood and roof above the windshield is full of paint chips and surface rust. Cvt's are hit or miss. We have some in the fleet with 400-540,000kms on the original cvt, others failed at 200,000kms. Most of the fleet cars don't have heated seats but my 2014 does and they still work great despite it being flooded in a river for hours. Overall, they're pretty low maintenance compared to the Nissans, Fords and Chevy's in the fleet.
With the proper turbo and tune, you can double the horsepower which makes it insanely good to drive. For those crying about it being too slow. HOWEVER, you can't just buy a turbo kit, you gotta manufacturer everything yourself and tune yourself. Which some people may not be into. They could pay a shop to do it. its not hard. But yeah, this car is actually a champ. simple and amazing. i could get 30mpg+ driving like miss daisy and when I abuse it and redline all day every day, i still get 20mpg.
yeah, boosting the engine with a turbo, good idea until the CVT goes out, did you do anything to build up the tranny? dont think the factory CVT is a hero for taking abuse!
@@gkauto1959 I didn't buy the CVT model because im not a neanderthal. I can drive stickshift so I got the 5 speed. and its pretty robust
Would you say changing the transmission fluid early, like every 30,000 KM would prevent the CVT Transmission filters from getting dirty?
Changing it early isn't going to hurt anything, if the filters are gonna pick anything up changing the fluid isn't going to prevent it. The car I showed in the latest video hasn't had either cvt filter replaced and the fluid was changed at 50-100k km intervals.
hi i really like your video i have a 2008 mazda 3 and i think i will buy a reliable car for a long time my maximum will be a car at 19 000$ = 300$ per month i wonder if it will be a good thing to take a mirage 2023 or else its would you be better off buying a used car of the same value like a 2017 corolla or lancer for the same price
If you can get past the fact that these things are slow compared to pretty much anything else on the road, get blown around in the wind and are tin cans then why not! They’re simple, dependable, I average 40mpg in mine, dirt cheap cost of ownership, easy to fix and maintain. Can park then anywhere, pull a u-turn on a dime, and regardless of what most say, they can drive on the highway… they’re noisy and get blown around but it’s a 2000lb car. They really haven’t changed a lot since 2013 other than making them look less outdated. And that’s not a bad thing. Used low mileage parts are aplenty to keep these turds going for a while.
Is it the manual transmission gearbox or CVT?
Did the interior get any rattles from all the miles?
This car may not be show room pretty but damm there really ain’t nothing quite like a simple affordable workhorse that won’t turn its back on you
Have you replaced the timing chain inside the engine? The owner’s manual says to change it at 120,000 or 150,000mi( i forget now). I have a 2020 mirage LE and im at 97,000 mi. I did do a brake fluid flush andthe usual oil and transmission fluid change
No, I’ve never replaced one on these engines. There’s a number of Mirages in the fleet I maintain with 250-300,000miles and they’ve never had any engine work or even oil leaks.
This has shocked me the engines lasted so long for a cylinder car , I don't even think a toyota corolla Engine would get that kinda mileage out of the same engine...
I'm baffled your CVT has lasted this long. The CVT on my 2014 started having that common surging problem around 40k miles, 10k miles after getting it serviced. I didn't bother bringing it into the dealership for diagnosis because the surging was very random. I knew they'd test-drive it and just say they couldn't replicate the issue. I think what kills these CVTs is improper servicing. From my understanding, the dealership does not clean or replace the screens when they change the fluid. I think that's what's killing them so early for a lot of people.
Yeah this one is original, I replaced the one in my 2014 a few years ago because it was surging. Changing the valve body probably would have cured that.
@@turdpailsandtrails that's incredible. So bizarre some last so long and others die so damn early.
@@palebeachbum I messed up. I didn’t realize which video this was…this car in this video is the highest mileage cvt car in the fleet. It’s at 321k miles/527k Km.
My personal 2014 had issues at 280k Km so I replaced it.
@@palebeachbum Yours was the exception, not the rule. Most CVT Mirages last well past 200k miles.
@@kylemas2005 that's simply not true. Most do not.
Would you say these are quite good in snow, just like, normal driving in the winter? I ask as people keep saying any 2 wheel drive car, even with snow tires, has no chance in any amount of snow.
They get around just fine here in Central Alberta. Having decent winter tires will help with any vehicle.
@@turdpailsandtrails Awesome! I figured 2 wheel drive was just fine. Thanks!
AWD is overrated. First cars I see in the ditch every winter have AWD because people think they're invincible with it. Just drive careful, especially if the roads are bad.
Tires a definitely a huge factor. My dad has a subaru impreza (great car) and when the tires wore out it was like a moose skating on sheer ice in the winter despite the killer awd system.
I just got 2023 HB mirage i hope it will run 500K odo also 😑😑
Brother I have bought a 2017 Mitsubishi mirage with 64000 miles can I please help me what service should I do on it like change cvt fluid I put fully synthetic oil and other device I need pls help me
Ok you sound like you ae ready to get dirty, so here goes: go ahead and change that oil even 3k, not 5 or 6, do it at 3k! Its only 3 quarts, so these oil changes are cheap. check your tire inflation, the tires are always under inflated, they say on the sidewall they can take up to 51 psi so put 45 psi in there! on your CVT service , use Amsoil fully synthetic CVT fluid, its far superior to the Mitsubishi factory CVT oil ad will improve shift quality and let you run that automatic into the 300k range. Thats reeky it, its just those 3 things, and by the way you can skip changing the oil filter once changing the oil, just skip it until every other oil change, especially when you go on amazon and buy neodiyum magnets that slap onto the side of the filter housing, that magnetize the inside of the filter housing trapping all sorts of debris that way. Or look up "oil filter mag" on the. web and see what they look like. Have fun, these are just the best transportation cars built today!!
If that 0-60 was higher i would get one. That’s the only thing stopping me.
Get a 5 speed. Whole different animal.
That’s crazy over 500,000km’s.
You musta been run’n Team China engine oil? 😂
Got one 2015 my self. Still strong. Hate ctv tho
*CVT
you've mentioned its a 2017 model. and we are still year 2023. more or less 6 years. and thats already the condition of your car? I got a 2017 Mirage as well but still currently in mint condition. I dont know the terrain and road condition in your region but based on the engine bay I've seen, a lot of dust and dirt. even on the unders, rust is building up. good thing I dont have that in my unit. Undercoat paint will do the job to protect it. Even the interiors. the presence of dirts are so visible.
The black Mirage is mine, the rest are all parts delivery cars and it shows. We're in Alberta so roads and weather vary daily.
@@turdpailsandtrails I see. I assume you want to rebuild and restore that car. the white Mirage.
"It's not the years, honey. It's the mileage." --Indiana Jones 😂😂
have you changed cvt fluid on the vehicle?
Yes, I replaced the fluid 6 times in this car. 5 drain and fills (just pulled the drain plug no filter replacements), and one time I dropped the pan and cleaned out the valve body @ 390k km. I usually try to change fluid every 50k km but that doesn't always happen. This car is still going at 530k kms.
No need to put 'miles' we all understand what kilometres are very well! Thank you.
WHERE do you drive everyday????
I have the same cvt. What has been your service schedule for this one?
Both filters and full fluid swap?
Just fluid?
Just pan drop and filter. Top oil up?
I usually try to replace the fluid(just drain from the plug and refill 2.5L) every 50k km(30k miles). That didn't always happen on time with this car...and it's never had any of the cvt filters replaced. I took the valve body out and cleaned it out about a year ago and recently dropped the pan again to inspect and it looked good. I just use universal cvt fluid. No need for mitsu labled stuff in my opinion.
@turdpailsandtrails you're a legend mate! So brilliant as a mechanic that remembers a time when your knowledge barely went past what happened in your own shop. Now, you can not only watch what others do. You can get info directly from generous people like yourself with real-world expertise.
I'm super appreciative of your content and your reply bud!
Thank you!
@turdpailsandtrails P.S. from my looking into it. Your cvt fluid is probably better than the "genuine" stuff anyway.
NS-2 was supplied by a Shell subsidiary and was rubbish (thousands of failures).
NS-3 is supplied by idemetsu to mitsubishi, suzuki, Nissan etc. Anyone with the jatco product. But it's still only a semi synthetic at 3x the price of fully synthetic oils that have proven to last and prevent any wear for far longer.
Que tipo de aceite haz usado ?
Klondike 0w20 and universal cvt fluid.
ÖL 0 W20
What country are you in ?
Canuckstan
"All these years".
Hilarious.
My 1997 Tommy kaira M20b laughs at your Mitsi'.
My long term 1982 928S would like a word with you, if you wouldn't mind.
And my 1969 911S also would like a chat after that.
Cheers.
Giver
cope harder
Who cares
@compensatingporscheguy Cool story. They'd probably look great with a Chicago sunroof.
The real problem with this car is what happens when you get into an accident. If you’re in this car and get hit, you’re likely going to be injured much more than if you were in something like a Corolla. Why chance it when there are so many idiots on the road?
There's always going to be someone in a bigger, scarier vehicle. Out of the dozen or so Mirage wrecks(total loss/write off) that I've seen, nobody has been injured other than bruises.
@@turdpailsandtrails crash tests don’t lie.
WHAT IS CVT????
continuously variable transmission.
@@gkauto1959 cost more to rebuild or replace??
Is it the manual transmission gearbox or CVT?
Cvt