The MOST BROKEN Character in Fire Emblem Engage - Jean and Ike Great Aether Combo Analysis

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  • @yukiizura
    @yukiizura ปีที่แล้ว +508

    Anything that allows Jean to be the demonic killing machine with puppy eyes that he deserves to be is a good thing. Ike 100% would endorse this too.

    • @HeartOfClod
      @HeartOfClod ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aka, anything, really haha

    • @destinyshand2049
      @destinyshand2049 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I initially took Jean!Tiki High priest for that comical 100 luck, 95 Res, 85 mag to make him anti-armor/anti-magic, then i reclassed to Thief to REALLY get that dex and spd up there with 85 in each. i have since inherited the 15% tiki growths and put Camilla on him, he is putting Yunaka to shame plus nuking armors with camilla bolt axe

    • @AutisticJesusGaming
      @AutisticJesusGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I made mine a mage hoping he can get a. Shite ton of magic.

    • @aishi_rei
      @aishi_rei ปีที่แล้ว

      Can he really defeat Red Bowman?

    • @morganuhl9992
      @morganuhl9992 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@destinyshand2049 Is theyu any Builds For Jean as a SwordGeneral. Just asking.

  • @xmaple1x
    @xmaple1x ปีที่แล้ว +294

    Jean's Dad will have the shock of his life after his son returns back from the war with Ike body build and a Jojo pose.

    • @happyduke99
      @happyduke99 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      And jean said to his dad....I forget my training as a doctor, now I am the world number 1 fighter

    • @gggamer141
      @gggamer141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @Chun712tube
      @Chun712tube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nooo, he is a doctor 😂 haha

    • @TwilightWolf032
      @TwilightWolf032 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dad, I'm a healer (pulls out Ragnell), BUT...

  • @dessam3939
    @dessam3939 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Love the thumbnail, I was always convinced that Ike could pass for a Jojo character (especially part 1-3) and him being Jean’s stand just proves it

    • @m.a.dmatt6689
      @m.a.dmatt6689 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      omg it only took me this long to realize the emblems 'are' stands

    • @A-largeCat
      @A-largeCat ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Emblemo powah!

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Glad you like it, my man Cordelini did an amazing job!

  • @iblobtouch
    @iblobtouch ปีที่แล้ว +150

    You can go in the opposite direction and still make a tanky enemy phase monster. Take Jean, put him on martial master, give him Sorens ring and up bond to 14, equip rexcalibur and watch him nosu tank the entire enemy team due to Flares 100% return from damage from tomes.

    • @kaptainsalty7335
      @kaptainsalty7335 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      My god

    • @dambros
      @dambros ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I gotta give this a try... I guess the idea is having vantageor hold out as well so you won't die in one hit before healing, right?

    • @iblobtouch
      @iblobtouch ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dambros Honestly i'd suggest putting on speedtaker + pair up and using a speed tonic. Combo's, getting doubled or not doubling back can quickly cause you to lose more hp than you gain. Only if the enemies can literally one shot you do you need hold out since you'll always heal back to full after combat anyway.

    • @rellix6528
      @rellix6528 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just started messing around with Soren, I'm on chapter 15 I think. He seems broken

    • @dambros
      @dambros ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn't make it work well so far on my current playthrough even though Jean is stat capped on almost everything. His speed is too low for doubling enemies on ch24 and 1 attack with Rex is around 40 DMG, which isn't enough to kill most enemies.

  • @Zodiacagegaming
    @Zodiacagegaming ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Jean joins the like of muzu, cyril, and donnel of child villagers who are secretly monsters

    • @blackstar4494
      @blackstar4494 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Donnelly the OG like my god 😭

    • @justascarecrow6988
      @justascarecrow6988 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@blackstar4494 He who, in a broken game, is broken.

    • @leargamma4912
      @leargamma4912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But they all require investment when you could use units who are already good. Eh. Not worth it.

    • @BigmeechT
      @BigmeechT ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don’t forget Ross lol

    • @DivineNaruto
      @DivineNaruto ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@leargamma4912 worth it. They become better than everyone else very shortly.

  • @Base20dragon1
    @Base20dragon1 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    IF YOU GIVE HIM THE THREE HOUSES EMBLEMS HE GETS AYMR BUT THEY MAKE IT JEAN (mini) SIZED ITS SO CUTE I SWEAR

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's funny, I never noticed that, I have to go take a look!

    • @sirajsaunders9967
      @sirajsaunders9967 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's my Three Houses runner the who maddening run. He's a BEAST

    • @magicfish8213
      @magicfish8213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It sure is good that Edelgard had that feature built into he Crest Weapon

  • @ryang.2907
    @ryang.2907 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I agree that Ike actually works best with slightly squishier units. Laguz Friend just isn't doing much on a tank, and works much better on physical glass cannons. I found success with Ike and Panette which is a very popular build simply for mitigating her weakness of low bulk and allowing her to reach high crit rates with Wrath.

    • @conorb.1901
      @conorb.1901 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Especially if you're playing on maddening where the ai will outright ignore any unit they have no chance of hitting or damaging

    • @ryang.2907
      @ryang.2907 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@conorb.1901 I actually find Jade better than Louis for that reason. Because she has worse defensive stats than him, she ironically tanks better than him thanks to having a more balanced spread of Def and Res. She can legitimately tank maddening enemies when engaged with Ike, unlike Louis who either dies to mages, or gets ignored by physical units.

    • @Smuggers.
      @Smuggers. ปีที่แล้ว

      He really does, he can bulk up squishier but high kill potential units to really get the most out of their power, especially ones you expect to take a hit anyways.
      He turns Panette into an entirely different unit than she'd be otherwise, but I'm curious who else and what other strats he enables as well.

    • @ryang.2907
      @ryang.2907 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smuggers. I know Kagetsu is good on everyone, but Ike works well with him too. High speed prevents him from getting doubled, he has passable bulk, and with a forged killing edge he can also turn into a crit machine with Wrath. Other than that, you can do Ike with Timerra and Diamant as well. Generally, it will work out okay as long as you don't put him on a thief or mage.

    • @Smuggers.
      @Smuggers. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryang.2907 Yeah, I think he'd take worse advantage of great aether and Ike's heavy weapons, but he'd definitely get a lot of crits and has the kind of bulk that I think ike could make tanky, especially when hard to double.
      I don't think it exactly plays to his strengths though, he could probably be pretty dodgy if you made him that way, so forcing him to eat every hit over a unit who'll take hits anyways seems like a loss of some sort.

  • @KarelPKerezman
    @KarelPKerezman ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a filthy casual I just stuck Tiki on Jean right from the get-go and didn't think about it much until I realized a number of chapters later that Jean was hitting stat caps all over the place and that he's simultaneously a dodge-tank and res-tank. You go, little man.

  • @xgxwills2857
    @xgxwills2857 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The one I ran the whole play through was Jean + Tiki. Needless to say, I never had one bad level up and Jean became borderline unkillable after a little bit of babysitting him for a few levels.

    • @deathblade32
      @deathblade32 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am running him as my healer still, but ran with Tiki until i got statsphere, then switched him into the three lords bracelet until Lyn was available(Yunaka had her until Corrin), but i now just send him + louis(IKE) to solo an area, Yunaka and Anna(Hector originally, switched to Soren, might switch to Cameria to get bonus with Corrin) as a second team, and everyone else just goes where more enemies are to get their scraps.

  • @AlexT7916
    @AlexT7916 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I readd somewhere that the way Tiki's ring works is by adding 15% to all class growth and that it also gets doubled by Jean personal skill , although I am not sure how true that is

    • @tagg580
      @tagg580 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I played my entire hard run with Tiki on Jean and I can at least confirm he is broken ass backwards. Whether that was because of Tiki or not idk, but he was maxing out his stats before chapter 24

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Jean doesn't double Tiki's growths, that I'm 100% sure about because even with 95% strength growth as a Berserker, I was missing some level ups there

    • @deathcon6261
      @deathcon6261 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Close. Jean has doubled class growths while Tiki just gives +15% to all growths, they work together but they don’t actually affect each other.

    • @drygnfyre
      @drygnfyre ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Starsphere just adds a flat +15% to the growth rates (combined personal/class). It is not affected by anything else, it will always be that flat bonus.

    • @cryguy0000
      @cryguy0000 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had no idea the rings even did that, that's neat. Do bond rings do the same thing?

  • @harrisonriggs8732
    @harrisonriggs8732 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ah. I completely misunderstood how his personal skill worked.
    I leveled him in martial monk for a while and then because he had a high Magic, I put him on the Mage path until like level 17 and now he's a Mage Knight.
    He's still an absolute monster paired with Soren. Just goes to show how good he is. You really can't go wrong with him

  • @eee-man9545
    @eee-man9545 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    For long time emblem fans this is a classic trope the creators make they give a unit a very low base with a ridiculous ability and it can become game breaking,
    As soon as I saw his personal skill I knew this was the unit they decided on but I chose to go with little Anna seeing a little girl carrying Ike’s weapons and using either is to damn funny lol

  • @gianghuynh9570
    @gianghuynh9570 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I found out that Great Aether will automatically taunt every enemy when you cast it because of the 100% get hit rate you put on yourself. So having someone with Lucina and Bonded Shield will help block most of the damage. The enemies only attack the Lucina unit if the Ike unit is surrounded and they cannot find a position to hit them, which is not likely to happen. This combo is my favourite to clean map and farm exp. It helps to have the unit using Lucina to have high avo so they don’t get targeted. Also helps to have Soren’s skill to force a unit to be targeted.

  • @sambosung350
    @sambosung350 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The mad lad rises I was waiting for a crazy build video or two given the semi limited slots. This was beautiful

  • @brandondodson2954
    @brandondodson2954 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is essentially the standard panette build if you're not running Lyn for speed taker tbh. I don't like committing Lyn to panette though, since you don't really need to double if you one tap everything, and once you hit vantage range speed is no longer an issue, whereas Lynn can shore up someone else that has a harder time doubling or avoiding doubles like Ivy. (Though I use her on Etie because I have a soft spot for her and she needs the help)

  • @geraldmarroquin4085
    @geraldmarroquin4085 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If you make Jean a Paladin he can do it all. Tanks every kind of hit (Magical or Physical) and has enough Speed to double most things

  • @bridgesbane7032
    @bridgesbane7032 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Saw a review, don't remember who, but they said Jean should be left on the bench because his weak starting stats. The moment I saw him and realized he is this game's Donnell, I realized they knew nothing about Fire Emblem.

    • @ButterKnight-mg7bg
      @ButterKnight-mg7bg ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair this is probably the first unit of that archetype that actually is viable in maddening. Donnel especially takes forever to snowball in a game notorious for snowballing every character.

    • @bridgesbane7032
      @bridgesbane7032 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@ButterKnight-mg7bg yeah, but Donny had a pot on his head. Soooooo

    • @falxblade1352
      @falxblade1352 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@ButterKnight 1000 he does? I only played lunatic once, and it took me the same ~10 levels as on hard to catch up.
      Mozu would probably suck on lunatic, especially conquest, and I can't say anything about Cyril, but I feel like Donny would clear second easily

    • @ButterKnight-mg7bg
      @ButterKnight-mg7bg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@falxblade1352 Sure donny barbarian can be cool after the 10 levels but robin solo is literally the easiest way to play that game which is why any character that cant immediately participate is considered not worth it. Strangely enough Mozu is considered more viable in conquest than birthright but shes bad in both (unless you have the route bonuses then giving her dread fighter and dragon herbs can just completely catch up on her join map)

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ross best boy.

  • @fromnaras
    @fromnaras ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I want to do this but it makes me so sad when he’s not a doctor healer like he wants to be

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +61

      He's being a doctor by practicing preventative medicine and protecting his allies from damage by killing all the enemies first!

    • @fromnaras
      @fromnaras ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LinkKing7 QAQ!!! Is there a certain dialogue he gives when he becomes a non-healer unit?

    • @stormnationex4145
      @stormnationex4145 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fromnaras "Now i can be a doctor and a fighter" something along those lines. lol

    • @maliciousheart
      @maliciousheart ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Heal and Kill rhyme. Close enough.

    • @happyduke99
      @happyduke99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well there is no need to heal when u can kill all ur enemies before they can hurt ya 😂

  • @jackmanleblanc2518
    @jackmanleblanc2518 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a subscription for me. This is cool. I look forward to any other builds you make.

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the family, and I'm glad you're looking forward to the coming videos!

  • @Fiestaknight29
    @Fiestaknight29 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Something I learned with pair up on my maddening run the AI will attack a unit if they can back up attack them as well even if they do 0 damage, I did this with my Jade and had a blast just letting her wall/distract problem fast units like sword masters and Griffin Knights on the last map

    • @Gamemaster-64
      @Gamemaster-64 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had a map with different people in range to be attacked, to my surprised they went for yunaka. I was basically laughing for an easy win(when it come to bosses that aren't alone most of the time I have no idea what to do.).

  • @jacklambert6453
    @jacklambert6453 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Quick correction to something here that I didn't see in the comments already:
    You should always, always use master seals to promote a unit before you 2nd seal. If you use the 2nd seal 1st, you have to spend 20 levels in a base class. In Jean's case, you spend 10 levels in monk and 10 levels in fighter before you can be a berserker. The promotion path would look like this:
    10 levels in Monk -> 2nd Seal to level 1 fighter -> 10 levels in fighter -> Master Seal to Berserker
    However, if you promote him at level 10 to an advanced class, you can 2nd seal him immediately to berserker as there is no level requirement for 2nd seal use once you are promoted. This would totally bypass the 10 levels he has to spend as a fighter and because engage moderates exp gains based off an internal level counter, he would actually gain exp faster as a level 1 berserker with this method. Promotion path would look like this:
    10 levels in Monk -> Master Seal to Martial Master -> (without levelling) 2nd Seal to Berserker.
    The change in growths would get him a 20% higher strength growth for the 10 levels he would have spent in fighter and 10% higher growths in HP and Build. It also gets him access to better weapons sooner and an extra point of movement which is nice>
    This tip is true for every character and not just Jean, so it's useful to know. Small tip for promoting aside, I really enjoyed the video! This is a funny build and it looks like it works great, especially if you get him some forges and engravings on those weapons. I bet a forged tomahawk would be incredibly rude here.

    • @nanashivii9237
      @nanashivii9237 ปีที่แล้ว

      At 5:39, he mentions why Jean is the exception to the rule of "promote first, reclass second". It has everything to do with Jean's Personal Skill Expertise, which doubles the growth rates of whatever class he is in.
      Therefore, if you're trying to optimize his build, it makes sense to reclass him into something that has beneficial growths since Jean joins at Lv1 and needs to gain those 9 Base class levels before promotion regardless.
      As you can see from the timestamp, he gains an average of 5 HP/2 Str/1 Dex/2 Spd/1 Bld over his default Monk class in that short stint in a Base class, making it more efficient to reclass before anything else. Not only that, he is more effective in the short term this way and doesn't end up with a bunch of redundant stats that could've gone into useful ones.

    • @ponyboy696
      @ponyboy696 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You don't have to train someone to level 10 to second seal them to a different base class. I don't know how you thought that.

    • @jaimereupert4247
      @jaimereupert4247 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You do need to second seal because most classes need you to be either level 10 or 20 in a different base class in order to re class into that class.

  • @Neucher
    @Neucher ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Jean is basically a must deploy on maddening

    • @claire6452
      @claire6452 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol

    • @nomercy4834
      @nomercy4834 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really, maddening is still easy without him

    • @musicarain4702
      @musicarain4702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nomercy4834 I wouldn't say maddening is easy unless you're very knowledgeable about how all the mechanics of the game work

    • @nomercy4834
      @nomercy4834 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MusicaRain then that's just you, it is easy in fact FE games as a whole are easy because it caters to the casuals, maddening is joke compared to a souls game or MMO like FF with extremes/savage/ultimate, don't get me wrong I still have fun with it but I wish the devs would stop thinking of its player base like a joke who can't handle harder difficulty

    • @lemonbread8019
      @lemonbread8019 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@nomercy4834 Bro did you seriously just compare a turn-based tactical RPG to an action RPG
      Also FFXIV savages would be the easiest shit ever if it were single player. The main difficulty of any MMORPG encounter is coordination with the other players.

  • @b3a5t89
    @b3a5t89 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Was literally about to ask if warrior would be more viable when you confirmed my thinking 😂

  • @alucard-jy8wh
    @alucard-jy8wh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn nice mad respect for builds that dont need dlc, i dont have the dlc so this is gonna help allot, new sub ty

  • @jaden149
    @jaden149 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    seems like a pretty fun build will probably try this out when ever i do maddening

  • @holycrapitsachicken
    @holycrapitsachicken ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If you want to make Jean something else but also have something similar to this that's better than Boucheron, Berserker Amber works well for this.
    Amber's Aspiring Hero skill makes him take way too many hits so having Ike's Laguz Friend completely nullify that demerit while also reaping the massive health growth of the Berserker class is definitely valuable. It lets him take advantage of the large +20 hit from Aspiring Hero to make the notoriously low hit rate axes actually smack them while also activating Aspiring Hero naturally since he's throwing himself into battle.
    While Amber's health growth pales in comparison to Boucheron and Jean at only a mere 95, his strength growth supplants both of them at 75 throwing in +2 to the Strength cap. Also, Boucheron sucks as a Berserker since he doesn't have high strength but rather has extremely high dexterity. That doesn't work well for Berserker since Berserker literally has the lowest dexterity cap in the game. Boucheron is better of switching to a Wyvern Knight cause of that since it's way too easy to cap out on dex if he stays as a Berserker. It should be a given, but you kinda want the highest strength growth for the highest strength cap and growth class in the game. Amber's stats are more suited to that, and his skill even works well for it.

  • @haloemblemproductions9954
    @haloemblemproductions9954 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made my Jean a Halberdier and equipped him with the Emblem Of Rivals bracelet, and boy he’s amazing! Before I gave him Brionac he was equipped with a killer lance, a Rivals Engraved Silver lance, and a spear, and he usual took out everything that stood in his way. But when I gave him Brionac he was a one man army.

  • @XellosNi
    @XellosNi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like Boucheron having his thunder stolen is becoming a reoccuring theme for the character.

  • @m.a.dmatt6689
    @m.a.dmatt6689 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was my exact reaction to Ike's Great Aether lol

  • @Smuggers.
    @Smuggers. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yep, this is very very similar to the Panette build I was running by the end of hard classic.
    I saw he had the potential to become something like this near the end of my hard playthrough, but by then my Panette was already like this.
    Though he doesn't get the benefit of her really high base strength and hp, and doesn't have the extra 10 crit and maybe some personal stat cap modifiers.
    In my case, I had +6 extra attack with axes as well, instead of vantage.
    Since I didn't have quite the group killing potential yours does with vantage/pair up I was using her for great aether, some longbow snipes (she was classed as warrior), and as a kill this unit button with the ~80-100% crit triple digit damage attacks she was getting.
    Nice to see other people finding things like this, though I think I'll be making my Jean a halberdier or maybe mage knight for cutting through defenses, since there's only one Ike.

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      The thing with Jean is that he catches up to the bases of every single unit in the game, including Pannette, and he eventually eclipses them, so that isn't the problem. Pannette has the advantage of the extra +10% crit that synergizes so well with this build otherwise.

  • @Oscar_Milde
    @Oscar_Milde ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "You're going to have to put up with it."
    Bold of you to assume I'm not watching with captions to spare my ears

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn, I didn't know my voice had that effect on people, that's sad...

    • @Oscar_Milde
      @Oscar_Milde ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LinkKing7 Not the voice, just the butchering of my boy's name

  • @ShirakoriMio
    @ShirakoriMio ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "We have an army!"
    "We have a pissed off med student. :) "

  • @eustacemcgoodboy9702
    @eustacemcgoodboy9702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ike is just good I think you put him on almost anyone and you're going to have a good time. I put Ike on Merrin as Griffin Knight with Hurricane Axe and also Geniality+ for ultra tank + flyer destruction.

  • @TigerMultiGun
    @TigerMultiGun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With tiki you can level up jean from 1 to 20 in one chapter, just trap a bowman put one that can't attack from that range and make jean heal him, it will grant him xp + refill fusion gauge allow to use the tiki special, with marth it grants you 30xp each time

  • @Vinylmelody1517
    @Vinylmelody1517 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well looks like I found my Jean build for my next playthrough

  • @bfmvbrass
    @bfmvbrass ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Most of yall didnt play on maddening CLEARLY. Ike is so damn good in maddening. Some chapters would be extra brutal without him. Easily one of the best emblems IMO

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Most people don't start with the highest difficulty yes, but usually they go back for a second run when they're more comfortable with the game

    • @kaidestinyz
      @kaidestinyz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LinkKing7 Yet here I am, on maddening classic on my first FE game, 1st playthrough. My friends dared me to go for it and ppl at reddit assured me that it's easily doable. Btw, does Jean's personal skill expertise just doubles class growths? Some website says it's 2x his personal growth or combined. I'm so confused.

    • @gokuby
      @gokuby ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaidestinyz Jean only doubles class growths, his personal growth is fixed. He also doesn't double Tikis growth boost, tho as explained in the video they are matching very well regardless.

  • @thelegacyofgaming2928
    @thelegacyofgaming2928 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ike once again taking over the protag role as best unit. Is anyone surprised?

  • @xVibra
    @xVibra ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Afaik every single character starts with 300 SP, unless there's specific exceptions.

  • @mrfathead915
    @mrfathead915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exactly how I set up my Panette. Was one of my best units in late game

  • @VangolaGear
    @VangolaGear ปีที่แล้ว +5

    12:02 yeah, Ike isn’t an Emblem for tanks. Tanks appreciate the mitigation but don’t particularly care because if they’re doing their job right they shouldn’t be taking much, if any, damage already. He is an emblem for an archetype called Bruisers. Bruisers are typically more durable than damage dealers but less durable than tanks and do more damage than tanks but do less than damage dealers (like nukers or DPS). These are characters like Diamant and Pennet.

    • @DemonRaticate
      @DemonRaticate ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which makes sense. In his original games Ike was the definition of a Lightning Bruiser. Fast, Strong, Tanky… he could do it all!

    • @daddysempaichan
      @daddysempaichan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basically characters like the High HP, low Defense Axe users in the series, characters who's tankyness stems from having enough HP to facetank everything instead of minimizing damage taken.

  • @rayreaves
    @rayreaves ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love hearing you mispronounce his name the whole video. But I LOVE this build. You're killing it with your vids my guy

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you like them my friend, thanks for the encouragement!

  • @TheRollingStone11
    @TheRollingStone11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Boucheron will actually be faster in ax classes thanks to his build advantage. That is assuming you want to use anything other than Iron and Hand axes.

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      Jean's double growths have him catching up to boucheron in the build department based off averages if you look at them again, and eventually Jean will CAP his build, like in my video

  • @TheGamersState
    @TheGamersState ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sombron: I have an army
    Alear: We have a Jean

  • @miller1308
    @miller1308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You got great videos dude! Just a tip if you want to improve the quality of vour videos even more:
    People want it simple, so if you would pack everthing important into a "checklist" at the end of the video or w/e it would be much appreciated, trust me!
    Cheers!

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did do a little recap at the end of the skill/build portion because I knew it might be too much, but I do like if people follow my thought process in general, otherwise they might be confused, so it's a bit of a trade off, but I'll keep that in mind!

  • @GomerJ
    @GomerJ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wish I knew this about Jean- I reclassed him as soon as I could but would’ve put more thought into it if I realized how the skill really worked. Will absolutely look at this guy differently on future playthroughs, thanks

  • @suenzhong7891
    @suenzhong7891 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my current playthrough Jean is a magic user because I reclassed Clanne into a crit beast sword unit. I would like to try this build in my next playthrough it looks fun

  • @AcousticHarmonia
    @AcousticHarmonia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a fellow content creator I felt obligated to correct the misinformation present in this video.
    Stat caps are based both off the class and the unit's maximum stat modifiers (MSMs); you take the maximum stats of the class and apply the MSMs of the unit (this is how it worked in Awakening/Fates as well), which you can find on SerenesForest under characters maximum stats, not that far off from where you found the maximum class stats you showed (which I imagine you assumed was the maximum stats regardless of unit since there were no MSMs in Three Houses).
    If we're going for the strongest possible build, we'd care a lot more about the MSMs than we would character growth rates, as MSMs affect what the cap of our potential is, whereas growths just affect how long it takes to get there. If you're at a characters maximum stats you'd never have to worry about growths ever again, which would render Jean's personal skill useless at that point, as if he is now the one character in the game with no personal skill. I would assume we're talking about maximum potential here considering the initial goal was to hit the HP cap and then this build spawned from that, so I'll be basing my analysis off of what is the strongest regardless of growths.
    Calling Jean "potentially the best unit in the game for every class" if we're talking purely from a maximum potential standpoint is just blatantly wrong, he's one of the worst actually. If we're talking about just doing the main game through and then putting it down, never trying to perfect any units, then sure, the argument can be made, but if we're talking the ceiling of potential regardless of the amount of grinding time to reach it, then it is false.
    All Jean is is the unit who can most *quickly* hit the maximum stats of that given class, but at the end of the day would actually be *worse* than almost any other unit in the game once those maximum stats are hit, as he essentially has no personal skill at that point whereas every other unit does. It's also worth noting that his MSMs are +2 Magic, -1 Dexterity, -1 Speed, +1 Luck, not exactly fantastic MSMs but alright enough if you put him into a Magic class, since he's gaining +2 to his maximum Magic but +-0 to his maximum Strength. This means his best final class is in a magic-based class, where he benefits from the +2. Putting him into a physical class instead just wastes his potential, considering you've now got a physical unit whose only change to stats they care about is -1 Dex, -1 Spd, +1 Lck, gross...
    Let's call this a -1.5 to stats we care about, -1 to Dex and Spd, and +1 Lck which is the least important stat in the game so I'm adding 0.5 instead of 1.
    Of the 36 characters in this game, and assuming we don't care about Magic MSMs because we're going for a purely physical class and treating Lck and 0.5, there are only 3 units in the game Jean can do better than (Celine, Citrinne, Pandreo, as most of their MSMs are in Magic). This means that 33/36 characters have a higher ceiling of potential in this build than Jean, or in other words 92% of the cast that's better at this build than him. "The MOST BROKEN Character in Fire Emblem Engage" you say...? It'd be fine if you specified this was for getting this setup online as soon as possible so you can use it for as much of the main story as you can, but since that isn't the case this really is just straight up misinformation.
    Anybody watching this video who wants the strongest possible builds regardless of grinding time because you want to take on things like the ultimate Tempest Trials, this is a pretty alright build you could go with, but please do not give it to Jean, give it to somebody else you feel is most fitting based off of 1) Maximum Stat Modifiers and 2) Personal Skill (though it's pretty hard to choose somebody worse than Jean for this to be fair)
    Other notes, yes Lineage from the Rivals can increase EXP growth by 1.2x, but it's just a worse version of a main game skill, being Byleth's Mentorship, which affects both the unit and any adjacent units (although it's 250SP as oppose to 150SP). And this isn't even a thing for this video specifically but just helping with Engage in general, but you mention Ike's Resolve+ has helped make your tank units even tankier, but there's an even better damage reducing alternative if we're talking about what skills to inherit, and that's Eirika's Gentility+. Resolve+ grants Def/Res +7 when under 75% HP, Gentility+ on the other hand reduces damage taken by 5. So take 7 less damage when under 75% HP, or 5 less damage always? I would argue Gentility+ is the far greater boon, and could only really see myself running Resolve+ on Timerra (and one other niche case unit) to boost Sandstorm damage as it's based off defence.
    Anyway, if you're reading this LinkKing, know that I do love getting to know fellow content creators, so feel free to reach out sometime if you'd like to talk Engage numbers, as crunching numbers of games like this is something I do. Ever since the release of Fates I've been making dedicated excel spreadsheets for each of the FE games I play to compile all relevant information so I can number crunch to figure out what seems to be ideal builds, and turn it into a resource for Fire Emblem fans to more easily visualize the possibilities themselves. I'm not yet done with my Engage sheet so it's not publicly released yet, I'd say I'm a bit more than halfway through, and because of the sheer amount of projects I take on I haven't had a chance to test out my builds properly in game yet, but if things work the way the math seems to imply I'd wager I have a fair few builds plotted out stronger than this. So let me know if ever you want to talk shop.

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao, you leave an absolutely obnoxious comment on my video to "correct my misinformation" when all you're doing is pointing out very minute details that don't matter in the grand scheme of things to try and one up my work and you want me to reach out to you to "talk shop"?
      I think you need to work on your sales pitch a bit more, maybe worry less about 1-2 stat variations and look at the big picture a bit more.

    • @AcousticHarmonia
      @AcousticHarmonia ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LinkKing7 Huh? The big picture? My guy you made an entire video about a character whose only selling point is that they're the fastest to hit their ceiling when they have one of the lowest ceilings in the game, that's about as far from big picture as you can possibly get. I hoped I could help you out, but I guess not everyone is capable of taking criticism, my mistake

  • @Nepu_Nep
    @Nepu_Nep ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Anna is currently breaking the world with 294 damage crits and 119 hp

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      How does she have 119 HP when 116 is the cap?

    • @Nepu_Nep
      @Nepu_Nep ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LinkKing7 double HP/LCK +10

  • @Locklen
    @Locklen ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang, that is one meaty Jean. Still not sure where I wanna take him when I do my maddening run, but this is tempting.

  • @mysetlist2118
    @mysetlist2118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea Jean is a beast kept him as a martial master though I’ll try this out when dlc 4 comes out with the new maps as of now done with engage until then oddly enough I put tiki emblem on him to without thinking just thought it be fun having the kid transform into a dragon

  • @UniGya
    @UniGya 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh yeah, this was pretty much my first thought when seeing the Ike ring. Not on Jean, I actually kept him as a martial master because I thought it was fun to see him kick the crap out of enemies and he’s one of the few units who can pull off the weird way Arts scale for damage, but I slapped it immediately on Panette and I would warp her into clumps of enemies with a great axe and watch her delete them like it was nothing

  • @dexteradams6515
    @dexteradams6515 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone new to Fire Emblem, and someone who just does not understand the numbers Im glad this explains why this 12 year old doctors apprentice became the keystone to my army.
    Seriously I had no idea why he felt so powerful. I babied him because he was my healer, made a mistake and a few enemies got too close. Jean proceed to dodge and nuke all challengers. I guess that double stat growth kicked in while I was not paying attention

    • @psychicbeagle5106
      @psychicbeagle5106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bandits broke into the hospital. The harmacist broke them back.

  • @veiotisligon9140
    @veiotisligon9140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy birthday to me Link posted a video great day so far!

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy birthday friend, I hope you had a fantastic one!

  • @masterdreamer7848
    @masterdreamer7848 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made my Jean a Swordmaster with the Lyn Ring and gave him a Brave Sword. He has so much speed, that with the Brave Sword and Alacrity, he can attack 4 times before the enemy can even attack once.

  • @sosspeedy
    @sosspeedy ปีที่แล้ว

    I literaly found this video, when I was contemplainting the idea of Jean Berserker and type those two words in youtube search :D 60 str growth rate is bonkers.

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      The like minded people must be brought together, it's 80 though, not 60, at least when he reaches berserker!

    • @sosspeedy
      @sosspeedy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LinkKing7 Yep, I was counting only berserker rates with Jean's passive, without Jean's growth rates. :)

    • @sosspeedy
      @sosspeedy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LinkKing7 Also I gotta question. What are your thoughts on Céline sword build, I was just checking her growth rates and her Str growth are Higher than her Mag and she also has quite decent res and luck, Im thinking about turning her into some kind of mage slayer. :D

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sosspeedy It definitely works, she's pretty flexible in what you can do with her tbh!

  • @IsuKen
    @IsuKen ปีที่แล้ว

    That intro got me like "Yo Jean, drop that beat!"

  • @aced3657
    @aced3657 ปีที่แล้ว

    *cue in giorno piano theme*
    JeanJean!
    *Piano theme intensifies*
    Radiant Dawn!

  • @spencer4514
    @spencer4514 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I made my Jean a spear paladin with Ike emblem. I had starsphere for the extra stat growth and he's now my powerhouse. He's more tanky than a general at times

  • @roberthowell3609
    @roberthowell3609 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're a mad genius

  • @JeremiahGosdin
    @JeremiahGosdin ปีที่แล้ว

    Now this is some Engaging content!!

  • @NewVictus666
    @NewVictus666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your my new God now!!!!

  • @destinyshand2049
    @destinyshand2049 ปีที่แล้ว

    And now with Veronica, using those seraph robes makes him even more busted

  • @Axel-wo6qu
    @Axel-wo6qu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm curious how strong you can make a martial artist, since the arts have the unique ability to strike twice, they could regain their engage meter very quickly, on top of doing lots of damage when they get more hits in normally.

  • @bladecommando
    @bladecommando ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thought; Micaiah ring during leveling up just to burn staves for exp so he needs less babying

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can do that if you're not using Tiki for the bonuses yes, otherwise, it's really not too bad if you let him have the finishing blow and help with chain attacks, kills with those count for him

  • @scouttengu
    @scouttengu ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Alright... Who's gonna tell him how to pronounce the name right?

    • @EthanPugel32
      @EthanPugel32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Came right to the comments after I heard how he said it lol

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      I know how to pronounce it, I even mentioned it in the video itselffff

  • @d.d.vignali4419
    @d.d.vignali4419 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jean was my most OP Unit, I wasn't even trying. This was in maddening.

  • @jamesc7894
    @jamesc7894 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Jean’s duel quotes. And then he murders people.

  • @christopherrobinson3857
    @christopherrobinson3857 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll try this on my second playthrough.

  • @WilldaBeast999909
    @WilldaBeast999909 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your stuff

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks friend!

  • @WGigahertz
    @WGigahertz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man, great build! I'm enjoying myself a lot with it 🤣
    Was wondering, have you tried it inheriting the double counter from Hector ? Was wondering about it...

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      That can work, but you'd lose out on pair up or vantage, and honestly, he doesn't really need it because he one shots most enemies in the game anyways!

  • @archellothewolf2083
    @archellothewolf2083 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you're willing to put the time in, the weak lil' healer is almost always the most OP character in any given Fire Emblem game.

  • @VirgoVyrus
    @VirgoVyrus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You pronouncing Jean as gene is a hate crime lol. Great build 👏🏻👌🏼

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My bad, but at least I admitted it!

    • @jaimereupert4247
      @jaimereupert4247 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's how they pronounce it in game. 😂

  • @TheFrio937
    @TheFrio937 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damian with Sol, Holdout +++ and Vantage is kinda fun

  • @Satawolf
    @Satawolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every trainee since their introduction has always been a beast unit since time in memoriam.

  • @dry90125
    @dry90125 ปีที่แล้ว

    Breaking news; Donnel’s British Cousin carry’s on his legacy of mauling the entire endgame with nothing but a massive fuck-you axe and growth rates

  • @MidnaNightengale
    @MidnaNightengale ปีที่แล้ว

    That thumbnail looks like Jean's about to say: "Star Platinum! Za Warudo!"

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      My artist did a phenomenal job with it!

    • @MidnaNightengale
      @MidnaNightengale ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LinkKing7 Yes, it's very nice!

  • @syrusmarks1
    @syrusmarks1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Normally, i dont care for this stuff. I watch it just to see what happens. I also simultaneously get anxity that i "built my character wrong." You're gental reinforcing of "maddening difficulty" helped remind me im playing on a lower difficulty, im doing just fine right now, (my Jean practicly one hits on normal, as mage, with soren) and i should enjoy the show.

  • @AirshipFury
    @AirshipFury ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't read the entire title before clicking the video and immediately thought you were gonna call out Jean.
    Side note, I remember being subbed to your channel back when 3H came out, but for some reason I was un-subbed?

  • @jaimereupert4247
    @jaimereupert4247 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:12-10:15 where did you level at? I'm on Maddening at chapter 14 (the one where you fight the hounds and get Hortensia after beating it.)

  • @dullededge1395
    @dullededge1395 ปีที่แล้ว

    this whole time i thought i his skill doubled his base growths like cyril

  • @jessieslootstash
    @jessieslootstash ปีที่แล้ว

    "punches like a wet noodle" love it lol

  • @kingbaku5092
    @kingbaku5092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jean is tailored to be a god

  • @MNtoCali
    @MNtoCali ปีที่แล้ว

    So you could do the same thing with Pannete without the investment… no sealing required and much less babying. I don’t see the point of berserker Jean when there’s Panette ready to go or Saphir ready to reclass

  • @JeedthejetDoe
    @JeedthejetDoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this

  • @TheSuperCasual2914
    @TheSuperCasual2914 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everybody gangsta until a little boy executes a Great Aether against 10 people at point blank

  • @RaidenKaiser
    @RaidenKaiser ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly underestimated jade, 2nd playthrough and she might actually top Louis so far lol.

  • @SaramadHill
    @SaramadHill ปีที่แล้ว

    Turning a pharmacist into a harmacist

  • @reubenbailey7491
    @reubenbailey7491 ปีที่แล้ว

    *leans* *forward*
    This'll be good

  • @ikaros6633
    @ikaros6633 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly give him star sphere and find whatever class you want to build

  • @psychicbeagle5106
    @psychicbeagle5106 ปีที่แล้ว

    I took Laguz Friend to be cover for a knight's generally weaker resistance. Even Jade, who has a pretty decent res for her class, will be utterly bopped by a doubling mage in the late game. LF let her stuff those Bolg tomes back down the nerds' craws with a (glaring lack of) quickness.

  • @ArcHourGaming
    @ArcHourGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    So he's the Donny of this game

  • @karuiGaming
    @karuiGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya know a lot of the nitpicky problems here can be solved by Emblem Hector (...I think ). I would actually like a follow up with him.

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว

      Emblem Hector works, but you lose out on a lot of Ike's nice skills like Wrath and Great Aether to obliterate and entire chunk of enemies in one turn.

  • @jaimereupert4247
    @jaimereupert4247 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like i always say, everyone is good, if you actually use them.

  • @jhon1406
    @jhon1406 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jean just starts so low that I struggle to make him work

    • @shadyshyguy4058
      @shadyshyguy4058 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give him a ring and it can get same kills for exp. If you have the DLC the 3 hauses bracelet is pretty good for him early. It gives extra exp, and he can get some kills from safe distance with the bow combat art.

  • @Hiya8partyz
    @Hiya8partyz ปีที่แล้ว

    Panette’s been real quiet ever since this dropped

  • @apothecary1725
    @apothecary1725 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made mine a high priest and he's got level-ten bonds with all the other 6 Rings not only can he use magic in fisticuffs but he can heal himself with his own staffs and he has that ability where if someone uses a weapon he can counter by picking the best weapon against there watching this little kid punch armored units been dodging crazy then I gave him a scroll with that seal that gives him avoid 40 +In for a level and mine up I used the rings ability ultimate sacrifice cuz it levels them up buy 1 each time it's used and heals all the other team but you got to let it run out and then run over to a blue circle to re fill it fast

  • @PokeDragoKnite
    @PokeDragoKnite ปีที่แล้ว

    0:00 fire beat lmao

    • @LinkKing7
      @LinkKing7  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now I just need someone to remix it for me and I'll rap over it for CONTENT

  • @tzuhan
    @tzuhan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since FE Awakening, villagers with the good growth skill are always the most broken characters in the FE series. It’s a promise

  • @Brelicity
    @Brelicity ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still on my first playthru and I've almost lost all my heroes. The only champions who have been with me since early game are my boy Louis, Carminn, and Yunaka.

  • @elpanda7789
    @elpanda7789 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jean apretiation, let's go