Coming back after a couple of days to add a comment. This concept has stuck with me since I watched this video. Now that I’ve practiced it several times on my own table, I have found a variation I am comfortable with. I might have to make a video. Giving credit where credit is due, of course. Good job!!
I dont understand your methode of laying odds. For instance, if your come bet is a 6 or an 8 you lay 20 in odds on a 15 come. I dont get the math. Thank you
@@wagermethis really appreciate all the work you do for the craps community. This using the DP and the come bet is probably the best strategy that I’ve seen. Are u in agreement to go ahead and place a wager on the “any Red” for the come out roll? I would rather be down just $25 going into the roll rather than $100 on the DP. I know you could use the lay 10 or 4 but $25 down sounds better than either $100 or $200 from the come out roll. Thank you again for all your time and effort in helping the craps community.
I really like the idea of the Come Bet. I ran a continuous come bet. Once I got max odds on a number, I doubled my come bet so I could keep increasing the odds. I kept raising my odds by either $25 or $30 as appropriate. I started with $270 across without the point and a $200 DP Bet. Layed odds on the DP. Reduce the odds with the first couple hits.
Jacob, love this method with the come bet. I did take it in the shorts a handful of times in the come out roll so I decided to put $25 down on any Red for the come out roll and that seemed to work really well. I would rather be down $25 than a $100 to start out. Looking forward to using this method more in the future
Thanks Jacob, I have been starting to incorporate the Come bet in my version of the hybrid 6-7-8 and it helps just like you demonstrated here. I haven’t used the Come bets from the start, just after I have regressed the initial place bets and taken off the odds on the DP, but I may now trial using the Come from the start. When I reduce my exposure on the point, I place the point, rather than reduce the DP bet, this gives the same result on the 7, but a better result if the point is hit. Cheers. Rob
I've been following your 6.7.8 strategy for a while now. There are things I like and there are things iI dislike. I like the fact that you're not making any bad bets (1.35 don't and 1.51 six and eight.) I absolutely cringe when you play the iron cross version. Maybe it's your layout. If you had a double/triple field, I'd probably be more tolerant of it. I can see where this would be profitable on choppy tables. Otherwise, I find it too grindy for my taste. It doesn't pay you enough to take advantage of a cold table and when you get a hot one, you are constantly getting knocked off the DP. It gets even more grindy when you add the field bet. The thing I don't like is you constantly have one side working against the other. While this does provide a hedge, it restricts profits. If you're going to play the DP, I believe you need to lay odds in order to offset your come out loses. Once you get past the come out roll, you are really hoping for a PSO - even if you have a DC up.The six and eight place bets are the best you can make, but I don't believe that you should make any place bets unless you intend to press and or regress. That's kinda the point (pun intended.) I'm fine with the DP, but you should lay odds. I'm not saying that you need to max them out. It's great when you can, but you do have bankroll management to consider. Maybe a lower DP investment with max odds? I would also prefer to see a come bet or two here to a place bet to take advantage of the PSO and the PSO+1. I would also take max odds with the come bets if I could afford it.
Its all about getting past the come out roll on the DP. You have the advantage once that happens. So much so that the casinos usually will let you remove a DP “after” you have established a point…
I usually don't make a change I progress the Don't pass. I know there are times that you'll hit a lot of them But the huge majority the time you won't hit any of them. There's no strategy that has no risk. This is just the risk of the strategy
are thoose come bets on the 4 and 10 ,,,,,, this looks great but its confusing , i am relatively new and like the dont come bet / are there any other videos you have using the same exact strategy that are easier to follow . your losing your place bet when the 7 hits is all i can tell lol
Really liking this running the 'Light-side' action through the Come after place bets go up. Your math balancing win amounts to exposure is spot on. Thank you Question: Do you ever run the 7 covering Don't bet through the DC? Just a thought, after seeing so many Come-out 7's during my last live session.
Coming back after a couple of days to add a comment. This concept has stuck with me since I watched this video.
Now that I’ve practiced it several times on my own table, I have found a variation I am comfortable with. I might have to make a video. Giving credit where credit is due, of course. Good job!!
Thanks bro
Chuckin Please explain your variation here. Thanks!
Honestly it’s been a year since this video, I have no idea. 😂
I really like this strategy. But I’m having trouble keeping up with how much to bet .
When you place the numbers Effectively, you do not have to hit them again. It's as though you've hit them and had an opportunity to press.
Love it.
As an aside do u recommend a continuous ComeBet strategy on Crapless? Of course not 678 just betting across and attacking the board.
Your breakdowns are more useful experience than losing money on a real table lol
I dont understand your methode of laying odds. For instance, if your come bet is a 6 or an 8 you lay 20 in odds on a 15 come. I dont get the math. Thank you
It's just about staying at a certain risk per bet.
Great video, similar to my current strategy hedging the DP with the come. How do you know how much to lay on the DP each time?
You never fail !
I fail often. But the 678 is very consistent
Jacob, could you show the same strategy but with $320 across minus the point?
Yeah I can do that
@@wagermethis really appreciate all the work you do for the craps community. This using the DP and the come bet is probably the best strategy that I’ve seen. Are u in agreement to go ahead and place a wager on the “any Red” for the come out roll? I would rather be down just $25 going into the roll rather than $100 on the DP. I know you could use the lay 10 or 4 but $25 down sounds better than either $100 or $200 from the come out roll. Thank you again for all your time and effort in helping the craps community.
@@randywinfield5004 Sure if the hedge makes you feel more comfortable then do it. I just dont do it because I chase my DP losers
I really like the idea of the Come Bet. I ran a continuous come bet. Once I got max odds on a number, I doubled my come bet so I could keep increasing the odds. I kept raising my odds by either $25 or $30 as appropriate. I started with $270 across without the point and a $200 DP Bet. Layed odds on the DP. Reduce the odds with the first couple hits.
Jacob, love this method with the come bet. I did take it in the shorts a handful of times in the come out roll so I decided to put $25 down on any Red for the come out roll and that seemed to work really well. I would rather be down $25 than a $100 to start out. Looking forward to using this method more in the future
I did the same except $20 any 7 on come ouand placed $20 across on all points no come bets
That 6 come get shoulda come down after you hit it towards the end of the video. At 15:24. Confused me for a second
what happens when they random hits the point - lose it all?
You can definitely hit points from the dont and lose, so I'm not sure what your asking
ahh i saw that ... lose the dont so hopefully they dont hit the point
Thanks Jacob, I have been starting to incorporate the Come bet in my version of the hybrid 6-7-8 and it helps just like you demonstrated here. I haven’t used the Come bets from the start, just after I have regressed the initial place bets and taken off the odds on the DP, but I may now trial using the Come from the start. When I reduce my exposure on the point, I place the point, rather than reduce the DP bet, this gives the same result on the 7, but a better result if the point is hit. Cheers. Rob
Gaynor please explain further what your strategy is.
I've been following your 6.7.8 strategy for a while now. There are things I like and there are things iI dislike. I like the fact that you're not making any bad bets (1.35 don't and 1.51 six and eight.) I absolutely cringe when you play the iron cross version. Maybe it's your layout. If you had a double/triple field, I'd probably be more tolerant of it. I can see where this would be profitable on choppy tables. Otherwise, I find it too grindy for my taste. It doesn't pay you enough to take advantage of a cold table and when you get a hot one, you are constantly getting knocked off the DP. It gets even more grindy when you add the field bet. The thing I don't like is you constantly have one side working against the other. While this does provide a hedge, it restricts profits. If you're going to play the DP, I believe you need to lay odds in order to offset your come out loses. Once you get past the come out roll, you are really hoping for a PSO - even if you have a DC up.The six and eight place bets are the best you can make, but I don't believe that you should make any place bets unless you intend to press and or regress. That's kinda the point (pun intended.) I'm fine with the DP, but you should lay odds. I'm not saying that you need to max them out. It's great when you can, but you do have bankroll management to consider. Maybe a lower DP investment with max odds? I would also prefer to see a come bet or two here to a place bet to take advantage of the PSO and the PSO+1. I would also take max odds with the come bets if I could afford it.
I’d like to try $28 lay on 4 and $28 lay on 10, and $4 each on Hard 4&10.
Is that worth doing?
Sure, the odds are what you would like just fit them in the free play
The only real problem I see is having the 7 pop up on the Come Out and working . Then you get hammered .that
Your that go to guy my friend🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks
Seems like the risk of being on during the come out has much more risk than reward when playing the don't
Its all about getting past the come out roll on the DP. You have the advantage once that happens. So much so that the casinos usually will let you remove a DP “after” you have established a point…
I dig it, this one is a keeper!
I like it....but then again I like almost all of your strategies!
How many comeout hits do you take before making a change?
I usually don't make a change I progress the Don't pass. I know there are times that you'll hit a lot of them But the huge majority the time you won't hit any of them. There's no strategy that has no risk. This is just the risk of the strategy
@@wagermethis I like the strategy. I play OHCM some.....Have you ever thought about Laying the 4 or 10 just for the comeout for protection?
@@EastCoastCraps yeah, I just dont worry about protecting the Dont. I have done it and not done it, from my experience it's not necessary
are thoose come bets on the 4 and 10 ,,,,,, this looks great but its confusing ,
i am relatively new and like the dont come bet / are there any other videos you have using the same exact strategy that are easier to follow .
your losing your place bet when the 7 hits is all i can tell lol
THX FOR ANOTHER SOLID VIDEO!! 🎲 🎲
Why not just put more on the don’t in the beginning
Sure, but the comeout is the hardest part of the strategy
random produces more sevens than when i throw controlled setting the dice.
What I would do is
$100 Don't Pass
$20 any 7 on come out roll
$20 across on all points
No Comes
Just take your winings
Solid
Big risk on come out roll
At 7:20 you paid the six out of your own money
Yeah I mess up sometimes. Dealing, talking and playing is hard
Hey Man...!!!
Really liking this running the 'Light-side' action through the Come after place bets go up.
Your math balancing win amounts to exposure is spot on. Thank you
Question:
Do you ever run the 7 covering Don't bet through the DC?
Just a thought, after seeing so many Come-out 7's during my last live session.
Sure.
i wont bet on random shooters and if i do its minimum
Lol. I understand that
Your doomed if a 7 or 3 come out roll on the dont or the point hits quick
Well you can say that about any strategy. Theres always a way to "Doom" them
This is a nice strategy for when the tables are cold too because a lot of times the 7 comes quick.