Is Kratos the God of Death? God of War Theory
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Is Kratos the God of War, or something more? Can Kratos die or is he truly immortal? In this video I will discuss my theory on Kratos' immortality. What do you think? Leave your best theory in the comments below!
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Then, why can Kratos die during gameplay?
@@paulmoore4653 for the game
@@paulmoore4653 bruh
Kuba is dying to see the role of the gods of higher existence in the god of war games isn't he?
that's why he linked 'higher existence and kratos role as the god of death' out of nowhere.
But santa monica isn't giving him.
I really want to see them aswell, but I am getting a gut feeling they might have abandoned it (says who was really interested in them)
Cory is off working on another IP
Atreus broke the mask (which might be nothing but a macguffin)
The devs want to think its some higher existence related shit but it isn't actually.
I hope I am proved wrong totally tho in whatever next game they release.
Did you notice the floating mask in GOW 2018 right before Kratos & Atreus find the Unity Stone? When Atreus shoots his arrow at it, it emits a green light just like the wooden mask in Ragnarok.
Do you think there could be a connection? @KaptainKuba
“Why can’t Kratos die?”
Me who died 20+ times from both Sigrún and Gná:
absolute facts
Fax
Only 20??
@@XxxTohot4youxxX I was always good at these boss fights, when I replayed GoW18 on GMGoW after I hadn’t played since Ragnarök released (serval months) and I beat Sigrún first try, mostly from one pommel, the Mistbourn, quite op imo. Gná was harder, took maybe 10 try’s to beat her, but adding up all the other times I died to these two is 20+.
20 times 50
This gives the “Ghost of Sparta” nickname a more interesting meaning.
STOP
Why
No no! It actually makes sense to called “Ghost of Sparta”, Kratos is a ghost, just like the Grim reaper.
No not you I was talking to @ginna-rm9if
@@Meme-vx5nx Me too
As Ares said it in the first game. "You will become Death itself!" When GoW 3 came out, I read somewhere that Cory's idea for the third game would have been Kratos becoming Death in the end. Imagine him with a big Death's Scythe weapon.
Yes he showed both of those scenes in the video
It was implied from the beginning that Kratos will become death itself the bringer of demise
Somebody already imagined that, made the game out of that, and called it "Dante's Inferno"
@@CoolSaver Oh, I love Dante's Inferno. I wish there would be a sequel to that game.
A weapon specific to death. Reminds me about Claws of Hades
He died in the first 3 games multiple times
I think it's more accurate to ask why he can't STAY dead. He's died at least five times. The afterlife just can't seem to hold onto him.
Can we not agree your not dead until your dead .
@@memo5230 Thor certainly thinks so. Cause he did, in fact, kill Kratos. He just brought him back with Mjolnir. Which is something he can do. Tho mostly he used that trick on goats.
@@gilbertotabares8196thor did not kill kratos kratos passed out
@@arhl.wAccording to an earlier script, Kratos was to die against Thor, and similarly to the previous games, come back and find that a long period of time passed. I guess they kept it in the game to troll the players a bit.
@@FabulosoSpray I'll accept that. Still cool seeing Thor jumpstart a guys heart like that.
Very first scene in God of War 1 also has a choir literally singing the words "Kratos, Thanatos" literally singing about Kratos being the bringer of death as he stands at the cliff overlooking the agean sea. That's foreshadowing for ya 💀
Hey you're absolutely right!
No, thanatos means death so the choir implies that Kratos is about to die, fitting given that he attempts suicide
@@theotheagendashill818No. Use your deep thinking skills. It's right in front of you.
Hm.... the translation says otherwhise. Where did you see this?
i always thought it said "kratos, deimos"
"Death, the destroyer of worlds" is the title given to Kratos. And this is in reference to one of the scientists who made the Atomic Bomb in a famous interview these were his words after he learned of the destruction caused by his creation " I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds".
Who in turn was citing what the god Vishnu said in the bhavagad gita
@Matt-vh2ci I was unaware of that part, thank you.
Oppenheimer
Yes this is the curse his mother talked about in god of war 3 all who get near him suffer or die his wife, child, daughter, mother, brother, Orkos, the last spartan and all of sparta, the woman in Athens, Pandora, Faye, Atreus, Freya, Brok, and Thor all died or suffered either by Kratos' hands or by simply being close to him by showing any sign of love or affection towards him or him showing love and affection to others
why Thor is in that list lol, and why Athena is not in the list lol because she came back?
@@flippednormals297 I put Thor because at the end he and Kratos shared a moment but Thor immediately got killed by Odin and I forgot about Athena lol
@@HouseofRedWine oh,
yeah Athena suffered the same "love this man and die" scenario
In an old interview Cory said Athena had some affection and love for him which she was conflicted about.
I think that's why even after he went against Zeus she couldn't turn against Kratos, and died because she couldn't decide between Zeus and Kratos.
@@HouseofRedWineit's was barley a moment it was more of a I don't want my kid to live in a messed up world and neither do you for yours. I'd say mutual agreement thor didn't respect or care for kratos but cared for thrud
@@flippednormals297love this man in a brother sister way yes?
I doubt the "Higher Powers" were upset with Kratos for not killing Thor; the deaths that happen around him aren't always direct acts of conscious violence done by him. Though Kratos spares Thor, Odin ends up killing him pretty much immediately after anyway, so Kratos still, in a way, brought death to Thor. Overall, very interesting theory, and something that could potentially serve as a plot point in upcoming games. Nice work 👍
I think the angle they are trying to go with is that Kratos is the God of Hope. By taking down all the various Pantheons that causes suffering, he brings hope and renevel to the people.
I feel like when Hercule’s said “claim my throne” maybe there’s a ritual in order to become the god of that specific sort. But since Kratos never did that, theoretically I guess that makes him just a Death God Killer
He did hence how he became more powerful after killing Ares
@@newhybrid101 Thats not Percy Jackson here
@@newhybrid101 No he became more powerful after whatever powers were subsequently bestowed upon him after becoming the god of war
This is the best theory video i've seen from you. Absolutely incredible work Kuba.
That's one of the dopest theories. Ngl. Keep this up Kub, can't wait to hear more theories.
Take care.
I think ragnorak Valhalla gives us the actual answer at the end: Kratos is a god of hope. He embodies it in all of what he has done, the good and the bad points of hope. Hope can pull you out of the deepest pit, and pull you right into one, depending on what you are hoping on and how you use it. Hope can destroy worlds and save them. It starts wars and finishes them. Lastly, I also think kratos being unable to die is due to this little classic line: “hope never truly dies.”
The reason why he’s able to kill Thantos it’s because he’s using the Blades of Chaos, it was explained in ragnarok that it is a primordial weapon and possibly contains a primordial fire, which is far older than the greek gods. Old as Chaos. Its source is not bound in its birthplace, the reason why Kratos is able to use it in whatever place he goes.
Your videos keep getting better and better kuba amazing theory
Wouldn’t that mean he is also the god of souls, sea 🌊, Olympus, strength, speed, the sun 🌞, wisdom, war, time, foresight, invulnerability, wind 🌬️, death, hope, lightning, and hands 🙌.
……he’s really the god killer.
No, because chias happened when they died. Nothing happened when Kratos killed death. Cause he is the real God of Death.
This is a very good essay that actually brings something fresh to the table, really good job you've made. Congrats.
That also will explain why he is so powerful, since Thanatos is consider to be the most powerful god in all GOW series
Trust me, I feel you. Sometimes I look at snacks, black out, and they're gone.
"Why can't Kratos die?"
The man has killed more than 2 death related gods and deities in the Greek saga.
Also remember what ares said when he killed his family "now youll become even stronger, you will become death itself"
2:23, here's a theory. You just showed a clip where Zeus said that Kratos became: "Death, the destroyer of Worlds." This is extremely clearly a refrence to Openheimer's famous quote: "Now I'm become death, destroyer of worlds." But, the thing to note is that, that quote that Openheimer used was from The Baghvat Gita. A Hindu Scripture. This either means 3 things.
1. Nothing
2. Every God of death is the same, which is a bit strange, since Vishnu, the god who said that quote isn't the god of death, he is quite the opposite, because he's the god of preservation of life (in the context of the quote, he even tried to perserve life). But all hindu gods are actually the same, so that's why the existence of hinduisme in the God of War Universe really messes with the theory of every speciality god being the same.
3. Zeus knows about the Hindu pantheon and that's why he said he used the quote, because Kratos now has the same powers and duties as every God of Death (most likely)
More people should mention the background music, it’s pandora’s song from GOW 3
Glad to see another GOW theory hopefully more to come 🙌🏼 but completely unrelated comment .. imagine GOW3 but ran on todays GOW engine and camera movement ? i thinj game of the year easily.
Now he is Death and Life. An "Archangel" of Hope, Mortal and Death. The Judge, Jury and Executioner. Basically hasn't stopped being death but he is also Life (Hades being god of the Underworld and His Wife being goddess of the Afterlife) . Man hasn't broken fate he is it......
this explains why kratos even in the new gows he is constantly killing everything gods monsters animals everything even deaths he could prevent he didnt
"The Hands Of Death Could Not Defeat Me, The Sisters Of Fate Could Not Hold Me. And You Will Not Live To See The End Of This Day!" - Kratos GOW III
- Pretty accurate For a God of Death -
That went so off the rails, so fast
That makes kratos fight with bear Atreus in God of war Ragnarok alot more interesting as well
Well death does fallow him wherever he goes
I think kratos has some time manipulation abilities too. He can cheat death by repeating fights until he wins.
God of Hope, more like. Everything and everyone around him either gets a noble or twisted feeling of hope towards something or someone when he's near. He himself had ultimate hope that he can pull off deicide against the Greek gods, and then ultimate hope that he changed into an independent monster in the Norse realms. And that hope everyone's feeling for something that won't benefit Kratos or his allies and friends, he just takes away. Violently.
After fighting Hades for the first time back in 2011, I speculated for every god Kratos slays, he doesn't just get their weapons, but gets their godhood. Ex: He becomes the new god of the underworld when Hades died, then the god of speed as Hermes died, then all leading up to becoming essentially the god of gods when defeating Zeus.
Also because he devoured hades’s soul literally
@@lightmohamed5700he still has it in himself
@@RossoNero1987 yup
8:33
if this theory is correct (which I assume so) Thor's death is on Kratos too. even by showing mercy and letting Thor stay alive, he died by the hands of he's own father. he may not directly killed him but he had brought the death; by proving that Thor is no longer useful to Odin.
Kratos didn't kill him so his blood ain't stained on Kratos hands
I have a theory that kratos is actually Saint Michael, the general of the army of God. I can’t get into all the details but if you think about how St michael is depicted in every major religion in the same way…he gives Kratos vibes.
I took what Hercules said to mean that he wanted to be rewarded by becoming the next God of war for killing Kratos, just like Kraros had in the first game for killing Ares. I assumed any deed could be worthy of being made the god of war, but only killing the current one opens up the job role.
Also in GOW 2 with the Easter egg
That would explain why he got sick but there is also another theory that atress is possessed because he doesn't remember killing Thor's son I believe it was the god of mischief Loki that took over in that time OR IT WAS JUST HIS rage
In my opinion, the theory is an interesting one. However, a few things come to mind. If killing a god gives one the mantle of that deity, would Kratos not be the God of Oceans, God of Light, God of Dreams, and many more? Unless the implication is that he takes the role of the last god he killed, which wouldn't be death. Also, I think the idea of "he can't die because he is death" and "he can't stay dead" are wholly different, as Kratos has died several times (even once in Ragnarök. He, in my view, aligns more like a being of fate than death, because its implied through dialogue just being a god (in and of itself) brings upon death to those around you.
There are two primordial forces that cannot die within God of war
One indeed is death. The other is "hope" or exactly what resides within him
Kaptain did you know that you can play ghost of Sparta and chains of olympis on your phone I was skeptical about it and it actually works quite well on my phone it's in the app store and it's so cool
I guess I'll check it out
I thought we all knew this tho…
He is the “Fallen God” for a reason
Kuba, you've done it again. My favorite video you've done on god of war.
I mean theoretically, if the whole mutiny thing is real, kratos is effectively most of the greek pantheon through that clause, he took a pantheon and made it mono-theistic
the beginning is a very compelling argument, but i question if it means thanatos wasnt the god of death, it seems like kratos via killing him has litterally TAKEN his title as death, it could be in killing him thanatos looses his power or just that death can die
this has flipped the thoughts.
throughout the series, Kratos demanded release which was denied multiple times.
he got irritated by the gods for deceiving him for so long which made him accept his nature, so after learning about hope, he would return to his previous request to demand release again but by denying his nature.
"Death can have me when it earns me.
And I am it."
And all this time we were indeed playing with the 'ghost of Sparta'.
Amazing video
Thank you brother
Awesome theory with some killer supporting evidence. I approve
The reason kratos didn't go back to his family is cause he knew it was a cannon event
Now we have a cool reason why he called the "Ghost of Sparta"
New theory for me is Atreus is death. Due to Kratos bed story about death. And his glance to Atreus when he fell asleep. Then how Atreus is able to harvest souls. Kratos in his story may be talking about Atreus as death because of the olympian god myth of sons overthrowing fathers. So he sees Atreus as his end. You can kind of see this when he paused before being shot by Atreus.
Þórr sure had no problem killing him.
Always find your GOW theories interesting& cool 🍻
He’s simply really cool so he can’t die.
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He was cursed to forever wear the ashes of his family. The Greek gods cursed him to never be able to die willing. Kratos always wants to or welcomes death. The only way he can die is by not wanting to die. Confusing but that’s pretty much the jest of it.
Kratos is definitely a reference to a Human incarnation of the God of war for obvious reasons which is pretty cool 😎
Ares, Hercules, Death, Thanatos's= same entity different names and different incarnations
love the video but if this was the case how did thor kill kratos in the beginning of ragnarok? or did i misinterpret that scene
Interesting, wouldn’t that mean he has taken the mantle of many gods. And wouldn’t it make it possible for him to recreate weapons. I mean the spear is literally just his spartan spear he had from his brother.
Guess we all agree those 50 hours in ironwood was a drag
Because it wasn't his duty to kill Thor directly but instead indirectly in-order to kill the All Father himself.
Your theory is good and its true that ares and zeus said it it to kratos.
but one cutscene confirmed it. i dont think that kratos is the god of dead but is still the god of war. there is one cutscene when kratos and brok visit lady of the forge to make draupnir. The lady took kratos blood and it showed the god of war sign. also in gow 2018 when kratos and atreus visit helheim after baldur attack one of shrine reaveald the god of war sign in different worlds. so its confirmed that he is still the god of war.
The reason kratos cant die but this is what i think. is because of athena who has plans of her own or the blade of chaos bears a teribble curse. The only weapon that returns everytime is the blade of chaos when kratos sleep
That would also make sense due to in Ragnarok Thor says you are a destroyer
My theory is that, there are entities that are above even the primordials and they use Kratos as their executioner to wipe out the pantheons that stepped out of line.
He’s Apocalypse.
He is a big cash cow for Santa Monica Studios, in fact the only cash cow, thats why he can’t die.😊
it can be seen at also like Doom at Your Service series kratos don't need kill anyone but his title god of death is enough keep death itself existing so death will " follow " where kratos goes
it was bugging me on the side of my mind, knowing that gods of greek mythos werent truly immortal... they had to drink Nectar and eat Ambrosia to make their life longer...
Technically, with Thor, he still sort of caused his death, after he defeated Thor, he talked with him, and after Odin saw it, he stabbed Thor, and Odin said during their fight, “…and Thor, that one’s on you. You turned him against me. You turned them all against me!” This could prove that Kratos still is death because he still ended up causing Thor to die. I understand that it is a stretch, but it could be possible because kratos could have knocked out Thor and said he died or taken him away before Odin arrived
The ghost of Sparta can't ever die.cause he got that dog/hades in him.....🤯
When Kratos claims that his son is cursed, it means that even his son can't die.
I thought he was about to say... remember Go Forth in the name...Of Kratos...God Of Death!
New saga:God Of Death
Nice video man. I dont think sparing Thor means he didnt do his duty. Despite him not killing Thor personally, his actions still lead to his death by hands of Odin.
That a very excellent theory.
So, you're saying, that Kratos killing his family was a canon event
I had to make an Across the Spiderverse joke 😂
If he hasn't been replaced as the god of death, he is most likely still the god of death. Also if he went back to prevent killing his wife and daughter, it would have removed all reason to go back in time. So he wouldn't. Paradoxical circumstance lol
What is that song in the background with the woman humming? It’s so peaceful please someone tell me what it is
It's "Pandora's theme Gow 3"
Doesn’t he die in the first fight with Thor, which is why Thor revives him and said he won’t get off that easy
is true that he doesn't kill Thor, but still Thor dies, and there is the fact that he was the god of death of another realm not the nordic one and it is stated that he lost most of his power after changing realm
God of death/god of war. he annihilated an entire pantheon and went to the norse mythos for seconds where he was prophesied to kill more of their gods. i think he's the god of death in the sense of going out and giving it to people.
or you know Kratos does die. a lot. he just happens to be in a universe where coming back to life is a matter of being skilled enough to escape back to the living world. it's not that he can't die. he's just powerful enough that death is more of a suggestion.
He's the God of Fools. The God of Hope.
While i think your theory has some strong points I do think god of war 3 blasts it out of the water
Because if the mutiny laws make him the new god then every god kratos kills means he takes there place
A damn good theory bro!
I think kratos still have the power of the box from pandora and thats hope
Fun theory but unless Cory or someone senior says otherwise it's just just a fun theory.
Hey kaptain kuba do you remember when Aries came to Kratos after he killed his family he tells kratos that he would would become death
Yes, I just remembered when I was close to finishing editing the video lol
Yk ur dangerous when even the writers and creators can't kill you
I mean, he technically died twice actually……. He was just too pissed off to STAY dead.
Now I want to See Kratos killing more gods
More god of war theory!!!!!!
What was this interview/audio from?
He’s just too stubborn to stay dead, except when Thor brought him back involuntarily.
I mean it would make sense cause he did kill The god of death and when he did the god of death just laughed at him, so he probably knew he was gonna take his role
That’s crazy because even after Kratos arrived at Midgard, Faye also died after birthing Atreus.
I don´t know....the puzzle pieces are not holding together really well.....I will wait if the devs from Santa Monica confirm this....
When the grave digger says “he’s the destroyer” he was also a paranoid megalomaniac who was also under the influence of the fear from Pandora’s box and if the god of death can not die how did Kratos kill him?