Is Kratos the God of Death? God of War Theory

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  • @KaptainKuba
    @KaptainKuba  ปีที่แล้ว +91

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    • @paulmoore4653
      @paulmoore4653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then, why can Kratos die during gameplay?

    • @gianna-rm9if
      @gianna-rm9if ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulmoore4653 for the game

    • @CoolSaver
      @CoolSaver ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulmoore4653 bruh

    • @HitmanHimself
      @HitmanHimself ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kuba is dying to see the role of the gods of higher existence in the god of war games isn't he?
      that's why he linked 'higher existence and kratos role as the god of death' out of nowhere.
      But santa monica isn't giving him.
      I really want to see them aswell, but I am getting a gut feeling they might have abandoned it (says who was really interested in them)
      Cory is off working on another IP
      Atreus broke the mask (which might be nothing but a macguffin)
      The devs want to think its some higher existence related shit but it isn't actually.
      I hope I am proved wrong totally tho in whatever next game they release.

    • @TheToobNube
      @TheToobNube ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you notice the floating mask in GOW 2018 right before Kratos & Atreus find the Unity Stone? When Atreus shoots his arrow at it, it emits a green light just like the wooden mask in Ragnarok.
      Do you think there could be a connection? @KaptainKuba

  • @YourRich-Friend
    @YourRich-Friend ปีที่แล้ว +1845

    “Why can’t Kratos die?”
    Me who died 20+ times from both Sigrún and Gná:

    • @JohnnyUtah00008
      @JohnnyUtah00008 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      absolute facts

    • @Bilalmbs09
      @Bilalmbs09 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Fax

    • @XxxTohot4youxxX
      @XxxTohot4youxxX ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Only 20??

    • @YourRich-Friend
      @YourRich-Friend ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@XxxTohot4youxxX I was always good at these boss fights, when I replayed GoW18 on GMGoW after I hadn’t played since Ragnarök released (serval months) and I beat Sigrún first try, mostly from one pommel, the Mistbourn, quite op imo. Gná was harder, took maybe 10 try’s to beat her, but adding up all the other times I died to these two is 20+.

    • @MasterJoeda_
      @MasterJoeda_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      20 times 50

  • @gilbertotabares8196
    @gilbertotabares8196 ปีที่แล้ว +1234

    I think it's more accurate to ask why he can't STAY dead. He's died at least five times. The afterlife just can't seem to hold onto him.

    • @memo5230
      @memo5230 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Can we not agree your not dead until your dead .

    • @gilbertotabares8196
      @gilbertotabares8196 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@memo5230 Thor certainly thinks so. Cause he did, in fact, kill Kratos. He just brought him back with Mjolnir. Which is something he can do. Tho mostly he used that trick on goats.

    • @arhl.w
      @arhl.w ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@gilbertotabares8196thor did not kill kratos kratos passed out

    • @FabulosoSpray
      @FabulosoSpray ปีที่แล้ว +63

      ​@@arhl.wAccording to an earlier script, Kratos was to die against Thor, and similarly to the previous games, come back and find that a long period of time passed. I guess they kept it in the game to troll the players a bit.

    • @gilbertotabares8196
      @gilbertotabares8196 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@FabulosoSpray I'll accept that. Still cool seeing Thor jumpstart a guys heart like that.

  • @mrshush7337
    @mrshush7337 ปีที่แล้ว +1059

    This gives the “Ghost of Sparta” nickname a more interesting meaning.

    • @gianna-rm9if
      @gianna-rm9if ปีที่แล้ว +8

      STOP

    • @Meme-vx5nx
      @Meme-vx5nx ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why

    • @shadowreezy3137
      @shadowreezy3137 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      No no! It actually makes sense to called “Ghost of Sparta”, Kratos is a ghost, just like the Grim reaper.

    • @Meme-vx5nx
      @Meme-vx5nx ปีที่แล้ว

      No not you I was talking to @ginna-rm9if

    • @shadowreezy3137
      @shadowreezy3137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Meme-vx5nx Me too

  • @batrol6687
    @batrol6687 ปีที่แล้ว +698

    As Ares said it in the first game. "You will become Death itself!" When GoW 3 came out, I read somewhere that Cory's idea for the third game would have been Kratos becoming Death in the end. Imagine him with a big Death's Scythe weapon.

    • @lightmohamed5700
      @lightmohamed5700 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Yes he showed both of those scenes in the video
      It was implied from the beginning that Kratos will become death itself the bringer of demise

    • @CoolSaver
      @CoolSaver ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Somebody already imagined that, made the game out of that, and called it "Dante's Inferno"

    • @batrol6687
      @batrol6687 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@CoolSaver Oh, I love Dante's Inferno. I wish there would be a sequel to that game.

    • @ArmoredG
      @ArmoredG ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A weapon specific to death. Reminds me about Claws of Hades

    • @redroberts3118
      @redroberts3118 ปีที่แล้ว

      He died in the first 3 games multiple times

  • @13superjedi
    @13superjedi ปีที่แล้ว +382

    Very first scene in God of War 1 also has a choir literally singing the words "Kratos, Thanatos" literally singing about Kratos being the bringer of death as he stands at the cliff overlooking the agean sea. That's foreshadowing for ya 💀

    • @KaptainKuba
      @KaptainKuba  ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Hey you're absolutely right!

    • @theotheagendashill818
      @theotheagendashill818 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      No, thanatos means death so the choir implies that Kratos is about to die, fitting given that he attempts suicide

    • @quintonmiller8266
      @quintonmiller8266 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@theotheagendashill818No. Use your deep thinking skills. It's right in front of you.

    • @flaviorodrigues440
      @flaviorodrigues440 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hm.... the translation says otherwhise. Where did you see this?

    • @dyrakenderson3570
      @dyrakenderson3570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i always thought it said "kratos, deimos"

  • @Notdjswrld
    @Notdjswrld ปีที่แล้ว +174

    This makes sense due to when artreus was sick in god of war 2018 freya stated that it was due to who kratos was and kratos took it as his fault saying “I did this to him?” because he almost once again brought death to someone he cared for without any intention to doing so

    • @ericinfante1885
      @ericinfante1885 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Shit you're right at least if this theory is cannon and kratos is seeing it in that perspective. Very mind blowing and genius af of the developers actually meant this the whole time and stick with it and further unfold the secrets coming forward. Will be something that went over our heads for over a decade!

    • @josephparks7628
      @josephparks7628 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If this theory is also correct, then that would also make since for why Freya needed the heart of Hel's Guardian. A ingredient from a dead(or undead) creature to help heal a child who's father is the God of Death. I mean obviously this is just spitballing ideas. But that kinda makes sense now too.

    • @ericinfante1885
      @ericinfante1885 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @josephparks7628 can't wait for the future series going forward with new ps5 capacity and I really do hope that even tho kratos is a changed person, that he gains new abilities, doesn't hold back much only in the end of he decides to spare them then thats OK. I also want to see more rage in general in cutscenes and perhaps better weaponry and a redesign if the one take to allow mire fluid movements overall and mobility. Can't really say I was feeling like the god of war being so grounded and stiff all the time. Ik kratos is old but ain't no way he is moving like a grandpa when his own father and odin were moving around like age is only a number and appearance lol.

    • @Tax_evasion2004
      @Tax_evasion2004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bro that’s looking way into it, Mimir literally states before going mental illness usually has a effect on the physical body and he’s never heard of a god thinking he’s a mortal then Freya says “his true nature is fighting against him, your true nature” she’s referring to Atreus godhood becoming kratos is a god and kratos realizes him not telling Atreus makes him sick

    • @Notdjswrld
      @Notdjswrld ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tax_evasion2004 exactly

  • @abood-oc1fd
    @abood-oc1fd ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Fun fact: in the god of war 3 trailer, Kratos says "death runs in my blood".

    • @lightmohamed5700
      @lightmohamed5700 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wow makes this theory even better

    • @vincentprins6682
      @vincentprins6682 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Ares said that Kratos will become Death itself

    • @icebearnicho8256
      @icebearnicho8256 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@vincentprins6682would you consider God of Death, and "Death itself" the same thing? Because even a God of Death can die

    • @quintonmiller8266
      @quintonmiller8266 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@icebearnicho8256Not a true one.

  • @dvillain4136
    @dvillain4136 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    Wouldn’t this logic also mean he is the god of the sea, hell, lightning ect? Because he killed all of the other god’s of Olympus. So wouldn’t he take their position?

    • @bennyd.monkey2138
      @bennyd.monkey2138 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      that's different because after those gods dies Olympus started getting destroyed but when thanotos died nothing changed since kratos took his place

    • @soramatsu1
      @soramatsu1 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      logically yes, but remember that kratos/greece world was supposedly destroyed, therefore hes just a shadow of his former self. from what i can tell most of his powers dissappeared when the greece world was destroyed. i would love to know the exact powers he still retained and how much. we seen his strength but we dont know how much.

    • @altair227
      @altair227 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      No their powers transformed into Chaos like we saw the ocean rise when poseidon died. and the ski split when zeus died and hermes turned into bugs. And the flowers rotted when hera died. He took Hades soul the only god that he took his soul and weapon in the god of war 3 the others transformed into something else.
      He took Thanatos and Hades positions and weapons/soul/power. So he will live forever lol

    • @ArmoredG
      @ArmoredG ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bennyd.monkey2138 Maybe hades took thanatos' place. Hades controls the underworld which heavily related to the deceased

    • @ArmoredG
      @ArmoredG ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@altair227 When hades died the souls of the deceased is not in control meaning they cant find an afterlife

  • @rong7496
    @rong7496 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Also, Zeus could try to take away the title of “GoW,” but the the title of “God of Death” as well as the job were not in his power to appoint. They were the only things beyond his dominion to controls. The gods were afraid of Thanatos’s implied power.

  • @khumokwezimashapa2245
    @khumokwezimashapa2245 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I love that there's still stuff to talk about from the Greek GOW lore more than 10 years on

    • @vincentprins6682
      @vincentprins6682 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There is just nothing to talk about the Norse anyway. Yeah that its boring and things could have been so much better

    • @lightmohamed5700
      @lightmohamed5700 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really love Greek GOW

    • @vlad_47
      @vlad_47 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The internet lore for Chains of Olympus is also a hidden goldmine full of Greek lore.

    • @GoldenQ9
      @GoldenQ9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats what good writing does 🔥😩

  • @tyeelander7708
    @tyeelander7708 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    "Death, the destroyer of worlds" is the title given to Kratos. And this is in reference to one of the scientists who made the Atomic Bomb in a famous interview these were his words after he learned of the destruction caused by his creation " I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds".

    • @Matt-vh2ci
      @Matt-vh2ci ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Who in turn was citing what the god Vishnu said in the bhavagad gita

    • @tyeelander7708
      @tyeelander7708 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Matt-vh2ci I was unaware of that part, thank you.

    • @deathmark1940
      @deathmark1940 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oppenheimer

  • @HouseofRedWine
    @HouseofRedWine ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Yes this is the curse his mother talked about in god of war 3 all who get near him suffer or die his wife, child, daughter, mother, brother, Orkos, the last spartan and all of sparta, the woman in Athens, Pandora, Faye, Atreus, Freya, Brok, and Thor all died or suffered either by Kratos' hands or by simply being close to him by showing any sign of love or affection towards him or him showing love and affection to others

    • @flippednormals297
      @flippednormals297 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      why Thor is in that list lol, and why Athena is not in the list lol because she came back?

    • @HouseofRedWine
      @HouseofRedWine ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@flippednormals297 I put Thor because at the end he and Kratos shared a moment but Thor immediately got killed by Odin and I forgot about Athena lol

    • @flippednormals297
      @flippednormals297 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@HouseofRedWine oh,
      yeah Athena suffered the same "love this man and die" scenario
      In an old interview Cory said Athena had some affection and love for him which she was conflicted about.
      I think that's why even after he went against Zeus she couldn't turn against Kratos, and died because she couldn't decide between Zeus and Kratos.

    • @lucasdiazjr5679
      @lucasdiazjr5679 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@HouseofRedWineit's was barley a moment it was more of a I don't want my kid to live in a messed up world and neither do you for yours. I'd say mutual agreement thor didn't respect or care for kratos but cared for thrud

    • @tanagunda1368
      @tanagunda1368 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@flippednormals297love this man in a brother sister way yes?

  • @ExtremeGameplays1
    @ExtremeGameplays1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is one of my favorite theories now. Good stuff, man!

  • @jaydenwoodward205
    @jaydenwoodward205 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I have a theory that Kratos could possibly be the incarnation of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse all rolled into one. He's already the God of War and Death, so Famine and Pestilence wouldn't be too crazy to think about

    • @lightmohamed5700
      @lightmohamed5700 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      He already caused famine and pestilence after killing Hermes and Hera also you forgot conquest which he also has

    • @Guardian582
      @Guardian582 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lightmohamed5700 conquest may actually be pestilence or famine, it is unclear in the writings as 'conquest' can mean many things

    • @lightmohamed5700
      @lightmohamed5700 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Guardian582 makes sense

    • @vlad_47
      @vlad_47 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pestilence is a modern pop culture thing. Conquest is the second rider.

    • @Guardian582
      @Guardian582 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@vlad_47 the only one actually named is Death, the others are up for interpretation
      When the lamb had opened one of the seven seals, I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, ‘Come!’ 2 And, as I watched, there was a white horse. Its rider was holding a bow. He was given a crown, and he went off winning victories, and to win more of them.
      3 When the lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, ‘Come!’ 4 And another horse went out, fiery red this time. Its rider was given permission to take peace away from the earth, so that people would kill one another. He was given a great sword.
      5 When the lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, ‘Come!’ As I watched, there was a black horse. Its rider held a pair of scales in his hand. 6 I heard something like a voice coming from the midst of the four living creatures. ‘A quart of wheat for a denarius!’ said the voice. ‘And three quarts of barley for a denarius! But don’t ruin the oil and the wine!’
      7 When the lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, ‘Come!’ 8 As I looked, there was a pale horse, and its rider’s name was Death. Hades followed along behind him. They were given authority over a quarter of the earth, to kill with the sword, and with famine, and with death, and by means of earth’s wild animals.
      while it doesnt say 'pesticlence' specifically it DOES mention wild beasts(of which i wonder what the true name would be), which is probably the 1st horseman , War is 2, and famine(? which the way its described, could also be pestilence of a sort) is the 3rd

  • @adelin3728
    @adelin3728 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm so glad you are back at having fun, man. Indeed this theory is food for thought, but i cannot stop thinking about how well it fits within the GOW universe. Huh. Thank you for this awesome theory! It is actually one of my favorites, ngl.

  • @randomYThandle301
    @randomYThandle301 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I doubt the "Higher Powers" were upset with Kratos for not killing Thor; the deaths that happen around him aren't always direct acts of conscious violence done by him. Though Kratos spares Thor, Odin ends up killing him pretty much immediately after anyway, so Kratos still, in a way, brought death to Thor. Overall, very interesting theory, and something that could potentially serve as a plot point in upcoming games. Nice work 👍

  • @odious5317
    @odious5317 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Kuba, this is my favorite video/theory you’ve come up with. If this is true, it is fuckin’ badass. I had chills running down spine hearing this theory. It’s damn cool.

  • @RAGE-OF-SPARTA-X
    @RAGE-OF-SPARTA-X ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is my first time seeing that intro, that was awesome, glad to see you’re back to making more GOW theory vids. As the GOW series progresses fans passion for the series will return and more interest around your vids will be generated. Keep going bro.

  • @ELMANCODELPUEBLO
    @ELMANCODELPUEBLO ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have never paid attention on how devastated Kratos sounded when he said “not again”… almost breaking down to tears. 6:35

  • @Cosmin087_
    @Cosmin087_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:50, another thing that you might have forgoten, when Kratos went to Freya to help Atreus with his fever, he asked her "I did this to him?".

    • @peculiar3529
      @peculiar3529 ปีที่แล้ว

      He meant by not telling him he’s a God; bruh this theory is ass

  • @Lupinemancer87
    @Lupinemancer87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the angle they are trying to go with is that Kratos is the God of Hope. By taking down all the various Pantheons that causes suffering, he brings hope and renevel to the people.

  • @Draygo_Official
    @Draygo_Official ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I don't know if you brought this up in a previous video, but the quote "....Death, "The destroyer of worlds" is the same quote used by J. Robert Oppenheimer, the "father of the atomic bomb". Maybe Kratos was still being used as a tool by those from the Higher Planes of Existence (Athena, Thoth, etc.) to bring death and war to the Greek pantheons.

    • @KaptainKuba
      @KaptainKuba  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Oh shit I forgot there's an Easter egg about that very same quote in Gow 2

    • @lucifers.morningstar3805
      @lucifers.morningstar3805 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      J. Robert Oppenheimer was making a reference to a god of death in Hindu myths.

    • @shubhangdubey8554
      @shubhangdubey8554 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s a quote from the Hindu scripture, Bhagvad Gita. Lord Vishnu, one of the Gods from the Hindu Trinity (Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma), says this to Arjun (one of the greatest warriors in Indian mythology) as he reveals his multi armed form.

  • @Ully04
    @Ully04 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    This perspective implies that he is all the gods, since he killed like 7 of them in god of war 3 and claimed their title.

    • @Chariotrequiemiscoolok
      @Chariotrequiemiscoolok ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I mean, he DID have their powers before he destroyed Greece. They all faded away with Greece, which makes me believe Kratos isn't even an actual god anymore, just a demigod. Think about it, Kratos was already strong enough to kill the Furies and Persephone and chain Atlas before becoming the God of War. And in the norse world, everyone seems to have stregth on par with Kratos, just look at Thor, Baldur and Odin, and they aren't gods of war (at least in the games).

    • @vlad_47
      @vlad_47 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Death is an primordial domain which has to be occupied, i guess. Thats why its passed on, like what Zeus implied.

    • @callofdutyvulture9116
      @callofdutyvulture9116 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Chariotrequiemiscoolok no it’s confirmed that he’s a god and immortal, greek demigods are mortals, he regained his godhood long ago

    • @callofdutyvulture9116
      @callofdutyvulture9116 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@newhybrid101 well yes but no, he regained most of his godhood essence, from the blade but not enough to make him a full god, not enough for him to be able to access hyperion gates, and swim in river styx without harm, when he killed hades and took his soul absorbing it into his own, he contained the soul of a full god within himself, literally making him a god, which is why he’s able to access hyperion gates freely as a god and swim in the river styx, the theory that hades soul went into the claws is false, because the dev that stated that was bruno, and he was just sharing his own theory and opinion to the topic, he even said “i suppose” at the start of his sentence which literally means to assume something is true without evidence, proof or knowing for certain, bruno is also not a writer! he’s a game coder only, so he wouldn’t know regardless, people take things out of context too much and make theories on something that’s not even accurate, we also know that the soul went into kratos, because the soul was stated to also give kratos a new ability, which was to access the hyperion gates and river styx without harm, he does this WITHOUT the claws of hades present, and without even accessing or equipping the claws of hades, if the soul was in the claws, he’d have to equip the claws to access the river styx and the hyperion gates, as the claw would contain the soul which also contains the ability, each weapon in the game has to be equipped to use its special ability, it also shows hades soul going into kratos himself not the claws, the only confirmed souls in the claws of hades are hades’s army, he ALSO still has the spartan rage ability, which is only a power he has when he’s a regular god, during gow ghost of sparta, he uses spartan rage for the first time in the end of the game to kill thanatos, after this, he lost all connection to his mortality, and this was during his early reign as the god of war, spartan rage is a god power that was created due to the godhood essence that athena gave him co-existing with the human side kratos once had, in the same body. This fused together creating this innate emotional conflict within himself, making his god rage power, kratos in his regular demigod state DOES NOT have this ability, greek demigods are MORTALS there is no such thing as demigods being as powerful as gods unless you are risen to divine rank and given godhood, which is the second definition and term for “demigod” mortals who become gods, which is what kratos is

    • @callofdutyvulture9116
      @callofdutyvulture9116 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@newhybrid101 also, before the 2018 release, cory barlog strictly stated kratos is still a god and immortal, greek demigods are confirmed mortals in the gow verse

  • @famous2099
    @famous2099 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's one of the dopest theories. Ngl. Keep this up Kub, can't wait to hear more theories.
    Take care.

  • @dajmoneq2840
    @dajmoneq2840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the best theory video i've seen from you. Absolutely incredible work Kuba.

  • @ryanr3071
    @ryanr3071 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God of war never gets old. Love the story complexity. When i played the older games with Kratos defying death over and over i had this theory too. Also, the gow 3 music is intoxicating

  • @adamsin9260
    @adamsin9260 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Again a reason why your the best God of war theorist. Good job this vid Kuba

  • @554drago
    @554drago ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I feel like when Hercule’s said “claim my throne” maybe there’s a ritual in order to become the god of that specific sort. But since Kratos never did that, theoretically I guess that makes him just a Death God Killer

    • @noahsibahi-jackson8757
      @noahsibahi-jackson8757 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He did hence how he became more powerful after killing Ares

    • @vlad_47
      @vlad_47 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newhybrid101 Thats not Percy Jackson here

    • @noahsibahi-jackson8757
      @noahsibahi-jackson8757 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@newhybrid101 No he became more powerful after whatever powers were subsequently bestowed upon him after becoming the god of war

  • @kiraqueen0
    @kiraqueen0 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Kuba is back. We missed you brother.

  • @MsKeroseneLamp
    @MsKeroseneLamp ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh it's refreshing to see a content creator enjoy the snacks they were sent to review instead of always seeing the typical review video we often see online.

  • @HitmanHimself
    @HitmanHimself ปีที่แล้ว +5

    speaking of that gow2 mystery why he doesn't save his family, I think the thread of his family was not longer there anymore.
    And maybe he could have used his thread but its also possible if you consider the thread as a "video tape" that part of his life might have been cut off and thrown away by the sisters of fate earlier?

  • @pace_18
    @pace_18 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got chills down my spine when I realized the tragedy of Kratos accepting he was death itself for the entire god of war universe. The story just got another layer or perspective

  • @Oldschoolgamer643
    @Oldschoolgamer643 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I’ve had this thought for a while tbh especially with the original plan to possibly have Kratos become the grim reaper and the blades of chaos becoming the scythe

    • @ArmoredG
      @ArmoredG ปีที่แล้ว

      you know when people said kratos becoming grim reaper and have those death weapon and stuff. Just reminds me of Claws of Hades, i know hades is not god of death but hes the god of the underworld but still specific to the deceased

  • @savagekillz0732
    @savagekillz0732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I payed off my student loans, got married had 12 kids and kuba finally posted

  • @yashsoni7614
    @yashsoni7614 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "Death can have me, when it earns me"🗿😈🔥
    - Kratos

    • @Stikgamer2010
      @Stikgamer2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      So in order for Kratos to truly die, he needs to kill himself?

    • @yashsoni7614
      @yashsoni7614 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Stikgamer2010 He killed himself in GOW 3 still he didn't die😏 Bro will never die🗿

    • @bobbywilliams4438
      @bobbywilliams4438 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Still one of the hardest lines said in gaming ! Maybe period

    • @peteybakedziti8908
      @peteybakedziti8908 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet he died twice in GoW 1&2 and needed help both times to come back

    • @yashsoni7614
      @yashsoni7614 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteybakedziti8908 Still he didn't die... Cry more kid🤣

  • @kratos9954
    @kratos9954 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos keep getting better and better kuba amazing theory

  • @djgrizzly9353
    @djgrizzly9353 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually think the next game will start off with Kratos's death. Like, they'll teach us how to play, then give us a cool little mini boss, then we'll get the crazy over the top boss that the games always start with, (I think that boss will be Forseti, the god of justice, who is seeking justice for Asgard) and he will kill Kratos, and they will close his book, and open Atreus's in Egypt, or China, or wherever he went in search of the giants

    • @WyvernLP
      @WyvernLP ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kratos won't die as the devs are aware that'd upset the GoW fanbase.

  • @shubhangdubey8554
    @shubhangdubey8554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a quote from the Bhagvad Gita. Oppenheimer said it too. “Now I have become death, the destroyer of worlds.”

  • @schmalzilla1985
    @schmalzilla1985 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was under the impression from another theory that the curse of his family's ashes on his skin was why he couldn't stay dead. He was marked for eternity so that all will see his sin or something like that.
    Becoming Death is another possibility, but then you gotta wonder, is he death because he took someone else's place? Or because their is belief that he is death? I wonder how much faith influences a God in the GoW universe 🤔.

    • @bugatoli
      @bugatoli ปีที่แล้ว

      If the idea is that he can't die (or stay dead) while he has the ashes of his wife and daughter then does that mean he can die after they wear off? Cause after all this time the ashes are starting to fade

    • @shawnwarrynn8609
      @shawnwarrynn8609 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's likely that with him being cursed by so many gods and mortals alike, Kratos is stuck in a permanent state of immortal Living Hell, forced to tormented by the memories of his sins.
      Of course, Killing the former God of Death and becoming the new God of Death is also amplifying the effects.

  • @Jj7th
    @Jj7th ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m u the only who saw kratos lift the leviathan axe like he wanted to swing on Thor again but didt seeing as he wants to change 8:32

  • @josepreciado2479
    @josepreciado2479 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Devs at the end of GOW 3 that wanted to make Kratos the grim reaper are rubbing their Hands like Birdman watching this video 🔥😂

  • @zilooh
    @zilooh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a very good essay that actually brings something fresh to the table, really good job you've made. Congrats.

  • @jdp3578
    @jdp3578 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No, they just claim the throne, it's not some unique passing of the title. If that were so, then the sisters of fates powers would pass to Kratos, but he was only able to use the mirrors twice, and the temple collapsed after the death of the sister. I theorize that Kratos can come to the edge of death and come back, because of the ashes of prometheus he absorbed in gow2. I think he took on his curse to always revive. And curses don't seem to die with their castor, since Kratos is still ashen.....

  • @sparta-zh7yk
    @sparta-zh7yk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That also will explain why he is so powerful, since Thanatos is consider to be the most powerful god in all GOW series

  • @jasonhendrawan5625
    @jasonhendrawan5625 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What happened to Aphrodite in the end of gow 3 ? We all know that Aphrodite is still alive after kratos destroy Greek pantheon

  • @mohammadalijamali5892
    @mohammadalijamali5892 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice theory, Also there's a quote of Ares in GoW1 who says: " YOU will become "Death" itself! "

  • @simply_soul4355
    @simply_soul4355 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m happy to see an upload from you hermano! Hope all is well :)

  • @nolanevery3798
    @nolanevery3798 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wouldn’t that mean he is also the god of souls, sea 🌊, Olympus, strength, speed, the sun 🌞, wisdom, war, time, foresight, invulnerability, wind 🌬️, death, hope, lightning, and hands 🙌.
    ……he’s really the god killer.

    • @quintonmiller8266
      @quintonmiller8266 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, because chias happened when they died. Nothing happened when Kratos killed death. Cause he is the real God of Death.

  • @mersunarytigre
    @mersunarytigre ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Why can't Kratos die?"
    The man has killed more than 2 death related gods and deities in the Greek saga.

  • @lashonnakennybrew4847
    @lashonnakennybrew4847 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I truly believe the only reason why Kratos refuses to die is because he has his son and he had his wife I believe Kratos has true Infinity and true infinite lifespan and powers he can never die but he continues to grow older

  • @Gabriel-no6wv
    @Gabriel-no6wv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This hit different when you know that in greek "philosophy", death comes to all, even gods.

  • @My6119
    @My6119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After fighting Hades for the first time back in 2011, I speculated for every god Kratos slays, he doesn't just get their weapons, but gets their godhood. Ex: He becomes the new god of the underworld when Hades died, then the god of speed as Hermes died, then all leading up to becoming essentially the god of gods when defeating Zeus.

    • @lightmohamed5700
      @lightmohamed5700 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also because he devoured hades’s soul literally

    • @RossoNero1987
      @RossoNero1987 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@lightmohamed5700he still has it in himself

    • @lightmohamed5700
      @lightmohamed5700 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RossoNero1987 yup

  • @christopherherr7561
    @christopherherr7561 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trust me, I feel you. Sometimes I look at snacks, black out, and they're gone.

  • @flaviorodrigues440
    @flaviorodrigues440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the end of GOW: Ragnarok Mimir says that Hel wants a break. So maybe Kratos becomes God of the Underworld. Maybe then he becomes worshiped in Mexico.

  • @justice4all190
    @justice4all190 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good, i already spoked about this. Kratos is Death ( possible Reaper ), we must wait for SM to tell us more about higher existence, it would be all connected.

    • @peculiar3529
      @peculiar3529 ปีที่แล้ว

      This doesn’t make sense there’s no proof of this except a line from Zeus that was not literal because they never mention it again, and the fact that kratos kills people and people die sometimes when they know kratos. Kratos doesn’t become the gods that he kills; god of war one showed there was a ritual that made you god of war.

  • @thegeekartistt
    @thegeekartistt ปีที่แล้ว

    what an amazing take, I really missed theory videos. keep up the great work!

  • @madeline1714
    @madeline1714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok there is one of two possibilities here. Either
    A: this is false because you can die in the game.
    Or B: we have a cannon reason for respawning.

  • @josepreciado2479
    @josepreciado2479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Member when Kuba said he ain’t gonna do these vids no more but then he comes back with some heat Theory like this 😭🔥 glad he back

  • @hueyhorseman
    @hueyhorseman ปีที่แล้ว

    6:30 Canon event...Spider-Man 2099 will be proud

  • @jkuzma123
    @jkuzma123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was a cool theory, my headcanon was that he was always the god of strength(I think greek myth has a Kratos like that) which explained his feats of strength especially in GOW 2 where he lost his powers as god of war. I also wonder if Kratos usurped Deimos' fate as the marked warrior by mantling(like in the elder scrolls) because im sure the sisters of fate would want to make sure the prophecy never happens if their lives are on the line and would make sure they got the right kid.

  • @wavegotvibes
    @wavegotvibes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kuba is back🔥🙏🏾

  • @lukethegoldenminecart1297
    @lukethegoldenminecart1297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always liked the idea that Kratos just refuses to die. That line "death can have me when it earns me" kinda reinforced that for me, Kratos refuses to die because he wants a death that he believes is worthy for him

  • @radiorebel8223
    @radiorebel8223 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think ragnorak Valhalla gives us the actual answer at the end: Kratos is a god of hope. He embodies it in all of what he has done, the good and the bad points of hope. Hope can pull you out of the deepest pit, and pull you right into one, depending on what you are hoping on and how you use it. Hope can destroy worlds and save them. It starts wars and finishes them. Lastly, I also think kratos being unable to die is due to this little classic line: “hope never truly dies.”

  • @swiftly_produced2694
    @swiftly_produced2694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:23, here's a theory. You just showed a clip where Zeus said that Kratos became: "Death, the destroyer of Worlds." This is extremely clearly a refrence to Openheimer's famous quote: "Now I'm become death, destroyer of worlds." But, the thing to note is that, that quote that Openheimer used was from The Baghvat Gita. A Hindu Scripture. This either means 3 things.
    1. Nothing
    2. Every God of death is the same, which is a bit strange, since Vishnu, the god who said that quote isn't the god of death, he is quite the opposite, because he's the god of preservation of life (in the context of the quote, he even tried to perserve life). But all hindu gods are actually the same, so that's why the existence of hinduisme in the God of War Universe really messes with the theory of every speciality god being the same.
    3. Zeus knows about the Hindu pantheon and that's why he said he used the quote, because Kratos now has the same powers and duties as every God of Death (most likely)

  • @baronvonpiano7625
    @baronvonpiano7625 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember reading somewhere that the original plan after God of War III was for Kratos to become the God of Death. Apparently they were going to do a game about him as the God of Death set in modern times.

  • @Vinzie777
    @Vinzie777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason why he’s able to kill Thantos it’s because he’s using the Blades of Chaos, it was explained in ragnarok that it is a primordial weapon and possibly contains a primordial fire, which is far older than the greek gods. Old as Chaos. Its source is not bound in its birthplace, the reason why Kratos is able to use it in whatever place he goes.

  • @whatareyoudoingherewearelo6793
    @whatareyoudoingherewearelo6793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 2:16, you said he became the god of death, because he killed death, but doesn’t that make him the god of the sea or sun, because kratos killed the gods? Or am I just not understanding this right?

  • @AbrahamMusalem
    @AbrahamMusalem ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude you’re wild. Very good video.

  • @cadenhuravitch6283
    @cadenhuravitch6283 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another banger video and great theory as always

  • @kratossmith3142
    @kratossmith3142 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kuba, you've done it again. My favorite video you've done on god of war.

  • @EvilRyuXAbuser
    @EvilRyuXAbuser ปีที่แล้ว

    "By the death of your family, you will become even stronger... you will become, Death, itself..." - Ares to Kratos

  • @ABG_SPARTAN
    @ABG_SPARTAN ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a good one Kuba, nice work🔥

  • @tinayemunyaradzichiweshe2906
    @tinayemunyaradzichiweshe2906 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me: I love your accent bro, say Zeus one more time
    KaptainKuba: Seuss

  • @barbarotanquero2115
    @barbarotanquero2115 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s why in gow Ragnarok Valhalla dlc he became the god of hope 😮

  • @anthonybruno3183
    @anthonybruno3183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And do believe this is a very interesting theory, but I believe he is a destroyer, but he’s also a creator, depending on how he uses his powers, but the Kratos we know has killed everything that has stood against him yet in the moral at the end of god of war rag it showed him being worshiped, and being more of a creator, it’s all about him being better, and breaking the chain --of death for the most part

  • @NeumanProductions
    @NeumanProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair, considering Thor still dies even with Kratos choosing himself to stop, I think that still shows him as being the God of death.
    Which will then play with Sindri as he already once kept Brok from death, now seeing Kratos as exactly that, the Shadow of Death to overcome once more.

  • @Kumakaree
    @Kumakaree ปีที่แล้ว

    honestly im pretty sure santa monica just forgot about his family entirely during the time travel part lmao

  • @christiansnaturestudio6599
    @christiansnaturestudio6599 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thor: *WHY WON'T YOU DIE*
    Kratos: *MARK OF DEATH, SON*

  • @tby3502
    @tby3502 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this theory, I think it's one of your best ones yet in my opinion.

  • @TheCrusader24
    @TheCrusader24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kratos: By the Gods, What have I Become.
    Zeus: Death ☠️
    The Destroyer of World's

  • @AeonAxisProductions
    @AeonAxisProductions ปีที่แล้ว

    Also remember what ares said when he killed his family "now youll become even stronger, you will become death itself"

  • @juanisol8275
    @juanisol8275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The inheritance theory of the divine role is intriguing, it reminds me of the mythology of the hyperborian era and other shamanic ideologies where the archetype transcends through a messianic avatar. Personally, I think that Kratos' role as a deity of War, Destruction and Death is included with his demidio legality, but the interesting thing is that how you highlighted hope got him out of that vicious cycle and now he is using his talent responsibly. And who knows if it is something else, like a counterpart of the plane of existence or part of it but in another archetypal focus!

    • @Nostradevus1
      @Nostradevus1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wouldn't that make Kratos the entire Greek pantheon though? He killed them all, so why would he not mantle them all?

    • @juanisol8275
      @juanisol8275 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nostradevus1 Curious question and whose answers are the following:
      1) The entire Greek pantheon was corrupted and by destroying them its essence transmuted into chaotic cataclysms
      2) Kratos possessed the power of hope and acquired more power thanks to Pandora's sacrifice
      3) Kratos lost much of his divinity by sacrificing himself for humanity
      PS I think that what Kratos did was directly an absolute reset, since somehow everything was stagnating similar to Kronos when he tried to cheat the prophecy...
      That power cannot be removed, only by earning it does one achieve it...

    • @Nostradevus1
      @Nostradevus1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juanisol8275 None of those explain how the mantling theory can be true while he was not mantling each god he killed.1. I took those cataclysms as being signs that the Gods were required to keep the different aspects of the world in check. Once he killed a god of say the seas you start seeing floods, because noone is around to keep the seas in check. This means noone was mantling those divine aspects, which begs the question again. If he can mantle the god of death just by killing him, why not the others? 2. Has nothing to do with the mantling. I understand he had the power of hope, but it is separate entirely from the power of the gods. 3. He is still clearly a god in God of war 4/5, the game director said he is stronger than he has ever been, and lastly in God of War 5 it is explained that the Greek magic/magical items he acquired no longer work because magic is bound to the realm. Kratos as a God has become stronger, but has to learn to tap into the magics of the Norse realms.

  • @dekendricknunsant4662
    @dekendricknunsant4662 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mane @Kaptainkuba you did it again ✊🏿✊🏿😎 I swear I don’t.think nobody ever looked at Kratos like that but it makes sense

  • @sendittobrandon2012
    @sendittobrandon2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kratos is the god of war.
    He is cursed to be at basically never ending war. War with others war with himself. He goes to war against the gods, against hydras, Barbarians even against simple doors. But what is war without hope things can be better. What are you even fighting for if it’s not for things to get better. That’s why by the end of Valhalla he’s the God Of Hope

  • @ap4702
    @ap4702 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's hard to say what is canon in the new saga. The main one is godhood. Kratos was a demigod and mortal, but now apparently, he's always been a god.

    • @alliii835
      @alliii835 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newhybrid101he was a demigod from birth

  • @didaslavko2929
    @didaslavko2929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this explains why kratos even in the new gows he is constantly killing everything gods monsters animals everything even deaths he could prevent he didnt

  • @iClashAlways
    @iClashAlways ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even though Kratos chose not to kill Thor, he still brought about Thors death by making that choice. He also didn’t directly kill the lady who fell off the balcony at the sight of him. So I think your theory still applies and makes a lot of sense. Death just follows him whether it comes by his own hand or his decision to be in a certain place at a certain time.

  • @gavinminton210
    @gavinminton210 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man what a good theory. Great video!

  • @shikatsuwu
    @shikatsuwu ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for a captain kuba GOW video 🔥🔥🔥

  • @hankbardukis381
    @hankbardukis381 ปีที่แล้ว

    His own words "Death can have me when it earns me"

  • @michaeldragonblood6724
    @michaeldragonblood6724 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kuba you forgot about this but Ares kinda Foreshadowed your theory and I quote:
    "You will become Death Itself"

  • @wqqdcraft
    @wqqdcraft ปีที่แล้ว

    really great and fun video!!! it earned my sub! TY!

  • @LlewBvZ
    @LlewBvZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not gonna lie this is the best theory because it makes the most sense

  • @colincirne9438
    @colincirne9438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Kratos was the God of Death, then could this be possible:
    - Thor killed Kratos at the beginning of Ragnarok (then revived him), becoming God of Death (I think Barlog confirmed Kratos died),
    - Odin killed Thor, becoming God of Death,
    - Sindri killed Odin when Atreus placed his soul in the marble, becoming God of Death,
    - Sindri could be God of Death???

  • @morenicnechtej
    @morenicnechtej ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video brother i absolutly love the GOW universe and you are surely the best creator of GOW videos ✊

  • @tristianplays.
    @tristianplays. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes the atreus of sparta is loki theory cannon because he killed him in gow when he was the last spartan soldier

  • @gaydarskiy13
    @gaydarskiy13 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you kill god of war - you became god of war
    Random Draugr in GOW 2018 - HELL YEAH

  • @kyrudo
    @kyrudo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really liked this video, but I have a question. Isn't it said that when Kratos came to the Norse region he lost all his powers. We know he tecnically is still a "God", cause he could regenerate and the blood was accepted for Dropnir, but like how does that work when a God is outside the region of its creation? Like if Kratos is truly a God of Death, when he went to Hel and met with Hræsvelgr, wouldn't the bird be like: Yo, there can't be 2 gods of the death bro. wtf.

  • @Goat42049
    @Goat42049 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Captain! Funny enough you talk about pirates a few days I finish watching the pirates of the Caribbean series 😂 the theory is awesome and I was so mind blown how sometimes the answer is hidden in plain sight sometimes and I’m glad your enjoying doing the videos again and seeing it more as a hobbie again rather thn a job