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- HugS rants about his distaste for Brawl and what it meant to old school Melee players.
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Conclusion: Hugs has never recovered from losing to a 14 year old snake main.
That's me, I was 12 back then at EVO 2009 :p
@@yousefelafrangi2658 wait fr, damn your vids are kinda weird
@@steez4778 yurp
Guys, should we tell him that King DeDeDe can spam spot doges in the z-axis so that there is literally a 1 frame window to get hit by thin moves
You just did
king dedede's spot dodge is so broken lmao, like if a spot dodge has ever been broken its dedede's
"I can’t believe a Samus player who’s spent 13 years just walking around uptilting is the vocal brawl hater, Hugs is like -10apm away from being a brawl player himself"
- @CannibalSerb
LMAOOOO
lmfao
Kinda true
Bruh I get all that but...
That Subspace Emissary tho
Preach
people who like subspace emissary are desperate
@@sunorcio3901 for what its entertaining and we get to see the fighters interact in others ways than just fighting. People who like you who assume we are desperate and you're just fucking dense.
Brawl is the best single player Smash game, 100%
The atmosphere and love that went into Subspace, the coin launcher to collect trophies, the little masterpiece collection where you could play retro games, the home run contest (that had walls finally), and the FREAKING THEME SONG??? It's so good. It's a fantastic game.
I forget who said it, but subspace emissary was just a "bad kirby game".
It was bland and boring. Cool idea, though
next hugs vid : Why I Think Breathing AIR is GREAT For You
I'd watch it
Interesting that you brought up frame data first. I remember looking up Meta Knight's frame data and even as a layman at the time I was like this is disgusting.
It's so wild. I grew up on Brawl, played Sm4sh and beat all my friends. I got into Ultimate and really tried to become as good as I possibly could. TWO WEEKS of Project M, and now I never want to go back. All the comboing and flashy cool stuff I wanted to do but never could in Ultimate, I can finally do in Project M. There's so much more skill-- it feels like a real fighting game.
Watching a Falco read my soul and combo me around the stage and spike me is like watching art-- it's fun to lose. In Ultimate, you lost because someone's wifi connection was garbage and you couldn't respond to their avalanche of unfair projectiles or couldn't punish them because they had no landing lag (Cloud + Pikachu).
Seriously, after 19 years of playing all the smash games besides Melee and wondering why Melee players were always so grumpy, I finally understand in just 2 weeks.
Same here
Time to play melee, KING.
Never cared for PM personally. Found it felt clunky.
I like it more than Melee mechanically, but hate what the mod itself stands for (the stance of the Melee elitists that hate literally anything that isn't just Melee 2)
@@Robbie_Haruna lmao what? that's not even close to what it stands for, it's just a fun game and brawl sucked for melee players because it's a slow game. melee elitists will play melee and say pm is dumb.
also whatever amount of clunkyness you feel is probably just not being used to it, game feels great so I'm not really sure what that could refer to. people who call others melee elitists tend to be the folks who legitimately don't know a single thing about the games they're talking about.
You didn't even mention how the worst spotdodge in melee is only 30% invunerable.
Gnw should probably be removed from the data set lol. Hes a very special unique case because of how fucked up it is. Do you know how invulnerable the second worst spotdodge is?
@@reisjames1 Lmao so true, its tied for puff and bowser at a little over 50%
@@reisjames1 Actually bowser is slightly worse and is 50%
ThirstyFajita good to know, thanks!
It's no mystery why pm became huge.
PM is the goat
@@sulfurcarbide7039 P+ yo
@@alow4012 P+ is fucking fire i wanna have kids just to freacking 0 to death them and laugh at their pathetic faces
Sulfur Carbide play p+, it revived the game imo and offers a lot of aesthetic and gameplay changes such as more costumes and the addition of Knuckles
Weegee Plays imagine liking your own comment
‘Salem is a guy who’s opinion you can trust’ - HugS, 2020
Smash Melee - Best Competitive and Multiplayer
Smash Brawl - Best Single-Player
ult's single player is great too it help with my insomnia
@@fufydjvjxhcal6991 ult is best multiplayer casual.
But yet Smash Bros. is a game designed for multiplayer.
Hot take here
I do believe the worst Smash game on terms of "competitive" is Smash 4 , and here is why :
- The game has insane jank
- 2 stocks + 8 MINUTES.........
- Shielding is pretty much the best defensive option, is just too good not to use
- Jank stages like Lylat ,Smashville and more
- Pretty much 90% can get back to the stage , free recoveries.......
- The game rewards you for getting punished due to the "rage mechanic"
- DLC wave move the entire meta into Bayonetta in singles , and Cloud in doubles.
Ye uh in a game where you can trip, and certain characters cannot be picked because they get infinite grabbed? Idk man
@@atari9477 I mean bayonetta was free you didn't really need to have tons of experience to do well plus meta knight could just dip and never come back
Xavier Archie Whats that got to do with Brawl being a worse game?
@@atari9477 I'm looking at the best character on both sides and objectively brawl is a better game because of its side content like subspace emissary
Yeah smash 4 is slower than brawl. There's a reason it is only played with 2 stocks compared to brawl's 3
and people complain about Ultimate spot dodge, at least Ultimates can stale
People complain about spotdodge canceling (as they should), not spotdodge
spotdodge cancelling is an ass mechanic and makes me question the ideas of the developers
ShiRuBa8th spot dodge canceling = YES
Wavedash = NO
SAKURAI IS HIGH
Spot dodges are broken in ultimate. Especially onljne
Miles Jones what is spot dodge canceling?
I think it's mostly just nostalgia for a lot of people. Brawl was a lot of peoples first ever competitive game
I agree my cousin literally said he would only go back to brawl is for nonstalga.
I never played this game for competition. I just genuinely like Brawl, obviously for fun. But I like playing games alone and there no real way to play melee alone
@@illford true lol
No it wasn't. brawl was my first casual game for me. You guys need to understand that the other half of the smash fanbase consists of fans. Competitive players need to get out more and stop acting like they're the only portion of the fanbase that the game should cater to them specifically
@@lapplandkun9273 I'm not sure what my mindset was 2 years ago when I wrote that comment, but given the context of the video being about competitive brawl, from the perspective of a competitive smash player, on a channel generally revolving around competitive smash, I think we can assume I was specifically talking about just the competitive community. Obviously 99% of people play the game casually and don't care about any of this. Duh?
LMAO how was metaknight more broken pre release, what were they smokinggg? I enjoyed brawl as a kid though, i didnt have to think too hard and the single player was dope as hell...
Percent of invulnerability matters way less than brawl spotdodges being WAY more reactable and havinga larger window at the end, regardless of how invul it is in the middle
It is much easier for me, a melee and brawl vet, to punish brawl spotdodge because on average there are simply more frames after the spotdodge. The invul in the middle only matters if i already missed, not if i am trying to punish one.
damn i got to the part where h e calls me out by name
Yeah brawl is def not the best smash game, but IMO 64 and 3ds at least are worse.
Idk if it just me but I can't punish brawl spotdodges unless we go boxing ring
@@imESAM Naww 64 is frickin amazing dude the combo possibilities are sick, Brawl was my first smash game too
Hi esam! Play with axe! Luv you!
Lol was gonna comment something very similar to this haha
I think Brawl might have been a bad competitive game but the matches it ended up with are so interesting to watch. They aren’t “exciting” per se but to see how players worked around it’s wonky mechanics was very interesting.
I agree. I hated brawl when it came out because of how slow and floaty it felt (I didn't even know about the competitive scene at the time), but the more I watch it the more I appreciate what the competitors do.
No shit Brawl was a bad competitive game. It took you guys over thirteen years to figure that out?
39,6% of this video is talking about spotdodges.
ZeRo said brawl was his favorite. look where he is now.
And nairo was the number 1 brawl player in 2018-2019...
Oh my fucking god you madman
Too soon...too soon man
The top 3 in brawl were nairo, zero, and ally 🤢
@@jogywhite5389 That was Smash 4 not Brawl
I know a lot of melee players don't like brawl, but I've definitely seen a lot of them say brawl was better than 4
thats because a lot of us haven't even played 4 and at least kinda liked supspace.
The thing is Brawl has probably the best casual mode in the entire Smash franchise, with all the single player modes from Melee coming back (with some of them being playable as 2 players, making it even more fun), Subspace Emissary obviously, trophies being as fun as ever to collect, stage builder, challenges, and a bunch of other incredible content. It's an excellent casual game in my opinion.
Smash 4 barely had any improvement over Brawl. What did they even add ? Smash Tour ? Nobody played that shit. Not only they barely added any new fun mode (I can't even think of one), they also decided to cut off stuff like adventure mode or targest test. It's the worst casual Smash game in terms of content in my opinion.
@@wouterpop1 @wouterpop1 Leffen played 4 he said brawl was better, m2k likes brawl more obviously, Mike haze, Chudat probably, chillindude said brawl was better too pretty certain, n0ne has also tweeted that he liked brawl more. So yeah there are plenty of melee players who say brawl is better, and there's no way they would form an opinion when not playing it. And yeah I'm talking competitively, casually obviously brawl is significantly better
@@adamice2526 did u ignore this entire video or what
@@chimp9465 I only recall one sentence about Smash 4 in a nearly 30min video.
I'm very amused and pleased that this video opens with HugS86 flossing his teeth. Keep up the good dental hygiene.
Mew2King frame data still coming in handy over a decade later.
Finally the truth. Hella enjoy a frame data backed fighting game rant
Who would they even interview for the brawl documentary though? a large majority of brawl players got outed for abuse within the community sooooo......
M2K: The Documentary
Esam, M2K... Melee players who went back...
@@chrismdb5686 I'd watch it tbf
Esam, M2K, Tyrant, Otori, Dabuz... Thats all I can think of honestly. Maybe Gimr since he saw the whole community?
Edit: 8 hours later, remembered Larry Lurr.
the brawl documentary was in the works way before any of the allegations and the claims against those players came out.
my favorite brawl documentary is this one
Everyone is forgetting brawl diddy but I think he was the best designed character of brawl. He was fast, had an exploitable recovery while being able to edgeguard, had special techs with item tossing, an interessing neutral with bananas management, and a real punish game with a few throw combos and banana setups
zss was cool too
I would still put Brawl over Smash 4 just for the single player alone.
Best part of Brawl is COIN LAUNCHER.
Let 'em know!
The Brawl music went hard though, I hope someone figures out how to replace melee stage music with Brawl's on Slippi
th-cam.com/video/Q_iw2V6ztYI/w-d-xo.html
I came into the Smash community shortly after Brawl came out, so I remember those wars. I hadn't owned a GC/Wii at that point, and so had only played Melee in highschool at friend's houses. And then in undergrad, especially sophomore where I lived in a suite with a couple of others who liked Smash and had Wii in the common room, I started playing some small college tournaments.
So I basically started with Brawl. But after like a half year or so, and watching what high level Brawl looked like at the time (terrible) I became disillusioned. But then one of my flatmates found his old copy of Melee and we played that for like 5 minutes and that was it. It's just so OBVIOUSLY and BLINDINGLY better, that even someone who was a Brawl amateur at best and a total Melee noob could see it. A couple combo videos later and I could never look back.
And I still cannot understand why anyone likes Brawl. Even casually. The game is nonsensical (you trip, can't kill, there's random input lag, a lot of hits leave you minus, which is stupid) and makes you feel like you're in molasses. I can't see how that is more fun casually. And let's be honest, other than the cutscenes (just use TH-cam) Subspace was trash too.
Trying to get people to play Melee so that it wouldn't die left me scarred enough that even hearing the Brawl opening theme (like, the only good part of the game) makes feel sick. What an utterly trash game.
I loved Brawl...........because I had no idea how to play right.
God, I remember the disappointment. Way to completely crush my dreams when I was young and super into melee. Not only was brawl absolute garbage, but it killed melee for a whole year.
To all the young people here who didn't experience the disaster that was brawl first hand, Imagine taking your absolute favorite game, that you played competitively since 2004. You join its badass community, and drive all over the country to compete in underground tournaments with your new homies. And then out of nowhere you just get completely and utterly shat on by Nintendo who decides to turn the game into another Mario Party. Then just like that Melee was gone. I never thought it was coming back and I thought all those good times were just over.
I could rant about brawl for hours, but fortunately Melee has stood the test of time and is back and better than ever and that alone speaks for its self. And where is brawl now? In the trash where it belongs. I never did quite get my drive to play back after brawl killed it for me, but I still love melee to death.
brawl is better than melee
@@honathan2135 they equal
Brawl was such a good casual experience though
brawl sucked so much. I stayed in line for midnight release of brawl. Literally stopped playing a week later after I realized how trash of a game it was and went back to melee
One time I was at a convention called Connecticon and just joined a brawl tournament mostly because it was going on. ( Never really played brawl, mostly a melee guy) Long story short, I won. I won a tournament having played the game about 5 times. Total shit show haha.
I know that feeling... I used to be a FIFA player and won a PES tourney once not even having touched the game before
My hottest take in all of smash is that brawl had the best roster out of any game. I know ult has all the same characters+more but I feel like 80+ characters is just excessive and Brawl's 35ish was the perfect roster size. And they also took major steps to make all the "clones" feel distinct from one another, versus melee. Obviously clones in melee play very differently at a high level but if you don't know much about the game it feels pretty lame that 5(?) characters have almost identical movesets, whereas brawl didn't have that problem. The only unforgivable thing was taking out Mewtwo, that was a travesty.
But Hugs is still right about everything he said. If Brawl had a better physics engine, actual game balance and was designed more in line with melee it would've been insanely good instead of being the worst competitive smash game ever conceived.
Yeah I really like the roster size for brawl. I reckon for smash 6 (if there ever is one) there will be a similar amount of characters
I mean, I'd rather not have two links. I get that Ultimate has 3, but that's cause "everyone is here". Brawl CHOSE to have two links.
@@thederanator2743 Sure, but if we're comparing how similar Link is to Toon Link in Brawl vs how similar Link is to Young Link in Melee, it's no contest. Although I don't disagree with your point.
@Pillow Lol. I said independent of game engine/design philosophy/balance for exactly that reason.
brawl boomers about to go crazy after watching this video lmao
Why ultimate community?
Braden Balding majority of the top ultimate players played brawl at high level when the game was still played at tournaments.
@@MeshTheSnake And i'm pretty sure they would admit it was shit.
Notice how HugS’s intro is beer being poured into a glass. This implies he was under the influence during this video, and shouldn’t be taken seriously! In reality, Brawl is the second best smash game, behind only ultimate. Followed closely is Super Smash Flash 2, coming in third.
I feel that the Ultimate Community absolutely is not gonna go crazy with this video due to the simple fact that many within the Ultimate Community either
A. Have not touched Brawl Competitively in any way or
B. Will likely agree with this video.
I'm still salty at Nintendo for releasing that trash game. It was such a huge deal when brawl was announced and the time following before its release. The second brawl was released the competitive smash scene would always be divided. And it would take an entire year before melee would come back from the dead
Watching this video brought back some deep memories. I started Melee competitively in ‘06 and when Brawl came out it truly was a disappointment. Doc kids will never understand the deep hurt Melee fans went through. Going on the smash bros site ever day for the daily tidbits, the excitement that by default this would be an upgrade to Melee in the same manner 64 to Melee was, just for it to be that crappy product. I remember the SoCal E3 demo comments and from what I remember they nerfed the offensive options even more afterwords. I’m telling you, this could’ve been a 5 minute video. But you had to live through that era to understand why this was such a long video.
cope harder 🤡 brawl still outsold
ok but seriously who cares? have you played subspace emissary
Fun fact, in brawl everytime you input something theres a random 0 to 2 frames of input lag, so that tight and difficult spotdodge punish will be randomly even more difficult through no fault of your own, moving a 5 frame input window to something like a 3 frame input window.
Wait seriously??!!
@@sonriku7331 smashboards.com/threads/input-delay-in-brawl.331376/ and th-cam.com/video/NyAt2j7L-4E/w-d-xo.html at 10 minutes in, these are my sources anyway
hugs talking about getting destroyed by snake for 25 minutes
Real hot take there, Hugs
17:02 "...it's not cause Melee players are elitist and they just wanna hate on things; it's just, our game is f*cking sick, and that game was one of the worst games I've ever played as a fighting game..."
LOL!! Never change, Melee community 💖😎
Ok, but he did say "as a fighting game" which changes things completely
And btw, I have never played Melee once, I just find the competitive scene more interesting than Ultimate's
@@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 ik what he was saying, I just thought it sounded funny. :) I only play Ult and I 100% agree that Melee's comp scene is the most interesting...and that melee's buffer system and insane history makes it the sickest smash game imo. I used to play it casually but nowadays... "WE'RE NOT WORTHY" lol
@@memedumpster3684 yeah, and you're right it did sound funny, I was just pointing out how it wasn't exactly the case if there was an emphasis on the "as a fighting game" part of what he said.
I remember playing it with a friend of mine on release, and the first thing we tried was wavedashing and everything from melee and away from the fact that those moves werent in it, it felt really bad.
The subspace tho, that was amazing
It entirely depends if you consider brawl a competitive game or a casual game. Cause as a casual game brawl was awesome! Subspace, 3rd party characters, better graphics, tons of new content, etc. However as a competitive game I believe it’s the absolute worst of the series.
I got to disagree with you there i truly believe smash 4 was the worst
"that's a 30k view video"
30k views as I watch it
Hugstradamus has entered the chat
Frame 1: Haven't even watched this video, but I love the click bait title. God bless you Hugo
Then we got Ultimate spot dodges..
Which stale
which you cant spam bc they stale and just arnt as op
spot dodges are annoying but not even rly that good
@@Keeby. they are super good. Pro players use the spot dodge canceling all the time lol. What. Just cause they stale doesnt mean the mechanic isnt good or stupid. Should be removed.
@@mehgamer467 pros dont spam them bc they arnt dumb
thats like saying a low tier is good bc a pro uses them
@@Keeby. i never said the spammed. They use them a good amount because its a good mechanic. It needs to be removed entirely and even pros agree with this.
People act as though we wanted to dislike Brawl. Who would want to be disappointed by the new edition in the franchise.
Wasn't Mojo a young kid? I'm pretty sure I was at a brawl tournament in San Bernadino where mojo was causing some hype with his Snake. One of those first melee/brawl tournaments I went to in Cali.
It's always sad to acknowledge this as Brawl is the game through which I got into competitive Smash and picked my favorite player (M2k). But yeah competitively... not the best
still better than smash 4 n ult
@@jawbreakerHxC facts
I respectfully disagree. Although everybody knows brawl wasn't the best competitively, it was still overall a very fun game casually. People like you (no offense) need to realise that smash isnt only about the competitive aspects. I loved brawl and will always love it for the joy it brought me.
If the only character in brawl was meta knight it would be a better competitive game
If someone played vs a casual player with Icies and just chain-grabbed them all day long, im pretty sure the casual would hate that game pretty fast.
The only reason a game like this is fun for casuals is because nobody is good at it. The second people start getting good is when the game becomes unfun since its just boils down to a bunch of gimmicks to win. And Items dont even really make the situation that much better. Metaknight still wrecks everyone else with items on on basically any stage.
Saying its not only about competitive aspects only works if the people playing the game arent very good. The second anyone in that friend group looks up how to play metaknight or something, itll no longer be fun for anyone.
Other smash games are a LOT more fun casually because they arent as focused on gimmicks.
This video is from a competitive player lol. So what are you expecting? Its mostly about the competitive aspects. Most agree casually its one if not the best
MehGamer if icies didn’t exist the game will be competitive interesting
Not explosive like melee but with more neutral and mind game
A brawl documentary would be so cursed
It'd basically be an interview with M2K
@@chrismdb5686 As much as I'd want that...
Playing Brawl in a non-casual way feels exactly the same as playing p m special smash with mini mode (a pain in the ass)
I think people who like Brawl like it casually, because there's Subspace Emissary and a bunch of new content in Brawl. But competitively, I think you're right: this game was a competitive DISASTER. Even if you remove the best character in the game for balance, you still have a bunch of characters who can chain grab from 0 to death, and especially Ice Climbers. That combined with the stuff in this video, and you have one of the worst competitive games in the world.
dedede's spot dodge went so far into the z axis that you literally could not hit him ever
Subspace Emissary is arguably more hype than Smash tournaments
Wow, that was bold of you to say Subspace Emissary was the worst story mode in Smash
I drove from Detroit to Baltimore with Anther, Shaeden and Lain to play Japanese Brawl at Pound 3. That game is fucking garbage.
I think the reason Hugs couldn’t deal with Brawl Snake is because he couldn’t washdash back - f smash
Competitively no, casually yes
From a competitive standpoint Brawl is definitely not the best game out there. Not even a good one. But from just a normal game standpoint as in a non-competitive standpoint, the game is still great.
What is Hugs’ opinion on PM
Man I loved playing brawl in college. I wasn't into comp yet, but we had a blast just using the game as intended.
That distinction about neutral is something I wish more post-Melee Smash players would understand.
Well said though. Despite being a spontaneous rant you spoke well.
@Hugs86 - I think you forgot 3 things. 1. the game is also coded like shit and is hilariously inefficient, everything takes forever to load. 2. even casuals disliked the game sometimes because a lot of the items were hilariously overpowered and frustrating. 3. The stages were *so bad* and it took us years to ban them because the entire stage list was warped around MK and ICs. Hard agree with the rest though.
i'm glad that when I played brawl it was very casual and my cousins and I didn't play meta knight or IC's
The thing with Brawl is that a large majority of matchups basically were either 50/50 or were hard counters.
There was very little in-between (as seen here: www.ssbwiki.com/Character_matchup_(SSBB))
The best melee spotdodge rounds up as well, so it's 64 and snake spotdodge is 77% invincible, not 81%, i mean the point still stands, but the numbers are just wrong x)
I was an OG N64 smash player. Me and the boys played played tons of melee. I absolutely hated Brawl. I would lay down the controller and walk away from all the metaknight abusers.
An awful trend seems to have started in Brawl which was to make moves have more start up but less endlag compared to their melee counterparts. This makes actions simultaneously hard to punish on whiff /and/ hard to use to punish a whiff. It's prevalent in every game to have prediction and conditioning be a part of their meta, but as the series went on it became more and more of the game, with fundamental bait and punish gameplay going by the wayside. It even extends to the bottom tiers, just look at Smash 4 ganon's unpunishable up smash, or higher tier in ultimate Falcon's, or in the worse cases, pancaking pikachu aerials in ultimate.
I appreciated high level play but didn't want to research anything at all about Brawl because I didn't want my friends telling me I win due to researching more, or playing more often. This led me trying to play the game like melee years into the games lifespan, and getting SO frustrated at myself when I lost cause I thought I was just really bad. Ultimately I WAS bad cause I didn't catch on to what works and what doesn't just by playing.
He’s so angry. And I love it because Brawl made me mad too back in the day
Metaknight was great in this game..they should have made other characters better for 4 rather than making him worse.
no bc thats how you make a game a mess where everyone dies at like 20
Its like a real fighting game where only 1 or 2 moves are safe off block but then brawl says fuck you you cant use those moves anymore.
I wonder how much salurai knows about the new role back net code and how people are still playing Maile and still finding out stuff and doing crazy things like amsah tech and manipulating ECB
I think brawl was actually the best game to play. Competitively it was ass and stupid. But if we are looking at it as a kids party game, everyone scrambling for the smash ball and as you're about to press b your character trips and gets hit so hard the smash ball comes out just so some other guy with a poke ball thrown can get it...
yeah you're right fuck this game.
Im commenting so hugs gets more money
@WhisperX06 but hes not getting the like or subscribe cause i dont want the money to go to his head
I was never told if hugs hugs... not epic fam.
Brawl is the worst for me cuz of the lack of hitstun, and the existence of metaknight and ice climbers just breaks the game by invalidating 98% of the cast :/
Bro, spot dodge became cancer after melee.
I feel like brawl was a fitting game for the Wii, because the Wii was the first console for many people and it makes sense to have an easy game
Hugs can you watch esam’s reaction to this video?
with P+ being as good as it is there is legitimately no reason to play Brawl
Hugo got a rediculously good editor wtf
I mean, yeah. Worst for competing. Runner up for casual.
I'm not all the way through the video- I'm right at the beginning as of writing this, but I want to say that I hate Smash 4 way more than I could ever hate Brawl.
EDIT:
That said, there was nothing but facts in this video. The only reasons I liked playing Brawl were Meta Knight, Falco chaingrab, and Diddy Kong glide toss infinites.
Smash 4 somehow managed to remove everything fun about video games to ever exist. It's so bad
This video is just saying Brawl is a bad competitive game, which is already well known and is barely even a part of Smash. In fact, if you were to give the average player a choice between Brawl and Melee, they would most likely choose Brawl without hesitation. For one, I would argue it had the best single player out of any Smash game to date due to Subspace Emissary. But that’s an obvious reason, now let’s look at the things that were added. Brawl, in my opinion, is when character designs in smash started to get really creative. The first character that comes to my mind is Olimar, who requires resource management skills to play effectively. Not to mention all of the new items and stages. All in all, hatred for Brawl is really just a sign of being close minded. The reason you most likely got into Smash in the first place was to have some brainless fun. So, if you are going to critique Brawl and call it a legitimately bad game, you better come up with arguments that ruin the experience of an average player, or you might as well be as qualified to judge a games quality as a cactus.
He's very obviously a comp player talking to other comp players.
There's 0 need to specify that he's strictly talking about competetively.
Snakes U-Tilt beats Captain Falcons everything!
Showing some support to the guy who beat me in winners R2 in Plano way back in the day lol.
Love you Hugo. Funny man.
15:29 but what would happen if you tried to shield it?
tldr-
Because it is
As a competitive game? Yeah, shitty game. But it had the most content for causal players so... It did what it was set to do.
A fighting game is forever doomed if the gameplay sucks, therefore Brawl is indeed the worst.
Obviously Melee is the best, then i have Ultimate and 64.
Hugs using a calculator to determine the percentage of 11/33: 🤔🤔🤔
Me:😑😑😑
best competitive smash format: Sm4sh with custom movesets
(trolling obviously)
I agree about Brawl being terrible. On another note I stand by what I said. No one should ever karaoke Queen unless they can absolutely nail it. But Hugs or the mods or whoever can have a different opinion, thats cool except I got banned from the twitch channel for having this opinion lol.
brawl singles bad. brawl doubles: it's alright lol
Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoy this video, but it’s kinda 3 minutes of information spread over 22 minutes 😅
And I was gonna say the same thing as ESAM... the number of frames of invuln matter in 1v1 competitive MUCH more than %. It means you have to fully relearn to time stuff (since moves are also slower), but that’s my take on it.
I will say though: I do 100% agree that it’s the worst (Competitive!) smash game :)
I will always respect Melee and love its legacy, albeit I moved on to Project M, mostly. Still, Project M lives because of Melee's legacy, and as such, Melee has always been dear to me.
People didn't hate on brawl because they had an inherent fanatical attachement to Melee. The success of Project M before Nintendo got invovled is evidence of this. Really, if Nintendo wants to take down Melee, all they need to do is take what was good about Melee and improve it. It's that ridiculously simple
What do you mean no one has fun when my opponent gets to 999% from me spamming grab on them as dedede.