Stolen Valor Village Idiots- Veterans Discounts & More (Marine Reacts)
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The homeless vet thing is surely just desperation
Living out in the cold with no hope
I sort of sympathise
Maybe I'm wrong
who fucking cares Alice!
You are a sham to use actual people who served as a "like and subscribe" clips. You been reported. Stay hidden, you'll live longer.
how do we kno ur right some trump supporter who also stealing valor? 🤔🤔🤔
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I'm guilty of stolen valor. When I was 10 years old, I dressed up as a Navy SEAL for Halloween. I had the woodland boonie hat, green face and everything.
we all dressed up. me included. kids dont count
@James Mcn 🤣
Halloween is Halloween lad your not attempting to get stuff in return, your out to have fun.
You need turn yourself in immediately.
get ready to be famous, scumbag >:^(
I was Airborne in the “Salvation Army” attached to the 43rd Bell Ringers Group stationed at Walmart.
May God Bless you for your bell ringing service, sir!
The good ol' 43rd!!! We lost a ton of good bell ringers during operation "beg at the mall" when we inserted via wheelchair ramp. "Ding Dong, Some of the way"
Walmart at Christmas....WOW, I bet you got combat pay for that. LOL
Around November, December...walking thru the mall...I love the smell of cinnamon in the morning...
was your MOS a GREETER ? :-)
As a vet, who finally (I'm 72) got my status on my liscense to take advantage of discounts, I was surprised to see the apparent doubt shown by checkers and cashiers whenever I mentioned the vet discount.
I see now that many people will try to scam this little perk
Exactly it’s best to not even act like we serve , people don’t believe anything they didn’t see nowadays
Only thing worse than Stolen Valor is faking a disability it's the same level of low-down behavior takes a real sorry person to do this. Thank all you real vets for making our life's as free as possible. You are all hero's and always will be.
Stealing combat valor is worser than faking some disabilities in my opinion.
I was once a Navy Seal but my mom turn off my xbox and I wasn't a Seal anymore
LOL
That must have been so dramatic! did she court martial you ? we got a support group for that brother!!
Forced early retirement .
Very funny
i salute ya my guy😤
" I was a cook in the Navy,..." He worked mess deck on the USS Captain Crunch.
"Crunchatize me Cap'n!!"
lol............
@@briangoldy8784 ola meu qeuerido Boa tarde tudo bom com você?
@James Reilly One of the few of these numb nuts to say " I was a cook,...." Not claiming to be Special Forces, Seal Team 6, etc.
My father was Air Force, Airman 2nd Class, Occupation of Japan 1951 - 52. He never bragged or embellished his service. He was in the American Legion, and wore his decorations proudly at every veteran's parade and event he could attend.
I was a homeless vet, and anytime I was questioned on it, I had no problem answering any queries put to me. All the homeless vets around my area, we all knew who was who, their service and what each of our MOS, NEC, etc. was. We saw anyone claiming vet status, we would ask our questions and if it didn't ring true, w ran their ass off.
To me, one of the funniest things about those officers walking around wearing Christmas trees on their chests is that civilians don't really realize just how basic so many of those medals are. Some are the equivalent of being able to spell your name, a few others just doing your job, others for completing training and yet others from military campaigns you were never part of.
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It's all wrong civilians should not be able to get hold of medals and decorations, even the uniforms should be only if you're serving and if your wearing a medal that was given to you and by the way in its self is just unforgivable to give medals away they still belong to the military really unless there handed down from parent to child or family members as a keep sake and not to be worn in public.But to make some bullshit shite up to someone that has served is completely ridiculous.
@@lea-rw5cb So you'd try to regulate military decorations like they're firearms?
People might be touchy about this when it happens, but it doesn't happen anywhere near often what it would take before it became any real issue. And even then there's the part about not more than maybe 23 people actually giving a sh!t that it's happening.
Most people go their entire lives without encountering a single person making a point of convincing us they have more of a military record than they do.
they have some good ass stories though...lol Dude was a machine gunner on a submarine...lol
oh yeah. machine gunner, drove the sub and seal. that is a unique seal. man over board drive on a sub. ah ok.
He the type of guy to ask someone to crack a window on a submarine underwater
He should have said he was a door gunner on a submarine
This is for screen door repairman , submarine duty.
These heroes are incredible. I don't even think Jocko Willink could keep up with this warrior.
12:45 ""I was a *Different* kind of Seal"
Yeah, more like a Walrus
LMAO
He was on the 'seal team' which looked for leaks on the submarine. He was armed with a caulking gun.
lol. I was drinking coffee and then had to clean it up thanks to you.
😂
That guy was my favorite part I nearly rolled outta my bed.
I have an ex-father-in-law who throws bs at people. He says he was in the air force. He has a massive lazy eye. This guy can look in two different directions at the same time. That must have come in handy during a dog fight.
I worked with a tugboat captain who would take on the military persona of what ever Patterson book he was reading at the time. He was everything from a river rat to an officer on a sub marine in Vietnam. We never called him out on it because it was good fodder among the crew when he wasn’t around. When comparing the different stories everyone heard it was quite comical.
My dad went to Vietnam, and can still recite every technical detail about his service, as if it were yesterday. He can’t remember the groceries list anymore, but he’ll never forget his service.
Lol The threat of a drill sergeant yelling at him is probably a great reminder.
I've forgotten quite a few things about my time in the german air force, and that ended "only" 15 years ago. I can't even remember my serial number. H-7...something.
@@FriedrichHerschel
I still remember my "name, rank and number". Left in '86.
@@ahorsewithnoname643 I don't know how it is in the USA, if you need this number after you left service (for example for VA), so that you once in a while still need/see it.
@@FriedrichHerschel
I'm not sure what what America does either. I didn't serve in the American forces but with 🇳🇿. After I left, a medal was introduced for those who had completed a certain number of years service. When I applied that was the only time on the outside I used my name, rank and number.
When I served in German Army, I visited U. S. Barracks in Heidelberg. There was a store with army supplies. They had a big medal collection for sale. I asked the staff, which is the most important medal for sale. He showed me the purple heart.
I would not even think about buying it, not even as a souvenir. Some things belong to those who deserved it.
Giebelstadt, south of Wurzsburg cool fun time in Germany 365 ADA
BRAVO -- I was in Nam in 69-70 and was close to a B-52 raid and it vibrated a concrete pillar loose and hit me and wounded me in the head.. The Captain wanted to put me up for a Purple Heart. I told him please sir, no. He obliged when I told him to wait until I got hit with a mortar or an A K 47 round.. Thankfully I never got it.. Thanks for your respect for the medals awarded to our soldiers for the sacrifices they make.. They belong only to those who have earned them..
Patton brks 81 85, great place.
@@theodorehatchett7616 as far as I remember, that shop was at Patrick Henry Village. My serving was at Tompkins Barracks in Schwetzingen.
Not going to lie, I sailed on ships and don't remember their numbers
My Father was in the Royal Nay and served his country from an early age.all through WW2 Never had to wear them in civilian life to prove his bravery. Only came out on remembrance day. A great dad and mentor.
"Son, Don't jump in the out house, and then come calling on your Old Man for a clean suit." - Dad 1978
Several years ago I bought some medals from a company to use as props (not to be worn). Several were clearly reproductions, but there was one they would not sell me without a "copy of your DD214 for the Army DSM." Kudos to them for looking out.
I was part of the Air Force, the 1st Paranormal division. Our job was to keep our fingers crossed the planes didn't crash.
It doesn't work. I was in the Air Force. I saw two plane crashes and I was one of the first people to arrive at the scene of a helicopter crash immediately after it happened.
@@LucidDreamer54321 The things you see when you're lucid dreaming dude lol
@Paulus lind Unfortunately, they were real, and someone died at the scene of the helicopter crash. You can do a Google search for "1993 Kadena Air Base helicopter crash".
@@LucidDreamer54321 Es tut Mir leid dude I thought you were joking apologies 😉
damn man, we shoulda put you into the f22's that kept going down (bit of hyperbole, only 2 crashes resulted from the issue) because exhaust was feeding back into the oxygen masks and causing pilots to pass out. This was back in... 2010? 2011? somewhere around there.
“ he’s got a collection of garbage there” 😂😂😂
Yea I like that bit too.
Right when I was reading this he said it
One of them was a Good Conduct Ribbon. You only get those every three years of good conduct with no Captains Mast or major discipline problems on your service record. I had several minor infractions and I still had two good conduct ribbons after Seven years.
Lmfao
about half of it looks like the Air Force JROTC ribbons my daughter has
Former Veterans Benefits Administration employee here, working primarily in evidence collection to support claims for disability compensation. I spotted two types of errors that constitute attempted stolen valor, including medals accepted by the VA as evidence of combat experience, in vet-supplied documents in support of his claim. I took it to the vet’s service organization personally and told them if that vet calls, tell him he’s a damn liar. I’m not going to identify the clues because I don’t want to give them away.
The royal marine segment, they were at a Remembrance Day parade. Virtually every village and city in the UK has a parade and all the veterans will join the parade thru town. A friend of mine and I walked in the parade at Lakenheath in 2009 he was a Navy vet and I was Army. Had a great time celebrating with all the old-timers and younger vets.
I would never brag about my time as Space Shuttle door gunner doing blacks ops out of Luner Base Alpha 1.
Lol.
I remember having to secure a space tanker that went dark got 75 confirmed railgun kills and 1 with a plunger
Hahaha...good one!! I was on the support trashcan next to you shooting my pellet gun at space bats
@Me Smith 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👽👽👽🚀🚀🌛
@Me Smith I am from Hawai'i. My first duty station was NAS Whidbey Island second NAS Lemoore. Docked at Pearl, never stationed there. I be KamaAina that's the reason for the "Aloha" to my Brother-in-Arms. Thanks.
For anyone wondering, that English drunk was trying to claim that he had fought during the Falklands war but talked himself into a corner in pretty short order. He was lucky that the guys calling him out were so mild mannered. A lot of guys in the Royal Marines, Parachute Regiment, Welsh Guards etc. lost mates down there. Bang out of order.
Rob was he wearing the right para wings on that jacket? I know that the SAS wear different wings than all the other services, but I'm not sure what they look like.
why can't these scammers and imposters just go into historical military reenactments instead? it's like you can play any famous military hero you like of any battle (made up ones too) by spending your own money and time and educate the public and commemorate veterans altogether? or is that too much work for them?
My dad had his WW2 medals stolen, I wear lots of military surplus clothing but I wear it in a way that nobody could mistake me for service personnel, if anybody asks I make it 1000% clear that the nearest I got to military service was 20 years as a mechanical engineer on a military base as civilian support staff.
I love your videos, now that I am too old to serve I regret it. I had no idea that my father was a Sgt. in the Air Force until his funeral at Calverton cemetery on Long Island,
because he never talked about it. Keep up the good work.
I did 20 years in the Navy and if someone asked me what my MOS was I couldn't tell them because the Navy doesn't have MOS's. In the Navy a job is called a Rating which may be broken down into specific jobs and labeled as an NEC. So yes, these guys pretending to be military disgust me but someone saying that any ex-military person will know what an MOS is is wrong.
I’ve always been proud to say I was a reservist and a Marines and all in Peacetime and no problem telling them I was just a mechanic lol and a mechanic in my day-to-day job for city
@Confederate Hero My Dad did the same job you did a bit earlier than you. He had his designation as Air Policeman (1948-68) change several times, it jumps around his DD214's. Originally they were MP's and then AP's. About the time he retired they became SP's and about the time I retired they became Security Forces. During my time I had two AFSC's, 328X3 and 753X0 (I swapped back and forth several times, not always my decision). I finished my career as a 3P1X1 (Nine Level Superintendent at the 99th GCTF at Nellis AFB in 97). Have a great day.
I was in the AF for 6 years and I don't remember much of the technical details at all. Especially what my AFSC was. Or that it was called AFSC. I have a dd form 214 for that. (*checks dd form 214*). AFSC 81170 (Security Police). And not 6 years, but 5 years 2 months. But close enough. Got out in 90. That was 31 years ago and was never in any kind of danger or combat, so I think I can be cut some slack. :). I have two sons in the AF now, and they tell me they aren't called Security Police anymore, they are Security Forces, and are still taken very seriously by the Marines. NOT. LOL.
@Confederate Hero Sec Fo huaaaa🤝🏾 I’m currently a defender too and I was going to say the same thing like Air Force doesn’t have an mos.
@Confederate Hero yeah ik. Air Force specialty code. I was saying that yeah it’s not called and mos lol. And same. I’m 3pox1 too. Security forces. I just called it SecFo for short
He’s a “different” kind of seal… the kind that does tricks for sardines.
Yup, & I bet the 'tricks' aren't balancing balls on his nose. Well, actually...😳
Cause of hitting his head on the torpedo and had an out of body experience
He was a porpoise. They’re only hand-picked from SEALs, and nobody’s ever heard of them because they’re just so elite.
Or one who can no longer keep sand out of a bearing
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Thanks for exposing these idiots.
"I was a different kind of seal" yeah, a walrus 🤥
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I found the hardest part about being a seal was balancing a ball on my nose that took a while
Once a Walrus you are always a part of the brotherhood! Much respect!
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General Robert E Lee gave me a medal for fighting General Grant in hand to hand combat.
The most epic thumb-war battle ever.
wait, you were a confederate traitor? and a loser? thats too bad my man! MERICA!
Lucky you!
I got mine after being wounded in the battle of Tripoli. Still got a nasty scar from that corsair's scimitar.
@Ch h I see youre a traitor as well lol yall expose yourselves so easily. btw he was trading the american flag for confederate one. were they not? TRAITORS
So many phonies ,I had an ex RAF guy bring a former RM to a club thinking he would expose me but in a few seconds he was the one who got embarrassed when the former Marine knew me as Blood 709😂
I always feel bad for people who go the stolen valor route. Their lives are inadequate to them, and they are always going to feel inadequate. That sucks. Even in Somalia, one of the guys I worked with would tell stories about what a great hero he was in Desert Storm. I was there the same time and place he was, and I knew he didn't do any of the BS he was pushing. But people are people, and I just figure he needed to feel worthy, and didn't. I didn't bust him. Maybe they believed him. Maybe they didn't.
The people who complain about are even more inadequate. How sad does your life have to be that you complain about someone playing dress up.
"Village Idiots" has to be my new favorite term for Stolen Valor dumbos.
I loved it when it came to me. It’s my new one.
Why?
When I was homeless I wouldn't say a word about my time in US NAVY I was to ashamed and that's why iam not homeless today.
They have to help people like you.Instead of playing sherrif
I agree. It’s not okay for them to lie like that but come on man. His life is hard enough just leave him alone.
Homeless or not, you should NEVER be ashamed of your time serving your country!! I am sorry the shitty US government didn't do something to keep you from being homeless. That's the shame! I was lucky; I had parents that put me up when I got out while I got a 2 year degree in electronics/computer science. It was a trade school, and I used my GI Bill to pay for some of it. I had help from them, got started off on the right civilian foot. The government should provide some form of "get out" help for veterans'. Now, I got out 27 years ago. I hope something has changed for the better concerning those EAS from the military.
Also don’t say you were dishonorably discharged like he said at the beginning because that’ll make things worst. You’re no longer called a veteran. If you listen closely at what he said that he was a cook in the navy and then punched an officer, that’s from the movie Under Siege.
@@billyruprecht9581 just for your information, I was honorably discharged and my problems started after that. I should have been a lifer.
10:00 That guy's describing the plot to the comedy Down Periscope! 🤣
I'm a former Marine and in all honesty, I find these guys dressed up hysterical. I wouldn't care one bit if I ran into them.
I'm a salvation army veteran. I was attached to the 43rd Santa division. Dressed as Santa, and rang a bell.
Dangerous work.
@@johnbockelie3899 That was top secret now you will have to answer, General Kringle! LOL!
Kinda same bro lol it’s sad funny
@@lastremnantdeliverancemini4929 The reason why it's so funny is that rarely did I even wear my uniform in public settings. Blues maybe a few times. Utilities never unless I was in transit and or on Toys for Tots duty.
So when I see one of these guys all dressed up with medals especially as Navy Air Force or Army I laugh my ass off. If they dress as Marines I still find it funny but not as funny. LOL!
@@bh5975 Man my sentiments exactly! I think these guys are too afraid to try Marines Corps very much but yet have the audacity to fake Navy Seal? Like man you got some gonads on you. Maybe why we do see too many Marine fakers is because Marines like us tend to get really religiously butt hurt and aggressive 😂
Navy doesn't use the term "MOS." We use the term "Rate."
When I was in I never asked anyone there mos. If we became friends it would be hey what do you do. I dont know many of the numbers anyways nor cared.
Was gonna say the same. Although, even Fireman Timmy and Ensign Johnny probably know what someone means when they ask our 'MOS.'
The AF uses "AFSC" Air Force Specialty Code.
''RATING''' describes enlisted occupation ...'' RATE''' is the rank of an enlisted Sailor .
I love drilling people about what their MOS is
because I'm fat, long haired and covered in tattoos
everyone always finds it quite funny
WHATS UR MOS
bro u dont even know what an MOS is
YEAH BUT I HEARD IT ON TH-cam
The last guy was one of the most infamous of the elite Gravy Seals.
Biscuits and gravy eating champ.
He got that tbi when he fell out of a booth at Dennys after some hard time “training”
Pretty positive that the first guy's ribbons come from selling the most extended auto warranties to grandmas living in Florida. If he hosts just two more Tupperware parties, he gets a fistful of Purple Hearts.
I told someone I was a "disabled Clone War vet" once and they believed me. Is that stolen valor? For those who don't get the joke, it is from Star Wars.
Pfft! Clone Wars.
I survived Hoth.
@@-Subtle- Hoth? I survived Endor
@@n7captain916 Pssh, I survived Alderan
I survived BOTH Death Star assaults. This medal here? Personally given to me by Princess Leia. I flew B-wings in both assaults.
Get on my level bitches, I walked in on Palpatine after he got outta the shower and lived to tell the tale. Was sneeking around the death star under leias orders and BOOM! Got PTSD after that. Looked like a long, gray, raisin. Thing looked weirder than anything in that damn galaxy. There's my story. I tell it every Christmas.
I actually feel sorry for these people, in the end. Just how empty does one's life have to be to live out some sort of false fantasy?
is like believing in Flat Earth
No fantasy. It’s for free stuff and scamming people.
@@8Junio76 not quite as bad as believing you live on a spinning ball
@@johnnythunderbass 😂😂😂😂
If someone were to be wearing military uniforms to act out kinky scenes with their lover, that's okay as long as it's done in private. But as Clip That said, people in public who are impersonating servicemembers are motivated by acquiring freebies and other forms of compensation. That's not only illegal, but it's awful.
That moustache was one the most Royal Marine things I've seen in a while.
I'm impressed how so many of you took your service so much to heart that you at least claim to remember all the dates of this or that, or the entire list of your decorations that almost come with the uniform. 🤣
Faithful and True, Booty Duty First!
Based on his waistline I thought he said, “...we were expandable.”
He's got a built in life ring. Must be black ops tech
@@moonbreath1637 ROTFLMFAO!!!
I was pfc on the SS diarrhea
Wow so original and funny
I was a cook. Really dangerous . grease could catch fire easily. Dangerous sharp knives. Really dangerous.
I hate when soldiers died on the battle field and these people do this smh
+1
Infinite Eon Not just us soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen that died but those of us wounded, disabled, amputees. Many other veterans that are homeless, unemployed, ill, suffering. If someone who is a veteran who have served they should be proud of whatever MOS, AFSC, RATE they may have done not something they were never. Many of the frauds never served cause they can’t even come up with a DD-214 member 4 post 1960’s.
@@asianfighter62 ik man where im from you cant wear camo unless in the amry or navy
The uniform means nothing. It's the person behind it.
@@ChuukeseStink Yeah but village idiots will still try and steal credit (unless a vet calls them out) by looking like those same people in the uniform(s)
Unbelievable !!The older so-call SEAL, realy believes himself...Amazing.
Lol, that thumbnail is like playing your entire CD collection, ALL AT ONCE!
I've interviewed WWII and Korean veterans that had dementia at 70+ years of age. They couldn't tell me their daughters name, but they could rapidly spit out anything and everything about their lives in the military.
Bang on!
Remember their C.O.s name, their Sergeants name and the 'crazy' guy's name who always got into trouble
Navy = no MOS, guys! Navy uses NECs and rates/ratings.
Bingo, Navy Enlisted Classification not MOS
Oh no wonder he couldn't figure out what the guy was asking about. : )
Yup
Also USAF specialties are AFSC. No MOS. But the BS is deep.
Hopefully the Navy doesn't try and do away with rates again due to the PC culture.
US veterans see stolen valor: I HAD FRIENDS WHO DIED IN THAT UNIFORM!!!!
UK veterans see stolen valor: Politely gives the fraud a series of pointers on how to get away with it in the future 🤣
In the British military, the dark green Green Beret is worn by commandos. The guy on the right is a Royal Marine. The middle guy with the dark glasses is wearing a fake navy badge and the beret is wrong (it's an AGC beret - you'll notice it's a lighter shade of green). Naval Green Berets are either Royal Marines, Fleet Air Arm commandos or SBS.
Actually, the RN (officer's) beret badge was available in this tin version, but few liked it or used it - in my day at least. It turning up on a green beret is somewhat unusual though - not many RN officers went though Lympstone!
Navy doesn't use MOS. They use NEC or Navy Enlisted Classification code. I would not expect a Navy cook or Mess Specialist to know what an MOS is.
Halfway true, Navy uses Rates. A NEC is a speciality within your Rate. I.E if you are a GM (Gunners Mate) you could have an NEC as a Vertical Launch Systems tech. Which is NEC 0981. Now a basic GM has a detailer used NEC to identify them as a "basic gm" but for normal sailor purposes they would be a quad ball GM (Nec 0000) if they have no speciality. I feel like most people know MOS is a job...lol
I am in the air force and someone asked me for my mos. We use afsc. So I looked like a fool for not knowing another services name for job classification
We use "rates" so when I asked other branches I said MOS.
It's still called rate. The NEC a speciality within the rate.
I was a Hospital Corpsman for over Three years with the Marines and knew several of their MOS's.
Motor Pool, Infantry, Mess, Engineer, Radiomen, Flight deck.
The medal that has one half wing is a ballonists wing award.
To find this in the books you would have to go back several decades.
My Warrant was a balloonist anti submarine warfare tech, I know this award.
That's interesting. I never even heard about that award.
To be fair, we don't use the term MOS in the Navy. We say "rating" for our job and "rate" for our pay grade. Enlisted hold rate, officers hold rank.
Reminds me down here in FL with all the 60 year old vietnam vets. LOL Was even at walmart last year and they had all their veterans and the war they served in on a big sign. One guy was claiming to be a WWI veteran. And I'm thinking, he's either 125 years old or went to war at birth.
As someone who never served. I’m so fascinated with these people who pretend to be former military. Because I’m so ignorant to all of the dress codes, jargon, etc.. it makes me wonder how many people I have encountered that were liars. To all who have served thank you.
there's a youtuber drill sergeant named "Angry Cops" (great channel) and he did a video teasing some _real_ military very high leader who was caught in his formal uniform with his rows of pins on upside down and I was like... whoa! yeah. These guys know *_exactly_* what they're looking at. I very much admire this attention to detail in this totally broken world where we have people graduating from college who literally do know the difference between a girl and a boy. At least *_some_* standards of order remain intact among those who value *_HONOR_* thanks for serving guys... keep it legit, we need you!
Yea. SAS must be the biggest regiment in the UK judging by all the thousands of ex SAS vets I've met. 🙄 and spies 🤷🏻♂️
As a veteran , i dont care what you wear or do. Go ahead and wear dress blues with every medal and campaign medal, blue cord, french cord, fulled stacked, ranger SF tabbed. Go ahead and get thanks. Because deep down, they know how much they fucked up their chance to actually have all of that. And to the people who were born with disabilities, well, that fuckin sucks and for a minute they can be the hero they never could.
Thank god for Basic Training, if you are ignorant to these dress codes you could've endangered your whole unit... from weekend pass or night vacation.
@@moonshinepz never met anyone in Scotland pretending to be SAS. Or SBS. Ye can tell right away.
A lot of these guys are in the “very special” forces, I suspect.
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Yes they must have been in the 'special needs' (air born) dilutional squad.
6:10
I stopped confronting fake homeless vets.
Instead I hand them business cards for the local veteran center with the crises number written on the back. I tell them to call this number and they’ll get you off the street, feed, and a warm bed before dusk.
There are homeless vets who have stability problems and or mental health concerns, so tread carefully when trolling
I know of a man in Lenoir, North Carolina named William Derek Church who claims he was in the 75th ranger batallion and been shot 6 times in the chest.His mother and 1st wife says he never served.
The problem I have with Stolen Valor videos is that many of these guys go around accusing anyone wearing a uniform or parts of a uniform, or even some ribbons of stolen valor. As a 15 year vet I am disgusted by these scammers, but the people calling them out should know what the law is.
The Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Pub.L. 113-12 H.R. 258) makes it a "crime for a person to claim they have served in the military, embellish their rank or fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, "with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit" by convincing another that he or she received the award."
Awards specified include:
Medal of Honor
Distinguished Service Cross
Navy Cross
Air Force Cross
Silver Star
Bronze Star
Purple Heart
Combat Action Ribbon
Combat Infantryman's Badge
Combat Action Badge
Combat Medical Badge
Combat Action Medal
The first guy wearing some ribbons and a mini medal all jacked up on his shirt is not guilty of "Stolen Valor" because nothing on his shirt is included in the list of specified awards, and he specifically stated that he was never in the military. He said he worked with AP3.
The Authorized Provider Partnership Program - known as AP3 - allows the use of community volunteers to augment the legislated two-person uniformed detail for veteran funerals. This Department of Defense program, authorized by Section 1491(b) of Title 10, U.S Code, trains volunteers from veterans service organizations, or VSOs, and other approved groups to assist in providing military funeral honors as “authorized providers.” AP3 promotes community involvement and supports the family and friends of the deceased veteran. In addition, the combined funeral honor detail symbolizes the continuity of respect for deceased veterans from those who are serving and those who have served in the armed forces.
I noticed there was a bugle on that man's shirt pocket; providing a bugler for a vet's funeral is one of the services provided by AP3 if one cannot be found from local military members. Why was he wearing a National Defense Ribbon? He said he was told he could wear it by someone... I couldn't make out the name, and seriously, I don't care that he's wearing it; it's just some gedunk fruit cocktail. I feel that if the man is helping support the family members of a deceased vet, he's doing a helluva lot more than most.
Soooo I have a question and your response to these stolen valor videos leads me to believe you may be qualified to answer or advise me.
My question, I have for some time wanted to purchase and wear an item with a military logo on it, the marines logo to be specific, but fear this is disrespectful to people who actually served.
I have Zero intention to ever claim I served, but wish I actually had.
@@thomasshipley4516 Wearing something with ANY branch logo on it is totally ok. You are actually supporting their cause. Now if you try to claim you are a vet of the branch you wear a logo of, without having served, then people will have an issue. The Marine Corps sells sweatshirts/shirts/hats with the Corp logo on it at their bases. It provides PR for the military.
Now, I have never served, and have the utmost respect for ALL veterans. I play paintball, and we wear woodland BDU's-available everywhere and no longer in use by our military, and I have been at a McDonalds after playing and had a 20 something say I shouldn't be wearing those clothes as they were military! This child, who claimed to have been in the Army, really tried to get under my skin, until I emphatically told him that the pattern was obsolete for the military, was available at any surplus outlet, and most landscaping people wore them as they were cheap, durable, and comfortable. He finally left, and I am sure he had a mental issue and probably didn't ever finish basic. Just goes to show you that there are all types out there!
He was dressed like a security guard that works for a private security firm.
@@JLange642 thanks for the feedback it is what I hoped would be the answer. You have a great day
@@JLange642 vigilante justice on behalf of stolen valor is also an issue. there was a story of a legit 70 year old marine corps vet that wore his issues marine service dress blues from Vietnam war era on Memorial Day in public and got harrassed by the police. just wearing the uniform and stuff is not a crime. Getting money or VA benefits while wearing it if you aren't a vet is a crime.
"Turn off the camera"
that's how you know you were caught
This is clearly at a college career fair too, their job is to answer questions and he cant. What a clown haha
As soon as that guy said "expendable" my Rambo ll alarm went off. Glad you tore right into him.
That guy in the plaid shirt! 🤣🤣🤣 oh man he was indeed a “different kind of seal”
He didn't know what his job was in the Navy. I have known a few guys like that.
Lol so true
Ha ha
I dont know about that I served 8 years service in the navy as a boatswainsmate. I understand we dont call are occupation in the navy as a MOS but call it a rating.
@@markgarzia5614 nah nah he’s saying that some of are such drooling retards that we don’t even know what we do.
Navy actually doesn’t have MOS its called a rate. Just an FYI
It's actually a NEC Navy education classification
After reading thru some of the replies rate is correct and the NEC is a specialty within that rate.
Yea it's called a rate
@@gryan1966 Enlisted, not Education
@@Lmv2841 yeah I've been out for awhile l
In the Navy we don't call it MOS, we have NEC's and Ratings. I was an AD (Aviation Machinist Mate) Then we have specialties within that rating called NEC's (Naval Enlisted Classifications)
Keep up the great work!
Only Black Ops he served was “Call Of Duty”🎮😂
Lmao
Fucking Epic...........Pin Ball- Machine , Operator......lol..........
"Mason, what do the numbers mean?"
I wasn’t in the military myself (went straight into corrections and law enforcement rather than military after high school), but the homeless vet issue is a hot spot for me. My father served honorably in the army (Vietnam era) but held a stigma against using his V.A. benefits. He looked at it as being akin to welfare. After he became homeless and I took over his power of attorney, I had to storm the gates of hell (a.k.a the V.A.) to get him the housing and medical treatment he EARNED through his service. So the phonies who try to sprinkle fairy dust over people’s eyes and bamboozle them really irk me because we have real vets who desperately need those services but are hesitant to use them because of the natural stigma people have toward claimants due to the lies the phony vets bring upon the most honorable citizens of our great country.
Nice job watching out for your father.
Most personnel now are directed to the VA upon exit. It's an arduous and cumbersome task. Years in the making, Sorry your father had to go through so much to make it happen. I know it can be difficult.
These real vets are so hard headed when it comes to support they are OWED!
Hope it worked out OK with your Dad. they can be so stubborn and proud. It really aint easy
@@bogusmogus9551 Thanks, brother. He’s since passed, but we utilized his veterans benefits to bury him in a veteran cemetery in Tennessee with an honor guard. A proper final send off for him.
That's not unusual. We almost always think that there's somebody who's more deserving.
Yeah, this FIRST GUY? THAT'S HIS "T.S.A." (Thousands Standing Around), Equivalent Purple Bruise Medal, for getting a "Paper Cut", why shuffling paper!🤣
I’m getting sworn in today at meps. This video made my morning
My fathers a Vietnam vet proud to be his son and he’s still rocking like you are xD you guys have similar personalities I showed him some of these stolen valor videos and he reacted the same way
If he started a TH-cam channel like this I'd watch it 100%
Dylan Parsons I’m sure he’d appreciate the support like I do. I’m trying to convince him to do it
I'm certified by the DOD because I say so.
I am a space force ranger recon seal. Salute now and oh by the way here is my metal of honor.
Jamesons Travels here’s my “metal” of honor sir hah
Jamesons Space Force Dragon Door Gunner in the Space Mobile Infantry. :-)
Jamesons Travels space force millennium falcon pilot 😂
Jamesons Travels just say your in the 501st at that point
Even though it is rare, Australian Federal Police were awarded the Defence Australian Service Medal with the Clasp East Timor during the Invasion.
You have some classics there Mr Jamieson. We have the same knobs here in Australia mate.
I’m ex 3RAR (we lost the parachute role in 2011 - I got out in ‘85 so I never saw any action).
I simply can't get my head around why some people have a need to masquerade as military veterans. It's sick! Cheers from Australia
I always wanted to be in the military when I was younger. I had 2 uncles in the Air force during Vietnam and a Grandfather who served in WWII in the Sea Bees. When Desert Storm happened there were so many people volunteering my buddy and I was turned away by recruiters twice. So I went into Law Enforcement and Firefighting. I wear my Grandfathers Sea Bee ball cap every once and a while when I go out and about. Whenever someone starts to thank me for my service I'm quick to respond I wear this hat in memory of my Grandfather. I respect those who have served and who are serving and stolen valor is a vulgar thing. I hope nobody ever accuses me of stolen valor.
Especially when vets hung their heads low in the 70s and 80s. Then they gained respect and out come these pathetic bandwagon jumpers. A disgrace.
I dont think it's technically stolen valor to wear veterans stuff you've inherited or purchased just as long as you're wearing it to honor and respect or to educate. but if you're doing it to steal the identity of a living veteran for gain, then yep you could be busted.
You were turned away??? Did you have a foot growing out of your head of something?
I remember going on pass in AIT and running into a homeless “vet” who claimed to be a sniper with over 50 confirmed kills who used to be a captain. He asked me for my MOS, I told him it was 42A, and he claimed that I was a tanker.
Not a tanker lol but you can ruin someone life.
p I had to google this(I’m in the Navy and we use NECs) this is funny and true😂
I was in the US Navy for 8 years, my first 3 years I was a non striker and air department on board the USS Guam lph 9. My last 5 years I was a ICman taking care of the WSN5 gyros on board the USS Peterson DD 969, which we decommissioned in 2003 I think if I remember correctly. Then I went on board the USS Carter Hall LSD 50 out of Little Creek which is still afloat. You're the thumbnail picture with all the ribbons on the right side of the guys chest is just hilarious. I'm currently in the process of joining military sealift command as an electrician.
FYI….that fake British marines cap badge was not only fake, it was glued on!…..not sewn on!
That first guy looks like he got dressed up as a Delta pilot then half way through changed his mind.
After I retired - I worked part time in a cigar store. I witnessed with great laughter as one phony accused another phony of not serving. Over white shirt his right pocket he is wearing the bugle of the custer's 7th cavalry. The lone survivor of the battle. Most of these guys are mentally incapacitated. 46 years after Vietnam and all of sudden stolen valor is everywhere. The only mission that plaid shirt went on was a mission to the jelly doughnut outpost. I see this guys kind of seal at Sea world.
What you do buster, if Charlie had stolen all the jelly donuts?
I met some dude who thought I was just using an Iraq Veteran hat to get better tips while delivering pizzas. We were standing 5 feet from my car that has Purple Heart License plates. I nicely informed him that while anybody can get a hat: It takes a DD 214 to get the plates.
And you are still delivering pizza for walking your rifle
It's soooooooo funny seeing these people getting busted.
Thank you all who are really serving or who have really served.
2:45 Ap3 means he’s a funeral director that specializes or chooses to work on military funerals.
Can't tell if you're being serious or not.... 🤔
From Google AP3 is program used to help provide military funerals, members are pulled from veteran organizations and "other authorized groups". Apparently the online certification comes with a national defense ribbon, Navy SEAL Trident, SF long tab and the Metal of Honor. This guy is legit 👌
POS looked like a mortician.
@@elcruzer5514 pos looks like he belongs on the table.
@@williammcdonald519 lmao. That was some funny shit man 🤣.
I wear my high school certificates for the chess club on my overalls. I get looks of respect everywhere I go.
Damn bruh you tough
Remember the ribbons that we used to get for honor roll? My teachers would pin them to us, like we were special. Lol! Looking back now, it was pretty goofy.
I make bottle caps with Christmas ribbons...when I promote myself.
@@pillowbugg I have more of those than you!
Thank you for your service and congratulations to your success. 💪😏👉
I think the only time I have seen a case of stolen valor was when I was in downtown Kaiserslautern and saw a homeless looking guy wearing a Tropentarn uniform. Thing is he had US Warrant Officer 4 shoulder loops on his outfit.
Every time I encounter a homeless vet, I say let's get on the bus and go straight to the VA.
I work for the Dept. of Defense, they don't give out metals all we have are IDs showing we are Federal employees.
The Bugles Across America guy is just a bit befuddled. The organization (which is a non-profit and NOT a scam) is sanctioned by the DOD under their AP3 (not "AT3") program. Formally called the "Authorized Provider Partnership Program". It allows the use of civilian volunteers (former military or not) to assist in Military Funeral Honors. This is related to legislation that all veterans can have a military funeral if requested and at least 2 members from the armed forces will be provided (along with a flag). I don't think the guy should have been wearing the National Defense ribbon and I can't believe that Tom Day said he could (Tom Day is the founder of this roughly 5,000 member organization that provides live buglers to play Taps). I don't know what those other ribbons are. Bugles Across America DOES give out medals for various of their events (like the Boy Scouts do for hikes) but they aren't to be worn at funeral services. Maybe it was some of those. If so, I think wearing them outside of Bugles Across America is a gray area and probably could be misleading.
I am a retired Army NCO and retired DOD civilian. I received several awards while serving as a DOD civilian. You cannot, however get a national defense service ribbon as a civilian in the DOD.
The guy grilling the Brit Walt has the same knowing cheeky grin that Ricky Gervais does.
wow, exactly what i thought
I am surprised the stolen valor thing goes on in England. Probably no where near as big, IIRC some veterans like to hang around near the Winston Churchill statue to make sure protesters don't tear it down. The lefties seem to think Churchill was a genocidal racist, the youtuber how to drink even said that, however he's the same guy to say that the founding fathers of America were genocidal racists, which did rather confuse me, people in that group don't seem to really know their history, because the founding fathers were libertarians who had to fight off the British to make America, and Winston Churchill was a leader that needed to be put in power in order to win WW2, he was the leader that would declare war on Germany, and the previous PM, Neville Chamberlain didn't because of fear of having a repeat of WW1 along with a lot of other people who opposed the idea of another war.
Yep. I saw that straight off too
Damn the one Britt does sound like Ricky Gervais.
The UK’s recent military history is well know and the participants well known, it’s a small club. Someone will know somebody so any bullshit will be detected very quickly. And then there is the talk. Only people who have been in the services talk like people who have served.
Hello Marine. Former crew of USS Ohio (SSBN 726) here (Nav tech) from '91-93'. We do in fact perform man overboard drills from time to time. I ran one myself.. Submarines have to do surface transit operations for various reasons (in and out of port for instance) where man overboard can easily happen, so we did drill. I'm pretty sure they still do.
Hey, A Ganger here. When's the last time you were in Groton?
@@waltglass7055 1990.
@@nicklockard got damn. Thats the year I was born. Thank you for tou service sir. I graduate BESS in 2017 and went to my training for A gang and got orders to Groton, was doing my physical and found out I had heart palpation. They disqualified on the spot. I'm still upset about it. Never even got to do any ride alongs.
@@waltglass7055 Thanks. I was enlisted, but did an officer conversion program, which is when I got to run a man overboard drill. I don't think you missed out. It was just a lot if overwork for low pay. I maxed out at $12,300 per year as an E5. I should have just gone straight to university and not wasted 6 years of my life.
as a GA who did 30 years in the US Army, I'm impressed what an AP3 can acheive!
The other medals are the Buck Roger's Lil Buckaroo Service Cross, Cap'n Crunch medal of Valor w/secret decoder upgrade and the NAMBLA kiddie cluster.
I pretended to be a seal once. I played horns with my nose and clapped for myself afterward.
😄
Sounds like a story of a sad clown
It doesn't count until you can balance a beach ball on your nose!
What?! You got the horn & ended-up with the clap? See a Doctor...
@@TheCatBilbo - I see what you did there 😉
Someone should reverse troll these people who go around hunting for 'stolen valor' by pretending to be the ultimate valor thief.
Lol, the last guy is a good story teller. I’ll give him that.
It would be funny to get all these guys together in a room and have them tell the're stories to each other🤣🤣
call it the valor shmalor show🤣
Now that’s a good one. I would do a pay preview for that one.
@@JamesonsTravels 🤣🤣 i know right
( finger on my chin ) hmmm...that..gives me an idea
Most people in the U.S. Navy would refer to their job as a rate, not an MOS
yeah, 2nd rate! boom! roasted Navy! lol
We're unique like that
Similar to the Air Force having AFSC (Air Force Specialty Code) rather than MOS
I was an MM for 4 years.
Thank you for serving.
I was in the Army, but I see I was correct, job in the Navy is called rate.
@10:24 "who is this guy"? JOHN RAMBO 🤣🤣
I was a 461X0 in the U.S.A F. and all I did was haul munitions, but I admit it and don't need to pose as a higher rank or a special forces. What I did was needed and I am proud I did it.