"BATMAN BEYOND" Timeline! How Far-Flung is the Neo-Gotham Future?
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well you know what they say, 41 is the new 13
Seems legit....
Silver comet we watch Batman Beyond The Return of Joker in a flashback at 2:24 after Quinn falls into the Ravine Watch Batgirl's Girls reaction indicating she saw Harley Quinn when she hit the ground Harley Quinn died on that night so Harley Quinn and Batman movie is a non Canon material or she's a Harley Quinn impersonator those are more likely scenarios take a look good luck
Lenny Mosca if batgirl saw her hit the ground, then how could they have never found her body?
Spoilers ahead for the ending of return of the joker.
At the end of return of the joker we're shown that Harley Quinn survived the fall that night, grew old, had a family and is now the grandmother of the Dee dee twins.
Joey Dymarcik I didn't watch the movie until yesterday. I'm actually glad he included that warning.
2039 makes sense as a nod to the original Batman's debut of 1939.
It even says it in the Wikipedia lol
In Batman: Arkham Knight, the game describes the Batman Beyond suit as “2039 Style” so Rocksteady seems to think so.
@T1122 If BTAS was in 1939, it would look like the Batman: Strange Days short.
In 2039 is 95 years
So does the film 2067...pays respects to Batman Beyond Comic Book Rebirth Run... so if you if you watch the Cinematic Films.... with Cinematic Actors... you wont be confused on whats to come now would you??? .... 🤔🤔🤔🤔 unless you follow false DCEU Batfleck Timelines..... that dont exist in the DC CINEMATIC UNIVERSE. 🎯 Literally... 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
As Superman said, “Bruce will outlive us all, he’s too stubborn to die”
I want to see a version of the grant gustin grave meme but the grave is superman's grave and bruce is grant
So, he's prolly becoming his own HARDAC/D.A.V.E. after his physical death then?
I know it doesn't fit... extremely comfortably with the timeline, but I always liked the idea of it being 2039. exactly 100 years from batman's comic debut. perfect.
Oh it certainly fits! That's the conclusion we come to in this video.
Dude I highly recommend the one-off (but excellent) Elseworlds story 'Batman: Year 100'. It's one of my favourite Batman stories, and at the time it was written essentially tried to treat every Batman story as part of one timeline to varying success (but that's not too narratively important so it doesn't matter too much, two hard dates, however, are Batman's first 1939 appearance and the 1986 TDKR). Basically that idea made into a story
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wouldn't it make sense for Bruce to train Terry for a few months after he agrees to let him become Batman? Bruce isn't just gonna hand him the suit and bat mobile and just wish him luck, he'd know to train Terry a bit.
Godzilla00X eeeeeeeh, maybe maybe not. With that level of sense letting children do any of this would be right out lol.
Yeah, but Dick said he trained for years before Batman let him be Robin, my money is on at least a few months training. And since new Batman had already been seen around town, he couldn't go off the grid again for a few years to be trained so Terry got the abridged version.
Also the Batmobile appears in the second episode (inque) and it would take time to get that made plus modifications to the bat suit (invisibility).
I always think of rebirth as a movie. I bought it on VHS the day it came out. It took over a year for us to get the other episodes here in England. I wore that tape out.
Bruce knew the secret at the end of the series (you guys know which one “daddy” ) so basically Bruce could’ve gone either way
Trained it a few months and also could have said naaa “son” has it covered it will come naturally 😉
@@alfonsopayan09 I'm pretty sure it's heavily implied Bruce didn't know until Terry finds out, so no.
So Bruce Wayne quits being Batman in 2019... Which is...
3 months from now.
I come from the year 2021 and now we have a batman
@@ProjektTaku What were you referring to in this comment?
Whenever "now" is.
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The solution to this timeline is that Justice League Unlimited never should have ended.
Ikr?
which is the reason for their comic leading towards that future
So what you're saying is, we should have gotten UNLIMITED episodes of it?
Isaiah Rucker no it doesn’t wtf
No that would make the problem worse by pushing Return of the Joker further and further forward
I love the Mr Freeze reference at the beginning!
The real timeline is...
We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
(Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
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Actually that’s wrong, his name isn’t Peter Cullen. His name is Optimus Prime.
The Robert Pattinson joke is so much funnier now that he's Batman. In a movie that had a trailer that apparently looked like Batman Beyond, but isn't.
The fuck are you talking about you jackass
I was thinking the same thing haha, i was looking for this comment
@@rjflores3800 silence
I'd go with BB beginning in 2039 and Epilogue in 2054. And I always placed ROTJ at the end of the series. Never really thought about it being in between episodes. Look at Zeta Project still being relevant almost 2 decades later. If only a 3rd season was possible
I do tend to watch RotJ after the entirety of the series if I'm doing a watch-through, since "Unmasked" is kind of a let-down in terms of "finales." Though, at the time, the creative team didn't focus on making every season finale a big deal, which is why we got the BB ending we did. At least they made up for it with "Epilogue" and Terry's other crossover appearances. --J
I'd say Fall of 2039 when BB started and at least the end of Spring 2041 when it ended. I'd place RotJ being in Spring 2041 as well. As for Epilogue I'd say 2054. As for Bruces' age in Epilogue he's about 90-91 years old. As for Tim Drake, he's about in his mid 50s (around 54) in RotJ.
I tend to end BB in terms of "Countdown", what with it being the last production order ep.
Still, you're right, BB; RotJ (haha, sly Star Wars reference there, you smart alecks in the DCAU creative team) is better off viewed after the show is finished up, with JLU's Season 2 "Epilogue" being skipped for a while until one finishes up with Season 3 (not unlike how Babylon 5 fans skip the all too debatable Season 5 and just finish up Season 4 with "Sleeping in Light"; also, starting and ending the DCAU with B: TAS' "On Leather Wings" and "Epilogue" is beautifully fitting).
Epliogue has 65 years time gap making it go from 1989 to 2054 meaning the Justice League show is set in the 80s , Terry is roughly 16 in 2039 meaning in 2054 he's around 31 since the return of the Joker is set in 2042 that means Tim Drake was kidnapped by the Joker in fall of 2002 or 2003 and my guess is that Batman is around 100 in Epliogue making him born in February 19th,1954 (adding his comic book birthday)
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The moment my whole life has been leading up to since “Rebirth Part 1” graced my screen as a lad.
*clicks play*
This Batman timeline is Beyond my comprehension.
If you dont read comics and watch Cinematic Films it would be... those fall in that category just lay shirts around stores... Theyre not Cinema.
Come on, any discrepancies are obviously Superboy punches. It's always Superboy punches. (Except when it's Hypertime, Time Trapper pocket universes, Bizarro worlds, alternate timelines, hoaxes, imaginary stories, Mr. Mxyzptlk, or _real world_ Mandela Effects altering our own memories.)
edit: And now we get to add dying Dark Universe crapsack worlds.
Superboy prime is my least favourite dc character. Everyone else is fine I hate that character
+Daragh O'kane That's kind of the point. DC is fond of giving Take Thats to the fanboys. AzBat, for example, was their Take That to the fanboys who kept calling for a darker, edgier Batman: a crazed, homicidal maniac in a spiky, gaudy power suit covered in ridiculous numbers of pouches. Superboy Prime is a caricature of an angry, socially dysfunctional fanboy with unrealistic power fantasies whose adoration and worship turns to out-of-control rage for little or no reason.
@@NoJusticeNoPeace now if DCEU fanboys would understand that....
Now to add the glowing watchmaker from another multiverse literally tinkering with continuity
I actually did pause when you allowed me to wait, watched Return of the Joker and came back.
In season one, episode 15, known as “Earth Mover”, Bruce asks Terry, “Do you read the news? It was only ten years ago.” To which Terry replies, “I was seven!” Making Terrence “Terry” McGinnis 17 as of mid to late 2039.
Yup! Look for our “Vanishing Point” episode on Terry’s age!
@@dcauwatchtower Will do, thanks for the reply.
I've always agreed on the 2039 start date, as it was mentioned in the promo that aired a lot and it does make sense to be a nod to the Centennial of the first comic book in 1939. Also, there was an episode awhile into the series when some people, I think Max was one, walked out of a theater with Casablanca on the marquis. That movie was released in 1942, so that makes me suspect that this was a Centennial theater release of it in 2042 or perhaps in late 2041 when the events in the movie took place. BTW, at the end it is mentioned that the date is December 6. Given the time zone differences, the Japanese attack fleet would have been on the way to Pearl Harbor at the moment Casablanca ended.
I’m glad I don’t think of the timeline in as much detail as you guys do, coz I’d lose my mind!
Personally I just throw each show into a bucket and each one takes place either “Today” or “the Future”
Whether you say “forty years later” or “fifty years” depends on whether you’re counting “present-day Batman” as that seen in B:TAS (the ‘90s) or in JLU (the 00s). That range is nearly ten years apart.
I always thought it was always “40-50” years from whatever the current time is. Because when creating a time skip you have years to work with, and yes it could’ve been clear on what suit or what goes where with the directive team. But they created this stuff in the 90’s-00’s the timeline has decades to work with, it was bound to trip over itself in a few places with so many people recounting events from different perspectives, mental states, and passage of time. You gotta think people like Bruce has had done bout everything a human can do, so I’m sure his own body and recounting of time is fuzzy to him
Well actually Dana and Terry could have been dating prior to the series so you can shave a few years off, you also have to account for Bruce having a boost from the Lazarus Pit.
At the end of Out Of The Past, Bruce says that eventually he'll be back to his normal self.
Did they ever explain why the Justice League of the future is so small? Compared to the end of Justice League Unlimited. I really wish they could touch on what happened to everybody or where or where everyone is at least in the Batman Beyond Universe. like is Zatanna still alive? Giganta? killer frost? Sinestro? Fire and Ice? Aqualad? Miss Martian? etcetera.
We never saw Miss Martian in the DCAU, but it’s fair to be interested in the rest. It was never touched on in the main timeline (in the Once and Future Thing, Chronos had killed most of the League by the 2050s, but that timeline was reset). Perhaps it had something to do with the Near Apocalypse of ‘09, or otherwise some other large world-shattering event we never saw take place, between JLU and Batman Beyond.
In their defense, we only saw the mainline leads of the JLU in BB, while the rest are admittedly offscreen and busy on international and intergalactic affairs outside of Neo-Gotham.
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@@dcauwatchtower we saw Miss Martian in JL vs F5 Movie
Phenomenal editing matching the clips! Loved it!
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I remember that in 1999, when Batman beyond was released, and more information was getting updated online about characters origins in bed and beyond, it was sad that Terry McGinnis was 17 when Bruce Wayne was 85. Justice league Unlimited however, they got deaged to 16 and 75 respectively. To me, Terry will always start off at 17, and the fact that he started training with Bruce at 16 just means that he turned 17 that year.
We did whole videos on Terry’s age and Bruce’s age, check those out too!
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My friend, you are the true mvp of this fanbase
I’ve always seen the DCAU as a complete fantasy world. Most of the things that happened in our world never occurred so with that being said, dates were never really a big deal or something that really mattered in that world. So instead of subtracting a date from a date just look at it as time passed, dates are irrelevant. My favorite thing about the DCAU is the way they have a completely different world and technology that’s advanced but also behind us in some areas, that’s why it’s possible to have our heroes in tights all the time. I always saw DC’s world like that, in a complete fantasy world disassociated from ours, whereas Marvel’s world is Superheroes in our modern world.
50 years makes perfect sense because everything fits in the timeline that way. I assumed they retconned all the inconsistencies.
That's because you're using "Realtime" instead of using the independent timeline of the DCAU.
I think in placing the starting point it is important to look at Terry's development between Rebirth and Golem. Yes that stretch of time is a bit long but you can tell he has become more experienced by Golem suggesting time and training are prevalent factors. Also the 2039 date is homage to the release of Detective Comics #27, which is important for something...can't remember what though...
It’s sad to see dc doesn’t really make any more of Batman beyond, I wish they still released future justice league content
I think the way it goes is that Batman Beyond takes place 40 to 45 years in the future and then the Epilogue episode is about 10 to 15 years later
I always wondered when Bruce Timm, Paul Dini and the others got the idea of killing off the joker. Maybe even before the release of the episode rebirth (first episode of Batman beyond), the group of the jokerz always gave me the idea that it was a tribute to a deceased villain as it was when we saw what happened in the events of return of the joker movie. Besides if the joker was alive his ego would never let that group expand like it did, he only saw them as mere imitators and would cut their wings before they even got the chance to expand themselves as a global group. So all this tells me that they already got the idea of killing the joker much before the release of the movie Batman beyond return of the joker.
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Maybe Dana meant 15 years in total, not 15 years consecutively. It's possible they took a break or just broke up for one or both of them to go to college then afterwards got back together. Flimsy sure, but possible.
Charles Champ In the batman beyond comics he did break up with Dana for a bit and dated Ten for awhile. So maybe that is why she said 15 she might've only counted the times they dated and didn't count the time they've known each other.
The only thing I don't like about batman beyond, is what happens to Bruce. During his jlu days he was bitter but still had people to be around. What happened in between , it would've been nice if him and Diana got together . And then with epilogue Bruce seemed even worse off. He's not the nicest guy to hang with but still deserved better than to be all alone after all the years he's given .
+Pdrew I’d like to think that Diana and Superman at least visited him at his death bed and they had a reconciliation.
I was actually a fan of Bruce Wayne being alone. It made sense this would happen because of the type of character/person he represented... His story taught people if you are married to your work like Bruce Wayne was, you will grow old and be alone. However some stories of "what happened in between" would be interesting if the writers fleshed this out more....🤔
Angela Stein well something must has happened after joker’s death took place plus his life wasn’t the same after everyone left.
@@josephvazquez7938 Well I think it is safe to say that Batman would have reacted similarly when he lost Robin. (He failed). Now knowing that he can't keep anyone safe, he pushed everyone he loved away.☹️ Still watching this play out would be interesting. Very depressing, but interesting.🤔
@@aaliyahrammstein6674 The comics actually answered these questions a bit. Long story short: Bruce and Barbara had a relationship (Which is why you see a picture of her when Bruce looks at the pictures of his past girlfriends in one episode). However, the relationship ended on rather bad terms, which led to Dick and Barba coming back together again, but the problems didn't end there. Dick had no clue about that certain relationship between his foster father and his long time love, and, to make matters worse, Barbara was pregnant. From Bruce. Who didn't accept the child and just flatout told Dick "Congratulations on becoming a father", before getting his rear handed to him by his son who at this point knew everything about what had happened before.
Dick afterwards did cut every connection between him and every other member of the Bat-Family after Barbara had lost the child due to an injury from crime fightining (Which is also the reason as to why she stopped beeing Batgirl). That's why Barba tells Terry in season one that, if he wants to see someone who's really bitter, he should go and meet Nightwing.
Also on that note: Nightwing hung up the hero boots, as far as I remember, because of heavy injurys he got during a mission which also led to him loosing one eye.
I believe Barbara when she says the flashback is "almost 40 years ago", which means 40+ years have passed since JLU. And I see Epilogue as 15 years after somewhere in Beyond, with Bruce in his early 90s.
She doesn't say that, old Tim does. But yeah, "almost 40" would be likely 35-39 years prior.
I honestly didn't know that these were questions I needed answers to before I subscribed to this channel. I used to think I was weird for being such a huge fan of the DCAU ( I probably Still am) but it's cool that you are still an even bigger one . Cheers
It is 2039!!!! I can't believe you got the year completely right!!!!!
I don't care what Bruce Timm said! Batman Beyond is taking place in 2039-2042. On the Batman Beyond Return of The Joker DVD bonus features, there's character bios on Bruce, Tim, Harley, and
Terry. Terry's birth year is stated on his bio as 2023(this current year oddly enough!) So that means Terry is 16 in 2039, with him graduating from Hamilton Hill Senior High,(but the cerimony not being shown) at 18 in 2041, and the show's last episodes taking place in 2042 when Terry is 19. So all of this makes totally sense.
As someone that likes legacy characters a lot, you get far less of them with a rolling timeline.
me to. I've always wanted to see conner kent as superman
I like what Bruce Timm said about never putting dates on these, but it is nice to have some kind of perspective for these. Additionally, wtf were they thinking when they said 65 years in the future and then had all this other stuff that didn’t support that
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I like the answer the creators gave on a special feautre of the dvd set. Batman Beyond is aways 50 years ahead of whatever current year you're in.
2:02 he predicted the future batman connection
Love the video, but I thought the nano-tech used on tim drake was a recent development and not when the joker first turned him. I thought someone had the nano-tech implanted into old Tim that turned his whole body into the Joker (note the change in body size and facial structure between the two).
Good thought, but it’s implied in the movie that Joker planted the microchip on Tim while experimenting on/torturing him during the flashback sequence time period. It wasn’t revealed to be Cadmus tech until “Epilogue.”
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I always thought Batman Beyond began 2039 (2039-2042 timeline as the seasons go by and Return of the Joker occurs in between), it makes the most sense, 40 years from 1999. Bruce Timm saying it's 50 years from now just contradicts everything else, especially if he's trying to say 50 years from "Now" meaning even 50 years from this current date. 2039 in real life is 17-18 years from now (2022) so that fucks up the entire Batman Beyond and DCAU timeline if Bruce Timm just wants it to be pretty much anywhere 50 years in the future.
As for the Justice League: Unlimited episode "Once and Future thing" I always thought that timeline happened because Chronos fucked around and messed that whole timeline up, considering if it is say 10 years from when Batman Beyond started, Static Shock is tbe only character to have aged who is in the Batman Beyond era (Bruce Wayne, Terry, The Jokerz all seem to have not aged, [& that Bonk is alive]) but that could also be due to the timeline falling apart and getting messed up, and that's it's not necessarily a just a future timeline, but an alternate timeline from what I have gathered. So it didn't actually happen within the Batman Beyond era or even universe, plus I think that alternate timeline got erased. So to me, that didn't actually happen within Batman Beyond, at least not the main timeline with the series and Return of the Joker film. (Except Epilogue is obviously within the same timeline/universe as Rebirth, ROTJ in the Batman Beyond, 2039 onwards)
So regardless, IT'S 40 YEARS, NOT 50 BRUCE TIMM, Jesus!
And by the way, funny thing is I find Bruce Wayne retired as Batman in 2019.....just before 2020 happened lol
Batman retired right before shit hit the fan with 2020 onwards...YOU FORSAKEN US BRUCE WAYNE! Hahaha lo
You’re totally on the money re: the alternate timeline! Not at all the same one. As for the 50 years from “now” (whenever “now” is) thing, Timm’s stance is usually also that BTAS through JLU just takes place in more or less present day (aka “now”), being a sliding timeline. Neither way to look at it is “wrong,” but we tend to try and make sense of all the dates if we can.
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Hey thanks man
Its ironic to make the Edward Cullen joke because he is now playing The Batman 😂
2:07 that aged funnily (?)
It does say 50 years in the future, but one thing is, and I see some comments about his age. well I would presume he is probably 32-35 at the beginning of batman TAS plus 10 years so 42-45 at the end. also when it first starts it says 20 years from now, and batman is still fighiting, probably age 65, then another 20 years would be 85, then you have 3 years of of the show, and epilogue is 15 years after making bruce 103 in epilogue
your forgetting as superman put it, Bruce will out live them all he's "too stubborn to die"
2:04 Funny how in a batman video, that guy is now officially the new batman
Great video so happy you did this your always one of my top sources on the bat.
"... more like a 'What If?' kind of situation..."
Don't you mean an Elseworlds kind of situation?
WELL, Brian, SOME people might not be FAMILIAR with the term, OKAY? ;)
i read that Bruce's final night takes place 20 years after Batman TAS and The New Batman Adventures,and 10 years after Justice League and Justice League Unlimited
Not quite. It’s in 2019, and JLU ends in 2004.
This is how I always see it:
Bruce retired as Batman in 2019 when he was 55.
When Bruce was 58, Terry was born in 2022.
In 2030, Amanda Waller sent The Phantasm to kill Terry’s parents but didn’t choose to.
Two years later, Terry’s younger brother Matthew is born. They’re 10 years apart.
By the time Terry is in his teenage years, maybe between 15-17, his parents are divorced and Terry lives with his dad. By that point, Terry’s a troubled kid, getting into fights and going in and out of juvenile.
The year is 2039, 20 years has passed since the last sighting of The Batman. Terry meets 75 year old Bruce, Warren dies, and Terry becomes the new Batman.
Two years later in 2041, Terry works for Bruce Wayne as his “assistant” full time and The Joker returns.
15 years later after Terry became the new Batman, he finds out that he’s a clone/son of Bruce and confronts Amanda Waller. Terry accepts his destiny, plans to propose Dana, and continues on as Batman. By this point, Bruce is 90 and Terry is 32.
This ruins the poster I once made. Back in 2012 i was in the 6th grade and we had to bring pictures of our favorite things. I brought a picture of Batman Beyond and glued it on the poster and wrote down that it would be batman from the year 2038 so........xD
That intro made me laugh too hard
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You guys nailed it... I really enjoyed it, specifically the opening humour.
If we take the 2039 date for "Rebirth" and the 2054 date for "Epilogue", 2054-50 = 2004...and you determined the ROTJ flashback could be as late as 2007.
So not necessarily "over fifty years". But "nearly fifty years" would work, as would "over forty years" - which is what Bruce says (47-years-ish under this model). I know there's other conflicting evidence you brought up, but this point about Bruce's statement specifically isn't inherently nonsensical.
So I think the 2039 date for BB's premiere works best overall.
Oo cool I meant to ask you that too. Also you guys think you can do why Tim drake and Dick Grayson ,and Batgirl and others were not in justice league full episodes,not cameos ,a but whole full episodes,like to know your guys theory on what were they doing,at the time and if supposedly they were in the final episode of JLU fighting Darksied army :)
We have no evidence as to what they were doing so your guess is as good as ours. However, we do follow up with the Bat-family in our webcomic series “Legacies of the DCAU.” You can find the first few issues here (currently working on the next two): www.legaciesdcau.com
Here's how it went down Bruce Wayne retired in 2019 after the incident with him using a gun as a weapon (which is how it started), 4 years later Terry McGuinnis would be born, in Septmber 2039 Terry's (father) would be murdered then Terry would take the role of Batman, in batman beyond Bruce is 75 years old, in epilogue Bruce is 90 years old,
I like the set up for matties head being a mr freeze head in this to connect to the mr freeze time line video
I just hate when they tell you the year that something takes place when it relates to Batman. It’s better if they don’t. I like how BTAS mixes a bunch of time periods with it’s own thing. It’s timeless. Tell me how long it’s been in between things but don’t tell me what year it is. The multiverse is endless with an endless amount of timelines so I just like to look at Beyond as one of the timelines. There’s the timeline with just BTAS S1-S3 and nothing else DCAU related, and then there’s the timeline with BTAS S-1-S4, Beyond, STAS, JL, JLU, the Zeta Project, Static Shock, and all of the DCAU movies as well. And then there’s other completely different timelines and universes like one where luckily Bruce and Barbara didn’t sleep together. I just look at it that way. There’s the BTAS S1-S3 only universe and then there’s the DCAU which also includes S4. Oh and I love all seasons of BTAS I’m just saying S1-S3 can be its own thing because there are no DCAU connections in those seasons unlike S4 and the character designs are the same in those seasons unlike S4.
If it’s 2039 I’m excited for 19 years from now!
2039 that's gonna be weird
My personal headcanon is that Terry becomes Batman in 2039 because that would mark 100 years since Batman was created.
Well it’s a good thing that’s accurate then!
There is someone that lived to be 115 and with future technology and magic batman can get that far
Wait what happens when we finally reach 2039 and there still a dcau and then will the take place in the past or present time but if there in present time ( present time = 2039) it’ll be the time terry maginas🤯
Is there a chronological media order to watch all the shows and movies in? Also, is there any wiggle room for the killing joke to take place within the DCAU?...
Killing Joke isn’t in the DCAU. Chronologically the series would go like so: Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Justice League/Static Shock, Justice League Unlimited (minus the episode “Epilogue”), Batman Beyond, The Zeta Project, “Epilogue.” We are also constantly working on a DCAU timeline that will lay out the full chronological order for every episode, tie-in comic, movie, video game, etc.
I *never* thought Beyond was a what-if series, I was just waiting for Justin League to wrap up the connection.
I interpret the "Over 40 years" thing being old man Bruce giving a general guess or statement
I've been wondering what the Near Apocalypse Of 09 was about, which was referenced by Terry McGinnis in Batman Beyond, I know it involved the final battle between Ra's Al Ghoul and Batman, resulting in Ra's Al Ghoul taking over Talia's body
Responded to your other comment about this over on the Teen Titans video 👍
@@dcauwatchtower , Oh okay cool, I didn't see my notification yet and thx
You should do a video on how old is Batman
It's on our list!
Well seems I was way off...for some reason I thought it was Damien Wayne who was BB. How long was Batman Beyond on air before it was switched over to toonumi? And what year did The Zentha project start?
You have established a timeline around a wealthy man who can do anything with his understanding of chemistry and a young man who may have inhareted his meternal grandfathers’ slowed aging. In other words Tery could be much older than Bruce and it wouldn’t show. What seems to be agreed on is 29 years go by between the start of the first and end of the second season placing it very close to 2069.
We all know one thing, Bruce will out live us all he's to stuburn to die
In "Disappearing Inque" Terry says he's been Batman for approximately 6 months
Yep!
@@dcauwatchtower I don't know if that helps or hurts "Just in time for Fall" vs Springfling
No, it hasn't been 40 years. It's been 50 years since whenever then was.
As we get near 2038... we realize the future is going to look absolutely nothing like how it's depicted in batman beyond haha
I took Terry's "but just in time for fall" to just be a quip given he literally falls over to evade those cops. Then again I am a big MCU fan so I am just used to quips in my superhero consumption. And not to take that literally.
Oh it’s absolutely that, but [“Why not both?” gif]
I just got done watching Batman Beyond The Return Of The Joker after having rented it from TH-cam last night, so I'm ready to watch the rest of this video essay.
Thanks for the heart❤️ WatchTower Database! 🙂
Good job on the timeline!
...You guys seem to had forgotten about green lantern animated series is in the same canon
Ah, but it’s not! Thanks for the compliment, though! We’ll be doing a video on GLTAS eventually!
How did I never notice the Best of Both Worlds, Part 2 music?
AND NOW, THE CONCLUSION
What about The Zeta Project or why Bruce Timm or Paul Dini didn't give Volcania,Mercy or other Dcau creation by Bruce Timm their own solo comic like Harley Quinn. Heck Paul Dini could have mad a Jungle Bell part of the Dcau or make Zeta Project Animated movie.
You should do a history of the joker gang from batman beyond and were they came from
Would consider it if we had any more info to go off of than “They based their gimmick on The Joker.”
I personally like to think Batman Beyond takes place in 2039 but only because that will be 100 years since Detective comics #27 was published... the first appearance of The Batman
But I just accept comic book time... it’s in my blood, I grew up with it, I know it’s confusing and Annoying to people who like details, but comics are just stories... and by that I mean they are legends, the Batman is a mythological character, and his adventures in the future whether he be old and passing the torch on, or battling superman in a mech suit, are all equally valid
Nice video Watchtower!
9:12 the 2050s seems right for the Terry reveal but when did Dark Heart tech become illegal? Luthoraks rise to power wouldn't necessarily make the tech illegal remember Doomsday is a bio-weapon cultivated in a lab within walking distance of Amanda Wallers office why would Brainiac's semifinal showdown matter timeline wise?
Is there an explanation for, in a Beyond episode, Bruce said "NONE of the Robins ever complained." Rather than NEITHER of the Robins ever complained. Its probably nothing but I like to think that maybe there was a third Robin sometime
We have no evidence for any Robins besides Dick and Tim, so we have to assume it was just his choice of words.
Tim maitaining the same appearance is a real mystery...
I'd say just because the tech was made illegal 40 years ago doesn't mean it was used by joker 40 years ago. Might have taken awhile for it to be made illegal it being so obscure
The could be, except the wording “Didn’t stop the Joker” leads us to believe it was made illegal before the Joker used it. Therefore, the “Return of the Joker” flashback occurs after “over 40 years ago.”
Hmm then I guess baring crazy medical condition for Drake, cures and anti-aging drugs in the beyond period I think you guys did a bang up job and this is now my head canon.
I guess all this would make Batman around 35 in 2004 lol. Him being born in 1968 or 1969. The whole idea of 50 years ago in 2039 sort of doesn't make too much sense, but if that was the case, Batman would be around 42 in 2004 which is the age Batman looks during JLU.
We've got a whole video on Batman's age, actually! th-cam.com/video/ir_J0afgu-o/w-d-xo.html
So what's the best way to watch the DCEU. More specifically should you watch Batman Beyond before or after Justice League/JLU?
There's a lot of debate among fans of the "correct" way to watch the DCAU. Personally, I prefer to always watch any connected series in release order, so that the stories flow the way human beings first witnessed them. Often times, plot twists or story elements are written into later-aired series that make a lot more sense or feel better (in my opinion) than if you try to watch the shows in chronological order. It's up to you. Using my method, you would watch "Batman Beyond" before "Justice League" because it aired before. If you must watch "Batman Beyond" after, at the very least you will need to skip the JLU episode "Epilogue" and come back to it after finishing "Batman Beyond" (and its accompanying movie, "Return of the Joker"). - James
Bro used a pic of Pattinson and now he’s The Bat lol
Hey Watchtower Database, what are your opinions on the "Ears too long" part of "Ears too long and I miss the cape. But not too shabby, not too shabby at all. Woof!"
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Bruce proably made Terry complete at least a few weeks, if not months, training in the cave before he was allowed out in the city as Batman.
He wasn’t even allowed out as Batman in the first place haha
@@dcauwatchtower fine, allowed out *again.*
Hard to think that by the time epilouge supposedly occurs (according to your research) I'll be 46.
Batman Beyond is "50 years into the future" of an Batman "in his early 30s," so Bruce is in his early 80s in Batman Beyond series, and in his late 90s in Epilogue. EZ PZ. If you want to place anything from the DCAU into actual dates, it will be physically impossible, since Bruce was in his early 30s when TAS first aired in 1992, and he was still in his early 30s when JLU ended more than 10 years later.
He’s actually in his 40s by JLU and it works just fine. :) Check our our “How Old is Batman?” video! The timeline is, in fact, not impossible.
Just did, was working my way to it. Left a message there as well
kinda funny how they almost always say "over X-years" so, in technical truth, it can be above any of the numbers they mention
That's why Marvel and DC avoid year dates in their stories as much as possible these days.
I just want to get clear make for timeline purposes I tend to use certain aspects of the earth 12 continuity for the DC Animated Universe because some of the information makes sense for filling in the gaps. this all know from the cartoon Powers made several attempts to take over Wayne Enterprises, in spite of Wayne's refusal to give in. Through a decades-long effort (now let's be honest what most likely happened is the tech that was used in the Batman Beyond suit was probably very expensive which, and in order to cover the cost of making such a suit bruce started liquid wayne enterprise stock, and selling off assets effectively weekend, the company to a point where it would be possible for a hostile takeover.), Powers eventually succeeded in a hostile takeover, resulting in the merging of Wayne-Powers.
I think it's interesting that effectively because Joker was lobotomized on the Justice Lords Earth that meant Tim got to go on to become lord Red Robin in their universe ,you have to wonder do you think it was lord Batman who suggested to Lord Superman his heat vision to lobotomize on his Rogues gallery, because let's be honest Batman would never be able to bring himself to kill.
Batman Beyond being 50 years ahead of the DC timeline only applies to the main DC Universe, because Bruce is always supposed to be in his early thirties which means if you tack on 50 years that's means he's in his 80s.
The idea that Batman can't "bring himself to kill" is a misconception. As Batman himself explains to Jason Todd/Red Mask, he deliberately restrains himself from killing specifically _because_ he wants to kill so badly, and it would be so easy for him to do so. Dark Nights Metal hammers that home, showing us what Batman will become if he ever lets go of that rigidly-held discipline. The no-killing rule isn't for his benefit, it's for _ours._ He knows just how monstrous he could become if he let go.