2020 DT Edition Mini JCW - Should I cancel my GP3 and buy this ?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- The DT Edition Mini JCW is a Handling, Styling and Noise package you can add to any new Mini JCW ordered through Bimmerdeals. Could this collaboration between Bimmerdeals, Deutsch Tech and Luxewerks give the Mini JCW the big thing the GP3 doesn't...a manual gearbox ?
I got to put this car through its paces at Bruntingthorpe Proving Ground and was hugely impressed by how it handled and it's ride comfort.
The DT Edition Package will be priced at £2250 (£3000 RRP including fitting and labour), and can be attached to any brand new MINI JCW ordered through Bimmerdeals (Instagram @bimmerdeals) and will consist of the following parts...
Handling
- 30mm Eibach Lowering Springs (Front and Back)
- 15mm TPI Spacers (Front and Back)
- 4 Wheel KDS Laser Wheel Alignment and Tracking
- Ultra Racing Front Strut Brace
Sound
- Custom DeutschTech Rear Exhaust (OPF Back)
Styling
- AC Schnitzer Front Splitter
- DT Edition Gel Boot Badge
- Bonnet Scoop Black Out Decal Individually Numbered (DT Edition 001 onwards)
- LuxeWerx Beltline Black Out Decal Pack
- LuxeWerx Valve Caps
- LuxeWerx Gloss Black V2 Front Bumper Decal and Gloss Black Side Scuttle Decal
- LuxeWerx Air Fresheners and Classic Red Jet Tag
Transportation
- Covered Transportation between Berry MINI Heathrow and DeutschTech by Veloce Vehicle Transportation (VVT)
Paint Protection
- @Stjarnagloss will also be supplying an Essential Detailing Kit free of charge with each order (RRP £35)
The Headline Offer for this vehicle is £2250 Deposit - £299 Per Month (48 Month PCP covering 8000 Miles Per Annum) - This price is based on the Base Specification Car (as DT Edition 001 looks from an exterior point of view).
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Hi Ped. Loving your content. Not being an owner of a mini, I've heard a lot of people say the pedals are offset in the mini. You obviously seem to cope ok?
martin ambrose The pedals in my old Renaultsport Clio 182 Trophy were offset, at first it bugged the heck out of me but, I got used to it pretty quickly and stopped noticing it at all shortly after that... Unless you're very tall and have really long legs (As my 6.4ft brother discovered..) and then, on long runs you'll get leg cramps and hip ache on the outer side leg to the offset. But, other than that, that Clio was without question THE best handling hot hatch ever made,.. and still is!
If handling is the most important factor of a car to you and you can find a tidy example,.. then I seriously recommend picking one up, you won't be disappointed... it's a real sleeper car. On the three occasions I took it to the Nurberg, it ate £100K machinery around two thirds of the circuit for breakfast, day after day in stock form (minus quick removables like rear parcel shelf, passenger head supports & floor mats.).
I owned the Cup 182 & the later model Cup 200 versions too which, though being a bit spartan on the interiors (less so on the 200) were still both awesome drives punching WELL above their weight on the ring,.. but the Trophy, with its reservoir dampers, LSD and exceptional set of brakes.. was just pure magic!
@@prof.d.red-maa thanks very much for your detailed reply much appreciated.
martin ambrose No problem mate! Sorry about the length of my post,.. I'm a proper petrol head, minutes can turn into hours and not even be noticed, I'd happily nag away for hours about cars if I get the chance or rather, if I didn't have a wife to go,.. "Do you realise just how long you've blabbing on about cars?!.. Come on, you're going to be late for..!", tends to be heard by my ears at some point during the week (LOL), especially if I've managed to find a bit of spare time after work for myself and decide to chat with some fellow petrol head mates,.. then I 'know' I'm going to hear it!
You have a great day my friend! Peace! ✌😎
I can't wait to not be able to buy or afford this car.
Only just found your site and I am well and truly hooked.
What I like is that you don’t have by a petrol head to appreciate what you are doing and the hours you must spend on just one of you many videos
I have a 54 plate focus diesel and can't afford any of the cars you review but I still watch them and really enjoy your presenting style, keep it up.
Cheers Paul. Will do 👍
I’m 10 seconds in, and I can already say no! Keep the GP.
*This was a good day and what a great car! Loved driving it around there* 🙌
Liked your video very much as well.
keith morris thank you!
I'm going to watch your video now on this as I found your channel through Petrol Ped and enjoy watching your content. I suspect the outer car footage was your doing. Very very well filmed if I'm right.
Just getting round to answering comments. Only got 100 to do 😂
Just go for it Peter. Life’s too short! Great driving by the way.
Thanks George 👍
Eibach springs work a treat. A very nice improvement to a car without going crazy. Hope it wasn't windy that day as when I went many years ago the wind ruined the front end and windscreen of my car with road rash from the silt coming up off the runway, as did many many others, some considered of actually had front end re sprays done! . Glad to see the circuit hasn't changed though.
Certainly not a place to follow another car closely 😬
DT edition looks a great option and of course can therefore be 6MT.
I’ve cancelled my GP3 allocation, looking at the GR Yaris now, think that’s amazing.
Great choice no future reliablity or poor resale
I can’t get the GR Yaris in California 😭 it looks so cool
Interesting. I have a JCW hatch (standard 2019) which I drove in the Adelaide Rally (all tarmac) - I kept catching up with cars including new BMW M Competition (M5 & M4 etc) whenever the roads were twisty! The ‘standard’ JCW is awesome - the BMW drivers were astounded - to improve on that is quite a feat!
They surprise many more expensive car on a track day 👍
The stance of the DT Edition is very good. It's how the JCW should have been from the factory.
I agree 👍
Looks awesome but the gp3 is going to be very unique stick to that for sure!! Great video sir Pete.
Don't worry, the GP is still happening 👍
Love it!
DT Edition in Green. What you'd get for the Roadster part ex would pay deposit and roughly a year of PCP payments. If it will make you happy Pete, go for it. The S4 too good to swap for the longterm Mini you've got though.
Wow. It’s got some springs, an exhaust and a strut tower brace. So much wow. Totally cancel the order on your GP...
Love it. This over a GP? Yes. The look is so much more tasteful to me. I don't know you, but I see this matching you more than a GP.
Thanks Mark 👍
This DT Edition really makes me want another MINI.
Imagine what would happen if you drove it 😜😂
Jonesing for this DT... it is everything I’d ever want.
The Choice Is Yours. I do like the new DT Edition
you guys over there should be happy to get the DT
Another good video thanks for that. me to love minis think i'll keep my f56 cooper S for ever.
Great cars 👍
For me if I was looking to shave a few seconds off a track time i'd go DT. if its more road use keep it JCW, hope you can get your hands on a Yaris GR-4 i'd love one
Keep the GP! More power, better breaks and way better body. Most of the upgrades on this DT Edition can be added to the GP.
Now, this DT edition is a better option for a daily driver, manual transmission, probably better sound, and 4 seats... interesting case!
Follow you heart lol easier said than done though I expect. Excellent video and I have to say that editing in the B roll of the outside shots of the mini really do polish your videos to perfection. It just adds that little extra that I think is missing. I expect Stef from ABTV had something to do with that support. And yes before you say it's difficult as majority of the time you've got your camera's and your on your own. Just wanted to say it was a really good watch. Very well edited together.
Cheers Trevor. Actually the tracking shots were done by a friend of ours called Patrick. He was hanging out of the back of a car with a very expensive camera on a very expensive gimbal 😂
Petrol Ped oh sorry I got it wrong. Very very good looking tracking shots they were to.
I'm due to collect a new Cooper S 210 Works Ed. I ordered from the dealers, hopefully in a week or two. Almost everything in that DT kit is already sat in my garage ready to go on it.
If you got your name down for a GP then, I'd stay with that,.. if just for investment purposes because, let's face it.. you know the performance is going to be there (It's a GP after all!), even though it should have a manual box option,.. it's performance shouldn't disappoint(!?) And the exclusivity of owning the new GP will practically pay for itself in resale value. You could probably run the GP for a full year and still get your money back if you decide to switch out rides.
I drove the JCW for a few weeks before placing my order last September and borrowed my kid bros 2.0ltr Cooper S for a couple of days for comparison and to be honest... I just couldn't justify the extra cost of the JCW over the S (Let alone a DT edition), the performance of the JCW wasn't anything the Cooper S couldn't match (Even exceed..), with just a few well chosen upgrades added at a fraction of the price difference between the two models.
I seriously punished both cars and found that the S really wasn't that far behind the full blooded JCW to warrant such extra expenditure, on B Road Blasts there was really nothing discernable between the two, the JCW looked good on paper but, in the real-world the only advantage I found the JCW to have over the S was on Oulton Park, where it's brakes were clearly better with overheating issues, they remained more consistent through the fade period and had a slightly better bite allowing the JCW to stay off the pedal a little longer than the S before going into fast-to-slow corners where heavy braking was necessary.
But, over the first 5 laps there was nothing to separate the two, only when things got hot,.. would the JCW start to reveal what it is that you were paying several grand extra for(!)
But, my Mini S won't be living on a track and with the right upgrades will stand toe to toe with the JCW on any of Britains Roads.. Especially the B ones and I've saved A Lot of money in the process.
Performance wise,.. other than the JCWs brakes and it having a "little" bit more poke you're really just paying for the JCW badge unless you can take it on a track each weekend to exploit the slightly improved features that make the JCW a much more expensive venture than the already impressive S, something which most owners won't.. I wouldn't even go for the JCW DT edition, just the Cooper S with the right upgrades will happily hold its own against either.
But, you are looking at the new Mini GP too, which is a completely different 'kettle of fish', and certainly at the price their asking,.. it had better be! If nothing else, you're paying for exclusivity which, with BMWs reputation for quality German engineering and building on the already successful, well established F56 platform, should come with excellent resale values.
You could run the GP for a year and then swap out without incurring any financial loss or keep it as a long term investment, as all the Mini GPs have pretty much received 'Collectors Car' status are well sought after and retain potentially high resale values which, will only increase as demand grows if well looked after. Also, the new GP looks the 'Bees Knees!',.. It reminds me of my old MkIII Clio V6,.. It may have been called a Clio but, the rest of the range was nothing like it(!).... I know because, I used to be a huge Renault-Sports fan, owning the 172, 182 & 200 Cup/Trophy model variants, along with the RS Megan 250 Cup & 275 Trophy models (All awesome Hot Hatches!), but the Clio V6 stood out in its own way and though not necessarily better performing than the other Clios (Especially the 182 Trophy.), it certainly wasn't lacking and they were nothing like it, come to think about it.. nothing else on the road was either(!)
I think the new GP is using the same kind of recipe, making it an instant classic to own and separating it from the other models carrying the Cooper badge! If you've been lucky enough to get your name down on the limited run GP, I'd leave it there and at least enjoy owning it for a year.
On a final note about the F56 Mini platform,.. you have felt the benefit that just the front upper strut-brace offers, but if you fit the full kit,.. Front Upper & Lower, Mid X2 & Rear Upper and Lower braces (As my brother has & I am going to).. it reduces a serious amount of body/chassis flex and improves the handling very notably indeed!
Which was a bit of a surprise as, we thought the F56 platform was already a very rigid chassis having each wheel pushed out to the corner and near perfect 50/50 distribution, but that big BMW engine must really pull on the frame under load, but the kit certainly sorts it out(!) The kit does add a bit of unwanted extra weight and costs about a grand but, the performance gains of maintaining higher cornering speeds, better balance under braking and having a more confident, consistent and balanced handling suspension beneath you, is well worth the cost. Especially for the track days(!)
I've just come across your channel, I've subscribed and look forward to viewing the rest of your content as time allows.
I'm a 'serious' petrol head (Obviously!... Sorry for writing this novel here!) and have been for over forty years since I were six years old when my ol' man first took me go-kart racing with my brothers,... I'm investing in a Mini S and were just viewing Mini related content (There's loads of it!) and though there's lots of reviewers putting videos out there, I watched your vid and found your review to be incredibly well done! Rather than just blab on about how awesome you think it is and how much fun you're having (Which 'most' reviewers on YT tend to do!),.. you actually did a proper good job, you expressed what's expected on paper, you got to the nitty-gritty of what makes this car a Mini, you addressed the engineering, function and mechanics of both the car & specific components,.. and most importantly, you described the characteristics and handling/performance feedback the vehicles were giving you... Instead of just stating a few obvious details and shouting "It's Awesome!", as appears to be the norm with so many TH-cam reviewers I've entertained my time to.
You're a 'True' petrol head and a reliable, concise reviewer, 👍😎 I look forward to viewing more of your content and maybe throwing a few posts/questions your way in the future and possibly a friendly criticism here or there, so long as you are open to constructive criticism, that is!?
Great Work mate(!).. Keep it up!
Thanks for the Sub and great to have you along for the ride. Interesting comment. Thanks for taking the time to post it 🙏
Seems alot of money to me for what are quite simple bolt on mods....for people that like a nice little numbered plaque.
I would have thought a stiffer rear antii roll bar would have been on the list....would change the feel no end for simple money.
Crazy profit I guess for the company doing this.
Good video by the way buddy... excellent delivery, just subscribed
Wow, thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel 👍
Fabulous fabulous looking car....I’d be going for the 007 number ! ......I’d be very very tempted to get this instead of the GP3....especially if it meant not having to sell Ruby.....look ! the GP 3 is great, and will be a rarity...and have more grunt, but unless you plan to rally or race..and absolutely have to have more horses.... this would be my choice Pete......on our roads winding country roads this would be great fun Its handling over horses ! And a manual a manual ! a lot to think about mate !
I think there will be a queue for 007 😂
GP3 or a set of springs 🤔
My thoughts exactly...
GP3 will keep value long term
The springs and strut brace total about £400 , and that being the main mods on this car would not sway me to spend 2 to 3 grand above standard jcw retail price .
@@chefinavan1 couldn't say it better.
I wouldn't say it was even 400 pounds
Don't forget the strut brace.... no halfords crap here! 🤣🤣🤣
So basically a set of Eibach springs, spacers, strut rod & remove the mid box? Keep the GP3… or send it my way 👍🏻
I think it makes more sense to get a GP since you have Ruby when you need an Manual Trans fix
I like your thinking 👍
Had to watch this again 😍🤤🤑
Great to hear 👍
Pete - YES!
The GP mini's in all gen's will always be the most sort after the DT is a JCW with some bolt on bits that anyone can add to any mini.
Dunno I quote like the Mulgari Icon 2 version, very rare, styling and performance tweaks and a Mini warranty. Sounds great to me
Hi Pete.
Another good video and hopefully you were able to warm up soon afterwards. No, don't cancel the GP3. It is way more "out there " than this DT Edition and as a limited run car will always be more interesting. If it so happens that the GP3 does not turn out as you hoped then you can sell it and get one of these. There are so few really interesting cars out there nowadays without massive budgets. I must admit I struggle with the Mini but that is just my personal preference. I have been considering an Alpine A110 but they are quite expensive by the time you add an option or two. However I now have the Yaris GR-4 at the top of my list.
I looks amazing. Manual box, 4 wheel drive and 257bhp in a lightweight car. Sounds like heaven to a petrol head like me !!!!!
Take care and as you say, drive safe.
The little Yaris looks like a right hoot 👍👏
Very nice !! Of course you could add a lot of the options yourself to a lightly used JCW......Along with a Remap at 3years old, and an LSD when the clutch needed doing....!! Love the GP3, apart from the gearbox, but as I recall from the pre-launch MiniTrack Drive the GP3 sounded quite tame exhaust wise ?? Choices Choices !!!!
Very temping 👍
Depends. If your current order is in Production then take collection rather than leave the dealer with a car they won’t want....
Amazing car the 2020 DT, I have the same brace strut on my JCW, but in red. We don't have a AC Schnitzer trader here in Switzerland. Haha and Ped, buy both cars!
I'd love to 😜
Morning pal. Looks tasty in White. I have a soft spot for the JCW at all times. They sound awesome. Especially with a tidy exhaust set up. Loosing the pops and bangs has removed some of the theatre though, bloody emission rules!
Tree huggers 😂
Petrol Ped, ya got that right.
Take a look at ac schnitzer mods, IMO better than the DT. It’s a shame hartge went in to liquidation last year or there would have been a 3rd option for you to consider. Nice vid keep up the good work 👍
Cheers Kevin 👍
The combination of the choice of colours, manual or auto and rear seats, the DT edition would be my choice. Not keen on the GP3 wheel arches !! But I'm beginning to feel sorry for Ruby Roadster, hope she hasn't got wind she might be moving on !! But all in all the MINI is a cracking car.
Not sure she is going anywhere 😜
Hi pete. Great video, some nice exterior moving shots of the car too.
In terms of cost, did you consider a mulgari icon 2 at all? I personally prefer their cars and what they offer on their package to this DT. They do additional engine performance upgrades but with warranty I believe.
Ben
Always nice when you have tracking footage to add to a video 👍
Hi, it would have been good to have seen it on some A & B roads or is it just a track day car? Interesting vid' Pete.
No, its a road car. Not often I get to put a car through it's paces at a proving ground 😜
Always glad to see your videos pop up in my feed. Great looking car. Wish we got this version in the states. What is this color white called.
I'm not actually sure...sorry 😜 I'll see if I can find out 👍
Petrol Ped ha!!! Than you. Good luck with your decision.
Do like the appearance + the handling looks amazing. If it was me, I would go for that, because of the handling, the appearance, and the manual gearbox.But I wouldn`t be happy with a finance option that limited me to 8000 miles. You could spend half of that in traffic jams and 30 mph speed limits, so it wouldn't be a car to visit the local supermarket in!
You could tweak the numbers 👍
Interesting car. I enjoy you pieces, particularly the ones on Minis. I hope you continue to do them, whether or not you buy the GP3.
I personally think the F Series Minis look a bit over weight and nose heavy. The lowered stance on this one definitely improves the looks. With the other tweaks it looks like an interesting package.
Are you planning to do more on Audi RS cars?
Cheers
Always great to get RS cars. My next Audi press car is an SQ2 👍
What would the DT be like with the Lohen Package No2, clutch, coilovers, split diff mods done on Ruby? I reckon it'd be like driving an earthquake, that leaves a cloud of dust behind it like a volcanic pyroclastic flow, and gargles through a set of Pyramid stage speakers. This, however, seems like a real driver's Mini, translating the JCW power to exquisite handling and great looks. Is it the Mini Kidman (as in Nicole)?
Love this comment. The first time anyone has ever used the word pyroclastic in a comment...WELL DONE 👏
Alright Pete, decisions, decisions lol. I have to say the DT edition has got great touches and handling is just as important as power! I understand your dilemma especially the manual 6 speed issue, personally the manual box would swing it for me, and if power was an issue further down the line I'm sure Lohen could help you out.. it's a tough one mate, best of luck choosing. Take care 👍👍👍👍🏁
True first world problem mate 😂
@@PetrolPed
Lol, well good luck deciding Pete, either of the Minis will be a great car to have 👍, take care mate 👍👍👍👍👍🏁
This to me fixes most of what I don't like about the third gen MINI, and it would be easy to spend what it costs on stuff you don't need when speccing a JCW. Still rather have a GP though. ;)
It drives really well 👌
Peter,
It would be interesting to know how many orders of DT Editions have been placed , due to your and Stef's video?
I know of a couple in the first week or two 👍
Official JCW Pro Coil Overs can be fitted to a JCW F56 by a BMW dealer for just under £1600, a bit steep but half the price of the DC upgrade plus adjustable, keeps warranty as official dealer fitted option (insurance company also said no change to JCW F56 premiem as official option and dealer fitted :-) Would still rather have a GP3 than my F56 JCW lowered or this DC1 version!
Interesting. Thanks for this 👍
I think you should cancel the GP order ... But not to buy this, you have Ruby ... But to buy something like a Cayman 👌👌👌..... But if pushed, I would switch - if only to get a manual box
No don't get this instead of the GP... The entire mods package is maybe £1500 plus fitting if purchased independently, and is essentially a basic mods list that any petrol head (ped) would consider having fitted to a standard car anyway and is therefore readily available, it is not special.
The GP is going to be a far more special car from the factory.
Think it comes down to 1 thing........manual or auto 🤔 think I’d be choosing the DT. Nice one 👌
Andrew Lord me too- this is huge!
The auto is pretty good 😜
Great video I think you should get the dt
Cheers 👍
Sounds like it has that really annoying rev hang between gears. I sold my F31 335i because of it. Really annoying feature on many new cars with a manual 'box. Wholly un-necessary too. Wait for the GP!
I bet they would do something to the GP3 for you :) Still looking at getting a clubman jcw to go alongside my jcw roadster, but really like to have a digital dash in it like the GP3, Mini dealer suggest another 2 years before next upgrade when it will be standard :(
Yep, Series 4 Mini will have it 👍
@@PetrolPedCan i really wait that long :(
@@PetrolPed Mini dealer cant even give me a test drive in the clubman jcw they state they don't do top marques demonstrators, that's a way to lose business in my eyes
Great video Pete! Personally, I’m not a fan of “modern” Minis. I go to Oulton Park and watch the classic Might Minis and they just have that special something, don’t get the same feelings when it’s the modern cars. Probably the fact you can have 3 abreast going down Hill top and who’s going to be brave enough to break last for Hislop’s 😅. Anyway, regarding the GP3; I’d say go for it. You won’t see many of them about but if it comes at a cost of selling Ruby Roaster... possibly not. We all know she’s your pride and joy. Will you have a chance to test drive one before you put your money down?
I would love a classic Mini. Big money now though. I actually put my money down on the GP in March last year. O hope to be at the GP3 Press Drives 👍
Another good review but GP3 if that’s less money the DT Edition
16:05 Am i the only one who hates hearing the ratchet when people pull the handbrake on?😡
Jonno180556ADI: Jonno that ages you for the era when you took your car test! I'll stop now before I dig myself a hole...
Nah your not. I don't know why people can't be bothered to press the button, lift and then release. 🤷♂️
Phil B It was a VERY long time ago! But it’s more about the horrid noise and selling many replacement ratchet assembly’s through the years.
At least it has a handbrake
Jonno180556ADI
- When I was taught to drive by my dad 40+ years ago, pressing the button to release the ratchet when you pulled the handbrake on was the correct way to do it.
It's time that we should take @Phil B's spade off of him :-))...
In my opinion the DT is not special enough to consider cancelling the GP3 order.Im guessing the GP3 is a lot more expensive if you’re looking to PCP rather than buy outright.Id be interested to hear if anyone has had a PCP quote on a GP3 to make that comparison.Keep up the content 😎
Getting a quote today 😜
So, in the UK and EU you can get a 2020 Cooper S and JCW with a manual? Nice video, by the way!
Yep 👍
This is sensational! I drive with simple "disabled" driver modifications (hand control for brake/accelerate and pivot bracket on steering wheel) on my 2009 Cooper, means I need auto transmission or grow a third arm. Do you know if anyone has developed voice activated manual transmission "... 4th... 3rd... "?
I love Minis!
I read somewhere that lEon skuM''s company had developed one that spoke to pedestrians - I think it starts advertising after a cetain amount of battery has been used though. Heard nothing about the 'Hoff's K.I.T.T being resurrected from the 80's. Yes, I have lived in 6 decades, before the "old" jibes start.
You could add these mods to an Auto. I wonder if you could do that with Motability 😜
@@stevemccrory9130 KITT was far ahead of its time, I remember it as a kid. I was hoping there might be an interface between electronic gearboxes and voice recognition hardware/software
Hi Ped
DT Edition great looking car, with handling to match. Why not consider the DT and keep Ruby as well🤔🤔 After all its only money!
Very true my friend 👍
I’d buy the GP3 purely because it stands out. Only Mini enthusiasts will be able to distinguish the DT from a regular JCW and I personally love the looks of the GP3 (although I understand they are a bit marmite). Also the GP3 is the ultimate mini (albeit without a manual box 😢)
I will 😜
Hmm I actually like the understated look of this car over the GP. Plus it’s a MANUAL....I think it’s an easy decision, but your coin Pete ! 👍🏻🇨🇦
First world problems 😂
Hmmmmm .... I’d stick with the GP.... This nice but the performance from the GP would and is considerably more. Most of all the GP will hold its value better.
Not a mini follower, but I think the GP3 is worth the wait, the pinnacle of the factory minis.
I agree 👍
I'd have said stick to the GP. Then we see it's got a manual gearbox. That would sway me, big time. Just not in white.
Fantastic though this Mini is, the GP3 is a better car. On the subject of a modified Mini Cooper, have you ever thought of a Mulgari? They offer some amazing cars with full warranties and performance to make even the JCW GP division blush.
Still need to drive a Mulgari 👍
I say GP3 and stop waffling... lol.
Also think you should consider setting up the CID with sport display or driving excitement when filming in a MINI.
Loved the left shoulder side interior segments.
Cheers.
OK...will do 👍
Hi Pete. Could you do a new linked video on this JCWDT but "on the road"? I wont do much track work and somehow it doesn't take my wife the the shops if she sticks to the track.....but I need to pursuade her to keep her Smart for Two and leave the prospective JCWDT for my sole use.
I can ask 👍
GP3 for me still.
Should you cancel the GP3? Absolutely! Why? No ugly wing and the DT has a manual gearbox. It's a no brainer.
Peter J. Uren yeeees! DT has much better lines.
Didn't think apt he manual gear box was available yet....in 2020.
What a dilemma Peter 😁 I suppose you could have 4 minis 👍
At the moment there is a good chance I could have 3 😂
I don't think you'll be happy without a manual mate. Your a spirited driver and I truly think you'd find the GP a let down without a stick.
It's easy to get a normal JCW to the same power as a GP anyway.
I think you should get the JCW and create contents on modifying it for more power.
Very tempting 👍
@@PetrolPed more than welcome to have a go in mine to compare, which incidentally looks very similar to that white DT edition one! Mines running similar to GP power.
So is this basically the Mini equivalent of an M140i Motech Edition? 🤔
yes
Yep 👍
Looks really smart 👌
Purely a personal opinion I do think it’s an example of style over substance.
For those of a certain age who might remember that magazine “Cars and Car Conversions” it really seems like a bit of a bitsa. I accept as I type this you’re saying it’s done subtly and it’s all suspension based. But not for me.
I remember that mag 👍
Petrol Ped: Halcyon days, with my recent GLA 45 I can look back and see I’ve journeyed a long way since buying a stick on rear screen heater for my MkII Cortina. TBP 150F - where are you now?? 😎😎
The GP has larger gentleman bits under the hood.
It sure does 😂
Peter,
It looks so much better than the GP3 without the cock up of wheel arch extensions appendage . Do you really need the massive rear wing. Would the 306 bhp engine just do it. Manual box- tempting imo especially around your local twisty country roads, in particular in Cornwall.
What colour would you have. Wouldn't have white.
Rebel Green or Dark Blue 👍
@@PetrolPedPeter,
Pretty much agree with your options.
Hopefully I will own a mini soon. Dream 2 car garage would be a mini cooper jcw and a Lamborghini gallardo
I like your style 👍
@@PetrolPed I will make it happen 🤟🏽
hmmmm... wonder if I can do this to my Roadster (or very close to it)....
Yep 👍
Pete i would expect the GP to be on a par with the DT for handling and better on looks but with more power, better dash and still a limited run, stay with the GP.
I like your thinking 👍
how much more power? Are the brakes the same?
@@smoke05s GP3 has about 70 more hp than the JCW (or DT which is a JCW) The GP3 will toast the DT all day long in both power and handling. The brakes are the same on both, and plenty powerful enough (4 pot Brembos.)
In this time you should buy neither GP3 nor JCW but Cooper SE.
That is so much more better looking than the GP. Cancel the GP with its daft wheel arches and get one of these. Usable too
I am not a fan of the F-type Mini's looks but the front splitter is a definite improvement. Wheels are horrible and they are very concave like the JCW ones in order to clear the calipers. I think these let the looks down.
A set of Eibach springs can be bought for a few hundred quid.
Defo needs a wheel upgrade 👍
Convex, not concave...
Just buy a second hand Cooper S and modify it! Seen a couple of your videos with Lohen, I'm going to be heading up there again soon with my F56 S :)
So tempting 👍
Just wondered if and of the DT mods will / could be making their way onto Charlie Clubman?
Mmm 🤔
100% you should cancel the GP3 order. However, if you’re buying* it purely to generate interest in your channel I’m sure you could probably justify the huge cost and perhaps offset some of the depreciation through Adsense (you’re welcome). Cancelling may also upset your brand relationship with MINI though I suppose? 🤫
* renting if using PCP.
Being a TH-camr does throw another angle in the mix that's for sure 😜
👍good
I am going for this DT Edition over the GP3. Reason is mainly I want the heads up which I cant get in the GP3 or my M2 Comp, come to that. Anyone interested in my M2 Competition 2019 4.6k miles? Household Management Convincer? (HMC) is to avoid any possibility of travel slickness (sorry, sickness).
I've also just seen that the GP has no parking sensors - something absolutely essential in a £4k car. Apart from a F1 car, I think
Hi just watched well started to watch this video I have mini jwc and I’m sorry I know I’m not best driver but u could have put the foot down that should have been well over 140/150 on the straight alone I know mine buffers out at 155 obviously restricted you need to do it again please
Anyone can drive fast in a straight line and the mods to this car were all about handling and not power, hence concentrating on cornering 👍
Beautiful, except the wheels that I will change.
Yep , I agree. This is a base spec car 👍
Is that pepper white or metallic white ? Thanks
Ooo...not sure 😬
Ahh Bruntingthorpe, I remember it well from the days when I was a Fire Marshall at the Drag Races in the 1980’s. Just a bit confused Peter, I thought you had committed to buying the GP3 after much deliberation ? Yes the mod’s on this one are good but it’s not going to hold its value in the future .......... is it ?
Don’t worry I have. Just being creative with the video title 😜
@@PetrolPed Click baiting us now, things aren't that bad are they??? Seriously though do these mods make the car faster or just styling/handling mods?
Agree with Geof above, GP3 will keep value long term better than any other MINI.
Not click bait if it is a genuine question 😜 Not faster in a straight line but certainly quicker through the corners 👍
@@PetrolPed Stick with GP, better overall package. If you don't you will always be wondering what if.....
I place an order for the GP3 with tech pack. I wouldn’t cancel my GP3 for this DT edition. GP3 is unique with that huge spoiler. Also place an order on Yaris GR. Two different car. GP3 front wheel drive auto and GR 4wd manual. I’m going to have both 😂😂😂
You lucky thing 👍
Color?
If you get 007 it's gonna be a serious British feel ....
Gotta be green 👍
Does Charlie Clubman have just a hint of DT DNA?
A little 👍
Did you drive the Clubman JCW over? Track that to this. What you lose in the curve you get more then that back in the straight. Keep the GP.
I nearly did, but ended up going in my JCW Roadster👍
Or do you just keep ruby roadster? Is there enough difference? Are you caught in a trap?
First world problems 😂