RR really had the perfect interior on the 2023 vogue but nah they prefered oversimplifying for a boring and non practical tesla interior ( have 300€ on the bank btw 🤣)
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I have a 2019 D240 SE and I love every second. Very quiet, drives very smoothly, giant boot and I'd say even very good fuel economy for its size. I also agree it looks far more luxurious than an X3 or Q5. If the insurance was cheaper I'd keep it for another 10 years. And yes, I won't be buying a new one just because of the new screen.
I have had my current car for over 5 years. It's got physical buttons and each time I need a function I still need to look down to spot which of the tiny buttons is the one I need.
I don’t agree about the 2 litre diesel. I had one, it’s not brilliant, and they have a habit of seizing. Apparently all of them will break eventually, that is a serious problem for Land Rover! Don’t get me wrong , it’s a great car let down by the engine.
And actually how many time in your life would you need to change temperature in a car? You basically put it in 21 degrees and leave it there. I don’t understand all this fuss about physical buttons for climate control. It is one of least used features on a car.
You never see these on Irish roads! It’s priced against the BMW X5, Mercedes GLE and Audi Q7. I mean… why would anyone buy this car over those models. Heck, you can step into a Porsche Cayenne’s for an extra 10k!!!
Problem is now with the dealers. They are all losing their agencies to the Brand themselves. So it won’t be a local dealer making decisions about customer service, it will be some guy in germany. (If the warranty is out by a day, you pay, while the dealer would have argued on your behalf. It’s a fashion within the industry, which will go against the customer.
I ordered. A new Defender 90 in March and was really unsure as to whether to proceed or opt for a Velar 3.0D HSE Dynamic as you can find one up to £5k less than the brilliant deal i had on my 90. The Defender 90 is totally impractical due to 3 doors & no boot compared with the Velar with both having the superb D300 engine…. The residual value won it for me on the Defender so I’m glad I factory ordered one to my exact specification. Definitely a Velar for my later years though as JLR really are Premium & highly successful brand not forgetting the best 4x4xFar.. You just can’t beat JLR with the mimicking German wannabes..
I owned it from 2018 till 2023. I loved everything about it except the engine. It was a first model edition, so full of extras including air suspension, massage seats led lights etc. I use an suv to drive off road which it did perfectly for me, I never had to go on extreme trails. The 2 liter diesel however was a different story, it was loud, rough and eventually all of them seize. It is so bad that trading it in was a bit of an issue, some dealers won’t take anything in with that engine over here (Ireland) because they have to give a warranty on it, and their experience is so bad.
I have a D240 HSE 2017. I hate the new centre console and gear shift. My one at least has the drama of the upper screen pivoting and the rising , rotary gear selector. The rotary dials which control various function are good but could be weighted a bit more. The new version is just an example of cost cutting. In terms of reliability I have had to replace the compressor for the air suspension and the rear light units which are prone to leak and then pack up. The D240 is very refined and only feels agricultural under hard acceleration . Overall I have been very pleased with the car.
Having used the screen in a courtesy Evoke, I agree, it is a retrograde step and I can only put it down to cost savings. It cheapens the interior and also it even looks like the graphics for the HVAC have been 'shoehorned' to fit on the screen.
You've got to be kidding me! Every other manufacturer is reacting to the backlash against everything being on a touchscreen, and re-implementing some functions back on to physical buttons/knobs/etc. Yet RR actually decide to plough on with this ridiculous practice, and make their interior functions WORSE! They were applauded for retaining the functional - and classy looking - knobs, when rivals were alienating customers by insisting they use touchscreens...... RR - WHAT WERE YOU THINKING???
I appreciate that he said the cheapest one was the model to get, but still ; £55k?! Good review , but I left it thinking it makes far more sense to buy a Kia Sorerento , 2-3 years old,,for less than half the money . Bigger, distinctive looking and much much much more reliable . Still 4 years left on the warranty too!
Eletronic Velar car Rover still keeps being an luxurious and glamorous car I also liked a lot the new design, the seats can be costumizated later it doesn't turn this beautiful car less worthy
Who remembers when they were telling us not to use phones whilst driving and then they make you use a touch screen for everything, taking your eyes off the road 😮
I had a play with Hyundai/Kia’s new CCNC infotainment system and it’s much better than this thing - putting everything on the screen especially when main items are only accessible behind more that one button press is just stupid.
It’s so quick to change the climate… literally click on the icon and adjust .. as quick as dials .. so I don’t understand what all the drama is about. After you’ve changed the temp it automatically goes back to the map if ur using nav.. so no issue Most cars have one infotainment system so it’s not new to Land Rover
JLR have lost the plot. Buttons and knobs are good they have worked for a hundred years. You don't have to look at them. Also my PHEV can do 38 miles on 11kw. But then it doesn't have the aerodynamics of Finland like the Range Rover.
After that downgrade on the centre console, which is clear that it was a cost-effective implementation, I couldn't watch the remaining of the video. I just lost interest.
Great video, thank you. As much as I like the look I would never buy any model of landrover because of its reliability issues. Why do LR concentrate on building a reliable car rather than messing around with the buttons and stuff. They keep doing the same old things! Nice car let down by reliability… what a shame
How many years has it been that the auto journalist business has been slagging touch screen controls? And yet manufacturers keep packing more into touch screens and taking away buttons and dials.
I’m still baffled by the X6/Q8 comparison. Consumer review that reviews completely different products and ends with “reliability aside”. . . I wouldn’t take that advice
Been a Land and Range Rover owner since 1996, none has been unreliable but……….. my 2023 Defender 90 has been off the road a month for a self destructing DPF. 2 weeks later and it went in for a security system update and something else that couldn’t be done OTA on Friday morning and it’s been stuck on the dealership computer terminal all weekend because it’s electronic power steering has bricked it’s ECU during the update download/ installation …………. I’m lucky I have another car that is an EV with 90% of controls on a screen and no way will I have another car with no climate controls by switches and knobs and in that brand new car the voice activation cannot understand the I’m too cold or I’m too hot instruction, in fact it doesn’t understand any voice instructions because it tells me that English isn’t supported in the language settings……….. this is a brand new electric Mini Countryman made in Germany - btw it cannot understand German, French, Spanish or Italian either! It also won’t give satnav routing instructions in those languages. When will car designers learn just how inconvenient and dangerous it is to have to take your eyes off the road to see where on a touch screen you have to tap an icon to go into a sub-menu to scroll through a page to adjust a setting.
This review neglects to mention insurance costs which takes away from all the theory about 'good value'. Had a 2021 version from brand new. Not a single issue with it. I love it. But it's about to cost £3500 to renew the insurance (cheapest quote), up from an equally ridiculous £2500, so it's time to go 😭
40 Miles ? What a waste of time, we had the RRS P400e about 30 miles officially but only 25 in reality which was fine for my wife’s daily commute but useless when going into a ULEZ zone as it still puffs out toxic fumes. I don’t think we will be swapping the Tesla for this, plus the maintenance for a dual engined vehicle is extortionate. Apart from that all the usual RR refinements, nice space to be in for long trips just the ongoing costs of liquid fuel and maintenance thats the down side…..and thats a big downside
New interior is a HUGE step backwards in design and function. My gf hated it so much she walked out and got a used 2020 at a different dealer instead. Cost cutting run amok in the automotive industry. 🤮
Good car but for me it's just a Discovery Sport for pretentious badge snobs. Disco Sport is the same size if not a bit bigger and the same car underneath so for anyone who isnt pretentious snob - get a Disco Sport instead.
Commentary is full of contradictions. You either think the back is an acceptable place to sit or it isn’t. As for the car- Hate the screen. Where is the tactile feel of quality! It’s not felt on a screen.
Interior touchscreen down to one screen just to save cash. Is anyone actually buying these. Haven't seen any 24 plates on the road. Are many people actually going into dealers these days with £55,000 - £70000 in their back pockets or are they being financed on PCPs
Unfortunately a "dealer" wants to add on 30% + above the car's basic worth. Which is why the whole industry is in decline- and thus the coming tranche of over-priced replacements are also in sales decline. Add-in the criminal behaviour of numerous vehicle "Finance" companies ( that are currently looking at killer fines and investigation by Government) and we have a 'Perfect Storm' - where the consumer doesn't believe one single word, that is coming out of the car industry's mouth.
So, unreliable, poorly thought out interior, poor battery range after which you're basically dragging a half ton brick around and it's not even a proper Range Rover It just supports the age old adage that you buy cars like this when you can't afford the real thing
Great car review, but horrible consumer review. I don’t think WhatCar understands the segment that this product competes in. Comparing it to products that are one class above is nonsensical and it renders any commentary about the quality vs price moot. This car competes with the Audi Q5, BMW X3/X4, Volvo XC60, Mercedes GLC and Porsche Macan. Is it more expensive? Is it bad quality for the price? Is it horrible value for money? (The answer is yes to all three, btw) Tell me how it stacks up against those cars, not against cars I would never cross-shop with a Velar. Lastly, to end the video by saying “reliability aside, I think the velar is a great car” is BAD consumer advice. Overall, not a great consumer review.
I don't understand the "motoring press". How can you have the brass balls to champion the Velar as a LUXURY SUV when it sits in the UK's top 5 worse reliable vehicles? When you should be like Clarkson and tell JLR to sort their shit quality out. Kiss their arses is never going to sort out the reliability issues.
Awful cheap looking interior! What on earth were RR thinking when removing the 2nd screen and leaving a mass of plastic. Volvo, BMW and Audi all offer much better quality interiors. This Velar is a step down compared to the previous model. You have to be desperate or a badge snob to buy this car, especially when there is so much better competition.
The engine is crap a poor quality product but it will look nice when it's broken down on the side of the road engeered to fail just out side of warranty I am in thr motor trade forty years will not touch one
I definitely don't want to fiddle with a screen while driving to change the temp. That's stupid and dangerous. This trend has to die.
So much chat about changing the climate temp, genuinely who changes their temperature that often? mine's been on Auto 19C for 4 years...... 🙂
“Range rover set temp to X degrees” , “range rover increase fan speed” isnt hard dude. Never get this argument
Physical buttons are dangerous too, just change settings when you're pulled over. Simple
@@iCozzh What if you're deaf?
@@HazeFC. What % of car buyers are deaf? I also never said this should be the only control. What a dense argument
Cost savings in interior?
no one asked for a TESLA interior but we sure are getting them from every manfacturer
Cost cutting.
RR really had the perfect interior on the 2023 vogue but nah they prefered oversimplifying for a boring and non practical tesla interior ( have 300€ on the bank btw 🤣)
I have a 2019 D240 SE and I love every second. Very quiet, drives very smoothly, giant boot and I'd say even very good fuel economy for its size. I also agree it looks far more luxurious than an X3 or Q5. If the insurance was cheaper I'd keep it for another 10 years. And yes, I won't be buying a new one just because of the new screen.
I'm getting one same year bc I drove the new and was Not impressed
"But" was the most used word throughout the review, including a big disclaimer for reliability. How does that work for a luxury product?
All JLR products are notoriously unreliable, I can't imagine this vehicle will be any different, unfortunately.
It always is with this guy
In his defense, when was the last time "luxury" and "reliability" been in the same sentence regarding a car? 😂😂😂
Looks cheaper inside than before but maybe a different colour like beige/tan would help lift the ambiance
These are full of plastic and are a huge disappointment.
Centre screen looks like an afterthought; a glued-on iPad.
Very true!
I have had my current car for over 5 years. It's got physical buttons and each time I need a function I still need to look down to spot which of the tiny buttons is the one I need.
I don’t agree about the 2 litre diesel. I had one, it’s not brilliant, and they have a habit of seizing. Apparently all of them will break eventually, that is a serious problem for Land Rover! Don’t get me wrong , it’s a great car let down by the engine.
Out of interest, what model did you have? How long did you own it? How many miles did you do? What issue(s) did you experience? Thanks
The engine timing setup was revised in 2019 to alleviate the main issues with the 2.0 engine.
I had the d240 2 litre diesel and the engine and turbo packed in, ended up swapping for the d300 v6. Far superior engine. Wouldn’t touch the ingeniums
My wife runs a velar and is very happy with it, but the loss of physical climate controls means she will not be buying another
And actually how many time in your life would you need to change temperature in a car? You basically put it in 21 degrees and leave it there. I don’t understand all this fuss about physical buttons for climate control. It is one of least used features on a car.
@@arturodomini I change mine constantly, like 5 times per trip actually
You never see these on Irish roads! It’s priced against the BMW X5, Mercedes GLE and Audi Q7. I mean… why would anyone buy this car over those models. Heck, you can step into a Porsche Cayenne’s for an extra 10k!!!
Problem is now with the dealers. They are all losing their agencies to the Brand themselves. So it won’t be a local dealer making decisions about customer service, it will be some guy in germany. (If the warranty is out by a day, you pay, while the dealer would have argued on your behalf. It’s a fashion within the industry, which will go against the customer.
I ordered. A new Defender 90 in March and was really unsure as to whether to proceed or opt for a Velar 3.0D HSE Dynamic as you can find one up to £5k less than the brilliant deal i had on my 90.
The Defender 90 is totally impractical due to 3 doors & no boot compared with the Velar with both having the superb D300 engine….
The residual value won it for me on the Defender so I’m glad I factory ordered one to my exact specification.
Definitely a Velar for my later years though as JLR really are Premium & highly successful brand not forgetting the best 4x4xFar..
You just can’t beat JLR with the mimicking German wannabes..
Their marketing strategies were made for you
I don't think the Velar compares with the Q8 or X6. The Range Rover Sport rivals those cars
They’re clearly comparing apples to oranges
I owned it from 2018 till 2023. I loved everything about it except the engine. It was a first model edition, so full of extras including air suspension, massage seats led lights etc. I use an suv to drive off road which it did perfectly for me, I never had to go on extreme trails.
The 2 liter diesel however was a different story, it was loud, rough and eventually all of them seize. It is so bad that trading it in was a bit of an issue, some dealers won’t take anything in with that engine over here (Ireland) because they have to give a warranty on it, and their experience is so bad.
Woeful reliability record and good luck keeping hold of it
If you want to be a platinum member in a repair shop….LR is the way to go 😂
I have a D240 HSE 2017. I hate the new centre console and gear shift. My one at least has the drama of the upper screen pivoting and the rising , rotary gear selector. The rotary dials which control various function are good but could be weighted a bit more. The new version is just an example of cost cutting.
In terms of reliability I have had to replace the compressor for the air suspension and the rear light units which are prone to leak and then pack up. The D240 is very refined and only feels agricultural under hard acceleration .
Overall I have been very pleased with the car.
Having used the screen in a courtesy Evoke, I agree, it is a retrograde step and I can only put it down to cost savings. It cheapens the interior and also it even looks like the graphics for the HVAC have been 'shoehorned' to fit on the screen.
You've got to be kidding me! Every other manufacturer is reacting to the backlash against everything being on a touchscreen, and re-implementing some functions back on to physical buttons/knobs/etc. Yet RR actually decide to plough on with this ridiculous practice, and make their interior functions WORSE! They were applauded for retaining the functional - and classy looking - knobs, when rivals were alienating customers by insisting they use touchscreens...... RR - WHAT WERE YOU THINKING???
I believe voice commands can take care of most things, why don’t reviewers mention
this
Is the Velar really a competitor to the x6? Would have assumed x3/4
I would’ve thought so myself
Nice if you can insure it and you don’t mind the unreliability 🤷🏻♂️
Can it be insured?
Good review all boxes well covered and info you need great video .
Buy one of these and you'll get to know the dealerships mechanic by first name....
I appreciate that he said the cheapest one was the model to get, but still ; £55k?!
Good review , but I left it thinking it makes far more sense to buy a Kia Sorerento , 2-3 years old,,for less than half the money . Bigger, distinctive looking and much much much more reliable . Still 4 years left on the warranty too!
Eletronic Velar car Rover still keeps being an luxurious and glamorous car I also liked a lot the new design, the seats can be costumizated later it doesn't turn this beautiful car less worthy
Who remembers when they were telling us not to use phones whilst driving and then they make you use a touch screen for everything, taking your eyes off the road 😮
I had a play with Hyundai/Kia’s new CCNC infotainment system and it’s much better than this thing - putting everything on the screen especially when main items are only accessible behind more that one button press is just stupid.
Fits 10 suitcases but phev loses 2 which is 50 litres (25L each). Does that mean boot capacity for normal ICE version is 250 litres?!
I prefer to choose BYD with the luxury segment for future proof.😃😃
It’s so quick to change the climate… literally click on the icon and adjust .. as quick as dials .. so I don’t understand what all the drama is about. After you’ve changed the temp it automatically goes back to the map if ur using nav.. so no issue
Most cars have one infotainment system so it’s not new to Land Rover
JLR have lost the plot. Buttons and knobs are good they have worked for a hundred years. You don't have to look at them. Also my PHEV can do 38 miles on 11kw. But then it doesn't have the aerodynamics of Finland like the Range Rover.
After that downgrade on the centre console, which is clear that it was a cost-effective implementation, I couldn't watch the remaining of the video. I just lost interest.
Another excellent review, Doug
Great video, thank you. As much as I like the look I would never buy any model of landrover because of its reliability issues. Why do LR concentrate on building a reliable car rather than messing around with the buttons and stuff. They keep doing the same old things! Nice car let down by reliability… what a shame
How many years has it been that the auto journalist business has been slagging touch screen controls? And yet manufacturers keep packing more into touch screens and taking away buttons and dials.
Free breakdown cover
Another great video, keep up with great work.
Can't wait to see EV version of Velar it would suit car great
This looks to be way off the pace in almost every area. You’d have to be stupid to part with your hard-earned
We hear in the media their becoming uninsurable due to thief risk, not mentioned in comments.
Consumer review ends with: “reliability aside.” Nice.
With added reliability?
Shouldn’t this be compared with a BMW X3/X4?
I’m still baffled by the X6/Q8 comparison. Consumer review that reviews completely different products and ends with “reliability aside”. . . I wouldn’t take that advice
Best looking suv itw, its just perfect
Love Velar.
Think a Volvo XC60/90 are a much better bet, and better built too..
Been a Land and Range Rover owner since 1996, none has been unreliable but……….. my 2023 Defender 90 has been off the road a month for a self destructing DPF. 2 weeks later and it went in for a security system update and something else that couldn’t be done OTA on Friday morning and it’s been stuck on the dealership computer terminal all weekend because it’s electronic power steering has bricked it’s ECU during the update download/ installation ………….
I’m lucky I have another car that is an EV with 90% of controls on a screen and no way will I have another car with no climate controls by switches and knobs and in that brand new car the voice activation cannot understand the I’m too cold or I’m too hot instruction, in fact it doesn’t understand any voice instructions because it tells me that English isn’t supported in the language settings……….. this is a brand new electric Mini Countryman made in Germany - btw it cannot understand German, French, Spanish or Italian either! It also won’t give satnav routing instructions in those languages. When will car designers learn just how inconvenient and dangerous it is to have to take your eyes off the road to see where on a touch screen you have to tap an icon to go into a sub-menu to scroll through a page to adjust a setting.
Put the physical buttons back 😁, screens are way more dangerous when adjusting when driving
Apart from reliability!!!
This review neglects to mention insurance costs which takes away from all the theory about 'good value'. Had a 2021 version from brand new. Not a single issue with it. I love it. But it's about to cost £3500 to renew the insurance (cheapest quote), up from an equally ridiculous £2500, so it's time to go 😭
40 Miles ? What a waste of time, we had the RRS P400e about 30 miles officially but only 25 in reality which was fine for my wife’s daily commute but useless when going into a ULEZ zone as it still puffs out toxic fumes. I don’t think we will be swapping the Tesla for this, plus the maintenance for a dual engined vehicle is extortionate.
Apart from that all the usual RR refinements, nice space to be in for long trips just the ongoing costs of liquid fuel and maintenance thats the down side…..and thats a big downside
Never buy options... always go for higher trim levels where the equipment is standard.
New interior is a HUGE step backwards in design and function. My gf hated it so much she walked out and got a used 2020 at a different dealer instead. Cost cutting run amok in the automotive industry. 🤮
Ok
Oh dear I love how car companies improve the new model by making it worse.
A lot of money for a car that will spend more time broken down than on the road
Good car but for me it's just a Discovery Sport for pretentious badge snobs. Disco Sport is the same size if not a bit bigger and the same car underneath so for anyone who isnt pretentious snob - get a Disco Sport instead.
I thought it would cost a lot more TBH
No knobs and buttons on the dash = no buy.
Is it reliable compared to the Range Rover?
No!
£54+ entry level unreliable vehicle. No way.
Why is this not a full EV yet? 🤷🏻♂️
The old interior was just better
Can you please review Mercedes cla coupe
Commentary is full of contradictions. You either think the back is an acceptable place to sit or it isn’t. As for the car- Hate the screen. Where is the tactile feel of quality! It’s not felt on a screen.
Are you saying that Velar competes with the X6?
What are you saying?
@@digastic6018think he’s saying the Range Rover sport should be competing with X6, which is believable tbf
No mention of the 4 cylinder JLR diesel engine being horribly unreliable 🙄
Nobody wants a plain looking interior in a luxury suv
Interior touchscreen down to one screen just to save cash. Is anyone actually buying these. Haven't seen any 24 plates on the road. Are many people actually going into dealers these days with £55,000 - £70000 in their back pockets or are they being financed on PCPs
Bargain? Perhaps at £26K - £30K for a 3 year old one from a dealer, with a warranty…but not new.
Unfortunately a "dealer" wants to add on 30% + above the car's basic worth. Which is why the whole industry is in decline- and thus the coming tranche of over-priced replacements are also in sales decline. Add-in the criminal behaviour of numerous vehicle "Finance" companies ( that are currently looking at killer fines and investigation by Government) and we have a 'Perfect Storm' - where the consumer doesn't believe one single word, that is coming out of the car industry's mouth.
awesome ❤❤❤
This car looked better inside and outside. They managed to downgrade their vehicles.
So, unreliable, poorly thought out interior, poor battery range after which you're basically dragging a half ton brick around and it's not even a proper Range Rover
It just supports the age old adage that you buy cars like this when you can't afford the real thing
A velar's BMW equivalent would be a BMW X3/X4 not the X5/X6
Will this model also spend more time in the shop than on the road? The interior is a real let down. Looks cheap and Dodge-like.
Yuk.. touch screen just to change the climate controls. Dealbreaker for me.
How is this progress. Change for change sake.. pointless.. but it will sell…
Guaranteed to breakdown. Guaranteed
It was better before 😕
Nice until someone nicks it
Great car review, but horrible consumer review. I don’t think WhatCar understands the segment that this product competes in. Comparing it to products that are one class above is nonsensical and it renders any commentary about the quality vs price moot. This car competes with the Audi Q5, BMW X3/X4, Volvo XC60, Mercedes GLC and Porsche Macan. Is it more expensive? Is it bad quality for the price? Is it horrible value for money? (The answer is yes to all three, btw)
Tell me how it stacks up against those cars, not against cars I would never cross-shop with a Velar. Lastly, to end the video by saying “reliability aside, I think the velar is a great car” is BAD consumer advice. Overall, not a great consumer review.
Should be taxed at 100%
Any comparisons to a Renault 😂
Soon appearing on a hard shoulder near you.
I don't understand the "motoring press". How can you have the brass balls to champion the Velar as a LUXURY SUV when it sits in the UK's top 5 worse reliable vehicles? When you should be like Clarkson and tell JLR to sort their shit quality out. Kiss their arses is never going to sort out the reliability issues.
This car is as dangerous as using your phone while driving
❤ it
Awful cheap looking interior! What on earth were RR thinking when removing the 2nd screen and leaving a mass of plastic. Volvo, BMW and Audi all offer much better quality interiors. This Velar is a step down compared to the previous model. You have to be desperate or a badge snob to buy this car, especially when there is so much better competition.
What’s wrong with using voice commands instead of the obsession of using the screen?
Not a fan of the velar
Manufacturers are across the board downgrading quality and increasing prices. Like we won’t notice. No, thanks. Keep your plastic trash.
Interior is very bland and meh, nothing interesting or exciting about, you could put any badge on that car. Dull
The engine is crap a poor quality product but it will look nice when it's broken down on the side of the road engeered to fail just out side of warranty I am in thr motor trade forty years will not touch one
Quite a bland interior and step back.
interior seems like a downgrade...
Overpriced eyesore 🤮
Disgusting interior, Indian designers have spoilt it
1st view
It's just not good enough
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