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- This is an in-depth guide I made on how to re-shim your worn R200 Viscous LSD out of your Nissan Silvia or Skyline. With only a small cost to purchase some shims and some patience this is a great option for enthusiasts who want to drift on a budget.
The shims can be ordered through your Nissan parts dealer or from a few online stores.
The Nissan parts numbers for the shims are:
0.80mm = 3842440F60
0.85mm = 3842440F62
0.90mm = 3842440F63
1.01mm = 3842440F67
1.05mm = 3842440F68
1.10mm = 3842440F70
1.20mm = 3842440F73
1.30mm = 3842440F76
1.40mm = 3842440F80
1.49mm = 3842440F83
I hope this helps :) -Joe Yates
watched this about 10 times now, taking my abs diff out tomorrow so i can take out the internals from an r32 non abs diff and put it in my abs house. this helps alot thanks
You're welcome mate, glad it has helped you sp far with your own build 😀✌
Ahhh man I'm about to rip out my r200 diff and see how bad it is. Might be a little how ya goin 😂 invaluable info mate thanks
Thanks mate, appreciate it. Hope it goes well and you sort it out nicely. 🙂🤙
Very informative video dude. Thanks man
Gonna be doing this to my r33 gtst, I was very fortunate my s15 came with a nismo or Cusco diff already
Thanks Tony, appreciate the kind feedback mate and that you got value from the vid.
The shimmed VLSD works a treat once setup well 👌🙂
@@JoeYates77 no no no good sir thank you for making the video in the first place. In your experience would you say that I should do the 2 X 1mm shims as per your video…
It’s a street car that I would like to lock up easily but don’t want it to sound like a welded diff in parking lots etc
Would this fix a diff that locks intermittently? Kinda dangerous the way it is.
which differntial is this? OEM s15 one?
Great vid bro gunna do this to my r200 on my 33 gtst
Thanks bro
Fantastic mate, looking at opening up my diff and checking it out, thanks for the detailed video and nissan part numbers.
If you need any help, shoot me a message. Nismo are like the best for street for a 2 way as well so you have a great one already then. It would be interesting to know what diff ratio you are running, it will be printed on the crown wheel/ring gear 🙂
I did as you at 1:50, the axle came ou/looset but not all the way. The Last bit of haft Still stuck in the diff
Try carefully hitting it harder, they are usually stuck in pretty hard. If it's come out a bit, you're nearly there. The only risk now is maybe breaking the circuit that it's catching on. Usually the c clip is fine and you can reuse although workshop manuals usually say to replace it. Try hitting it harder at different points on the stub axle flange. You're nearly there! Hope that helps.
@@JoeYates77 ok 👍 😁 i Will take a look again tomorrow the right axle/hub had alot of play in it and im not sure why. Also Not sure what diffs in there.. on the cover someone been writing 38420-RS020-A. But dont look like One. Its atleast a 2way, 😂🤷
How do I know if my diff is a R200...I have a 1991 Nissan Skyline gtst rb20det
I know I'm 4 years late. But after doing this would you recommend also how long did it last?
@dancharlesworth8863 lasted a good while easily 8 drift events approx. I changed it out for a Kaaz sports version of their 2 way lsd but didn't lock as well as the ahimmed because the break away torque of the Kaaz was low. The normal 16 plate Kaaz 2 way however is very good. I'd recommend Nismo 2 way tho now but honestly if on a budget reshim a vlsd, they work great. I just reshimmed a 350z vlsd diff for my next diff upgrade, long story.... currently have the new Nismo 2 way in but yet to test. I'm currently upgrading my gearbox hence why yet another diff upgrade for different ratio
Great job
Thanks mate.
@Edgar Zechariah thanks Edgar, if you do it right and lock it enough and just get the sizing right it should work nicely. I'm glad it's working for you. For my diff, that same diff that was shimmed, it's lasted two drift events so far :)
Any relation to Beau??
No unfortunately not, tho wouldn't that be cool. One of Australia's very own 'OG' original top drifters.
Do you know if I could change the 5x1 stub axle piece out for the 3x2 s15 stub axle pattern?I want to fit a r33 skyline diff in my s15 without having to change axles ?
I believe the splines on the stub axles are a different count, so they won't mate and fit together. You would need an r33 gtst long nose ABS diff with 5 bolt stub axles and driveshafts to match.
Thank you for your reply I really really needed that information . I appreciate that a lot 🙏🏽💯
Hey mate, what’s the max amount of shim you can run/fit? (In millimetres)
I've not tried more than 1.2mm approx. Id say about maximum 2mm extra thickness. That will be locked hard. It's a bit of trial and error, I've had great sucess just adding 1mm of extra.
hey joe....also @20:32 you say that the shorter side goes in the passenger side. is this correct? im pretty sure on my j30 the shorter side is on the driver side, but ive taken so long to get it all back together im kinda not sure anymore haha.
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If your having trouble putting it back in, you can put the casing on a press and light enough pressure on other axis will open it enough to slide in the diff assembly
If mine has a bit of in and out movement on one side of the stub axles. What does that mean? Or what can I do to fix it?
A little bit is ok, this is normal from what I am aware. There will be a little bit of movement until the C clip stops the stub axle/shaft from coming out. Nothing to be too concerned about unless of course you can pull it right out!
Thanks for your reply.
What do you think?
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It's fine man. Once the hub nut is fastened at the hub/brake disk, the driveshaft won't move much at all at the diff. Mine was also like this. I'd consider this to be normal.
What part numbers? And shim thickness pls?
Hey Doug,
The shim sizes and Nissan parts numbers are below. I added x 1 extra shim and replaced the worn shim which was about 0.75mm with another new shim.) The size I used was the 1.01mm shim x 2. Hope this helps :)
0.80mm = 3842440F60
0.85mm = 3842440F62
0.90mm = 3842440F63
1.01mm = 3842440F67
1.05mm = 3842440F68
1.10mm = 3842440F70
1.20mm = 3842440F73
1.30mm = 3842440F76
1.40mm = 3842440F80
1.49mm = 3842440F83
@@JoeYates77 Hmm interesting...
What was the point of re shimming the diff again?
To make the centre essentially locked without welding it. This diff I installed is an R33 R200 with stronger 5 bolt flanges and driveshafts. It originally has a Viscous Coupling Type (VLSD) centre which has a shim either side of the internal coupling and works off friction by movement of the shims against the coupling. When the oil heats up from movement it binds. Shimming the diff centre by adding an extra shim or replacing the worn shims effectively locks it and or makes it tight. Its essentially a cheaper alternative to sourcing and installing a mechanical clutch type LSD. How locked you want it is up to how thick and how many shims you install. Usually you might just say, remove the worn shims and replace them adding one extra. It's a great option if you don't want to weld the centre but main key point is that it's a budget/cheaper option compared to say a good mechanical clutch type LSD centre. Hope this helps :)
@@JoeYates77 ahh i see now. Just affects how the diff locks. Gotcha. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly!
@@spiritdrift6207 you're welcome mate, anytime 🙂✌hopefully in the future I'll be able to splash the cash on a nice Nismo GT LSD but for now it's working well. (6 x drift days so far) 🙂👍
Hot damn dude, just discovered your channel!
You got a new sub, love when fellow aussies make content 🙌🏽
Thanks mate, much appreciated ✌🙂
Great video! I have seen numerous posts and videos suggesting that the extra shim washer go on the other side of the VLSD unit (closer to the ring gear). Have you tried that? Do you reckon it matters which side it goes on? I have followed your instructions for my '88 Nissan Z31 VLSD but wonder if I should move the shim to the other side before reassembling...
I don't think it matters too much which side it goes on but good rule of thumb is to replace the existing one in the same location but with more thickness. Or if the shim is in good condition you can add 1 x smaller one as an extra. I replaced mine with slightly thicker ones and then added an extra for good measure. Sorry about the late reply, hope you got it sorted in the end 🙂✌
What is the reason for new shimms? Will it lock up better after installing new ones?
The new shims replaced 1x badly worn out shim. Also adding another in adds to increase how much the l.s.d is locked. Every viscous r200 lsd is different, you may need one thicker, and or an extra shim. I have 3 x in mine. Depends on what's already there and how much the shims have worn. Its sometimes a little trial and error. I added in one extra shim and replaced the worn shim with one a little thicker. You can get the shims in different thickness sizes. Hope this helps :)
Joe I love your videos, keep making these, you're good at them!
Thanks filip, means alot bro 🙂
Hey, how many of each shim? or is your description what you actually used?
Depends on how worn the original ones in your diff are, also I'd say replace them if they look badly worn with the same thickness then add about 1mm of shim. It's something you kind of have to experiment with. Increasing the current total thickness will increase tightness, I'd say increase the thickness by about 1mm, so add 1mm of shim or thereabouts. What I did in the video is exactly what I did and it lasted a long time, many drift events.
@@JoeYates77 thanks
Does this work for 350z vlsds ?
I'd imagine the principal will be the same. The part numbers for the shims might be different. However you could try replacing the oil if its been in there a while with some high quality VLSD oil to hopefully restore its binding/locking up abilities. Other than that, from what I gather alot of people who own them for drifting will weld the centre together. This depends essentially on what your needs are for the diff. Hope this helps somewhat. The Nissan Fast online catalogue might help in regard to the part numbers for the shims :)