Volkswagen 02M 6 speed mainshaft bearing shim install
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2013
- This video details the raw, uncut 4-and-some-odd minutes it took me to install a main shaft bearing shim in my R32. It should've taken less time but I thought using my new snap ring pliers would speed up the job.
Check out the VWVortex thread regarding the main shaft issues and this remedy, including parts and suggested tool list:
forums.vwvortex.com/showthread...
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Thank you for posting this fix, My VW sharan 1.9tdi had its clutch dragging causing the car to slowly creep (even though I had my foot on the clutch pedal!!), and once it went into reverse gear it would not come out of gear until the engine was stopped, also, it didn't like coming out of first gear when car was stationary. After adding this shim it now goes into and out of every gear without any problem, and the clutch isn't dragging anymore, BIG THANKS, Jim
bought the kit including new end cap for £20 Fitted and 1st gear selection is back to normal
BIG thanks
Thanks for this. Such an easy fix haha. Doing an R32 clutch and noticed this. Glad it's not very intrusive work.
Thanks for showing us this repair, thought I would have to remove the gearbox 😀
Very informative Jim .Wish id seen this video before. I can show it to my repair garage to avoid any confusion .After all these new clutch parts sticking first and reverse gear began again .
Did this nearly 2years ago.car still fine with no gear issues.just come back to thank jeff again for saving my ass out of 1grand.
you better send him some $$$'s 🙂
@@sollykhan2385 i sent him my duas😊
@@djshumon that's even better, BLESS
Thanks for the video. The numbers for the parts are:WHT-001-976 for the Shim and02M-301-211-B for Cover
Hallo
Kann man 2 ringe auch einbauen
Ich habe 1 verbaut, es ist alles soweit ok, dennoch merke ich bei schalten immer noch ein bisschen spiel
Danke
Grüsse
Sladdy
This resolved a reduction and shift whine I had in 5th thank you
Yes. It finished the squeal at engine brake in 5 th.
Did the same thing on a SEAT LEON 2.0 tdi 136cp, 3 years ago and no problem since then. Had 5th noisy.
Great information in this video repaired my 2.0 TDI Sport Touran in the U.K. Got the parts from the local SEAT dealer WHT-001-976 for the washer/shim was slightly translated to EWHT001976 at this dealer and 02M-301-211-B was E02M301211b for the black cap. Be careful knocking in the cap with a soft hammer as I slightly dented mine, this can be avoided by only hitting it around the rim. Believe it or not the shim and cover only cost £11.05 total including tax!
Dean Johnson what was the symptoms on your touran.as I have 5th gear whining .
@@sumonmiah3534 whining + stuck gear in 1st + R ....
Cheers for this. I understand why mine was getting stuck in first now
Thanks for the video. Aftermarket cover: FEBI 47167
Awesome tutorial video! Thank you very much for the upload!
Also, dat 1440p quality! lol
I’ve got winning sound in 5th on 6 speed box will this help me as see comments others it did but sure there had 6 speed or 5 thanks
hi. great vid. i have same problems with clutch/gears etc. do you know if this will work on a GRF gearbox. (2.0 gt tdi). iv had a look and it has the black cap so im hoping for some good news before i buy the parts. also do you know where i could get the parts from? thanks
Finally got the car back! Problem is solved!
@ Luke:
Yes its that simple. All you are doing is placing the shim between the bare aluminim case and snap ring so the slack is taken up.
The main idea is to limit, if not eliminate, any movement of that outer race which the snap ring goes over. This problem develops as a result of the main shaft bearing race spinning in that case half; consequently, it takes the snap ring with it and together they machine the case and produce that axial play and resultant shift + grind issues. if you've managed to get it all back together and its all very tight to the point where that race has .000 movement, consider yourself very privileged.
+Jeff Straker is it possible to stack two shims?
+Carlos Ordonez Well Carlos, I'm sure it's possible in some transmissions to stack 2 in there; there would have to be some insane wear on that case half to make that kind of gap. i would assume that if one found that kind of gap, enough to fit 2, there would likely be a single shim's worth of wear on the outer case/ "accessible side", and another shim's worth of wear on inner case where there is no access unless you drop the tranny and open it up. If you think about it, That bearing we are trying to "shim-up" into place has a similar shoulder on the inside of the case that sits against the wall opposite where the snap ring and shim are. although I never mentioned it at all in my post or this video, there is a little bit of wear coming from that shoulder spinning freely against that inner surface. Mind you, the shoulder is at least 4/5 times wider than the snap ring alone, so it has far less tendency to cut a groove like that in the inside case half.
Which brings me to this point, and hopefully gives the critics and cynics a second sober look at what this repair is:
This "quick fix" is a quick fix; it is extremely effective at reviving your non working and dangerous transmission in under 10 minutes and for less than $20. Obviously, The guy who pulls his transmission out, strips it down, and replaces: the worn case half, bearing, and applies some bearing race retention product is going about it the right wa
Not the most time and cost efficient way mind you, especially if you think about the max life one expects to gain overall from this repair. I can realistically see a modded transmission lasting over 150,000 miles before this specific problem resurfaces in the same way as the first time; by then the average driver will have gone through a second clutch kit and 2 more timing belts, as well as another 30-40 more oil changes. 10 minutes and 20$ is not such a bad way to put off a pesky problem whether its the "correct" way or not.
I have a gti mkv stage 1 unitronic it has about 200k miles and the clutch,turbo is origional. Only think i changed was timing belt kit. And i changed tranny fluid only once at 100k all i moded was motor mounts intake suspension unitronic tune. Amazing car. I just have to get this cap that covers the bearing cuz mine is corroded bubbly and leaking.
In-depth reply, I like it.
There isn't anything but good that can come out of doing this shim mod I'm guessing?
I've done it, no grinding, no gear issues seem to be happening. The play has gone down/eliminated to, let me be approximate, 0.0010-0.0020. So very hairline movement at the least.
@@jeffstraker2105 I had a problem with clutch in my vw passat b6 had its clutch dragging and the first gear and reverse gear would not come out until the engine was stopped. I add this shim and now problem is fixed. But i have a question just sometimes not always the cluth does not disengage perfectly. The clutch ,flywheel and the clutch pump is new
Would this fix the clunking noise I hear when I get off the gas. Definitely something in the drivetrain
Is it a case of jacking the car up. remove wheel and arch liner and it's there or do you need to undo engine mounts to lower it down?
To be sure...
is it remove cut o-ring, add shim, and replace o-ring removed in step one?
Would this apply to a 2016 passat. I have a decel whine and sticky 2nd gear.
the balls in the bearing in mine are not spaced out. does that mean it need replacing. where do I get the black cap from.
Not to worry I found the part number at vwvortex, this has, I hope, been helpful after fitting a clutch and dmf as well as a master cylinder and the problem still not fixed. I will post to let you know how it goes.
hi,
I have a similar play in my input shaft.
My car tends to creep with the clutch pedal fully pressed.
Did you have the same issue with this car and if so, was the problem fixed?
Mine is 6 speed 1.9tdi 130bhp Bora 2005.
Please let me know
Thanks
Sahil
This is for Octavia 2? Oil must out? Thank you.
@Jeff Straker or anybody.. Do you know what size shim or what part number I would need to do this to my Mk5 Golf GT-TDI 140 bkd. Gearbox code O2Q? Thanks in advance!!
Is it 2002 vw sharan 6 speed manual gearbox may have same issue?
If my bearing isn't spaced will that be a problem, and can i change the bearing without stripping the gearbox?
Where did you get the nifty picks you used on the snap ring?
Does this shim work in the 6speed manual transmission in 2012 gti? Transmission has the plastic cap. How much play does it take for it to fail?
Will this kit work on a 2006 Audi s3 2.0T 6speed manual transmission?
This may be a foolish question but does this cap require changing when doing a clutch change?
Hello,for vw sharan,FVA gearbox(6S),fits?
I went to vw for the shim and the sold me a kit with about 40 shims in, they were to small, where do I find this part or have you got a part number, Cheeres Jeff, great vid by the way.
I've got a 2012 Mk6 GTI that has recently had the infamous mainshaft bearing noise problem. I've been driving the car daily for a couple weeks after first hearing the noise, trying to keep away from 4th and 6th gears where it's most audible (was just about to perform the bearing washer repair tomorrow! what bad luck/timing), but all of a sudden today when shifting from 1st to 2nd the transmission made some terrible sound and now won't go into gear. Shortly before this happened, I had the car go through a lite touch wash; almost immediately after pulling away from the car wash, I heard a small knock sound, as if something may have broke.. it was faint enough where I didn't initially think much of it.. but then 2-3 min of driving later is when the transmission failed to go into 2nd gear from 1st (from standstill). Luckily I was very close to home, so I coasted into my driveway from there. It appears the shifter linkage works (can see the linkage moving when changing gears), but when pressing clutch in (engine running) and shifting into Reverse or 1st, it doesn't go into gear at all. Engine runs perfectly fine. Would the mainshaft bearing issue all of sudden have worsened to the point of failure?
hello there, I have same problem on my golf mk5 2.0TDI 6 gear but I don't know what are OEM numbers and where I can order these parts. Please if someone can help me. Thanks!
does this work and fit the octavia vrs petrol 2008
Would this work in a b5. 5 passat 6speed gearbag
hi mate thanks for the video have u got a part number for the shims? and where did u get them from thanks brian
Brian Charnock it's on ecs tuning
Can i do this for 2.0 tfsi audi a3? Or it's only for tdi?
Thanks you very much ill be sure to try this on my GLI. I put a southbend daily stage 2 and it has been sticking in 1st and reverse and creeps up. So damn annoying so hopefully this will help. Thanks again!
Did it fix it? Having the same issues
@@albertoarriaga2297 yes it did! I wrote about it on VWVortex 8 years ago.
Works on seat Altea xl freetrack 1400tsi 2011 6 gears manual transmission??? please someone answer
Hello! This video is a revelation.
However, i have the 2002 version of the 02M.
Do you know if the shim also fits on this box?
i have the same gearbox ... FMH ... 02M ...yes fits perfectly
Hi guys, where I can buy these shims?
Jeff, i hope you see this message for i was about to purchase a new(to me) O2M do to play in my input shaft. in my case the humming sound was more of a click when i bought the car a few weeks ago and turned into an all out "Knock.' Do you think that shimming the bearing(barring its in good condition) will fix the problem? Really hope for some insight before i spend a big chunk of change on something not needed.
Kyle Wolden:
It can't hurt to try fixing the problem most of us have found. I can't say for sure what your exact issue is without diagnosing it in person, too many variables. Worst case scenario you order 1 shim and 2 covers, use shim and cover #1 on your current tranny. If it doesn't fix it, take it out and put it in your potential replacement tranny with cover #2. Parts are cheap enough to try before buying a transmission and swapping it out.
Good luck, post results
2003 passat 1.9tdi 130bhp 6 speed manual is this compatible
Did you reuse the plastic cap?
Jeff did this remedy the issue? I just recently installed a Stage 2 Southbend clutch kit with a SMF. I am getting the infamous clutch creep.
Lazaro Carreiro this shim fix has taken care of many gearbox issues, from noisy decelleration to locked in gears and lockout of gears.very cheap and simple to do. check out the vw vortex link posted above.
Jeff Thank you. I purchased the shim and cover from Volkswagen and it rectified the issue. Great job!!
Recently, I'm having this similar grinding/rattling sound at 3rd gear deceleration. But mine is a dsg gearbox. Does this fix apply? Or it's for manual trans?
I have same symptoms but I have the 02m trans, some dude told me it was this main shaft shim so idk you can try. You could try joining a Facebook group for ur car and asking a question, good, useful communities.
This work with Audi a3 automatics 7 speed ??
Would this be a good fix for gearbox whine? I get it in 1st and little bit in second. Sounds like I'm in reverse sometimes!! :(
Hi, give us some feedback if you did fixed the 1st and 2nd whine. Thanks
reporting back.problem 5th gear whining gone no noise at all.i was about to spend £600.thank you jeff.
Sumon Miah glad to hear it!
Hi I’ve got Leon 6 speed my 5th gear has hummming sound was this same yours 6 speed box but this video fixed it ?
Si7uk S Do you mean have done this or not ?
Sumon Miah no I want no sort my problem
Sumon Miah my 5th gear just makes horrible sound so don’t use it just want no if do this will it sort it?
How hard is it to take out the bearing you can see in the video mine has fell apart and spray the cover off
Transmission has to come out, split the case, pull bearing and reassemble. Might as well reinforce the shift forks while you're at it and perform a more permanent fixture for that mainshaft bearing.
Jeff Straker thanks bud think I'm just going to put a recon box into it thanks for the reply though
Gracias por tu video...me puede decir medida para seat Alhambra 1.9tdi 115cv 2004.
Gracias
I did this but still have slight play on the shaft. Seems like I need a thicker washer?
That's odd. There is a shoulder on the inside edge of the bearing that buts up against the inside of the case, perhaps it has worn into the case over time. If that's happened it would appear as though it needs a second shim, which might draw the bearing and the main shaft to far out of spec. I'm looking into an alternative repair for that situation, there are a lot of aging gearboxes out there with this issue and some have more advanced issues than others. I like how this fix has worked and that it's cheap and quick. I'll figure something else out for those that need more.
Hello i have a 02q gearbox in my scirocco 2.0 140tdi i have a gearbox rattle when foots not on the clutch it rattles when peddle is fully to the floor the rattle ceases and is silent i just recently changed the gear oil to see if that fixes it and it hasnt but the old oil was clean no metal shavings could this be the cause?
Kyle Williams if you previously installed a light weight/aluminum flywheel and clutch recently, that is your cause of the gear rattle you're hearing. the shim fix will not cure that, it is a symptom of a light flywheel. check the link above for details.
***** no I just fitted a oem sachs dmf and clutch kit
Kyle Williams i have 02q I think this may be the problem too ? Wonder how much it will cost ?
Give it one more tap for good measure 🎉
@bsukoo: yes that is typically the first symptom. Instant fix in 99.9% of cases, follow the vw vortex link below for dozens of testimonials.
Thank Jeff,
I have order the part from my local dealer, it should be here by Wednesday.
I will also replace th slave cylinder since i have dropped the box.
Will post my results on here!
When you grab hold of the mainshaft and push/pull in and out of the case do you feel excessive freeplay? Upto 1/8 indicates some decent wear but beyond this 1/4 or so means that you absolutely need that washer and cap done. Do it on the bench while you have it all acessible.
Hi my 2004 seat alhambra 1.9 tdi 130 seems creep forward in 1st gear or reverse with my foot down on the clutch fully too the floor, sometimes the gear will get stuck untill i turn off the engine then i can put it in neutral.
The clutch biting point seems to be very close to the floor too.
Its had a new clutch and flywheel by previous owner about 20k ago.
Iv heard this may fix the problem!? What do you guys think.
Thanks
Absolutely. See below, check my VW vortex post in this for detailed description of the problem and dozens of testimonials.
Do you have to drop the gearbox or just a wheel off job?
@@bsukoo1 just wheel off job. Makes it easier to remove the plastic cowling in the wheel arch too.
Hi Kevin, some years ago, I had to make this for a Seat Leon, 5th was whinning. Now I have my parents Alhambra, having the same sympthoms as yours, did you resolved the stucked reverse and 1st gear? Thanks.
@@jeffstraker2105 hi I was just wondering if the part number given in comments will fit my mk4 golf 6speed 52plate ?? Thanks in advance
Hi pal,
I've ordered this kit over the counter though Vw looked at me like i was nuts ! Lol. I got the part nums off a forum. I take it you put the original clip back in too ? I've gone too a single mass on my bora, and I get gear locking intermittent problem . Supplier told me this will cure it, and worth a shot for 10 quid in parts .. Where did you get your kit from ? Did VW engineer this part to cure the problem ? Cheers
I have deceleration noise while I'm in 3rd gear ? While I'm.on the gas there is no noise.
Would this be the fix? Sounds like 3rd isn't fully engaged and you can hear some metal rubbing sound, not really grinding id say but only in 3rd
yup, sounds like the start of it.
did you sort out your problem?
Sumon Miah I got the shim and cover will be putting it in , in the next couple days . I'll post what the outcome is !
Josh Rodrigues I bought a 2006 touran 2.0tdi rare spec at a really good price not long ago and discovered it had 5th gear whine.was getting silly qoutes by professionals.then saw this video and thought ill try it at a friends garage.he didn't know what I was saying till he took that cover off.then he couldn't spot the circular clip which made me shit my pants so I had to see for my self and saw the slit in the clip and installed everything then he knew what I was on about and learned something new.hes a good mechanic dont get me wrong.i have no sounds at all.you dont need to drain the transmission oil as the cap is higher then the oil refill cap.also when removing the cap it will have a little oil on.have a look at the condition of the oil.
Hy, hope you will help me with something, i just have changed the clutch with all the parts, pressure bearing, pressure plate, flywheel, clutch disc, and the clutch pump (the clutch pump was changed to solve the problem, but it wasn't from there), after that a problem it appeared. Now sometimes i can't get out of speed 1 and R, i mean, i don't have any other problems with the rest of the speeds.. My clutch pedal it's slack, the air from the installation was removed 3-4 times (different periods). I saw the problem it's show when the engine getting warm. It's embarrassing, cause i can't park the car normally, cause it remains blocked in R speed even if i have the clutch pedal completely down. The problem manifests itself in the following way: i press the clutch pedal for example, i put the lever in R speed, i try to release the clutch pedal slowly and when i feel the gearbox has engaged, i press the pedal again to the ground, but the gearbox it's stay engaged in R speed and i can't get it off, i can release from R to neutral just if i stop the engine.. I hope I made myself clear...
Your solution is in this vidéo same as me
Hey this work for Volkswagen CC 2010 manual Transmision 6 speed Please I need help
No thats a later gearbox and should have this problem solved from factory.
So does this work on 02Qs?
Konstantin Sytch my o2q is kaputt too leaking oil the whole lot wonder how much it will cost ?
On early ones yes, the shim was added around 2007-2008
Thank you Jeff! Worked perfectly for my Skoda Octavia. Repair parts 19€ vs repaired transmission 1400€.
Here's before and after videos of my transmission. th-cam.com/video/MUn9fWk_q10/w-d-xo.html
Iv done this onces and it worked but started agen do u think id get away with another shim
ryanthethumb did you have to drop the gearbox or just a wheel off job?
@@bsukoo1 just wheel off its easy to do just be carefull when u take the cap off and when you put new one on
@@bsukoo1 did you have the problem fixed.i did mines 7k miles ago still fine no problem.
Had a quote of £700 to rebuild my gearbox . I had a whine in 3rd . Done this and da da . Whine gone . Very cheap fix ( seat Leon MK1 cupra)
What kinda of MK1 cupra? 1.9 TDI? I have the same problem but in the 5th gear.
@@abcd-is8lv 1.8t petrol . Miss that car so much 😭😞
Can I get this from the dealership?
Yes both parts are available from the dealership, also I understand ECS Tuning has a kit.
I am doing this tomorrow on a 2006 touran 2.0 tdi to resolve 5th gear whinning.I will report back once the job is done.
djshumon did it fix your 5th gear problem? Here’s
+Si7uk S sorry late reply.yes it did.
Lmao very late haha.
I have whining on 2/3/4 and slightly on 5/6.
Will this help on my TT 2003? 02M box
+Asad Parker most likely no harm in trying.
I done it and it works EXCELLENTLY!
Hi thanks for posting . I have seat leon mk1 cupra r with deaccel whine . Hoping this will sort it .can this be done with gearbox on the car as i havr peeled away the plastics and am able to get acsess to this cap to install the shim . Will gearbox oil come out if i pry it off ?thanks again .
you might see a little oil come out, but if your gear oil is at the proper level you shouldn't be opening the tranny up enough to get down to fluid level.
***** i went to install today . There was play but not massive amounts. After puttin shim in and cerclip on it was tight , the circlip didnt want to snap in . I finally got it to find its home with a bit of force but the circlip wouldnt spin freely .im thinkin that probably not a good idea to leave it like this . So tryed gettin the circlip back out.because it was tight i ended up bending the circlip . Now need a new one . Any idea on the part number or proper name for it . Thanks again
+Petrez w i have found the part number for the c-clip if anyone ends up bending it
0A5 311 183
im not 100% wether its ok fitting the shim if the c-clip is tight (not snapping back in + no movement on shaft when fitted ), any advice would be appreciated
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