02M 6 Speed Gearbox Shim Whining Fix - VW / Audi / SEAT / Skoda
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ม.ค. 2018
- The 6 six speed gearboxes in VWs Mk4 Golf, Audi, SEAT, Skoda, (petrol & diesel) tend to develop a whining sound on deceleration as well as sticking on gear shifts. A simple 02M shim mod repair can eliminate excessive play in the mainshaft and all related symptoms.
Part Numbers: Shim - WHT-001-976 Cover - O2M-301-211-B - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thank you my friend - I've just completed this "fix" on my 1.9tdi Alhambra: £16 total parts ordered from the local VW dealer & as couple of hours effort - mainly taken up with working out how to get the spring clip out . . . ultimately with a pair of jewellers screwdrivers! Changed the gearbox oil too (£54) whilst I was underneath and getting dirty! Brilliant result & ready to go on for another 188,000 miles!
This video has made my day! I was thinking I needed a new gearbox. Cheers and subscribed. :)
carl daley really glad it helped, thanks for commenting and subscribing there is a lot more coming up!
OMG! Thanks so much for this video, complete life saver.
Just don’t this to my Leon Cupra and stunned at the difference just a washer can make. No more noise whatsoever ever.
Stunned!
Great tip and easy to do, retaining ring was a little fiddly to get out but once our job was done in a matter of seconds.
Top fella, well chuffed.
Really glad this helped you, thanks for taking the comment to comment.
Redline Revs does it solve whine problem on skoda yéti 6 speed manual transmission ?
I don't know if you see still active here but thank you so much for making this vid. I bought a spares and repairs Cupra R 3 weeks ago and with a lot of work I managed to keep her on the road. Probably the most expensive thing that could've break it for me was the gearbox. And now from £20 it's all sorted. Thank you so much again!!
You're welcome bro thank you commenting and well done restoring one and keeping to keep it on the road. There will be more stuff coming on the channel soon enough. 👊🏾
@@RedlineRevs Yes THank you! i tried this when my 5th gear was making a sound on deceleration, and it worked! thank you!
A massive thank you for the vid - this has just saved me from the thought of replacing the gearbox on a TT I just purchased. Prev owner has been driving it 6 years with a noise on overrun and sold it because it was so bad (it really was!). Thanks so much
This should be the fix, thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@RedlineRevs absolutely, the problem is now gone - drives superbly without any noise. Incredible. Thanks again
Hi Ross, what gearbox does/did your TT have?
I just got a 2004 Jetta gli that's been sitting for 3 years, figured the sound was from sitting for so long but glad I looked this up. Gonna definitely be taking care of this
Hi bud, done my mod, whining has gone and no sticking, so far so good, but i have got 5th gear back, it used to make a terrible noise going in, now its sweet. Just wanted to say thank you for keeping my leon 1.9tdi running 💪👍
Bro thanks for taking the time to comment really glad it helped you. I used to have the 1.9tdi that was first time I had to do Shim mod, simple little fix. Wish you many more miles of happy and safe driving.
Brilliant vid, just done it on my mk1 TT, bit fiddly but what a difference, you are an absolute star, 👍
Got a touran few months back in immaculate condition black sports winter pack 17 inch alloys spoiler etc for really good price only to discover this fault . similar video saved me a lot of head ache and money.
ABSOLUTE LEGEND. 11 dollar fix for me. for years i've had this whine in my 04 GTI vr6. This fixed every whine, drift, clunky shift. several techs told me i need a new gearbox. wild.
So glad it saved you dollars bro. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
I love your channel and thanks for helping us out. You deserve a 🌟
Finally !!!!! Someone describes my noise AND provides a fix !!!
Fantastic fix for that whining noise I had on my mk4 Golf 1.8t AUQ 6 speed engine. Thank you so much!
Glad it worked for you bro, thanks for taking the time to comment.
Redline Revs it’s an Interesting fix, I bet not so long ago some garages would charge for a new gearbox but just place this new part, as it does make a huge difference. How did you find this fix?
@@seanlyons161 I know for a fact some garages were adding this and charging for replaced / recon gearbox... The fix had been known amongst owner community for a long time I actually did it on my 1.9tdi with 6 speed box years ago but file was corrupted so never uploaded back then.
Hi can you tell me where you get these parts from please cupra r mk1 225 1.8t many thanks
Top man.. These cupra r videos are spot on. All the problems arising from a car of this age all covered. One more sub my friend... :)
greck999 thank you so much for your kind words and support!
Awesome video I've just carried out this work after following your video on my vehicle SEAT Alhambra 7M 2.0 TDI 140 6 speed manual gearbox. Couldn't have done it without this video really helped me out and save me hundreds of pounds.
In my case the plug cap had become corroded meaning fluid was slowly leaking from the gearbox (fixed by installing new plug seal), also I was having problems selecting reverse and first gear which was down to the excessive play in the bearing. ( Fixed by installing shim). I realized this issue would be fixed by installing the shim after watching this video to fix the initial problem with the leaking seal cap.
Remember that if you need to install the shim you have to replace seal cap also, as when you take off the old one it gets damaged and you cannot use it again. So buy the shim and the seal cap as a pair
Hi. Where did You get it from? What year is your car ? Im looking for this part for my 2011 2.0tdi 6 speed Tiguan
Thank you so much for sharing this I’ll be ordering this and crossing my fingers!! lol
Hope it helped!
Thanks for the content. waiting on the shim, looking forward to getting rid of the 3rd gear whine.
Good luck!
Nice video dude, cool that you're from Bristol, also having to look around for parts after David Hawthorne left haha!
SheppyHJ thanks for taking the time to comment! I'm actually from London but ordered this stuff from Bristol. Yeah I think he works at TPS now.
Well done! I saw this video and another one that greatly helped get my shim installed! It's cured quite a few issues as far as I can can tell with clutch creep, etc.! My mechanics were telling me I needed an entire new clutch / flywheel after just upgrading to a Stage 2+ with 20lb flywheel a little over a year ago. So far so good after a few days of using this shim. Thanks
Bruv I'm so glad the shim worked for you. Sounds like you have a bit of a beast there...
Me too @@RedlineRevs!!! It's been shifting and working great again. Can get my power back to the ground more efficiently now! Best fix ever!
BOOSTEDDUDE did you find it difficult engaging first or reverse whilst stationary? That’s the issue I’m having
BOOSTEDDUDE I fitted a stage 2 clutch kit flywheel slave cylinder and master cylinder and now my car is hard going into gear,it’s as if the pressure plate isn’t fully opening. O2m gearbox aswell
very good video man ! greetings from germany
This is so common on the León Tdi Arl, the gearbox code FMH, as always Good Job bro keep doing this videos
Yeah it is very common on those I had to do this on my ARL as well. Thanks for your continued support bro, more to come over the course of 2018.
Redline Revs And Happy New year to you :)
Aleix Rivera same to you bro
Cheers for that, looks very easy to do and yes that is the fix I need :)
Thank mate I had problems with first and reverse gear hard to select or sometime would not come out and creeping forward with clutch fully Down replaced shim all fine now thanks very much saved me taking box off
Did this fix it for you? Im having this trouble now not going in or out of gear and creeping forwards😬😬
Thank you for this video you are great person,, i put one ring of the d15b7 in my gearbox substituting the oem ring,work excellent
Glad it helped, thanks for taking the time to comment.
Hi, you probably won't see this, but you say you had an oem ring already installed? I tried to fit today but the play wasn't enough to fit the new ring and circlip over the top again. I now wonder if there was an oem ring that I didn't notice
Done this a few weeks back . Had a 3rd gear whine . Worked a treat . Feels like a new gearbox . Nice and tight just how I like it 😉
Glad to hear that bro, that's how we all like it!
i got 3rg gear whine on full acceleration, do you think this will solve the problem?
@@SvabaGeneral there is a very good chance it will sort it out. It's worth a go anyways. Cheap enough tbh .
@@SvabaGeneraldid you? How did it go?
still have the car? still working fine?
Thank you so much for the effort of making this Video. I managed to fix this by installing the shim + replacing cap and the thick bearing bearing securing ring. Part WHT001976 (0,65mm shim) + replacement 0A5311183(securing ring because most probably old one got weared) and 02M301211B (replacement cap ) BUT BE CAREFULL: after i installed the 0,65mm shim I still had some play, could have fitted a thicher one, so instead of WHT001976 you could get the full set with different thickness part: 02B498210 and fit the proper one depending on your level of play. Thanks again!!!
Hi mate - I did this 6,000 miles ago - but the issue’s come back (clutch pedal gets a bit stuck down, and has crept along when the pedal was fully down). I had a look yesterday and can’t quite get another shim in, so need a thinner one. Does the full shim kit haven’t different thicknesses? Many thanks.
@@spencergold1279 Yes Spencer, the kit has many sizes, from 0.6 up to 2mm i recall, you can find the exact numbers on some sites
Alexandru Caldararu thanks very much. I found some differential shim kits - but they’re a smaller diameter - so won’t fit the end of the input shaft which is accessible under the plastic cap... will have a hunt around.
Yeah £80 for a full set seems a bit of a waste
i've got 3 x 0.65 shims sent by darkside and i managed to fit 2 of them in and it was a very tight fit once done there was 0 play as a result.
Hi,
This is exactly what I have in my Golf MK4 6 speed.
in the 3rd gear when I take my foot off the gas pedal I hear like a bearing whining, and only on third.
I was thinking about a bearing going bad inside the transmission.
but you showed me the symptome right there.
thank you very much, you saved my Golf.
thumbs up.
Thank you for the video!!
If this works it will be a good days work superb video
Got one of these for my 2005 1.9 tdi Seat Alhambra from BSF 👍
Sick mate, wish I knew about this last year, already forked out the 600. Even better still, think the fork selector went on me today. 1st and 2nd gear gone!
That's unlucky, this probably would have saved you that £600!
Top lad!
I installed this mod onto my Audi TT MK1 (02M FZP Gearbox) yesterday.
All gear whine miraculously gone from 1-4 and it's smooth to shift now! No crunches, no difficult gear changes.
I want to thank you for this video as it definitely helped me doing this on my own, this is a REALLY EASY AND RECOMMENDED mod if you have gear whining hands down.
It's amazing how such a washer can make all that difference.
Are there any downsides to this mod, or is it nothing but beneficial to the gearbox.
This is a top video 100%
Is there a similar fix for the 6 speed box fitted to a C5 A6 with an inline engine?
Hi, will this help cure a new issue I have with each gear needing a little bit of force or get into gear. I have a 6 speed golf tdi 150.
You my friend are a bloody gem!! My R has developed the exact noise (great impression of the sound btw haha) 1st and 3rd are the most noticeable but I'm pretty sure it's there in all gears slightly. My only worry is that the car had a box rebuild back in 2011 and I'm guessing that they did this shim mod when they rebuilt it? However, I'm willing to spend £20 to see if it fixes it before I source another gearbox.
scastle90 thanks for your support. worth checking it could just be this it's completely stopped the sound for me.
Very nice vid. Does this apply for the DSG and multitronic gearboxes of Audi?? Thank you.
HA! i have noticed mine starting to stick a bit plus a bit of a whine, not too bad, but it wasn't there before. I shall order this part cheers man.
Grim wriggler glad to help with that gearbox has a lot of life left if you get this shim in soon.
What mileage ?
Is this the same for mk1 seat leon? Mines a 5 speed, any help would be much appreciated
great video
I'm having the same problem with my vw polo 9n 1.4 tdi but i don't know if it same
Hi I have got Skoda Octavia 2015 6 speed , mines very sticky in 2ed gear specially when the car is cold as soon as warm up it’s improve a lot any idea please I appreciate thanks for any respond
We need to replace the whole bearing. Do you know if you have to drop the entire transmission or just the case cover for it to get it out?
Hi, what is this part called, how would i describe it to TPS?
Hi, do u remember if the severity of the noise changed when steering left to right?
Is this applicable to the 02J 5 speed boxes?
Hello my friend.
I have a Audi A3 8v 1.6tdi 2015, 6 gear and the gear box does that sound. Do you know if that part is compatible with my car? Thank you
Would this work on a 2001 A3 1.8T Quattro ? Slight wine in 1st and gears a bit stiff when going through them, regards steve
I have a lion Fr 150hp diesel, that ring that installs, I think reference Wht001976 is of a single thickness or there are different thickness. I understand that depending on the clearance, any thickness would not be adequate, right?
Does the circlip have to sit do far back it touches the Shim? I have a groove at the lip of the gearbox where the circlip naturally wants to sit but it then stops the cap from going back on
This man brought two pairs of tweezers to pull a snap ring. I'm dying. 🤣
Hello my Skoda fabia vrs make a noise when your on idle at rev 1k t0 2k it starts juddering when you let you foot of the gass
Thanks for uploading.
I got my shims n cap off DarksideDev, came with 3 shims just case you got really bad play and don't forget if you can get em circlip/snap ring pliers makes getting the ring out easier.
So what I did first was check the play in the shaft and yes there was play so stuck in the 2 out of the 3 shims to see what I needed to use but I found I couldn't fit in the circlip on top of the 2 shims to lock it as of course that circlip also acts as a shim so really only need 1 shim plus the circlip.
With the circlip now back in with 1 shim the play in the shaft was pretty much gone also the new plastic cover you hammer back on is also going to apply a resistance against the play.
Very well Done 👍
Good concise video
Get a pair of circlip pliers & should clean area first & wipe cap seal area with clean dry cloth b4 fitting new cap
If you have an automatic link that pays you for sending people to a tool company you might want to find a circlip plier set that has 3 removable heads for making this job & others easier & quicker
It benefits you & the many people who watch your vid & think may try this but put off by circlip faff.
Take this as a compliment from an engineer who's been fixing things for 50+ years 👍
What size shim did you order from darkside
@dylanhayes984
Hello, I checked my order, as below.
SKU: DSD1810
79.35mm
Can I replace this oring in its 1.8t 4x4? Do I have to undress the gearbox?
Hi , I have a 2013 Skoda superb 2.0 TDI ,with the gearbox code 02Q, I have a few whining noises I'm trying to fix. Can the plastic cover be removed and the shaft checked for play ? And if none found the original cover be replaced ,or would I need to replace cover with a new one ? Great video BTW. Cheers b
Fitted this on my MKV GTi because the clutch was sticking intermittently and it felt as though there was minimal back pressure whilst changing gears.
This has completely fixed it. Thanks very much!
i already have the washer but the axle still plays in/out.i try two washers but not fit.the new washer is 0.5mm and the old one 0.4mm.what u suggest? s3 tfsi 550nm
any idea where to install this on a Passat 03 6 speed? There I nothing like yours behind the passenger side wheel, guessing the gearbox is mounted differently on the Passat. Have the same whine as you described when deaccelerating and hard to get into 1/2/3 when cold, a lot easier when warm but downshift to 2nd from 3rd always hard to get in.
just got a golf mk 5 as a toy and replaced dmf and clutch, noticed got a gearbox whine when off the throttle will this fix it? its a 1.9tdi 6 speed 56 plate donkey
Hi, i nave some noise, but on 5th gear, can you give number of spare part to find?
so I’ve got a Skoda fabia vrs 2006, was on motorway came and seemed to be stuck in 6th then found it tough 1st-2nd gear then the squealing started for about 3 mins when in 3rd then gears because a lot easier to get, but also noticed oil coming from box so if I fit one of these o rings could this solve the issue?
I drive a 1.6 TDi vw passat from 2018 6 speed manual gearbox which has some problems with sticking on gear shifts, Will this solution be something I can use on my car or is it only on older models ?
My car (130pd bora) is very hard to get into gear an wont drive at all when I select neutral and lift of th pedal it stalls will this mod fix all this?
Hiya I think this will help me, but I have a whining noise from 1st and slightly from 2nd gear when driving off will this part help? Also what is the part no pls
Thanks. Do you know, is that the rear main shaft bearing that is visible there and can it also be replaced at the same time? thx.
Hello, is it still good after 2 years? Thanks a lot
Getting this whirring noise when deceleration on my Audi TT V6 s tronic will this work on automatic or only manual cars?
Is there a different sound on road ? noise goes off ? I have the same problem : big noise on 5°gear.
I have a noise in 5th gear but goes away when clutch pressed down. And when I accelerate it goes. Will that be this Octavia MK2 2.0tdi 2007
My vw bkd is whining only in 5th when letting it decelerate could this be the problem it only dose it in 5th when letting of the throttle all other gears are fine
Iv done this once and it worked but its came bk now do u think id get away with another shim
Hey guys :), i have a weird issue aswell with my markV Gti,the 6 speed gearbox pedal doesnt allways come back to its original position,and often i find gears hard,it feels like a slipping clutch but its new tho,i wonder if i take the cap and if theres a slack,i need shim kit?. its a 2006 GTI with stage 1+
Can the bearing itself be removed and replaced? Broke my bearing yesterday. Any help !?
Will this work for a 2006 A3 2.0t? I am having the same issue
I'm doing this tomorrow hope i get an answer before tomorrow what happens to the old shim please
What car is on the dezcription and the engine please
Hi does this work on a mk5 golf tdi box the gearbox code is hdu
Hey bud, do you have a link for this part please. Use your videos a lot for my Mk1 1.9tdi PD150. cheers in advance
my box is a cap with circlip on outside does that have same problem
Ordering one tomorrow. Even the few I know who are knowledgable with vag cars know haven’t mentioned this trick! Hope it works on my 1.9 tdi BKC 6 speed with 170k miles on. Will update
Just did mine today in my 2005.5 MK4 GLI, night and day doesn't cover it. It's not even the same car. I hope you have the same results, update us!
midorialexandros still haven’t done it 😁 I can’t actually the drive car until 23rd June. I’m gonna get a weeks driving without the shim then install it to really see the difference. Good to hear it worked though
Where do you order the parts, i cant seem to find them online. thanks
Hey man. Hope you can answer me. I have just been to view a Fabia VRS 1.9tdi 130. It's having real trouble selecting 1st gear. The seller told me a shim kit would sort it. Is he right in what he is saying?
i have knoking noice on mine but its 5 speed and i can hear it only when the clutch is realised
Hello when i removed the shim my bearing i broked Can i replace it ?
Well I never knew about this 😊
I've had to do it on two of my own cars!
Hello! I try this tomorrow. When i let go my clutch i hear litle knocking. 3 gear i hear rattles when i use him and somtimes 4 gear.
Good day, im curious about what that whine sounds like. Any ways why did the gearbox came without that shim in first place?
You're a fucking saint. Just completed this job on my 2005 GLI 6speed. You really undersold how much of a difference this makes. I was getting some sticking going from reverse to first gear, and some sloppy shifts from 2nd to 3rd. I ALWAYS heard a pretty noisy "clunk" when pushing the clutch in, something I assumed was normal. Gone. All of it. Smooth as butter, you can't even hear or feel when the clutch is pressed in now. Not the same car. Feels like I just dropped a brand new gear box into it. Makes me wonder how many people had work done to their gear box that didn't need it, or how many failed prematurely. You'd think VW would have put out a bulletin about this. Anyway, thank you again. xoxo
I have pretty much these same symptoms, but I bought the shim and attempted to install today, and while there is some play there, it isn't enough to get the circlip properly back over the top of it. So I had to put it all back together with the new lid - makes me wonder what else could be causing these issues, I've had a new clutch and dual mass flywheel.
@@humanbean899 It's supposed to be a very tight fit, that's how it's supposed to be, so there is no play. There shouldn't be any play at all. I suggest getting another cap and taking it apart again.
is it still good?
would the whine happen on acceleration too? would this fix it
Could i use it for my seat leon cupra 1m (2004) 1.9tdi 150ps?
Could this be the issue with 5th gear whining? 1,2,3,4 and 6th are fine
My friend can you tell me if i do what you show on the video my car stop having this sound?it hears like a noisy bearing... But its not a bearing.i have seat Altea xl freetrack 2011 1400 tsi.please answer me.thank you. 6 gears manual transmission forgot to say
Is this for dsg? I’ve been getting a similar sound on decel in 2nd/3rd gear but I’m dsg
Will this work in -08 2,5TDI Transporter 4Motion? Gearbox code kck.
only whining or clutch related problems to?
I have 2.2mm... I use shim. This is safe? Gearbox now working good.
Hi guys should this work on my 2012 VW T5 with 6 speed box?
I have a Mk5 Tdi Golf 5 spped changed the Transmission oil with Redline for car and the Gearbox started to whine! do you know if the 5 Speed box has a similar set up, Great upload buy the way.
Hi will this work on a Audi TT Tdi Quattro?
Thanks for taking time out of your daily schedule to record stuff like this for us to benefit from absolutely free of charge. My cupra 1.8t 2004 seems to have a big plastic cover covering the whole thing so I can't see what's behind it, looked for ways to remove it seems impossible without bumper off? You don't seem to have that issue.
My brother thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to share your supportive words. My TDI had the same plastic cover, I ripped it off and threw it away, didn't even reassemble it, and never looked back.
You should be able to remove that plastic sheet w/ bumper still on- although mine was just hanging on so it came off easy.
Smashing chap for that rapid reply, what a legend. The weather is rather ugly at the moment, I will get a proper look at it when my shim and cap gets delivered tomorrow, attempted to contact the guys mentioned on your video and apparently they have had so many people asking about it based on your video(influenced a lot of people to go DYI prompts to you) that they are out of stock and do not know when they will receive more. I ordered directly from dealer both parts £15 which isn't tragic by a long throw if it fixes the absolutely PITA whining sound coming from the box during deceleration mostly noticeable in 3rd but is there throughout the gears just far quieter. Thanks boss, will keep updated on the outcome likely tomorrow, at the same time fitting new PCV pipes ordered from fleebay as keeping the car bog standard except for map (easier resale :wink:).
Hi again fella. Had all my parts today, removed the cover(i mean ripped it off completely as all fixings were shot anyway) and for the life of me the clip wouldn't go back in after fitting the shim, if I forced the clip it went in but so tight that the ring and internals would no longer spin. Can I assume that I haven't got quite that much play yet hence being unable to install the shim? Cheers
@@RedlineRevs hey buddy, attempted it again with a bit more spare time as the car is off road atm, for the life of me can not get the clip to sit properly, I can force it in the grooves but its such a tight fit that the mechanism is very hard to spin and getting the clip back out is fkin cancer. Do I not yet have enough play or can it actually be driven with the shim being so damn tight? Would appreciate any input plz thanks