Palpatine to Anakin: -Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your wife. Vader to Luke: -Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends.
I love the choreography here. Once Vader mentions his sister, Luke isn't even fighting like a Jedi anymore. He's just swinging that lightsaber like a madman.
I watch this scene over and over. The raw emotion and that musical score combined with Luke's savage lightsaber swings is just amazing. It's the most memorable scene in the franchise for me.
everything in the OT was building to this conflict and it was Luke's failure here that put the story at the extreme low point. Here he effectively falls to the dark side and backslides everything he has learned in the last two movies. Remember Luke's primary Arc is learning to control his feelings- here he fails and falls to the dark side. Only by giving up and accepting a presumed death at the hands of the Emperor does he complete his training.
@@internetwanderer9053 No, bullshit was a subtle little thing you really had to think about before at best. Then the prequels came out and bullshit was the whole damn thing you were watching. Then Disney Star Wars became bullshit incarnate, then smeared itself all over your face as it danced on the castrated remains of what once was Star Wars. Your Hope's and dreams dashed away faster than Alderaan was blown to bits.
Luke springs at him, not so much with Jedi skills, but with sheer brute fury. And the music underscores the pain and sadness of this scene. A brilliant moment by Lucas and John Williams.
@@zaynzayn8206 This scene is perfect logic. He was using the dark side and had the chance to kill Vader. Unlike Anikan, he thought of what he was doing and denied the Dark Side.
I love how Vader literally GASPS when he realizes Luke is right behind him. It’s so weird seeing an “Oh SHIT” moment coming from him, but it’s also pretty great, honestly
@@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 his suit apparently had awful hearing aids which made it next to impossible for him to tell which direction sounds came from
He's probably thinking: First Obi-Wan, then Ahsoka and now my own son is going to split my wig to the white meat. The former two do exactly that, sliced his helmet open
this was one of the most infamous lightsaber duels to me. once Darth Vader had threatened him with his sister, he didn't give a shit weather Vader was his father or not, he just wanted to kill him. like, it came so unexpectedly, so suddenly, you just didn't anticipate it.
I don't think luke was trying to kill, because even when he did open vader up, he specifically went for the hand even though straight down would be instant kill. And he targeted vader's saber more than once. I think he was just venting
Can we just talk about the fact that this movie came out in 1983 and still looks phenomenal by modern standards? What they did back then was nothing short of magic.
When I see the lightsabers, or hear the sound effects, the way they shot the starships and their designs, the space battles, I said ILM team was ahead of it's time, maybe some things look dated now, which is justified knowing the years that these movies have, and maybe that explain some changes made in the special editions (not all of them aged very well), but really the Star Wars original trilogy is still pretty amazing to watch today, as modern pieces of filmmaking.
It's crazy how this is genuinely one of the best lightsaber duels ever, even when compared to most of the modern movies. The choreography not only shows off such an intense and believable fight, but carries so much emotion and detail with it. Such an amazing scene.
@@kgunitkeese17 tbf he is about 42 years old here. He is out of his prime and is conflicted about hurting his son. So give him a break on losing. He,(the greatest jedi killer in the galaxy) probably could have beat luke, who was still an inexperienced jedi, if his pussy side(anakin) didn't interfere .
I love how absolutely terrified Vader is of Luke in that moment. The way he keeps losing ground and can't keep up with how sporadic Luke's swinging is. Seeing such a terrifying villain being the one who's scared is the ultimate satisfaction.
At this point Vader was losing his grip on Anikan; they both were tired of the hate and self loathing, and the whole reason for Vader existing was shattered when he found out his son survived. He's been battling for control ever since. It's almost as if he's convincing himself more than Luke here, it's amazing story telling
This has to be the very moment where Vader feels fear and sadness, the fear of his own son beating him and the sadness that his own son is fighting him.
+eric hartman Can confirm. Saw TFA tonight and frankly I'm more disappointed than I thought I would be. Not a single moment gave me goosebumps, and the score of the film simply lacked the raw power of moments like this.
You can see from a cinematography standpoint as Luke is standing there, listening to his father. The darkness and shadows are almost enveloping his face. His fear, rage, and sorrow of fighting his father and wanting to save his friends, darkens his soul, and you see it visually. 75% of his face covered in shadow. The moment Vader mentions that he'll turn his daughter, Luke's face is almost complete darkness. That is story telling through cinematography. Showing us, the audience how CLOSE Luke was to the dark side.
So much passion in that fight. I like to imagine that the reason Vader isn't doing any of his fancy spinning lightsaber tricks are because Luke is dealing such passionate heavy blows he's afraid to let his guard down. So he just holds his lightsaber in front of him in a defensive position.
@@bluepearl_22 I'm not protecting anything. I genuinely like this fight. Sorry you feel the need to rip on other people's likes and dislikes, it's really not going to change my opinion. Maybe you'd be more useful doing something productive :)
The way I look at this scene is not that vader was afraid, or even bested by Luke. Vader simply did not want to hurt or kill his son, this is the conflict within him Luke was talking about. Vader only wished to turn him to the darkside, if Luke killed him so be it, Vader only cared for his son, not himself. But Luke refused to be turned, and in doing so, forced Vader to choose, he chose his son. But Vader wasn't really even trying to fight his son, he was ready to die
It's an actual move in real fencing -- you basically hammer at the opponent's blade to weaken their grip via transferred vibration until they eventually either drop the blade or slip up their defense. The styles in the original trilogy are much closer to fencing/longsword than the flashy wuxia-inspired fighting of the prequels. CGI not requiring characters to have actual weight also allowed for some flashy moves that weren't possible otherwise.
I've always loved the differences between ESB and RotJ fights between Luke and Vader. In ESB, Luke is still immature, young and has a dogmatic view of right and wrong. He rejects Vader's offer to join the Dark Side almost immediately. In RotJ, the temptation is much more real. Luke understands the dualistic and subtle nature of life more, and has matured as a Jedi apprentice. The Dark Side seems more inviting now - he can use it to save his friends and end the war. He sympathizes with his father more, and realizes that good and bad are just ideas bringing him to the brink of giving in. Finally he fully gives into his hate and rage when Vader mentions turning Leia. It's amazing that Luke resisted succumbing to the Dark Side, even after comparing his hand to Vader's freshly cut stump.
Luke was trying to bring his father back to the Light, as he sensed the conflict within his father. But when Vader taunted Luke about his sister Leia, Luke gave into his emotions and unwittingly tunnel-visioned to the Dark Side until calming down and realizing he was going down the same path of his father.
I like how Luke is barely paying attention to where he's swinging in the first few moments, then the moment he makes contact with Anakin he regains some composure. Really amplifies how angered he is
The music... Then finding out it was not on our vinyl back in 83...a long wait until it came out on that spectacular CD box set, one of my very favourite cues.
This is by far my favorite scene in all of Star Wars. The way the music swells as Luke pushes Vader back never fails to give me chills! We're watching the most powerful man in the galaxy finally meet his match. And as it becomes apparent that Luke is the inevitable victor of their duel the music shifts from heroic to foreboding. The Emperor's theme sneaks in as Luke is tempted to give in to his hatred, then fades as he regains his composure. Brilliant work Mr. Williams, Mr. Hamill, and Mr. Lucas. Bravo.
I used to 'dislike' (hate is too strong a word) ROTJ because of the darned Ewoks but by golly, I have begun remembering Luke as a full fledged Jedi night dealing with Jabba and is army of scum and here as he defeats his father and suddenly realizes who and what he is. Awesome stuff.
It's also obvious that Vader is holding back like Luke said he would. He never goes full power against his son. Some part of him remains Anakin. "I feel the good in you. The conflict"
Even if he did turn to the dark side, why would he join the emperor? never made any sense. After killing Vader he would just try to kill the emperor too.
the shot when there fighting under the stairs and all you see is their silhouettes and there light sabers....combined with the music gives me chills every time
You can see so much resemblance to Anakin form Luke here. It’s the same pattern - Anakin was scared of losing the one she loves most (Padme) so he got angry. And Luke is scared of losing the one he loves most (his sister) is he gets angry. Like father like son.
That was pretty much the plot of the entire trilogy, obiwan and Yoda saw they were basically the same person almost, very similar, they were afraid from the beginning he would make the same mistake
"Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me" the series makes this quote even more true. The way he keeps her presence hidden in episode 3 especially when they encounter each other
I don’t know how the series adds to that at all, it was already a true statement because of RoTS. Him actively hiding her in an episode of Kenobi doesn’t make it any more wise. Hell her name wasn’t even Skywalker and Reva who was interrogating her couldnt even tell she was force sensitive
I just get chills all over during this whole sequence. I know it by heart, musical score, dialogue, everything....its legendary, and one of my earliest memories from childhood. Nothing will ever beat this, and not just in Star Wars but in movies in general. I still watch this filled with awe.
More feeling and drama in this shirt clip then every movie that followed. The way he attacks, no flare, not skinny tricks. Just anger and emotion targeted at his father who failed him in every way and he won't lose the last of his family. It's brilliant.
To me, this is simply the best lightsaber fight in Star Wars. The choreography + soundtrack + dialogue and, last but no least, the emotional conflict between father and son truly makes this the highest point in all of Star Wars IMO.
My funny thoughts: *Vader cuts of Luke's hand* "Luke, I am your father." *Luke cuts off of Vader's hand.*" Vader, I am your son!" "Are you mocking me?"
Way of Nothing LOL!! I'm mocking you but.....It no longer says "Luke, I am your father" its now "No, I am your father" its been Mandela effected. We are in the end days my friend. To me this Mandela Effect / Strong Delusion is a Wake Up Call to REPENT and to get right with Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of Nazareth. This phenomenon that's happening that was foretold in our bibles (Mandela effect is part of the strong delusion God prophecies in Thessalonians. It will be allowed and those who fail to see it will embrace this delusion because they didn't love the truth.) This phenomenon should draw you closer to Jesus more than ever. And this phenomenon that's happening doesn't stop with just our bibles but our History/famous movie's/movie lines/maps/products/people's names/logos etc.. Has been changed/altered as well. I know this sounds crazy but its the TRUTH. As God is my witness. This brings me no joy, but it must be told. God bless you. mikey
@@DementedButtHole Vader: You on Spice? Luke: Spice? No, I don't take Spice. Vader, I don't like your attitude. Luke: What else is new? Vader: You're in Contempt of the Force Luke: There's a fuckin' suprise.
@@victoriastable1 I am 90% sure people had to say "Luke, I am your father" because if they said the original quote people would either A. Take it too fucking seriously or B. Not understand the reference
The music combined with this scene reminds me of what every character went through throughout the entire trilogy and now this is what it’s all been leading up to. Brilliant
When that music kicks in, this is the force finally filling Luke with the courage to press forward and do what must be done. It's beautiful...Truly one of a kind cinema.
Luke was holding back too, and more than his father. Vader explicitly said he was willing to kill Luke. Luke explicitly said he was *not* willing to kill Vader. And Vader couldn’t overwhelm his son with telekinesis. In fact, in the script for this scene, Luke was supposed to pull his lightsaber out of Vader’s left hand (if you look closely, Vader is holding Luke’s lightsaber hilt when he says “if you will not turn to the Dark Side, then perhaps she will”).
@@theopportuneson699 nah vaders got to say that for the emperor but he’s too conflicted with himself. vaders hate comes from his bad decisions in turning to the darks side and losing padme. He’s sees his son doesn’t have to go down the same path he made. So I think Vader wants to see his son resist the dark side and become the Jedi, Anikan could never be.
For me personally, this is the climax of the star wars saga. The emotion conveyed onto the screen by Hamil here is something else. You can truly feel that everything that's happed had led to this point. For me this was the final word in the saga, not the mess that is the sequels. I mean, I don't mind them, but the writing is so poor I just can't accept them as anything more than OK, when I've known the brilliance that is the original trilogy that came before them.
The sequels have so much potential within them but Disney seemed more concerned with what could be made into a toy than the actual story. Kylo is one of the few new additions I like, probably because Adam Driver is (in my opinion) one hell of an actor. At this stage I'm only looking forward to a decent Old Republic adaption but even then Disney have already shown a level of disregard for lore and structure it makes me want to be spared of the mess they could create, Rouge One is the only movie they've done that I thoroughly enjoyed since their acquisition.
@@0Satanael I totally agree! However, I quite enjoyed the mandalorian series also, but probably because it exists within the original trilogy context. So characters, locations, and events are all relatively recognizable and well established.
@@liammidatron9386 I've yet to watch it but I've heard great things, Disney + isn't here until March so I've to survive a few more months without spoilers!
That is the Problem with the sequels though. Emperor gets killed. No problem he is alive again. Luke suceeding in not completely falling to the dark side. Doesnt matter he lost the will to live because one of his students turned to the dark side. Vader fulfilling the prophecy to destroy the sith. Nevermind the sith are right back 30 years later. 6 movies built up that throne room scene and the sequels just made it useless.
The other critical thing is Princess Leia was Luke's icon idol CRUSH dream and then he suddenly was hit with the burden of knowing she was his TWIN sister(he'd never had a sibling to understand) and that their innate compatibility and syncronicity wasn't romance But it being their soul tied in the Force as womb beings conceived emerging into consciousness with each other. The Idea THAT beautiful NATURAL tie becoming the means of Leia's possible death harm or destruction moral defilement by his their father thru him = RAGE beyond control
favorite scene in all of star wars. The manic screaming and anger of luke, which we see through his furious slashes against Anakin. And the score, the fucking score. As a music major, this score speaks so much to the scene. An angelic chore which balances perfectly between victory against the Vader and mourning of Luke, of which whom we think this might be his turning point to the dark side. John Williams, you sir, are a master of the craft.
0:47 You took my family from me (Padme, Beru and Owen), you took my mentor (Obi Wan), my friend's (Biggs, Han, many rebels), my father (Anakin). I won't let you take the only family I have left.
Has anyone else ever noticed that as Vader is talking to Luke half of his face is Light 1/2 of his face is dark? I think it's absolutely amazing that they added that little detail to show that Luke was in the middle and was on the precipice of the dark side just as much as the lightside at that moment in time
I love how things have changed here... In the first battle Luke could barely stand his ground and was mostly played by Vader, before he got painfully defeated. First one was Luke against The Machine, here we have Luke vs. his power losing father. I especially like the brutality and passion Luke's expressions and moves show near the end. The pull to the dark side is visible - but it suddenly ends, as he comes down for his own sake. Such a masterpiece...
Exaclty, and I find that it makes an echo to the third episode, but this time roles are the other way around : darth vador is more like obi wan defending himself and not wanting to kill his friend/son and luke is more like anakin which is full of anger.
This scene is amazing. Luke had to embrace the Dark Side to defeat Vader and then the look on his face when he realizes what he did and the remorse that follows.
I really, really like this scene! This is one way I recognized that Luke isn't perfect. He gave in to the dark side there, but did recognize his mistake. Remember, Luke Skywalker is not perfect. He is a hero though.
Then how the fuck did he manage to beat the best Jedi killer and duelist in the galaxy with no onscreen training? I've seen WWE fights that look more believable. This "duel" was a complete joke.
@@bluepearl_22 Vader was holding back He never tried to kill him. And Luke got power spike from his connection to the force as well as dark side, briefly. Luke already was a jedi master in the begining of ROTJ. He wasn't as strong as vader yet but he was still powerful
People say that Vader held back he really didn't luke came out of nowhere using the dark side when Vader threatened Leia Vader was stunned and caught off guard at how powerful Luke had become
I disagree. He taunted Luke specifically to get that reaction from him. He knows Luke is powerful but inexperienced. Right here, he was trying to show his son what the dark side was like.
@@huuamai8151 Vader could have easily force choked him or push him away using the force. Only ret**ds think Vader went all in. He wasn't shocked at anything, he dropped his guard.
We really do not talk about how absolutely amazing this scene is. The pure emotion, Lukes desperation it all brings me on the verge of crying every fucking Time
It's so nice to see the appreciation for this scene in the comments. This duel is the culmination of the original trilogy and I love it so much, but I can never find any art of this duel online (whereas you can find plenty of art depicting the Empire Strikes Back duel), so I always thought this duel was underrated.
the most beautiful moment is what comes immediately after: luke looks at vader, and looks at himself. he realizes how vader became what he is, and he throws his lightsaber down. mocking in the face of the emperor. AND luke believes so deeply there is still good in his father, he is even willing to die to prove it. by sacrificing his temptation to the darkside, by sacrificing himself, he redeems his father from the darkness, and luke himself becomes the new face of good and light as a result.
Sibling goals. You’d protect your sibling from your abusive father, wouldn’t you? That’s what Luke does here for Leia. Except instead of abusive their dad is just evil.
The anger issues are strong with this family
Boi
El Negrito my father has it
I have it
My sister has it
Yes Leia, it’s you, you have this power too
So is losing your hand apparently
@@TretheZeldaFan Apparently,the right hand
Lol. Yep. And the Galaxy always gotta pay for the Skywalkers drama 😂😅🤣
Palpatine to Anakin:
-Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your wife.
Vader to Luke:
-Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends.
66 upvotes, seems appropriate.
I sense a pattern
It's like poetry, it rhymes
Palpatine to Rey
-Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your family.
@Emanuel Ismerio Her grandfather.
I love the choreography here. Once Vader mentions his sister, Luke isn't even fighting like a Jedi anymore. He's just swinging that lightsaber like a madman.
the choreography is so bad. 1:20 why does vader go into this position. LOL 🙄🤦♂️🤣
bee1978 cause Luke was smacking the shit out of Vader’s lightsaber with crazy strength and tired Vader out, causing him to stumble
Will Hoffman let’s also not forget it’s actual people and not animation cause people usually expect reality to resemble animation
bee1978 he was swinging so hard and so powerful that Vader tried to get away from him and he stumbled and fell
@@ethanturrano5599 FACT..
I never actually wanted to kill my son
I watch this scene over and over. The raw emotion and that musical score combined with Luke's savage lightsaber swings is just amazing. It's the most memorable scene in the franchise for me.
especially since it was bittersweet as we wanted luke to win but he was falling to the darkside at the same time. Epic moment.
ElderSnake90 I agree. It's my favorite scene in all of Star Wars.
ElderSnake90 took the words right out of my mind
Same here
everything in the OT was building to this conflict and it was Luke's failure here that put the story at the extreme low point. Here he effectively falls to the dark side and backslides everything he has learned in the last two movies.
Remember Luke's primary Arc is learning to control his feelings- here he fails and falls to the dark side. Only by giving up and accepting a presumed death at the hands of the Emperor does he complete his training.
Even after all these years, I still don’t know where Luke was hiding under there. There was like nowhere to hide.
@@Theemptythroneistaken i hope this is a joke.
Bullshit is something that in Star Wars was long before the prequels and sequels apparently
@@qqqfuzion2582 lmao
More importantly, why does vadar take 3 seconds to react to Luke's scream 0:49 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@internetwanderer9053 No, bullshit was a subtle little thing you really had to think about before at best. Then the prequels came out and bullshit was the whole damn thing you were watching. Then Disney Star Wars became bullshit incarnate, then smeared itself all over your face as it danced on the castrated remains of what once was Star Wars. Your Hope's and dreams dashed away faster than Alderaan was blown to bits.
Luke springs at him, not so much with Jedi skills, but with sheer brute fury. And the music underscores the pain and sadness of this scene. A brilliant moment by Lucas and John Williams.
Moy Musouka Richard Marquand directed this.
The music represents all the pain the empire has caused as it finally starts to lose
He almost fell to the ds but then realised that he wont end up like his father and threw aways his light saber
Luke is fighting with anger and hate. He should have fallen to the Dark Side because of that. The scene is not logic.
@@zaynzayn8206 This scene is perfect logic. He was using the dark side and had the chance to kill Vader. Unlike Anikan, he thought of what he was doing and denied the Dark Side.
I don't think we're ever getting a scene as good as this one.
It's certainly got that chill factor that the best scenes always do.
Order 66 was great to
No no I don't think there will
@@aj-ij7pd you were 100% right
@@dylanrinker6831 Disney totally ruined star wars man 😞
..."Then perhaps she will."
Luke goes crazy - slices off Vader's hand.
Vader - I was just kidding!!
Vader: It was just a prank bro
Bunvee Pudding but the arm lost it🌚
Bro there's cameras over there chill it was just a prank
I love vadar
Good old darth vadar
"Perhaps she will...."
Luke goes crackhead mode
*"IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO,STOP,STOP I'M JOKIN,STOP"*
"Perhaps she will..."
Luke: th-cam.com/video/9ffpVh6Ry3A/w-d-xo.html
0:48
Is this JoJo reference?
I love how Vader literally GASPS when he realizes Luke is right behind him. It’s so weird seeing an “Oh SHIT” moment coming from him, but it’s also pretty great, honestly
Shows how skilled luke is in RoTJ, managing to get behind vader unnoticed. Great arc
"Your skills ARE complete"
I never noticed that gasp before! Thanks
@@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 his suit apparently had awful hearing aids which made it next to impossible for him to tell which direction sounds came from
He's probably thinking: First Obi-Wan, then Ahsoka and now my own son is going to split my wig to the white meat. The former two do exactly that, sliced his helmet open
this was one of the most infamous lightsaber duels to me. once Darth Vader had threatened him with his sister, he didn't give a shit weather Vader was his father or not, he just wanted to kill him. like, it came so unexpectedly, so suddenly, you just didn't anticipate it.
This scene gives me goose bumps! Ever since I first saw it back in 1983. It was emotional then and is still now. 😁👍
I don't think luke was trying to kill, because even when he did open vader up, he specifically went for the hand even though straight down would be instant kill. And he targeted vader's saber more than once. I think he was just venting
@@scottlowerson2616 ok boomer
Itachi Uchiha oh look at you, you think you are funny because you repeated what your fellow 4th graders that think they are cool say to the teacher
Itachi Uchiha I bet you waited so long to say that
1:21 when you spam the same button and still win in battlefront
Nice
Charlie Russell nice what
@@kennyherron6529 idk I'm on a spree of replying nice to a person on every video I see. You won I guess
Charlie Russell ok
0:49 but when he knows how to parry
The score sounds like a choir of angels. I, too, replay this scene over and over. Goosebumps every time.
Pillerparty What is the name of this score?
Erick Ortiz Battle of Endor 2 - Medley. This scene is from about 04:30 into the track.
Pillerparty Thanks!
Erick Ortiz it is called "a jedi's fury"
But It's dark, more like fallen angels
I wonder if Luke ever thought this:
Father, can we ever have one conversation that does not involve the *fucking* Dark Side?!
"Hey son can you go up the shop for some milk? and when you come back i'll tell you the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise"
HASEnoncorperated Luke would look at Vader and Palpatine, shake his head ruefully and would be like *I just can't fuckin' win with you two*
"I'm headed out to Toshi Station to pick up some power converters."
"Do be back before sunset. Before the Dark Side rises."
Can we just talk about the fact that this movie came out in 1983 and still looks phenomenal by modern standards? What they did back then was nothing short of magic.
Industrial Light and Magic
I agree. There’s so little originality these days, and these 3 films were trailblazers, and mostly future proofed, aside of special edition tweaks
There are 40s films that look phenomenal
When I see the lightsabers, or hear the sound effects, the way they shot the starships and their designs, the space battles, I said ILM team was ahead of it's time, maybe some things look dated now, which is justified knowing the years that these movies have, and maybe that explain some changes made in the special editions (not all of them aged very well), but really the Star Wars original trilogy is still pretty amazing to watch today, as modern pieces of filmmaking.
@@flimpeenflarmpoon1353 That's due to HD remastering.
It's crazy how this is genuinely one of the best lightsaber duels ever, even when compared to most of the modern movies. The choreography not only shows off such an intense and believable fight, but carries so much emotion and detail with it. Such an amazing scene.
The shot from the side when they are dueling past the stairs is fantastic
honestly I think it's my favourite shot of the entire series
I love the leg steps Luke takes forward, it's like real fencing. Not like all other fights in newer Star Wars movies where they just fly around
0:48
Hard not to feel bad for Vader/Anakin here...
Eric Evensen I don’t. Now he gets a grasp of how it felt when he struck down countless Jedi during the purge. Never dish what you can’t take.
From my point of view I feel bad for Anakin not Vader.
@@TheMrPeteChannel THEN YOU ARE LOST
@@kgunitkeese17 tbf he is about 42 years old here. He is out of his prime and is conflicted about hurting his son. So give him a break on losing. He,(the greatest jedi killer in the galaxy) probably could have beat luke, who was still an inexperienced jedi, if his pussy side(anakin) didn't interfere .
blank 003 you sound like a vader fanboy.
I love how absolutely terrified Vader is of Luke in that moment. The way he keeps losing ground and can't keep up with how sporadic Luke's swinging is. Seeing such a terrifying villain being the one who's scared is the ultimate satisfaction.
At this point Vader was losing his grip on Anikan; they both were tired of the hate and self loathing, and the whole reason for Vader existing was shattered when he found out his son survived. He's been battling for control ever since. It's almost as if he's convincing himself more than Luke here, it's amazing story telling
@@joshward8395 , Anakin.
Yeah after Kenobi it seems the only way to beat Vader is to get spontaneously angry and he gets scared as shit
This has to be the very moment where Vader feels fear and sadness, the fear of his own son beating him and the sadness that his own son is fighting him.
"You turned him against me!"
And seeing his son begin to become like him.
@@crashpal You have done that yourself!
@@Brother_O4TS”YOU WILL NOT TAKE HIM FROM ME!”
1:03 that shot with that music will always be one of my favorite star wars scenes.
It gives me goosebumps to this day. Something about that chord 'sustain' while the choir ascends gives the moment so much gravitas.
It's the climax of the entire trilogy. Return of the Jedi has its flaws but the Vader-Luke confrontation isn't one of them.
Me too!
And so is that frame when you click on this timeframe.
@@andremaccarini1656 what is the name of the score that goes through this scene
Poor Anakin, he always get his hand cutted
More like always getting limbs cutted.
@@juliemcintyre428 More like your grammar always cut...
@@ButcherGrindslam Who are you, my sophmore English teacher?
@@juliemcintyre428 No. Definitely better as he/she didn't teach you how to spell forms of "cut" word.
@@ButcherGrindslam Cut or cut off. Better?
The best scene in Star Wars.
Yes
100%
The best moment when Luke loses it and Vader takes his first inhale in a bit and looks up like, "oh shit!" And the fighting starts. Lol
Nothing in this new movie will ever top this moment on a pure emotional level. My favorite moment in Star Wars right here.
+eric hartman Can confirm. Saw TFA tonight and frankly I'm more disappointed than I thought I would be. Not a single moment gave me goosebumps, and the score of the film simply lacked the raw power of moments like this.
Definitely one of the most emotional scenes in Star Wars. Lets hope Rian Johnson can recreate a moment like this.
@MeatSim64 Agreed
@@OldPervertedHerbert lmfaoooooo thats the funniest thing post tlj
Tros broke me
You can see from a cinematography standpoint as Luke is standing there, listening to his father. The darkness and shadows are almost enveloping his face. His fear, rage, and sorrow of fighting his father and wanting to save his friends, darkens his soul, and you see it visually. 75% of his face covered in shadow. The moment Vader mentions that he'll turn his daughter, Luke's face is almost complete darkness. That is story telling through cinematography. Showing us, the audience how CLOSE Luke was to the dark side.
You left out the best part... "Goooooooooood!" *evil cackle*
I shouldn’t
@@moruslorus6719 DEW IT
So much passion in that fight. I like to imagine that the reason Vader isn't doing any of his fancy spinning lightsaber tricks are because Luke is dealing such passionate heavy blows he's afraid to let his guard down. So he just holds his lightsaber in front of him in a defensive position.
What a way to protect your precious childhood memories. LOL
This fight was a complete joke and nothing but plot convenience.
@@bluepearl_22 I'm not protecting anything. I genuinely like this fight. Sorry you feel the need to rip on other people's likes and dislikes, it's really not going to change my opinion. Maybe you'd be more useful doing something productive :)
Kind of like when he was just aggressively battling Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was always defensive
The way I look at this scene is not that vader was afraid, or even bested by Luke.
Vader simply did not want to hurt or kill his son, this is the conflict within him Luke was talking about. Vader only wished to turn him to the darkside, if Luke killed him so be it, Vader only cared for his son, not himself. But Luke refused to be turned, and in doing so, forced Vader to choose, he chose his son.
But Vader wasn't really even trying to fight his son, he was ready to die
It's an actual move in real fencing -- you basically hammer at the opponent's blade to weaken their grip via transferred vibration until they eventually either drop the blade or slip up their defense.
The styles in the original trilogy are much closer to fencing/longsword than the flashy wuxia-inspired fighting of the prequels. CGI not requiring characters to have actual weight also allowed for some flashy moves that weren't possible otherwise.
I always thought Luke yelled “NOOOOOOOO” in a weird way but he yells “NEVERRRR”
It still sounds weird
i thought he always yelled AAAAAAA like in anger wtf lol
I swore he yelled ,” DARTH.” In a way telling his father was an enemy now and not his father
dannyhuskerjay
How did you hear Darth from that 😂
I always thought he yelled “DARTH!!”
The amount of times Vader says “complete” in the Original Trilogy:
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Azwildcat 56 im not even gonna like his comment to keep the culture that way
Thought I was the only one who noticed Star Wars overusing “complete”
Complete and never are the most used words in Star Wars
I've always loved the differences between ESB and RotJ fights between Luke and Vader. In ESB, Luke is still immature, young and has a dogmatic view of right and wrong. He rejects Vader's offer to join the Dark Side almost immediately. In RotJ, the temptation is much more real. Luke understands the dualistic and subtle nature of life more, and has matured as a Jedi apprentice. The Dark Side seems more inviting now - he can use it to save his friends and end the war. He sympathizes with his father more, and realizes that good and bad are just ideas bringing him to the brink of giving in. Finally he fully gives into his hate and rage when Vader mentions turning Leia. It's amazing that Luke resisted succumbing to the Dark Side, even after comparing his hand to Vader's freshly cut stump.
True. He goes from “I’ll never join you!” To “I can’t kill my own father.”
Luke was trying to bring his father back to the Light, as he sensed the conflict within his father. But when Vader taunted Luke about his sister Leia, Luke gave into his emotions and unwittingly tunnel-visioned to the Dark Side until calming down and realizing he was going down the same path of his father.
"Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends" "like you saved Padme?"
I like how Luke is barely paying attention to where he's swinging in the first few moments, then the moment he makes contact with Anakin he regains some composure. Really amplifies how angered he is
The music... Then finding out it was not on our vinyl back in 83...a long wait until it came out on that spectacular CD box set, one of my very favourite cues.
THIS SCENE IS SO RAW. THERE IS A CONTROLLED MADNESS ABOUT IT. ITS ONE OF STAR WARS BEST MOMENTS.
This is by far my favorite scene in all of Star Wars. The way the music swells as Luke pushes Vader back never fails to give me chills! We're watching the most powerful man in the galaxy finally meet his match. And as it becomes apparent that Luke is the inevitable victor of their duel the music shifts from heroic to foreboding. The Emperor's theme sneaks in as Luke is tempted to give in to his hatred, then fades as he regains his composure.
Brilliant work Mr. Williams, Mr. Hamill, and Mr. Lucas. Bravo.
I used to 'dislike' (hate is too strong a word) ROTJ because of the darned Ewoks but by golly, I have begun remembering Luke as a full fledged Jedi night dealing with Jabba and is army of scum and here as he defeats his father and suddenly realizes who and what he is. Awesome stuff.
It's also obvious that Vader is holding back like Luke said he would. He never goes full power against his son. Some part of him remains Anakin. "I feel the good in you. The conflict"
The music is wonderful. "A jedi's fury" if anyone wanted to know
1:04 to 1:11 I have always been in awe of this shot. It’s one my favorites in all of cinema.
That music and Luke’s furious anger still gives me chills 39 years after I first saw it. The best scene in all of Star Wars.
He almost had him embrace the dark side here. The emperor loved it.
I wonder what would happen If a jedi fully enbraced the Dark side, but still hated the sith
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 Dark Jedi. But can you elaborate more?
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 there's plenty of Darkside users that aren't Sith. There can only be 2 Sith Lords at a time.
Even if he did turn to the dark side, why would he join the emperor? never made any sense. After killing Vader he would just try to kill the emperor too.
the shot when there fighting under the stairs and all you see is their silhouettes and there light sabers....combined with the music gives me chills every time
You can see so much resemblance to Anakin form Luke here. It’s the same pattern - Anakin was scared of losing the one she loves most (Padme) so he got angry. And Luke is scared of losing the one he loves most (his sister) is he gets angry. Like father like son.
That was pretty much the plot of the entire trilogy, obiwan and Yoda saw they were basically the same person almost, very similar, they were afraid from the beginning he would make the same mistake
Or like Kenobi in episode 1 or most people in that situation but yes
"Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me" the series makes this quote even more true. The way he keeps her presence hidden in episode 3 especially when they encounter each other
It’s really fucked up to hear that coming from Anakin about his own daughter.
I think main reason he says that is to be an additional trigger to luke, since he knows how much he liked obi wan
@@nikolasbersebach3045 well no shit, the prequels and the show didn't exist yet 🙄
I don’t know how the series adds to that at all, it was already a true statement because of RoTS. Him actively hiding her in an episode of Kenobi doesn’t make it any more wise. Hell her name wasn’t even Skywalker and Reva who was interrogating her couldnt even tell she was force sensitive
@@JakeTylenol 😑 "don't lecture me Obi-Wan"
I just get chills all over during this whole sequence. I know it by heart, musical score, dialogue, everything....its legendary, and one of my earliest memories from childhood. Nothing will ever beat this, and not just in Star Wars but in movies in general. I still watch this filled with awe.
Star wars movies were never the same
More feeling and drama in this shirt clip then every movie that followed. The way he attacks, no flare, not skinny tricks. Just anger and emotion targeted at his father who failed him in every way and he won't lose the last of his family. It's brilliant.
the greatest lightsaber duel ever. so much raw emotion from the story, acting and music. you literally cannot fault this fight
>Learns that he has a daughter
"Well if you don't love daddy maybe she might"
#feels
To me, this is simply the best lightsaber fight in Star Wars. The choreography + soundtrack + dialogue and, last but no least, the emotional conflict between father and son truly makes this the highest point in all of Star Wars IMO.
1:14 check out the lightsaber shadows
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Now I’m never gonna I see that. At least I can surprise my fellow fans.
@@TheStraightestWhitest I don't see anybody
@@_simpforjiroukyouka_7493 Not enough likes on the comment I guess.
My funny thoughts: *Vader cuts of Luke's hand* "Luke, I am your father." *Luke cuts off of Vader's hand.*" Vader, I am your son!" "Are you mocking me?"
That just took a turn for My Cousin Vinny: "mocking you? No, I'm not mocking you" XD
Way of Nothing LOL!! I'm mocking you but.....It no longer says "Luke, I am your father" its now "No, I am your father" its been Mandela effected. We are in the end days my friend.
To me this Mandela Effect / Strong Delusion
is a Wake Up Call to REPENT and to get right with Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of Nazareth. This phenomenon that's happening that was foretold in our bibles (Mandela effect is part of the strong delusion God prophecies in Thessalonians. It will be allowed and those who fail to see it will embrace this delusion because they didn't love the truth.) This phenomenon should draw you closer to Jesus more than ever. And this phenomenon that's happening doesn't stop with just our bibles but our History/famous movie's/movie lines/maps/products/people's names/logos etc.. Has been changed/altered as well. I know this sounds crazy but its the TRUTH. As God is my witness. This brings me no joy, but it must be told.
God bless you. mikey
@@DementedButtHole Vader: You on Spice?
Luke: Spice? No, I don't take Spice.
Vader, I don't like your attitude.
Luke: What else is new?
Vader: You're in Contempt of the Force
Luke: There's a fuckin' suprise.
Mandela effect. It's "No, I am your father"
@@victoriastable1 I am 90% sure people had to say "Luke, I am your father" because if they said the original quote people would either A. Take it too fucking seriously or B. Not understand the reference
The music combined with this scene reminds me of what every character went through throughout the entire trilogy and now this is what it’s all been leading up to. Brilliant
Palpatine is just sitting up there listening to the sounds under him, having no clue wtf is going on
When that music kicks in, this is the force finally filling Luke with the courage to press forward and do what must be done. It's beautiful...Truly one of a kind cinema.
Vader was holding back cause he doesn’t want to kill his son. So kind of him to not force choke Luke to death. A true scholar
That had to have been what Obi-Wan was counting on, its the only thing that makes sense.
Luke was holding back too, and more than his father. Vader explicitly said he was willing to kill Luke. Luke explicitly said he was *not* willing to kill Vader.
And Vader couldn’t overwhelm his son with telekinesis. In fact, in the script for this scene, Luke was supposed to pull his lightsaber out of Vader’s left hand (if you look closely, Vader is holding Luke’s lightsaber hilt when he says “if you will not turn to the Dark Side, then perhaps she will”).
@@theopportuneson699 nah vaders got to say that for the emperor but he’s too conflicted with himself. vaders hate comes from his bad decisions in turning to the darks side and losing padme. He’s sees his son doesn’t have to go down the same path he made. So I think Vader wants to see his son resist the dark side and become the Jedi, Anikan could never be.
@@LoopLife42 Regardless, Luke was holding back as well, so the whole “Vader is holding back” argument is moot. Neither fought at full capacity.
@@theopportuneson699 nah Luke was trying and Vader wasn’t that’s the moot of the story
For me personally, this is the climax of the star wars saga. The emotion conveyed onto the screen by Hamil here is something else. You can truly feel that everything that's happed had led to this point.
For me this was the final word in the saga, not the mess that is the sequels. I mean, I don't mind them, but the writing is so poor I just can't accept them as anything more than OK, when I've known the brilliance that is the original trilogy that came before them.
The sequels have so much potential within them but Disney seemed more concerned with what could be made into a toy than the actual story. Kylo is one of the few new additions I like, probably because Adam Driver is (in my opinion) one hell of an actor.
At this stage I'm only looking forward to a decent Old Republic adaption but even then Disney have already shown a level of disregard for lore and structure it makes me want to be spared of the mess they could create, Rouge One is the only movie they've done that I thoroughly enjoyed since their acquisition.
@@0Satanael I totally agree! However, I quite enjoyed the mandalorian series also, but probably because it exists within the original trilogy context. So characters, locations, and events are all relatively recognizable and well established.
@@liammidatron9386 I've yet to watch it but I've heard great things, Disney + isn't here until March so I've to survive a few more months without spoilers!
That is the Problem with the sequels though.
Emperor gets killed. No problem he is alive again.
Luke suceeding in not completely falling to the dark side. Doesnt matter he lost the will to live because one of his students turned to the dark side.
Vader fulfilling the prophecy to destroy the sith. Nevermind the sith are right back 30 years later.
6 movies built up that throne room scene and the sequels just made it useless.
@@Stego1819 You know they did a character dirty when the actor goes out of their way to warn fans during interviews that they've fucked up.
0:48 "It was at this moment, Vader knew, he messed up!"
I get goosebumps from the wailing choir in the background. Such an epic music for the final confrontation.
Never fucking underestimate how far love can drag you into darkness, nor how powerfully it can pull you back to the light. Goodbye Princess...
I love the undertone hum of Vader's lightsaber while he's looking for Luke.
“ITS JUST A PRANK BRO!”
The prank:
"Your thoughts betray you for your... Sister." The way he says that last word will always give me chills
1:00 - *Goosebumps and tears* .... *ALWAYS* 😭
"Obi Wan was wise to hide her from me."
Me after watching Obi Wan: 😳
Just finished the Kenobi series and damn I love what Star Wars is doing. Makes rewatching iconic moments like this more satisfying
1:22 me tryna open a pinata at a birthday party
The other critical thing is Princess Leia was Luke's icon idol CRUSH dream and then he suddenly was hit with the burden of knowing she was his TWIN sister(he'd never had a sibling to understand) and that their innate compatibility and syncronicity wasn't romance But it being their soul tied in the Force as womb beings conceived emerging into consciousness with each other.
The Idea THAT beautiful NATURAL tie becoming the means of Leia's possible death harm or destruction moral defilement by his their father thru him = RAGE beyond control
Twin sister, wait i have a Daughter!
favorite scene in all of star wars.
The manic screaming and anger of luke, which we see through his furious slashes against Anakin.
And the score, the fucking score. As a music major, this score speaks so much to the scene. An angelic chore which balances perfectly between victory against the Vader and mourning of Luke, of which whom we think this might be his turning point to the dark side. John Williams, you sir, are a master of the craft.
The score in this duel never fails to give me goosebumps.
RIP James Earl Jones. May the Force be with you…
0:47 You took my family from me (Padme, Beru and Owen), you took my mentor (Obi Wan), my friend's (Biggs, Han, many rebels), my father (Anakin). I won't let you take the only family I have left.
Has anyone else ever noticed that as Vader is talking to Luke half of his face is Light 1/2 of his face is dark? I think it's absolutely amazing that they added that little detail to show that Luke was in the middle and was on the precipice of the dark side just as much as the lightside at that moment in time
I love how things have changed here... In the first battle Luke could barely stand his ground and was mostly played by Vader, before he got painfully defeated. First one was Luke against The Machine, here we have Luke vs. his power losing father. I especially like the brutality and passion Luke's expressions and moves show near the end. The pull to the dark side is visible - but it suddenly ends, as he comes down for his own sake. Such a masterpiece...
I like how Vader cries out in pain when his robotic hand was cut off
Robotic or not it's still attached to his nerves. Being as advanced as technology is in their universe I'm not surprised it hurt him
The conflict in Luke's mind is what makes this scene so powerful, yet so beautiful
I thought I was alone thinking this is the best Star Wars moment
"Give yourself to the Dark Side. It is the only way to save your friends."
*Uses the exact tactics Palpatine used on him*
-Emotional Damage!
Most underrated music in the original trilogy
Impossible challenge: Watch this scene without getting goosebumps.
shit i failed,.
how much do i owe you?
Yeah that music hit
Every time they cut to the stairs shot I tear up! There are so many motifs striking at once it’s overwhelming!
*luke cuts off Vader’s hand*
Vader: NOT AGAIN!!
Dam
Ah shit, here we go again
@@EzDyt "Grove Street worst place in the world"
This whole scene is my favorite in Star Wars
The panning shot from right to left is one of the best in all cinema
James Earl Jones absolutely kills it in this scene. Just pure malice emanating from his voice
Always gave me chills with that magnificent voice! He should have won an Oscar for it honestly, like in the sound effects category or something.
There is so much unbridled, sinister venom in the utterance of the word "Sister"
That laugh is just iconic gets me every time
God, the music is just so EPIC here!
The one time Vader went full defensive mode like Obi Wan.
Instant chills over my whole body.
Iconic lightsaber fight. No spins, no BS, simple focused aggression on every hit, and to the point. Thats what "focused" is all about...
I wonder if anyone noticed that darth vader didn't actually attack luke but only defended himself as luke used his dark emotions
Exaclty, and I find that it makes an echo to the third episode, but this time roles are the other way around : darth vador is more like obi wan defending himself and not wanting to kill his friend/son and luke is more like anakin which is full of anger.
This scene is amazing. Luke had to embrace the Dark Side to defeat Vader and then the look on his face when he realizes what he did and the remorse that follows.
yeah, at 1:18, Vader could have finished it
Give me the novel's best spin and throne room they never wanted to kill Luke he was too valuable as an asset
I really, really like this scene! This is one way I recognized that Luke isn't perfect. He gave in to the dark side there, but did recognize his mistake. Remember, Luke Skywalker is not perfect. He is a hero though.
Then how the fuck did he manage to beat the best Jedi killer and duelist in the galaxy with no onscreen training? I've seen WWE fights that look more believable. This "duel" was a complete joke.
@@bluepearl_22 Vader was holding back He never tried to kill him. And Luke got power spike from his connection to the force as well as dark side, briefly. Luke already was a jedi master in the begining of ROTJ. He wasn't as strong as vader yet but he was still powerful
@@bluepearl_22 shit I respond to the 2 years old comment
@@veyselveysel7458 I Agree. Also Vader Being Conflicted Because of Luke Being His Son I'd Reckon.
So glad no one disliked this video. How could you, it brings me the chills and tears almost every time !
Why did you have to say that...
Great, now you give me no choice but to dislike it! Thanks...
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Well, at least this was true 3 years ago
People say that Vader held back he really didn't luke came out of nowhere using the dark side when Vader threatened Leia Vader was stunned and caught off guard at how powerful Luke had become
I disagree. He taunted Luke specifically to get that reaction from him. He knows Luke is powerful but inexperienced. Right here, he was trying to show his son what the dark side was like.
I actually think you’re both right ... but Vader didn’t expect to get beat like that ...
@@justicestyles that's debatable, I guess.
@@huuamai8151 Vader could have easily force choked him or push him away using the force. Only ret**ds think Vader went all in. He wasn't shocked at anything, he dropped his guard.
@@asuraspath2262 why are you telling me? What did I do to you?
I wish I could experience this for the first time again
Darth Vader can't see shit out that helmet can he lmao like *he's right there, bro*
We really do not talk about how absolutely amazing this scene is. The pure emotion, Lukes desperation it all brings me on the verge of crying every fucking Time
Force Awakens did it better.
It's so nice to see the appreciation for this scene in the comments. This duel is the culmination of the original trilogy and I love it so much, but I can never find any art of this duel online (whereas you can find plenty of art depicting the Empire Strikes Back duel), so I always thought this duel was underrated.
the most beautiful moment is what comes immediately after: luke looks at vader, and looks at himself. he realizes how vader became what he is, and he throws his lightsaber down. mocking in the face of the emperor. AND luke believes so deeply there is still good in his father, he is even willing to die to prove it. by sacrificing his temptation to the darkside, by sacrificing himself, he redeems his father from the darkness, and luke himself becomes the new face of good and light as a result.
Legitimately a perfect scene. Shame they kinda ruined it in the later editions by adding that stupid “NOOOooooo!!!!!” from Vader.
The music my god the music!
1:03 i love this part of the song. it’s sounds so good
Do you know what song it is, sounds amazing
Sibling goals.
You’d protect your sibling from your abusive father, wouldn’t you? That’s what Luke does here for Leia. Except instead of abusive their dad is just evil.