Led Zeppelin: Rock Gods or Monsters?
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00:00 Introduction
01:30 It Begins With The Blues
02:20 Humble Beginnings
05:17 The Yardbirds
05:39 Beck’s Bolero
07:26 Jimmy’s Vision
09:20 The Rise of Led Zeppelin
11:32 Part Two: The Fall (over on Nebula) - เพลง
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No thanks - I’ll give it a miss and Spitz’s book…
Bert Weedon is worth a look at.
Why would I pay for Docs when I can find them everywhere for free?
No
Nice, I don't watch nearly enough stuff over there 😁
Rise and Fall of Zeppelin ? They never fell ...
Just what I was thinking.
They broke up after one of their best albums, sadly.
I knew Robert Plant pre Led Zep. We are from the same part of the Black Country. I used to play in the resident band at a weekly blues club (The Ship and Rainbow Wolverhampton if anyone remembers it) and Planty as he was known, was a regular visitor. He was always more than willing to get up on stage and jam with us. We used to joke it was harder to keep him off the stage. But when he wasn't singing he was a quiet sort of bloke believe it or not.
I met Robert Plant in Narragansett Rhode Island in 1991 at the Pier House Inn he got drunk tall dude !
I believe it
Robert was probably the lesser of the evil.
The set of pipes he had back then still make the hair on my arm stand up. His version of hey joe with band of joy maybe? Incredible. Those pipes eluded him after 72 and he was just an average singer after that but damn...when he was young I would have given an arm to see him sing live.
@@rickchyczewski576 Smoking and abusing your vocal chords 24/7 will do that. Such a shame.
John Paul Jones was a happily married family man (married to this day to the same woman since 1967) who usually separated himself after the gigs. He would stay in a separate hotel (later Jimmy and Robert would go so far as staying on separate floors from Bonham because he was so out of control), and generally had little contact with the rest of the band that wasn't related to music or business. He wasn't completely immune from the rock and roll lifestyle and by his own admission did more drugs than he'd care to admit but he always kept it low key and was nowhere near the legendarily debauched monsters that Page and Bonham were.
The first time I heard Led Zeppelin a few years into their existence, it was Led Zeppelin and everyone else. The songs, production and musicianship were untouchable. They are as relevant to me today as they were when I first discovered their music.
I leaned towards Sabbath more as I got older ...vol 4 and sabotage are heavy metal perfection
Yeah. Light years ahead of their contemporaries.
@ACDZ123
I got bored of Sabbath quickly. One trick ponies.
@@lyndoncmp5751it's Led Zeppelin that are the one trick ponies. It's just rip off white man blues. Iommi invented heavy music and Sabbath were a million times more innovative than LZ. War pigs? Symptom of the universe? Supernaut? The sheer amount of riffs is almost too hard to believe. It's ridiculous.
@@robbierichards3911 one trick ponies? LZ covered all genres of music. Most versatile band ever.
Jpj said of that train kept rollin that he looked up halfway thru and everybody had a huge smile on their faces and he knew the band was set
They knew they had something special when the four of them first got together and jammed! And Jimmy Page had no idea how truly great they, as a band, would become. Jimmy later said as much.
I love how he adds at the end "It was pretty bloody obvious, to be honest." lol
Pretty much everything in this video can be found in a few minutes online or reading a Led Zeppelin Wikipedia article.
Given how surface level the info is here, there's no way I'm going to nebula to pay a premium; no matter how much I enjoy Mary's content.
HAHAHA righto...I knew most if not all this information when I was 14 (1979). I first "discovered" Zeppelin in 77 and have worn out all forms of recording mediums of all their albums...cant stop myself from that being my "go to" music. Nebula...only the smart folks use this medium!! All the other mediums are SHIITE!! according to Mary's rehash history channel. Sorry I may be a bit of a negative Nancy. I want to be 1st to hear stuff I knew 45 yrs ago. Like Neil Youngs PONO...My hearing is shit now so I could enjoy hearing an MP3 just as much as a analog vinyl Album these days.
Yeah I know, literally having read a couple of books about them, it's all old news that's gone over in greater detail there, but her presentation of it is fine.
thanks for the heads up. we won't wait
@@garydiamondguitaristterrible presentation - at what point did she answer (or even touch upon) the question posed in the name of the video?
@@DirtyDirkDiggler Perhaps the question you should be asking yourself is, why are you asking that of a complete stranger? If you don't agree with someone that's fine but that doesn't magically grant you the right to demand answers from them because of it 😂
Normally I wouldn't confront someone in public like this, but since you made me sit through an ad for Nebula to see only a part of your documentary, I feel justified this time. I signed up for Nebula through an ad on legal eagle which promised that if I signed up and continued a bundle of Curiosity Stream and Nebula that would be mine for as long as I kept my subscription paid up. Well, I did - but you didn't. After a few years I got a notice that I'd no longer be able to subscribe to both for one low price. So now I subscribe to neither service as I don't really trust either of you to keep your word to consumers.
Streaming services are rip-offs.
@@asnark7115 Do you realize you just gave a content maker ( Mary Spender) your time of day? Perhaps you should take your own advice.
Damn that's pretty scummy. No subs from me, Mary!
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Specifically music streaming services are helping kill not just live music but music in general if you care about new artists. It's always been hard to make a living from being a musician full time which is why for most it's never their main occupation, but it's ironic in an age you can get the output from most artists at your fingertips, we're all being put in a position where we're making so little from it. I have a feeling that's partly why artists like KISS and Bruce Springsteen are selling off their back catalogues for huge sums while it's still worth something - them and their accountants probably know something we all don't.
If you really want to support an artist you need to buy their merch which is usually the thing they get the biggest cut of, so shirts, fridge magnets, physical album releases (vinyl/CD) in cases where that benefits them too. Sadly that's the economy of the music business - it wasn't great when I started in the 90s and it's only really gotten worse since then.
It's a shame they can legally do that. No one has ethics.
Worked for LZ building the stage etc at Knebworth in 1979. Best 6 weeks of my life. My maths teacher was also John Bonhams form master at school.
we had a teacher that said he went to every philly show ever
If this is the first half, I can't say I'm going to be missing anything by not seeing the second half. Additional cudos for the click-bait title.
And we are all very fortunate to be on the planet to get to hear and see all these events happen!
So you give us a juicy question in the thumbnail (that you don't explain or answer) and then proceed to give us a regurgitated history of the band 🥱
It’s called click bait.
Absolutely agree
Really! It's like "Hey guys, I made a video about someone's book" LOL.
@@Edward-MTBKRLol YES!
at least it was Zeppelin
Wow what a great story. Sadly one that will never be repeated in history again. That era is long gone.
I parked cars for the Seattle Pop Festival in 1969. The condition for my labor was that I could stop to watch Iron Butterfly and Led Zeplin. Led Zeplin didn't even have an album out yet. They played less than half an hour. At my Senior Prom, Heart played. Nancy also graduated that year from a neighboring high school. Heart played more Led Zeplin than anything else. Zep had two albums out by then. Whole Lotta Love was a game changer.
Interesting.
Led Zeppelin is the band's name.
@@keneisner3445 and to add insult to injury, Led is actually spelled "Lead."
As far as "Whole Lotta Love" being a game changer, I agree. It ushered in a new way to rip off other people's songs and musical styles while packaging it as original. Listen to The Small Faces version of "You Need Loving."
@@chriskennedy2846 The freak out section of Whole Lot of Love Ruined what could have been a passable hard rock song.
@@chriskennedy2846 It certainly was a game changer for Willie Dixon's bank account!
Don't fall off your high horse, child. Ta ta.
They were always the Yardbirds 2.0 to me. I listened to blues back in my high school days, the Yardbirds and Fleetwood Mac were my two favs followed by John Mayal and the Animals. The 60's -70's were the best for music, I pity the kids today.
I don't don't feel that they were Yardbirds 2.0. The Yardbirds mostly recreated classic blues tunes with some of their own originals where as Led Zeppelin took some of those tunes and went to a whole new level with them. If anything, the Yardbirds, as they were, were actually holding back Page.
@@contemposuits1983 Jimi Page formed Led Zep to complete contractual obligations that the Yardbirds had, he even called them The New Yardirds at their first gigs. You can search on TH-cam and watch Dazed and Confused and other Zep tunes by the Yardbirds. You will appreciate Plante over Keith Relf in short order.
led zep were Gary Glitter 1.0
I remember the "Led Zeppelin Binge". You would just sit down with a few friends and starting with Led Zeppelin I play every album from beginning to end, non stop. That was the only band we would do that with.
And PInk Floyd
That's probably why the term Zeppeleptics got popular in NJ
@@1fnklown Don't forget to add "Zeptember"
A month long tribute to the greatest band ever
Used to do a thing annually called the Rolling Stones Marathon...
@@goodbyebluesky5770 93.3 GET the Led Out, I used to love hearing that, you knew something good was coming on the radio at work or where ever.
You cant talk about Led Zep without including their manager Peter Grant.
You need to watch the whole thing 😂
True enough. He was the muscle when it was needed. The music industry was a dog show!
@@MarySpender does the nebula one have more about rise as well?
@@MarySpenderOh hello!
Well, I enjoyed your taste anyway.
And their road manager Richard Cole.
I only saw this video not the full video and it's pretty accurate, I've met Jimmy a few times thru my friendship with his girlfriend Scarlett and I can guarantee to you that he is not a monster and one of the sweetest chap I've ever met, very soft spoken and sweet, during that era drugs, sex and rock and roll went hand in hand with each other, that said Jimmy has been clean from drugs, drinking and smoking for decades so he is doing great🐉🙏🏻
Totally agree! I met Jimmy in 2005, a real Gentleman and I met Scarlett in 2018 from memory, she is an incredible Lady and amazing poet. Have seen her reading twice and still talk occasionally via Instagram. They are both beautiful Souls.
People should get banned for making these titles trying to besmurge great muscians! It's a shame?Mary would stoop sooo low
Preeeetty sure, Scarlett, was NOT his girlfriend since that is his daughter. CHARLOTTE, was Scarlett's mother so...
I have met Jimmy and can say he is such a down to earth person, very decent and giving.
This TH-cam article is shallow at best
I was lucky enough to see LZ twice in the summer of '69 at a relatively small venue in Chicago called The Kinetic Playground.
And what made it even better was the 3 band bill each time as was common in those days. First show was Savoy Brown, Jethro Tull and Zep. A few weeks later it was Lighthouse, Santana and Zep! It's hard to put into words anything that would capture the overwhelming joy and power of these shows which were unlike anything any of us had ever seen. The sheer volume, the psychedelic stage lighting and the magnetic moves of Plant, Page and Anderson were captivating. These are precious memories.
I am incredibly jealous of you. That must have been glorious. I was still in the oven until july of 69.
I used to be able to walk to Kinetic Playground, I lived close to it. I saw Johnny Winter there. Winter tore up the stage when he was young.
I only saw them live once, at Knebworth Festival in the UK in August 1979. I'd been to a lot of festivals and concerts by then, even at 20 years of age, and I'd say that Led Zeppelin live stood head and shoulders above most. Their sound and energy on stage was epic.
How far back were you?......wasn't it fun trying to find your mates when you went for food/drink/toilet?
@@gingercat777 Uff, I was up the hill about 50m infront of a first-aid tent, which was handy because I needed stitches after a fight with someone during The Tubes...So ended up seeing the show through one eye! Luckily, my ears were unscathed!
@@markdonovan1540 Yup, it was that kind of day and night 😊
@@gingercat777 The thing is I was trying to stop someone pestering a poor guy bombed out in a sleeping bag. He took a wild swing at me, I ducked and he fell over. Then out of the blue his mate punched me in the face from the side, thinking I'd hit his mate FFS...
Above everyone!!!
Superb and well produced... Led Zeppelin was my introduction to rock music as I entered high school and they, in turn, introduced me to their influences over the subsequent years as I entered radio in my junior year and worked in broadcasting until 1993. I made a brief return for two full years (almost to the day, 2001-2002) in what had become the classic rock format. By then, everything had changed in both radio and artists. I thoroughly enjoyed your documentary. Well done, for the "family tree" of various bands and others within the music industry was incredibly intertwined back in those days and this shines a bit of light upon those relationships that many might not be familiar with.
Nah, tuned out at that opening. I’m not watching something I can’t finish.
Smart man. I wasted 14 minutes if my life watching this
I've read Hammer Of The Gods and lots of other Zep books but the Spitz book(which I'm currently reading) is certainly my favorite. Delves much more into the music process than HOTG yet it also includes all the other behind the scenes and on the stage tidbits.
Hammer Of The Gods was Cole's pathetic money grab after he was sacked by the band.
@@mattrogers1946 Cole didn't write HOTG. It was written by Stephen Davis. Cole WAS however a primary "source". He did however write his own book about 20 years ago. I read it but remember little about it.
@@Chrisdrumz Have to agree, mostly, with Matt here. Cole was, as I understood HOTG's, the main writer behind the book. And tho, from what I've read about what Page and Plant said about the book, it was somewhat truthful and accurate, but exaggerated. Who knows? Who really cares? All that will matter to posterity is Led Zeppelin's music.
@@samr.england613 The contrast between HOTG and Spitz' book is striking. HOTG is mid 80's schlock for the most part. It has it's moments but Spitz' book is thoroughly enjoyable and knowledge filled.
@@Chrisdrumz I'm enthralled, and will check out Spitz's book. But, emphatically, all that's ever to going to matter, to posterity, is Zeppelin's music.
I dont care what others call Led Zeppelin.....for me they were MONSTERS....bigger than life!!!!
I loved it when people claimed that their incredible wealth and fame was the result of signing, in blood, a contract with Satan! (You know, selling their souls to the Evil One in exchange for wealth and fame.) For years I've pointed out that, if all it took to be that rich and famous was to sign a deal with the Devil, then there'd be a whole lot more Led Zeppelin's out there! hehe
Or, maybe Satan only wants to buy the souls of truly talented people.
Well...if that were the case Zep would be the Devil by itself.@@samr.england613
Mary. You have to understand how important FM radio was in North America during the 70's. FM was vital to bands like Zep. The DJ's were part of the magic sauce and its such a shame that crap like Spotify et al have taken over...especially when it was free...
After the internet Itunes and all that it seems like my culture from 70s to early 2000s is over,.
The talent pool was deep for on-air personalities around Los Angeles during the superstation era - KMET , KLOS (KABC), KROQ, KNAC, KPPC, etc. Prior to FM underground , local AM Top 40 stations and their Boss Jocks ruled the roost.
~~ sadly the FM radio of the early 70's - with it's freewheeling style - playing deep cuts - and even entire records - gave way to the late 70's - with it's soulless, corporate drone of predictable playlists and then the great DJ's mostly faded away - MTV took over the 80's - then the 90's gave us concert ticket prices a thousand times higher than the 70's - even when adjusted for inflation ..
Mary thats a fantastic presentation. Thank you...
Csn I suggest gary moore as a suitable subject for your consideration?
I'll never forget what Ginger Baker said of John Bohnam; " He couldn't swing a bag of shit!". Obviously, he was referring to his supposed lack of swing on the drums.
But then again that's Ginger Baker for you. I have never been blown away by Ginger Baker's drumming. Being an opinionated asshole doesn't make you a great musician or a drummer.
@@andyhinds542 ~~ Ginger was very good at what he did - which was much different than what Bonham did - but Baker was not only known to verbally tear others down - he would start a barroom brawl at the drop of a hat - so he was willing to back up his opinions - right or wrong - with his blood & guts - the man was a true maniac ..
Zep's first album is closer to WWI than it is to today.
Mathematically yes, but culturally no. There was a massive cultural watershed in the 60s with pop, the Pill and penicillin.
No more monsters than anyone else would be in that position - if they had had the talent.
First saw LZ on Long Island, NY in 1971.
Still the loudest concert to date.
Left awestruck and never to forget.
Saw them again at Madison Square Garden 2 nites in a row for their Physical tour.
Years later I met Eddie Kramer at a studio I managed in Hempstead NY.
It was like meeting a god....
Never again will I be rocked by music like Led Zep did to me back then....
Rock Gods or Monsters? They were human just like any of us mere mortals. Big fan of Sir James Patrick Page (OBE).
SIR Jimmy? When did that happen?
A fan of his music, sure. Personally I find it hard to be a fan of him as a person considering how he took advantage of his fame to get away with both immoral and illegal activity. At around 29 years old he had a girlfriend who was 14 then. Now he dates a woman 46 years younger than him. And he's just one of many who somehow got away with this.
@@stevekubien6680 2005
@@athmaid Yep. Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, Bill Wyman, Anthony Kiedis, Steve Tyler, Iggy Pop, Ted Nugent, Johnny Thunders and possibly David Bowie, Mick Jagger and the rest of the Stones, Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley, Mickey Finn and Marc Bolan, Alice Cooper, Randy California, Gary Puckett, Marvin Gaye, The rest of the NY Dolls, AC/DC, Mike Patto, Rod Stewart, ZZ Top, Donovan, Lemmy, Eric Clapton, Knack.
And on top of that songs like Red Hot Chili Peppers' Catholic School Girls, Rod Stewart's Hey Little School Girl, Patto's Hold Me Back, Rolling Stone's Stray Cat Blues, Kiss' Christeen Sixteen and Going Blind, ZZ Top's Francine, Beach Boys' Hey Little Tomboy, AC/DC's Love At First Feel, The Police's Don't Stand So Close To Me, Ted Nugent's Jailbait, The Knack's My Sharona, Donovan's Mellow Yellow, Gary Puckett's Young Girl and Motorhead's Jailbait, Eric Clapton's Jailbait and god knows how many more.
I know I can't just assume it, but I personally have been rendered genuinely paranoid of how many more musicians (mainly in the rock field) from the 50s to 90s were up to didley shit or abused their power in some way. Sucks especially with me being into a lot of music from those eras.
@@athmaid Pagey also avid Crowley lover.....
I was good friends with Jimmy Page's first girlfriend's granddaughter's niece, and she used to tell me stories about this dog in the neighborhood that was the second litter of Jimmy's grandmother's Dalmatians puppies that worked in a firehouse near where Eric Clapton's hairdresser's lawyer lived. Just goes to show you, 10 Degrees of Separation, you know what I mean?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant!
Lucky for me: the first half of music documentaries are always the most interesting. I enjoyed this.
Mary,
This was really interesting. Thanks for putting this together and sharing it. 😎
It was the 70s, it was a different time. It was the beginning of a time where Musicians could actually make good money in music, and they had a Manager, Peter Grant who made sure they weren't being ripped off, which was strange in that time in Music. It's not surprising that a bunch of musicians, mostly in their 20s, with all the money in the world, lead lives of excess. Especially back then when you didn't have all the social media pressure to behave.
People just didn't know what to do with all that money all of a sudden
The 70's WERE epic Rock years. Lived it.
70s rock is garbage
I very much loved that period of musical history, learned to play guitar and idolized all these bands as a young man. I heard many of them did sketchy things but didn't think about it much and also wrote it off as hype. Now as a more mature person, I can't help but to be disgusted by the debauchery among many celebrities, politicians and wealthy people. I've come to realize much more about evil in this world.
Thanks Mary! Signed up as well!
Excellent (as usual) ! I love the way it was put together.
Everyone should watch "The song remains the same" ..... then you'll "get" what Zeppelin is about. I love that film ever since I was a teen.
I remember watching it in a movie theatre. We were blown away!
The surround sound along with full size visuals. My friends and I, must have watched that
over 100 times!
That’s all we had until Jimmy Page released that double DVD of live material. I still cannot make it through the 20 minute drum solo on Disc 1. I liked Disc 2 because it had various performances.
What are they about other than ripping off other musicians
...when the Twin Towers appeared, the only time they appeared,.. at the start of Stairway'...a shiver ran down my back. The stairways ultimately became exactly that.. for those still trapped inside, stairways to heaven...
@@recvehicle8888 They did take the Jeff Beck Groups’s sound and run with it, claiming it as their own. Plant also sang like Steve Marriott until he found his own voice, which was feminine and finally masculine by 1979.
Jeff Beck lived in Wallington about 7 miles from Epsom where Jimmy Page and Glyn Johns lived which in turn is about eleven miles from Ripley where Eric Clapton lived.
Bell Musical Instruments, where Eric Clapton bought his first guitar, now a restaurant, just behind my house.
Very good account of the formation and evolution of a key band who changed not just music but the nature of rock fame and rock management.
Well done, Mary! The content is awesome
Page & the boys embraced the idea that live music was to be a show, a spectacle... They weren't even the first (or even best?) but they were the first to embrace it holistically/band context... "Putting the Show into showbusiness"...
"Method acting" when (especially @ a young age) when the "Act" becomes their 'normalozed reality'?
- cinema & TV has lots of these stories (wrecked childhood actors...).
Love this style of video! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 cool cool cool! Great job! Thanks for your hard work on this 😉
Besides the options Mary offers at the beginning of the video, here in Southern California, the DJ's especially Jim Ladd and BMR, only referred to them as The Mighty Led Zepplin.
To answer your thumbnail question, without doubt, a simple-yet-complex combination of BOTH!..
The authorized documentary 'Becoming Led Zeppelin' STILL hasn't found a distributor. A work in progress version was screened in September 2021 at the Venice Film Festival and Jimmy Page, himself, was there...Now?...Crickets...
Ok. My head is spinning from all the names..historical and current..all the renowned musicians surfaced to tell a story. I have loved Led Zeppelin for 50 years. I still love their music. I still feel a need to protect them when others degrade them. This intro vid is nice. I could relax and listen. I need to now hear the whole story. Ok Nebula...now you've got my attention. Thanks, MS. 👍
It really doesn't matter what anyone says about Led Zeppelin. Their music speaks for itself, and that's all our posterity will care about: The Music!
I have always loved Led Zeppelin, John Bonham died when i was 15, before i had a chance to see them live, i think i might have cried. The closest i got was watching The Song Remains the Same in quadraphonic sound on the big screen. Absolutely mesmerising. I had every album, of course, and loved them all. Their live stuff absolutely rocked. My favourite studio track, very hard choice, i think, is Ten Years Gone.
i was 15 too or 14 but anyway i think i recall a group of us were planning to go to a show scheduled at madison square garden that year but his death put the kibosh on that .
Died the same year and from the same cause as Bon Scott
Most excellent documentary and treatment of THE GREATEST ROCK BAND, EVER! It so cool that nearly 60 years later they still have a growing fanbase, and people such as yourself do a great job shining their light to new listeners. Keep it up.
I first heard them via LZ II in the summer of 1969 when my brother came home for college Summer Break. I was all of nine years old and I found "my" music. My friends and I collected their albums as they were released and we saw them in concert in 1975 and 1977. Good times, indeed!
LZ II was released in October of 1969. That's when I got into LZ at the age of 14.
Keith Moon said "that'll go down like a lead balloon". John Entwistle replied "more like a lead zeppelin". Why does no one ever tell this story correctly?
Funny she got this wrong because it's well documented.
I would say based on I was around at the rise of Led Zeppelin they created music that will never be forgotten also fame and fortune does affect people differently but there music says it and also the fact that three founding members are alive and well they have given awards to numerous to mention and at 67 years old my ringtone on my phone is Kashmir
Good choice of ringtone.
I'd be lucky to name 2 LZ songs, and I'm 58. Just saying many of us think differently.
Mine's Whole Lotta Love 😍
Your insight from being there in the '70s and knowing everything about everything is astonishing. You must be a very content person.
Thanks for sharing Mary. I found it very interesting.
Not a fan of this 2 part paywall model
Shouldn't care that much about some random persons opinion to sit through the first half anyway
Lemme rephrase this for you:
“Give me what I want for free because you owe it to me for nothing because I have been conditioned to assign no monetary value to creativity and content. Despite you putting days of effort at a time into these videos, built off the back of years of hard work getting to this point, even in the face of poor, increasingly unpredictable revenue on TH-cam, which your livelihood hangs in the balance of, give it to me for nothing”
Support her on her platform of choice or don’t, but think before you post.
You've made one comment on this channel. Mary Spender's making videos for fans, not random incels on the internet. Move on.
@@rorybninetythree Or let's put it another way. I'm 74 years old and supporting two people on the fixed income of Social Security and simply can't afford the extravagance of exclusive video content at a price. TH-cam is the best I, and a lot of other people, can do and, frankly, I'd rather not be fed teaser videos like this as part of a sales pitch to get me to spend money.
@@Stratocus so because of your situation, every creator should make ‘extravagant’ content at a loss for the benefit of all? beyond your own point of view, consider the systemic problems of platforms like TH-cam that might have caused this situation, rather than the creators themselves. My sympathies to you, I believe that education should be free and open, but we conflate education with media and the costs associated in its production, and we don’t unfortunately live in a world where artists can create exactly the art they want to and support themselves by giving it away for nothing. It is systemic; TH-cam’s revenue model, content moderation policies, greed of its centralised billionaire owners who do NOT care about you or the welfare of the creators that generate ad revenue for them, so they’re forced away. It isnt a huge ask to say “hey, TH-cam isn’t working out for me, but I’m over here trying to shift away from this broken unsustainable model”. Best wishes, I hope we can all get to utopia one day, I personally don’t think late capitalism will be in the picture like it is now though. If you’re ever getting something for free, remember you are the product.
LOVED THIS, MARY. GREAT JOB. Nebula sounds amazing.
Well I never knew those four travelled up to my fair city together to see such blues legends!
First album, first song: GTBT. It was as apparent as a massive head-on collision and if anything else changed Rock drumming overnight. Jimmy’s production skills shone brightly with this first record. It’s’ crisp sound set it apart from everything else coming out of London in early 1969. Jimmy had caught lightning in the bottle with this group I think it’s safe to say!
Headline asks a question, then proceeds to give a history that everyone has heard....no thanks
Exactly!
I saw Plant and Page in concert in 1997 (Walking into Clarksdale tour) l------------------Rock Gods....definitely.
Most forget that the Beatles by 1965 had 140 paternity suits against them from dozens and dozens of families of pregnant teens. All settled out of court. Elvis' wife was 14, Jerry Lee Lewis wife, 2nd cousin, 14. Dinosaurs maybe. But it was the culture of the time. You cannot criticize culture as it is always progressing at it's own pace.
Robert came out and said,.."Listen....the record company made us sign a contract that we must play at least 3 songs from the new album...........let's get them done quickly and get on to the real show!" After the 3rd song........The drummer went straight into ROCK AND ROLL and we were on a 2.5 hour straight Led Zeppelin show. I know Gonzo and JPJ were not there, but it was still magical. l was the guy staring at Jimmy's fingers on the big screen, trying to see what he was doing. I had been playing guitar for a couple years and hadn't gotten into Zep yet (Clapton unplugged, Beatle song books with chord diagrams only, and the Black Crowes/SRV). But I was blown away at how these two guys around 60 years old still had the touch. It took Robert a song or two to get his voice warmed up to 70s standards, but he did it.
@@mikefetterman6782 They weren't 60 on that album geez 😂. That would make them almost 90 now.
What a fabulous piece and thank you so much for doing it
I'm an old geezer but I've been a fan of great rock music since the '60s and was an avid follower of British rock from the get-go. I had subscriptions to all the trades and rock and roll papers including from Britain during that period so I was indoctrinated in the personnel. The Yardbirds were always one of my favorites right after the who and when they had the Exodus of personnel and a new group called The New Yardbirds came along with Robert plant and JPJ I saw their initial video before they turned it into led Zeppelin. Love that album and truthfully the weekend after Woodstock I saw zep open for the who and guess who was working the boards? Glyn Johns. It was a truly spectacular show. The two bands clearly were competing and it was just totally amazing.
Not even halfway through this TH-cam piece and I've already learned a lot more about British rock from you and that takes a ton of insight so you are truly creating a feeling of gratitude for this excellent piece
Thanks for the info on Nebula. I signed up.
Since Zeppelin have been my favourite band for more than 50 years. I first heard them on John Peel, and immediately saved up to buy the first album. Then I saw them live at Shepton Mallet in 1970, and Earls Court in 1975. By far the best rock band I have seen live! Plant is still my favourite rock singer, and he still has the voice and tours. Magic.
I enjoyed this segment of the doc, so you finally sold me. I have ordered Bob's book, and signed up to Nebula! I would like to have paid for the Lifetime account, but since I am now 73 and a pensioner, I have joined the Annual sub crew. I'm going to watch on my TV. I will have to work out how to cast it. If not I will just run a long lead from my laptop.
I've always liked the professional way you approach your work. Take care and keep up the good work.
After my dad ended his tour in Vietnam he was stationed in Petaluma, CA. My dad was on duty one night and he was listening to a FM radio station. FM was like pirate radio, they were more likely to play harder music. He said the woman disc jockey had a "friend" with her. If you have ever seen WKRP In Cincinnati, it was like when Venus was on duty with a female companion. Anyways, she goes I have a friend here listen to this. She played Led Zeppelin II side one. She came back on the a the end of side one, said the guy with her was blowing her mind, and played side two. He said you never heard anything like it. He actually still has Zep II & III on cassette.
On a funny note, I first heard Zeppelin on Beavis and Butthead.
Excellent format, more please Mary.
Lots of work went into this video! Thanks
Loved the video clip. Great job as always, Mary. I just started my subscription to Nebula, thank you for the discount. Now looking forward to watching your complete documentary (and many more!). 🙂
Thank you, Mary Spender, for putting this together. Fascinating.
Love Led Zep for the music, and hate them for, unlike the Rolling Stones, not giving the song credits to so many of the blues artists they stole songs from and claimed as their own.
If you did a little research before posting, you'd discover those old blues guys ripped off each other long before any of the guys in Zeppelin were even born....
Great vid and some good deets. I like the fact that you upfront cite Spitz's book, interview him in the doc, and give a link to buy. Might check out Nebula if there's more stuff like this. I'm not a fan of rock gods in general - I LOVE some Zepelin tracks, and like what Plant has done in recent years, esp cos he seems pretty humble, but I never dug into the whole 70s excess thing.
I had read that LZ was not as they were publicly represented. Since some of them were married, they put out stories of sex and groupies that were false. Supposedly they simply just went back to their hotels and got some much needed sleep after their concerts. Anyway, that’s what I read and I have no idea if it’s true or not. I did meet a woman who was president of the Colorado LZ fan club. She met Plant personally and said he was a real gentleman. She had photos in her home.
Then you need to read the book written by their road manager for practically their entire existence, Richard Cole. His book, 'Stairway to Heaven; Led Zeppelin uncensored'.....they were far worse than anything I ever imagined....quite disgusting, actually.
@@ilguitaro That book has been said to have been highly exaggerated due to Cole being recently canned by LZ at that time. Not like he's going to be nice about anything.
@@cobrakai9969 Well he didn't get sued.....
These Rock'n'Roll Geniuses, can be a Gentleman all day long, and can be rockin' 'till the break of day, with someone else. Yes, it's that complicated.
@@ilguitaro you mean the heroin addict that ripped them off for 200k? Maybe some of that book was true but ulterior motives abound.
Mary, I'm seriously considering this Nebula thing...I despise cable TV and Netflix and most of my entertainment comes from youtube but I also despise their censorship and political pandering (I pay to not have be assaulted with their ads as well)....gonna check it out - plus, I'd love to see the content you don't post here - thanks ❤
I just watched Mary’s documentary on Nebula. She did a fantastic job balancing the Art vs. Artist question. In the “Fall” part of the story, one could say it was a different time but as she points out, there was NO TIME that treating people as less then human and with unrestrained violence was OK or acceptable. It sounds like substance abuse coupled an endless supply of money and no consequences allowed them to be their worse possible selves.
@@ScottJakes Oh, so she's just grifting then.
The Fall part is, their drummer died and decided to not play without him.
If ur not a fan of cable why would u want online cable
The thing about Led Zeppelin that made them such a great band was the fact that you had 4 very fine musicians with totally different personalities come together to create music that has stood the test of time. Like all bands they had their high points and low points, but they stuck with their formula throughout their carrier as a band and losing John Bonham upset that formula. It could never be the same again and they all knew it. In this case they made the right decision to disband when they did because a key piece of them was now gone and it could not be easily replaced by just any drummer. The Who was another example of this. When they lost Keith Moon they lost a presence they simply could not easily replace but tried to carry on anyways. Sometimes it is better to just let it fade into the sunset and let the legacy of the music speak for itself.
I was lucky to see their Starship parked on the tarmac at Miami International in the early 70's. Wow it was Unbelievable to see. Really cool looking plane.
Most excellent work Mary, 🎼🙏💗 Thank You
Even in 2024, this is Led Zeppelin's world. We're just part of it.
Mary, your voice is priceless. Thanks for doing what you do. Beautiful work.
There's actually a "crossroads" in Gothenburg, Sweden... right across from 'Liseberg'amusement park where the trams converge...
i'll probably sign up in a few days . . . just to watch this Led Zeppelin rock-u-mentary. Thought I'd just comment a little bit here.
I feel like I've never watched a Led Zeppelin documentary - which is a little weird for me. I remember Robert Plant was doing these great youtube interviews, once a week or month just a few years ago. I couldn't keep up with it! But, Led Zeppelkin and the British Blues/Rock scene was a big part of my life. I went down that rabbit hole and straight into the Black American Blues.
I'd almost hate to write a whole pamphlet here; but, I went down the British Blues/Rock rabbit hole when the Doors movie came out. By the time Mtv stopped playing 24 hours Doors music, I was gone to the British Blues/Rock scene - Cream/Led Zeppelin you name it.
Obviously, I started with the Doors, but I soon found my father's Led Zeppelin vinyl records. Well, at first, Led Zeppelin was actually too bluesy for me. Outside of the obvious stuff like Stairway to Heaven, i couldn't exactly get into them. I then dived into his Beatles for awhile. I binged on the Beatles for awhile actually! But, then! I found my father's John Mayall's Bluesbreaker's collection, and I've been there ever since really. I like to say that John Mayall and John Lee Hooker are my two main guys. I've of course explored lots of music and musicians since then. But, John Mayall and John Lee Hooker will always be my base!
Then, after really listening and absorbing John Mayall . . .and Cream, Blind Faith, then I came back to Led Zeppelin - and binged on Led Zeppelin for awhile.
Well, this is about Led Zeppelin, so I guess I can stop here. But, I've gone all the way down to the beginning of the Blues - past Charlie Patton. I almost admire Charlie Patton more than Robert Johnson. I know of Sylvester Weaver.
Well, on the rock-u-mentary's, and never really seeing a Led Zeppelin documentary, I've watched a lot of Black American blues documentaries. I have watched John Mayall documentaries(more than one) and even some General British Blues/Rock documentaries. I've seen multiple general blues documentaries on youtubes, and artist specific documentaries that turn out to give a good idea of the blues in general at the same time - for some reason Blind Willie Mctell documentary comes to mind. I guess It's been awhile.
I discovered Sister Rosetta Tharpe from a video of Muddy Waters doing a concert in Britain, and he brought out Sister Rosetta Tharpe. I was like "where did he dig this big lady from?" I mean some women I somehow never heard of that can play! I immediately googled her and went through her discography and all.
I loved finding and watching a ton of Blues documentaries. But, I never thought I'd read a whole book. I noticed you read a book for this. Well, I found this one book. I was in my local town library and waiting my turn for the internet. I sat in the bookstacks(on the floor). And, I looked up, and my eyes fell on this one book title - the Delta Blues. I shook my head and said "that's crazy; read a whole book on the Blues." My main book reading is science and mathematics. Reading and studying music seemed odd to me(I'm starting to want to at least get comfortable with the guitar . . . and maybe even the harmonica). Well, I read the intro or preface of this book, and I knew "this was going to be good." I thoroughly enjoyed this book. I had already found a good amount of blues artists from a Ragtime Dorian Henry on youtube. But, this book really helped me dig out everybody else. I haven't seen anybody point out a great blues artists to me that I don't already know since then.
The book is "The Delta Blues" from Ted Gioia. He might even still be around. He was the last time I googled him.
Besides helping me find all kinds of great obscure blues musicians - like Frank Stokes and King Solomoan Hill - Ted'd chapter on John Lee Hooker is what got me to decide to check him out. Before then, I thought he was some later era country acoustic blues singer that maybe wasn't that good at guitar.
I mean, when I was looking for acoustic blues guitar artists, I was looking for Robert Johnson or earlier era guys - like Son House. Anything later than 1930, I assumed must not be significant or interesting. And, I heard people saying "he plays a simple two chord's over and over again." It can never be further from the truth!
He's a great blues singer for one. We're talking like Buddy Guy powerful. As good as anyone. And, he can get up and down the fret board. He combines blues and boogie woogie. He does a ton of creative mixing and matching of blues chords and structures. In fact, he's one of the most "breaking of the rules" on the music theory of the blues as anyone.
His discography is also one of the hardest to find and get through. But, I've done it. I've got a whole John Lee Hooker "best of." I'vew got "best of" of every great blues artist from Sylvester weaver up through the 70s.
I guess I though I'd try to get you interested in Ted Gioia's book! And I thought I'd go off about rock-u-mentaries and music books to read. So, I went off a little bit on beyond just Led Zeppelin. Now, I'll probably watch a few Led Zeppelin documentaries!
God I love your voice. You could make a documentary about the rise of toilet paper and I would be enthralled the whole time.
Seriously though... I'm loving this. Led Zeppelin is an amazing group that are forever icons
It seems you have fallen into the trap of being the poorly informed critical hack producing clickbait rather than being an original creator of meaningful content. You may be judging yourself by your intentions but the world will judge you by your actions. Try sticking to subjects you know through first hand experience and leave the clickbait and hearsay alone.
Thank you Mary ! ! ! ! a great and succinct telling.
Two brief stories. Winter/Spring season in New England 1969 ..... Whilst driving my old '63 VW bug from Boston down highway I 95 to Fairfield County, Ct, an early college underground NEW then, FM radio station in the Boston area played all of Revolver and Beck-ola and Becks Bolero all in their entirety and back to back with out interruption. The fact that it was 9pm and a hard globby snowstorm on a dangerous night for driving didn't bother me a bit, as I'm sure you can imagine how well the old windshield wipers were working. Your claim of how and where it all started was see by a few even then. I was in Heaven momentarily.
Same Year, a month or two later, the LONG awaited and much anticipated LedZep 1st record came out. A NYC radio ( WNEW ? ) station had promised, for weeks, a good listen. They somehow had wrangled one copy, if not the very first copy of it in North America. Then they played it straight through completely, only interrupting enough to flip it over and say, here's side two. Amazing ! Still Dazed and Confused.
If you like Led Zeppelin-you likely know some history and know their music. If you don't and need some woman that just discovered them to guide you through what she is learning and leaving you with a real "teaser" to be continued on her pay channel... you will love this.
I started playing guitar and bass in the 60's and like many was into the Heavy Rock as we called it then of Hendrix and Cream. To make money I worked in a record shop they hired me whenever I needed some work. So I heard all the new music and a lot more. Led Zeppelin's first album really got everyone's attention bands I worked with and customers at the record shop. Then Led Zeppelin second album and the excitement continued. For me and my musician buddies we started getting more serious about music and widening what we listened to as we split into some with songwriting focus and others studio musician ambitions. If not for the record store I would of stopped listening to Led Zeppelin and similar bands like Deep Purple. I started teaching guitar and got me listening to Led Zeppelin because students wanted to learn some of their songs. So I was never a Jimmy Page fan, but I was a huge Jeff Beck fan a far better guitarist and more musicially minded. To me the best musician in Led Zeppelin was John Bonham, but later on I got into John Paul Jones and his bass playing and other musical skills and realize Jones and Bonham were the secret sauce that made Led Zeppelin work. Still today as an old fart still not a Led Zeppelin or Jimmy Page fan. It was interesting to find out that Beck and Page both early on play Chet Atkins style guitar. Then reading another interview with Beck he said he and Page both took guitar lesson for now Jazz legend John McLaughlin. Then Beck says never bring up Page's name to John McLaughlin he hate the Page, they did not get along back then or now. So Mary you want to do a deeper dive on Led Zeppelin dig into John Paul Jone he really is the secret sauce of Zeppelin pulls it all together in my opinion.
I started learning to play bass guitar a couple years ago and since then, every song I listen to, I focus on the bass line. JPJ bass playing was so strong, really the backbone of LZ but also the great drumming is a stand out. Page was very good but sloppy and inconsistently. Plant’s not the best singer but very unique. If you get a chance, listen to Cream’s Jack Bruce. Ginger Baker was among the best too.
What rhythm section is not the secret sauce to any successful band?
I never heard Hendrix or Cream or The Who, before I heard Led Zeppelin. I did not listen to Top 40 Radio. And I didn't know about FM Underground radio. But listening to LZ II in October of 1969 changed my 14 year old life.
@@HardRockMaster7577 Did you catch up on the other artists?
From what I remember reading he said “It would go over like a lead balloon“ onto which, later on JP (to prove that it WOULD work) used it in the band’s name. That was very cool of him! Go Jimmy!
Keith Moon said to Jimmy Page, about his idea of a high energy blues band, he said, ". . .That'll go over like a lead zeppelin. . ." so Jimmy used the name.
I'd always heard that the comment was that it would go over like a "Lead Balloon" too. A lead Zeppelin wasn't a well known saying.
The synchronicity of exposure to good music and the emerging technology of electrification and amplification deserves some credit, without denying the talent of knowing what to do with it.
I like this...very well done...narration seems to suit you very well!
Led Zeppelin, I am unashamedly a Ledphile. I will unapologetically tell everyone in the room to all rise for the national anthem whenever Stairway comes on. I'm fixing to be 51 and even after all these decades ( I really didn't discover them until about 86 when I stole my uncle's Zeppelin II album.) when I think they've become passe' or maybe I've overrated them: I sit turn the speakers up to piss off the neighbors off levels. Then there it is again and I have to stop and say goddamn that's fire. Zoso...
There was always a dark side to legendary bands and artists... Led Zeppelin's problems were well-documented even before they broke up... Jimmy Page's affair w/ a 14 yr old girl (He wasn't the only one in the 70's doing this) and his fascination w/ black magic ... Manager Peter Grant making threats against anyone who dared challenge him, which led to his arrest in 1977... John Bonham's propensity for alcohol and violent outbursts... Robert Plant's appetite for affairs while he was married...
Even The Beatles, the biggest band of all time... famous for their clean image... were embroiled w/ alcohol and drugs behind the scenes. That was very apparent during the 70's, when all 4 (McCartney, Lennon, Harrison and Starr) had their legal troubles and struggles w/ addiction... The torrid affairs that they all had (Only Paul McCartney had kept his personal life and marriage in order)
We have to reconcile the fact that our musical heroes were human and imperfect... They all had their issues, struggles and demons to contend with, while they were so publicly exposed... One of the reasons Oasis became so popular in the UK was because they were everything The Beatles were not and never hid their vices (Or couldn't hide them from the media... not that they tried!)
Musicians do the things that many of us find rather distasteful... But their music was the truly pure part of them that they expressed as their art... and they were obviously very good at it. What they were not good at often was being a wholesome human being.
Beethoven was a brilliant composer of classical music... but he was a vile person because of the torment, abuse and circumstances that were inflicted upon him as a child. That didn't taint the work he did... His music was truly sonic majesty and beauty... but came from a terribly flawed human being.
If it wasn't for Peter Grant Led Zep wouldn't have got paid for half their gigs. The whole music business was/is corrupt and Grant did what was necessary to deal with the a$$holes trying to rip them off.
@@nealm1814 Of course, Peter Grant deserves credit where due... But he did go too far ultimately and it ended up hurting Led Zeppelin in later years.
Demanding 90% of ticket revenue... not paying opening acts at Knebworth in 1979... After the Oakland incident in 1977, promoter Bill Graham blacklisted Led Zeppelin... he decided that 10% was not worth the mayhem they brought w/ them (Their crew... their entourage) and Led Zeppelin would never tour extensively ever again after Robert Plant's son's tragic death.
From Led Zep 4 I was a devotee of this incredible band. A very good minidocumentary.
Saw this great band 176 times '70 to '77. You'll never know the fame they have.
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So you should a book about what you saw.
Monsters of rock!
Good, clickbait-y title, but absolutely nothing new said here
You know R.P. tweeted me one time. We had a nice conversation. But I am a big legged woman and I have a soul! I love them. Jimmy Page aligned with me energetically. We share a Japanese connection.
OK, after many years of seeing ads for Nebula, you've just sold me a subscription :)
Can't find any original topics to make a video about other than a band that hasn't been together in almost 45 years? I'm guessing you pick legacy bands and entertainers to make videos about so you'll get clicks. How creative of you!
Lots of artists were guilty of the same thing. George Harrison, John Lennon, and The Beach Boys all were, too. What about that case against Ed Sheeran? That was far more blatant than the one you mentioned. Randy California's family was solely in it for the money. Those two songs sound nothing alike.
Obviously monster rock gods.
Brilliant Job!!! #MaryBigSpender and #BobSpitz
Love the video very interesting as I don’t know much about the band but watching this I now have learned a lot🙂 Will you one day do a documentary on Iron Maiden as in my opinion they have the most interesting band members with bruce having a long list of remarkable achievements under his belt alone and they have influenced so many over the years I think you would have fun with it
Mary, you clearly aren't old enough to have seen them. The late 60's and 70's was dominated by a number of outstanding musically unique bands. Led Zepplin was clearly one of a kind and their live shows were unbelievable! I was lucky to see them 3 times. Every time a new album was released it became the center of attention. Since #4 was released at the end of 1971 I can't recall not hearing a LZ song at least one a year.