In my videos I compare the 3.5 EcoBoost to the 2.7 liter EcoBoost. Both engines have their advantages and are great in different ways. Comment below! Thanks for watching! Instagram: / seanstokes22
@@DS-TRUCKS About 2 or 3 weeks ago I had a 2016 Xl my family is growing the I had a 6 foot bed and the smaller cab. My son no longer fit so I saw this at a shop I use to work at. But I notice is kind of jumps when when going from 2-3 on the 10 speed and I though that was odd. Didn’t feel on the test drive. So I came to on TH-cam to see if that was normal and stumbled on your channel
Great video. I ordered my 2022 F150 Lariat in December, and it’s being shipped to my dealer now! I got the 2.7EB not so much for the efficiency, but also a few other reliability factors; one that nobody ever seems to mention when comparing this to the 3.5EB is the external water pump. With the 3.5EB, the water pump is inside the cap, so if it starts to weep, you get water in your oil which gets pumped to the turbos and every other place in the engine. With the 2.7EB, the water pump is easily replaceable without removing the front cap, and no real possibility of water contaminating the oil lines exists. I’ll be putting a catch can on as well, just to help minimize the likelihood of low-speed preignition which is often thought to be partially caused by blow-by in the PCV system. Awesome content! Thank you.
Just bought a used ‘18 f150 with the 2.7 32K mikes and I’ve always been a V8 guy but this motor absolutely blew me away!!! Mine is going in Tuesday because my oil pan looks wet and I still have a little left under the factory powertrain warranty so I figured get everything/anything fixed before it ends… Great video, glad I found your channel and love seeing another passionate ford fan!! Keep up the incredible work 👍
Thanks for posting the video, Glad to hear that the engine has dual fuel injection to help clean the carbon on the intake valves,,, it seems to be a real issue with regular direct injection engines. Just got a 2021 F-150 lariat 502A package (2.7 Liter engine), I receive it in 2 weeks
I have the 2021 STX 2.7 super cab. I commute so not more than 90% highway miles after 7k miles I average ongoing 25.5 to 26.0 mpg. Great power. A pleasure to drive. Amazing that they managed such efficiency; power and mpg. I get only 28 mpg on my 2.0 ecoboost 2017 for the exact same commute.
I love my 1st gen 15 f150 supercrew sport with the 2.7L. I have mine edge tuned, banks pedal monster, moshimoto oil catch cans and a banks cold air intake and mine screams even with a front leveling kit and 35's on stock wheels. I only have 38k miles on mine too. I will have it till I die.
I have had one for three months . The 2.7 is a great motor . I drove a 2011 with a 5.0 in it and was reserved about the small engine. I can’t say enough about how please I am with the 2.7 it’s a beast and gets great fuel mileage if you keep your foot out of it and drive it in eco mode
Dude I just got one day before yesterday. Same as you, 2018 STX 4x4 with a 2.7L. Mine is magma red. That's the dark almost wine color. My last truck was a 2006 xlt. I drove that truck for 15 years before my wife bought me this one.
I have the 2018 2.7L ecoboost and I love it. Almost bought a catch can but after much research, seemed unnecessary with the direct and multi port injectors. Only thing negative is I can get a little heat soak when I first drive it which causes a little power loss with the turbo lag. Very nice looking trucks! Also found if you flash your high beams you can get the mileage on your dash without having to use the keys. Comes in handy during oil changes.
Thanks for the great explanation. This summer I'm buying a 2021 F150 XLT 2.7L Ecoboost with the 302a package and Sport appearance package in Rapid Red. I can't wait!
I've been researching for a new F150 for a while now. Just can't afford one, but I can dream for free. Anyways, I've been that typical "gotta have a V8" guy. Not because that's what a truck should always have, but more so on the topic of less components make the engine more reliable. There are also a few videos out there asking Ford Techs which engine they'd rather have, and the 5.0L always comes out on top. Thankfully, they're starting to ask why. Exhaust note, "because it's a truck", and other menial things mean nothing to me in terms of being a user. The folks who have supported the 2.7L have been thorough and I can relate to their usages: Family hauler, weekend projects, occasional tow of a trailer, around town driving, and some highway use. Nothing but good things to say. Then, I've found a few good review videos of the engine, and even in this video, there's the mention of the cast exhaust manifolds, which I think is not only clever, but makes everything a bit more reliable. If you're like me, wanting a truck that'll haul your family around, pick up stuff at Lowe's, haul a small trailer very rarely (although the truck is more than capable of pulling a decent sized travel trailer camper), this engine seems to be the best fit for all. Even better that it's the standard option on the Lariat trims.
TFL actually hauled max tow rating on the 2.7 (and 3.5 because they have identical tow ratings) up the IKE and it didn't break a sweat, and, actually got up the IKE a few seconds quicker than the 3.5. probably because it doesn't need to suck in so much air to work because lower displacement up at 10-11K feet. It also gives you peak torque sooner and keeps it up longer than both 3.5 and 5.0... It's a stout little engine that has more bite than bark. And I'm a V8 only kind of guy but the 2.7 seems to break that mold a bit.
I own the same 2020 STX 2.7 supercrew truck... outstanding!!! Love the 36gal fuel tank... in deep snow make a lot of difference in 2WD.. don't need to hit 4WD much
The block skirt has cross-members built into it for extreme rigidity and smooth performance. I waited several years to see where this motor would fail, but never saw anything that gave me pause. I've had mine three years now and love , love, love it! ZERO turbo lag, and a mountain of torque. Milage can suffer with the 4 wheel version and the STX 20" wheels, combined with a heavy foot. With about the same or more power than a Cleveland 351, I'll take the 16 MPG's!
My stock 2018 F-150 FX4 Regular Cab SWB 2.7L 10-Speed 3.55:1 24,500 miles and I’ve only installed a new battery, no leaks, no problems at all. 0-60 = 5.9 Seconds ¼ mile = 14.4 Seconds 93 Octane G-Tech Pro SS Performance meter
Great video dude. I kind of wish I saw this before getting my 3.5. In my mind I just wanted the 3.5 for more power. I didn't realize the cam phaser issue before buying it. Based on your break down of the turbos/manifold and cooling, it seems like the turbos were an after thought on the 3.5. And then they built the 2.7 with the intention of turbos.
Hopefully the cam phaser replacement and ok pressure increase will solve the issue on the 3.5, some rumors are saying poorly cast blocks are the cause of the camp phaser issue
Great content. Thanks. I purchased a new 2020 STX with this engine and I am impressed with having the choice between great power and fuel economy. Most people have favorable stories with this engine. But Ford makes hundreds of thousands of them per year and some will be defective (as in any manufacturing line). I just hope mine is not one of them.
Ford ought to have you on the payroll, but you're spot on in almost every detail. I've been extensively researching the new generation of Ford engines, and I am most impressed with the 2.7. it'll be my next truck
9,145 miles and my 2020 supercrew with 2.7 ecoboost died on me. The knock sensor wiring harness burned up which I'm finding out this is happening with a lot of the 2nd gen ecoboost engines because Ford engineers decided to put the harness in the engine valley. So it's basically laying right on the hot motor.
Excellent video... you know your stuff. You just got yourself a follow!! Looking at buying a 2.7 Lariat. Dealer keeps pushing me to the 3.5. More stock available I guess.
Thing to realize about the 2.7 vs the 3.5. The 3.5 is a normally aspirated motor with turbos added. The 2.7 was designed to be turbo charged from the beginning.
@@flashgangster ended up buying a 2018 Lariat with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I live in Canada ...mostly city (and winter) driving I’m averaging 12 l/100km. That’s about 20 miles per gallon...I’m happy with that. My 2023 F150 will be the 2.7.
I can't see why they won't make a 3.5 like this. The name of the game is efficiency and they've achieved 90% of the capability of the 3.5 with the 2.7 in a compact form factor. This would absolutely shit all over everything on the market other than heavy duty diesels if they did it with the 3.5. water-cooled exhaust, dual injection, increased compression and such... It's not like the 2.7 is revolutionary step, more of an evolution from the original ecoboost design but better, and made from the get go to be turbocharged.
Did you remove your engine cover or is it supposed to be open like that? I just bought a 2020 and I thought maybe someone removed it and forgot to put it back on, but maybe they aren’t supposed to have one now that I watch this. Only had this 2.7 for a week & I absolutely love it!
I was nervous about it, but I’ve been extremely happy so far. It’s shifting kind of rough but the dealership said bring it in and they’ll get that fixed up. I’m getting 21mpg around town, much better than I hoped. My 2019 Frontier was getting 16-17 and maybe 20 on the highway. All my friends gave me shit about not getting a V8, but it’s way more than enough for my needs.
I have been on two 300 mile trips with my new 2022 2.7L and no lie I got 29.9 miles per gallon on one trip and 30 miles per gal on the second trip. Highway miles going the speed limit with minimal stops.
My manual says 91 octane all the time for optimal performance. Comming from a huge background of turbo cars as far back as the 90s , run premium fuel people. I know the truck comes with maps to run 87, and it will , but if you’re looking for longevity run premium.
What are you getting hand calculated mpg in the 2.7? My 2018 2.7 3.55 gears is only getting 15.3 hand calculated the dash says 17.6 but that’s not correct
I have a 2015 with a 2.7 Ecoboost turbo that needs the engine replaced; Is it possible to swap it with a 2nd gen, if so does it need any additional calibration or progamming?
Is the first gen 2.7 also the same design with the exhaust manifold built into the block? Have you done a video on the differences between the gen1 and gen2 2.7L?
The first thing does have integrated exhaust manifolds. They are integrated into the heads. I don't think I have that video comparing both side by side.
Waiting to order a 24 Ranger with the 2.7 checking out all videos and comments about this engine so I don't make an expensive mistake, Also considering a Frontier or Ridgeline because of the reliable v6 non -turbos in both, What do you think ?? HELP
Nice video and I just subscribed as well. I'm looking at getting a new truck sometime in 2021 and the 2.7 and 5.0 are both options. I only drive 5 miles one way to work so 10 miles a day generally speaking. Do you see short commutes causing any problems with either engine more so than the other? Thanks. Oh, and I generally don't tow much as I'm more likely to haul something than tow. Just in case that information matters.
Hey Jerry, I’ve had the 2.7 for two and a half years now. Similar to you, I have (well had) a short commute to work and haven’t had any issues. The key thing with engines of any kind are heat cycles, not distance. So the life of an engine is more counted by every time it goes from cold, to hot. With the dual fuel delivery system the carbon buildup is not an issue as much with a short heat cycle. I always make a point on weekends at least once a month to get the truck up to temp while doing errands and do a “launch”. So finding an on ramp, going slow, then revving the engine out to high rpm. Once at high way speeds I put it in manual mode to keep rpm high for a little bit and just make sure I’ve got a lot of pressure going through the system. This should help with burning off any buildup and make sure all gaskets and things see top operating pressures. These eco-boosts have a plastic variable pressure relief valve that is computer controlled. In Eco mode they do a good job of making the engine feel naturally aspirated and deliver smooth power. But when you put your foot down, it really builds the boost. Feels like a sports car and the torque delivery is amazing. It’s just important to exercise the system a make sure it sees the full spectrum of driving possibilities. At least in my opinion. The choice between 2.7 and 5.0 is all about power delivery. If you want torque at low RPM and be able to drive kind of like a diesel then get the 2.7. If you like to rev out to get your power then get the 5.0. Both powertrains when maintained properly should get 250k miles easy. The weak link in my opinion is the 10 speed transmission which both have. In normal mode it can’t make up its mind on what to do.. so just use the mode selector to tell it what you’re doing and it seems to operate better and not search for gears or shift at weird points you don’t expect.
The only problem with short trips is it may wear your battery faster. It doesn't have time to charge . It's good to put a charger on it once a week over night to keep your battery charged. I have a 2.7 Ecoboost 2016xlt . It's running very well
I have a 2019 STX with the 2.7 motor, I put catch can just in case and when I do the oil change I found there a little bit of oil which is caught. Not too much.
I’m looking for a new truck and can’t decide on the 2.7 or 3.5. I just really want something powerful and fun. I had the 3.3l and it was horrendous. I’ll tow a small trailer. What’s your thoughts?
I happen to see a video of a tear down of this particular engine and there’s one thing that struck me that I definitely didn’t like in the timing chain area they’re actually using a belt that actually dips down into the oil pan which to me I wouldn’t know why you would want a belt in an oil pan it makes no sense. The motor had 96,000 miles and when they checked his belt you can see that it was already cracking all up getting ready to give out.  another thing is is that this particular engine has oil pan leaks.
It already has a cold air intake, with the RAM. Only benefit u get from putting one on is noise, as the filter is exposed. Put a better drop in filter in
I have a 2017 eco boost with the 2.7 engine. And recently every once in a while it starts to run rough and if I come to it stop, it will shut off. And I get this weird smell coming off the exhaust and I can hear a lot of air pressure coming outta the gas cap. It only happens once a week or so. And than it goes away. I’ve taken it to a few shops around and so far no one seems to know what’s wrong with it. Do you have any advice? Thank you.
I run 89 in mine. Maybe it’s just where I live but she knocks too much with non top tier 87.. 89 is cheaper at a local gas station(non top tier)and no knock. I’ve noticed no drop in mpg. I’ve only averaged 21 mpgs for the life of the truck(according to the computer) and I was hoping for better. I’ve done as well as 25 though. Sync 3 sucks and the new update from Apple hasn’t helped with the CarPlay issues.
@brian Finn My 2.7 doesn’t knock with 87 top tier gas, it’s only about 2-3 cents more per gal versus non top tier. 89 octane is at a minimum of .30 more, sometimes .40. That adds up over time
@@DS-TRUCKS Thanks for the response. I looked it up on the website (which wasn't easy to find), the 2.7 Supercab w/ max payload package has a payload rating of 2165 lbs, but you can't get that package with the FX4 package, which is fine with me. That's probably the configuration I'll go with.
My 2019 XLT 2.7 is leaking at the oil pan with 21,000 miles on it. The passenger side turbo went out at 15,000 miles. Love the truck, but seems to have alot of issues for low miles.
@@stifflers69mom1 My stock 2018 F-150 FX4 Regular Cab SWB 2.7L 10-Speed 3.55:1 93 Octane 24,500 miles and I’ve only installed a new battery, no leaks, no problems at all. 0-60 = 5.9 Seconds ¼ mile = 14.4 Seconds G-Tech Pro SS Performance meter
This is a isolated issue , and not normal. I own a 19 2.7. I am very religious on maintenence, but zero issues at 50k. It is the best engine I have owned , and very reliable. Maybe you got a lemon. It happens.
@@calebniederhofer6529 I like you own the 2019. And I recently had cat converter replaced due to fault codes popping up for wastegate. Turns out they had to replace that wastegate issue all done for free. Not sure why wastegate code was showing but they told me at ford to begin using premium fuel. I also installed an oil catch can to help.
@@JH-me1gc Whoever told you to run premium, has no idea what they are talking about. The engine is designed for 87, unless you are towing heavy. That is the only time it is reccomended. You really don't benefit from premium, unless having a tune. Running a top teir gas, Is however important. It has the additives. I hate when people put out unedecuated advice. 75k on 87 on mine. Zero issues.
Only issues with the 2.7L are : the first generation had oil pan leaks, a few minor turbo issues with excessive exhaust smoke and a batch of em had some mis-machined heads which lead to some recalls. The second generation 2.7L has had EGR cooler failures. While this may sound like a lot, it’s only a tiny percentage of the 2.7’s out there. It is a dependable engine and has less issues than the 3.5EB
Brian F I just got a 2020 2.7 so I’m hoping I got a good one. What’s your opinion on the longevity of the motor? Do you think I could get 200k out of it? I usually keep my trucks for 7 years or so and run up the miles.
@@timschultes6467 there are plenty out here with 150k miles plus with very little issues. the second generation should be better longevity wise since it has both port and direct injection. Stay away from excessive tuning. Change oil every 4k miles or so with a good quality oil. And it should be a winner over the long haul. you will probably have a few recalls, because lets face it. All car manufactures have them now . Its just part of owning a new vehicle now
Brian F thanks for the info. I’m not going to be tuning the engine it’s plenty powerful. And I’m good about changing my oil I always go full synthetic like Mobil 1 or something of that quality. Only difference from my last f-150 had a 5.0 and I was able to do an oil change every 7k or so. Not a big deal doing it every 4 to 5. I’m a big Ford guy I have faith they built a good engine. They really have no choice because 95% of the 900,000 they sell a year have a 2.7 so they better do it right lol 😂
Tim Schultes to be honest , the 2.7 is probably Fords most reliable ecoboost engine. Nothing wrong putting a tune on one. Just don’t get crazy with it . As far as the 900,000 sales figure goes. I believe Fords long streak is in grave danger of losing it. The Corona virus and GMs huge discounts have nearly equaled the sales figures
Brian F yes I agree with you because when I bought my truck they weren’t discounting them as much as they usually do due to inventory shortages. Not a fan of GM or Ram I think the Chevy is very ugly looking the GMC is the better of the GM. As far as RAM goes it’s a beautiful truck but built by Fiat Chrysler which in my opinion is trash. I think the ford with the fully boxed steel frame and their long history of trucks that are made for the job site will prevail in the end. I do believe they all have gotten way to expensive for the average working American like myself. That’s why I had to get an STX because the other models are so damn expensive I don’t know how people do it.
**Most powerful engine PER CUBIC INCH.**
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You still got this truck???
@@TheOminous0209 traded it in for a power boost.
@@DS-TRUCKS Funny I think I just bought your truck it came from Michigan
@@TheOminous0209 when did you buy it?
@@DS-TRUCKS About 2 or 3 weeks ago I had a 2016 Xl my family is growing the I had a 6 foot bed and the smaller cab. My son no longer fit so I saw this at a shop I use to work at. But I notice is kind of jumps when when going from 2-3 on the 10 speed and I though that was odd. Didn’t feel on the test drive. So I came to on TH-cam to see if that was normal and stumbled on your channel
Best motor out there half ton wise, technology , mpg and power! Great video brotha !
Hi brotha😃
Thanks for doing this update! Really good information and it just makes me smile that much more that I chose the 2.7 over the 3.5 for the 5.0.
Great video. I ordered my 2022 F150 Lariat in December, and it’s being shipped to my dealer now! I got the 2.7EB not so much for the efficiency, but also a few other reliability factors; one that nobody ever seems to mention when comparing this to the 3.5EB is the external water pump. With the 3.5EB, the water pump is inside the cap, so if it starts to weep, you get water in your oil which gets pumped to the turbos and every other place in the engine. With the 2.7EB, the water pump is easily replaceable without removing the front cap, and no real possibility of water contaminating the oil lines exists.
I’ll be putting a catch can on as well, just to help minimize the likelihood of low-speed preignition which is often thought to be partially caused by blow-by in the PCV system.
Awesome content! Thank you.
I have 2016 f150 EcoBoost 2.7 and I have been so impressed by the power and gas mileage of this truck.
Nice video! I have a 2020 Lariat with the 2.7L ecoboost and I love it. Plenty of low end torque!
Great content in the video. Nice job and you covered everything I was wanting to learn about. Thanks for posting.
Just bought a used ‘18 f150 with the 2.7 32K mikes and I’ve always been a V8 guy but this motor absolutely blew me away!!!
Mine is going in Tuesday because my oil pan looks wet and I still have a little left under the factory powertrain warranty so I figured get everything/anything fixed before it ends…
Great video, glad I found your channel and love seeing another passionate ford fan!! Keep up the incredible work 👍
Thanks for posting the video, Glad to hear that the engine has dual fuel injection to help clean the carbon on the intake valves,,, it seems to be a real issue with regular direct injection engines. Just got a 2021 F-150 lariat 502A package (2.7 Liter engine), I receive it in 2 weeks
Thanks for this info! I just bought my second f150 with the 2.7, it Kicks Arse!
I have a 2019 STX 4x4 with the 2.7 and for a first truck I love it with 71,000 km on it no issues.
I have the 2021 STX 2.7 super cab. I commute so not more than 90% highway miles after 7k miles I average ongoing 25.5 to 26.0 mpg. Great power. A pleasure to drive. Amazing that they managed such efficiency; power and mpg. I get only 28 mpg on my 2.0 ecoboost 2017 for the exact same commute.
I love my 1st gen 15 f150 supercrew sport with the 2.7L. I have mine edge tuned, banks pedal monster, moshimoto oil catch cans and a banks cold air intake and mine screams even with a front leveling kit and 35's on stock wheels. I only have 38k miles on mine too. I will have it till I die.
Excellent video I have a2.7 2018 f150 thanks for all the info keep up the good work
Great video man! There’s a lot of differences between this and the first gen. Plus the 10 speed trans.
Solid video. Well done
I have had one for three months . The 2.7 is a great motor . I drove a 2011 with a 5.0 in it and was reserved about the small engine. I can’t say enough about how please I am with the 2.7 it’s a beast and gets great fuel mileage if you keep your foot out of it and drive it in eco mode
That's what I do, a lot of highway driving I leave it in eco. Get 10l/100km on average.
That's what I've experienced too. Drove 2 hours north and used a bit less than a quarter of a tank.
Nice looking machine, and informative explanations.
This is such a cool engine and this is coming from a old school pushrod V8 loving guy, they need to get this tech into the 3.5 for sure.
Very informative, thank you.
85,000 miles on my 18. Runs great no issues besides wiper stock
great video! I just bought a pre-loved 2018 STX 4x4 with this engine. So far, I love it! I'm gonna subscribe!
Thanks!
Dude I just got one day before yesterday. Same as you, 2018 STX 4x4 with a 2.7L. Mine is magma red. That's the dark almost wine color. My last truck was a 2006 xlt. I drove that truck for 15 years before my wife bought me this one.
Best explanation I ever got
Great video! Thanks man!
Great detailed explanations. Looking at a 3.5 in a F150 SuperCab. Thanks.
I have the 2018 2.7L ecoboost and I love it. Almost bought a catch can but after much research, seemed unnecessary with the direct and multi port injectors. Only thing negative is I can get a little heat soak when I first drive it which causes a little power loss with the turbo lag. Very nice looking trucks! Also found if you flash your high beams you can get the mileage on your dash without having to use the keys. Comes in handy during oil changes.
What is heat soak?
Yooo good looking out.
Good info plus putting my mine at ease on the 2.7 turbo engine. Now to check out the reliability on high mileage engines.
Thanks for the great explanation. This summer I'm buying a 2021 F150 XLT 2.7L Ecoboost with the 302a package and Sport appearance package in Rapid Red. I can't wait!
I just put a deposit on a 2021 xlt 302a crew cab today
When I read this I had to look to see if I posted it. Ha,ha. Great minds think alike.
Sounds exactly like the truck my son just bought. Now I want one.
I just took delivery of mine, you will love it!
Excellent video 👌🏼
I've been researching for a new F150 for a while now. Just can't afford one, but I can dream for free.
Anyways, I've been that typical "gotta have a V8" guy. Not because that's what a truck should always have, but more so on the topic of less components make the engine more reliable. There are also a few videos out there asking Ford Techs which engine they'd rather have, and the 5.0L always comes out on top. Thankfully, they're starting to ask why. Exhaust note, "because it's a truck", and other menial things mean nothing to me in terms of being a user.
The folks who have supported the 2.7L have been thorough and I can relate to their usages: Family hauler, weekend projects, occasional tow of a trailer, around town driving, and some highway use. Nothing but good things to say. Then, I've found a few good review videos of the engine, and even in this video, there's the mention of the cast exhaust manifolds, which I think is not only clever, but makes everything a bit more reliable.
If you're like me, wanting a truck that'll haul your family around, pick up stuff at Lowe's, haul a small trailer very rarely (although the truck is more than capable of pulling a decent sized travel trailer camper), this engine seems to be the best fit for all. Even better that it's the standard option on the Lariat trims.
TFL actually hauled max tow rating on the 2.7 (and 3.5 because they have identical tow ratings) up the IKE and it didn't break a sweat, and, actually got up the IKE a few seconds quicker than the 3.5. probably because it doesn't need to suck in so much air to work because lower displacement up at 10-11K feet. It also gives you peak torque sooner and keeps it up longer than both 3.5 and 5.0... It's a stout little engine that has more bite than bark. And I'm a V8 only kind of guy but the 2.7 seems to break that mold a bit.
I own the same 2020 STX 2.7 supercrew truck... outstanding!!! Love the 36gal fuel tank... in deep snow make a lot of difference in 2WD.. don't need to hit 4WD much
Great vid, thanks mate
The block skirt has cross-members built into it for extreme rigidity and smooth performance. I waited several years to see where this motor would fail, but never saw anything that gave me pause. I've had mine three years now and love , love, love it! ZERO turbo lag, and a mountain of torque. Milage can suffer with the 4 wheel version and the STX 20" wheels, combined with a heavy foot. With about the same or more power than a Cleveland 351, I'll take the 16 MPG's!
Best motor ever made
Great engine.. Good video Thanks
Sweet video!!!!!!!!! You know your 2.7 stuff man!
Very nice review!
My stock 2018 F-150 FX4 Regular Cab SWB 2.7L 10-Speed 3.55:1
24,500 miles and I’ve only installed a new battery, no leaks, no problems at all.
0-60 = 5.9 Seconds ¼ mile = 14.4 Seconds
93 Octane
G-Tech Pro SS Performance meter
@Rancy Yaldo
2018 Truck was two years old when the battery failed, I didn't take it to a dealer.
I think it's one year replacement on battery?
Great video dude. I kind of wish I saw this before getting my 3.5. In my mind I just wanted the 3.5 for more power. I didn't realize the cam phaser issue before buying it. Based on your break down of the turbos/manifold and cooling, it seems like the turbos were an after thought on the 3.5. And then they built the 2.7 with the intention of turbos.
Had the 3.5 is by no means a bad rig . In sports mode it can blow the doors off anything but the Dodge He’ll cat. That’s a Dammed Skippy motor .
Hopefully the cam phaser replacement and ok pressure increase will solve the issue on the 3.5, some rumors are saying poorly cast blocks are the cause of the camp phaser issue
I’m considering this as I’m done with the 5.0. Need to have a town and highway driver and some off-road fun.
It will get the job done!
Great content. Thanks. I purchased a new 2020 STX with this engine and I am impressed with having the choice between great power and fuel economy. Most people have favorable stories with this engine. But Ford makes hundreds of thousands of them per year and some will be defective (as in any manufacturing line). I just hope mine is not one of them.
I've had good luck!
I love the 2.7!
cory2146 I sure love mine too!
I’ve had my 2020 f150 2.7 for 2 days and love it so far lol
Great video. Are you going to do any videos about mods for the 2.7?
Love my 2.7!
Ford ought to have you on the payroll, but you're spot on in almost every detail. I've been extensively researching the new generation of Ford engines, and I am most impressed with the 2.7. it'll be my next truck
Well spoken, nice truck
Good video man i love my 2018 2.7 👍
2018 F150 the only issue I’ve had with the 2.7 is a leaking valve cover at 180,000 miles and the replacement of three injectors.
9,145 miles and my 2020 supercrew with 2.7 ecoboost died on me. The knock sensor wiring harness burned up which I'm finding out this is happening with a lot of the 2nd gen ecoboost engines because Ford engineers decided to put the harness in the engine valley. So it's basically laying right on the hot motor.
If it was very prevalent, wouldn’t there be a recall?
I'm smarter just listening to you. This motor is going in my 2021
Excellent video... you know your stuff. You just got yourself a follow!! Looking at buying a 2.7 Lariat. Dealer keeps pushing me to the 3.5. More stock available I guess.
I appreciate it!
Thing to realize about the 2.7 vs the 3.5. The 3.5 is a normally aspirated motor with turbos added. The 2.7 was designed to be turbo charged from the beginning.
@@flashgangster ended up buying a 2018 Lariat with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I live in Canada
...mostly city (and winter) driving I’m averaging 12 l/100km. That’s about 20 miles per gallon...I’m happy with that. My 2023 F150 will be the 2.7.
I can't see why they won't make a 3.5 like this. The name of the game is efficiency and they've achieved 90% of the capability of the 3.5 with the 2.7 in a compact form factor. This would absolutely shit all over everything on the market other than heavy duty diesels if they did it with the 3.5. water-cooled exhaust, dual injection, increased compression and such... It's not like the 2.7 is revolutionary step, more of an evolution from the original ecoboost design but better, and made from the get go to be turbocharged.
Did you remove your engine cover or is it supposed to be open like that? I just bought a 2020 and I thought maybe someone removed it and forgot to put it back on, but maybe they aren’t supposed to have one now that I watch this. Only had this 2.7 for a week & I absolutely love it!
I was nervous about it, but I’ve been extremely happy so far. It’s shifting kind of rough but the dealership said bring it in and they’ll get that fixed up. I’m getting 21mpg around town, much better than I hoped. My 2019 Frontier was getting 16-17 and maybe 20 on the highway. All my friends gave me shit about not getting a V8, but it’s way more than enough for my needs.
We're all going to need good MPG now! Lol
@@DS-TRUCKS That's the absolute truth lol
I have been on two 300 mile trips with my new 2022 2.7L and no lie I got 29.9 miles per gallon on one trip and 30 miles per gal on the second trip. Highway miles going the speed limit with minimal stops.
My manual says 91 octane all the time for optimal performance. Comming from a huge background of turbo cars as far back as the 90s , run premium fuel people. I know the truck comes with maps to run 87, and it will , but if you’re looking for longevity run premium.
I have a 2019 2.7 and at 55,000 miles my water pump died. This truck never missed service dates, but it fell under warranty and was replaced.
What grill is that? Looks great
I love mine.
I got a 2010 f150 4..6 and a new 2020 2.7 ecoboost, feel same power or sometimes better then my 2010.
56000 miles on my 18 2.7 n its perfect!!
What are you getting hand calculated mpg in the 2.7? My 2018 2.7 3.55 gears is only getting 15.3 hand calculated the dash says 17.6 but that’s not correct
I have a 2015 with a 2.7 Ecoboost turbo that needs the engine replaced; Is it possible to swap it with a 2nd gen, if so does it need any additional calibration or progamming?
Get a k&n high flow filter replacement at your local auto parts store. 🏁👍
how come you didn't install an oil catch can on it?
Is the first gen 2.7 also the same design with the exhaust manifold built into the block? Have you done a video on the differences between the gen1 and gen2 2.7L?
The first thing does have integrated exhaust manifolds. They are integrated into the heads. I don't think I have that video comparing both side by side.
Have a 2018/42K miles, and I keep getting 0430, and 0420 error codes. (Mostly 0430) Think I may have an O2 sensor going bad. Any thoughts?
Got 2.7 making 380 HP to the wheel. Love it
Wow what's done to it?
Yeah, what have you modified to make that kind of power?
Can this engine be put into a 2010 lincoln MKZ without mating issues?
Waiting to order a 24 Ranger with the 2.7 checking out all videos and comments about this engine so I don't make an expensive mistake, Also considering a Frontier or Ridgeline because of the reliable v6 non -turbos in both, What do you think ?? HELP
Hands down to this guy. Did he read the whole manual or something?
That and then some.
what year did the 2nd gen 2.7's come out?
Nice video. Cant believe tundras don’t get these mpgs.
2018 F150 the only issue I’ve had with the 2.7 is a leaking valve cover at 180,000 miles.
2018 is the first model year of the 2.7 gen 2?
Thought I read somewhere this has a plastic oil pan?
Great vid!
It does with a plastic drain plug. Mines a 2019 with 125,000k No leaks I’ve changed the drain plug out a few times and new plug seals every oil change
Why do you change out the drain plug each oil change?
So it sounds like my 2015 2.7L doesn't need the "catch cans" like the previous generation 2.7L needed. The power is incredible!
The 2015 is a first generation 2.7
Nice video and I just subscribed as well. I'm looking at getting a new truck sometime in 2021 and the 2.7 and 5.0 are both options. I only drive 5 miles one way to work so 10 miles a day generally speaking. Do you see short commutes causing any problems with either engine more so than the other? Thanks. Oh, and I generally don't tow much as I'm more likely to haul something than tow. Just in case that information matters.
Either will be fine for short trips.
Hey Jerry, I’ve had the 2.7 for two and a half years now. Similar to you, I have (well had) a short commute to work and haven’t had any issues. The key thing with engines of any kind are heat cycles, not distance. So the life of an engine is more counted by every time it goes from cold, to hot. With the dual fuel delivery system the carbon buildup is not an issue as much with a short heat cycle.
I always make a point on weekends at least once a month to get the truck up to temp while doing errands and do a “launch”. So finding an on ramp, going slow, then revving the engine out to high rpm. Once at high way speeds I put it in manual mode to keep rpm high for a little bit and just make sure I’ve got a lot of pressure going through the system. This should help with burning off any buildup and make sure all gaskets and things see top operating pressures.
These eco-boosts have a plastic variable pressure relief valve that is computer controlled. In Eco mode they do a good job of making the engine feel naturally aspirated and deliver smooth power. But when you put your foot down, it really builds the boost. Feels like a sports car and the torque delivery is amazing. It’s just important to exercise the system a make sure it sees the full spectrum of driving possibilities. At least in my opinion.
The choice between 2.7 and 5.0 is all about power delivery. If you want torque at low RPM and be able to drive kind of like a diesel then get the 2.7. If you like to rev out to get your power then get the 5.0. Both powertrains when maintained properly should get 250k miles easy. The weak link in my opinion is the 10 speed transmission which both have. In normal mode it can’t make up its mind on what to do.. so just use the mode selector to tell it what you’re doing and it seems to operate better and not search for gears or shift at weird points you don’t expect.
The only problem with short trips is it may wear your battery faster. It doesn't have time to charge . It's good to put a charger on it once a week over night to keep your battery charged. I have a 2.7 Ecoboost 2016xlt . It's running very well
Picking up my 2018 F150 Lariat this week. Friend was concerned about the motor...after lots of vids and this one, I am not. Thanks.
My 2018 f150 lariat have 75k and still going strong. Enjoy.
Do the gen2 have the cam phaser problems? And what’s the best way to know your looking at a gen2 and not a late model gen1
Any 2.7 EcoBoost built after 2018.
When is the f250 lift kit going to be done
I don't think I'm going to lift the 250!
With the tiny oil filter on the turbos you think the oil filler line should be changed out more often to prevent damage to the turbo?
Nope.
Great informative video, I subscribed, question do you think the 2.7 gen2 needs a catch can? Thanks in advance
I don't think it needs it.
I have a 2019 STX with the 2.7 motor, I put catch can just in case and when I do the oil change I found there a little bit of oil which is caught. Not too much.
1st gen needs it, 2nd does not. The dual injection solves the problem that the catch can is meant to correct.
I’m looking for a new truck and can’t decide on the 2.7 or 3.5. I just really want something powerful and fun. I had the 3.3l and it was horrendous. I’ll tow a small trailer. What’s your thoughts?
Either one you can't go wrong. 2.7 will be more efficient
I have a faulty output shaft speed sensor on my 2015 f150 xlt with 2.7 ecoboost. Anyone familiar with this issue?
I happen to see a video of a tear down of this particular engine and there’s one thing that struck me that I definitely didn’t like in the timing chain area they’re actually using a belt that actually dips down into the oil pan which to me I wouldn’t know why you would want a belt in an oil pan it makes no sense. The motor had 96,000 miles and when they checked his belt you can see that it was already cracking all up getting ready to give out.  another thing is is that this particular engine has oil pan leaks.
What year did the 2nd generation start. I have a 2019 in my F150. I have had no problems with the engine so far.
Ok, I got it later on in the video, thanks
Ever consider an aftermarket cold air intake system? More HP and better fuel economy.
Only effective with a tune...
It already has a cold air intake, with the RAM. Only benefit u get from putting one on is noise, as the filter is exposed. Put a better drop in filter in
I have a 2017 eco boost with the 2.7 engine. And recently every once in a while it starts to run rough and if I come to it stop, it will shut off. And I get this weird smell coming off the exhaust and I can hear a lot of air pressure coming outta the gas cap. It only happens once a week or so. And than it goes away. I’ve taken it to a few shops around and so far no one seems to know what’s wrong with it. Do you have any advice? Thank you.
Have you tried the dealer?
Please tell me the catch can is not needed on the 2021?
In my opinion no, it's not needed.
I run 89 in mine. Maybe it’s just where I live but she knocks too much with non top tier 87.. 89 is cheaper at a local gas station(non top tier)and no knock. I’ve noticed no drop in mpg. I’ve only averaged 21 mpgs for the life of the truck(according to the computer) and I was hoping for better. I’ve done as well as 25 though. Sync 3 sucks and the new update from Apple hasn’t helped with the CarPlay issues.
@brian Finn
My 2.7 doesn’t knock with 87 top tier gas, it’s only about 2-3 cents more per gal versus non top tier.
89 octane is at a minimum of .30 more, sometimes .40. That adds up over time
Does anyone know what the mpg difference would be on a 2.7 with 3.55 gears and 3.73 gears?
MPG will be roughly the same. 3.73 will probably be a little better in the city. A little lower on the highway. Better MPG while towing.
Power per cubic inch doesnt matter when you're boosting it, you're changing the volumetric efficiency.
Gone are the days of high-lobe cam shafts and bored out cylinders on a small block V8.
So what year was the second gen EcoBoost release
2018
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Which gears do you recommend for a 2.7 XLT Supercab 302A FX4 as a daily driver and hauling a 2000 pound slide-in camper full time?
3.73 max payload 2.7, if it has enough payload... The 5.0 gets just over 3000 lbs of payload. I can't remember how high the 2.7 goes.
@@DS-TRUCKS Thanks for the response. I looked it up on the website (which wasn't easy to find), the 2.7 Supercab w/ max payload package has a payload rating of 2165 lbs, but you can't get that package with the FX4 package, which is fine with me. That's probably the configuration I'll go with.
2100 is not enough margin to haul a 2000 lb slide in camper.
@@DS-TRUCKS It will be for me. I'm not worried about going a little over.
@@dlg5485 slide in camper has a tendency to tip. Need a slide in camper certified vehicle.
How do I know if my 2.7 EB is First Gen or Second Gen ? 2017 F150 Lariat 6 speed.
I believe that's first gen. 2nd gen is 10-speed. After 2018.
@@DS-TRUCKS thank you sir!
@@Billy_Silva any time
My 2019 XLT 2.7 is leaking at the oil pan with 21,000 miles on it. The passenger side turbo went out at 15,000 miles.
Love the truck, but seems to have alot of issues for low miles.
🤔 wow that sucks do you tow a lot with it? Just asking I have the same truck with 20,000 on it and I haven’t had any issues
@@stifflers69mom1
My stock 2018 F-150 FX4 Regular Cab SWB 2.7L 10-Speed 3.55:1 93 Octane
24,500 miles and I’ve only installed a new battery, no leaks, no problems at all.
0-60 = 5.9 Seconds ¼ mile = 14.4 Seconds
G-Tech Pro SS Performance meter
This is a isolated issue , and not normal. I own a 19 2.7. I am very religious on maintenence, but zero issues at 50k. It is the best engine I have owned , and very reliable. Maybe you got a lemon. It happens.
@@calebniederhofer6529 I like you own the 2019. And I recently had cat converter replaced due to fault codes popping up for wastegate. Turns out they had to replace that wastegate issue all done for free. Not sure why wastegate code was showing but they told me at ford to begin using premium fuel. I also installed an oil catch can to help.
@@JH-me1gc Whoever told you to run premium, has no idea what they are talking about. The engine is designed for 87, unless you are towing heavy. That is the only time it is reccomended. You really don't benefit from premium, unless having a tune. Running a top teir gas, Is however important. It has the additives. I hate when people put out unedecuated advice. 75k on 87 on mine. Zero issues.
Only issues with the 2.7L are : the first generation had oil pan leaks, a few minor turbo issues with excessive exhaust smoke and a batch of em had some mis-machined heads which lead to some recalls. The second generation 2.7L has had EGR cooler failures. While this may sound like a lot, it’s only a tiny percentage of the 2.7’s out there. It is a dependable engine and has less issues than the 3.5EB
Brian F I just got a 2020 2.7 so I’m hoping I got a good one. What’s your opinion on the longevity of the motor? Do you think I could get 200k out of it? I usually keep my trucks for 7 years or so and run up the miles.
@@timschultes6467 there are plenty out here with 150k miles plus with very little issues. the second generation should be better longevity wise since it has both port and direct injection. Stay away from excessive tuning. Change oil every 4k miles or so with a good quality oil. And it should be a winner over the long haul. you will probably have a few recalls, because lets face it. All car manufactures have them now . Its just part of owning a new vehicle now
Brian F thanks for the info. I’m not going to be tuning the engine it’s plenty powerful. And I’m good about changing my oil I always go full synthetic like Mobil 1 or something of that quality. Only difference from my last f-150 had a 5.0 and I was able to do an oil change every 7k or so. Not a big deal doing it every 4 to 5. I’m a big Ford guy I have faith they built a good engine. They really have no choice because 95% of the 900,000 they sell a year have a 2.7 so they better do it right lol 😂
Tim Schultes to be honest , the 2.7 is probably Fords most reliable ecoboost engine. Nothing wrong putting a tune on one. Just don’t get crazy with it . As far as the 900,000 sales figure goes. I believe Fords long streak is in grave danger of losing it. The Corona virus and GMs huge discounts have nearly equaled the sales figures
Brian F yes I agree with you because when I bought my truck they weren’t discounting them as much as they usually do due to inventory shortages. Not a fan of GM or Ram I think the Chevy is very ugly looking the GMC is the better of the GM. As far as RAM goes it’s a beautiful truck but built by Fiat Chrysler which in my opinion is trash. I think the ford with the fully boxed steel frame and their long history of trucks that are made for the job site will prevail in the end. I do believe they all have gotten way to expensive for the average working American like myself. That’s why I had to get an STX because the other models are so damn expensive I don’t know how people do it.
so reliable
I’m thinking about adding Ford Performance by Borla Sport Dual Exhaust also people swear by oil catch cans... what you say⁉️
I'm curious how that exhaust would sound... I don't think the catch can is a bad idea. But I personally never felt the need for it.
I did a borla exhaust and it sounded great but I ended up taking it off because it wasn’t loud enough for me
@@haydnfollis9924 what did you go with?