I work at a ford dealer and the 2.7 is a good little engine, very seldom do we have one in the shop with engine issues, the 3.5 is a deferent story we have them in the shop all the time with timeing chain issues. And this guy is telling u the truth about the oil and filter . If u change the oil and filter every 5k miles and use a good synthetic oil and this little engine will last a lot of miles down the road
Came here because of the Bronco videos but stayed for the information. I have a 2019 F-150 with this motor and I absolutely love it. Can't wait to have it on the Bronco!
I have a 2020 STX 4X4 w/the 2.7. It is my work truck and have put 115,000 miles on it. I have it serviced every 5000 miles using Fords full synthetic oil. I haven't had any issues with this engine. I'm in Phoenix and this truck idles for about 20 minutes straight at least 10 times a day as it is my mobile office. With summer temperatures hitting 110°+ I'm super impressed with this engine. I'm hoping it'll last 500,000 miles before needing major work.
I have the 2.7L in my 2022 F150 XLT, I put a S&B cold air intake and the Pedal Commander Throttle Controller, and I use Mobil 1 full synthetic oil every 4k miles. Pretty sure the 2.7 is gonna be Ford’s strongest and most reliable eco boost they ever conceived. I love it and I feel Ike it’s gonna go to 250k miles easily
Man when you said CGI I was thinking what is this guy talking about, but as soon as you said power stroke 6.7 diesel it all made sense, you sir are a genius!
I'm running the 2.7 in my Badlands. This engine is GREAT in the Bronco. Tons of power, quick reaction times (low turbo lag), sounds great inside the cabin, and terrible fuel efficiency to boot. What's not to love?
@@iamgermane last thing I heard is the 3.0L Ecoboost being most-likely in the bronco raptor. If that is true, it’s not the same motor as is in the f150 raptor. I’ve also heard the 3.5L ecoboost wouldn’t even fit in the engine compartment of the bronco.
I love these engines, finally drove one and despite my love for gas hungry roaring v8s, I’d hands down own a f150 2.7l with the 10spd. 20mpg average and all the power I could need was VERY impressive. If they last it’s a no brainer
Thank you for the excellent breakdown of the 2.7, I really like this engine. It has so much potential and a performance monster. People need to watch this video before they act like they know anything about this 2.7.
I have this engine on my 2018 f150. 27k miles no issues. I been patiently waiting on a nice exhaust for this engine... Hopefully the Bronco hype brings the engineers to the yard!!
I have a 2023 Base model with the 2.7 and the Sasquatch Package. I have just under 1500 miles and so far its freaking awesome. Its the first truck I have that sits on 35’s and can still haul ass!!! I came from a 96 Land Cruiser and compared to my Bronco its a donkey! Thanks for the informative video, please keep it up!
I’m one of those Bronco owner who had “dropped valve” it’s been at the dealership for a little over a month now. I was probably one of the first to receive a bronco in Northern California, so it’s been taking awhile to get my bronco back to me. The dealership acquired a new 2.7L motor from another dealership and dropped it in but heard some knocking or noise and had to stop. In the meantime a brand new 2.7L direct from Ford is being installed now. Fingers crossed it takes this time.
Can you tell me what the previous 15 to 30 minutes was like driving? Did you hear any strange noises, did you also lose power? And had you been in any off-road goat modes?
Yeah I would like to know for any signs to tell before hand...would be good to understand any pre-cursor issues you noticed and the type of driving you do? Did you leave the auto turnoff on where the engine shuts off and turns on automatically at stop lights...etc. Looking at a 2500 mile road trip on my new Badlands in a couple of weeks...only have 800 miles on mine and has been running great.
I’m using the boost gauge in the off-road selection. Thanks to Buckle-up Buttercup. Also change the plastic oil pan plug when you change the oil. Even if you have to argue with the Ford Service manager. $20 is cheap insurance.
Lets start by saying that I am almost 70 Years old and I've seen and worked on many car engines. This 2.7 v6 Sounds like a delicate engine and I think the auto industry and technology has reached is mechanical Limit and in trying to make an engine better at the same time create more problems. Like I said , the automotive industry has reached its Limit!
I think you are on to something. We are try to squeeze way to much out of small displacement engines. Although, from what I know about the 2.7, and owning two of them, this engine holds its own.
Great video, thanks. Equally important, cracked bearing caps also maintain the precise inside diameter of the cap over cutting kerf losses. 2.7 liters equals 165 cubic inches (2700/16.39)
Excellent overview of the gen 2 2.7l Ecoboost. I completely agree with your comment about changing the oil and filter more frequently. In my opinion it’s the number one way to increase the life of the engine, especially turbocharged ones. Thanks!
Thanks for checking it out. One thing I didn’t mention with boosted engines there tends to be more acidic build up and I want to get that out of the engine more frequently.
@@DrivenWildOutdoors I am curious if you would recommend using an oil catch canister for this engine. I would appreciate an honest assessment about the pros and cons of adding one. Perhaps a topic for another video…hint hint?
@@timschultes6467 good to hear. A lot of people don’t understand that boosted engines puts a lot of contaminants in the oil and you’re changing it at the perfect interval to get rid of the build up. Thanks for watching 👍
Just some perspective when it comes to modern engines. I recently purchased a 2018 F150 with the 2.7L and I also have a 1971 MG Midget with the 1275 A-Series (1.3L). The MG new made 65hp or 50 HP per liter. The F150 makes 325hp or 120 HP per liter. New tech and tighter tolerances have really gone a long way. There are pros and cons to everything, and modern engines have many more points of failure, but modern manufacturing has mitigated most of that.
One of the most informative Bronco videos I have seen in a while. I have a 2.7L Badlands being built next month. Can't wait to take delivery and this info on the V6 is great to have. Thank you.
Excellent breakdown on the 2.7L. Thank you for parsing it down into digestible terms. I was wondering--what is a best practice for *exercising* a boosted engine? I'm assuming dropping it into sport mode and giving it a slightly more aggressive acceleration?
I have the 2023 Wildtrak and really like the 2.7 and I installed J&L catch can and there is not a lot of oil in the reservoir at each oil change interval at 6400 km….but enough to feel good that it is working to protect the engine.
Love this mill. More than enough punch, solid. Responded very well to JB4 tuner. Those big Bronco wheels that deform like drag tyres on acceleration and suboptimal aerodynamics leads to miserable fuel consumption.
My 911 and Bronco have about the same HP. I love this engine. Similar to the Explorer Ecoboost, use ONLY the highest quality spec Full Synthetic Oil with Ford filters. Great video! I have 1500 miles now and will take your advice to change the oil and filter.
Thanks for the lecture!!! I have an Edge ST with the 2nd Gen engine and I do all my own maintenance and repairs. I learned things that helped me to know more about this engine and how to take care of it. What brand of gas do you consider acceptable and high quality?
Great accurate content. Your knowledge of engine mechanics is very impressive. You do a good job of dumbing down the technical aspects that even a guy like me without much desire to wrench on my vehicles can understand. Nice area 51 Bronco....
Any recommendations for engine longevity or reliability other than the basics you said such as; regular oil changes (using quality oil and filter), good quality fuel, ignition (plugs, wires, & coils) & general maintenance? I have been looking at some of the aftermarket intercooler but feel like it would be unnecessary for stock boost. I have a 2.7 Bronco Badlands that will stay stock for the most part that sees regular off road use but not abuse.
If you want longevity and reliability leave all your stock ignition components (it's coil over plug) the aftermarket options are not reliable. Performance products are for performance, not reliability UNLESS specifically designed to fix an existing issue, which is not the case. Randomly throwing aftermarket stuff at an engine is a recipe for issues. Leave it alone. Get a tune if you want power.
@@volvo09 he was talking about replacing the intercooler, which is not a bad idea. My last turbo car (2.0T caddy ats) had the radiator go out because of the plastic ends. If the aftermarket option is built better, I dont see why it wouldn't be a good idea. Only thing is I would only buy one after warranty ends lol
I had a 2015 F150 with the 2.7 that was tuned and it lived a hard life with 0 issues. 80k miles in 3 years either pulling a loaded trailer or with the bed full most every weekend. Loved that truck.
I wouldnt go over 3k mile oil changes on that boosted engine. unless you add a catch can system. The rings get plugged insanely fast unfortunately then you get oil consumption issues with these
I put 5w40 synthetic oil in my 2.7 during the summer. Direct injection plus turbos plus 195f thermostat is very hard on the oil. I change oil every 4 months
Great video! Looking forward to the new ones. Would 7,500 mile intervals be ok if it's mainly highway miles? Would this be similar to the 2.0 Bronco Sport? I have a BS Badlands so am curious.
Time will tell I guess. I will be changing my oil with 100% synthetic every 3 to 5 k miles depending on my oil samples. Of course that is my personal belief. Turbos require oil maintenance to keep them healthy 👍. Thanks for watching
i would NEVER go over 4k miles on an oil change on a turbo car ! Turbos destroy oil! the heat they generate plus theyre spinning at over 300k rpm. cheaper to change oil than engine. But i would NEVER buy a turbo car or truck as a daily driver . been a tech for 36 years and every turbo car i've worked on is pissing oil burning anti-freeze.
@@peterpeter5666 I have since moved and have gone from driving about 24k miles a year to 5k a year. I was planning on changing to a 6 month/2500 mile interval. Would you recommend something different? Not sure if it matters these days but It's more city type driving but not stop and go type at least.
@@newsforcous I have been doing oil changes on my car every 4k with liquid molly full synthetic oil. Costs me about 60.00 every 4-6 months. I'm sure in the states it's cheaper.
So, in terms of reliability, I'm hearing several different things about the 2.7L, some of which seem to indicate better longevity and some of which don't. Port as well as direct injection: good. Limited pressure coming from belt-driven oil pump: not necessarily good. Oil filter is cheaper cartridge type as opposed to standard metal cylinder like on the 2.3L. How best do I wrap my head around expected longevity and reliability when comparing the 2.7L to the 2.3L? Thank you, nice videos!
Really enjoyed this.Thx. I enjoy changing the oil myself... Good thing about a Sasquatch or even a base model is no jacking or ramps required.. Just slide under and reach up...
@@deidrepaez5263 My personal opinion is full synthetic, I asked my dealer if that would void the warranty and they stated no. However synthetic blend is fine as well I think the frequency of the oil change and the driving habits dictate more. I’m doing a video on the 2.3 L where I’m going to talk in depth about turbos and why oil in Boosted engines are very closely connected
I "exercise" my 2017 Ford Fusion Sport 2.7L Twin-Turbo AWD waste-gates everyday when I drive to and from work. 75% of the road trip to and from work is highway. lol Also, since my car is a 2017 2.7L EcoBoost, to resolve the singular Direct Injection recirculation of smoke back into the intake, I've put an after-market Oil Catch can to capture any airborne "sludge" that might leak towards the intake valve.
Will Ford's belt change interval is 90 to 150,000 mi pull the engine pull the front cover pull the oil pan and replace the drive belt for the oil pump.
@@n.elliott9122 I don’t know. Considering that pan is a 1 time use item if I have to replace my oil pump belt I will probably up for an aftermarket aluminum pan.
what are your thoughts on the oil catch can topic? I heard you mention the dual injection helps keep it cleaner, but would we be removing the cooling effect with a catch can? Would that damage or wear anything out? Bottom line, do you think a catch can is a good idea or not for this engine?
I like your vides, you talk FACTS, not speculation clickbait like Scotty Kilmer! Look into Top Tier fuel, it's a huge advantage in performance and longevity
Really enjoyed this video. Haven't received my Bronco yet an plan to do some maintenance work to it myself. I learned alot about the 2.7 I didn't know.
Thanks for this video! My wife and I are still anxiously awaiting the production email. We placed our first order in July of 2021, and just placed the MY2022 order a few weeks ago (Cactus Grey, Outer Banks, 2.7, Sasquatch). Hoping we get it in the next 6 months; we're currently keeping a 2004 5.4 Expedition with 250,000 miles on it alive; she's read to be retired from active duty!
We sold our 2004 Eddie Bauer expedition with a 5.4 L at 280+ thousand miles 😎 we should’ve kept it for farm use. It was a beast! Thanks for watching! And I hope you get your Broncos sooner than you expect 👍
Great info especially on the dual injection. You mentioned carbon build up still being a possibility; would you recommend getting an oil catch can? Or what are your thoughts on them being installed on this engine?
I have never installed one personally however I do know that they are supposed to help separate the oil and moisture, however I do not think manufactures will allow it while it’s under warranty however I am researching that to find out. I will probably do a video on that one day because it’s not so much an issue on the new bronco however on an order eco-boost of some type it may be beneficial. But I have to do more research to make sure
Hmm. It’d be unfortunate if that voided the warranty. There was a ford engineer over on 6g who mentioned it might be a good idea to get one and I wanted your $0.02 as well. Thanks for responding
@@tylerwatson9836 Yeah I’m trying to confirm it first hand for myself. I definitely don’t want to give anyone bad advice. However there will probably be one on my Badlands here very soon and of course will video it As soon as I get confirmation that it will not void the warranty I will pass it on. If I’m not mistaken they come factory on the Shelby’s
Catch can is a fine idea on a turbo engine. There should never be a warranty issue - after all, it removes more crud from the intake tract therefore keeping the engine cleaner in the long run. The only trick is make sure you empty the can regularly,; do not let it fill up, especially if you are in a clod weather climate (like Canada)
My cars always lasted a long time. When I buy a new car, I take it 4 hours in one direction and then 4 hours back, after 6 hours stop for some food, start it back up, your last 2 hours drive it like your stole it, then pull into your garage and change the oil and filter. If it's hot out the AC on max the whole time and cold the heat on with high fan. Gotta get everything moving and jelling together.
Good info. Can you address concerns about the plastic oil pan and the funky oil plug that is reportedly fragile and needs replacing when the oil is changed?
Get yourself a Ronin replacement oil plug to replace the garbage yellow plastic plug. Best 80 bucks you’ll ever spend. And stops the oil from splashing all over the sway bar. I attach a plastic tube to the nipple so I can direct the oil flow. Never spill a drop again.
Great run down! Toyota guy here and other half has to have a bronco. So Im still a Toyota guy lol but at least you gave me some hope to see past 100k. Doubt 300k but guess we will see. Again, thanks 💪👍🇺🇸 Firm believer in a 5k syn regular oil change regiment⚔️
I do cars youtube channel tore a couple 2.7's apart and the oil pump belt had cracks showing around 100k miles. I think the concern is not it totally breaking but rubber breaking off getting in the oil although i have not seen any videos of one failing or destroying the engine.
This is cool, I am planning on doing something at the Lima,OH plant about the engine. Great video with great details..This is the best explanation on the internet.
From the stories of friends and dealerships the 2.7 is the most reliable engine in an f150 currently. Even over the 5.0. That being due to the cylinder cut off it’s doing now like Chevy has done for years. For someone like me with a v8 04 f150 I’d love the 2.7 ecoboost. I don’t trust the 3.5, love the power but I don’t trust it. So I’d go 2.7 all day long. They’d bank if they brought it to the next gen Ranger too.
Ghillie Man Reviews --- I just read on the Ford Website that the 2024 Ranger is coming with the 2.7L Ecoboost V6 engine... The previous engine in 2023 is the 2.3L Ecoboost 4 cylinder...
So.... avoid the 1st gen 2.7? Wondering if i should avoid turbos altogether and get a 5.0 with the overall crappier fuel mileage. But I drive up to 30k miles a year, so it adds up.
Thank you for this video. Say you're running down the freeway and turn off to gas up (Chevron or Shell, right?). How long should you let the engine idle to allow the turbines to spool down and dissipate all the heat from the road? EDIT: You are answering my questions with your "Turbo Etiquette" video. I'm off to watch that now.
Fantastic video and a great breakdown of some key features. Here's a question you've probably heard a million times, but what is your oil recommendation? I know the OE spec is a semi-synth blend - did you go this route with your reduced service interval or go with a full synthetic approach?
Super informative and easily understandable...especially for us non engine builders..Thank you...on both Motors available...I want the manual n feel more confident with the 2.3....esp. if its geared right in my mind.. Cheers...Thank you
Just got my Badlands 2.7 and loving it. Wondering which octane you’re putting in yours? I’m going back and forth between 88 and 91 but want to decide on a fuel and stick with it rather than switching back and forth.
Until my first oil change I have been using 87, after 2 k I will switch to premium. It depends on your driving habits. 87 will do fine, however premium will give you the 2.7's true potential. I will be doing a video on gas soon.
I have this engine in my f150 supercrew. Ford uses an adaptive tuning of sorts and the vehicle adjusts things like timing and boost to whatever grade of fuel you are running. I mainly run 87 myself because its a daily driver i run a tank of 93 if im towing my jeep .
We are doing a video on the 2.3 four-cylinder and then I will be digging in deep with the bronco sports in the very near future. Thanks for your comment and watching the video!
Thank you for checking out our channel. The handful of articles that are being circulated around the Internet is nothing more than a smear campaign in my humble opinion. I don’t think the competition wants me to start listing their issues. Lol
Thank you for this video I just subscribed, I just received my all-wheel-drive 2.0 L maverick about three weeks ago and my bronco is scheduled to be built at the end of November can’t wait. I’m about to upload a video on the Mavericks 0-60 times and first driving impression. Also I work for Ford and your video taught me some things I did not know about the 2.7 L👍🏽👍🏽
Well, like I tell everyone, I cannot recommend any modifications to an engine. However, I personally run catch cans on my engines and every time I empty out the canister it makes me feel that much better knowing that that’s not coding the intake valves. The dual injection helps however the port injection on these engines are more for idle and low speed, and not necessarily for under boost winch, is when you’re going to have most of the vapor being created . I’ll comment later with the oil catch can video install that is on my channel
Thanks for a very informative and helpful video. We have 700 miles on our Badlands. I'm going to do the initial oil change next weekend (1000 miles) and plan on using Amsoil OE 5W-30 fully synthetic. Do you have any thoughts on Amsoil products in the 2.7? Thanks.
Amsoil makes a very good product. They were one of the first and definitely The first household name to sell synthetic. Have you seen my oil change video? You just want to make sure the oil is APR rated for SN plus, and in particular that it’s made for boosted engines. The rule of thumb is make sure all of the ratings match the manufacturers suggestions
@@DrivenWildOutdoors Thanks for the reply. I compared Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5w-30 to Amsoil's fully synthetic OE 5w-30. Both reduce LSPI, meet SN Plus, and service ILSAC GF-5 . The only difference I see is that Motorcaft states that it meets API SN while Amsoil said they meet API SP and SM. I don't know oil specs, so is that anything to be concerned with?
You are going to love the Bronco. We are expecting 12 to 15 “ of snow this weekend. Make sure you subscribe to our channel to watch from my live stream of letting that 2.7 loose in the snow.
@@DrivenWildOutdoors Ahh thank you very much! I moved down South from the Northeast years ago, no more snow, but we sure got plenty of sand! The wait is killing me.
I own a 2020 F150 2.7l Echoboost.. so far so good... I cannot even change oil do a Ford dealer does it.. I do change my 3.3l incline 4 cylinder 91 year old 40HP 31' ford no problem... my 31' engine has next to zero oil pressure.. ;)
Thanks for the break down. I wae looking at a 24 Ranger with the 2.7. Was a little worried it would be a big mistake. Not loving the belt in the oil, but i use good oil and change often.
Thanks so much for this video. I think you've really made me and I'm sure a great many others feel more confident in our investment in the new Bronco 2.7. Excellent content here!
i got a 2020 f150 w a 2.7L and i just did my first oil change and when i put the 6 qt.s of oil in it i just drove it home about 5 miles then turned it off waited 5 min. to check it and it is at the very top of the full line instead of in between the two holes in the dipstick like it was from the factory. the guy at the oil change place checked it first before i did the oil change and said it was low but to me it was perfect in between the full and low marks, what do you think
Well I can tell you my bronco from the factory is slightly above the top of the hashmarks, The F1 50 per Ford holds 6 quarts, The bronco per Ford hold seven, however I don’t know if anybody’s been able to get 7 quarts in the 2.7 bronco and not overfill it. Generally speaking anywhere in the hashmarks especially center is considered good.
I work at a ford dealer and the 2.7 is a good little engine, very seldom do we have one in the shop with engine issues, the 3.5 is a deferent story we have them in the shop all the time with timeing chain issues. And this guy is telling u the truth about the oil and filter . If u change the oil and filter every 5k miles and use a good synthetic oil and this little engine will last a lot of miles down the road
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Until it drops a valve 😮
I have 2023 ford bronco with the 2.7 eco boost engine, so far very satisfied with the performance.
Same mine has been pretty reliable about 16k miles in so far
Same here. Only had it a month but I think she'll be fine. I'm HAPPY !
Same here ...
Came here because of the Bronco videos but stayed for the information. I have a 2019 F-150 with this motor and I absolutely love it. Can't wait to have it on the Bronco!
My 2.7 moves the Bronco just fine for me, I feel there is so much left on the tuning table with this engine.
Yes. In the F150s, tuning and proper fuel have made huge gains.
I have a 2020 STX 4X4 w/the 2.7. It is my work truck and have put 115,000 miles on it. I have it serviced every 5000 miles using Fords full synthetic oil. I haven't had any issues with this engine. I'm in Phoenix and this truck idles for about 20 minutes straight at least 10 times a day as it is my mobile office. With summer temperatures hitting 110°+ I'm super impressed with this engine. I'm hoping it'll last 500,000 miles before needing major work.
I have the 2.7L in my 2022 F150 XLT, I put a S&B cold air intake and the Pedal Commander Throttle Controller, and I use Mobil 1 full synthetic oil every 4k miles. Pretty sure the 2.7 is gonna be Ford’s strongest and most reliable eco boost they ever conceived. I love it and I feel Ike it’s gonna go to 250k miles easily
Man when you said CGI I was thinking what is this guy talking about, but as soon as you said power stroke 6.7 diesel it all made sense, you sir are a genius!
I installed a catch a can and I don't have that worry of that oily mist being sucked back inti the intake, best $25 I've spent, it works great...
anything with direct injection need a catch can
@@joeblow5037 yes sir...
@@joeblow5037 non direct injection also benefit.
I'm running the 2.7 in my Badlands. This engine is GREAT in the Bronco. Tons of power, quick reaction times (low turbo lag), sounds great inside the cabin, and terrible fuel efficiency to boot. What's not to love?
I agree, there is so much potential in this engine
@@DrivenWildOutdoors Not enough as it appears Ford is bringing larger engines from the Raptor for the Bronco Raptor.
@@iamgermane at some point what is enough power in the Bronco? What your opinion?
@@iamgermane last thing I heard is the 3.0L Ecoboost being most-likely in the bronco raptor. If that is true, it’s not the same motor as is in the f150 raptor. I’ve also heard the 3.5L ecoboost wouldn’t even fit in the engine compartment of the bronco.
@@sentineloffreedom Hope they get the 3.5 V6 to fit from the Raptor! Those engines they put in cop Explorers are ridiculous.
You might think this gentleman has first hand experience with Ford engines. You would be correct. This dude knows what he talks about!
I love these engines, finally drove one and despite my love for gas hungry roaring v8s, I’d hands down own a f150 2.7l with the 10spd. 20mpg average and all the power I could need was VERY impressive. If they last it’s a no brainer
I agree
Me too. I'm a Chevy small block kinda guy but I test drove a 2015 2.7 f150 and now I own it haha.
Thank you for the excellent breakdown of the 2.7, I really like this engine. It has so much potential and a performance monster. People need to watch this video before they act like they know anything about this 2.7.
Thank you! I agree 💯
I have seen this motor in some bad ways. Not dependable.
@@robertmoore4637 just bought an old oil patch truck 2020 f150 longbox 2 whl drive 2.7 with 468000k on it
Get 22 mpg on the highway with mine. Ford dealer also told me to exercise it. Good video.
Thank you for watching!
I have this engine on my 2018 f150. 27k miles no issues. I been patiently waiting on a nice exhaust for this engine... Hopefully the Bronco hype brings the engineers to the yard!!
Thanks for watching. I think the aftermarket people will step up their game. The hype of the Bronco is bringing much more attention.
I have a 2023 Base model with the 2.7 and the Sasquatch Package. I have just under 1500 miles and so far its freaking awesome. Its the first truck I have that sits on 35’s and can still haul ass!!!
I came from a 96 Land Cruiser and compared to my Bronco its a donkey!
Thanks for the informative video, please keep it up!
Awesome! I really enjoy ours
I’m one of those Bronco owner who had “dropped valve” it’s been at the dealership for a little over a month now. I was probably one of the first to receive a bronco in Northern California, so it’s been taking awhile to get my bronco back to me. The dealership acquired a new 2.7L motor from another dealership and dropped it in but heard some knocking or noise and had to stop. In the meantime a brand new 2.7L direct from Ford is being installed now. Fingers crossed it takes this time.
Can you tell me what the previous 15 to 30 minutes was like driving? Did you hear any strange noises, did you also lose power? And had you been in any off-road goat modes?
Yeah I would like to know for any signs to tell before hand...would be good to understand any pre-cursor issues you noticed and the type of driving you do? Did you leave the auto turnoff on where the engine shuts off and turns on automatically at stop lights...etc. Looking at a 2500 mile road trip on my new Badlands in a couple of weeks...only have 800 miles on mine and has been running great.
Great video. Thank you so much for taking the time to put it together. Excellent job of “dumbing it down” for us non-mechanics.
Thank you for watching!
I’m using the boost gauge in the off-road selection. Thanks to Buckle-up Buttercup. Also change the plastic oil pan plug when you change the oil. Even if you have to argue with the Ford Service manager. $20 is cheap insurance.
I got my 2021 4 door Base last week, I’m glad I went for the 2.7 V6 engine
Nothing wrong with the 2.3, however, the 2.7 is a great engine with a lot of performance left
Lets start by saying that I am almost 70 Years old and I've seen and worked on many car engines. This 2.7 v6 Sounds like a delicate engine and I think the auto industry and technology has reached is mechanical Limit and in trying to make an engine better at the same time create more problems. Like I said , the automotive industry has reached its Limit!
I think you are on to something. We are try to squeeze way to much out of small displacement engines. Although, from what I know about the 2.7, and owning two of them, this engine holds its own.
427 is the perfect engine. Every car should have one!
OSU ...................or a 7.3 gas burner ?????
@@dannycalley7777oh the days when you could watch the fuel gauge drop at the same rate as an electric car battery.
Our Bronco has been built and is supposed to ship soon. Can't wait to get it! It is a 2.7 L with Sasquatch.
I'm sure you will be impressed with the 2.7,
Great video, thanks. Equally important, cracked bearing caps also maintain the precise inside diameter of the cap over cutting kerf losses. 2.7 liters equals 165 cubic inches (2700/16.39)
Excellent overview of the gen 2 2.7l Ecoboost. I completely agree with your comment about changing the oil and filter more frequently. In my opinion it’s the number one way to increase the life of the engine, especially turbocharged ones. Thanks!
Thanks for checking it out. One thing I didn’t mention with boosted engines there tends to be more acidic build up and I want to get that out of the engine more frequently.
@@DrivenWildOutdoors I am curious if you would recommend using an oil catch canister for this engine. I would appreciate an honest assessment about the pros and cons of adding one. Perhaps a topic for another video…hint hint?
I have this engine in my 2020 F-150 and it’s a great engine. I change my oil every 4500-5000 miles with full synthetic
@@timschultes6467 good to hear. A lot of people don’t understand that boosted engines puts a lot of contaminants in the oil and you’re changing it at the perfect interval to get rid of the build up. Thanks for watching 👍
How often should oil be changed then ?
What is the oil pump belt’s change interval and is it DIY? Thanks for all the great info!
Just some perspective when it comes to modern engines. I recently purchased a 2018 F150 with the 2.7L and I also have a 1971 MG Midget with the 1275 A-Series (1.3L). The MG new made 65hp or 50 HP per liter. The F150 makes 325hp or 120 HP per liter. New tech and tighter tolerances have really gone a long way. There are pros and cons to everything, and modern engines have many more points of failure, but modern manufacturing has mitigated most of that.
One of the most informative Bronco videos I have seen in a while. I have a 2.7L Badlands being built next month. Can't wait to take delivery and this info on the V6 is great to have. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
Excellent breakdown on the 2.7L. Thank you for parsing it down into digestible terms. I was wondering--what is a best practice for *exercising* a boosted engine? I'm assuming dropping it into sport mode and giving it a slightly more aggressive acceleration?
Getting up to the speed limit on the interstate seems to work for me.
@@DrivenWildOutdoors Thank you!
I have the 2023 Wildtrak and really like the 2.7 and I installed J&L catch can and there is not a lot of oil in the reservoir at each oil change interval at 6400 km….but enough to feel good that it is working to protect the engine.
@@marksjunction69 that is a good thing. 👍
Can you speak at great length on the transmission/oil cooler for the 2.7?
Love this mill. More than enough punch, solid. Responded very well to JB4 tuner. Those big Bronco wheels that deform like drag tyres on acceleration and suboptimal aerodynamics leads to miserable fuel consumption.
My 911 and Bronco have about the same HP. I love this engine. Similar to the Explorer Ecoboost, use ONLY the highest quality spec Full Synthetic Oil with Ford filters. Great video! I have 1500 miles now and will take your advice to change the oil and filter.
Definitely run an amz oil filter, best quality on the market, I runs amz oil signature series or penz oil untra platinum only and my EcoBoost has 400k
@@linksofcanmore which model and year is your 2.7 in?
Thanks for the lecture!!! I have an Edge ST with the 2nd Gen engine and I do all my own maintenance and repairs. I learned things that helped me to know more about this engine and how to take care of it. What brand of gas do you consider acceptable and high quality?
Hope there is enough room in engine compartment for easy LS swaps.
Used market will be interesting in a few years.
With dual injection - is an oil catch can still recommended? In my experience, any turbo should have one.
Great accurate content. Your knowledge of engine mechanics is very impressive. You do a good job of dumbing down the technical aspects that even a guy like me without much desire to wrench on my vehicles can understand. Nice area 51 Bronco....
Thank you!
Have a 2020 f150 with the 2.7 70k km thing solid and great , fast and fun to drive, coming from a v8 in my last f150 wouldn’t look back
Any recommendations for engine longevity or reliability other than the basics you said such as; regular oil changes (using quality oil and filter), good quality fuel, ignition (plugs, wires, & coils) & general maintenance? I have been looking at some of the aftermarket intercooler but feel like it would be unnecessary for stock boost. I have a 2.7 Bronco Badlands that will stay stock for the most part that sees regular off road use but not abuse.
If you want longevity and reliability leave all your stock ignition components (it's coil over plug) the aftermarket options are not reliable. Performance products are for performance, not reliability UNLESS specifically designed to fix an existing issue, which is not the case.
Randomly throwing aftermarket stuff at an engine is a recipe for issues. Leave it alone. Get a tune if you want power.
@@volvo09 he was talking about replacing the intercooler, which is not a bad idea. My last turbo car (2.0T caddy ats) had the radiator go out because of the plastic ends. If the aftermarket option is built better, I dont see why it wouldn't be a good idea. Only thing is I would only buy one after warranty ends lol
I had a 2015 F150 with the 2.7 that was tuned and it lived a hard life with 0 issues. 80k miles in 3 years either pulling a loaded trailer or with the bed full most every weekend. Loved that truck.
Had the V same engine in my 2016. No complaints here. Strong motor no issues!
I wouldnt go over 3k mile oil changes on that boosted engine. unless you add a catch can system. The rings get plugged insanely fast unfortunately then you get oil consumption issues with these
I have a 2023 2 door outer banks 2.7 , only 5k miles so far but 100% great as of now
Awesome! Enjoy it 👍
Is Ford still utilizing the internal water pump? I had the 3.5 years ago, what a night that was.
What would recommend for extreme cold weather for oil weight? Extreme heat? What’s your thoughts on oil catch cans? Dual or single oil catch can?
I put 5w40 synthetic oil in my 2.7 during the summer. Direct injection plus turbos plus 195f thermostat is very hard on the oil. I change oil every 4 months
Your knowledge is amazing, such good pointers after that excellent explanation 👏
Thank you!
Great video! Looking forward to the new ones.
Would 7,500 mile intervals be ok if it's mainly highway miles?
Would this be similar to the 2.0 Bronco Sport? I have a BS Badlands so am curious.
Time will tell I guess. I will be changing my oil with 100% synthetic every 3 to 5 k miles depending on my oil samples. Of course that is my personal belief. Turbos require oil maintenance to keep them healthy 👍. Thanks for watching
@@DrivenWildOutdoors this is my first turbo so good to know. Thanks!
i would NEVER go over 4k miles on an oil change on a turbo car ! Turbos destroy oil! the heat they generate plus theyre spinning at over 300k rpm. cheaper to change oil than engine. But i would NEVER buy a turbo car or truck as a daily driver . been a tech for 36 years and every turbo car i've worked on is pissing oil burning anti-freeze.
@@peterpeter5666 I have since moved and have gone from driving about 24k miles a year to 5k a year. I was planning on changing to a 6 month/2500 mile interval. Would you recommend something different? Not sure if it matters these days but It's more city type driving but not stop and go type at least.
@@newsforcous I have been doing oil changes on my car every 4k with liquid molly full synthetic oil. Costs me about 60.00 every 4-6 months. I'm sure in the states it's cheaper.
I have a 18 F150 with the 2.7 and love it 325 hp 400ftlb torque
How many miles on it?
So, in terms of reliability, I'm hearing several different things about the 2.7L, some of which seem to indicate better longevity and some of which don't. Port as well as direct injection: good. Limited pressure coming from belt-driven oil pump: not necessarily good. Oil filter is cheaper cartridge type as opposed to standard metal cylinder like on the 2.3L. How best do I wrap my head around expected longevity and reliability when comparing the 2.7L to the 2.3L? Thank you, nice videos!
Really enjoyed this.Thx.
I enjoy changing the oil myself... Good thing about a Sasquatch or even a base model is no jacking or ramps required.. Just slide under and reach up...
Yes, the only added step is removing the front bash plate to access the oil drain plug.
That’s good to know as my husband was inquiring about doing the oil. Full synthetic or synthetic blend? Which is better?!
@@deidrepaez5263 My personal opinion is full synthetic, I asked my dealer if that would void the warranty and they stated no.
However synthetic blend is fine as well I think the frequency of the oil change and the driving habits dictate more. I’m doing a video on the 2.3 L where I’m going to talk in depth about turbos and why oil in Boosted engines are very closely connected
@@DrivenWildOutdoors thank you so much! Your video has helped me tremendously!
I "exercise" my 2017 Ford Fusion Sport 2.7L Twin-Turbo AWD waste-gates everyday when I drive to and from work. 75% of the road trip to and from work is highway. lol Also, since my car is a 2017 2.7L EcoBoost, to resolve the singular Direct Injection recirculation of smoke back into the intake, I've put an after-market Oil Catch can to capture any airborne "sludge" that might leak towards the intake valve.
How much oil do you normally catch in about a 5000 mile duration?
Will Ford's belt change interval is 90 to 150,000 mi pull the engine pull the front cover pull the oil pan and replace the drive belt for the oil pump.
@@n.elliott9122 I don’t know. Considering that pan is a 1 time use item if I have to replace my oil pump belt I will probably up for an aftermarket aluminum pan.
Great video. Im considering getting a Ranger with this engine and your explanations and presentation has helped.
Excellent honest technical review; Regards from an Automotive Technician in Australia.
Thank you!
what are your thoughts on the oil catch can topic? I heard you mention the dual injection helps keep it cleaner, but would we be removing the cooling effect with a catch can? Would that damage or wear anything out? Bottom line, do you think a catch can is a good idea or not for this engine?
I like your vides, you talk FACTS, not speculation clickbait like Scotty Kilmer! Look into Top Tier fuel, it's a huge advantage in performance and longevity
Thank you! And I agree with the fuel.
Expensive gas
Really enjoyed this video. Haven't received my Bronco yet an plan to do some maintenance work to it myself. I learned alot about the 2.7 I didn't know.
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for this video! My wife and I are still anxiously awaiting the production email. We placed our first order in July of 2021, and just placed the MY2022 order a few weeks ago (Cactus Grey, Outer Banks, 2.7, Sasquatch). Hoping we get it in the next 6 months; we're currently keeping a 2004 5.4 Expedition with 250,000 miles on it alive; she's read to be retired from active duty!
We sold our 2004 Eddie Bauer expedition with a 5.4 L at 280+ thousand miles 😎 we should’ve kept it for farm use. It was a beast!
Thanks for watching! And I hope you get your Broncos sooner than you expect 👍
So I should always use premium?
What if cheap gas is used in combination of octane boosters or fuel additives
How often to change oil pump belt…? That sounds really scary to me.
I do not know
Great info especially on the dual injection. You mentioned carbon build up still being a possibility; would you recommend getting an oil catch can? Or what are your thoughts on them being installed on this engine?
I have never installed one personally however I do know that they are supposed to help separate the oil and moisture, however I do not think manufactures will allow it while it’s under warranty however I am researching that to find out. I will probably do a video on that one day because it’s not so much an issue on the new bronco however on an order eco-boost of some type it may be beneficial. But I have to do more research to make sure
Hmm. It’d be unfortunate if that voided the warranty. There was a ford engineer over on 6g who mentioned it might be a good idea to get one and I wanted your $0.02 as well.
Thanks for responding
@@DrivenWildOutdoors I had one on my Mustang ecoboost never had any warranty issues with it on even after the block cracked.
@@tylerwatson9836 Yeah I’m trying to confirm it first hand for myself. I definitely don’t want to give anyone bad advice. However there will probably be one on my Badlands here very soon and of course will video it
As soon as I get confirmation that it will not void the warranty I will pass it on. If I’m not mistaken they come factory on the Shelby’s
Catch can is a fine idea on a turbo engine. There should never be a warranty issue - after all, it removes more crud from the intake tract therefore keeping the engine cleaner in the long run. The only trick is make sure you empty the can regularly,; do not let it fill up, especially if you are in a clod weather climate (like Canada)
As others have said - This is an excellent video - thankyou
Thank you,Bob
196 Cubic inches on the 2.7... 213 on the 3.5..... Carbon Created from the PVC System.. I put a oil catch/separator can on my Powerboost
What are your thoughts about putting an oil catch can on the 2.7?
My cars always lasted a long time. When I buy a new car, I take it 4 hours in one direction and then 4 hours back, after 6 hours stop for some food, start it back up, your last 2 hours drive it like your stole it, then pull into your garage and change the oil and filter. If it's hot out the AC on max the whole time and cold the heat on with high fan. Gotta get everything moving and jelling together.
Good info. Can you address concerns about the plastic oil pan and the funky oil plug that is reportedly fragile and needs replacing when the oil is changed?
yes, In my oil change video I will. Thanks for watching!
Get yourself a Ronin replacement oil plug to replace the garbage yellow plastic plug. Best 80 bucks you’ll ever spend. And stops the oil from splashing all over the sway bar. I attach a plastic tube to the nipple so I can direct the oil flow. Never spill a drop again.
I have been hoping someone would do a video on this engine. My Bronco is in production right now, love the info!
Thank you for watching!
Great run down! Toyota guy here and other half has to have a bronco. So Im still a Toyota guy lol but at least you gave me some hope to see past 100k. Doubt 300k but guess we will see.
Again, thanks 💪👍🇺🇸
Firm believer in a 5k syn regular oil change regiment⚔️
Absolutely, thank you for watching
Just got my wildtrak and your detailed information was nice .. thank you !!!
Thank you for watching!
I do cars youtube channel tore a couple 2.7's apart and the oil pump belt had cracks showing around 100k miles. I think the concern is not it totally breaking but rubber breaking off getting in the oil although i have not seen any videos of one failing or destroying the engine.
This is cool, I am planning on doing something at the Lima,OH plant about the engine. Great video with great details..This is the best explanation on the internet.
Thank you!
@@DrivenWildOutdoors added it to 6g lots of great comments, I am not alone.
@@DR.Detroit11 Thank you! I appreciate that
But why the oil pump belt they should gear it or chain it
@@johnp.2276 I would rather have a chain however they use the rubber built to cut down on parasitic loss
From the stories of friends and dealerships the 2.7 is the most reliable engine in an f150 currently. Even over the 5.0. That being due to the cylinder cut off it’s doing now like Chevy has done for years. For someone like me with a v8 04 f150 I’d love the 2.7 ecoboost. I don’t trust the 3.5, love the power but I don’t trust it. So I’d go 2.7 all day long. They’d bank if they brought it to the next gen Ranger too.
Ghillie Man Reviews --- I just read on the Ford Website that the 2024 Ranger is coming with the 2.7L Ecoboost V6 engine... The previous engine in 2023 is the 2.3L Ecoboost 4 cylinder...
@@frandanco6289 oh yea I’ve been keeping up with it
So.... avoid the 1st gen 2.7? Wondering if i should avoid turbos altogether and get a 5.0 with the overall crappier fuel mileage. But I drive up to 30k miles a year, so it adds up.
First, I don’t recommend either way. , but understanding the details of the 1st Gen can assist you in upgrades or maintenance intervals
Nice video. Do you recommend a catch can for this motor? TIA
Great job. Looking forward to hearing your take on the 10R60.
Thank you for this video. Say you're running down the freeway and turn off to gas up (Chevron or Shell, right?). How long should you let the engine idle to allow the turbines to spool down and dissipate all the heat from the road? EDIT: You are answering my questions with your "Turbo Etiquette" video. I'm off to watch that now.
Thank you for watching! I hope the videos helps
Fantastic video and a great breakdown of some key features. Here's a question you've probably heard a million times, but what is your oil recommendation? I know the OE spec is a semi-synth blend - did you go this route with your reduced service interval or go with a full synthetic approach?
Mobil 1 full synthetic 5W-30 with a Motorcraft oil filter every 5K miles. Keep it simple.
Any updates on the 2.7 in the 2023 broncos? Still reliable?
Do you know if the 3.0 eco boost has oil pump wet belt like this one?
@@jarrodhayne560 yes, it does.
Super informative and easily understandable...especially for us non engine builders..Thank you...on both Motors available...I want the manual n feel more confident with the 2.3....esp. if its geared right in my mind..
Cheers...Thank you
Thank you for watching!
Just got my Badlands 2.7 and loving it. Wondering which octane you’re putting in yours? I’m going back and forth between 88 and 91 but want to decide on a fuel and stick with it rather than switching back and forth.
93 for max power (and max life)....but expensive obviously.
Until my first oil change I have been using 87, after 2 k I will switch to premium. It depends on your driving habits. 87 will do fine, however premium will give you the 2.7's true potential. I will be doing a video on gas soon.
I have this engine in my f150 supercrew. Ford uses an adaptive tuning of sorts and the vehicle adjusts things like timing and boost to whatever grade of fuel you are running. I mainly run 87 myself because its a daily driver i run a tank of 93 if im towing my jeep .
I put a catch can on my 2019F150 as soon as I got it. It's surprising how much gunk goes back into the intake every 3,000mi
Would love to see similar videos for Bronco Sports (maybe cover both 3- and 4-cyl in one video).
We are doing a video on the 2.3 four-cylinder and then I will be digging in deep with the bronco sports in the very near future.
Thanks for your comment and watching the video!
Excellent video. Subscribed. Exactly what I was looking for and found it first try. Hope this gets raised to top of search as it's excellent info.
Thank you for checking out our channel. The handful of articles that are being circulated around the Internet is nothing more than a smear campaign in my humble opinion.
I don’t think the competition wants me to start listing their issues. Lol
I know it's subjective but what Full Synthetic do you recommend for the 2.7 in the Bronco?
@@stormsturckow I do not typically recommend products..
However, I am using motorcraft full synthetic in both of our Broncos
Thank you for this video I just subscribed, I just received my all-wheel-drive 2.0 L maverick about three weeks ago and my bronco is scheduled to be built at the end of November can’t wait. I’m about to upload a video on the Mavericks 0-60 times and first driving impression. Also I work for Ford and your video taught me some things I did not know about the 2.7 L👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you for the kind words and comment. And a big congratulations on getting the Maverick 💪. I will check out your video once it’s uploaded.
@@DrivenWildOutdoors much appreciated 👍🏽👍🏽
what is your opinion on oil catch can on this engine. I appreciate it
Well, like I tell everyone, I cannot recommend any modifications to an engine.
However, I personally run catch cans on my engines and every time I empty out the canister it makes me feel that much better knowing that that’s not coding the intake valves.
The dual injection helps however the port injection on these engines are more for idle and low speed, and not necessarily for under boost winch, is when you’re going to have most of the vapor being created .
I’ll comment later with the oil catch can video install that is on my channel
Thanks for a very informative and helpful video. We have 700 miles on our Badlands. I'm going to do the initial oil change next weekend (1000 miles) and plan on using Amsoil OE 5W-30 fully synthetic. Do you have any thoughts on Amsoil products in the 2.7? Thanks.
Amsoil makes a very good product. They were one of the first and definitely The first household name to sell synthetic. Have you seen my oil change video? You just want to make sure the oil is APR rated for SN plus, and in particular that it’s made for boosted engines. The rule of thumb is make sure all of the ratings match the manufacturers suggestions
@@DrivenWildOutdoors Thanks for the reply. I compared Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5w-30 to Amsoil's fully synthetic OE 5w-30. Both reduce LSPI, meet SN Plus, and service ILSAC GF-5 .
The only difference I see is that Motorcaft states that it meets API SN while Amsoil said they meet API SP and SM. I don't know oil specs, so is that anything to be concerned with?
Thank you for this knowledge and making the video. My Wildtrak is in production this week, I am getting very squirrely with the wait!
You are going to love the Bronco. We are expecting 12 to 15 “ of snow this weekend. Make sure you subscribe to our channel to watch from my live stream of letting that 2.7 loose in the snow.
@@DrivenWildOutdoors Ahh thank you very much! I moved down South from the Northeast years ago, no more snow, but we sure got plenty of sand! The wait is killing me.
Thank you for explaining very clearly appreciate it and you and your Channel and content 👍
Thank you!
I own a 2020 F150 2.7l Echoboost.. so far so good... I cannot even change oil do a Ford dealer does it.. I do change my 3.3l incline 4 cylinder 91 year old 40HP 31' ford no problem... my 31' engine has next to zero oil pressure.. ;)
Excellent presentation! Thanks for posting.
Was the gen 2 Nano put into the 2018 Fusion Sport, or did they stick with the gen 1 for the life cycle of the Fusion's production?
I will check, it may have been a blended Year, so both could have been used.
Thanks for the excellent information about the 2.7.
Thank you for watching
Thanks for the break down. I wae looking at a 24 Ranger with the 2.7. Was a little worried it would be a big mistake. Not loving the belt in the oil, but i use good oil and change often.
You’ll have to wait a little bit for the 2.7 as the 2.3 is the only engine available currently. Ford says it will be out this fall
Thanks so much for this video. I think you've really made me and I'm sure a great many others feel more confident in our investment in the new Bronco 2.7. Excellent content here!
Thank you! We appreciate you watching
So is this the exact 2.7 in the F150's?
Would like to know why 3.5 cam phasers rattle more often compared to 2.7 ? Gen 2 for both engines
What about the rubber belt that drives the oil pump that is soaked in synthetic oil I heard it destroys
Belt .
Can you do a feature on the 3.0 EcoBoost Ford Bronco Raptor engine
Yes, We are waiting to have a Raptor to show in the video. Thank you for watching our channel
i got a 2020 f150 w a 2.7L and i just did my first oil change and when i put the 6 qt.s of oil in it i just drove it home about 5 miles then turned it off waited 5 min. to check it and it is at the very top of the full line instead of in between the two holes in the dipstick like it was from the factory. the guy at the oil change place checked it first before i did the oil change and said it was low but to me it was perfect in between the full and low marks, what do you think
Well I can tell you my bronco from the factory is slightly above the top of the hashmarks, The F1 50 per Ford holds 6 quarts, The bronco per Ford hold seven, however I don’t know if anybody’s been able to get 7 quarts in the 2.7 bronco and not overfill it.
Generally speaking anywhere in the hashmarks especially center is considered good.