After 15 years shooting RE as a full-time job, I never have agents or vendors care about issues like 'the light and panel distorting' differences you show here...I think we really do fuss over the most minor issues that most people wouldnt notice.
I absolutely agree. I think most of my clients don't even realize the difference when I switch between HDR and Flash. But I wanted to be thorough for this review.
I usually use 16mm for Photos and 12mm for video on the Sony A7IV. And for detail shots i use 24-70 mm. But if you have to choose one, I'll get the 16-24 for flexibility.
Great video! I guess an advantage of the 12-24 is if you use a Sony A7IV (or most cameras that cannot do 50p 4k uncropped) in super35 you still have a decent wide shot opening all the way to 12mm ->the resulting 18mm cropped is still pretty good At 16 you end up with 24mm. Too narrow really
yeah thats a great point, that 4K 60 crop is tricky with the a74 but I agree 18mm would work although in a perfect world a 10mm lens x 1.5 crop = 15mm would be ideal.
Nice man back at you! good call on the clear image zoom, thats something I haven't played around with. zooming on the 24-70 GM has fried my gimbal motors more than once.
Of course, when you frame every shot for 16m, and the try to apply 12m to it, the composition will be off. Sounds like you’re just trying to come up with an excuse not to buy the 12-24m, fine, fair game, but really what you should be doing is reframing that gets the best out of the lens’ you’re using. Framing for 12m lets you get closer to subject while showing more, in small tight spaces this is a boon, not a deterrent. You shot for 16, not for 12, doesn’t make sense.
My main lens is actually the Sigma 14-24, so fair to assume that I'm bringing some bias towards the 12mm. That being said, 12mm still just feels too wide in my opinion for most shots. You're right that I could move the tripod, but in my tests the objects tend to distort even more, personally I didn't find it useful. My intention isn't to steer anyone towards the 16-35, my hope is that this video helped you make a more informed decision if you were considering buying one of these lenses. Thanks for the comment!
I’m just starting out in RE photography and count every dollar I spend on gear. As a beginner I know I won’t be shooting million dollar homes. What should I get for your regular ranch style homes under 2500 sq ft where rooms are tight and not the size of my whole house lol ? I’m a canon shooter. My budget for a lens is modest. Thank you.
Have you watched my 2024 camera recommendations video on the channel? I cover the Canon RF options. If you're shooting APS-C you basically have to two options like $300 for the cheap lens or a $2000 for the f2.8 lens. I think they have 3 wide angle lens options in their full frame lineup. Check out that video for the specifics th-cam.com/video/5iGZ9xoaAVo/w-d-xo.html
these are full frame lenses, you'd need to go aps-c. Watch my 2024 camera recommendations video, I talk about the a-6700 and there is a sigma wide angle aps-c lens that I think would pair well with that camera
@@fulltimerep ok thank you! I think I found the lens and the Sony version as well. I almost pulled the trigger last night on an A7IV camera but alas I may need to wait.
can you explain me why any of this matters? most videography youtube channels are promoting iphone over all high end cameras and the comments are loving it. why should I invest in anything not iphone?
That's a question you'll have to answer for yourself. I shoot high end real estate, can you imagine showing up to a property valued over $10 million+ with an iphone, the impression that sends to the client? It all depends on what market you're in, what the clients want, and more importantly how you want to position yourself as a brand. Hope this helps.
It is not really about one or the other when shooting real estate.. I am always carrying with me two bodies and since i am using Nikon, I have always 14-30 and 24-120 with me..
that's awesome! would be ideal to have two bodies and both lenses, this analysis is for those people who need to make a decision to just buy one, especially beginners.
I'll paste the same response I provided to Sterling Sanders below, but yes it's highly likely I bring some bias against using the 12mm. Hopefully the video helped demonstrate some practical differences between these two lenses on the job and make an informed decision. Thanks for the comment! "My main lens is actually the Sigma 14-24, so fair to assume that I'm bringing some bias towards the 12mm. That being said, 12mm still just feels too wide in my opinion for most shots. You're right that I could move the tripod, but in my tests the objects tend to distort even more, personally I didn't find it useful. My intention isn't to steer anyone towards the 16-35, my hope is that this video helped you make a more informed decision if you were considering buying one of these lenses."
After 15 years shooting RE as a full-time job, I never have agents or vendors care about issues like 'the light and panel distorting' differences you show here...I think we really do fuss over the most minor issues that most people wouldnt notice.
I absolutely agree. I think most of my clients don't even realize the difference when I switch between HDR and Flash. But I wanted to be thorough for this review.
The 12-24mm works great for shoots. I've been using it for years for interiors on Sony and Nikon. Great job on the video. Have a great day!
Thanks for the comment, agree its a great choice for interiors!
I usually use 16mm for Photos and 12mm for video on the Sony A7IV. And for detail shots i use 24-70 mm. But if you have to choose one, I'll get the 16-24 for flexibility.
exactly, the 16-35 is more of jack of all trades
Learned a lot of valuable information about lens options from watching this video. Appreciate the insights!
Glad it was helpful!
Which wide lens good for sony apsc camera
So informative video .. professional explanation 😊
Thanx buddy ❤
you bet!
Great video! I guess an advantage of the 12-24 is if you use a Sony A7IV (or most cameras that cannot do 50p 4k uncropped) in super35 you still have a decent wide shot opening all the way to 12mm ->the resulting 18mm cropped is still pretty good
At 16 you end up with 24mm. Too narrow really
yeah thats a great point, that 4K 60 crop is tricky with the a74 but I agree 18mm would work although in a perfect world a 10mm lens x 1.5 crop = 15mm would be ideal.
The 35mm Gmaster is my choice for tights. I use clear image zoom if I need to go tighter.
Great video man. Keep them coming.
Nice man back at you! good call on the clear image zoom, thats something I haven't played around with. zooming on the 24-70 GM has fried my gimbal motors more than once.
Definitely give it a go. It can save you a bit of time 👊
Of course, when you frame every shot for 16m, and the try to apply 12m to it, the composition will be off. Sounds like you’re just trying to come up with an excuse not to buy the 12-24m, fine, fair game, but really what you should be doing is reframing that gets the best out of the lens’ you’re using. Framing for 12m lets you get closer to subject while showing more, in small tight spaces this is a boon, not a deterrent. You shot for 16, not for 12, doesn’t make sense.
My main lens is actually the Sigma 14-24, so fair to assume that I'm bringing some bias towards the 12mm. That being said, 12mm still just feels too wide in my opinion for most shots. You're right that I could move the tripod, but in my tests the objects tend to distort even more, personally I didn't find it useful. My intention isn't to steer anyone towards the 16-35, my hope is that this video helped you make a more informed decision if you were considering buying one of these lenses. Thanks for the comment!
Great video dude. Hope all is well!
Thanks! You too!
Great video! No fluff!
Thank you! 😊
I’m just starting out in RE photography and count every dollar I spend on gear. As a beginner I know I won’t be shooting million dollar homes. What should I get for your regular ranch style homes under 2500 sq ft where rooms are tight and not the size of my whole house lol ? I’m a canon shooter. My budget for a lens is modest. Thank you.
Have you watched my 2024 camera recommendations video on the channel? I cover the Canon RF options. If you're shooting APS-C you basically have to two options like $300 for the cheap lens or a $2000 for the f2.8 lens. I think they have 3 wide angle lens options in their full frame lineup. Check out that video for the specifics
th-cam.com/video/5iGZ9xoaAVo/w-d-xo.html
Which one of those lenses would you recommend if I'm getting a Sony a6700 APS-C camera, for real estate?
these are full frame lenses, you'd need to go aps-c. Watch my 2024 camera recommendations video, I talk about the a-6700 and there is a sigma wide angle aps-c lens that I think would pair well with that camera
@@fulltimerep ok thank you! I think I found the lens and the Sony version as well. I almost pulled the trigger last night on an A7IV camera but alas I may need to wait.
Nice video!
Thanks!
can you explain me why any of this matters? most videography youtube channels are promoting iphone over all high end cameras and the comments are loving it. why should I invest in anything not iphone?
That's a question you'll have to answer for yourself.
I shoot high end real estate, can you imagine showing up to a property valued over $10 million+ with an iphone, the impression that sends to the client? It all depends on what market you're in, what the clients want, and more importantly how you want to position yourself as a brand. Hope this helps.
Thank you
Welcome!
Greats , thanks bro
Welcome 👍
The best len for real eatet is the sigma 14-24 2.8
I have one and agree it's a great lens!
Sigma 14-24 f2.8 or Sony 12-24 f4 for both real estate video and photos?
I’m using Sony zv-e1
@@whatthefitt 12mm will be better, but f4 for video i don't like, i will go with the 2.8, even 12mm is the best for videos
Sir i need a camera which can shoot a ultra wide video i want to capture like ants eye 😢
you probably want a gopro or a fisheye lens
@@fulltimerep which is best with test plz make a short with ultra wide angle
It is not really about one or the other when shooting real estate.. I am always carrying with me two bodies and since i am using Nikon, I have always 14-30 and 24-120 with me..
that's awesome! would be ideal to have two bodies and both lenses, this analysis is for those people who need to make a decision to just buy one, especially beginners.
nice
Thanks
Giving all those excuses for 16-35 when everyone else recommends the widest lens as possible. Maybe you just don’t know how to frame with 12mm?
I'll paste the same response I provided to Sterling Sanders below, but yes it's highly likely I bring some bias against using the 12mm. Hopefully the video helped demonstrate some practical differences between these two lenses on the job and make an informed decision. Thanks for the comment!
"My main lens is actually the Sigma 14-24, so fair to assume that I'm bringing some bias towards the 12mm. That being said, 12mm still just feels too wide in my opinion for most shots. You're right that I could move the tripod, but in my tests the objects tend to distort even more, personally I didn't find it useful. My intention isn't to steer anyone towards the 16-35, my hope is that this video helped you make a more informed decision if you were considering buying one of these lenses."