Better than Adventure: Minecraft Beta Persisting

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  • @jonkadelic
    @jonkadelic ปีที่แล้ว +2055

    BTA lead dev here - thank you for the glowing review! This is a really well-thought-out and professional video that does a great job telling people about the spirit behind the project. It's great to see creators engaging with BTA and making videos about it, especially ones this good.

    • @binguschondo
      @binguschondo  ปีที่แล้ว +177

      thank you so much for your work! i appreciate the kind words about the video, and i can't wait to see where the project goes next :)

    • @EvilParagon4
      @EvilParagon4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Does it work with the original Aether 1 mod for back on 1.7.3?
      That would make this mod the absolute perfect beta experience for me.

    • @Haune333
      @Haune333 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@EvilParagon4i believe there is a port of the aether for it

    • @EvilParagon4
      @EvilParagon4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Haune333 Sweet, sounds like good fun. Anything for Mo' Creatures? I assume not, since even though Mo' Creatures is open source now, it doesn't seem to really be cared about anymore. Though it's such an iconic mod it actually got its primary feature (horses) into the vanilla game eventually. Literally DrZhark made MC's horses.

    • @pman56789
      @pman56789 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@EvilParagon4 The comment that replied to you is wrong, there is currently no port of the Aether to work with BTA. In fact, as of update 1.7.6, BTA is not compatible with any other mods for Beta 1.7.3.
      However, BTA does have its own small modding community, and a few mods for vanilla b1.7.3 such as Tropicraft HAVE been ported. As I said before though, the Aether hasn't been ported yet, but there is a skylands dimension planned for later BTA versions.

  • @cthuluroo
    @cthuluroo ปีที่แล้ว +1032

    It’s ok Bingus, you can be a Minecraft channel, we understand

  • @JothB
    @JothB ปีที่แล้ว +534

    Seeing a notification for this literally as I'm playing BTA was incredible. I'm so glad this mod is getting more and more coverage because it genuinely deserves it

    • @woozie40
      @woozie40 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      just had the same happen to me

  • @MovedBoxMan
    @MovedBoxMan ปีที่แล้ว +510

    I think the main problem with modern MC is they will reveal features and then said features end up being released and often don't have any real purpose.

    • @bramblifr
      @bramblifr ปีที่แล้ว +95

      copper

    • @user-fx4hp2em8s
      @user-fx4hp2em8s ปีที่แล้ว +80

      It lost its magic for me whenever they made all the colors dull. The game just doesn't feel as vibrant as it used to

    • @biko8341
      @biko8341 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@user-fx4hp2em8sThe Minecraft legacy version had faded colors but I think there is something wrong I don't think the colors are the main problem

    • @DumbArse
      @DumbArse ปีที่แล้ว +72

      ​@@bramblifrWhat do you mean? You can just craft copper golems that can help with automated farms! Oh wait.....

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bramblifr Depending on what further changes take place, it'll have a place in redstone.. I'm hoping it will, at least.

  • @bepkoyt
    @bepkoyt ปีที่แล้ว +190

    The fact that they've included the painted planks is also kinda funny as, if I remember correctly, Mojang wanted to implement them in release 1.7, but they decided to add Acacia and Dark Oak instead
    But overall interesting video! (And the whole channel also, I've never commented on one of your videos before, but you tell these Minecraft history stories in an interesting way, while I don't really watch other Minecraft content anymore)

    • @viniciusgoulart5077
      @viniciusgoulart5077 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Mojang had to choose between adding different wood types or adding colored planks. BTA chose both lol

    • @ricedanan
      @ricedanan ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I think chose not to after realizing they would need to also add slabs and stairs for each colored planks which would rapidly fill up the limited Block and Item IDs. The Block and Item ID limit was rectified in 1.13's Flattening but in exchange the performance tanked into the depths of Hell.

    • @SaishoVibes
      @SaishoVibes ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ricedanan 1.15 and 1.20 have been surprisingly good performance updates

    • @SnrubSource
      @SnrubSource ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeah, imo Mojang made a big mistake by tying wood color to wood types but it's super convenient for them since they can just effortlessly push a new wood type every update to keep people satisfied. In my opinion, wood types should have their own patterns instead of just recolored regular wood, and each wood type should be dyable. Kinda like how each door has a different texture.

    • @ShiroCh_ID
      @ShiroCh_ID ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SnrubSource 1.20 goes almost in that direction
      if you looks at the new bamboo things and sakura(or cherry)

  • @Letseatsomepizza
    @Letseatsomepizza ปีที่แล้ว +152

    5:30, funny thing, at 0:46 in the Minecraft Beta 1.8 Trailer, you can actually see the XP bar saying "Skill Points". They probably recorded the trailer near the end of development but cut the feature because they knew that would be way too strange for Minecraft.

    • @evdestroy5304
      @evdestroy5304 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's probably the same thing with a different name.

    • @Pen_Slinger
      @Pen_Slinger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's interesting, I wonder if the Enchantment Table was originally going to be skill tree table where we could enhance our stats with each upgrade counting as a level up?

  • @RyPieEye
    @RyPieEye ปีที่แล้ว +349

    BTA is one of my favorite mods for any game ever. It's genuinely just well made and fun. I'd like to also see other old minecraft get covered because some of them also really strike a chord with me

  • @DannYIIF
    @DannYIIF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    The take that modern and old minecraft are different experiences is the right one.
    Modern versions are very 'stuffed' - lots of stuff to to, many adventures to be had, lots of things to run after, lots of big goals to reach. It’s full of extrinsic rewards. Riight up until it very suddenly isn’t. You build, explore, collect, then you kill the dragon, get the wings - and there’s no more rewards and bored out of your skull after you put mending on the wings. It is a _completable_ experience with the option to go endless. Many people, me not excluded, struggle with the 'optionality' of open ended play. I have learned a way to keep my worlds going for a very long time in modern versions - I progress as slowly as I can, and I roleplay as an explorer/builder without a set goal, I have a diary, make maps, I keep a billboard with projects I want to make. I've been on my current hardcore world for over a year now, and I have not been to the nether, I still wear iron armor, and I haven’t enchanted a single thing yet.
    Retro versions are the opposite - you get a handful of viable building/decoration blocks, capable but not busted toolsets, and zero objectives. You sort of just play. In that setting it feels easier to keep going, as well as it’s easier to restrain yourself from burning out.
    In the end of the day, I am enjoying both of the minecraft experiences, and I am very glad there’s an easy way to play either.

  • @ultragalacticgamer7195
    @ultragalacticgamer7195 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Whats funny about BTA is that this mod has its own mods, and texture packs made by the community and I think even its own custom mod loader “babric” might be wrong though.
    Mods called “Better Than Waila” straight up ports waila into BTA.
    I saw a tech and magic mod.
    And all sorts of other mods

    • @colbyboucher6391
      @colbyboucher6391 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That's the advantage of it being a fork. People can start taking advantage of things like the increased world height and new direction.
      I have a bit of a dream of making a Rebirth of the Night-like mod for it. Much more simple than RotN but the same goal of making building more purposeful by including a lot of "tower defense" focused blocks and making mobs very capable of reaching you anyways at specific intervals (right when seasons change, conveniently.)

    • @Generic_Noob
      @Generic_Noob ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It’s similar to Create mod addons and to some extent, the unofficial GregTech versions

    • @ShiroCh_ID
      @ShiroCh_ID ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yep BTA's own Fabric Modloader was Called Babric or BTA Babric since i think Babric was for Official Betas

    • @mosshivenetwork117
      @mosshivenetwork117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex's caves

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy ปีที่แล้ว +6

      >tech and magic
      "We removed potions and enchanting because they're too unlike Minecraft. Anyway, here's technology and literal spells."

  • @afk3661
    @afk3661 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    artist for the mod here- i'm glad to see people covering the recent updates, and this video does an amazing job at it
    there's a few features i got to work on for this update such as mob texture variants, sign pictograms, and more, and while they aren't important (some are super obscure like customizable tooltips), i'm curious as to people's thoughts on them. if you ever make a part 2 (maybe when the next update, 7.1 releases), you should cover them

    • @binguschondo
      @binguschondo  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      thank you for your work!! every bit of it is important. i especially liked the sign customization features! adds a lot more use to them. i’ll be keeping up with each update! :)

  • @Levi___Ramirez
    @Levi___Ramirez ปีที่แล้ว +159

    I personally think the best thing about this mod compared to modern Minecraft is that blocks, materials, etc. all have MULTIPLE USES. You brought up the problem of inventory management issues in this mod, which I agree with. But, there are things you can do with each material where there are fun and interesting ways to address it without just simply limiting the amount of blocks in the game. The one that comes to my head right off the bat is The Trommel block that converts dirt blocks and gravel you have lying around into clay balls, pebbles (which can be used to craft more cobblestone) and other light materials. Sure the pebbles and flint and etc. you get from the Trommel could also contribute to the inventory issue but most times I simply craft more cobble or add to my gunpowder reserve from blocks that would of have just sat in a chest in waiting until a big project or something.
    Modern Minecraft lacks this, and mostly encourages you to simply hoard blocks for no reason other than there isn't much to do outside of very specific interactions or recipes, and Mojang's solution isn't to add interactable blocks like the Trommel, but rather give you more means to store things (Double chests being able to be placed next to each other after the longest time, Shulker boxes, bundles whenever those get finished, etc.)
    But yeah, great video! Glad you covered this beautiful mod! Hopefully this gets more people involved and servers start up using it :-)

    • @colbyboucher6391
      @colbyboucher6391 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Glass trap doors are a great example of Minecraft's older "use your imagination, kiddo" philosophy.

    • @medicindisquise4271
      @medicindisquise4271 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Speaking of the Trommel, I quite like how it interacts with Soul Sand. For a block without a lot of use in vanilla, having a reason to get it (free gold ore, iron ore, quartz and glowstone out of trommel) is great.

    • @recarsion
      @recarsion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also love the trommel block, and another nice thing about it is it uses coal to run so while you can get a lot of great stuff from it it's always a trade off. I'm doing a build right now where I'm having to smelt tons of smooth stone (didn't realize gold tools had silk touch so far) so between that and trommeling a lot, I like how coal is more of a scarce resource that I'm still happy to find dozens of hours into the game as opposed to basically just junk that I don't even bother picking up after a while.

  • @CthulhuChris
    @CthulhuChris ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I love this video - I just was playing BTA today and I’m slowly playing that more than modern Minecraft currently.
    I can tell that BTA is a total labour of love and it caught my interest straight away when I saw it for the first time.
    Lately, I really needed a different Minecraft experience, as I could feel myself wanting to take a break from ‘Vanilla’, so I didn’t hesitate to start playing BTA to try it out and boy, did it not disappoint!
    BTA is quickly making me want to play it nearly everyday and I plan on continuing with it for as long as I can.
    I might even introduce it to some of my friends by showing them this video and hopefully setting up a BTA server with them to play on so I can share my experience with BTA and demonstrate how wonderful it is!
    Anyway, keep it up man and thank you very much for making this video!

    • @oscarplant6371
      @oscarplant6371 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you get that server running and are looking for some more players lemme know dude! :)

    • @SnrubSource
      @SnrubSource ปีที่แล้ว +3

      we should collectively start acting like BTA and the other alternate development path mods are vanilla and official Mojang updates are just an elaborate modpack

    • @Apollointhehouse
      @Apollointhehouse ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SnrubSource I already do that, I don't even know what is happening in modern mc

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Apollointhehouse in the words of Yogurt the Wise, "Merchandising!"

  • @zombieranger3410
    @zombieranger3410 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I would suggest if you want to stay on topic, you should take a good look at Vintage Story, a game made by people who used to develop TerraFirmaCraft (a minecraft mod) who didn’t want to be restricted by modding. It has truly bloomed with its own vision and offers a completely different experience despite many mistaking it as a Minecraft texturepack + modpack. One playthrough tells you they are nowhere near the same games.

    • @mosshivenetwork117
      @mosshivenetwork117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The same developers from terrafirmacraft? I thought it looked familiar.

    • @alyceblak1524
      @alyceblak1524 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@mosshivenetwork117 it wasnt made by the terrafirmacraft devs, the devs were minecraft modders who were inspired by TFC to my understanding

    • @mosshivenetwork117
      @mosshivenetwork117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alyceblak1524 oh my baaad

  • @Natillumi
    @Natillumi ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just started playing BTA and im having really fun so far, so this was nice to see in my notifications :D. ALSO, don't stop making videos. Your videos are like 9/10 minimum.

  • @denisdubovik228
    @denisdubovik228 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My gosh. Habit of minecraft community to say that a new feature is "not vanilla" was there from the very start

    • @flowerthencrranger3854
      @flowerthencrranger3854 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ironic that a feature that “killed the game’s original identity” was created before beta 1.7.

    • @thelittleleafeon7988
      @thelittleleafeon7988 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@flowerthencrranger3854 it's literally a classic drama, Minecraft always have this discussion, even before the classic

  • @lloydlejack-official
    @lloydlejack-official ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also, congrats on 9k. I really hope you get over 50k by the end of year, hopefully more.

  • @shalltear159
    @shalltear159 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    would absolutely love to see a "Better than Combat" mod come into existence, and I'm sure that I share that sentiment with many other people.

    • @katfox_cal
      @katfox_cal ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes, absolutely. came down here to see if someone else feels like this

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo ปีที่แล้ว

      So just different combat?

    • @lilpisser124
      @lilpisser124 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@IAm-zo1bo i would imagine it to be a mod with went along the same path as earlier versions not just a difference in combat, but a path without the additions(mistakes) of modern versions.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@IAm-zo1bo Not just "different", but a reversion of the combat mechanics to their pre-1.9 state, aka "The Combat Update". Shields and weapon cooldowns were *extremely* controversial additions to the game, so much so that many PvP servers still use the combat mechanics from 1.7, either using a Bukkit/Spigot plugin, or by simply requiring the client to use that older version.

    • @hdns4
      @hdns4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tissuepaper9962 Sounds like it already exists then. Play on a server with one of those plugins. You could even run your own server with the plugin if you just want to play single player. No need to develop a whole mod for it.

  • @keegan1863
    @keegan1863 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love your videos. Its so refreshing to see high quality content covering older versions of this game and the mods for them. Please consider making a video on Not So Seecret Saturday sometime!

  • @katfox_cal
    @katfox_cal ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I wish people did this for other versions as well. My personal picks for version forks would be 1.7.10, 1.8.9 and 1.12.2, i feel like those are some of the most turning points and i would like to see them expanded in this way.

  • @stealthproductionz6648
    @stealthproductionz6648 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i've been starting to feel the want to go back to minecraft how it use to be but at the same time have more, this was perfect to gain knowledge on the mod. Keep doing great pal!

  • @maplecatstars
    @maplecatstars ปีที่แล้ว +11

    bingus i havent played minecraft in like 6 months, but your videos are always so entertaining and informative that it makes me want to stick around, keep it up & gl on the road to 10k 🎊

  • @tennoki
    @tennoki ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This resonates with me a lot. While I started playing in beta 1.8 and bulk of of my playing time was till release 1.6, I quite enjoyed just caving, collecting resources, planned + expanded my house and farmed. My play was a very crafting table + furnace only style. At some point updates felt more like chunks on top of something complete, in a "look at this new thing that spawns in a completely new biome" that has to be by design not be part of the core gameplay since not everyone spawns there.

  • @tissuepaper9962
    @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the first video of yours that I've watched and the intro really tripped me out. My Steam name has been "bingus" for years, and I've learned to respond to that name as if it were my real name through years of voice comms in CS:GO, so being addressed as "bingus" in the intro gave me a bit of a spook lol. This was a really good review, thorough without being exhaustive and dragging on, you laid out the motivation of the devs and their implementation in a concise narrative while also speaking directly to the frustrations I have had with the official versions of the game and how they've diverged from the atmosphere of the retro versions, which I can best describe as "pleasant loneliness".

  • @KristjanThomasHaaristo
    @KristjanThomasHaaristo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    unironically got goosebumps at 11:59, the visuals of beta 1.7.3 are unmatched in its style and feels like it plays into its strength, modern MC is just too.. modern for no reason in particular

  • @igorsiemann
    @igorsiemann 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember Better Than Wolves being featured in a lot of minecraft talk and videos when I was only 12 years old in 2011, it's crazy to think that its been at least a decade since I've last heard anything about it and it's legacy lives to this day

  • @karlkarl93
    @karlkarl93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent coverage of this mod! Your editing/content quality is a pleasant surprise for the channel size. Cannot wait to see what you do in the future. You have definitely earned the subscriptions! :)

  • @BonkSalsa
    @BonkSalsa ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love your videos, they have such a chill vibe and are really easy to consume. The Minecraft content is great, but I would totally be there for any other games you cover in the future. Keep up the great work!

  • @vinegar6676
    @vinegar6676 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bro, i absolutely adore your video and how older Minecraft versions gain popularity. I recently found out about better than adventure, and, consiquently, Better than wolves which you mentioned! I installed BTW 1.5.2 on my phone using pojav launcher (basically java on android) and i love it! Thank you for the content!

    • @ichimiustin8390
      @ichimiustin8390 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you tell me how did you install the mods on the pojavlauncher beta 1.7.3? All of the tutorials I've found are outdated. I stumbled upon your comment by pure luck, as I have been looking into this mod, and the android port of the java edition. I have a PC, I just wish to get it working on mobile too, as I could take it with me where I go. I've tried changing stuff in the Json, I installed the mod as you usually do on PC, but I still couldn't get it to work.

  • @jakeplushpro
    @jakeplushpro ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Yes! A new video from my favorite mod! More people need to cover Better Than Adventure ASAP!

  • @Kratos7560
    @Kratos7560 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As far as armor went, I had a similar idea that gave armors different combat damage types similar to what you would see in D&D (Slashing, Piercing and Bludgeoning damage) to validate lower tier armors. Glad to see someone had a like-minded concept on armor revamps.

  • @clobzz
    @clobzz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    omfg it actually does look like the legacy console editions, no youre not crazy, as someone that grew up with xbox 360 minecraft from TU1, its my absolute favorite and most nostalgic version ever and i especially liked how it looked and felt in comparison to other versions

  • @YourNeighborNat
    @YourNeighborNat ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting that at least a couple of the blocks suggested by FlowerChild were similar to/the same as those that did end up in Minecraft in some capacity

  • @Kennephone
    @Kennephone ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I personally play 1.12.2, cause that's the last release version before the entire game was overhauled, and everything changed, it also has incredible mod support.

    • @flowerthencrranger3854
      @flowerthencrranger3854 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      So, a worst version than modern minecraft? Apart from server and client performance, I can’t see a reason to why anyone would prefer the old ugly oceans and horrendous world gen.

    • @frcl6
      @frcl6 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@flowerthencrranger3854shut

  • @misterk7_-
    @misterk7_- ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video ,subscribed! Really makes me want to try BTA now as a Retro Minecraft fan. Also I want to point out that the Bloom effect reminds me of the same effect some old Minecraft Machinimas would use.
    EDIT: I'M ALSO REALLY LOVING YOUR CONTENT SO FAR!

  • @cassidycrawford6968
    @cassidycrawford6968 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read the post at 2:41 and holy shit the guy legit just predicted Pistons, Sun/moonlight detectors, and redstone lamps. Like so casually too.

    • @frizer1488
      @frizer1488 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro fym predicted. It often happens that mojang add things to the game from other player’s mods

  • @atomicjedi6230
    @atomicjedi6230 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    18:55 "They're not asking if the mod is better than the adventure update, theres no question mark in the title" - goes insanely hard and i love this line. Could not agree with you more

  • @supergabriel2782
    @supergabriel2782 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *drops an an absolute BANGER*
    "i hope that was ok"

  • @Loy_Otterton
    @Loy_Otterton ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been hosting a small better than adventure server for a group of friends for about a week. It as been a very refreshing experience to relive the classic experience, but to also have the feeling mystery that comes with all the new additions! We explored one of the labyrinths and it was much better and engaging than any current structures, but it was also very simple at the same time.

  • @CreepyboomGamer
    @CreepyboomGamer ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Definitely going to check this out. It looks like a really interesting mod.

  • @lloydlejack-official
    @lloydlejack-official ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great service. Last night i asked for more videos and you delivered 🤣

  • @TheFastfoodcritic
    @TheFastfoodcritic หลายเดือนก่อน

    its so cool to see this stuff being covered that I got to see go down in real time years later

  • @ThePC007
    @ThePC007 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do like the died wooden planks and different stone types since I’ve used a mod that added new plank variants back in 1.7.3 all those years ago (in fact, you used the newly added stone types to dye the planks). It’s almost kinda nostalgic for me. :P

  • @christianautilus374
    @christianautilus374 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really love your approach to the old minecraft topic and the way youre so passionate about making videos in this regard, please dont get corrupted be the youtube money-and-popularity rush, stay as you are man i subrcribed for the way you are right now and i hope you will keep on going by the character and ideals that youve set for yourself. grow big, dont change ♡

  • @NCPBails
    @NCPBails ปีที่แล้ว

    wow another video so soon!
    congrats on 9k

  • @zoominmonkey278
    @zoominmonkey278 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    bro looks like he came straight out of the beegees

  • @depressoforsale
    @depressoforsale ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey, bc! nor really related to the video itself, but I just wanted to say that your content brings an extreme amount of comfiness to my evenings and nights! I really like your approach to video essays and it is just very relaxing but at the same time engaging to listen to you talk about stuff you seem to deeply care about, or at least be very interested in :) your videos proof that modern youtube videos don't have to be extremely loud and fast, that just a dude rambling about stuff could also be enough to entertain. I very happily watch this channel steadily grow and can't wait for new videos! keep up the good work!

  • @kremsnita446
    @kremsnita446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    binguschondo with another banger, how isnt this channel more well-known?

  • @Mikulak25
    @Mikulak25 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Flower child: imma fix wolves

  • @Lambdatories
    @Lambdatories 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:39 I second this, it took me 2 months to discover how good bamboo wood is for early game building

  • @sunlandia2497
    @sunlandia2497 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a 1.5k hour tf2 player I didn't even need to see the reference clip to get the reference. just heard "crouching seems to make it better" and instantly knew where they got the idea.

  • @Minirow
    @Minirow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another banger from the big Chond. 🙏
    I still can't believe how many of these views I align with, but could never quite out into words. I'll definitely be checking this mod out soon!

    • @Minirow
      @Minirow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I meant say "put into words", but don't want to clear the heart. Thanks again though

  • @ZetaPrime77
    @ZetaPrime77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As far as I'm concerned, BTA is the definitive version of Minecraft. I hope people make big servers with it someday

  • @JRHainsworth
    @JRHainsworth ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s also interesting to note that, aside from the 4 enemy mobs, and the hell dimension added by a Halloween update which had no purpose beside being a cool Easter egg, the game was going for pure realism, and 1.8 and beyond was when it moved away from that with potions, the end, enchanting etc.

  • @GotosFaus
    @GotosFaus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who started Minecraft during the beta days but loves what Minecraft has become and enjoys heavily modded Minecraft as well, I can tell BTA would not be for me. But seeing a project like this gain traction has me excited for all you folks out there who *do* enjoy this kind of experience! This video was a very interesting watch, even though I probably won't play BTA myself :)

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth ปีที่แล้ว

    Today I learned three things:
    1. I am Bingus
    2. You are Chondo
    3. I really gotta play this mod

  • @ToufouMaster
    @ToufouMaster ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for this video, i rediscovered this mod recently, and now i'm modding this mod... we are a group of dedicated people who love beta minecraft and we love porting already known mods to BTA, exemples are RetroStorage (Ae2 but easier) FluidAPI for mods including fluids and (mine) BTWaila that port WAILA a modern mod. there is a lot of other mods already done, and hopefully one day we will be able to make modpacks out of it ;D
    Thank you for this video again, BTA has a Discord server you can join ;D Have fun

    • @parallax256
      @parallax256 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's cool as hell man

  • @XaeDae
    @XaeDae ปีที่แล้ว

    not only are all these points amazing, theres also the point that this mod changed so much is spawned an entire community around modding for BTA

  • @DarkThunderism
    @DarkThunderism 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Only shame about the Better than Wolves mod is that it's terrible now.
    It's like- spiritually, Create is now what BTW was.
    And BTW is a hyper-realistic slogfest that doesn't feel like Minecraft.

    • @Gofaw
      @Gofaw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      BTW devolved from a primitive tech mod that fit into Minecraft's vibe to a "what if we make everything harder and more tedious just because" type of mod

    • @DarkThunderism
      @DarkThunderism 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Gofaw Exactly. And for the most part, Create does the whole windmills, shafts and gearboxes thing that made me like BTW back in Beta 1.4

  • @SandmanSw
    @SandmanSw ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently started playing vanilla beta 1.7.3 and I can honestly say that it’s very refreshing to go back and play and it’s just more exciting just the feeling of dying is scary again unlike in modern Minecraft it doesn’t feel like there’s any threat in the game like it does in beta

  • @kaylaa2204
    @kaylaa2204 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A few things I’ve seen in this mod do feel abit bloaty? Like a few features here and there that in my mind exhibit the same problem that produced things like the adventure update and especially modern updates to begin with
    Adding features that are so disconnected from the central mechanics as to bloat the game with unnecessary features.
    In BTA those are things like painted wood, there’s like a sieve thing and pebbles and all this stuff that isn’t really necessary
    However it does do a lot right as well. So I’m kind of on the fence with how I feel about the mod. If I ever took up such a project myself I’d do many things differently but probably also take much inspiration
    I like the concept of replacing enchantment with properties of materials. That’s a cool idea to me. In some ways magic doesn’t fit beta Minecraft, so making it a mundane thing that’s part of the preexisting system instead of creating a whole new non-thematic subsystem makes a lot of sense.
    I feel like the enchanting system in practice feels like a prerequisite before you can actually do what you want. You need an xp farm so you can get all the enchantments you want so you can go off and do your projects. But in beta people were used to “you can get started on your project as soon as you load in if you want”
    The constant adding of subsystems and pointless knobs to turn is anathema to the game in this way. I don’t want the way I play to be complicated more and more with each update. I don’t want the game to be telling me directly or indirectly “you have to do this thing” because again it misses the point
    And when I see BTA do some things that are straying into that territory I fear it becoming what Better than Wolves became over the years. Just as bloated as the modern game but in a different way.

    • @6ypyNDyk
      @6ypyNDyk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The saddest part is that they don't like idea of releasing version that DOESN'T contain all those bload, pure QOL. But they *might* add option to generate full vanilla beta 1.7.3 worlds without generation of new blocks and bioms. If they add this feature, this will be my go-to way to play beta, but now I'll stick to B2B.

  • @gameo7
    @gameo7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way the armor types and tool tiers are implemented are such unique and creative ways to make the game interesting and fun. It allows players to utilize almost all types of tools and armor and not just stick to the most durable like in vanilla minecraft. I also absolutely love how color grading and bloom are implemented!

  • @Zomboik
    @Zomboik ปีที่แล้ว +48

    One of the reasons why modern mc updates feel so unfulfilling compared to old ones is because Notch added things "randomly" many old items wouldn't exist in modern mc because they don't go by mojangs design "rules", creeper is example of that, notch made a mistake when he was making pig and instead created creeper with pig skin, which he then created a greenish monster skin and thus became creeper. You wouldn't see something like that in new updates.
    Another reason is that mojang because souless now and everything they add to mc is designed with kids in mind, updates will always be up, some with more content and some will not much content. "Better than adventure" devs don't have nowhere near as much man power as mojang and yet they poured their heart into this mod, are more connected with playerbase than mojang, who just does rebranding as it wishes and even breaks laws by changing EULA... Even if notch is a shitty person (see what I did there) he shouldn't have sold mc to microsoft. While I love modern minecraft and *most* of it's updates, there's no denying that Mojang has grew disconected from it's fans and became almost souless company that's now trying to actively control everything that has word minecraft in it. (examples new EULA, banning mc content on youtube if they don't like something, telling you how you must use word minecraft, banning mods/servers/plugins with guns, frogs and fireflies, chat monitoring etc.)

  • @DatBisa
    @DatBisa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't believe my favorite not-Minecraft-TH-camr just uploaded their third Minecraft video in a row the moment I got home, about a mod I myself have been playing a ton recently (the dream-like game video was a banger too, keep doing your stuff™!)

  • @nifiga_prikolno
    @nifiga_prikolno ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, Minecraft updates for me became very overwhelming as a part-time player who plays the game just once in a uncertain time period. I started to play it at versions 1.4 and after 1.9 the feature set started to rise so rapidly that I don't know what I have to prioritize during normal survival gameplay after you have established with basic resources, yet after the endgame you're being given many overpowered items which may be unclear on how to obtain without scrolling through the guides or just time consuming and frankly doesn't make me feel rewarded after getting them, yet the QoL improvements of modern versions make me feel like older versions are "literally unplayable", or at least uncomfortable when doing regular stuff. Playing Beta and BTA reminded me of playing the Pocket edition 0.5.X back in the day which is the most enjoying experience of Minecraft I've ever had yet it's not limited to the world size and has some own additions to the game and I finally kinda enjoyed playing Minecraft after a long while

  • @physical_insanity
    @physical_insanity ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't think Adventure was a bad idea, but it wasn't executed the best it could be. Minecraft always felt best when it felt like *your* toybox, when you were the only person in a hostile world that you could tame. Villages would have been cool as like a surface level dungeon and rather than being populated by Testificates, it had zombies in the buildings or something. If Better Than Adventure manages to find a way to incorporate the best elements of the Adventure update into Beta Minecraft, then it'll truly be a mod for the ages, because it's almost perfect right now.

  • @deetsteve00
    @deetsteve00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen this mod being metioned on MinecraftForums and I didn't think anything of it. But seeing this review made me check it out with a different perspective

  • @Trainz2950
    @Trainz2950 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what makes minecraft modding so powerful, especially total conversions, like terra firma craft and BTA/BTW

  • @TwentySeventhLetter
    @TwentySeventhLetter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think we're handily at the point that playing these different versions is a lot more like playing a game and its sequel than the same game. We can appreciate some choices, disagree with others, but ultimately be overjoyed that we get two fantastic games to play depending on the mood we're in. Everything I've heard about BTA has been pretty awesome, so I can't wait to give it a try myself.

  • @ikagura
    @ikagura 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love a "what if we got an alternate timeline" kind of mod.

  • @D17_9
    @D17_9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just played BTA yesterday, I was inspired to do it because I had seen an update video as well as some of your other videos.

  • @JohnDoe-uc5iu
    @JohnDoe-uc5iu ปีที่แล้ว

    Better than wolves is my most favorite mod, it has really well paced progression and a steep challenge without feeling something cluged onto minecraft. I still remember the first time i played it when i was a kid.

  • @TheAlexinou8
    @TheAlexinou8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Important thing to say, this mod brings Java 17 to Beta 1.7.3, so that players don't have to download an old LTS version of Java to play it!

  • @schniemand
    @schniemand 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is te exact thing I've wanted to exist, but I didn't bother to look up whether it'd been done already because I didn't know how the heck I could have fed it to a search engine.
    Glad I found this now! Turns out it's real

  • @ChewyMovesQuick
    @ChewyMovesQuick ปีที่แล้ว

    most underrated minecraft channel ong. I don't really even play it anymore but I still love the nestalgia of it.

  • @Dorvendor
    @Dorvendor ปีที่แล้ว

    11:00 yes i see it too. As an og console player this is so great. BTA feels almost like an official fork of mc. And i love it more than mojang's current versions.

  • @JAKE-em5xr
    @JAKE-em5xr ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love finding these under 100k yt channels with original content that covers like niche things also you look exactly like my cousin without including the eye color bruh.

  • @austinrichard8046
    @austinrichard8046 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ayyy found a bingus video again!
    Such good quality
    Great video dawg

  • @kirabey8946
    @kirabey8946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love a video about "Better Than Wolves" and the newly created "BTW: Community Edition".

  • @vier7178
    @vier7178 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a feeling that the video will be about this mod! I have been playing it for some time and it was fun

  • @lunatybg
    @lunatybg ปีที่แล้ว

    i can tell that your channel will be huge in like a year and i fear it

  • @areakastudios6704
    @areakastudios6704 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This mod is extremely fun. I've been playing it and it makes for a really fun Alternate universe.
    I grew up with versions like 1.6 and 1.7 (my first was pocket edition lite) so I can't say I agree with some of the mentality people have surrounding the mod, but it's still really fun regardless.

  • @jamawama297
    @jamawama297 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the idea that armors are no longer in tiers but have their own respective uses and abilities something I wish mojang would do already.

  • @electroflame6188
    @electroflame6188 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could say it's... _beta_ than adventure.

  • @nathanfielding8587
    @nathanfielding8587 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing these carefully developed MC mods overhaul the game to legitimately feeling like MC through an alternative vision, almost like an alternate universe version as some would put it, is staggering. It's incredible.

  • @OversizedPringleToe
    @OversizedPringleToe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is my favourite mod! I always cry when I play it.

  • @yarro1965
    @yarro1965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you really like this, I would genuinely suggest looking into Vintage Story. It was made by the terrafirmacraft devs and features a lot of things featured here (steel, colored wood planks, seasons). It's a lot more realistic, and a lot more difficult than Minecraft but It's a refreshing experience.
    Also, yes please on a Minecraft lets play????

  • @sulphurous2656
    @sulphurous2656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not going to lie, I'd still like to have Nether Fortresses and Villages.

  • @Noblereach36
    @Noblereach36 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re spot on with it looking like the console edition. I just watched another video before this one and was thinking the exact same thing.

  • @ethandonovan8368
    @ethandonovan8368 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m surprised they haven’t added more golems or tried to add more crop varieties into the game. Kinda feels like they’re adding in half baked mechanics and then moving onto the next half baked mechanic. I like modern Minecraft but modern Minecraft lacks a lot of fluidity compared to older versions.

  • @mistercue
    @mistercue ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember when you said that this channel won't be about minecraft and 7 out of 8 of your videos are Minecraft related XD I just want to see more content from you about other themes like that "Games that Feel like Dreams" video

  • @ruruchi_
    @ruruchi_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't usually comment but you just earned my sub. I've been playing Minecraft since 2011, I was 7 years old and this was my first ever pc game. I've seen every update and as it goes, I've gradually lost interest in the game, as it doesn't feel at all like it used to. I've never heard of this mod, and you explained very well what it's goals are. Very good job.

  • @charliehaigh8161
    @charliehaigh8161 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the idea of a minecraft "fork", looking forward to your BTA playtrough :)

  • @koopdawhoop.
    @koopdawhoop. ปีที่แล้ว

    this is like tf2 classic but for minecraft, forking an extremely old version of a highly updated game, make it run like butter in a pan, and add new content that reflects the philosophy of that version of the game

  • @manos.tz_
    @manos.tz_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I started playing at 1.7.10. I really like that version and still play it from time to time. A mod like that for that version would be nice.

  • @peb2899
    @peb2899 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could've sworn you had a million subs with the quality of this vid!!

  • @evdestroy5304
    @evdestroy5304 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I expected this mod to die shortly after creation, so I'm glad to see there is still a community for "classic" Minecraft.

    • @jonkadelic
      @jonkadelic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We plan to keep working on BTA for as long as it's fun to do so.

  • @homework8969
    @homework8969 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am surprised that this doesn't have more views.

  • @SheagleArk
    @SheagleArk ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, Mr Not-A-Minecraft-Channel.
    I have yet to play this mod. I don't tend to play modded. Might just after this.

  • @scritoph3368
    @scritoph3368 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, I remember betterthanwolves, the “bang your head against a wall for hours to get basic tools” mod.

    • @ryanjacobs836
      @ryanjacobs836 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the creator may have had good intentions but that mod is basically now just rlcraft (difficult for being difficult’s sake)

  • @sammythygamer5622
    @sammythygamer5622 ปีที่แล้ว

    It even has a beta version of fabric now. Babric mod development support. And there are good mods being made for it