Better than Adventure: Minecraft Beta Persisting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2024
- We've immersed ourselves in the depths of Minecraft's Golden Age and its community. We've heard the tale of one of the game's most controversial set of changes: The Adventure Update. Now, we examine how that update affected that community, through the lens of "Minecraft: Better than Adventure!"
Check out BTA! I promise, it's worth it.
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Chapters:
Intro 00:00 - 00:39
Exposition 00:39 - 01:31
"Better than?" 01:31 - 04:42
"Adventure?" 04:42 - 06:37
"Better than Adventure!" 06:37 - 16:28
Conclusion 16:28 - 18:32
Outro 18:32 - 19:50
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BTA lead dev here - thank you for the glowing review! This is a really well-thought-out and professional video that does a great job telling people about the spirit behind the project. It's great to see creators engaging with BTA and making videos about it, especially ones this good.
thank you so much for your work! i appreciate the kind words about the video, and i can't wait to see where the project goes next :)
Does it work with the original Aether 1 mod for back on 1.7.3?
That would make this mod the absolute perfect beta experience for me.
@@EvilParagon4i believe there is a port of the aether for it
@@Haune333 Sweet, sounds like good fun. Anything for Mo' Creatures? I assume not, since even though Mo' Creatures is open source now, it doesn't seem to really be cared about anymore. Though it's such an iconic mod it actually got its primary feature (horses) into the vanilla game eventually. Literally DrZhark made MC's horses.
@@EvilParagon4 The comment that replied to you is wrong, there is currently no port of the Aether to work with BTA. In fact, as of update 1.7.6, BTA is not compatible with any other mods for Beta 1.7.3.
However, BTA does have its own small modding community, and a few mods for vanilla b1.7.3 such as Tropicraft HAVE been ported. As I said before though, the Aether hasn't been ported yet, but there is a skylands dimension planned for later BTA versions.
It’s ok Bingus, you can be a Minecraft channel, we understand
thank you :’)
I think the main problem with modern MC is they will reveal features and then said features end up being released and often don't have any real purpose.
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It lost its magic for me whenever they made all the colors dull. The game just doesn't feel as vibrant as it used to
@@user-fx4hp2em8sThe Minecraft legacy version had faded colors but I think there is something wrong I don't think the colors are the main problem
@@bramblifrWhat do you mean? You can just craft copper golems that can help with automated farms! Oh wait.....
@@bramblifr Depending on what further changes take place, it'll have a place in redstone.. I'm hoping it will, at least.
5:30, funny thing, at 0:46 in the Minecraft Beta 1.8 Trailer, you can actually see the XP bar saying "Skill Points". They probably recorded the trailer near the end of development but cut the feature because they knew that would be way too strange for Minecraft.
It's probably the same thing with a different name.
Seeing a notification for this literally as I'm playing BTA was incredible. I'm so glad this mod is getting more and more coverage because it genuinely deserves it
just had the same happen to me
BTA is one of my favorite mods for any game ever. It's genuinely just well made and fun. I'd like to also see other old minecraft get covered because some of them also really strike a chord with me
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@@jacobsworld3014nuh uh
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Whats funny about BTA is that this mod has its own mods, and texture packs made by the community and I think even its own custom mod loader “babric” might be wrong though.
Mods called “Better Than Waila” straight up ports waila into BTA.
I saw a tech and magic mod.
And all sorts of other mods
That's the advantage of it being a fork. People can start taking advantage of things like the increased world height and new direction.
I have a bit of a dream of making a Rebirth of the Night-like mod for it. Much more simple than RotN but the same goal of making building more purposeful by including a lot of "tower defense" focused blocks and making mobs very capable of reaching you anyways at specific intervals (right when seasons change, conveniently.)
It’s similar to Create mod addons and to some extent, the unofficial GregTech versions
yep BTA's own Fabric Modloader was Called Babric or BTA Babric since i think Babric was for Official Betas
Alex's caves
>tech and magic
"We removed potions and enchanting because they're too unlike Minecraft. Anyway, here's technology and literal spells."
The fact that they've included the painted planks is also kinda funny as, if I remember correctly, Mojang wanted to implement them in release 1.7, but they decided to add Acacia and Dark Oak instead
But overall interesting video! (And the whole channel also, I've never commented on one of your videos before, but you tell these Minecraft history stories in an interesting way, while I don't really watch other Minecraft content anymore)
Mojang had to choose between adding different wood types or adding colored planks. BTA chose both lol
I think chose not to after realizing they would need to also add slabs and stairs for each colored planks which would rapidly fill up the limited Block and Item IDs. The Block and Item ID limit was rectified in 1.13's Flattening but in exchange the performance tanked into the depths of Hell.
@@ricedanan 1.15 and 1.20 have been surprisingly good performance updates
Yeah, imo Mojang made a big mistake by tying wood color to wood types but it's super convenient for them since they can just effortlessly push a new wood type every update to keep people satisfied. In my opinion, wood types should have their own patterns instead of just recolored regular wood, and each wood type should be dyable. Kinda like how each door has a different texture.
@@SnrubSource 1.20 goes almost in that direction
if you looks at the new bamboo things and sakura(or cherry)
I personally think the best thing about this mod compared to modern Minecraft is that blocks, materials, etc. all have MULTIPLE USES. You brought up the problem of inventory management issues in this mod, which I agree with. But, there are things you can do with each material where there are fun and interesting ways to address it without just simply limiting the amount of blocks in the game. The one that comes to my head right off the bat is The Trommel block that converts dirt blocks and gravel you have lying around into clay balls, pebbles (which can be used to craft more cobblestone) and other light materials. Sure the pebbles and flint and etc. you get from the Trommel could also contribute to the inventory issue but most times I simply craft more cobble or add to my gunpowder reserve from blocks that would of have just sat in a chest in waiting until a big project or something.
Modern Minecraft lacks this, and mostly encourages you to simply hoard blocks for no reason other than there isn't much to do outside of very specific interactions or recipes, and Mojang's solution isn't to add interactable blocks like the Trommel, but rather give you more means to store things (Double chests being able to be placed next to each other after the longest time, Shulker boxes, bundles whenever those get finished, etc.)
But yeah, great video! Glad you covered this beautiful mod! Hopefully this gets more people involved and servers start up using it :-)
Glass trap doors are a great example of Minecraft's older "use your imagination, kiddo" philosophy.
I would suggest if you want to stay on topic, you should take a good look at Vintage Story, a game made by people who used to develop TerraFirmaCraft (a minecraft mod) who didn’t want to be restricted by modding. It has truly bloomed with its own vision and offers a completely different experience despite many mistaking it as a Minecraft texturepack + modpack. One playthrough tells you they are nowhere near the same games.
The same developers from terrafirmacraft? I thought it looked familiar.
@@mosshivenetwork117 it wasnt made by the terrafirmacraft devs, the devs were minecraft modders who were inspired by TFC to my understanding
@@alyceblak1524 oh my baaad
artist for the mod here- i'm glad to see people covering the recent updates, and this video does an amazing job at it
there's a few features i got to work on for this update such as mob texture variants, sign pictograms, and more, and while they aren't important (some are super obscure like customizable tooltips), i'm curious as to people's thoughts on them. if you ever make a part 2 (maybe when the next update, 7.1 releases), you should cover them
thank you for your work!! every bit of it is important. i especially liked the sign customization features! adds a lot more use to them. i’ll be keeping up with each update! :)
would absolutely love to see a "Better than Combat" mod come into existence, and I'm sure that I share that sentiment with many other people.
yes, absolutely. came down here to see if someone else feels like this
So just different combat?
@@IAm-zo1bo i would imagine it to be a mod with went along the same path as earlier versions not just a difference in combat, but a path without the additions(mistakes) of modern versions.
@@IAm-zo1bo Not just "different", but a reversion of the combat mechanics to their pre-1.9 state, aka "The Combat Update". Shields and weapon cooldowns were *extremely* controversial additions to the game, so much so that many PvP servers still use the combat mechanics from 1.7, either using a Bukkit/Spigot plugin, or by simply requiring the client to use that older version.
@@tissuepaper9962 Sounds like it already exists then. Play on a server with one of those plugins. You could even run your own server with the plugin if you just want to play single player. No need to develop a whole mod for it.
My gosh. Habit of minecraft community to say that a new feature is "not vanilla" was there from the very start
I wish people did this for other versions as well. My personal picks for version forks would be 1.7.10, 1.8.9 and 1.12.2, i feel like those are some of the most turning points and i would like to see them expanded in this way.
I love this video - I just was playing BTA today and I’m slowly playing that more than modern Minecraft currently.
I can tell that BTA is a total labour of love and it caught my interest straight away when I saw it for the first time.
Lately, I really needed a different Minecraft experience, as I could feel myself wanting to take a break from ‘Vanilla’, so I didn’t hesitate to start playing BTA to try it out and boy, did it not disappoint!
BTA is quickly making me want to play it nearly everyday and I plan on continuing with it for as long as I can.
I might even introduce it to some of my friends by showing them this video and hopefully setting up a BTA server with them to play on so I can share my experience with BTA and demonstrate how wonderful it is!
Anyway, keep it up man and thank you very much for making this video!
If you get that server running and are looking for some more players lemme know dude! :)
we should collectively start acting like BTA and the other alternate development path mods are vanilla and official Mojang updates are just an elaborate modpack
@@SnrubSource I already do that, I don't even know what is happening in modern mc
@@Apollointhehouse in the words of Yogurt the Wise, "Merchandising!"
I personally play 1.12.2, cause that's the last release version before the entire game was overhauled, and everything changed, it also has incredible mod support.
This resonates with me a lot. While I started playing in beta 1.8 and bulk of of my playing time was till release 1.6, I quite enjoyed just caving, collecting resources, planned + expanded my house and farmed. My play was a very crafting table + furnace only style. At some point updates felt more like chunks on top of something complete, in a "look at this new thing that spawns in a completely new biome" that has to be by design not be part of the core gameplay since not everyone spawns there.
Love your videos. Its so refreshing to see high quality content covering older versions of this game and the mods for them. Please consider making a video on Not So Seecret Saturday sometime!
Also, congrats on 9k. I really hope you get over 50k by the end of year, hopefully more.
I just started playing BTA and im having really fun so far, so this was nice to see in my notifications :D. ALSO, don't stop making videos. Your videos are like 9/10 minimum.
Love your videos, they have such a chill vibe and are really easy to consume. The Minecraft content is great, but I would totally be there for any other games you cover in the future. Keep up the great work!
i've been starting to feel the want to go back to minecraft how it use to be but at the same time have more, this was perfect to gain knowledge on the mod. Keep doing great pal!
Excellent coverage of this mod! Your editing/content quality is a pleasant surprise for the channel size. Cannot wait to see what you do in the future. You have definitely earned the subscriptions! :)
bingus i havent played minecraft in like 6 months, but your videos are always so entertaining and informative that it makes me want to stick around, keep it up & gl on the road to 10k 🎊
I remember Better Than Wolves being featured in a lot of minecraft talk and videos when I was only 12 years old in 2011, it's crazy to think that its been at least a decade since I've last heard anything about it and it's legacy lives to this day
Yes! A new video from my favorite mod! More people need to cover Better Than Adventure ASAP!
i really love your approach to the old minecraft topic and the way youre so passionate about making videos in this regard, please dont get corrupted be the youtube money-and-popularity rush, stay as you are man i subrcribed for the way you are right now and i hope you will keep on going by the character and ideals that youve set for yourself. grow big, dont change ♡
This is the first video of yours that I've watched and the intro really tripped me out. My Steam name has been "bingus" for years, and I've learned to respond to that name as if it were my real name through years of voice comms in CS:GO, so being addressed as "bingus" in the intro gave me a bit of a spook lol. This was a really good review, thorough without being exhaustive and dragging on, you laid out the motivation of the devs and their implementation in a concise narrative while also speaking directly to the frustrations I have had with the official versions of the game and how they've diverged from the atmosphere of the retro versions, which I can best describe as "pleasant loneliness".
BTA saved Minecraft for me, now its the only way i play the game.
Interesting that at least a couple of the blocks suggested by FlowerChild were similar to/the same as those that did end up in Minecraft in some capacity
I do like the died wooden planks and different stone types since I’ve used a mod that added new plank variants back in 1.7.3 all those years ago (in fact, you used the newly added stone types to dye the planks). It’s almost kinda nostalgic for me. :P
Bro, i absolutely adore your video and how older Minecraft versions gain popularity. I recently found out about better than adventure, and, consiquently, Better than wolves which you mentioned! I installed BTW 1.5.2 on my phone using pojav launcher (basically java on android) and i love it! Thank you for the content!
Can you tell me how did you install the mods on the pojavlauncher beta 1.7.3? All of the tutorials I've found are outdated. I stumbled upon your comment by pure luck, as I have been looking into this mod, and the android port of the java edition. I have a PC, I just wish to get it working on mobile too, as I could take it with me where I go. I've tried changing stuff in the Json, I installed the mod as you usually do on PC, but I still couldn't get it to work.
As far as armor went, I had a similar idea that gave armors different combat damage types similar to what you would see in D&D (Slashing, Piercing and Bludgeoning damage) to validate lower tier armors. Glad to see someone had a like-minded concept on armor revamps.
unironically got goosebumps at 11:59, the visuals of beta 1.7.3 are unmatched in its style and feels like it plays into its strength, modern MC is just too.. modern for no reason in particular
Definitely going to check this out. It looks like a really interesting mod.
I just played BTA yesterday, I was inspired to do it because I had seen an update video as well as some of your other videos.
Nice video ,subscribed! Really makes me want to try BTA now as a Retro Minecraft fan. Also I want to point out that the Bloom effect reminds me of the same effect some old Minecraft Machinimas would use.
EDIT: I'M ALSO REALLY LOVING YOUR CONTENT SO FAR!
One of the reasons why modern mc updates feel so unfulfilling compared to old ones is because Notch added things "randomly" many old items wouldn't exist in modern mc because they don't go by mojangs design "rules", creeper is example of that, notch made a mistake when he was making pig and instead created creeper with pig skin, which he then created a greenish monster skin and thus became creeper. You wouldn't see something like that in new updates.
Another reason is that mojang because souless now and everything they add to mc is designed with kids in mind, updates will always be up, some with more content and some will not much content. "Better than adventure" devs don't have nowhere near as much man power as mojang and yet they poured their heart into this mod, are more connected with playerbase than mojang, who just does rebranding as it wishes and even breaks laws by changing EULA... Even if notch is a shitty person (see what I did there) he shouldn't have sold mc to microsoft. While I love modern minecraft and *most* of it's updates, there's no denying that Mojang has grew disconected from it's fans and became almost souless company that's now trying to actively control everything that has word minecraft in it. (examples new EULA, banning mc content on youtube if they don't like something, telling you how you must use word minecraft, banning mods/servers/plugins with guns, frogs and fireflies, chat monitoring etc.)
Important thing to say, this mod brings Java 17 to Beta 1.7.3, so that players don't have to download an old LTS version of Java to play it!
I had a feeling that the video will be about this mod! I have been playing it for some time and it was fun
Great service. Last night i asked for more videos and you delivered 🤣
hey, bc! nor really related to the video itself, but I just wanted to say that your content brings an extreme amount of comfiness to my evenings and nights! I really like your approach to video essays and it is just very relaxing but at the same time engaging to listen to you talk about stuff you seem to deeply care about, or at least be very interested in :) your videos proof that modern youtube videos don't have to be extremely loud and fast, that just a dude rambling about stuff could also be enough to entertain. I very happily watch this channel steadily grow and can't wait for new videos! keep up the good work!
As a 1.5k hour tf2 player I didn't even need to see the reference clip to get the reference. just heard "crouching seems to make it better" and instantly knew where they got the idea.
binguschondo with another banger, how isnt this channel more well-known?
I've been hosting a small better than adventure server for a group of friends for about a week. It as been a very refreshing experience to relive the classic experience, but to also have the feeling mystery that comes with all the new additions! We explored one of the labyrinths and it was much better and engaging than any current structures, but it was also very simple at the same time.
The way the armor types and tool tiers are implemented are such unique and creative ways to make the game interesting and fun. It allows players to utilize almost all types of tools and armor and not just stick to the most durable like in vanilla minecraft. I also absolutely love how color grading and bloom are implemented!
13:30 The entire system presented ironically is wayy more RPG than the RPG stuff from 1.8-Onward
not only are all these points amazing, theres also the point that this mod changed so much is spawned an entire community around modding for BTA
I recently started playing vanilla beta 1.7.3 and I can honestly say that it’s very refreshing to go back and play and it’s just more exciting just the feeling of dying is scary again unlike in modern Minecraft it doesn’t feel like there’s any threat in the game like it does in beta
most underrated minecraft channel ong. I don't really even play it anymore but I still love the nestalgia of it.
ah, BTA my favorite mod. Glad to see u covering it!
Another banger from the big Chond. 🙏
I still can't believe how many of these views I align with, but could never quite out into words. I'll definitely be checking this mod out soon!
I meant say "put into words", but don't want to clear the heart. Thanks again though
Better than wolves is my most favorite mod, it has really well paced progression and a steep challenge without feeling something cluged onto minecraft. I still remember the first time i played it when i was a kid.
I've seen this mod being metioned on MinecraftForums and I didn't think anything of it. But seeing this review made me check it out with a different perspective
yay! I really love your videos, thank you for talking about BTA!!
Honestly, Minecraft updates for me became very overwhelming as a part-time player who plays the game just once in a uncertain time period. I started to play it at versions 1.4 and after 1.9 the feature set started to rise so rapidly that I don't know what I have to prioritize during normal survival gameplay after you have established with basic resources, yet after the endgame you're being given many overpowered items which may be unclear on how to obtain without scrolling through the guides or just time consuming and frankly doesn't make me feel rewarded after getting them, yet the QoL improvements of modern versions make me feel like older versions are "literally unplayable", or at least uncomfortable when doing regular stuff. Playing Beta and BTA reminded me of playing the Pocket edition 0.5.X back in the day which is the most enjoying experience of Minecraft I've ever had yet it's not limited to the world size and has some own additions to the game and I finally kinda enjoyed playing Minecraft after a long while
love your editing style and presentation
I just saw the two update videos on their channel, and man... if I had a computer, I feel like I'd try this.
This is my favourite mod! I always cry when I play it.
This mod is extremely fun. I've been playing it and it makes for a really fun Alternate universe.
I grew up with versions like 1.6 and 1.7 (my first was pocket edition lite) so I can't say I agree with some of the mentality people have surrounding the mod, but it's still really fun regardless.
I love the idea of a minecraft "fork", looking forward to your BTA playtrough :)
omfg it actually does look like the legacy console editions, no youre not crazy, as someone that grew up with xbox 360 minecraft from TU1, its my absolute favorite and most nostalgic version ever and i especially liked how it looked and felt in comparison to other versions
This is what makes minecraft modding so powerful, especially total conversions, like terra firma craft and BTA/BTW
Excellent video, Mr Not-A-Minecraft-Channel.
I have yet to play this mod. I don't tend to play modded. Might just after this.
i can tell that your channel will be huge in like a year and i fear it
As someone who started Minecraft during the beta days but loves what Minecraft has become and enjoys heavily modded Minecraft as well, I can tell BTA would not be for me. But seeing a project like this gain traction has me excited for all you folks out there who *do* enjoy this kind of experience! This video was a very interesting watch, even though I probably won't play BTA myself :)
I do agree on the multiple planks thing, i like having multiple plank ootions such as acacia, but not really in a beta-esque setting.
would love to see a bta playthrough
I really believe anything's possible so long as you put your mind to it!
Great review!
Seeing these carefully developed MC mods overhaul the game to legitimately feeling like MC through an alternative vision, almost like an alternate universe version as some would put it, is staggering. It's incredible.
I love a "what if we got an alternate timeline" kind of mod.
I don't usually comment but you just earned my sub. I've been playing Minecraft since 2011, I was 7 years old and this was my first ever pc game. I've seen every update and as it goes, I've gradually lost interest in the game, as it doesn't feel at all like it used to. I've never heard of this mod, and you explained very well what it's goals are. Very good job.
I’d love to see a you play BTA on the second channel!
If you really like this, I would genuinely suggest looking into Vintage Story. It was made by the terrafirmacraft devs and features a lot of things featured here (steel, colored wood planks, seasons). It's a lot more realistic, and a lot more difficult than Minecraft but It's a refreshing experience.
Also, yes please on a Minecraft lets play????
As far as I'm concerned, BTA is the definitive version of Minecraft. I hope people make big servers with it someday
You’re spot on with it looking like the console edition. I just watched another video before this one and was thinking the exact same thing.
I remember when you said that this channel won't be about minecraft and 7 out of 8 of your videos are Minecraft related XD I just want to see more content from you about other themes like that "Games that Feel like Dreams" video
I always love finding these under 100k yt channels with original content that covers like niche things also you look exactly like my cousin without including the eye color bruh.
i used to play on beta 1.7.3 for years after the oficial releas! and i still go to my old 1.7.3 worlds once in a while ^^
I’m surprised they haven’t added more golems or tried to add more crop varieties into the game. Kinda feels like they’re adding in half baked mechanics and then moving onto the next half baked mechanic. I like modern Minecraft but modern Minecraft lacks a lot of fluidity compared to older versions.
bro looks like he came straight out of the beegees
Thank you for this video, i rediscovered this mod recently, and now i'm modding this mod... we are a group of dedicated people who love beta minecraft and we love porting already known mods to BTA, exemples are RetroStorage (Ae2 but easier) FluidAPI for mods including fluids and (mine) BTWaila that port WAILA a modern mod. there is a lot of other mods already done, and hopefully one day we will be able to make modpacks out of it ;D
Thank you for this video again, BTA has a Discord server you can join ;D Have fun
that's cool as hell man
I love the idea that armors are no longer in tiers but have their own respective uses and abilities something I wish mojang would do already.
I didn't think Adventure was a bad idea, but it wasn't executed the best it could be. Minecraft always felt best when it felt like *your* toybox, when you were the only person in a hostile world that you could tame. Villages would have been cool as like a surface level dungeon and rather than being populated by Testificates, it had zombies in the buildings or something. If Better Than Adventure manages to find a way to incorporate the best elements of the Adventure update into Beta Minecraft, then it'll truly be a mod for the ages, because it's almost perfect right now.
This is te exact thing I've wanted to exist, but I didn't bother to look up whether it'd been done already because I didn't know how the heck I could have fed it to a search engine.
Glad I found this now! Turns out it's real
I would say that the biggest problem with modern updates is that they don't have such a big effect on how the game is played in the end = they affect for a while and then they are either forgotten or something better comes in the next version, making it useless. + also how the updates focus on a very small part of the game leads to the fact that new features / blocks are found relatively quickly = (only one biome is updated at a time, problem, etc.)
i definitely notice the gamma thing you mention!
It’s also interesting to note that, aside from the 4 enemy mobs, and the hell dimension added by a Halloween update which had no purpose beside being a cool Easter egg, the game was going for pure realism, and 1.8 and beyond was when it moved away from that with potions, the end, enchanting etc.
Unironically nice content man I really like this channel
this is an amazing video, nice new minecraft channel to sub to
i would love to see a bta playtrough from you
why diamonds get fire protection?
dont they know how to test if a diamond is fake?
I think we're handily at the point that playing these different versions is a lot more like playing a game and its sequel than the same game. We can appreciate some choices, disagree with others, but ultimately be overjoyed that we get two fantastic games to play depending on the mood we're in. Everything I've heard about BTA has been pretty awesome, so I can't wait to give it a try myself.
i really want to see this mod but with some stuff from the actual game such as shields, sweeping edge, elytra, etc.
I played vanilla version of this mod and i want to admit that damn. This mod is way enjoyable than todays minecraft despite the fact that i just played an older version of minecraft on my moms phone years ago but still this is a fresh air
I started playing at 1.7.10. I really like that version and still play it from time to time. A mod like that for that version would be nice.
I am surprised that this doesn't have more views.
this looks great! does anyone know if there's a texture pack to make it look more like modern minecraft? I prefer the look of new minecraft but the feel of old minecraft
You should try out vintage story,very refreshing.