French FR-F1 Sniper Rifle at the Range
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The FR-F1 was adopted in 1967 as the French Army's marksman or sniper's rifle. It was based roughly on the MAS-36 bolt action system, but with a heavier receiver and 10-round detachable box magazine. It used the same scope as he MAS 49-56; the APX L806, a 3.85x optic largely modeled after the German ZF-4. I'm doing some shooting today with PPU 7.5mm ammunition, which is not particularly good - and the results show that. So, I after filming this video I shipped the rifle to my friends at 9 Hole Reviews for a proper test. Check out their video:
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Perhaps I should have schlepped Ian's ridiculously rare rifle around like I would an SMLE in a "Northern maple brother's" hands, but we have been asked to keep all remaining custom loaded cartridges... for science :) .
Subsequently we are returning the rifle with only two 5-shot groupings on paper, one of which was the sight in, the other was the record. This is one only rifle we've produced good content with and only expended less than 50 rounds in total.
Au pas camarade!
You did good 🤜🏽
Does anyone get MAS 36 vibes from this? Idk just seems to have an awfully similar resemblance.
How come you guys where having extraction issues, ian seems to be cycling it with no problems. Unless he fixed it offscreen?
@@asphaltmemories4597 We seeking advice from some of those 70's GIGN operators we spoke with on the mission detail. I'm sure this will be updated at a later date on FW publications :)
@9-Hole Reviews
Should the Rooftop China Man ever wish to visit a Northern Maple brother, this such brother may have a Type-81 waiting for thee. Produced on the same factory line as the police/military versions and replete with Chinese ammunition of course. Consider this an open invitation.
For those who want to know :
GIGN sent 9 members : 6 shooters, their leader, a radio and the lieutenant.
4 terrorists where in the bus. They asked for food for the kids. The meals were dosed with sleeping pills to help shooters tell an awoken terrorist from a asleep kid. 6 shots fired in less than a second (the standard timing they were trained on to make sure no one would have the time to react). A fifth terrorist was hidden inside the bus (probably sleeping out of sight, maybe he ate some of the kids meal :D ) and ran away but was killed by a second round from one of the shooters.
Somalian army opened fire onto the french troops with MG42's. GIGN members then ran to the bus (some 200m away) to free the kids. They came across a 6th terrorist who took advantage of the firefight to get back to the bus. He fired at the GIGN members and missed, then fired at the kids, killing a girl, fatally wounding an other girl (she died in hospital, back in France) before getting shot by the GIGN returning fire.
Results and aftermath :
7 terrorists were killed. Probably 15-ish Somalian soldiers, too.
2 young girls died. The bus driver, the social worker and 5 kids were injured, some even badly and were handicaped for life.
A Foreign Legion Lieutenant was badly injured.
1 kid got abducted and detained in Somalia, but was liberated after negociations. 1 kid took his/her own life later on.
Soldiers and GIGN members kept a bitter sweet taste of victory :/
Probably should have been less brash with the lives of others
Why did the somali open fire on the french?
@@thesturm8686 Yeah i wanna know that too, like, didn't the French tell the local authorities about the operation?
You often don't trust the local forces to keep things secret.
@@bryanandersonmt the somalians worked with the terrorist i thinks
Ian: "This was of course introduced in 1967."
Me: "of course"
yes you can immediately tell it was introduced in 1967 because everything about it says 1967
Another great review Ian.
Was great to meet you outside the Highland park distillery on Orkney.
All the very best.
Steve.
Steven Lord,, do i miss a hidden channel with Ian drinking Scotch vids ?
Oh but you would have been even more of a hero had you been INSIDE the Highland Park Distillery
Oh Ian....
"Is it a french gun? Sign me up."
Ian "if it's french it goes on my bench" McCollum
Ian: Let’s put five shots on paper
Henry: *sighs*
Edit: it's a joke y'all...nothing but love for these gentlemen
9 hole reviews: "Are we a joke to you?"
Ian has never claimed to be crack shot, he is ok enough for shooter i suspect is not burning 2 barrels per year.
He’s not a distance shooter, he’s admitted to that on a number of occasions.
Ian is more of a connoisseur of guns. Karl always beats Ian in shooting competitions
Are people not getting that it's about 9 hole reviews preferring to use 9 shots groups to gauge accuracy and not a dig at Ians ability to shoot well?
I once got the "multiple sniping procedure" explained to me this way
- every sniper confirms they have acquired his own target
- commanding officer counts down to zero
- any sniper losing his target interrupts the count
- when zero is reached, everyone fires
I was told getting the shot can take hours
Yep, pretty much how it's done, and allegedly it's first operational use. It is said to have been developed by the founder of the GIGN and later taught to other special and intervention forces internationally.
The 9 Holes review video explain it extremely well, and with some context about the hostage rescue operation too.
about 10 hours in position for target acquisition
That suncap comes loose and makes an 'M1 Garand' clunk
I had the same thought 😁
Soleil du garand 😄
Enemy soldiers then proceed to banzai charge Ian, because they heard the clunk
Lonesome 77 Even though that is a myth, about the ping giving away you being out of ammo.
Nick A. Oh I know it is a myth-I was just being sarcastic and satirical about the myth :)
After the Djibouti Incident of 1976, the FR-F1 rifle saw action during the battle of Kolwezi in 1978. Snipers of the 2nd Foreign Parachute Regiment (French Foreign Legion) used this rifle against Congolese rebels. Regular French riflemen were issued Mas 49/56 rifles and MAT 49 SMG, the Congolese rebels were issued modern assault rifles like FN FAL, AK rifles, and M16A1. After the battle, some of these weapons were retrieved by the 1st Marine Infantry Paratrooper Regiment, the French equivalent of the British SAS, possibly for covert operations.
Its just the most beautifully French rifle ever and I love it
Then you don't have seen the FR-F2 yet ;)
@@heinrichheidestein1013 Nah it's a nice rifle that I imagine does an extremely great job but the FR-F1 is the better looking of the 2
@@heinrichheidestein1013 F2 has clumsy-looking fore end, imo. I'm sure it's an improvement, however. Love to have either...but never will.
yOU've never seen the Chassepot
No, I m kidding.
But I prefer the MAS 36
This rifle remember me of the sniper rifle in Goldeneye 007 from the venerable N64. The development team say they didn't based it on any real weapon.
It's an odd mish-mash of the Walter WA2000 and what almost looks like a pneumatic harpoon gun.
@@AshleyPomeroy I think I heard in a documentary the Rare team was modeling the rifle after some bolt action hunting rifle at early stages of development, I don't remember it well.
in goldeneye 007 the MAS 49-56 was what they carried.
The bolt cycling on the FRF sounds so nice, that it sounds like something from a video game. I love it.
"So and so sounds like something from a video game..." never fails to make me cringe. Where do you think video game sounds come from?
@@anhnhvn Only recently has the video game industry gone from using sounds from movies to sounds from real life. So to a lot of people it's new to hear real guns sound the same as guns in video games.
This was a GREAT collaboration between Forgotten Weapons and 9-Hole Reviews! Love both your channels. Please do more collabs of interesting military arms in the future!
9hole did a great job, and the gun seems to be really good. Also I cannot thank you enough for the work you are doing this contributes immensely to aleviate the stigma on the french military. Coming from a french military family that has actually lost a lot of its members in combat I'v always resented those jokes, that did not always really feel like jokes but more like mean, asinine, stupid BS.
Bolchevick Duck, I'm from the UK and yes we do poke a little fun at the French, but I think on the whole its good-natured. Just like internally the English poke fun at the Scots and Irish, and vice-versa. We also all poke fun at the Welsh :-)
Yes the French have lost a few big wars, but if folk look back at history they see that they've probably fought more than anyone else and in general did better than most. So for me certainly it's a friendly rivalry with no meanness behind it. France and Britain have been bad enemies but better allies I hope!?
@@Getpojke "Yes the French have lost a few big wars" Oh, boy! Don't tell them that! They truly believe they won the wars!
lol
@@theswissgunsmith2122 Haha, while you chaps were busy counting gold in the Alps! ;-)
So saying you did provide a lot of mercenaries for the French throughout the 15th -18th centuries.
@@Getpojke Much later, in fact. Until the 1830 Revolution. Then the Swiss Guard was replaced with the Foreign Legion. And a lot of Swiss enlisted in it through time.
Project Lightening: Round 2 - Long Rifles feat. 9-Hole Review and Forgotten Weapons?
M1917 Enfield, the debate was settled long ago.
Great shoutout to 9-Hole.
Discovered their channel a few months ago, they're doing really cool stuff and deserve a lot more attention.
Saw the 9 hole video before. That rifle is fantastic. Enjoy it!
I appreciated you sending it over to Henry. I watch the video yesterday when it uploaded. They do great content. I also appreciate that they do test with significant figures to determine the actual capability of the equipment. you can always keep it's about you didn't try this thing or that thing but I think they do a pretty good job of saying we will mimic as close as it is to its to how it is currently fielded or perhaps how it was fielded when issued. it's impossible to give every gun its best case scenario but that's a pretty fair way to go.
Great video, and thanks for the recommendation on the 9-hole reviews channel, I'm loving their stuff!
That was a perfect collab with 9-Hole Reviews!
Imagine being one of those french school kids taken hostage. You wonder if you're ever getting away alive when all 6 of your captors' heads suddenly explode
i wonder how traumatising it would be
There were 4 of them...
@@YanDoroshenko Dang I missed the subtitles the first time over
Something tells me they were either traumatized and never wanted to see a gun again, or thought there counter terrorism squad was the coolest thing ever.
Wonder if any of them joined the military
@@a.h.504 it was a pretty traumatizing event and the entire incident was quite poorly recognized in France, making it quite hard on the families. Some of the children committed suicide later in life. Though the GIGN did a good job rescuing the children, it's overall a sad story.
Merci pour la vidéo!
Wow, that is a beautiful rifle!
Your channel is just gold Ian
Great collaboration concept.
hi ian thank you for recommending 9 hole excellent ,now subbed and digging into their library all the best from Scotland stay safe stay well
Thank you Ian for setting up that cooperation with 9-hole reviews, their video on this gun was *excellent*. The performance of this gun is amazing!
Too cool. And the 9 Hole vid is GREAT! Keep up the awesome work.
Gorgeous piece
I love that little harmonic sound you hear when firing on video. It's like Mario getting coins.
Thanks for the video! And the link to 9hole. The linked video intro was a hoot!
Hey Ian. Just wanted to say congrats on a great show. Your format & product is great and I appreciate that the amount of output you are making. Keep up the great work. I feel the TH-cam platform is perfect for such shows.
Great shooting.
What an amazing partnership with 9-hole reviews!
Ian, love the collaboration with 9-Hole, you guys should do more! History & Entertainment at its finest. Well done Sir 👍
Super interesting! i love the format of this video
Fantastic! Went right off to 9 hole reviews!
Thank you so very much for the new channel suggestions! They are great.
Was nice of you to lend the gun to 9hole for their video.
There's a french film (2019) about this event in Djibouti, called "L'intervention"
Unfortunately neither Amazon Prime or Netflix has it. I looked after watching the 9 hole review video yesterday.
@@minuteman4199 yes it is on prime as part of imdb tv. Its called '15 minutes of war'. I watched it yesterday.
@@minuteman4199 Prime uk has it under the title 15 Minutes of War
Most of the best shooty bits are on TH-cam
Thanks so much from Australia ❤️
The 9 holes is awesome.
Bless you.
My Favourite TH-cam Channel Forgotten Weapons
very satisfying bolt sound on this one.
pretty damn good it turns out, beautiful rifle Ian.
The rifle's report is beautiful.
The first use of a moving camera angle I have seen on the channel. You're going places!
You’re a good shot Ian, stop being so modest!
Watching u is always a treat.
FRF1's role in the French army was DMR, there was one in each 10 men basic infantry squad. GIGN used different scopes and selected rifles. On competition rifles (without optics) the tension of the flash hider was adjusted (in the arsenal) for match ammo. For DMR rifles, it was not considered as necessary, in case of war, whatever ammo was available would have to do. FRF1s were also used with good effects in the Kolvzei rescue operation by Foreign Legion paratroopers
"there was one in each 10 men basic infantry squad" Errr... That was not the case in the late 80s - early 90's. There was just 1 per platoon.
@@theswissgunsmith2122 Yes, it was when adopted in 1966 and in the TOE of the Infantry. It was in 1982 when I dit my one year mandatory service, in reserve officer's school for foot mobile infantry and then in a line battalion in Germany. Later, it changed with professionalization.
@@jean-pascalesparceil9008 I just checked my "Carnet du Chef de Section" of the time, just in case. Definitely no FRF1 in the squad. The squad consisted of 2 teams of 4 ("Equipe Choc" and "Equipe Feu"). The FRF1 was with the platoon leader
But you might be right. I just found that in a book of the time: "Le chef d'équipe feu sera remplacé par un tireur d'élite avec fusil FRF1"
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Cool little snippet of history as well...
6 timed shots at once is pretty intense.
Taking hostages in Djibouti, a FFL stronghold and their desert trainingground, has to be ranked high on the scale of " things you only do if you have a desire to not live for very much longer "
Damn, that real life "sync-shot" hostage rescue in '76 with the GIGN is a crazy thing to read about. They didn't take out all six terrorists in the first volley, though, and the surviving one killed one child and wounded three others before he was dispatched.
The echo off that range is cinema perfect.
Nice shout out to 9 hole they do great videos
By far my favorite cool factor sniper rifle. Thank you for showing it to us and thank you for loaning it to 9 hole so that we could see it out to 800. I was just as giddy for both videos, squealing like a little kid.
9 hole put his vid out yesterday it's good.
I didn't know about that terrorist attaque. Apparently it turned into a crazy fight after the snipers took their shoot and more than 20 000 empty cases were found on the site. About 20 terrorists were killed as well as 2 kids. What a nightmare. Merci Ian pour la video, toujours au top!
What a wonderful sound
Did anyone else check their phone at 0:13?
Watching the video on PC with headphones on, phone directly on the right of the keyboard and was confused for about a second why the display stayed black ;D
Sure did!
Love it and really liked the review on 9 hole reviews to whom I was turned on by Forgotten Weapons so wins all around
Great, I knew 9-Hole Reviews and Forgotten Weapons will collab at some point. :)
Such a neat rifle, very easy on the eyes!
It's amazing how much wood can class up a rifle. The bipod is also particularly nice.
@Paul Alexander It's in the middle to allow for greater elevation before the butt hits the ground. For example, shooting through plane windows from the tarmac. The way it's mounted also doesn't damp barrel harmonics, or allow for POI shift under loading. Additionally, each leg has a hand adjustable length from the firing position, for levelling.
Just back from the 9HR video. Man this is a monster at range ...
It would be really great if a second camera was recording the target so that we could have a simultaneous picture of the shooting and the hits.
Lol, with the auto captioning on it claims the gun shots are music 🤣
Music for our ears
superb rifle that I was lucky enough to have in my hands during my first three years in the army then I went to the FR-F2 with a devilish precission for ten years then to the PMG HECATE II during my two last years of the army.
each of these three rifles are formidably precise but I still keep a preference on the FR-F2
great video
Beyond Possible
Awesome video thank you.
Coming from 9 hole review Chanel , this gun is fantastic
I find your bias to be very objective, straight forward "I'm biased" but you clearly know when the french outright made big mistakes.
But seeing the 9 hole review and that ought to make you happy :)
Both videos are excellent 👍👍👍 enjoyed that 🍻
Whenever you or Karl mention your lack of long range locations, my eyes drift to the ridge behind you and imagine the possibilities. I take it that shooting from the top of the hill isn't an option?
very good looking rifle.
Trip report from 9-holes in the future: the gun is pretty amazing, kills terrorists good.
good sound at that range
Seen it yesterday it did awesome
That sound though
I have been fairly happy with Prizi Par ammo, and very happy with Sellier and Benoit in both 6.5 Swedish Mauser and 7X57. In particular the price point of PP's 375 H&H was basically like getting loaded ammo for the cost of the brass alone, though I am just shooting it up informally because I bought 275 grain Grand Slams for reloading for elk hunting.. I am waiting for a shipment of 500 rounds of S&B .308 for my new DPMS from my favorite AZ company J&G. I would say I have shot about 2000 rounds of the Euro ammo in the last decade and it has been a very good experience.
Agreed, I have found PPU ammo to be quite consistent. A bit dirty with lots of black fouling, but consistent.
A very neat rifle.
It's an outstanding rifle and one of the best sniper rifles ever made. It's upgraded version the F2 has been in service since 1986.
Hi from France, these rifle were made in few numbers and are rares . For PPU ammos, watch for concentricity . PPU improved a bit its quality level a few years ago .
I was about to recommend sending it to 9 hole... then you mentioned it already happened. Guess I need to get caught up and go watch the video there.
Ian rocking that surplus French F1 shirt.
Very nice.
hello to France!! thank's you for this revue!!
That sound damn man i rly like it
7:00 when you take control of gun jesus for the first time in this NEW LEGENDARY RPG ACTION GAME
Like how you can hear the ricochet's of other shooters off in the distance
That's a very cool story, nevermind the number confusion.
Don't beat yourself up too much about your groupings Ian. That is some damn fine hunting accuracy. You got your deer!
Hey Ian, a recommendation for adjusting your scope: don't do small clicks like you did with your windage. Sometimes the springs can stick in the scope and 1-2 clicks sometimes don't actually move your zero. Instead do +4 clicks followed by -3 clicks (or some equivalent). That helps prevent this issue.
Those acoustics tho!
BRAVO , j'adore ce que vous faites !! greetings from France !! une coupe de Champagne pour toi mon ami !!
Cool rifle
If this is available at the auction I sure want one.
Good lord, I've never heard an aircraft drone for so long... was it going in circles directly overhead??
Henry had some issues with spent cases not ejecting properly. But no such problem for Ian.
🤣 I subscribed to both channels, and I was wondering “how come they are testing the same scarce gun at the same time”. Well done 👍🏻
You should put a gopro facing the target so that we can see if the wandering shot from the first group was caused by the barrel heating
That kick ...
That's an interesting bipod setup