Why Warriors wouldn't have beaten LeBron & Cavs again without Kevin Durant | Draymond Green Show
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- Draymond Green explains to JJ Redick and Tommy Alter why Steph Curry is underappreciated and why the Warriors would not have beaten LeBron’s Cavaliers a second time if Kevin Durant hadn’t joined the Warriors.
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I guess we’re all gonna act like kyrie and Kevin love wasn’t hurt in 2015 in which Lebron pulls out 2 games by his self meaning if kyrie and love played in 2015 they might not have won a chip till Durant got there. So they knew they needed him.
If Lebron brings them to a game 6 he can’t say in 2015 they would of won with love an kyire there
Lol why does that matter. Mans conceding at least 3 of the rimgs from what he said. Yall like well let him call all 4. Relax lol.
What type of argument is that ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 after 15 there was 16 !!! And those boys were giving the Cavs the business !! THEY WERE UP 3-1 ! Before Draymond got suspended . That was against the Cavs with Lebron, Kyrie and Love …
Everyone and their mama agree if he didn’t get suspended that stuff was over … lebron himself DID ALL HE COULD TO MAKE SURE HE TRIEST TO TAKE DRAYMOND OUT OF HIS GAME (that’s historically NOT LEBRON’s Game, he is usually just the nest player on the court and plays the right way and they win . But they couldn’t … so in desperation he had to resort to other ways , the “dark arts” , it worked ! That’s on Draymond . It’s a battle)
The point remains which ever way you argue it , it is 1-1 . Draymond knows what he is talking about …
You should listen instead of trying to argue , you have tough this through smh …
@@grichkatayou7558 aye just hush it was kyrie and Kevin first time in the thats they fault they gave them time to adjust so like I said healthy love and kyrie first year probably be a different case bron won 2 by his damn self and barely lost a few of the other game watch the games before you just hop out speaking
Bronsexuals love what ifs 😂
Love his respect for Bron despite the rivalry, great sportsmanship.
I mean hey if you play the same team in the finals 4 years in a row you gotta respect it at some point
Yea being signed to klutch sports can do that
Buddy buddy soft shit
He put down his captain and teammate to big up his team's opponent... that's betrayal not sportsmanship
@@isaacdebeila8085 facts preach on em
It really is wild how much bigger of a human being Steph Curry looks in comparison to 2015. Dude got swoll.
getting a beard gives you a different type of power
@@SockHiggins he got in the weightroom too
Ayesha loves it 😂
@@nanaeb7387 right, but his heard is the reason why he was able to go to the weight room.
@@jimmynguyen7969 his beard?
It’s always crazy to hear PLAYERS talk about LeBron and how good he is and then see so many fans, casual fans at that, speak so poorly of him.
That's part of the Skip Bayless(and media like him) effect.
😂😂😂 it's having eyes Dawg... if by your logic people bought into staff media sold them as facts than propaganda would be at all time highs without needing to do much work cause all you would need is a couple mouth pieces to say your message
@@isaacdebeila8085that’s literally how propaganda works. Have you seen how many people believe Fox News?
Mr Draymond , your basketball commentary is gold. Dont stop. Its not everyday you see an active player so vocal about the game of basketball. You have made a fan out of me .
Thanks.
Nah fr
“This our home this is your home too brother” 2 year later “ you a bitch we don’t need you and can win without you”😂😂
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Was he wrong ?
@@ThePlaybackRoom yeah he was, hence THIS video where he meat eating LeBron again saying they need kd😂draymond is a weirdo
@@guywhodebates8854 but they did need kd
@@pullout_jay2317 yeah its weird gsw fans cant accept that fact no way they are winning against that cavs without kd
I thought we would be getting this interview about this topic 5-10years from now. We’re so blessed to get this now!!
In real time
Draymond spot one about Steph then & now, I was thinking the same. Steph evolved from 15’-22’ into a much better player 💯
Nahh KD saved yall
@@yourtribal_chief653 Did I say he did or didn’t?! 🤦🏾♂️
@@yourtribal_chief653 KD's career got saved by the Dubs. He didn't go there and he'll just be another Barkley or Iverson. A great, great player with no rings. There I've corrected for you
@@yourtribal_chief653 Celtics
He always could get his shot off.
The entire 1 hr 20 min show had some many brilliant, fun moments that they felt the need to break it down to smaller segments.
Where can I watch the full episode again?
Where is the full version
@@axelsame2084 jj reddick podcast
@@matheuspreischak JJ redick's podcast on TH-cam
So true, wish all sports media was like this.
So KD leaving made steph work even harder making him stronger and unstoppable. Thank you KD.
@@adeebkhan1442 better at what?
@@uc3s getting swept in the first round lol while Steph get a ring
@@JesusGonzalez-ii4ykCurCuck better at missing the playoffs 😂
I love listening to Draymond. He’s got such an intelligent take on basketball
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That’s valid. I still feel like GSW could have won, but Steph was not as good as he is now after putting more muscle on his frame and being able to attack the hole when his 3 isn't falling.
......hole.
Cap…
No they won't. Lebron would shit on their asses without KD. Glad Draymond said it himself so that these bandwagon ass, KD-hatin' GSW minions can put some goddamn respekt on Durant's name.
Real talk u don’t know what ur talking abt tbh bro. The 2017 cavs got way better then the year prior. Picked up shooters and so many peices that made then unstoppable. They lost 1 or 2 games heading into the finals…they had the best shooting% other then the warriors with kd. Lil
I don't think it's bcos of that necessarily. Sure muscle additions is great for his current performance and be a more complete player, but back then Steph just fell in love with the 3 too much. There was soo many moments on that game 7 of 2016 finals where he could've took it to the hoop rather than settling for the 3s that he kept bricking. His issues back then was his immaturity, he wanted to embrace that 'best shooter ever' label to the point that it became too predictable for the opponents to guard and neutralize him. While nowadays he seems to balance out his game that he would simply take what the opponents give him despite he's still attempting many 3s, but there's no much more forcing shots unless he tries to do one of those heat checks stuff.
Teams figured out that you were trash & they didn't have to worry about you & they could double off of you... Just admit it, don't try to make Steph a scapegoat for your poor shooting percentage & lack of athleticism.... Humble yourself dude...
the way dray talks about his guys, especially steph is so refreshing man just a real brother fsho
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There is a lot of truth to the part what Draymond green said about Kevin Durant a lot of people from the outside world doesn't give him enough credit overall in that situation. I also think the part that Candace Parker tweeted and what she said about Steph curry and him being so humble and make that sacrifice his numbers to make the thing work with Kevin Durant as a whole and I think that was also a big thing why it worked as well.🏀
I’m in your lane. It’s absurd to think a 73 win team wouldn’t be able to beat LBJ Cavs the second time around… Warriors was too committed in the regular season trying for the winningest record and was a little too spent I think. Warriors as a whole would’ve gotten better and do what’s needed in order to win if KD wasn’t there. I think in people’s minds they know the truth but they don’t want to downplay KD’s impact when he’s on GSW so they just sticking to moments- KD was the MVP on GSW vs my thought - Steph was the MVP of the team.
Yes, Curry30’s gotten stronger, bulk up means a whole lot for his game - becoming a threat inside the paint as well.
@@SamsonOranda I agree, I think they are just trying to protect KDs ego. I think they win without him, it wasn’t like they were going to go from 73 wins to 15, Steph, Klay were going to get better, Dray was going to get better, etc…
@@BlackMarq20 And let's not forget how they tend to find gems to complete their roster, no matter how lowkey the names are. Substracting a player with a quality like Kevin will obviously make any teams weaker, but he could still be replaced by some names which could do the work better than Barnes (they could even stay with Barnes assuming that he got better the yr after kinda like Kawhi did in 2014 after his costly missed ft in game 6 of 2013 finals), that'd still be enough for the team to get over the line with a smaller margin than 4-1 and a sweep in the finals like how it happened in 2017 & 18.
They act like kevin durant went to the warriors and rode the bench to a ring. That dude worked his ass off!
It’s not a knock to KD to say GSW can win without him because it’s true. The Warriors were up 3-1 Vs LBJ/Irving so that do meant something on top that they’re a 73-win team and just beaten a dominant OKC team. In sports, there can be a very fine line between winners and losers. The bigger picture was that the 2016-17 GSW had eliminated one of the bigger threats in the west (KD’s OKC team) before the season even started.
I don’t understand why people act like the Cavs swept the Warriors in 2016. It went 7. Gsw was up 3-1. Steph was injured. Harrison Barnes was ice cold. Draymond missed a game. Klay didn’t play well. Game 7 went down to the wire. Yet people act like it was guaranteed that Cavs would’ve won in 2017 and 2018 without Durant. They do anything to try to discredit Steph and it’s sad. I think Draymond was just trying to save face with Kevin Durant. I’m disappointed in Draymond for this one. He kinda made Steph look bad with this one
forreal, the Cavs weren’t a powerhouse team either, the East was extremely weak those years too
Without Kd they would not have won in 2017 and 18
💯 fax OP
KD made an almost guaranteed 6 or 7 game Finals matchup vs the Cavs into a 4 or 5 game matchup. He made it easier, but the chip was never impossible without KD.
agree. gimme Joe Johnsons 2 years with the Spurs & i think we win at least one of those titles we won with KD
I literally been saying this.. if you look at the finals the year before KD came the cavs figured their offense out. Klay can’t score the same way Steph and kd can do with Steph being the only one to be able to get a bucket off the dribble. They needed KD to come so they could spread the floor better and beat the cavs. THANK YOU DRAYMOND
Bingo
THEY DIDNT NEED KD, they could’ve done with someone who was a solid 20ppg player- KD was overkill and you know it. The media doing their best to save lebricks legacy.
@@deezelkane Well they chose kd for a reason. Literally Steph Klay draymond and iggy went to meet up with kd to make it happen. They felt like that needed him over anyone else so who are you to say they didn’t need him?
@@chiknosis they did not need KD. If you think they specifically needed him, I don’t know what to tell you. He was a free agent, and they all saw easy rings. KD hopped on a team which absolutely Embarrassed him a couple of months earlier
@@deezelkane well then they chose the easy route is all you’re telling me. You’re saying he hopped on a team that embarrassed him but again Steph Klay draymond and iggy flew out to the Hamptons to recruit him, he wasn’t initially going to go to the warriors idk if u knew that, He was convinced and sold a pitch by the main core of that team that’s why he came to the bay
What I would like to know is , if kevin durant doesnt come in 2017, do the warriors still keep harrison barnes or do they get somebody else at the time that was available in free agency like Gordon hayward or bogdanovic who plays for utah.....if I remember correctly gordan Hayward and bogdonavich were free agents also
Harrison Barnes got a nice paycheck and I don't think the warriors were ready to match that. They could have gotten PG though.
Yeah Barnes got a 100 mil contract with Dallas GS was definitely going to let him walk
JJ Reddick and Draymond can say what they want about "old" media. But Stephen A. Smith or the likes of, would've never let Draymond say "the outside world didn't give Kevin Durant his credit in Golden State" without asking Draymond about him being the one that told KD "WE DON'T NEED YOU... YOU WON WITHOUT YOU." Draymond himself didn't give KD the credit he deserved.n
What a disgraceful segment from green. Curry was back to back mvp(unanimous) at the time and was literally destroying everyone and "getting buckets" whenever he wanted. Curry destroyed Durant and okc specially in game 7 and You were up 3-1 over the cavs one more game and ud have won and you wanna sit here and disrespect curry like that. I get it your on lebron nuts but damn to disrespect your own teammate like that it's insane. He talks about people discrediting Curry well just wait and see what everyone gonna say now when the so called "heart and soul" of the warriors discredited him like that
Well I think he is right about Steph not being physically strong till 2018-2019 and that was the reason why he couldn’t get the buckets like KD when it mattered . If you watch finals till 2019, Steph got manhandled by even point guards and struggled sometimes. This year in the finals , Celtics were more physical with him and for a moment I was afraid Steph will fold like 2016 ( I know he was injured )but you can see he overcame all the physical challenges by Celtics. I believe , this version of Steph would have won 2016 and 2019 finals with the same circumstances.
@@Arazorblade he didn't say anything about him physically, he was talking about his level as a player saying that without KD they wouldn't have won cause teams figured them out and basically steph wasn't good enough to win on his own. That is disrespectful to curry and the organization that won 73 games and was one game away from winning it all. This is 100% a jab at curry and just wait and see how it will be quoted and brought up to continue to discredit him
Disgraceful is the word. Draymond is a phuccing lebrick D rider and this whole bit was hard to watch. He needs to issue an apology lol
@@Arazorblade no, dray was saying they needed KD, when KD got absolutely embarrassed by Steph in 2016 coming back from 3-1 down… I’m at a loss for words after seeing this. Drays loyalty is to lebron and this made it very evident
@@deezelkane nah I just lost all respect for him real talk if I'm curry I'm asking he get traded let him go play with kd and lebron and see how trash he is without curry
It depends which players would have taken KD's place if he wasn't on the team ($25m worth). Obviously if you subtract him, the Warriors are at a major disadvantage because they had to become top heavy to sign him in the first place.
I think with Harrison Barnes, he would have made up for his crappy 2016 Finals showing and they win at least 2017 or 2018.
I think if the warriors don’t pick up at least another allstar in 2017 they don’t win. Cavs got better and they blew everyone off the floor in the playoffs easily
Kinda like what Spurs did in 2014 with the same squad after the heartbreak that they got the yr before. I think Dray was a bit disrespectful here with his take (maybe in part to give Kd his due respects and credits).
Curry didn't necessarily needed to be that guy for them to win against Cavs. They won that game 1 & 2 of 2016 finals by a blowout fashion while Curry only scored 13 & 18 points. What they needed was for their wingman (especially Barnes) to hit his open shots off of the double teams that Curry's consistently drawn. Besides, Curry still performed to his standard in some of those gms which was game 4 where he scored 38, game 5 he scored 25, and game 6 he got 30 despite his controversial foul trouble. Game 7 was where he absolutely choked, mainly in the last stretch of the 4th quarter after he hit a 3 to tie the game at 83 all.
the gsw organization is outta the league. they pay the tax no matter how much it is. not many organizations are willing to move mountains for their players. steph dray and klay are drafted in a great org w great owners. they're about to pay 500 million for the total payroll next year if they sign back their players. unheard of lol. when the cap is like 122
Heck even Paul George would've gotten the job done
@@Shemzinho he wasn’t a free agent dummy
Not agreeing on the bucket getting part
2x mvp scoring champ at tht point 30ppg. Lol
Nah I get what he means. We’re not talking one possession, we’re talking about likr down the stretch. The Warriors literally in the last 5 mins down each time give them ball KD and met him work. Steph at that time couldn’t do for an extended stretch. He saying you couldn’t just give the ball to Steph in a close game and say tell him to take us to promise land especially if you compare to KD
@@kellz5796 he talking bout post season when teams are playing defense. Regular season stats and awards don’t mean nothing.
Agreed back then in the playoffs Steph chokes sometimes m his big fan tho but m just saying d truth
@@newrecruit100 just having steph on the court changes things. i agree kd is the better scorer still is but offensively curry is on a different planet. Warriors whole game is based on curry getting doubled and pocket to dray on the roll. you aint letting steph go 1 on 1 again n again back then. but curry has got better ill agree wid tht
Are you trying to pull this argument just to try to demean the argument that the final you lost was because of you? Are you putting Curry down just so you don't feel guilty? In my opinion, if a team is good enough to take it 3-1, it has to be good enough to win just one more game, unless something completely changes the direction of the series (your suspension)
Blah blah blah...
Exactly curry should check draymond 2016 regular season warriors demolish the cavs everytime the finals up 3-1 until draymond got suspended
@@worlstar8163 regular season means nothing. You get much more time to prep for a team in the playoffs.
Exactly and it didn’t help that Steph and iggy were playing hurt and then we lost bogut. It’s ridiculous to say we wouldn’t beat the Cavs without Durant. We were literally one win away. It took a miraculous comeback for them to win and that suspension changed the momentum of the series !!
Totally agree. Draymond is garbage for not thinking enough before he speaks.
1. Bob Myer's outburst during 2017-2018 Parade Speach.
2. Draymond going nuts on Kevin during that the regular season game.
3. Then there was the takes from the talking heads.
Yep. KD didn’t leave because of “outside people.” It started internally.
Replace Durant with Wiggins in 2017 and 2018, I still think the Warriors give the Cavs a run for their money. Andrew Wiggins was averaging 19 points a game from 2016-2018. 24 ppg in 2016.
It would be competitive though I still Cleveland would win if the Warriors didn’t have a guy averaging 35 playing great defense in the finals
You crazy asf
Come on
Cocaine is a hell of a drug...
Wiggins was clearly not the guy he was this year. Not sure He would have operated in 2017 and 2018 the same he did this year.
Draymond you opened the door to Skip Bayless latching on to your comments about Steph and admitting that KD saved you from losing to the Cavs. He has ammunition to use against Steph because it came from his own teammate. Sometimes Draymond thinks what he says is always intelligent and poetic, but he doesn’t realize what he opened the door for just to be “real and authentic”
It wasn't a lie so what's the harm
We don't know if Cavs would have won without KD. The Warriors just needed a better option than Harrison Barnes that scored zero points. The Warriors were up 3-1 for a reason.
@@thechild7355 yeah, but the cavs also got WAY better in 2017, they were a powerhouse, just going against another but with adition of the #1 scorer in the league... And he's one of the smartest players in the game, I go with him in that... also when he says without suspension they win in 2016, 2015 without injuries should prob go for the CAVs and 2018 go for GSW, no Kyrie even without KD they would be in a hibachi, maybe not sweep but prob 5 games, 6 max
@@snock5487 They didn't add anyone to get way better. The East was still weak and the Celtics had the one seed. Kyrie got better but that was it.
Who gives a f*** they still got 4 Titles and Skip still has 0
07:00 my fav moment
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Thanks for the Iggy and Steph context. Iggy was the most clutch player that series remember watching it like damn he can’t miss no corner three where’d this iggy come from he’s more known for his athleticism and defense. Can Curry back in 2016 wasn’t that guy yet I’ve been saying it bcuz if he did close out in game 7he would have been the best player from then to now
incredible breakdown, very accurate
They just needed to trade Harrison Barnes and sign a max player. That EXACT team maybe wouldn't have won, but that's just a maybe.
Like I get that Draymond Stans LeBron and KD, but where the faith in your own group of guys at? Where the faith in your front office?
If he praises Lebron it’s makes HIM look better … think about it , he’s 3-1 against Lebron 😌
Why would they need another max player when they was 73-9 in the regular season with they're core 3 max players 🤔
Faith in your team? They've won 4 in 8 years. That's why he is able to say this. If they didn't win this year I guarantee this take never gets out.
Nah green can go after this he sold out to lebron and KD so much for brotherhood and loyalty
@@vidalmoore3537 because they couldn’t beat a healthy lebron led cavs roster without another max guy
I may not necessarily like Draymond on the court, but I love his take on things and the respect he shows toward others off the court.
Facts. Hes a realist.
Idiotic to say Steph Curry "wasn't that guy" in 2016. You gotta be shttin me. The guy's impact on offense was being compared to MJ, averaged 30 ppg on 50/40/90 and got you 73 wins and Dray got the nerve to say Curry wasn't a bucket-getter. If he's talking about after Curry came back from his ankle/elbow/knee injuries, yes, the knee injury in particular limited his lateral movement. For him to not mention the injured part and act like Curry just didn't show up in 2016 playoffs is disgusting. This is really some Pippen behavior, Dray.
It's disgusting
Somehow he really loves hugging those Lebron's balls like it's his dearest thing lol
Hopefully Draymond sees Chris Broussard's take on what he said about Steph when KD was there. His drunk self spoke out of turn. I love how Chris Broussard broke it all the way down with FACTS. Dray, you hate when the other media puts Steph down for his work back then and you did the same. And for KD. Steph created his shots THEN and now.
If you listened to his previous podcasts, Dray's actually flip-flopping to appease KD.. understandable since alot of ppl were bashing KD after the dubs just won another title, but at the expense of his team and Steph. Really disappointed with Dray's take on this one. This "new media" bs is actually just players driving their own narratives.
@@JohnnyBGood-vm7rx yep he really did and so quickly from what he was saying not too long ago. The thing is because Steph is reserved and humble he knows he'll let it go so they keep the disrespect going. Shouldn't be within the team tho.
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He’s not putting steph down; he’s stating facts without KD their offense was Steph pick n rolls or off ball screens which didn’t work everytime since the cavs started to guard him better on those which forced certain players on GSW to score in a Iso situation which some weren’t really good at
@@ksisniipez They "guarded him better" because the Cavs stopped defending Barnes and Dray on the three because neither of them could hit water if they fell out of a boat that series.
Now tell us what GSW would've done without Curry.
Exactly
In my opinion this just a bad take all around from dray
They figured us out? They just finished winning 73 games n dog walked the entire league.
If the thunder figured out the warriors, they would have won that series.
Curry can't get a bucket whenever he wants? He was coming off a unanimous MVP on 30 ppg for the season, scoring in the top 90 percentile on iso plays. You don't average 30 a game in the association if you can't get your own shot.
Perhaps clarity is required on drays part... but on face value, it's just false
youn know basketball n it shows
@@serotay7531 🙏🤝🏼
And where are you?draymond knows it all thy why he is the nba
Now you know more than one of the key players on the Warriors??? Lol you are mad because what everyone said about Warriors was true. No KD, Cavs go back to back because they figured them out.
@@jolheels21 or... or... I don't know, this just a thought... dray is trying to deflect from the fact that he got himself suspended in the middle of the series in the finals, giving the cavs all the momentum + on top of that their main rim protector Bogut was out with injury n Iggy was injured as well. Just because you're a pro in your field, doesn't mean you're immune from having a bad take. Feel free to rebuttal with anything of substance next time
Well respect to draymond for valuing kd's contribution,( even though you kinda did throw Steph under the bus) if kd was that important to you and could get a bucked whenever he wanted, how about you had passed kd the ball during that clippers game and not called him a bitch, the same guy showed up for the team in game 5 of the finals risking himself major injury
These comments are so milder compared to twitter. A lot of people feel Draymond threw Steph under the bus. I wouldn't go that far, but I will say the optics look bad and he fueled Steph critics. He validated a lot of what they said.
The critics weren’t completely wrong. Kevin joining the team gave Steph enough time to still win while evolving his game and getting his body right. And now it paid out for him in 2022 finals. Wish Bay Area fans would stop hating on kevin bc he just wanted to play winning basketball and he literally helped that organization win 2 championships, its disgusting to see but I guess that’s just how they roll in the bay
@@chiknosis The hate to Kevin only comes bcos of his fans who keeps preaching that nonsense that GS needed him in order to win since the league has catched up to them. It's not independently the hate to Kevin, it's his fans that's indirectly did it to him bcos their BS have invited all of these comebacks. Let's be real about it
@@chiknosis Either his fans, or Curry's haters, or Warriors haters. But you got what I mean
@@judyclarkson5887 well hopefully the fans of gsw can not let the outside noise get to them. They were able to make the most unstoppable team in basketball with the help of Kevin and it would be kind of weird if his jersey gets retired and everybody still hating on him.
@@chiknosis I don't think that his jersey will be retired tho, but we'll see
To say Curry could not create his own shot was a straight lie. This was the same dude who was win MVP unanimously; the same dude who busted up every team in route to winning that award. He recruited KD behind Curry’s back and needed a reason why.
He's basically talking about being that absolutely playoff monster, not just the regular season. He's damn right for sure that they were not going to beat the Cavs without KD. Steph just ran into an older LeBron, and we saw what happened, despite the Lakers barely having chemistry.
Unanimous MVP? But lost in the finals
Props to Draymond for his honesty. As a Cleveland fan we all knew this. If you include 2015 when half our starters were injured (and still took them to 6 games) the Cavs could've won 4 titles in a row. Bad luck and circumstances are par for the course for Cleveland sports.
Definitely disagree with they couldn’t beat the Cavs again without KD, 2017 would’ve been a toss up and in 2018 the Warriors or Rockets would’ve smoked the Cavs because Kyrie was no longer on the team. 2019 Warriors could’ve won as well.
Tell me your a warriors fan without telling me your a warriors fan 🥶
Cavs was definitely better in 2017 than 2016. GSW would beat the 2016 Cavs without KD if they ran it back. but I think 2017 Cavs was much better because they had to built their team to challenge KD warriors. And so I think they would have won in 2017 if warriors didnt have KD.
@@cookiemonster539123 I’m a Rockets fan
But Ky probably doesn’t leave if the Cavs continued winning
@@khwezi_bass Kyrie wanted his “own” team
Listening to this now, super relevant to the Warriors of today. Got by the Kings off Curry 50 point game 7.
“Warriors couldn’t beat Cavs without KD”? C’mon man it took the Cavs 7 games, down to the wire to beat a warriors team with Steph playing on a sprained MCL, Iggy with a bad back looking like a 40 year old that series, Bogut their only rim protector and rebounder out, and Draymond being suspended. A fully healthy team wins that series with ease. False narrative the haters invented, and I’m shocked Dray would lower himself to accept the narrative. I guarantee Steph doesn’t agree with this assessment
Fully healthy Cavs win 2015 but I don’t see warrior Stan’s taking that title away. The fact is that team felt they needed Durant to get over the hump again at that time. The oncourt action validated that stance
@@kambuibomani231 brother leave these GSW meat riders alone they let their bias take over everybody saying GSW win are fans of that team not a neutral person
@@kambuibomani231 over the hump? stop y'all just gotta make excuses for lebron bring a loser it doesn't matter who is on what team lebron got his and curry got his.
It came already from Dray’s mouth. stop it!
It took Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love not playing in the 2015 Finals to win. See how stupid you bandwagon Warriors fans are? It goes both ways clown
Draymond simply said the truth from his perspective. This video ended with him literally calling steph "Unstoppable, and the reason they currently have a 4th ring" Idk how that is insulting steph. He simply stated that Steph wasn't the best version of himself until later, and his explanation was valid.
For me cavs was the better team with kyrie and love 2015 but warriors are by far the best team 2016 they just completely collapse. I feel they would have been able to win again or come close.
They had injured players and Draymond suspension just like Cavs in 2015 but for some reason the narrative is a double standard
@@JasonJia11 refresh my memory, who was injured on gsw that was equivalent to Kevin love n kyrie? 😆 🤣 😂 ya can't 😆 🤣, it's the same logic , when raptors won, aint no way in hell raptors win if kd n klay don't go down
@@blakkwolfblakkwolf Bogut, the rim protector that made it hard for cavs to penetrate. Soon as bogut gone, my mates already confident cavs are winning. Solely base on the last 3 games played
@@panthercrows bruh correct me if I'm wrong ,but that warriors added Anderson varejao, a 6"11 rim protector, a former allstar, whose also familiar with the cavs style of play, no excuses lol 😆 😂 🤣
@@blakkwolfblakkwolf Yeah but 1 series was decided by 1 bucket and even the smallest changes can affect that series
So agree with Green, KD was huge that time and the shots he took was clutch and it so try not many people give enough credit to KD. And love what Andres guard against Lebron, he has huge defend on him.
Respectfully disagree with Draymond. Warriors were up 3-1 on Cavs and would have won if Draymond didn’t get suspended and Bogut didn’t get hurt. Also, 2017/2018, Warriors won 4-1, and 4-0 against Cavs, so they could have had another good player like a Wiggins, in place of Durant, and still won.
@@WorldBeater123 no they wouldn’t but keep Denying it Wiggins wasn’t stopping lebron and ima lebron hater
@@WorldBeater123 they had KD 17 18 goofy
@@yourtribal_chief653 you don’t need to stop Lebron to beat the Cavs. No one stops Lebron. Lebron put up gigantic numbers against Warriors and lost, same against Spurs…etc. Also, KD ain’t guarding Lebron. Again, Warriors had the better team.
@@yourtribal_chief653 That’s my point dude. With KD they were unbeatable, they went 15-1 in the 2017 playoffs, we nearly swept the Cavs twice in the finals. So adding KD to a 73 win team was OVERKILL, that’s why everyone said it was a weak move. Warriors won 73 games with Harrison Barnes dude. We beat Cavs 4-2, 4-3, with any all star caliber player in 2017/2018, didn’t need to be KD, KD just made it unfair
KD’s second finals mvp belongs to steph
Wait… I had to circle back but didn’t Draymond say they didn’t need KD and they won without him???
yeah, they don't neet him to win, but without him they prob lose in 2017, not in 2018 cuz Kyrie left that is 100% gsw win, but they got this CHIP, don't needing KD is about the org, they needing him in 2017 is about the machup, specially with Cavs getting that much better after 2016
@@snock5487 kyrie not leaving in 18 if they won in 17
@@jaynoa4165 yeah, Idk bout that, he was mad cuz he was in "Bron's shadow", maybe he would stay, but I really don't know
@@snock5487 I know kyrie is ya know kyrie 😆 🤣 but who are we to say kyrie would of still left in 2018 if the cavs have back to back chip? Lol hell if kyrie n love didn't get hurt in 2015, cavs could of been on a 3peat entering 2018,and you still see kyrie leaving? Lmfao 😆 😆, your logic doesn't make sense. 🤣
@@blakkwolfblakkwolf yeah, but I'm counting with what happened, yeah maybe Kyrie woulda stayed, but since he didn't in our "timeline" that's what I'm going with
All those iso buckets Steph got in 2015 n 2016 I don’t believe what Draymond said when he said that Steph couldn’t get a bucket whenever he wants. He may be better at it now but it doesn’t mean he wasn’t capable back then
Facts.
How you gone disagree with somebody that been playing with this man for years how could you know more this his teammate
@Beery I would rather listen to the person who was actually out there not just on the couch watching. Kd put them over the top
Nah Draymond right, it’s a difference between then & now Steph…
@@NESGTorro being a teammate is important but your job is your job. You should not be watch other play and have to concentrate on who is guarding you. So we watch all as fan without worry about the defense of other team.
This felt very honest. Very good segment!
it felt honest saying they wouldnt have beaten the cavs without KD ? that was honest to you ? They NEEDED Kevin durant out of all people to beat the cavs ? LOL
@@deezelkane no they needed him to beat LEBRON😂
@@hodge996 if you think the warriors needed KD to beat the cavs, then you’re new to the game. Be quiet
@@hodge996 They beat Lebron with Curry only scored 13 & 18 points in the first 2 gms of that 2016 series. Kd went there was just an overkill and it's perfectly reflected in those 4-1 and 4-0 series in the 2017 & 2018 finals.
@@deezelkane lmao they weren't beating the 2017 cavs
They where a much better roaster than the 2016 cavs they lost too and Andrew boggut wasn't coming back this time.
Also this the same warriors team that went down 2-1 to just lebron not even 2 years before hand
So tell me you don't know basketball without telling me you don't know basketball.
Draymonds logic doesnt make sense….2018 rockets were way better than 2018 cavs yet he says they couldnt beat the 2018 cavs without kd but could beat the rockets without him
You know your basketball! With KD the Rockets team gave the warriors problems while the warriors swept the cavs
Draymond is not making sense
@@josephkanu2778 He’s going off of when the Warriors won against the Rockets WITHOUT KD in 19’ WCF… but I agree on 18’ Rockets 🚀 he probably just dissing them 😂
Facts I hate saying “if” but damnit if CP3 plays those final 2 games in that series we beat GS even with KD, now imagine if KD isn’t even on that team we winning in 6 tbh.
For real. If the Rockets simply hit a few less bricks, they wouldn've been to the Finals. 🤷♂️
@@newagestudios408 if you bring up 'ifs', iggy was clamping the shxt outta cp3 and harden before he got hurt and missed the rest of the series
Great analysis and explanation Mr. Greene
It's alot of truth to this. The Cavs was getting better bad a group. Hell in 15 they lost bcus two of the big 3 was injured. LeBron was a one man show. Without Durant they wouldn't won those titles.
BS
Theyre 1 win away back in '16 and they got beaten becoz bogut iggy got hurt. so how can you tell that they cant beat them the next year?
@@jccp6748 Bogut and Iggy is not 2 prime All stars Kyrie and Kevin Love, get that through your head.
Bogut wasn’t that important the way you bandwagon Warriors fans say he is, he got traded the very next season. Iggy was a no show all playoffs
@@BluesGetOrigin Iguodala was a no show because he got back injury
Say whatchu will about me, as compelling as Dray's explanation is, I still think the Dubs could have beaten the Cavs without KD. Here's why: with the money the Dubs gave KD, they could have used it to beef up the bench with some savvy veterans and role players that fit into the system. Those Cavs team weren't that strong from what I saw and I just don't have enough respect or trust Kyrie's game or character. I think he would have done something to screw it up for the Cavs, but that's my opinion.
Draymond is a clown for this. To say they wouldnt have beaten a team the year after, being up on them 3-1 is ludicrous. I feel like KD mustve paid them to brighten up his mood a little lol.. this video is a mess
Yea you’re wrong the 4 time nba champion Draymond is right
@@podkash ......as 1 person had put it, in 2016 they were up 3-1 while Steph was playing hurt and poorly. It wasn't until the suspension and the two injuries following that is when things turned around for the Cavs. That tells me that at full strength, the Cavs couldn't touch the Warriors.
Now what's your argument?
It’s very valid… that next year Kevin was injured up to the finals and steph led the team to a 12-0 start in the playoffs… I believe if they added a forward more consistent than harrison then they were right back going at least 6 games with the cavs with the mentality that “we are tye better team that lost the lead”
@@podkash so championships mean you can’t be wrong now lmao
Just finished watching the full games of games 1 and 2 of the 2015 finals.
Both games went into OT and were spectacular if you are a fan of defense.
I thought being down Kevin Love, Coach Blatt had a nice game plan in both games.
Game two he had to adjust to not having both K Love and Kyrie and The Cavs were well prepared defensively.
End of game two with The Cavs going crazy with an emotional win, there was a sort of weird scene i caught of Coach Blatt trying to give Bron a rather warm embrace but Bron seemed a little cold towards him in the exchange.
Probably not a huge deal as The Cavs would go on to win game 3 in Cleveland but given that Blatt was released the next season, there must have been some internal differences between head coach and star player?
I am just speculating here and would love to hear from Coach Blatt about his time in Cleveland.
Coaching in the nba is certainly not easy.
Hard to know what would have happened with a healthy K Love and Kyrie in that series because neither is known as great defenders but both are known shot makers, so who knows?
Great games by the way!
I suggest nba fans re-watch both games 1 and 2 to remember the intensity of the moments!
Curry: what are they gonna say now ?
Draymond: without KD we wouldn't have won. 😂
curry next season: What's Green gonna say now ? 😂😂
@Jairus Sarroza not really, in 2016 they just lost by 4 points on game 7. And their best defender Draymond was suspended game 5 and 6. So no they would have beaten the cavaliers with full capacity with a decent 17 to 20 ppg player like Wiggins. KD makes them over qualified, no team would have beaten them had he stayed.
@@joetigo2928 stop making excuses. He ejected himself. Shumpert was injured, Kevin love missed a game and Lebron dropped 40 on his head once he came back. And draumond only missed one game. y’all born haters sad asf
Your taking it out of context bruh! What draymond is saying had they not signed Durant during that 2017 and 2018 finals run they wouldn’t have won it , why? Because teams figured them out so signing kevin was a huge step..if you subtract the championship with kevin not signed if you look at they wouldn’t have won until 2022 so that’s a 6 year title drought ..get it ?
@Kenneth le Sayson they won twice without him, so I don't believe there would have been 6 year draughts. Even despite injuries they took raptors to 6 games. Had Klay have not fallen it would have been a different story.
That’s exactly what I’m saying ..between 2015-2022 the length is 6 years are you dumb?
Well said Mr Green
The only reason the Cavaliers beat them the first time was because of the referees had nothing to do with who was on the Warriors team or on their team for that matter
😂😂😂, the delusion is fcking hilarious
@@bloop2184 right no objective analysis whatsoever
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I actually agree. To be honest I felt like the warriors shouldn't have been in that finals. I actually felt like the thunder got cheated in that series vs the warriors and it should have been thunder vs cavs. But I do feel like the warriors got cheated in that cabs series. They was gonna give cavs a championship that year no matter what
Clown take 😂😂 You have Draymond admitting they would lose to LeBrons Cavs if KD wasn’t there and here you are a random person on the Internet telling the guy that played LeBron what happened LMAOO
Love how people judge draymond with what he says and blames him for the warrior's failures like they're the ones playing on the court and hanging out with steph and the organization on and off the court.
True Steph is a better finisher now than he was a couple years back where he would settle for 3's a lot more than now. But if Warrior's don't get KD and say sign Wiggins, they would've beat the Cavs again.
2017 lebron james?... no bro. Look at his performance in 2017.. Beating that 2017 Cavs u have to not only Lockdown Lebron, u need that high ppg scorer. like kd averaged 35 a game. Not many can do that
This was awesome
I like how everyones like because dray said it , means its true. You can still disagree with his position thats just how he felt at the time. the series still went 7 but if were being honest about 2016 it would've ended in 5. Do I think teams start to figure GSW out sure, but the question is do teams beat you, I dont think so, I think Kevin made it easier through the conference but without him i still felt like GSW was the best team. Also who do you get in free agency , what is the team look like?
The reality is the best team doesn't always win, I felt like the celtics were the better team but GSW still beat them. If you confident you can compeltly dismantle that houston team an all time Houston team with CP3 and Harden THAT ALL TIME TEAM that people picked to make the finals and win. With that 2015/2016 team i just don't see how you give yourself so little a chance thats weird to me. But that's his position i respectfully disagree with it though.
Loved Kevin and what he did for GSW but as a fan of competetion im going to stand by it you guys did not need another superstar.
And for ppl who's currently stroking to themselves bcos Draymond just said what they wanna hear (that GS wouldn't win against Cavs post 2016 without Durant), Shumpert has said that Cavs could've lost that game 5 where Draymond didn't play and it would be another Warriors ring with Kyrie & Love actually played (completely cancelled their excuses the yr before).
So don't just hear what you wanna hear. Be fair
@@judyclarkson5887 if you read at all I said "but that's his position I respectfully disagree with it though".
I will always say that they didn't need another superstar on that team because it was that great of a team.
@@justinoliver4053 Nope wasn’t that great if you think about it. 2015 Finals they beat Cavs because both Kyrie and Love were out injured, that’s like LeBron beating Curry without Klay and Draymond. Coming into the 2016 Finals there was that narrative, and what do you know it gets confirmed when they get beaten by a healthy Cavs. Following year they KNEW they were not gonna beat the Cavs and personally asked KD to join them
The 2x MVP Curry and DPOY Draymond would not have asked KD to join if they knew they could do it themselves.
A lot of basketball is mental. If draymond is saying this, he's not the only player who thought this. They would have lost without KD with this mentality.
whatever to make yourself feel better. lol
Draymond is so obviously sour that he didn’t get that finals MVP hahahha he really has the nerve to say Steph couldn’t go get a bucket as if Steph wasn’t hobbling around on one leg while Draymond got himself suspended for kicking people in the balls lmao. Steph is healthy and that 73-9 win team takes the series in 5. It’s that simple.
You definitely are right about that but do you respect Draymond green competitive fire overall Jessica?🏀😁
@@michaelwhite1012 simp
SPEAK TRUTH DRAY!❤🙌🏿💪🏾🙏
Draymond sound like he campaigning for LeBron a lot of the times. Skip Bayless got that part right. Divided loyalty is bad for business.
Exactly. Pathetic, to real men. A genuine boy move.
YES... wtf is draymond even saying in this video. Complete D rider, im embarrssed for him. He has more loyalty to lebron than he does for steph
they just literally won a title? glad we could find the most successful youtube commenters in one spot here for all their 100% completely qualified opinions lmao
@@doestheastro Look dude, It's my opinion. I'm allowed to have one. That's why they have the video up, so the general audience can comment. The disable comment option is available.
@SM Taylor men have the confidence to give credit to others. Maturity is what boys lack and Draymond is mature.
No Love and Irving in 2015
I am not a warriors fan but no matter how authentic or whatever new media, this is not cool at all. Draymond truly is the weirdest teammate. Never seen a teammate who played together let alone that's currently on the same team try to diminish their best player's value and success repeatedly and praise the opponents you went against 4 times and a teammate who left you because of their fragile ego. Andre Igoudala on the other hand always been a reasonable voice for Steph and Klay who don't have the ego to speak about themselves all the time. Draymond should be defending and praising his brothers that went to battle with and literally made his career for the past decade no matter what he actually thinks just because these people are the most loyal and best teammates you ever had. There are already enough doubters, haters, and criticism from the outside but no need for this kind of talk to come from Draymond from the inside! Absolutely not cool as a teammate!
When did he discredit Steph?
The Cavs would’ve won 3 straight if it weren’t for KD joining that team. They’d figured them out completely.
No Draymond your the problem was curry was the only that can get buckets on his own but also the only one that's getting double and triple team but nobody was making opening shots
Facts
Facts.
Nailed it
Clutch Sports employee of the year!
Respectfully disagree with Draymond. In 2016 Warriors were up 3-1 on Cavs and would have won if Draymond didn’t get suspended and Bogut didn’t get hurt. Also, 2017/2018, Warriors won 4-1, and 4-0 against Cavs, so they could have had another good player like a Wiggins, in place of Durant, and still won.
Lmao So Wiggins averaging 35ppg in Finals? 😂 this a foolish statement
@@Coolkev_2323 No you’re lack of understanding of what I said is foolish. Follow this time. Warriors won 4-1 and 4-0 with KD, they went 15-1 in the playoffs in 2017 with him. They didn’t NEED a player of KD’s quality to win it all. With KD they were unbeatable, that’s why everyone said the move was weak. They already won 73 games with Harrison Barnes dude. They only lost in 2016 cause Dray got suspended and Bogut got hurt. A healthy Warriors would have WON in 2016 without KD. Get it? They didn’t need another player scoring 35pts to win in 2017, 2018, could have been a Wiggins or Pool chipping in 18pts. So instead of beating Cavs 4-1 and 4-0, it would have been 4-2 or 4-3, but Warriors still would have won.
@@Coolkev_2323 they didnt need kevin durant to beat the cavs, they needed a solid wing, someone who wouldnt completely disappear like barnes. KD was just overkill
Warriors don't win their first ring if Kyrie don't get hurt
@@familychannel7050 cavs don’t come back if draymond doesn’t get suspended
The start 💯
Draymond is smart. There’s no need to burn bridges with KD…the trio has 4 chips, but if KD ever wanted to come back….Draymond is leaving that door open lol
Got nothing to do with KD. He was popping up Lebron to be better than Steph. That was all. He is kissing up to Lebron and became a fanboy.
He going to burn a bridge with Steph trying to stay connected to LeBron and Kd.
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Warriors definitely could have won without KD I think Draymond is just giving KD his flowers
He’s giving him his flowers because he earned it. So any opinion that’s against the consensus narrative is him nut hugging his ex teammate?
No way in hell the Warriors would of beaten the CAVS without KD.
@@lumumba57 so why did it go 7 games bruh???? You’re acting like they got swept???
Nah u can’t accept that draymond speaking facts 😂🧢
The sky is blue
I don’t think yall understand what he’s saying. Yes we know the were good enough to be up 3-1. Yes we heard all the other stuff steph bought injured dray suspended for 1 game we get it. But they played. Kobe had broke fingers and played no excuses.
But being up 3-1 then losing crushed them mentally. Bron and kyrie figured them out. If the warriors felt like they could beat them then they would’ve ran it back instead they needed KD to offset bron at his peak. Stop trying to disagree and take his word for it seriously.
It's nonsense. Harrison barnes gave them NOTHING. replace him with a reliable 3 and d shot creator and BOOM another ring
The KD to the Warriors talk happened long before the finals happened. The Warriors were planning to go after him regardless
@@newrecruit100 yeah that's all started After Game 7 Western Conference Finals... the month before the finals and two months before KD joined the Warriors.
I looked up the free agents during the 16-17, and the only notable stars there that could help was, KD, Derozan, beal, conley, wade to some extent, among the free agents available there was none better than KD that fit the missing position, maybe demar but can you really top the max contract offers of the other teams?.
@@IknowMoreThanYou if ariza don’t get injured in 08 Kobe 3 peat but what dray said was facts they cried for kd to come to offset bron
Isn’t that absolutely incredible!!!
Seems like Draymond just tryna defend KDs decision and defend Lebron losses
It seems like u just don’t agree with what he said. Not everyone has ulterior motives
He’s saying facts either way
Layin down TRUTH Mr Green
We didn't need KD to be the Cavs, we just needed a solid defender, that could actually score points.. We needed someone to take up Draymond's slack on the floor... We needed a Andrew Wiggins.
2017 Cavs would kill 2022 Warriors
KD was getting miracle buckets against the cavs. Nobody else could have got them out of that series.
Steph was a choker in big moments until 2022 lol Warriors would have 0 chips if they faced healthy teams luckiest dynasty in nba history
@@bboog247 2023 nuggets swept lebron
Excellent point on Steph. With the way he gets to the hole now, he can get a bucket anytime....
You just validated every single thing Skip Baywatch has ever said about Steph….damn Dray gots to do better
He starts out by saying how people dislike and discredit steph and turns around same segment and gives them enough ammunition for a lifetime. That was a clear jab at curry to make lebron and KD look better just wow.....
@@chasex5904 I mean, there's a reason why they call him 'donkey green' bruh 😂
Hes just telling the truth and yoi retsrded fanboys cant deal. Its funny😂😂😂
well said dray
I love Draymond Green sincerity and the respect he gave to Kevin Durant.
I respect Dray
Of course Houston wouldn't have beaten them.😂 2019 proved that. Good on you Dray.
If KD isn't on the Warriors in 2018, the Rockets win that series. The 2019 Rockets team was much weaker.
if you literally watched the finals of 2015-2018 carefully, you would known for a fact if it wasn't for KD. Cavs wouldve won 2017 and maybe 2018.
He’s not lying 🤥 we were not beating the cavs without Kevin…!!!
Why not, it went down to the wire in game 7, with an injured St3ph and refs helping Lebron.
@@funkslave9425 You were up 3-1 bro no excuses you had game 5 at home, Dray came back in game 6 Bron still dropped 41, Game 7 Bron didn’t even play well as you think, Dray was playing better than everyone on that floor in game 7. Curry just clearly choked and Klay was cold.
Closing comments gave me chills
Draymond is either trying to be nice to his friend, the sensitive, KD. Or he is simply delusional. The Warriors set the record of 73 games won in 2016 regular season without KD. And came 1 win away from repeating as champs. With KD they never got anywhere close to that #. Maybe it helped in the playoffs. But I doubt that the whole league would just suddenly know how to beat them the very next season after they set the all time record and would have won it all if not for a suspension and other factors going against them. KD is a very good player though.
And so much for "teams have figured them out" when this yr has been 5 yrs from that point of time, and teams still looks so clueless in order to neutralize this team when they're on a roll. Still no one plays like them and outsmart them in fact as we've seen in this recent postseason. Like cmon Dray you can be better than this in your assessment lol
man yall know more than players yall should go to the NBA instead
Dray just trying to be nice because he’s partially the blame for Warriors finals lost in 15. He knows full well the Warriors as is were heads and shoulders above all other teams as they showed in the regular season and playoff including the finals. If big man Bogut didn’t go down Warriors would have mopped the Cavs in 5. They lost all 3 games after he went out.
How is some internet guy named Diego going to tell an NBA player that PLAYS for the Warriors what would’ve happened? 😂 bro shutup you don’t know more than him lol
@@viperguyz *16. Yeah with or without KD, they were that good. Their actual finals series performance got better with KD, but in the overall season it was better before he joined. Now they've beaten the whole league again when they weren't even at full strength.
I love the way Warriors players throw subtle shots at KD 😂😂 give him his respect for helping them win then sprinkle some salt on the wound. KD was the main one arguing that double team point, he can’t analyze the game better than Skip without putting his emotions in it 😂😂
Amazing basketball analysis. Give us more and thank you.
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The dumb talk. He contradicted to his own statements for what. Not actually for KD if u know, he is protecting LBJ, lmfao
Great one
I believe the Warriors could have won it all in 2017 without KD. However, in 2018 Steph missed six playoff games, so it would have been hard for them to go all the way without KD in the lineup.
He missed 2 weeks in 2016 playoffs they still won.
Think about it, Warriors were already not motivated after choking a 3-1 lead. Why do you think they were going to beat a "healthy" and motivated Cavs team in 2017's finals? What? You think Harrison barnes was going to fill KD's gap? People seem to forget that KD averaged 35 ppg shooting 55% from the field in 2017's finals which no one else in the league at that time could've averaged such crazy numbers except for Lebron so they needed someone to match Lebron's high scoring games and efficiency and KD filled that role perfectly. You heard it from a guy that actually plays in the team so anything else said by fans talking out of their ass invalid because Draymond just ended that delusional discussion thinking the Cavs were going to beat a healthy Cavs team 2017/2018 without KD...
They could have won it in 2016 if the league didn't step in to suspend Dray and take out Steph in game 6 with the softest fouls called ever in a finals. Go re-watch the play in game 4, no fouls were called in that play, yet hours after the game after LeFraud lobbied for suspension, Dray was magically given a flagrant?? LoL
the 2017 cavs were better than 2016 so your trippin
@@jwil2414 - Yeah, but they lost in the Finals to Cleveland. That’s the point.
What a fucking breakdown!
Dray has an enhanced visualization of himself. It’s ok. It’s healthy. But, the Cavs beat the Warriors in 16 cuz Steph was playing on a bad wheel, Bogut couldn’t finish the series due to injury, Dray got suspended, and Iggy was hurt as well I believe. Change any of those factors and the Warriors win. Steph didn’t lack that ability at the time, he was just hampered.
Can't leave out Barnes having a horrendous series as the 3rd option. Dude be bricking all of his open shots that series 🤦♂️
@@judyclarkson5887 oh, I can leave that out. Cuz, it didn’t impact the result of the series. Players sometimes don’t play well.
Y’all still gotta realize the cavs came back as a better team with all those excuses y’all made. In 2015 the cavs were missing the two Allstars not named lebron and still pushed them 6 games and would have won game 1 if lebron drove over shooting a three
Ur a Dumb warriors fan I’m sure lol “blanco smoke” explaining what a dude on the court who played in these series really meant. I love it. KD ruined a rivalry for the ages.
@@jasonclark6701 you're missing the point - the asterisk for the warriors in 15 was that they beat an injured cavs team... a year later the cavs beat an injured warriors team, but because people want to nitpick n say it wasn't curry (even though he wasn't 100%) or klay, they don't hold the same energy
Draymond needs to be traded. Klutch has infected his brain.
I love how Green is like, Steph is our Jesus. We need his buckets to save us.