Waoh..... How Karan Thapar listened & how I watched this interview was like a good kid back in the days listening to grandparents story & folk tales. History was never boring when author hostorian like William Dalrypmle tells you in such an interesting & detailed like I was visting at that era of time. Such a fascinating & intresting interview. Learned & knew many new things about India's history with the world & the 3 roads. Thank you Karan Thapar for this interview & William Dalrymple for such wonderful effort for writing this book & many more contribution till date about Indian history. I'm getting this book now 🎉
What am amazing interview! Mr. Thapar you are incredibly superior to all the teeny interviewers that are around. Mr. Dalrymple i have read your White Mughals and have been fascinated by it. Your work and your dedication to storytelling makes history fascinating and something to always look forward to eagerly. Thank you two giants. Your coming together shakes the senses lying stagnant in the present regime. Thank you. ❤
Its not eloquency or command over language or knowledge that is important. It is your loyalty to the nation that is overridingly important. You know where his loyalties are. We know about his relative Romilla Thapar and her deliberate distortion of history and his father, a failed army general.
I even read White Mughal, and tbh, I really liked it so much and found it so amazing to read the sad story of a beautiful woman from a noble house of Hyderabad and her struggle after husband passed away, and specially bading farewell to her children to UK So disheartening 😢
@@dhanaazm7897. You say why there’s a problem in calling this Thapar a giant? Yes sir there’s a problem. This “giant” of yours had an aunt who belittled everything good that existed in the Indian civilisation while eulogising the greatness of Islamic invaders. This guy needs to be counted amongst the pygmies of our country.
This interview is not at all partisan. I liked it. Dalrymple has done a phenomenal job in making reading history enjoyable and captivating for ordinary people. Thank you for the wonderful work 🎉
This is what happens when India gains, self respect and economic prosperity. The point is that eating meat or not is just a cultural context . The basic philosophical ideas is what matters in the end. The idea of “ one truth but wise speak of it many ways “ Is the foundational idea .
A very good confirmation and reiteration of truths about Bharat's unparalleled grand - but distant - past that we all have had some glimpses of although it was deliberately kept hidden from us by our invading rascals., and their goons. My question is that now that we are finding it out, what we plan to do with this knowledge? Just bask in its glory and pride forever ? Shouldn't we seriously try to recreate it and drive our nation out of poverty, social degradation and proliferating population? What happened to all that greatness? I am critical because we need to not dwell in the past, but move forward. and MIGA...Make India great Again! 🤩🤩
The Anarchy: The Relentless Rise of the East India Company and The Last Mughal: The Fall of Delhi, 1857 are among the best history books written by Dalrymple. Would love to read more books authored by him.
@@40_plus_OriginalArabiQurans I was recommended Mohammed Hijab, Shaykh Uthman, brother Hashim, Sabeel Ahmed and Ali Dawah. They’re really good in explaining things with facts and evidence.
Fantastic interview like others by Karan. I do contribute for last two years. The author is really a painstaking researcher and deserves a lot of love and respect.
From interest in archeology in Mesopotamia William Dalymple has metamorphosed to a wonderful and in - depth writer of Indian History from its ancient roots to towards.
Jai Hind sir. It is the honour of India as reflectng the history of our Nation through the book " The Golden Road " written by William, he apparently through his book reminds the Indian history in terms of Hinduism, Buddhism and the spread of mathematical value across Asia and Europe. We must thank to such knowledgeable person for making such contribution which widen the eye of not only Indian but all over the world. May God give more strength to explore on many unknown facts in the world.
"Don't get lost in the details!" says Thapar when William talks about his relative/ancestor. Thapar, we are more interested in listening to William's 'ramblings' than your interview. Also loved how William makes a point against Marxist historians of India (just before the outburst above). That must have bothered Karan Thapar, considering how he is related to the grandmother of all Marxist historians, Romila Thapar. Also funny to see some comments here cautioning people about "Hindu hypernationalism". Classic example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Funniest, though, is someone saying that a lot of it is "conjecture". If anything, William is being conservative about India's influence. Crazy to see such reactions.
What can we expect from him and his regular audience. I have lost respect for almost all journalists (except maybe Saurabh) who have been consumed by their ideology so much (either left or right) that they can't bear to see the other side of things. You're right though, this interview will trigger some people obviously as it shows a positive and powerful Indian influence for a change. I highly doubt Karan would've even invited anyone like William if he wasn't a white person (telling us about our history) because anyone talking about this is immediately branded a far-from-reality-andh-bhakt on this platform if he/she is brown.
@@kamalverma4641 you see, you seem to be under the impression that you have some superior intellect that gives you the authority to decide who lacks 'common sense' and who doesn't, that itself reflects bad on your common sense score.
I am going to buy immediately, thank you Karan for bringing William. I want you to this after 6 months in more detail, as we love to listen to William.
The black pepper, speices and good steel from south of India was very popular. Along with Gujarat ports, Kerala ports was key to major chunk of Business. Even now the roman coins are digged out. Large Jewish presence reported 2500 years in South..
So now that we finally have a stamp of approval of a "gora" scholar, let's hope the world will really recognise India's historical importance. Although this in no means is a criticism of Mr. Dalrymple. He is an Indian at heart who has written numerous volumes recounting detailed historical accounts about the cruelty of the East India Company.
The world acknowledges india's contribution way more than what we assume. All the 'knowledge' was already lying forgotten by the time western indologists came. But yes, the world is not going to acknowledge obvious nonsense like ancient spacecrafts and nuclear weapons.😂
@@xcel5203 WOW!! No. I'm not. "Bertie" is an inside joke in my family. And I picked the name "Athenaeum" basing it on Aristotle's academy "Lyceum" which was named after the Apollo Lyceus, the site where the Peripatetic school of philosophy was founded by Aristotle in 334 BC. I named it after Athena, the goddess of knowledge, as I'm a student of Physics & Mathematics. I wanted the name of the channel to be something like "Sharda Peeth" but I didn't pick it because I don't think I could be deserving of the name "Sharda Peeth" (which happens to be the first mutt established by Adi Sankara). So, to answer in short, I'm very much an Indian, although I would agree due to my upbringing, English has been somewhat my "lingua dilectus". Also, even if I was an englishman how would that make my point any less valuable, which was that somehow the west always accepts things about India when someone from the west attests it, even when Indian scholars have been screaming the same things at the top of their lungs! I was literally mocking the west's bias!
What Fascinating Stuff ! 👌👌👌 Thank you Mr. Darlymple , for your Deep Insight ‘ into Ancient India ,and its Glorious Past, and for narrating it with such Honesty , Passion ,and Unbiassed View Point. 🙏 And Mr. Karan Thaper for Navigating the Conversation with equal Diligence !👌👌🙏 Learned a Lot from your Conversation today. 😊 Will certainly Buy this Book soon. 👍
I suggest Karan to send this interview to his own sister Romila Thapar so that she can feel an iota of shame for writing skewed history to show both Bharat and Hindus in poor light.
@@sumit92artist Her work is as rotten as rotten tomatoes.She is a Congi stooge who was tasked to twist the history to suit agenda of Congress and Marxists.
The Wire must interview Bhaskar’s Kamble on his book, The Imperishable Seed: How Hindu Mathematics Changed the World and why this History was Erased! It’s a great follow up to Dalrymple’ book.
It is frustrating to see him trying to control the guest. It seems whenever something is said by the guest which does not match his ideology, he feels frustrated and wants to change the flow of the conversation. I don't know, it is his age or ideology, he seems to behave more like a novice rather than a journalist who has been in the business for decades.
This is what the saffron brigade has been shouting hoarse all along. This was never in the History text books that children got to read. Mughal rule and a bit of British raj was all the History that was presented as Indian History.
Good interview, Karan Thapar. I wish it had been longer, without interruptions from your side. Your audience is capable of understanding what William Dalrymple is saying. As someone who is not a historian but is fascinated by the subject, could you kindly include historians and archaeologists who are working in South India, especially in Tamil Nadu, to share their perspectives on recent findings in Keeladi etc., and the need to rewrite the historically North-centric narrative to be more balanced? There is the fact after all that the new digs at Keeladi have pushed the Sangam period further back revealing many new concepts. You may even want to forward this comment to William Dalrymple with the hope that he will turn his attention to this topic and pay greater attention to what went on in the South and maybe write a scholarly tome. Thanks!
Karan’s own sister Romila Thapar,a Marxist historian assigned by Congress Govts played a pivotal in putting down India’s and Hindu’s incredible achievements and influence.She completely doctored academia history books glorifying only Mughals and invaders,at the same time erasing Hindu resistance and bravery in face of horrendous attacks on our culture,way of life and temples.History will never forgive the likes of Romila Thapar
I don't know what books you were raised on, but in our school years, there was no glorification of any Mughals even though India reached the zenith of economic prosperity under Aurangxeb @ 25% of global GDP
Karan shouldn't interrupt. It diverts what the main person wants to say. MAIN POINT: William was mentioning about Maccaulay's misdemeanors, around the 9th minute. Karan made him side step that. Not fair at all. William was honestly saying somethinh important.
India's rich past should inspire progress, but true development requires focusing on building an equitable and sustainable future by addressing structural challenges. The IPL serves as a microcosm of India's development, showcasing world-class success in business and entertainment while highlighting persistent issues like inequality and governance. Its success underscores India's potential, but also the need for inclusive growth that benefits the entire population, not just the elite few-a reflection of where India stands today.
I have to buy this book after this interview. William, this was not an interview, it was a performance. Outstanding I’m just thinking how interesting the book would be.
True thank you for bringing this to the frontview Mr William Darlymple. This is very enlightening as least 1000 years has been invaded and stolen and massacred golden history is lost. Thank you for throwing so much light on the history. I do recollect in tamil literature there is plentiful mention of romans and trade with rome.
Karan Thapar ji, you are interviewing William Dalrymple. I have a request for you, please consider it as a request, please send it to William Dalrymple ji, it will be a great favour of yours. The question is why the Hindi translation of William Dalrymple ji's books is not available. When will the Hindi translation of William Dalrymple ji's books be available for Hindi readers? If you send this message to William Dalrymple ji, it will be a great favour of yours. Especially for the Hindi readers who read books only in Hindi. Thank you very much.
When William wrote the White Mughals, given his fascination with the Mughals, he was torn to pieces by the Indian right wing and he was not given the due respect. This explains why some publishers thought that translating his book is not worth while. The right wing will change their views once William's Golden Road comes out. This is what the right wing does and its a question you should ask them.
Karan, Tamil merchants were the first to reach the shores of South East Asia. They established their trade network and then they brought South Brahmins and Buddhists along with them on their merchant ships.
Read the book. Absolute joy. Filled me with a sense of pride. I feel sorry for Mr. Thapar that he has to digest admiration of India by a foreigner in his show. Had it been an Indian he would have straightway termed him a bhakt.
@@NandaKumar-bx8qcI can’t speak for Karan, bur when we listen to Wiliam speak it is not because we dont know anything on this subject, but rather a curiosity on what has been documented/archived and available for verification. A new knowledge on India becomes hard to come by and is mired with a lot of chest-thumping especially the social media era. It’s good to listen to absolute facts just for a change!
I disagree with your estimate of Mr. Thapar. Dalyrmple provides solid evidence and proof backed by serious scholarship. Thapar understands and appreciates this and so accords him the respect due. Had an Indian done the same, instead of making wild, unfounded and indeed laughable claims (as bhakts tend to do), he'd have listened to him too. You do them both a disservice by such a comment.
William Dalrymple has his facts on his fingertips and an invigorating style of his own.A must read to fill up our gaps in knowledge about our own history.
Really? I thought Lord Rama was Bharat and Bharat was Lord Rama. If, I remember my history, it was the Buddhists who showed Mohammed bin Qasim how to get the better of Raja Dahir in Sindh, opening the gates for Islam to come flooding in, putting an end to Buddhism in Bharat and compelling it to spread outward. 🇮🇱♥️🇮🇳
करण थापर जी, आप विलियम डेलरिम्पल का इंटरव्यू ले रहे हैं। आपसे एक निवेदन है, कृपया इसे बिनती समझकर विलियम डेलरिम्पल जी तक पहुंचा दें, आपका बहुत बड़ा उपकार होगा। प्रश्न यह है कि विलियम डेलरिम्पल जी की पुस्तकों का हिंदी अनुवाद उपलब्ध क्यू नहीं है। विलियम डेलरिम्पल जी की पुस्तकों का हिंदी अनुवाद हिंदी पाठकों के लिए कब उपलब्ध होगा? यदि आप यह संदेश विलियम डेलरिम्पल जी तक पहुंचा दें, तो आपका बहुत बड़ा उपकार होगा। खासकर हिंदी पाठकों वर्ग के लिए जो केवल हिंदी में ही पुस्तकें पढ़ते हैं। बहुत-बहुत धन्यवाद।
Dearest Noble William Dalrymple i would love to know more of the trading between ancient Egypt, Greece and India, nature ( the trade winds ) set sails to east coast of Africa also trading Greeks.
The book provides a well-articulated historical perspective, yet it overlooks one of India’s most significant modern contributions to the world: the global spread of yoga. In the current and previous centuries, yoga has transcended geographical and cultural boundaries, reaching not only the East but virtually every part of the world. So widespread is its influence that yoga today often feels less distinctly Indian. However, I believe that by the end of this century, yoga’s influence will deepen further as it expands to include broader spiritual practices beyond asanas, pranayama, and meditation. This evolution will likely solidify India’s cultural and spiritual impact on a global scale
a very good interview...seems karan was looking to put politics in the end just to discredit all the efforts made by william...for the people like karan history is juat what he believes in only rest is mythology...
Indians are kept unaware thanks to his useless aunt romila thappar and irfan habib, Marxist historians I studied history in ST. Stephen’s in the 90s the syllabus was bad and teachers were. pathetic teaching same old nonsense.irfan habib , rs sharma lies were brought out by Dr KK Mohammad and Dr.Arif Mohammad khan 1 Reply
Hope Karan Thapar's cousin, Romila Thapar, had done a tith of research about India compared to what William Dalrymple has done as an outsider. Kudos to you sir!
Through the wire, may i gift 3 copies of this book - one for Kamal Hasan (who says India never existed), one for Raul Vinci (who says India is a khichdi of parts), and one for Mamta didi, before she migrates to Bangladesh?
Open your mind a little more than what you did already sir. They are saying 'India' just for the sake of proper reference of location to the viewers, they didn't get into the details like the rulers of different regions of present India at that time, neither did they mention anything about integrity or unity among different rulers or the population of those regions at that time. Political views by politicians are completely subjective and they can mould anything they say into anything they want.
@malianwong please check real history not Macaulay as William said. India is called tianzu by chinese.. infact they divided into 5 indias.. north, south, central, west and east.. if they looked as different they would have mentioned different names right?? 1st understand difference between nation and state.. political large state is extremely difficult to become In ancient times.. please check this link and open ur eyes.. this is not political be apolitical.. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianzhu_(India) In vishnu puran also mentioned.. the land between Himalayas and indian ocean is called india.. we may not politically one state.. it's impossible bcoz therr is no technology to that.. but we are civilizationally one nation not state...
Stories of our past lay hid plainly in sight. None to hear, none to care, they lay in despair Till they came from afar, brought them to light. Asked they: Did you not know tales of your ancient glory? No, we said, all we need are stories that are holy. Hence, my fellow-subcontinentals, blame whoever you want for our sorry state😥, but look at ourselves first.
Thank you William Darlymple for studying the India related history and presenting it so well. 🙏🏽
This interview is a historical masterpiece. Absolutely enjoyed it.
Terrible interview. You must have some really low standards.😂
@@manutrivedi5771 its evident you didn't understand any of it.
@@anniemody leave the troll. they must be believing in the ramayana atomic weapons.
Waoh..... How Karan Thapar listened & how I watched this interview was like a good kid back in the days listening to grandparents story & folk tales. History was never boring when author hostorian like William Dalrypmle tells you in such an interesting & detailed like I was visting at that era of time. Such a fascinating & intresting interview. Learned & knew many new things about India's history with the world & the 3 roads. Thank you Karan Thapar for this interview & William Dalrymple for such wonderful effort for writing this book & many more contribution till date about Indian history. I'm getting this book now 🎉
Sorry to say history is not story pls don't mess with history in India people mess with this subject
@@AmanRaj-kd1if agaye
In other news Arfa Khaanum has declared this book non secular and has shown Mr Dalrymple is a Sanghi 😂
She will get good salary increment from WIRE management.
😂
Truth is hard to digest by many.......Indians😅...it is our time again after 1000CE...
What am amazing interview! Mr. Thapar you are incredibly superior to all the teeny interviewers that are around. Mr. Dalrymple i have read your White Mughals and have been fascinated by it. Your work and your dedication to storytelling makes history fascinating and something to always look forward to eagerly. Thank you two giants. Your coming together shakes the senses lying stagnant in the present regime. Thank you. ❤
You called Thapar a giant...
Yes. Any problem?
Its not eloquency or command over language or knowledge that is important. It is your loyalty to the nation that is overridingly important. You know where his loyalties are. We know about his relative Romilla Thapar and her deliberate distortion of history and his father, a failed army general.
I even read White Mughal, and tbh, I really liked it so much and found it so amazing to read the sad story of a beautiful woman from a noble house of Hyderabad and her struggle after husband passed away, and specially bading farewell to her children to UK
So disheartening 😢
@@dhanaazm7897. You say why there’s a problem in calling this Thapar a giant? Yes sir there’s a problem. This “giant” of yours had an aunt who belittled everything good that existed in the Indian civilisation while eulogising the greatness of Islamic invaders. This guy needs to be counted amongst the pygmies of our country.
A book I Must read..Thank you William Dalrymple and Thank You Karan Thapparji for this discussion..Enlightening
Read Sanjeev sandal book too
Rajeev sanyal
@@ushahariharan3268 can some one tell book name ....which he mentioned 50.00 minute
@@ram2ravanan987 The Golden Road
Thank you Karan Thapar for this wonderful interview . Thank you William dalrymple for the wonderful book .
This interview is not at all partisan. I liked it. Dalrymple has done a phenomenal job in making reading history enjoyable and captivating for ordinary people. Thank you for the wonderful work 🎉
This is what happens when India gains, self respect and economic prosperity. The point is that eating meat or not is just a cultural context . The basic philosophical ideas is what matters in the end. The idea of “ one truth but wise speak of it many ways “ Is the foundational idea .
A very good confirmation and reiteration of truths about Bharat's unparalleled grand - but distant - past that we all have had some glimpses of although it was deliberately kept hidden from us by our invading rascals., and their goons. My question is that now that we are finding it out, what we plan to do with this knowledge? Just bask in its glory and pride forever ? Shouldn't we seriously try to recreate it and drive our nation out of poverty, social degradation and proliferating population? What happened to all that greatness? I am critical because we need to not dwell in the past, but move forward. and MIGA...Make India great Again! 🤩🤩
MIGA !! 👍🏻👍🏻
The Anarchy: The Relentless Rise of the East India Company and The Last Mughal: The Fall of Delhi, 1857 are among the best history books written by Dalrymple. Would love to read more books authored by him.
For more fun read Irfan Habib, Mridula Mukherjee.
@@Dadasahab1234Those books fall into the category of Propaganda, right?
@@FreddieMurphy746watch exmuslim sahil, Adam seeker, zafar heretic and quranwala
@@40_plus_OriginalArabiQurans I was recommended Mohammed Hijab, Shaykh Uthman, brother Hashim, Sabeel Ahmed and Ali Dawah. They’re really good in explaining things with facts and evidence.
@@suryaprakash72771 sahi keh rahe ho, momo ko wahi choti ammi ke kapde pehanne ke baad hi aati thi
Fantastic interview like others by Karan. I do contribute for last two years.
The author is really a painstaking researcher and deserves a lot of love and respect.
Whattay lovely structuring of narratives Karan!
Love Williams work as always. Extremely insightful and scholarly b
Damn! Karan Thapar has been doing some insanely good interviews recently.
Even in India they are not glorifying the South Indian dynasty and its trade, especially the archeological exploration, literature and culture
**"The talk between Karan and Dalrymple was marvelous. I thoroughly enjoyed it."**
Prof. D.P. Chattapadhyaya has done phenomenal historical research on ancient and medieval scientific achievements in South Asia.
Brilliant…very rare that Karan allowed someone to speak and explain
Not only that ,he has deviated surprisingly from ill talking topics about India to positive
Wonderful interview. Very informative and enjoyable. Thank u mr. Thapar and mr Dalrymple.
We are fortunate that we have a Dalrymple to tell us about our great past. THANKYOU WIlliam
I've read many books by him, they're amazing amalgamation of history, cilture & tourism, would love to read it too!!!
Hats off to Karan Thapar for conducting this interesting and enlightening interview. Hats off to William Dalrymple for this wonderful work.
Karan is so disappointed to see the greatness of ancient Hindu India which he is so despised and he cannot reconcile
Not Hindu actually but budhhist. Aryabhatta studied in nalanda which was budhhist monastery..
@@cinefile0075 built by the Hindu (vaishnava) Gupta empire and Hindu Kumargupta
@@Nonamejhsja I am talking about education and knowledge from when he learned. It was Buddhist monastry..
Thanks for this discussion Karan. I have ordered the book immediately :) It is important to know, at least for me, where I come from.
From interest in archeology in Mesopotamia William Dalymple has metamorphosed to a wonderful and in - depth writer of Indian History from its ancient roots to towards.
Jai Hind sir. It is the honour of India as reflectng the history of our Nation through the book " The Golden Road " written by William, he apparently through his book reminds the Indian history in terms of Hinduism, Buddhism and the spread of mathematical value across Asia and Europe. We must thank to such knowledgeable person for making such contribution which widen the eye of not only Indian but all over the world. May God give more strength to explore on many unknown facts in the world.
"Don't get lost in the details!" says Thapar when William talks about his relative/ancestor. Thapar, we are more interested in listening to William's 'ramblings' than your interview.
Also loved how William makes a point against Marxist historians of India (just before the outburst above). That must have bothered Karan Thapar, considering how he is related to the grandmother of all Marxist historians, Romila Thapar.
Also funny to see some comments here cautioning people about "Hindu hypernationalism". Classic example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Funniest, though, is someone saying that a lot of it is "conjecture". If anything, William is being conservative about India's influence. Crazy to see such reactions.
What can we expect from him and his regular audience. I have lost respect for almost all journalists (except maybe Saurabh) who have been consumed by their ideology so much (either left or right) that they can't bear to see the other side of things. You're right though, this interview will trigger some people obviously as it shows a positive and powerful Indian influence for a change. I highly doubt Karan would've even invited anyone like William if he wasn't a white person (telling us about our history) because anyone talking about this is immediately branded a far-from-reality-andh-bhakt on this platform if he/she is brown.
@@lakshaybhardwaj2862You can write fairly long passages and seem to be well educated but you lack common sense. rg
@@kamalverma4641 you see, you seem to be under the impression that you have some superior intellect that gives you the authority to decide who lacks 'common sense' and who doesn't, that itself reflects bad on your common sense score.
@@lakshaybhardwaj2862 Tum yar koi book, article wagera likho, about Hindu khatre mei hai, kyo apni khopdi jala rahe ho.
@kamalverma4641 you can't write long passages and don't seem very educated, and you also lack common sense!😅
I recently started reading this great historian... And honestly I am overwhelmed. Thank you Mr. William Darlymple for everything you are doing.
I am going to buy immediately, thank you Karan for bringing William. I want you to this after 6 months in more detail, as we love to listen to William.
Karan, stop interrupting. The audience can understand all the nuances with all the complexities.
Recommend everyone to read the book… it’s amazing… superbly written and not boring at all ❤❤❤❤
This interview was a tour de force, one of the best I have ever come across!
This is like pouring hot molten lead into Thapar’s and Siddarth Vardarajan’s ears.
hahahaha so true , of course their friend Romila shattered
That was super funny comment .. I can literally visualize the hot molten lea going through Thapar's ears !!!
The above names which you have mentioned are the great haters of indian culture. Because of such type of people British made their roadways in india.
So true.When I saw the topic,I assumed there will be anything but good about India,only because the interviewer is Karan Thapar
The black pepper, speices and good steel from south of India was very popular. Along with Gujarat ports, Kerala ports was key to major chunk of Business. Even now the roman coins are digged out. Large Jewish presence reported 2500 years in South..
Some of those Jewish descendants are now Christians. But the ones who remained Jews left for Israel, US ...
Karan Thapar finally found someone who spoke good of India and Hindus!
Not the Present Hindu
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Who's that? 😂
he kinda low key always does...
@@bhaskarmenon839
The present Hindu is an antidote to the Woke and liberals
Problem with people like you is that you can't view facts as facts - but as opinions.
You're better off on some Godi channel.
Before Dalrymple there was Nehru: The Discovery of India which was the seminal work.
Desperately waiting for this dialogue in this new book, and it is here!
So now that we finally have a stamp of approval of a "gora" scholar, let's hope the world will really recognise India's historical importance.
Although this in no means is a criticism of Mr. Dalrymple. He is an Indian at heart who has written numerous volumes recounting detailed historical accounts about the cruelty of the East India Company.
The world acknowledges india's contribution way more than what we assume. All the 'knowledge' was already lying forgotten by the time western indologists came. But yes, the world is not going to acknowledge obvious nonsense like ancient spacecrafts and nuclear weapons.😂
Mr Wooster aren't you an Englishman too , atleast as far as your name is concerned ?
@@xcel5203 WOW!! No. I'm not. "Bertie" is an inside joke in my family. And I picked the name "Athenaeum" basing it on Aristotle's academy "Lyceum" which was named after the Apollo Lyceus, the site where the Peripatetic school of philosophy was founded by Aristotle in 334 BC. I named it after Athena, the goddess of knowledge, as I'm a student of Physics & Mathematics. I wanted the name of the channel to be something like "Sharda Peeth" but I didn't pick it because I don't think I could be deserving of the name "Sharda Peeth" (which happens to be the first mutt established by Adi Sankara).
So, to answer in short, I'm very much an Indian, although I would agree due to my upbringing, English has been somewhat my "lingua dilectus".
Also, even if I was an englishman how would that make my point any less valuable, which was that somehow the west always accepts things about India when someone from the west attests it, even when Indian scholars have been screaming the same things at the top of their lungs!
I was literally mocking the west's bias!
Excellent book - it gave me a high being an Indian for right reason
What Fascinating Stuff ! 👌👌👌
Thank you Mr. Darlymple ,
for your
Deep Insight ‘ into Ancient India ,and its Glorious Past, and for narrating it with such Honesty , Passion ,and Unbiassed View Point. 🙏
And Mr. Karan Thaper for Navigating the Conversation with equal Diligence !👌👌🙏
Learned a Lot from your Conversation today. 😊
Will certainly Buy this Book soon. 👍
I suggest Karan to send this interview to his own sister Romila Thapar so that she can feel an iota of shame for writing skewed history to show both Bharat and Hindus in poor light.
please read romila thapar first
Have you ever read Any of her work?
Read first and then comment.
@@sumit92artist Her work is as rotten as rotten tomatoes.She is a Congi stooge who was tasked to twist the history to suit agenda of Congress and Marxists.
@sumit92artist the guy is spamming the comments with the same thing over and over again 😅
Thapar, Habib, Sharma...been exposed a while ago...not just by WDarlymple...but many local historians...already.
Wonderful work, it confirms that which I have always suspected! I just pre-ordered the book and subscribed to this channel. Great content!
The Wire must interview Bhaskar’s Kamble on his book, The Imperishable Seed: How Hindu Mathematics Changed the World and why this History was Erased! It’s a great follow up to Dalrymple’ book.
Yesterday I received my copy. ❤
Really informative.. I will surely get the book and read it.. thank you...
Wonderful interview i am buying this book
Great interaction. Sometimes, Karan tends to interrupt at the wrong time, disrupting the flow for no obvious reason
That's his habit; he is arrogant , thinks no end of himself.
It is frustrating to see him trying to control the guest. It seems whenever something is said by the guest which does not match his ideology, he feels frustrated and wants to change the flow of the conversation. I don't know, it is his age or ideology, he seems to behave more like a novice rather than a journalist who has been in the business for decades.
This is what the saffron brigade has been shouting hoarse all along.
This was never in the History text books that children got to read.
Mughal rule and a bit of British raj was all the History that was presented as Indian History.
Good interview, Karan Thapar. I wish it had been longer, without interruptions from your side. Your audience is capable of understanding what William Dalrymple is saying. As someone who is not a historian but is fascinated by the subject, could you kindly include historians and archaeologists who are working in South India, especially in Tamil Nadu, to share their perspectives on recent findings in Keeladi etc., and the need to rewrite the historically North-centric narrative to be more balanced? There is the fact after all that the new digs at Keeladi have pushed the Sangam period further back revealing many new concepts. You may even want to forward this comment to William Dalrymple with the hope that he will turn his attention to this topic and pay greater attention to what went on in the South and maybe write a scholarly tome. Thanks!
This interview is an absolute feast for our ears and brains. Thank you so much Karan sir and William sir 🙏👍
Great interview, great topic, fine author. Thank you very much. 🙏
Karan’s own sister Romila Thapar,a Marxist historian assigned by Congress Govts played a pivotal in putting down India’s and Hindu’s incredible achievements and influence.She completely doctored academia history books glorifying only Mughals and invaders,at the same time erasing Hindu resistance and bravery in face of horrendous attacks on our culture,way of life and temples.History will never forgive the likes of Romila Thapar
Not sister but Aunt. Even Shurpaneka would be considered an angel compared to the witch Romila
Romila Thapar is one of those historians that have had their life's work torn apart and thrown in their face while still alive.
I don't know what books you were raised on, but in our school years, there was no glorification of any Mughals even though India reached the zenith of economic prosperity under Aurangxeb @ 25% of global GDP
@@taitreyarr2715by who?
Beautiful interview all round. Thanks. Good energy on both sides.
Karan shouldn't interrupt. It diverts what the main person wants to say.
MAIN POINT: William was mentioning about Maccaulay's misdemeanors, around the 9th minute. Karan made him side step that. Not fair at all. William was honestly saying somethinh important.
The interview was instructive and entertaining. This book is an important contribution to the social history of India. Thank you very much.
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What fascinating & enriching intvw...again rekindled my love for history !!
I have to buy this book after this interview. William, this was not an interview, it was a performance. Outstanding I’m just thinking how interesting the book would be.
Thank you Dalrymple for telling the true India story. Hope Romila Thapar reads your book and gets wiser even at this age.
True thank you for bringing this to the frontview Mr William Darlymple. This is very enlightening as least 1000 years has been invaded and stolen and massacred golden history is lost. Thank you for throwing so much light on the history. I do recollect in tamil literature there is plentiful mention of romans and trade with rome.
Karan Thapar ji, you are interviewing William Dalrymple.
I have a request for you, please consider it as a request, please send it to William Dalrymple ji, it will be a great favour of yours.
The question is why the Hindi translation of William Dalrymple ji's books is not available.
When will the Hindi translation of William Dalrymple ji's books be available for Hindi readers?
If you send this message to William Dalrymple ji, it will be a great favour of yours.
Especially for the Hindi readers who read books only in Hindi.
Thank you very much.
When William wrote the White Mughals, given his fascination with the Mughals, he was torn to pieces by the Indian right wing and he was not given the due respect. This explains why some publishers thought that translating his book is not worth while. The right wing will change their views once William's Golden Road comes out. This is what the right wing does and its a question you should ask them.
Karan, Tamil merchants were the first to reach the shores of South East Asia. They established their trade network and then they brought South Brahmins and Buddhists along with them on their merchant ships.
thanks karan sir for an amazing interview
Fascinating interview.
Learnt a lot.
An excellent interview - Thank you
Brilliantly harnessing the knowledge and exuberance of Darlymple as only Karan Thapar can
Read the book. Absolute joy. Filled me with a sense of pride. I feel sorry for Mr. Thapar that he has to digest admiration of India by a foreigner in his show. Had it been an Indian he would have straightway termed him a bhakt.
Exactly!! an oxford bred almost Britisher Karan listening to things he should know about his own country!!!!
@@NandaKumar-bx8qcI can’t speak for Karan, bur when we listen to Wiliam speak it is not because we dont know anything on this subject, but rather a curiosity on what has been documented/archived and available for verification. A new knowledge on India becomes hard to come by and is mired with a lot of chest-thumping especially the social media era. It’s good to listen to absolute facts just for a change!
I disagree with your estimate of Mr. Thapar. Dalyrmple provides solid evidence and proof backed by serious scholarship. Thapar understands and appreciates this and so accords him the respect due. Had an Indian done the same, instead of making wild, unfounded and indeed laughable claims (as bhakts tend to do), he'd have listened to him too. You do them both a disservice by such a comment.
Mr,william Darlymple ,you did a great job, congratulation.
Great interview. So much fun
William Dalrymple has his facts on his fingertips and an invigorating style of his own.A must read to fill up our gaps in knowledge about our own history.
Great interview,👌 marred sadly by ad after ad! The price one must pay! Looking forward to reading the book!
INDIA IS LORD BUDHA AND LORD BUDHA IS INDIA
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But budhha is anti brahmin....
Really? I thought Lord Rama was Bharat and Bharat was Lord Rama. If, I remember my history, it was the Buddhists who showed Mohammed bin Qasim how to get the better of Raja Dahir in Sindh, opening the gates for Islam to come flooding in, putting an end to Buddhism in Bharat and compelling it to spread outward. 🇮🇱♥️🇮🇳
Islam was not spread by invaders. Your whimsical thoughts about Islam are caused by your prejudiced mindset. @@Pinku-k4e
India is and was Hindu, so does Prince Siddharth and his father. Hope you won't find it hard to understand the obvious...
Loved the interview. Have ordered the book.
He is an inspiration to many youtubers who are making a career out of India.
करण थापर जी, आप विलियम डेलरिम्पल का इंटरव्यू ले रहे हैं।
आपसे एक निवेदन है, कृपया इसे बिनती समझकर विलियम डेलरिम्पल जी तक पहुंचा दें, आपका बहुत बड़ा उपकार होगा।
प्रश्न यह है कि विलियम डेलरिम्पल जी की पुस्तकों का हिंदी अनुवाद उपलब्ध क्यू नहीं है।
विलियम डेलरिम्पल जी की पुस्तकों का हिंदी अनुवाद हिंदी पाठकों के लिए कब उपलब्ध होगा?
यदि आप यह संदेश विलियम डेलरिम्पल जी तक पहुंचा दें, तो आपका बहुत बड़ा उपकार होगा।
खासकर हिंदी पाठकों वर्ग के लिए जो केवल हिंदी में ही पुस्तकें पढ़ते हैं।
बहुत-बहुत धन्यवाद।
yes
City of Djinns remains a favourite.very good penmanship.looking forward to this one.
Dearest Noble William Dalrymple i would love to know more of the trading between ancient Egypt, Greece and India, nature ( the trade winds ) set sails to east coast of Africa also trading Greeks.
Mr Thappers Questions are at the bulls eye!
And the bull gave a kick to his liberal butt😂
Pleased to hear a big historian's praise for Karan Thapar's diligence
Awaited.
The book provides a well-articulated historical perspective, yet it overlooks one of India’s most significant modern contributions to the world: the global spread of yoga. In the current and previous centuries, yoga has transcended geographical and cultural boundaries, reaching not only the East but virtually every part of the world. So widespread is its influence that yoga today often feels less distinctly Indian. However, I believe that by the end of this century, yoga’s influence will deepen further as it expands to include broader spiritual practices beyond asanas, pranayama, and meditation. This evolution will likely solidify India’s cultural and spiritual impact on a global scale
Very good talk and discuss..❤
a very good interview...seems karan was looking to put politics in the end just to discredit all the efforts made by william...for the people like karan history is juat what he believes in only rest is mythology...
Indians are kept unaware thanks to his useless aunt romila thappar and irfan habib, Marxist historians I studied history in ST. Stephen’s in the 90s the syllabus was bad and teachers were. pathetic teaching same old nonsense.irfan habib , rs sharma lies were brought out by Dr KK Mohammad and Dr.Arif Mohammad khan
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Hope Karan Thapar's cousin, Romila Thapar, had done a tith of research about India compared to what William Dalrymple has done as an outsider. Kudos to you sir!
I always admired VS Naipaul. He said it like it is!
Wonderful interview , lot to learn .I feel the defeat ofBahadur Zafar in 1857 was infact a blessing in disguise.
Your opinion Sirs
DrMani kumar Sharma
Excellent interview.
Interesting and insightful, I wonder why is this not part of school curriculum?
Fascinating interview and a page turner...
Wonderful interview on the wonder that was india
Through the wire, may i gift 3 copies of this book - one for Kamal Hasan (who says India never existed), one for Raul Vinci (who says India is a khichdi of parts), and one for Mamta didi, before she migrates to Bangladesh?
Open your mind a little more than what you did already sir. They are saying 'India' just for the sake of proper reference of location to the viewers, they didn't get into the details like the rulers of different regions of present India at that time, neither did they mention anything about integrity or unity among different rulers or the population of those regions at that time. Political views by politicians are completely subjective and they can mould anything they say into anything they want.
In that case you didn't understand anything you read 😂
Kamal Hasan is right there has never been a country called endia before 1947 ,if don't know that you really need to go back to school...
Correct your spelling brother or god may have mercy on you, we will not@@malianwong
@malianwong please check real history not Macaulay as William said. India is called tianzu by chinese.. infact they divided into 5 indias.. north, south, central, west and east.. if they looked as different they would have mentioned different names right?? 1st understand difference between nation and state.. political large state is extremely difficult to become In ancient times.. please check this link and open ur eyes.. this is not political be apolitical.. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianzhu_(India)
In vishnu puran also mentioned.. the land between Himalayas and indian ocean is called india.. we may not politically one state.. it's impossible bcoz therr is no technology to that.. but we are civilizationally one nation not state...
its a bliss to listen to William. would like to learn more from the book.
India needs its Joseph Needham, and Dalrymple may consider stepping in that role. Indeed, a fitting role for James Prinsep's successor.
தமிழன் என்று சொல்லடா தலை நிமிர்ந்து நில்லடா! ❤
Stories of our past lay hid plainly in sight.
None to hear, none to care, they lay in despair
Till they came from afar, brought them to light.
Asked they:
Did you not know tales of your ancient glory?
No, we said, all we need are stories that are holy.
Hence, my fellow-subcontinentals, blame whoever you want for our sorry state😥, but look at ourselves first.
His first book I read: Nine Lives: In search of sacred in modern India. In 2009. It was amazing.
10.07 if it is true Karan Thapar finds it hard to believe in the greatness of of our past after all it’s the family tradition
Got it today and am looking forward
splendid interview
Karan, please organise an interview of Dr. Roy Casagandra, another very knowledgeable historian and political scientist
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